See Inside NYC's New Subway Cars That Will Replace 5 DECADES Old Trains | NBC New York
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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2023
- New NYC subway cars will replace the ones that have been running for nearly 50 years. But you’re going to have to wait until late 2023. NBC New York’s Myles Miller reports.
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I'm glad to see that the New York subway is now getting where the state of the art was 11 years ago.
😂😂
New yoirk is ghetto
Better late than never is the saying.
@@TheRailLeaguer true true
All about cost. State of the art costs money, and people are allergic to taxes.
If the city could keep the trains clean and safe for the riders’ pleasant environment, doesn’t matter they’re old/new model.
People exist
It’s not always the city’s fault, it’s the riders who don’t take care of their trains either. People are destructive.
That’s pretty much impossible unless people change themselves
@@JustANervousWreck NY ppl dont give a shit honestly
@@kenfern2259some do give a shit… in a different way lol
At first I was expecting the exterior design of the new trains to look significantly different or modernized (like how Montreal's newer cars look for example), but I think I actually like how they've retained the boxy silver design of the older cars and stuck to implementing new features. Love the design of the next stop displays.
Yeah, they kept the exterior the same but interiors is more modern
Montreal's trains don't look any more modern they're just a different shape in terms of insides they look similar
I like it I'm so tired of looking at old falling apart trains.
agreed, oBdurate. the two replies above me are just nonsense.
@@cjspyker Montreal’s trains are way sleeker looking and cleaner than your shitdump r211t’s
It would of been nice if they had middle center holding bar for people who are standing. People tend to stand over people who are sitting to hold on to something to not fall.
It All Depends Of The Train Is On A Straigt Line...
We Have These Cars In Toronto Too...
But I Always Love Takin My A-Train To Boxin...
Yes this would be nice. But then people in wheelchairs couldn’t move about in the train. There are ADA laws that prevent this.
Seriously? These things will be destroyed within a month not to mention the homeless taking dumps in the corner while breakdancers and mariachi bands shake you down for money.
But you aint wrong about a mid bar. In a normal functioning World and city i would nominate you as my transportation secretary
@@thegadflygang5381 You Not Even From New York....
@@Trainsallday wheel chairs don’t have to go everywhere. One carriage for them is good enough.
As a native New Yorker, my only complaints & caution is what if a homeless person that has severely bad body odor sleeps in one cart, no doubly the smell will travel through the whole train. Also sometimes homeless pee, smoke, & whatever else, between train carts, what happens when they don’t have that option, probably just pee or smoke in the open (yes it happens). Everything else looks nice, but those are my only curiosities for now.
Same.
100% this.
Oh don’t worry the homeless people are patiently waiting for their new trains to arrive each new train will be funky and dirty by next month depends ☠️
Then we throw them out
Simple. Change carriages?? Gangways are a very old design, our trains in Australia have had them for decades now, whenever someone with bad odour boards, you can just simply walk to the next carriage without having to go outside 😊
The Pullman-Standard built R46s that will be replaced by the 211s have been running on the system since 1975, when Gerald Ford was president, Hugh Carey was Governor and Abe Beame was mayor. BTW, that is actually a mid-1980s R62A 6 train you just showed and B division trains don't fit on the IRT.
And they are still better than the newer shit.
agreed F40PH-2CAT!
@@F40PH-2CAT As a Person who adores old subway cars. I agreed.
Agreed 💯❤️🤍💙🌆🗽
Yeah, I noticed that too!
They talk about R46 and show 3-door IRT train LMFAO
I’m very excited about this, in a rural Nebraska town of 1,800 people. A bus doesn’t even stop near by. There is a abandoned train station and no tracks anymore.
😂😂😂😂
What did you expect for a red state
@@richardmesser1091 come on now, Nebraska is more interesting than that, and New York would be a red state too, if its cities weren't so large.
The city of Omaha is solidly blue, and luckily their congressional district is able to vote that way in the Electoral college, it doesn't just have to let its vote be superseded by the state at large like most states. Nebraska is the only U.S. state with a unicameral legislature, which ostensibly makes it easier for populist/progressive politics to succeed.
Omaha recently finished a BRT line and is on its way to build a streetcar as well.
It's one of the few cities I know of where you can still buy a decent tasting beer out at the bar for just $5. It's definitely a better town than you might otherwise expect
-A former West Coast elitist who grew up
@@onesob13 "If" the majority of Americans live in cities. New York and it's burbs represent the majority of Americans not it's rural parts.
@@derred723 the Northeast megalopolis (not just the NYC metro) represents about 22% or 1/5 of the population of the U.S. If we include ALL urbanized areas of the U.S., then that's where we see that city-dwellers represent the majority of Americans. But 'all urbanized areas' includes places like Omaha, Nebraska and other mid-sized Midwestern cities, which are not nor should be regarded automatically as bad places just because of their state-level politics
They should have kept the cabins separate. I can't count the amount of times I had to move trains due to crazy people being on the same cabin as me. Not to mention, how do you combat the odor that will arise from homeless people and folks that have unique hygiene habits (for lack of a better term).
Yep
It’s easy KNOCK THEM OUT
The police can be summoned to remove them
The R211A has the old style separations.
@@qjtvaddict 1. these are still human beings, that isn't right. 2. what would you do about the smell.
Please don't do away with the "single" seats to the side. After a long day of work or something, you just want to sit there and close your eyes and listen to your music. It's a good feeling.
Facts!
Not in this dangerous subway system would you be closing your eyes after your hard day’s work.
@@hemishgervis695 😆
The number one rule of the nyc subway NEVER FALL ASLEEP
Those single seats in the corner always get snatched up by some homeless person who turns it into their own personal little studio apartment.
The cars with the open gangway are the R211T. The separate cars are the R211A.
R211A will debut in the spring, 211Ts in the fall
Not a fan of the open passways through each car. Having them closed was a way for us New Yorkers to leave a smelly car, car fillies with homeless, a loud car, and a car with potential danger. Having them all with open pass-ways just seems counterproductive idk.
Odd enough, gangways also have the benefit for people who don't feel comfortable around a creepy person it allows them to get away.
You need them in case of an emergency ..
Oh no, the homeless...you sound privileged.
@@Clay3613 wow this comment made absolutely no sense!!
NBC: It will replace the R46
Also NBC: Shows R62
They had showed the R62AS 6 trains. The R262/AS is gonna definitely replace all the R62AS R62S on the 1 3 6 S lines for CBTCS for the A devisin iRT lines.
So I’m not the only person who noticed that.
@@leecornwell5632 We're not talking about the Friggin r62s, we're talking about the r46 trains
Yeah, they should've shown an A train or an N or Q train arriving. The R46s are running on the Broadway & 8th Ave Lines lately.
How you guys know all the models
The concept is OLD. In the 1920's the BMT had "Triplex Cars"; 3 cars semi-permanently coupled together with a "walk-through" between the middle car and the 2 end cars. I believe they were built by Pressed Steel Car Company. I'm not sure why that design never went forward (until today).
The BMT commissioned experimental lighter weight aluminum cars as a way to be light enough to operate on the elevated viaducts while also complying with new regulations effectively outlawing wooden cars. These regulations were set by mayor Hylan who was trying to kill the BMT and IRT, among other ways by setting impossible hurdles which had little to do with safety. Once he got his wish and the city took over everything, there was no more purpose to these designs. So they were cancelled.
1:50 -- You guys are talking about an R46... and then show a picture of an R62.
The media's research is lazy.
that's crazy I went to queens on tuesday and got on one of these a couple times and did not care to notice anything about it 😂literally was like "oh that screen showing the stops are new, cool" and moved on with my day. 1.4 bil for the same old train we had yesterday🤣
Good to see that the MTA has made progress. Hopefully, there will be further changes such as the return of the old trolley buses and the trolley lines. And this time let's have double deckers in order to give passengers more room.
We need trolleys, especially in the Bronx where the constant exposure to idling cars and particle pollution is actually killing us. It's shocking how extensive the trolley system was in BX some 70 years ago compared to now. All to be sold out to the auto industry. The streetscape has just devolved ever since.
@@judevientos4039
Excellent post. 100% spot on. We added a tram system (modernized trolley ~ European style) here in the Twin Cities a few years ago. The critics said it would be a waste of money and disruptive to our local transportation system. Much to their surprise, the system promoted local transport, relieved traffic congestion, stimulated business & shopping, and promoted transportation to amusements such as sporting events and theater. In only a few years the cost for the system was recaptured thus making it a worthwhile investment. That is what will happen if a trolley/tram system is put in place there in the Bronx and throughout all of NYC.
@@merccadoosis8847 Trolleys are never coming back to NYC. And what you are describing in the Twin Cities is a light rail system that also won't be coming to NYC anytime soon. Get a grip.
Too many low bridges for double decker buses.
@@merccadoosis8847 NYC is better off expanding the subway
Ok how will I know which cars to avoid now?
Literally
You still can avoid some cars. The Open Gangway trains, which may mainly be assigned to the E, F, and R routes, will allow for one to avoid them easier.
at 10 million a piece, the showtime guys are gonna have a field day with this layout. no more switching cars to avoid to avoid their dance routines :(
I hate those guys. Nothing more annoying (but more New York) than getting hassled by a dirty bum pretending to be talented on the way home from work
And the mentally ill people bringing garbage on the train with them and smelling like death. Can't avoid those people either
That’s what I was thinking but they used to walk between cars anyways
@@Number1Camper This is the most obvious argument against those who suddenly think you won’t be able to get away anymore. They were always able to walk through the cars freely.
The only thing now is you can hear the music from the next cart
Right. The doors were great separate between you and crazy people or smelly cars.
The first subway train to have open gangway was the first 3 D types of the BMT in 1925 numbered 6000 to 6002. The rest of the fleet came in 1927 and 1928 putting an end to wooden el trains to Chambers Street station from the Broadway Jamaica line that August by freeing the BMT Standards to take their place.
I wonder why were there never 10000 train cars in the entire MTA. Same thing for the city buses and railroad commuter trains. Do you know?
Looks like most of the public trains in many European cities. Finally 👏👏
Lol no. Zero design put into those boring cold stainless steel boxes. Take a look at Siemens Inspiro for example. That's a proper modern train, yet it's already over 10 years old. The same goes for Alstom Metropolis in Budapest etc. Now compare these to your "new" trains.
Lol no it doesn’t you’ve clearly never been to Europe
Exactly this shi is a waste of our money. I'm not paying $3 for this BS
We all know how much white Americans yearns to be like Europe, and how much Europe turns its nose up to them.
@@tomv3361 why the hell should I care about what the train looks like? I get on, it gets me to work on time, and the train doesn't kill me along the way is all I care about. And if you weren't such a soy boy euroturd who thinks money grows on trees than you would think the same as well
1:55 That's an R62A. Not an R46.
I remember riding the R46 when i first visited NY, im so glad they are replacing it, one of the hottest trains, crowded and tight, musty. Then I was on one of the newer trains, the one that has a stop display showing the next stop and the next few stops, very nice and spacious even with many on the car
There is 8 million people here if more are on trains doesn't that mean overcrowding u will never have enough trains 4 8 million people. Do u know the MTA history.
The R46 is a great train. It was so dramatically nicer than its predecessors when it was introduced in 1975. Yes, it is old now. But essentially, it was designed to be quiet, smooth trains and the ones that are well maintained are still decent and quiet trains.
LMFAOOO the way you said that yeah that was your first time in NYC ☠️
These look great. I hope LA either modernizes or replaces their metro trains at some point. It's almost comical how hard it is to hear the announcements or to know what direction a train is headed.
Agree! I was on the gold line the other day after not being on it for awhile and it was brutal. Although, If they were going to focus on one train definitely should be the red/purple line cause that one is a mess.
New York city deserves much more 😍❤️ hope the modernize the stations too 👏🏼
Leave it to the general media to show an significantly younger R62A when referring to an R46 at 1:55 . This is one of the many reasons why general knowledge in railroad operations and roing stock should be strongly encouraged in mass American culture, instead of the latest car or tiktok trend.
Sloppy reporting and that's a big mistake.
About time! Can’t wait to see them in service 😌
Not me- why you ask? Because all of the homeless will help themselves to lay down on the seats as they always have, AND, their offensive/UNBEARABLE stench will carry through to at least both adjacent train cars...don't be so anxious for these new cars...at least now, you can simply move to the next car that doesn't smell so bad.
Agreed, P E. The open gangway cars on the R211T is a bust (meaning a flop).
I’m not fond of the open concept. Now everyone in the train is susceptible to danger in another car or fouls smells.
same here!
Oh yes I’m so excited for this. Now I can get to work late in style!
Security Cameras, Excellent!
Yea so they can watch the crime happen…ask Septa about it
Big Brother is watching
If they work.
Trains with open gangway? People in NYC won't have the option to switch cars when a person with poor hygiene decides to sleep in the car. Smh. Everyone in NYC knows what it means an empty car at 2 am
agreed. these people dont even have brains
Yay I'm so Happy, The R211 Dose look nice on the (F) but can't wait too see them on Other Lines 😀
That’s awesome! Congratulations New York!
The train cars look fantastic. As another commenter said - I was expecting modernism. Good job on the designers.
And this type of train always end up smelling like public restrooms, so excited for them. smh
“And Security Cameras Everywhere” 😂
I was just watching New York trains from back in the 80's and this video shows up. lol
This is so dangerous if you need to escape from a drunkard or homeless person Wanting to attack you. Good job MTA
You don't know what your are talking about.
You were always able to move from door to door… it’s easier to escape now because you wouldn’t struggle opening the door lmao, and you’ll run to the safety of others
@@trainluvr Not many people here do.
I have never been attacked by a homeless person. Violence and homelessness are not synonymous
Personally in opinion, I’m not a fan of the seating format in those new cars(I.E. the R46 & R68) where you sit and look at the window closely. However, everything else is more modernized such as the gangways and security cameras. I am looking forward to ride these soon.
About time damn!!
The train pictured here at 1:55 is not an R46, that's an R62A on the Lexington Avenue Local 6 Line so I think there must have been a footage issue there. The R62A has been in operation on the Broadway/7th Avenue Local 1 Line, Lexington Avenue Local 6 Line and 42nd Street Shuttle for 37 years. They were cascaded from the Flushing Line to the Lexington Avenue Line when the R188s were rolled in onto the Flushing Line afterwards.
I rode walk through trains in Hong Kong when I was a child... That was over 30 years ago 🤦♀️, we are just starting to have them here in NYC???
NYC is not Hong Kong buddy 😂😂
And NYC is neither Japan, Korea, or even Germany or United Kingdom
1:09 I would rephrase that comment about going from end to end without opening the doors. You do have to realize that there is a middle cab where the middle conductor is located in his own compartment. So you can only move half way through the entire car set...
i love the new design and easy access between each car. i just wish there was a way to go to each borough without having to go through manhattan and make going from bronx to queens and brooklyn quicker and easier
The only cons with these R211s are the fewer seats & smaller windows. Everything else is actually pretty good. I think they get put on the B & D trains since the IND 8th Ave line will get CBTC soon, & those R68s & R68As aren't CBTC compatible.
The base order cars are for the 8th Avenue Line with the 75 SIR cars obviously going there. Everything beyond that is speculation.
Honestly in my view, here’s what makes logical sense:
-Base order cars (440 regular + 20 Open Gangway cars) would be assigned to the A and Rockaway Park Shuttle routes replacing all the R46 cars on that route and the C route (pushing the 130 R179s to the C route).
-Option Order 1: 130 of 640 cars go to the C route to push out 92 R179s that are in 4-car sets out to the J/Z, L, and M. This will give a needed fleet expansion to those lines). C route is now 50% R179 and 50% R211. The rest of the cars (510) will go to the E, F, and R routes out of Jamaica Yard. This pushed out 405 R160s out to the D route in Concourse Yard, which allows for all the R68/As to be in Coney Island Yard for the B, N/W, and Q service to replace about half of the R46 fleet there.
-Option order 2: 405 of 437 cars go to Jamaica Yard for E, F, and R service. This pushes out about 320 R160 cars out of that yard to Coney Island Yard for B train service, reassigning the R68/A cars over to the N/W and Q service and replacing the rest of the R46 cars. Also the G train is lengthened using about 190 of the remaining 565 R160 cars, and the R continuing to being 100% R160s using the 375 R160s over there, with the occasional use of the R160 here and there.
So they finally got the trains every other system has. I rode this train in Medellín Colombia 10 years ago
These look great....and I am appreciative of the safety cameras... My concern is that trains get dirty so quickly....I hope there won't be too many people intentionally ruining and defacing these cars.
Those cameras are not there for safety. They are there to watch you
@@maingreazy21 I have nothing to hide..
@@davidrice6724 that may be so. But do u want to live in a surveillance state. Without any privacy. Cant go anywhere without them knowing
@@maingreazy21 if you have nothing to hide then why bother with the authorities watching you while you commute
@@JitzyJT obliviously u dont get it. Or maybe u like being tracked. A camera cant save u if someone gonna rob or kill you.
They been talking about these trains for years now, I still havent seen them!
Give it time before people are peeing and sleeping on it.
So true
agreed
I also agree in the comments below... NYC should revive its once extensive streetcar system with modern low-floor induction powered trains that don't need ugly overhead wires to operate... Buses and even cars could also use this street induction power system too... Something to ponder, NYC!
Would be nice if they installed sensors to detect humans on tracks to allow oncoming subway trains to stop with distance to save human lives.
One can infer from the video that these new trains will operate more safely.
I imagine such a sensor would cause a lot of trouble, and create a lot of delays for stupid things setting it off (a rat walking across the sensor for example).
@@Raining345 Exactly, plus the train usually can’t stop in time anyway. Also, we have train operators who have eyes and can stop the train, so it’s not necessary unless we were moving to automated trains (which we should be, but we’re not)
Well let's push you onto the tracks and hopefully somebody will take a video. If you had done your homework you would have learned that the MTA is looking into barriers to install on platforms.
@@SicilianStealth Relax. It's not that serious.
We have had this in Toronto Ontario for 10 years or so and you guys are getting these trains now
Can’t wait can’t wait. Def gonna be really fun to not escape a certain car when shit going down. Love that.
It’s great that the MTA is getting some open gangway trains. Will definitely help with expanding capacity and improving safety. Not to mention the ability to walk from one car to the next in a safe manner, thus allowing you to get to your desired door quicker. Honestly a little disappointed these didn’t come earlier, but better late than never. Now let’s get these train cars rolling soon. Literally everyone is looking forward to (and impatiently waiting for) the Open Gangway trains coming to NYC.
How will the “gangway design” inhibit panhandling and the showtime guys?
@@AeolianSkinner Why does that matter?
I prefer for rider antics to be contained to one car. Fights after school dismissal, drunken confrontations after sporting events, bad odors, smoke, etc will impact way more passengers
@@yesimemoin0935 Don’t worry. All of what you mention won’t be made worse with Open Gangway train cars, though you can get away from them easier.
Plus other cities get to have these train cars, especially in Toronto, where they have similar problems. So why can’t NYC?
Huge mistake in NYC, given the way people behave here. No way to escape the insanity of one car by going to another. We'll have people racing motorcycles down the whole length of the train now. And of course filled with smoke and loud music and screaming. BAD MOVE!
This is about a decade overdue! About time these are finally here
the UK had most of this 30 years ago
@@richardmesser1091 Oh yeah with LED lights and real time infographics and sensors, huh
Very nice!
I’ll bet you thousand dollars that none of those people in that press conference actually ride any of those subways ever
That’s not really true, especially since the R211 cars (regular and Open Gangway) do address rider concerns. It’s also worth nothing that the contract has been amended a few times to address those concerns too.
correct, Mark Dowling.
Hopefully they're planning on installing more seats at some point...
Unless they go for the flippy seats. more seats = less capacity
@@li_tsz_fung ok you stand 4 2 hrs and let's see if you Care about capacity I can see the fights already this is typically MTA waste
Nope, theyeven want people to drop their backpacks on the floor to pack more people.
@@kirkdogg007 How often are you on a train for an hour, let alone, 2 hours?... Unless you're on the A train from Rockaway to Inwood, your average commuter is journeying for 10-30 minutes [barring whatever BS you may encounter] daily
Seriously.... Where do you suggest people go in & out of the train with more seats? ....
I don’t want to be rude, but the ”articulated bus technique” is something that European metro trains has had for almost 30 years, and the interior looks like a mix between the CX and the renovated C20 cars in Stockholm. They have been in traffic since 1975 and 1997. The exterior looks nice, but the US really is behind when it comes to public transport.
1:10 me who grew up with that stuff already because our first subway train with articulation is over 22 years old already. But nice
“The new cars replace the R46”
>Shows R62A
It doesn't matter if homeless people and train crimes keep going on!
So you want old shitty cars and homeless people? Gotcha
@@mattkennedy6115 that's not what I said dumb ass!
Huh? It doesn't matter if 'homeless people keep going on?'
We need safety barriers for the train stations like in Asia
This train is from Japanese heavy industrial company, Kawasaki.
They are also making high tech bullet train, but this train is designed for NY.
the Japanese: hold my beer
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now the piss can roll down to all the other cars! Also there’s no possible refuge, if you remember the dude that shot up the train couldn’t get to the other car cause they were holding the door closed.
exactly. so ridiculous.
1:54 Shows us exactly how much the media truly doesn't care about the subway like that. That's an R62A on the (6). Try the (A) next time. 😐
damn this makes the Toronto, Canada trains look old even though we have had the end to end for years the only cool thing the NYC has we don't is the electronic map display which is super helpful for live updates
I am just glad they will not be able to climb the middle part of thr traina and that there are camera on the train. As simple as it looks, new trains are definitely needed as well as some stations that need serious fixing like 2nd ave train station towards Manhatten on the F line.
Welcome to the 2000's New York City!! Trains with with open gangways is an old design feature, here in Australia we've had open gangways on trains for decades. Better late than never I guess! It's good you don't have to go outside to change carriages
They calling that old stuff innovative? Y’a gotta be kidding me
Who cares about Australia. This is about NYC.
$1.4B for 535 subway cars? That is $2.6M each. Seems high, but is this why they want to have tolls entering Manhattan and raise fares?
Federal Grants will help too I heard on the news.
That Does Seems A Bit High... But Who's Gonna Challenge The MTA...
In Toronto It's The TTC We Have These Cars Too But They Sure Hell Didn't Cost A Billion To Make That's A Flat Out...
A new bus cost around $500,000. This is a whole TRAIN. If it were cheap we’d all have our own train going down the Lexington Avenue line.
It would cost even more to constantly maintain the R44s and R46s.
The Boeing 737, the most popular airliner, cost 103.4 million dollars per jet and can only carry around 200 people. Vs the R211 which cost 2.6M per 10 car train that has a max capacity of around and I mean maximum capacity of about 1,500 people.
I can’t remember what train I rode on in 2017 when I visited. It was very interesting.
They are pretty clean, beautiful, and nice. Like them.
Until you have 2 stand 4 2 hrs
Yeah they’ll be clean for like a minute lmao
These cars look amazing but not many seats in them
the seats are for homeless.....the standing space for commuters
They've been testing these trains forever. How much more testing do they need? Anybody taking bets on which will go into service first; the R211 or Amtrak's Aviella Liberty?
This is the r211T not the r211. This train has only been on MTA property for 3 months.
@@banksrail no they we’re talking about both…
@@Trainsallday Who was talking about both? This video has nothing to do with the r211. Lol the news just got the title incorrect.
@@banksrail man, your comprehension is lacking
@@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164 Not quite. The commenter is talking about implying that the train in the video is the r211, saying they’ve been testing it “forever.” I’m just explaining to them that it’s not. Simply. Lol I don’t know why you’re getting butthurt.
At least the G train will always be the OG train. It is important that a cross Brooklyn-Queens train look like a forever trolley confused for a subway. ❤️
The brand new R211s! been looking forward to this for a while now. It's pretty much a modern reincarnation of the R44s before they went through GOH. The R46s ran their course though not as smooth as the R32s did but it's time for them to be put to rest.
This means nothing if the trains still don’t run on the weekends 😅
"Almost over." Nah, the production units won't be delivered until 2024-25, so you got a couple years before even retiring a single R46 set.
Yeah but many production R211A are already built, probably around like 100+ built already, so those might replace some r46
thanks for adding nothing to That Transit Guy's comment 🙄
@@robroy6374 thanks for adding criticism ignorant fool 🙄
what an idiot 🙄@@jaydenphilbertmunipals9089
Wait for the fare hike. 😆
Cool I think I'll have to go to the city more often
Nah. This gonna lead to stink trains. But not all the new subways are gonna be open gangway. I was reading it’s only gonna be 10 sets. The rest are individual cars
i think open gangway train cars sucks. individual, separate cars are the best -- what a real train are supposed to look like.
The new one doesn’t look that different from the old ones. I wish these so called train officials can travel to Europe and Asia and see what is a normal operating train 🚆before designing and inventing their so called new trains
They look like the "new technology" trains from the early 2000s. They're based on that. They aren't really "new" in that respect. They're more a refinement on that blueprint.
the limitations of the ancient subway system. Would require a full teardown and rebuild to allow the modern trains to run plus all the right of ways already in existence need to be renegotiated, this is a compromise
Boston here. Really envious. Our new trains are already breaking and they haven't even been delivered yet.
also Boston, in Green Line we got 3 trains still in service that all connect and they can't pick one to go with. First there's the 70-80s train which is higher off the ground and traditional seating, then there's like the 2010 train which is lower and has more open space and handicap and side seating along the walls vs the traditional rows of seats, and then there's the 2022s train which is pretty much the 2010s train but newer/ cleaner with LED displays and cameras. Now for any train I like the NYC style of bench seats along the sides which Orange and Red line use
RIGHT HERE I CANT WAIT TO GO & RIDE THESE BRAND NEW 2023 - 2024 N.Y.C. R211 SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇🚇🚇 CARS ON THE A & F & D SUBWAY TRAIN STATION LINES.
kinda dangerous if someone gets in and shoots in a straight line down
Exactly what I thought!
agreed!
Congrats on your new trains, people.
Homeless people new homes!! NYC is so stupid!!
@@craigwiggins8287 if you don’t like public transportation that’s your problem. You want them to stay homeless? Some fake Christian you are.
Thanks
Finally those walk-thru open gangway designs have come to NYC
I would like to see platform doors everywhere like the airtrain has
Noooooo…..😢
It’s not a proper NYC subway if I can understand the announcements 😅
Really nice I love my NYC but I hope people don’t Destroy.
They’re beautiful.
I'd like to see the MTA inject tunnels with antennas so we can get a cell service while underground. The solution is not difficult. An acceds point planted every quarter mile which is directly connected to an above ground antenna. Baffles me why this has not been done yet.
应该是没用上华为的5G通讯设备吧，所以，地下没信号。
I like the older trains where they have seats where they have the two seats together where u can look out the window instead of these trains where it's just one long bench I don't see why they can't just make those cars but with the new technology
It’s for added standing capacity. But I agree, those are nicer.
For people who need to walk with assistance, these seats are definitely better. I used a walker until last year.
@@thesubwaynut I agree I just wish they made both
That's the 75 footers, the R46 and R68. They don't handle crowds so well since they have fewer doors and longer spaces between the doors. But, yes, these are nice when the trains aren't crowded.
Luckily the G train won't be changing for several more decades, so at least we've got that
We're gonna need a window to breath sometimes. 💎⚡️👑🎀
Found them all.
im glad to see mta catching up
Let's see how long they can keep that look pristine
I give it a month
It’s nice to finally have modern trains. The features you see here have been a mainstay on various rapid transit systems in Asia and Europe for decades.
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It’s NYC, the biggest subways system in the world I believe, it’s not exactly easy. A lot do Americans cities that don’t even use subways much have nicer trains
In London UK, we have trains with Open-Gangways operating on the London Underground District, Hammersmith & City, Circle and Metropolitan Lines plus the trains on the London Overground and Elizabeth Line have an Open-Gangway as well. The trains on Thameslink and Great Northern route from Moorgate to Welwyn Garden City, Hertford North and Stevenage have Open-Gangways on them as well.
"modern?" maybe for 1998
who gives a F about Europe and Asian countries...Its NYC...Not Europe or Asia....This is one reason why NYC has lost its character...Because of millenial snwflakes likes you that want NYC to copy other areas around the world making cities look bland. Then again your generation has no taste so i am not surprised. Plus I already see problems with these new trains. For example, you wont be able to avoid the crazy people and the odor from homeless people by walking between cars. Now that these are OPEN CAR WALK THROUGHS, the smell and craziness will spread throughout the entire train
MTA needs to clean the subways and get rid of the criminals before these trains hit the scene.
Asia is way ahead of the US. Nothing is “modern” from these trains when compared with Seoul, Tokyo, Singapore, Bangkok and Hong Kong.
Now they need the platform screen doors to make sure people are even more safe.