El concierto de Carl Philipp es de estilo galante y sentimental y este músico hace un exquisito ajuste del tempo y la ornamentación en su interpretación
Carl Philip Emmanuel Bach was probably the most important of the four sons of Bach who became composers. His style is fully personal, and in parallel with Haydn, he contributed to define the classical forms. This oncerto is both full of fantasy in the inspiration and very rigorous in terms of architecturre.
Haydn’s two cello concertos in C major (c.1761 -1765), and D major (1783), have virtually nothing in common with each other, apart from the composer’s name. Ergo, if you find a resemblance to one, there can be no resemblance to the other. You’re right that this - like all CPE’s works - is fascinating, but the third movement sounding like Haydn ? The 3rd movement sounds like ‘Here we go gathering nuts in May’; the plodding, meandering, totally uncharacteristic and un-Haydnesque Moderato opening movement of the D major concerto is Haydn with the electricity cut off. Surely none of this sounds remotely like CPE Bach ? CPE - perhaps the least Italianate composers of the age - sounding like Vivaldi ? I’m curious as to the links you say you hear.
@@elaineblackhurst1509I also don't see much ressemblance with Haydn's cello concerto's. The interaction soloist-orchestra is much more integrated in H. This sounds like a sonata for cello and harpsichord with the latter's part simply transcribed for unison strings.
Just discovered this site (LOFT).. Hogwood excels himself and brings out the very best in these dedicated musicians creating wonderful music. I plan to listen to other LOFT recordings. Bravo.
Meine musikalische Erfahrungen seit den frühen 70ern reichten von Hard- und Psycedelic-Rock, über Jazz und Jazz-Rock bis zu diverse Metalentwicklungen, muß erkennen, das gerade Carl Phillipp Emanuel und auch sein Vater Joh.Seb. Bach schon vor über 2Jhdten diese musikalischen Entwicklungen in ihrer Musik beinhalteten. Einfach mitreißend und grandios.
Piano Weeb Glad you’ve discovered this very interesting and highly individual composer; however, he cannot be classified as Baroque. Most of CPE Bach’s works are written in what is normally termed an ‘empfindsamer Stil’, and it is part of the Classical period normally associated with Mozart and Haydn. As indicated by his dates (1714 - 1788), and his name, he was born into the Baroque world - and some of his music has traces of this - but most of his works follow the forms and structure of the next age: sonata form, symphonies, sonatas, and so forth.
PstScrpt Of all the composers who could be said to have influenced Mozart, CPE is the least important - the hugely influential Versuch, CPE’s ground-breaking manual on the true art of keyboard playing excepted. Forget some of the ‘experts’ and just trust the evidence of your own ears; not a single note of either composer sounds like anything ever written by the other. The two composers never met, and CPE is barely mentioned in Mozart’s letters apart from the odd reference to asking his father to get hold of some fugues for example which was not about an interest in CPE particularly, but was actually part of a much wider interest in older counterpoint techniques which included studying those of JS Bach and Handel, Michael Haydn, and a number of others. CPE Bach entries in the index of any Mozart biography are always very few in number, and the reason why is pretty straightforward.
Great touch and light, not over-romantic, almost can fool one to believe this is a period performance. It does not appear he is using even a transitional bow but hard to tell from the video.
George 1010th Bach, Handel,Vivaldi (and Scarlatti as mentioned in the other comment), are composers of the late or high Baroque who produced many of the greatest works in this style. CPE Bach, whose music contains some occasional traces of the baroque style however, is not a baroque composer. Emanuel Bach is a highly individual composer whose work falls predominantly in the early/mid Classical period; probably the most accurate words used to describe his music are ‘empfindsamer Stil’, and/or Empfindsamkeit’. Neither of these descriptive expressions can meaningfully be applied to the Baroque period or its music, they are quintessentially Classical. Empfindsamkeit, and empfindsamer Stil are related terms meaning in simple terms - sensibility, sentimentality and sensitiveness. The music is characterised by a musical rhetoric and a very dynamic aesthetic of emotional expression - check out Dr Burney’s account of an evening spent with CPE to get a better idea of what these words actually mean in practice! Your comment about CPE speaking to you personally is very perceptive; if you read through his Versuch, you will know that to him, the main aim of the composer was to provide the performer with music to move the emotions of both him/herself and the listener in keyboard music, this aesthetic also applies to his other works. In short, CPE is not of the same age as his father, nor the other great composers mentioned above.
Nasr Chellouf In fact, Emanuel (sic) was more famous than his father Johann Sebastian throughout the 18th and well into the 19th century; if anyone said ‘Bach’, they invariably meant CPE (except perhaps in London or Buckeburg). Today of course, the name without qualification almost always means JS.
Sam Eash You’re right, CPE is very much a one-off. Check out these German words: (i) ‘empfindsamer Stil’, (ii) ‘Empfindsamkeit’. These two mean almost the same thing, and will give you a bit more detail on the ‘oomph’ you mentioned.
You're absolutely right, CPE has a very entertaining and very personal musical language and certainly in this concerto. Of course a magnificent performance also.
Je ne connais pas quelque musique de ce grand compositeur! Il est fils de le génie et pére de la musique classique Johann Sebastian Bach! J'aimais-t-il beaucoup!
The violinist who looks like Geoffrey Rush makes me feel like I’m watching an outtake of an alternate-universe’s Shine where the main character is an under-appreciated violin prodigy
Ran A You’re not alone, though CPE (sic) can be something of an acquired taste due to his strikingly original ‘empfindsamer Stil’ compositions. It is normal to initial Emanuel Bach as CPE (not KPE) as was done in his own time; for example, in the editions of the 1750’s of his famous ‘Essay on the True Art of Playing Keyboard Instruments’ - the ‘Versuch’ - his name, in beautiful gothic script is clearly spelt ‘Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach’. Stick to CPE or we’ll have confusion as there is practically an alphabet of different musical Bach’s; KPE Bach is about as real as PDQ Bach!
CPE Bach és el mestre del drama i l'elegància. En aquesta peça, com en el seu famós concert per a flauta, enceta la música amb un potent altibaix melòdic de gest decidit, i manté el caràcter durant el primer moviment sencer.
If you can identify even the tiniest real link between the North German early-Classical sounds of CPE Bach and the Venetian high-Baroque of Vivaldi then you can do anything; I cannot hear a single thing.
"Historically Correct". ? Any Gobemouche (gôb mōōsh’) fall for this snobbery? BTW: Did they use A = 415 Hz? I note the use of modern bows, not classical bows. Also modern chin rests.. Was the harpsichord equal tempered or well-tempered? Was the traditional three-stringed double-bass used? Did historic Baroque include obnoxious, noisy advertisements between movements?
Don't be rude ! The comments say "historically correct", not exactly authentic. They play in 440 not 415, with modern instruments. But I have heard so many horrible playing (with a great orchester, with the ornements played like in 19th century... ) that this execution seems for me a good one. The instrumentalists are very good, the cellist excellent, doesn't make too much. It doesn't pretend to be an execution with baroque instruments. I think it is authorized to played like this ! If no, why does pianists play Bach on a great piano ? And was Glen Gould a Bach-killer ? We have here a very good concert, historically acceptable. I think this is not an anachronism, and we are pleased to have listened this concerto. That's all. In addition, the persons who doesn't appreciate your comment can be polite... You are authorized to have another opinion, and you do not agree the words "historically correct". "Correct" is not "exact" or authentic"... (But excuse, my english is not native !)
Wie können Strenge und Freude zu solch einer Symbiose verschmolzen werden? CPE Bach ist ein Genius.
A wonderful concerto with a giant orchestra and with a giant celloist as well....Thanks for uploading.
The cello gives me chills
El cello concerto en A minor de Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach es uno de los más bellos que he escuchado en mi vida!.
I used to play the CD of this concerto over and over and over again during my music studies. Every note is imprinted.
What I’d do for that cd
This is a masterpiece. One of the best classical era concertos I've heard.
Emanuel's music is so rich and amazing, literally the most talented son of the great bach
Great! I love the twinkle of the harpsichord underneath the cello and orchestra.
Sounds like the harpsichord is tiptoeing around 😀
@@dystopikk ,
can't hear the harpsichord at all, sorry !
Electrifying, mesmerising, petrifying in the soaring heights the performers carry my emotions. Thank you for your love of music.
😮 whoa I didnt know CPE Bach was this nice. Splendid. Definitely will check out more of his charts.
Herrliche Klänge. Alte Stimmung der Instrumente, authentischer Klang und schöne Akustik . Klasse.Fantastische Komposition .
C.P.E. Bach - Cello Concerto in a minor, Wp 170
1:00 I. Allegro assai
10:38 II. Andante
18:26 III. Allegro assai
You’re welcome, ezels.
Exquisit and excellent! Thank you all!
Just brilliant playing all-round!
It will be a paradox if word could do justice of this magnificent musical interpretation...
Love CPE ... what a creative, compositional genius. And a what a superb orchestra and soloist and of course, conductor. BRAVO!
Indeed! What a rare masterpiece of performance!
What an Articulate, Beautiful and Stylish Sound ..... !!!
I love Bach and his sons. Truly gifted. I wish these days they still made music. But who knows the Bach's might.
Magnifique interprétation. Le violoncelliste tellement brillant !
And the warmth and intensity of his instrument!
🤣
El concierto de Carl Philipp es de estilo galante y sentimental y este músico hace un exquisito ajuste del tempo y la ornamentación en su interpretación
Hogwood, David Adorjan and Bach Collegium Munchen are all knitted together as one amazing player. Exhilarating and touching!
Extraordinario, musica del cielo, todos juntos unidos por su amor y devoción por la musica. Que belleza!!!
Enjoyed this performance. Thanks for posting this.
Wonderful harpsichord! Great to see such a wonderful historical instrument in 98
yes, but can't hear it properly !
Carl Philip Emmanuel Bach was probably the most important of the four sons of Bach who became composers. His style is fully personal, and in parallel with Haydn, he contributed to define the classical forms. This oncerto is both full of fantasy in the inspiration and very rigorous in terms of architecturre.
Didn't he have a total of 11 sons but only four of them became composers?
Jason S 20 sons in fact. Hahahhaa... But four are the composers.
@@adriatorras8077 20 sons but only 11 grew older, the rest die while kids
Adria Torras In fact, JSB had 21 sons and daughters, but only 14 survived to he adult age.
@@rogosobe Absolutely true. But all his sons who survived became musicians, ranging from estimable to genius.
The first movement feels very much Vivaldi, and third movement reminds me strongly of Haydn's cello concertos! What a fascinating piece.
Mm. I think I prefer this to the both of them! Haha
@@captainbeastazoid7084 Me too.
Haydn’s two cello concertos in C major (c.1761 -1765), and D major (1783), have virtually nothing in common with each other, apart from the composer’s name.
Ergo, if you find a resemblance to one, there can be no resemblance to the other.
You’re right that this - like all CPE’s works - is fascinating, but the third movement sounding like Haydn ?
The 3rd movement sounds like ‘Here we go gathering nuts in May’; the plodding, meandering, totally uncharacteristic and un-Haydnesque Moderato opening movement of the D major concerto is Haydn with the electricity cut off.
Surely none of this sounds remotely like CPE Bach ?
CPE - perhaps the least Italianate composers of the age - sounding like Vivaldi ?
I’m curious as to the links you say you hear.
Vivaldi? You seem to be deaf.
@@elaineblackhurst1509I also don't see much ressemblance with Haydn's cello concerto's. The interaction soloist-orchestra is much more integrated in H. This sounds like a sonata for cello and harpsichord with the latter's part simply transcribed for unison strings.
-- Excellent violoncelliste & superbe tempo. Bel & bon Concerto. --
I think you mean cellist mate
@@oldbird4601 a violoncellist is identical and synonym to a cellist. "Cellist" is just an abbreviation.
C.P.E for the win. One of my faves, although always eclipsed by his father the great one
CPE Bach fue famoso y reconocido...Nadie lo eclipsó.
Amazing performance
So beautiful sound love it
Thank you🍃
MAGNIFIQUE MUSIQUE !!! et de surcroît magnifiquement interprétée !
Nothing less than this magnificent concerto could be expected from a son of Unseres Vater JS BACH!
Mozart said "Er ist der Vater; wir sind die Bubn." And he intended Carl Philipp Emanuel, not Johann Sebastian!
Beautiful playing of a lovely work
Just to see this conductor is a treat! He embodies the spirit of this wonderful piece of music. Rare to hear it in the right speed and precision.
I hope more people will listen to this after seeing the new play Bach + Sons and hear some of CPE's music is rather good!
Several parts of this concerto are variations of the flute concerto Wq 166. 1st movement is vigorous, the 2nd. is wonderful!
Louder and softer sections build and fall like surges of the sea. We are bewitched and carried along from beginning to end.
Great to see Lars Ulrik Mortensen on the harpsichord too!! Wonderful performance...
Unreal! Excellent concerto!...
Just discovered this site (LOFT).. Hogwood excels himself and brings out the very best in these dedicated musicians creating wonderful music. I plan to listen to other LOFT recordings. Bravo.
Meine musikalische Erfahrungen seit den frühen 70ern reichten von Hard- und Psycedelic-Rock, über Jazz und Jazz-Rock bis zu diverse Metalentwicklungen, muß erkennen, das gerade Carl Phillipp Emanuel und auch sein Vater Joh.Seb. Bach schon vor über 2Jhdten diese musikalischen Entwicklungen in ihrer Musik beinhalteten. Einfach mitreißend und grandios.
incredible bow technique, so crisp!
This. Was _Awesome._
Good playing by the whole chamber orchestra! Back then, everyone was young.
Marvelous sound. Good video editing.🎥
The cellist is insanely good! Such a pleasing sound and incredible articulation.
En dejlig og flot spillet cellokoncert .....
Who else came here looking for J.S Bach and found another brilliant baroque composer instead
Came here looking for CPE, found CPE
Piano Weeb
Glad you’ve discovered this very interesting and highly individual composer; however, he cannot be classified as Baroque.
Most of CPE Bach’s works are written in what is normally termed an ‘empfindsamer Stil’, and it is part of the Classical period normally associated with Mozart and Haydn.
As indicated by his dates (1714 - 1788), and his name, he was born into the Baroque world - and some of his music has traces of this - but most of his works follow the forms and structure of the next age: sonata form, symphonies, sonatas, and so forth.
Oh thanks that’s news to me never considered the possibility of someone named Bach who wasn’t a baroque composer lol
PstScrpt
Of all the composers who could be said to have influenced Mozart, CPE is the least important - the hugely influential Versuch, CPE’s ground-breaking manual on the true art of keyboard playing excepted.
Forget some of the ‘experts’ and just trust the evidence of your own ears; not a single note of either composer sounds like anything ever written by the other.
The two composers never met, and CPE is barely mentioned in Mozart’s letters apart from the odd reference to asking his father to get hold of some fugues for example which was not about an interest in CPE particularly, but was actually part of a much wider interest in older counterpoint techniques which included studying those of JS Bach and Handel, Michael Haydn, and a number of others.
CPE Bach entries in the index of any Mozart biography are always very few in number, and the reason why is pretty straightforward.
Great touch and light, not over-romantic, almost can fool one to believe this is a period performance. It does not appear he is using even a transitional bow but hard to tell from the video.
magificient!
Köszönöm LOFT music.
bravo ❤️
Magnifico.
Wonderfull !
I adore J.S.Bach and Handel, I love Vivaldi... but CPE is really speaking to me personally; its a bond with him
George 1010th And Scarlatti?
George 1010th
Bach, Handel,Vivaldi (and Scarlatti as mentioned in the other comment), are composers of the late or high Baroque who produced many of the greatest works in this style.
CPE Bach, whose music contains some occasional traces of the baroque style however, is not a baroque composer.
Emanuel Bach is a highly individual composer whose work falls predominantly in the early/mid Classical period; probably the most accurate words used to describe his music are ‘empfindsamer Stil’, and/or Empfindsamkeit’.
Neither of these descriptive expressions can meaningfully be applied to the Baroque period or its music, they are quintessentially Classical.
Empfindsamkeit, and empfindsamer Stil are related terms meaning in simple terms - sensibility, sentimentality and sensitiveness.
The music is characterised by a musical rhetoric and a very dynamic aesthetic of emotional expression - check out Dr Burney’s account of an evening spent with CPE to get a better idea of what these words actually mean in practice!
Your comment about CPE speaking to you personally is very perceptive; if you read through his Versuch, you will know that to him, the main aim of the composer was to provide the performer with music to move the emotions of both him/herself and the listener in keyboard music, this aesthetic also applies to his other works.
In short, CPE is not of the same age as his father, nor the other great composers mentioned above.
@@elaineblackhurst1509 sure does sound very baroque though. I've certainly heard early classical music and this seems so different still.
Perhaps Emanuelle was the Victim of Jean Sebastian. Same time it's not beneficial to have such legend of father.
Nasr Chellouf
In fact, Emanuel (sic) was more famous than his father Johann Sebastian throughout the 18th and well into the 19th century; if anyone said ‘Bach’, they invariably meant CPE (except perhaps in London or Buckeburg).
Today of course, the name without qualification almost always means JS.
CPE just has that oomph that few other composers had
Sam Eash
You’re right, CPE is very much a one-off.
Check out these German words:
(i) ‘empfindsamer Stil’,
(ii) ‘Empfindsamkeit’.
These two mean almost the same thing, and will give you a bit more detail on the ‘oomph’ you mentioned.
You're absolutely right, CPE has a very entertaining and very personal musical language and certainly in this concerto. Of course a magnificent performance also.
Grand bonheur !! Merci
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Je ne connais pas quelque musique de ce grand compositeur! Il est fils de le génie et pére de la musique classique Johann Sebastian Bach! J'aimais-t-il beaucoup!
Amazing! Thank you!
Thank you for your comment! :) We are glad you enjoy it!
muy técnico. humanidad al 100 %
EXCELENTE.
🌈🎶 And 🍀 For sélection music
The violinist who looks like Geoffrey Rush makes me feel like I’m watching an outtake of an alternate-universe’s Shine where the main character is an under-appreciated violin prodigy
great
Great performance... but is it me, or have I heard this as a flute concerto as well?
Bach is certainly an under-appreciated genius.
I wish Mozart had composed cello concertos....
(and wishing for my youthful hair back!)
He composed one that has been lost.
@@iggyreilly2463 Do you have any source for what?
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¡Qué bien componía el hijo de María Barbara!
I agree with previous listener commenting that the first movement has resemblance to Vivaldi....like galloping snow....
laser beam brilliance
i thought i was the last one to love KPE. Happy to find i'm not alone!
Ran A
You’re not alone, though CPE (sic) can be something of an acquired taste due to his strikingly original ‘empfindsamer Stil’ compositions.
It is normal to initial Emanuel Bach as CPE (not KPE) as was done in his own time; for example, in the editions of the 1750’s of his famous ‘Essay on the True Art of Playing Keyboard Instruments’ - the ‘Versuch’ - his name, in beautiful gothic script is clearly spelt ‘Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach’.
Stick to CPE or we’ll have confusion as there is practically an alphabet of different musical Bach’s; KPE Bach is about as real as PDQ Bach!
I peaked on acid to this and saw god.
Marvellous, what a composer ! I'm not a connoisseur but this music sounds very "modern", or is the other way around? Thankyou very much.
The Composer is Emanuelle Bach. His father is the famous legend of Baroque music Jean Sebastian Bach.
@@nasrchellouf5725 Thankyou for your answer. I find CP.E. Bach's music fascinating, and love specially this concerto and also the performance.
Nasr Chellouf Recte: Emanuel. (Emanuelle is the feminine form!).
@@elaineblackhurst1509 Thanks for the correction
Not so modern to me with that basso continuo
CPE Bach és el mestre del drama i l'elegància. En aquesta peça, com en el seu famós concert per a flauta, enceta la música amb un potent altibaix melòdic de gest decidit, i manté el caràcter durant el primer moviment sencer.
Fabulous performance all round. Any idea who the brilliant cellist and orchestra are????
David Adorján - cello and the Bach Collegium under the direction of Christopher Hogwood.
Cathie Vermote Thank you Catherine. No surprise about Hogwood! Stupendous!
2:10 for me when i practice 😅
9:00
02 Bach 3 BP.smp
DAY 03.1
Неизвестно
The concert master resembles a lot of Geoffrey Rush.
1:04
The video starts at 1:07
Ey nu a guy whu plade the fidull culld Billy Bach. Greet blork. He cud git a crakin rattle un.
Harry Potter is you?
Cringe
does the cellist play too slow compared to the orchestra?
le claveciniste est l'excellent Lars Ulrik Mortensen.
SOMPTUEUX !
the Oboe version is much better!
"historically correct performance" yall haven't caught up yet now, have you ?
A new minimalism. Systematic avoidance of harmonic polyphony and counterpoint. Lots of unison lines.
The chromosomes of Jean Sebastian has given it fruits. Emmanuelle is Beethoven with less anger and aggressively
Out did his father a little.
Inspired by Vivaldi ‼️‼️‼️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
If you can identify even the tiniest real link between the North German early-Classical sounds of CPE Bach and the Venetian high-Baroque of Vivaldi then you can do anything; I cannot hear a single thing.
"Historically Correct". ? Any Gobemouche (gôb mōōsh’) fall for this snobbery?
BTW: Did they use A = 415 Hz?
I note the use of modern bows, not classical bows. Also modern chin rests..
Was the harpsichord equal tempered or well-tempered?
Was the traditional three-stringed double-bass used?
Did historic Baroque include obnoxious, noisy advertisements between movements?
Shut the fuck up loser
Ok boomer
Don't be rude ! The comments say "historically correct", not exactly authentic. They play in 440 not 415, with modern instruments. But I have heard so many horrible playing (with a great orchester, with the ornements played like in 19th century... ) that this execution seems for me a good one. The instrumentalists are very good, the cellist excellent, doesn't make too much. It doesn't pretend to be an execution with baroque instruments. I think it is authorized to played like this ! If no, why does pianists play Bach on a great piano ? And was Glen Gould a Bach-killer ? We have here a very good concert, historically acceptable. I think this is not an anachronism, and we are pleased to have listened this concerto. That's all.
In addition, the persons who doesn't appreciate your comment can be polite... You are authorized to have another opinion, and you do not agree the words "historically correct". "Correct" is not "exact" or authentic"... (But excuse, my english is not native !)
interesting pieces, but they are all missing something.
Keiner hört sich sowas an 😒
134k leute sagen was anderes
@@gabriellthegamer7614 ja das ist einfach traurig 🤦