Thank you Paul. I started getting stronger and stronger with my grip because it feels more powerful. After a few months everything was going left, and my driver became unmanageable. I realized that a strong grip requires so many other faults to square the face that it makes the swing so inconsistent. It forces you to tuck and tighten everything, and promotes a too much of an inside out swing. I spent a few range sessions going back to a neutral grip with loose arms and wrists, and it’s put me right back to playing consistent, straight golf again. My body also hurts a lot less and no golfers elbow. My confidence has returned, and it’s made the game fun again. Thanks.
Your teachings have stopped me from losing 10-12 balls per round off the tee. I was always a long hitter for my age (52), averaging 265-280 yards, but would push the ball and sometimes slice right and lose 8-10 balls per round and 8-10 strokes per round off the Tee Box with the driver.... Your method has put me right down the pipe and i'm killing it 270-290 yards.. Everyone I golf with says it looks like i'm barely swinging and they cannot believe how far I hit the ball.. Thanks a bunch !!!! Ive tried to tell all my buddies who struggle with slicing to watch your videos...
After laying off golf all winter, started playing the last couple weeks. Sure enough, I've been hooking the ball. Was thinking after playing last Wed I got to change something and you come along with your video. Spot on as usual and the light bulb when on. Everything in it I was doing to try and get it straight. Been following you for years. Definitely one of the best and I appreciate all you do for us weekend golfers. I know I'll change the grip today and I'll get back to hitting the ball straight. Thank you!
Thank you, Paul!! I did this, and yes, it felt awful.... I slowed down the swing and let it release, and BOOOM ! I never hit it so far, and straight! I mean laser straight! U DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Paul Yeah, I still remember that shot some 35-40 years ago before I quit the game. This vid makes absolute sense and I will give it a swing. Actually lots of swings. I am predominantly left-handed but play right-handed and will have train to to quit 'pulling' with my left arm. Seventy-nine seems a bit late to return to the game but why not!
Thanks. A lot of people do the strong grip and still slice. You would think if that was the cure no one would ever slice. Well, a strong grip is not the cure.
Its always important to see Paul Wilson videos, one time, then see them again lets say couple weeks later. Cause in golf we see many things that sometimes we forget a tip or drill and start trying something else, so its very important to see them at least once a month. So we dont forget those tips/drills. Thanks Paul Wilson. Always great tips to make less effort in golf.
Good one. People most certainly forget or they need change to couple the tips together as the pieces start to create the picture. Plus, you can never hear it enough.
Hi Paul, I had been struggling for years to hit shots in the sweet spot, not to mention keeping it in play. Your lesson on a weak grip, believe or not, today I shot 11 under my average score. Wow, what a feeling to hit every ball in the sweet spot and kept in on the fairway. Mate, you saved me a lot of anguish and embarrassment. Many, many, many thanks. John. Thai;and
Strong is wrong is a wonderful explanation of the correct grip.More than 50 years ago I was a handy golfer who hit the ball straight more often than not.About ten years ago, after a thirty-year absence from golf,I started playing again but have had this unpredictable and persistent draw with my iron shots and an occasional duck hook with my woods.I have been exactly the player you described; open the face;aim left(being left-handed); try to cut across the ball, etc.After your "Strong is Wrong" lesson today I hit about 20 balls up the paddock on my farm, using an adjusted grip.The last 15 shots went quite straight!!! My wrists felt free rather than locke up and the shots flew higher and much longer. Thank you Paul,this is the solution I have been searching for. Barry Murphy Pipers Creek Victoria Australia
I finally got a lesson after about 5 years of play and only breaking 90 once. Just like Paul described I would have great rounds(for me) and then horrendous rounds. The first lesson my pro totally changed my grip. I had an insanley strong grip and wasnt able to get good rotation or any release. I was staying back on the ball basically muscling it into the air. I was pulling and pushing just like Paul described. So he fixed me to a neutral grip. I was also having issues with a sore wrist and sore right shoulder which I attributed more to weight lifting than golf. Well after two weeks since that lesson I can tell you that my contact has been much cleaner, while I do have a slice I need to fix, my misses are consistent and I have a much smoother more explosive swing. Also my shoulder and wrist pain are basically gone. This was after two years of decent shoulder discomfort. I cant wait to see where this takes my game especially with more instruction. Signed a former strong gripper currently in recovery.
Paul, this is the best explanation I have seen. I recently made some changes where I was trying to keep clubhead pretty square instead of fanning it open like I used to. Better contact immediately, I then started to use more body and felt powerfull swings but started hooking the ball. Couldnt figure out why. Watching your video made me realize it was my grip because I was literally doing all 4 of the compensation moves you mentioned making golf difficult. I went to the range tonight with a weaker grip and a body swing. Saw my ball flight and sound change dramatically. You have a new subscriber and a fan! Thank you.
I'm impressed, I started golf at 46. take it seriously when I play. Yet I watch more video then practice. I live up north. I have listened to and followed a bunch of different videos some worked, some didn't. I don't golf a lot at all But I do spend some winter holiday time in Az and binge golf like 10 times in a month kind of thing yet play sparingly back at home. So I find that loosening my arms hinging my neutral grip(I'm left handed but golf right} and then using my body not my arms slowing down my swing enough to create same lag and I went from 230-240 shotgunning to over 275-280 average gained perfect straight distance on all my clubs such that I can rely on them shot after shot. So this shit works for me even when I don't golf for a while. Think you got some good ideas and you made me think about it more before I act. I've ingrained it in my muscle memory. Tight wrists made my arms sore, my shoulder sore and I believe my grip stronger . I'm not making a living at golf but I'm enjoying it. Keep up the good work and don't listen to the nah Sayers. If it where me and this didn't work I'd have moved on by now. over and out
I recently moved to a slightly stronger grip 21/2 -3 knuckles on my left hand with a relatively neutral right hand. My misses before the change were right. Now mine are a little left with greater distance. Now much easier to square the club face without having to think about bowing the left wrist on the way down.
Why not just do the neutral grip with looser wrists.? Right = tight. Your wrists were too tight. So now you are putting band aid on it instead of learning the neutral grip. Now, what you need to do is put down and alignment stick (properly) and you will see how much you are actually pulling the ball. After you do this strong grip for a few weeks or months and are still pulling it come back to my tip. Do the neutral grip and loosen your wrists. Then you will stop hitting with your arms (which you will be doing with that strong grip) and you can finally hit it straight from square. Keep us posted. Why would you be purposely trying to bow the wrist anyway? In no way would I ever tell anyone to do that. Again, another band aid.
I did exactly the same than Robert. I see 3 knuckles. My miss is now a push, I think its the best miss possible. I hook much more with a neutral grip as I feel I have to use compensation to square the face. I am 100% for a strongish grip.
Sir, I really enjoy your style of teaching--straightforward and simple to understand. I'm so glad I discovered your channel a few weeks ago. Much appreciated...Mark
I agree with the "it will feel awful" part. It's easy to fall back and resort to "comfortable" flaws over the course of a round. Just stick with it and you will eventually get used to the change. Great vid!
Hi Paul and thank you, you are spot on! I'm a 4 hcp and struggled with consistency lately. I have weakened my grip to a neutral position on each club/shot, and I hit hit straight with more solid contact. Small change, great improvement! Grip is the most important fundamental in golf!
Best grip instruction yet. I remember trying not to hit my 9 iron too far last weekend because I grabbed the wrong club. I tried nice and effortless with a weakish grip, that damn ball went 15 yards farther than my normal 9 iron
The prevailing wisdom in golf these days seems to be that a strong grip is more consistent. After three years trying to make the strong grip work, I haven't found this to be the case. I just switched to a neutral grip and my shot dispersion shrunk from a 50 yard lane to a 20 yard lane, and I don't smother hook the ball with my driver any more. Great video, thank you.
Same here. One instructor on TV even says, "Grip strong if you want to go long." Nope. Once I moved my grip back to neutral, like you, my margins shrank considerably.
You are spot on. I stumbled on this flaw in my own swing a few years ago but before fixing the grip, I too moved the ball back in my position, did the slide thing, opened the clubface and what I found was an inconsistent ball path. Then remembering Hogan and his statement reverse every natural instinct and do the opposite, I finally weakened my grip but feared a slice. Guess what, it didn't happen.
Exactly. You cannot have 1 flaw and hit straight shots. Yes, it is a game of opposites. This is due to human nature and the fact the ball is stationary.
Dude!! This is really good advice!! I am golfing tomorrow and cant wait to try it. I used to hit the ball on the hozel so someone told me to strengthen my grip. Which cured it but I could NEVER get a consistent shot for the life of me..!! I haven't played in yrs but cant wait to try this out..Thank you!!
I consistently hit them straight to the left. And I had a strong grip. Then I was trying to change everything when all I needed to do was change the grip. Such an awesome teacher and extremely handsome too
This problem has ruined my game for years. You are totally right about adding swing flaws to make up for an overly strong right hand. My whole swing makes much more sense now. Thank you!
Exactly. People didn't get my point. Glad you did. You can do this and have flaws in your swing but now you have to practice a lot. I don't and don't want to. I have hit enough balls for 10 lifetimes.
I used a strong grip for years. I finally decided to work through the weird feel of a weak/neutral grip and glad I did. Consistancy is much much better.
Hi Paul My handicap is 3 which is good I guess however i am always fixing one flaw after another with a strong grip! I admit it really is scary to have a neutral grip and let the arms relax however after passing the fear factor and around 50 shots IT WORKS !!! Thankyou very much!!!
Exactly. People quit. Need to do it for a bit to get used it. If not you will go right back to you old swing that doesn't work. Now you can get to scratch and rarely practice.
Thanks, I have been there, and I totally agree that it used to be a comforting strong feeling to hold on to the strong grip. And changing to neutral grip would usually start with slices for a strong gripper, but it is totally worth the effort until you master the muscle memory of flattening the left wrist. And with neutral grip, I don't have any more pains in arms comparing to using the strong grips. Totally recommended for new golfers before it is too late to change when you reach teens hcp and reluctant to spend time to risk the big swing changes.
Paul, I cannot thank you enough for the video and PDF chapter you sent me on the golf grip. For 48 years I have been playing golf with a very strong grip vs. the neutral grip you teach. Well, I thought what the heck I'm going to give Paul's way a try so off I went to the driving range. Paul, you are correct, that was the strangest feeling I have ever experienced holding the club your way. My right hand was so pissed off because it could no longer take over the swing. The first 15 - 20 balls went straight out to the right, but I was not going to throw in the towel just yet. I made sure that I checked my grip before hitting each shot and told myself to trust Paul's method. Of the 100 balls I hit not a single one was that pesky duck hook that rears its head without warning. Today's swing felt effortless, the ball went farther, and the strike on the club face was more centered than what I've experienced in the past.
That's great JP. So glad you stick with it. Too many people quit after tying something a few times. Plus, too many people thinking 1 change is going to get them hitting perfect shots. This is not necessarily the case. You might have to change a few things before you see the results. If it make sense "why" you have to do something then keep doing it. Keep up the good work.
Well, I just got back from the driving range and WOW the neutral grip has made a huge positive difference for me. Felt very strange, and there is an almost irresistible urge to go back to your old grip, you can see your fingers moving round, it's pretty funny actually. But if you accept the new grip and accept that it will work, it does. Can't wait to try it on the course. Many thanks Paul!
I realized now that i was using too strong of a grip, so i started loosening up my grip and using more of the fingers to hold my club and with a few practice swings, i was amazed to see how easier it was for me to do a backswing (something i had trouble with). My wrists are on their way to be a bit more loose. Wonderful tip Paul, thank you!
Hi Paul, I was very leary of your swing thoughts. I have been working on my game this year. I have the 80 game where I think with a few puts could have shoot in the mid to low 70s. Then i will shoot in the 90s, i thought it was contributed to not playing 3 to 4 time a week to groove my swing. I have a lot of power, hit my driver long and my irons also. I do have access to a simulator and have used it to distance my clubs, it has improved my game. Last week I happened to see your video, so .being an avid golfer and always looking for improvement like so many of us do. I thought I would spend time at the simulator with my driver. I have a little bit of a strong grip with my top hand maybe a bit stronger than you teach, but I do have my bottom hand over the top weakened.. Now for my test of your loose swing. It took a bit of time getting the wrists loose and not breaking down my arms. Finally I started to actually slow my swing down, or at least that was the feeling. The looseness of my wrists seemed to also help me get a better turn and felt like a longer swing and at least the same to a little faster ball speed. It took a little time to stop pushing the ball right, but I did straighten it out. Now for the results. Like I said I am a long hitter. From 150 I use my 46 degree pitching wedge. 190 yards I go to a 7 iron. Anyway I was working on my Driver, usually 250 is no problem with many at the 270 range. I have mostly gripped club on the tight side, So using your grip and loose wrists I was getting ball speeds at the 160+ range which on the simulator equated to many balls hitting the 300 mark. Now I haven't taken it to the course yet, that is tomorrow. I will let you know how it goes. I would love to work with you in person one day. I would like to be constantly be in the low 80s or 70s. This swing might just be the answer. By the way I will be 61 in March..
Well results of yesterdays round were quite amazing. First off let me say the round was basically practice and experimentation. My score of 93 didn't reflect how well the round went, and that my putting was off and missed no less than 5 short putts.. I took my driver out on more than the 3 or 4 times I usually do, because I wanted to get in some on course play with the new grip/swing. So moving on. Taking any new swing thoughts and changes to the course can be challenging.. Throughout the round I was struggling with getting my grip to stay weaker than I usually do. I found I was pushing many shots right, the effect made me look to strengthen my grip. I was also working on ball position. All that said i was extremely happy with the results. My swing felt effortlessly and was easy on my body. Hitting my driver much more than usual was a conscious decision beginning the round. Hitting it on many par 4s where I usually would bring my 3 wood out on. On the very first hole, a par 5 458 dog leg right, I hit a shot that was the longest ball iI have ever hit on this hole. Like I said earlier I pushed it a little right. But it was long, I had 153 yards in, was on in two, drive was over 300. I 3 putted for a par SMH. On another hole where I pulled the drive out I hit a ball so far that we couldn't see it land over the top of a hill, when we got to the ball i was 84 yard to the middle of green, hole was 386 yards. On the last hole of the day I think I hit my best drive of the day. In to the wind with an uphill fairway, I hit one of the best balls I have ever hit a 294 yard drive that everyone in my group just said wow. Left me 100 yards in and I shot a bogey. SMH Overall I would say I picked up no less than 25 yards with my driver. Was not that comfortable with my ball position. Fell I need to just play more with the change and things will go well. That's how my round went. I am excited about this new swing and will work on it. after all this was only the first round with it.
I think the best part about his explanation is that it gets you thinking about your grip and how it relates to his example. Lots of players wanna move their feet too much or change swing planes etc. Its not that complicated. Start with trying his grip and see what happens first.
I'm going to try this today as it appears I have this 'strong' grip and I am doing everything that Paul talks about in this video. The neutral grip feels weird (as he said it would) but I'm going to persevere with it as it makes sense to me as an 18 h'capper. I agree with Paul that the pros will probably get ultimate power from a strong grip but only through huge amounts of practice. And talent!
Tony Middlehurst yeah the neutral grip felt weird to me at first too but its only because the thumb isn't supported like it is on a strong grip so it almost feels like you have to swing a little harder to get the same club speed as the strong grip but the problem with a strong grip is it closes the club face slightly so if your club path isn't to the right your gunna hit a snap hook or a hook that starts at your target and goes left what we want is a club path that is going to the right with a club face slightly left or square and since your swinging out to the right your golf ball will start to the right and depending on the position of your club face open or closed will depend on the curve on the ball open goes higher lands softer closed go lower roll more so if you played the right ball for each shot you should be shooting low scores in no time! This guy could be right tho about the wrists not hinging on a strong grip and its really important that you hinge in the golf swing to get solid clean contact every time but honestly I havnt gotten into problems using a strong grip it only helps me curve the ball more if im trying to get a little more distance the more curve you have the more spin you have!
Thanks paul so much'' I used these tips on the course yesterday and I gotta say my game improved tremendously'''' I'm wrapped about it' felt effortless as well it worked for me thanks once again',
I agree with you, i have recently worked on my grip from a slightly strong to more neutral. I feel much more control over the clubhead. I feel much more relaxed in setup, with fewer compensations due to a strong grip. My tendencies were to adress the ball with a slightly forward shaft towards the target. That gave me a strong grip. Now my shaft is more right up and i can grip the club properly. Also, i can come down more in to out in my downswing. Yes it maybe contradicts what is usually taught with a strong grip. BUT! A strong grip leads to a closed face in wich the body reacts to with sliding to the target wich creates a more steep aoa. In some cases like mine leads to thin shots.
Hi Paul, what a difference that all makes. My overpowering right hand was killing my swing, and I was hooking everything left. I have now abandoned the interlocking grip, I found it was locking up my hands and forearms. I am using either the overlapping grip or the baseball grip at times. With 2/10 grip pressure, my wrists hinge freely, I hit a few wild ones t the start but my tempo is better, the shots are straighter, the ball hangs in the air longer, and its much more pleasurable. I've been whacking that golf ball with the right hand for years, now I can see that it just accompanies the swing and helps present the face correctly, that's all. In fact, it almost feel like I forget it's there. I can just feel a bit of pressure on the right forefinger trigger at impact, but that is a result and not an intention on my part, which makes all the difference!;
When I tried that interlocking grip my pinky was killing me. Just depends on the curvature of your fingers I guess. Glad you are doing the overlap and getting results.
To the non-believers - I just shot a +4 round on a legit course using Paul Wilson's FREE YT videos. I couldn't believe it my self, on the range I hit a bucket, took the same mental and physical result to the first tee and never looked back. Finished round without the back pain/strain I normally had prior to finding Paul teachings. I'm 62 and now excited to go golfing again. Watch, practice and enjoy the game. Thank You Paul. I'm so convinced I may head to LAS for a school date!
Wow, that's great. I love hearing it. Next round out you are going to think you are invincible. Just got out with no expectations. I you start hitting it thing, slicing it or topping it immediately slow down and loosen back up again. Just let me know if you can make to town.
This is true, you changed my game play because of this, my shot is always going to the right i dont know why, and i saw this video while searching why im always hit to the right. Thank you Paul.
Glad you liked it. Too many people are trying to put band aids on there swing looking for a quick fix. The thing is, you can still slice it with a strong grip so obviously a strong grip isn't the fix. Need a neutral grip and loose wrists. Just takes commitment and understanding. Glad you are sticking with it.
Not bad advice, but saying strong is totally wrong is just way off base. I am a high handicapper and have a strong grip but hit irons 20 yds further and consistently straighter with a strong grip that feels more natural to me. Took lessons and the first thing instructor tried to do was weaken my grip and all of a sudden couldn't hit the ball straight to save my life. Not saying a neutral grip is garbage, but there are alot of opinions, none of which are wrong if you can consistently hit the ball straight. Just my humble opinion.
I am brand new to golf (3 months) and definitely have a death grip on the club. I will being trying this technique after my back injury heals from the way i have been gripping the club. Wow!! I am shocked at the haters in the comments. Its as if Paul personally attacked your own golf swing! I believe if your searching out videos on your swing you clearly aren't hitting balls to perfection. Geez! People! give Paul a break. He's saying if your NOT hitting the ball straight, far, etc. here's where you might consider making a few adjustments. But your golf game is perfect right? That's why you wound up looking up golf tips.
I think what you say about the position of the hands is great, but I think what you call a neutral grip is what many others would actually call a strong grip with being able to see the first two knuckles of both hands.
I like the theory of a neutral grip and what you say makes complete sense. I have a strong 4 knuckle grip. On a good day I can break 80. On a bad day it will be high 90s. But it seems to me that the hinge swing with loose wrists requires perfect timing in every shot with absolutely no room for error. Still, I’m willing to give it a try!
So you need to master the neutral grip. ruclips.net/video/uRWI8Mhnsa8/видео.html and do this to unlock your wrists: ruclips.net/video/Xk7t9yHCO-I/видео.html Timing is a no brainer. Everyone seems to think this is a big deal when really it's so simple.
Have been getting a callous on left forefinger and suspected it was due to over strong grip - this was exactly the confirmation I needed. Thanks from the Uk
It sure can come in handy if needed, but you don't want a hook to come from nowhere and not know where its coming from. If you are hooking it then you have a grip problem.
Hi paul. Thanks for sharing your tips. I’m deaf so the subtitles helps. I’m from uk and been to Las Vegas five times so will look you up if possible for 1-2-1 lesson as I cannot use drivers. So using iron 1,3. Cheers
Well your wrists are not wrists. They are a hinge. If a hinge hinges does it not rehinge if the hinge is loose 100% of the time? Yes. Timing is so simple. You don't see it as I am seeing it. Plus, there is only 1 widest arc. This is the length of your arms. If you did nothing to influence the club and you started with a square face arms extended how to you square the face? Answer: you stretch your arms out. Starting to see it? The problem with a strong grip is that you are not starting with the face square to the extended arms. Now that takes timing which is why people with a strong grip have to practice a lot. If you want to do that feel free.
I played with a neutral grip for the longest time and struggled to consistently make solid contact. My swing was much like what you teach and I would hit the ball pretty straight most of the time but tended to thin the ball or hit it off the toe. Both cost me a decent amount of distance loss. My miss tended to be a 15-20 yard fade. A friend of mine who plays with a stronger grip suggested I try a strong grip. He pointed out that most tour players including the best ball striker ever with a conventional swing (Ben Hogan) had a strong grip. I did A LOT of research online looking up photos and watching videos and, sure enough, they all had strong grips. The one standout who didn't use a strong grip was Jack Nicklaus. I decided to give it a shot along with focusing on keeping my right elbow tight to my body (ALA Ben Hogan) and simply turn my body. I found that I am hitting the ball much more solidly and consistently. I am not thinning it nor hitting off the toe. I have found that by keeping my elbow tight I am able to keep my hands ahead of the clubhead and have much better shaft lean at impact which is compressing the ball much better than my old swing. I have also noticed a marked increase in my ball distance. My total driver distance with the old swing was 260-270. Now I am averaging 290 and can get it over 300 3-4 times out of 10. I still feel like I have an effortless swing because I don't feel like I have to swing out of my shoes to get the distance I want and I am keeping my arms pretty relaxed. I personally think that there isn't one way (grip/swing) to play this great game. I think there are many ways to get to the same result and each of us has to find the way that works best for us as individuals.
The thin and toed shots were you coming out of it. Also, fading 15-20 yards. Your wrists were too tight. This would not allow the face to square plus you would have lost distance. I don't see Hogan with a strong grip at all. He may have when he had has his upright swing which is the cause of his hooking problem. In no way was it strong in the later years. Watch: ruclips.net/video/y8RwgK7h_OM/видео.html If his grip was strong he would have been shut at the top which he was actually open relative to the lead arm. Nicklaus, Snead, Tiger, Byron Nelson, Faldo, Watson, Player etc. etc. had neutral grips so there are a few more for your list. Unfortunately. I did not see your swing from before or now to see what you are doing and how weak or strong you actually think your grip is. Some people have a weak grip so people tell them to strengthen it. It feel strong compared to the weaker grip. I would suggest doing your new grip and putting an alignment stick on the ground after you set up. Let's see where you are actually aimed with the strong grip. If your grip is strong and your wrists are loose you will need another flaw in your swing to compensate for the strong grip.
Yeah Ben Hogan was fighting the big hook miss so he weakened his grip significantly and used a swing that would typically draw the ball with a neutral grip which created the classic Ben Hogan fade. A lot of ways to grip and swing a twig.
@@paulwilsongolf Anyone who describes Hogan's grip as strong cannot have looked at the pictures in Hogan's books, or just doesn't understand what he is looking at. Moe Norman (who had a strong grip) was at least as good a ball striker as Hogan, but he made extraordinary compensating moves, so it worked for him (and hit many hundreds of balls every day to hone those compensations).
I used to hit a hard draw /hook of the tee. Works well on right to left holes. Could not hit irons straight worth a nickel. Using a neutral right hand has worked wonders. Mr Wilson describes all the compensation we hookers made like aiming right, ball back in the stance. Bye bye to all that ! Thank you very much.
Very good. Glad you saw it and worked on it. Life will be a lot less frustrating now. These guys can keep saying I'm wrong all they want. I used to have a strong grip. They keep blabbing that this pro and that pro have strong grips. They obviously didn't watch the tip. How about Hogan, Nicklaus, Watson, Faldo, Tiger, Byron Nelson, Mike Austion, Mike Dunaway etc. etc. (all neutral grips). You are actually going to compare Azinger to Tiger? Really. You can do a strong grip all you want. I could care less. It means that you will have other compensations in your swing). You have compensations you need to practice (a lot). I would prefer hitting it dead straight and not being at the range all day. I've got tips to post!
Yikes Paul!…Cant believe all of the rough/hateful comments you’ve received…I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion. I for one really enjoy your free content and tips!…I was always a “Grip n rip guy” (swing hard and try to kill it , always struggled with the fade/slice). Now at 54 I’ve lost distance but have regained a lot back with a neutral grip and concentrating on loose grip and wrists + hitting the ball straighter than ever...So thank you!
Yes, these are people who do not listen. Glad you see it and did it. For you that don't want to do it I will explain it again: You cannot have a strong grip and loose wrists. If so you will hook everything. To compensation for the hook, you will have another flaw. If so, you now have 2 flaws so you have to practice constantly. Most people have lives. Yes, there are pros who have a strong grip and flaws but they are pros. So if you want to hit 300-500 balls a day, then do a strong grip. I could care less. Me, I prefer to rarely practice.
Crazy game. The strong grip you’re speaking against works if you fire your hips on through the ball. And the part where you mentioned a strong grip forces the timing of some other part of the swing to be perfect...maybe so...but with your weak grip, or weak/neutral grip, that little wrist flip youre teaching at impact, now THAT must be timed perfectly....which is impossible every swing. While it can work, that neutral, boomer style just ain’t the way to do it.
Yeah so what average golfer have you seen that every turns their hips more than 15 degrees at impact. That is 90% of all golfers I have taught. Timing. I guess you have never seen me teach. Timing is a non issue for me to teach. Just got to know what to look for and how to teach it. You strong grippers can keep doing the strong grip all you want. I prefer hitting it straight and not having to practice.
Paul Wilson Golf Tomato tomato. Rewatching your grip vid I heard you mention something to the effect of it being geared towards higher handicappers. My mistake. 100%, I totally agree with your neutral grip lesson. That’s why you’re the pro, and I am Joe. Nothing but respect✊
Paul, I can’t agree with you on this point. I’ve found a strong grip really help me straighten my shots and introduce nice baby draws. Whilst you might get a closed face at address position, if you achieve a good impact position with hands ahead of the ball, this automatically straightens up the face naturally. When I want to fade the ball, I take a neutral grip and move the ball a little forward of centre. This works well but is a lot shorter than when I take my regular strong grip. Consequently I need 1 or 2 extra clubs when I fade it into the same distance. I’m no pro, but I’ve got my handicap down from 18 to 12 in the last 2 months using a strong grip. I want to get to single figures, so I’m keen to continue experimenting. From here I think it’s mostly about putting and chipping. Comments? Cheers, Pete
But to hold the face square through impact you are locking your wrists. Also, I guarantee you are hitting pull hooks not baby draws. Line up and put an alignment stick at your toe line. You will see you are aimed right pull hooking it. So you have 3 flaws as I suggest in the video. One day standing on hole 15 ready to break 80 you are going to snap it out of bounds. You'll see. Let me know when you do. No one is telling you to fade it. I want the neutral grip and loose wrists powering the swing with your body not your arms.
I developed a bad hook, probably a combination of changing my grip to strong and pulling down with my hands first. I’m going to try the lesson in your video by first going back to a neutral grip.
Man! I have been doing it all wrong . I’ve watched 15 or so of your videos tonight . I’m 29, hit my first golf ball in October . I learned from everyone in my group , and together we rarely do well except in a scramble . Before tonight , I aim for right side tree line Super strong grip . Arms stiff as a board . Wrists locked . John Daly style grip it and rip it Mostly hit a soft hook I refer to as a draw, but occasionally I hit a 90 degree right hander onto the next fairway lol. I’m going to give your advice a shot !
When I played there were times when I could hook like crazy even with a weak grip. Obviously something else was going on. I found that trying really hard to stay down was the best cure for me.
You may have thought you grip was weak but you were actually changing your grip to strong as you took it back. I did this years ago. With a neutral grip you wouldn't be able to hook and iron more than maybe 5 yards with irons and 10 -15 with driver without purposely rolling it over. I would do the neutral grip I teach then video your swing to see if you are moving it or not. ruclips.net/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/видео.html
Completely agree with neutral, the thing is, not every body's neutral position is the same, when a person stands up straight; count there visible knuckles on their TARGET hand (Left hand for a right handed player), if its 2, 3 or 4 knuckles, that THEIR neutral or natural hand position.
I had a very strong grip! I've started to have a weak, neutral grip and I'm actually hitting the ball farther! I was hooking the ball so bad I almost quit the game! You're straight on point!
This explained what happened to me on the back nine perfectly, I tried to "slow down my swing" and be more natural and it went straight left off the tee every time. Any tips for making the transition feel more comfortable? Thank you!
Slowing down loosened your wrists so the strong grip got you hooking it. I prefer the neutral grip with super loose wrists. Once you get that you are firing the lower pretty hard and fast. You get comfortable by knowing exactly what you are trying to do then of course repeating it daily in practice swings then at the range. As you fire the lower and hit amazing shots you will get comfortable with it pretty quick. I have tons of lets and hips tip on the channel. Here are some: Trigger: ruclips.net/video/RdphthCQ9VM/видео.html Cheek Trigger: ruclips.net/video/j1mS5Ku8Q10/видео.html ruclips.net/video/4MSzW7R8Acs/видео.html ruclips.net/video/bhuWpD-1hvg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Q0zvcYZPOok/видео.html ruclips.net/video/lUOLMl_zmek/видео.html ruclips.net/video/UwynwFBldv4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/vMJeVYKZo54/видео.html
You're overlooking the fact that people have different sized hands. Smaller hands require a stronger left hand grip to properly hold in the palm. Right hand should generally be neutral regardless of hand size. So viewers should know mileage can vary. There is no one rule of golf. Stronger left hand grip works well for an average joe like me and also many star players like Rory Mcilroy.
Hand size and grip position are not related, you would want to vary the size of your grips. I have seen people with small hands go to ladies size grips and vice versa.
Do you use the same swing and grip when you chip the ball? I had a terrible bout of shanking my chips last year and applied your idea of swinging back with my shoulders and swinging through with my legs and it worked wonders!
Hi Paul , I'm 62 retired 5 years ago and have decided to learn to swing a club. After reviewing many of the swing styles out there , your approach seems to make the most sense . Plan to sign up for your digital course . Question I have concerning the grip is, I am ambidextrous . Left handed swing right and my left hand is my stronger hand. Is this situation covered in your course? thanks
Great to hear. It should make sense because I say it with the student in mind. I think what are you hearing as I say it. I used to think like that for about the first 10 years of teaching. I would also analyze the student as I said it. So I say things they way I do because they work. Thanks for your support. You don't need to do anything different with the grip. If anything you have an advantage because your bottom hand is not the strong hand. You will be able to balance them out without issue.
Yes you are on to something. I have a strong R hand and strong L hand. Draw it but too many times hooks it. Very frustrating. My wrist wants to be loose though. When I time it well I draw it nicely but too often I hook it or push it. I will try from tomorrow to neutralize my grip. Do you Stack & Tilt it or move to right leg? Do I lose some power from S & T? Thanks Great Explanation! 👌
The grip is vital. Just follow my steps here: ruclips.net/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/видео.html I move to the right leg. Why on earth would I want to do a reverse pivot. Mind boggling they have people doing this.
I've always had a strong grip and without even knowing its effect on the clubface, I've recently been trying to learn to draw the ball because I usually push it or push fade (what a surprise). My question Paul is if I switch to a neutral grip can I learn to draw the ball easier using the same draw techniques I've implemented because now the club face will be square? Also could you explain why I've only been hitting severe hooks with driver and all my other clubs and irons are relatively straight or pushed? I am trying out the neutral grip the first time at the range tomorrow.
If you want to try to learn a perfect draw then you should have a slightly strong grip. I explain it in this tip: ruclips.net/video/UelTA7btZg8/видео.html Take a lot of consistent work to hit it perfectly. Seems like you have the path so the grip with looser wrists should get it to draw back. You might be hooking only the driver just due to it's length, how it feels, changing your grip jus before you take it back etc. There could be any number of reasons but the severe hook is telling you that the grip is too strong. I would think just before you take it back you change the grip to strong which shuts the face. I would video it. I used to do this so I know all about it. Watch your takeaway and see if your grip moves just as you take the club back. I would learn the neutral grip and work on loose wrists. You can do that here: Learn the neutral grip too here: ruclips.net/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/видео.html Wrist Release Drills ruclips.net/video/5_O0H2QNFo0/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Xk7t9yHCO-I/видео.html ruclips.net/video/7olBqwXF3Ik/видео.html
Thanks for the vid. Tried out a neutral grip and started hitting some longer straighter shots. Just wondering what are the benefits of using a strong grip since so many pros are using it?
I agree completely. I tried for years to make a strong grip work reliably and always failed. It wasn’t until I went to a neutral grip and relaxed wrists that I gained any degree of consistency and reliability.
With a weak to neutral grip, in order to 'hinge' the wrists, the left wrist will be cupped - creating an overly open face. Otherwise, the wrists aren't hinging at (wrist extension and flexion) but performing ulnar and radial deviation, which is done minimally and essentially locks the wrists.
@@paulwilsongolf There is nothing wrong about what I said. I prefer a slightly cupped wrist as it's a bio-mechanically correct position for the wrist/hand to be in when grasping an object.
@@paulwilsongolf Also, per your link, at 3:53 when you demonstrate hinging your wrists, your club face is absolutely open. In order the "hinge" the wrists in the golf swing, which is actually wrist extension, the ulna must rotate slightly clockwise, which opens the club face. You did it without even realizing it. For reference, I am an occupational therapist. If you want to argue about this, I'll be more than happy to.
I am not even doing a swing at that point in the video. The left wrist wound slightly cupped due to the 2 knuckle grip position creating an angle in the lead wrist. ruclips.net/video/uRWI8Mhnsa8/видео.html
As a 65 yr old strong grip (bottom hand only) guy who still hits the ball 275 off the tee, I can tell you nobody wants a good grip better than me. About 60-70% of my tee shots are OK, but the rest I tend to pull. However, mentally when I correct my grip, I feel the clubhead is out of position at the top of my swing, and it messes me up. It feels completely wrong. Maybe 200 balls at the range with the right grip would help. Worth a try I guess.
Hi Paul, I've been struggling with a slice for years. Tried the stronger grip a few weeks ago and although I hit it much straighter I was losing a full club in distance. So at the range today I tired this neutral grip. I hit it straight and got my distance back. I went back and forth between the two grips and the neutral grip works for me. Cheers
Very good. Not sure how many amazing comments I need before everyone at least tries it. Hope they do. You too are proof this is the grip everyone needs to be doing.
Having a great season with the bodyswing Paul. First ever comp yesterday and hit net par :) Nice straight iron play. Awful on the greens so could have been great, but feeling good off the fairway.
I lock the pinky finger of my right hand to the index finger of my left hand in my grip. Can I still do this with the grip you teach? I love your videos by the way. I'm eager to try out your methods. 95% of the time I can hit my irons straight but my driver is a slice machine. Keep up the great videos.
As long as someone else is successfully able to use it, including pros, you can never say it’s wrong. You can probably say it’s hard. But to say it’s wrong is wrong. If you can’t hit it right, it doesn’t mean it’s wrong. It’s just not the right grip for you. An experienced and knowledgeable coach/trainer would say so. Alot of pros use it, so tell me how they got to that position by doing so. It’s called a grip for a reason. If it wasn’t something you could use, it wouldn’t be called a grip in the first place. All grips, be it neutral, weak, or strong are good for different types of players depending on their capabilities. You may be the first person I know saying a grip to be wrong. Quite odd for a coach/trainer/player.
Like many others you did not hear what I said in the tip. If you have a strong grip and loose wrists you will hook every shot. Just try it. ONce you do you now need to do something to hit it on target. So you add another flaw/compensation. Now you have timing of the 2 flaws and compensations. This means you have to practice. A lot. How do I know this? I used to draw it. If you want to do a strong grip and practice a lot as well as scratching your head why you lose it left go right ahead. For me, I would rather rarely practice and hit 80% fairways. Have fun.
Thanks Paul. I injured my Left Thumb ligament (Skier's Thump). My days of placing my Left Thump down the Grip are over. I have developed a grip where I wrap my Left Thumb around the grip (like a TRUE BASEBALL GRIP). It work's and the pain is avoided BUT I have the Mother of all Hooks! Can you advise as to how I can implement the neutral grip with the Left Thump so positioned? Appreciation in advance!
Well that's fine with the left hand but your right is strong too is you are hooking it without trying too hook it. Follow my grip here the best you can: ruclips.net/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/видео.html
I laughed while watching the grip video - this is EXACTLY me. Constantly left or right with a strong grip and loose wrists. I'm taking some lessons to improve my grip and swing.
Glad you liked it. Thanks. Yes, it is kind of slow out there nowadays. Remember when you didn't even have to book tee times. Those were the days. Just come out and play.
i use neutral grip for irons and slightly strong for fairway woods and stronger grip for driver. But hit driver off big toe or mid-lead foot and they tend to go straight.
Thank you Paul. I started getting stronger and stronger with my grip because it feels more powerful. After a few months everything was going left, and my driver became unmanageable. I realized that a strong grip requires so many other faults to square the face that it makes the swing so inconsistent. It forces you to tuck and tighten everything, and promotes a too much of an inside out swing. I spent a few range sessions going back to a neutral grip with loose arms and wrists, and it’s put me right back to playing consistent, straight golf again. My body also hurts a lot less and no golfers elbow. My confidence has returned, and it’s made the game fun again. Thanks.
Your teachings have stopped me from losing 10-12 balls per round off the tee. I was always a long hitter for my age (52), averaging 265-280 yards, but would push the ball and sometimes slice right and lose 8-10 balls per round and 8-10 strokes per round off the Tee Box with the driver.... Your method has put me right down the pipe and i'm killing it 270-290 yards.. Everyone I golf with says it looks like i'm barely swinging and they cannot believe how far I hit the ball.. Thanks a bunch !!!! Ive tried to tell all my buddies who struggle with slicing to watch your videos...
After laying off golf all winter, started playing the last couple weeks. Sure enough, I've been hooking the ball. Was thinking after playing last Wed I got to change something and you come along with your video. Spot on as usual and the light bulb when on. Everything in it I was doing to try and get it straight. Been following you for years. Definitely one of the best and I appreciate all you do for us weekend golfers. I know I'll change the grip today and I'll get back to hitting the ball straight. Thank you!
best explanation on grip I have ever experienced, instantly changed my game for the better, you are a true golf pundit
Thanks. I love it when people hear what I am saying and actually try it.
Thank you, Paul!! I did this, and yes, it felt awful.... I slowed down the swing and let it release, and BOOOM ! I never hit it so far, and straight! I mean laser straight! U DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great job. Have fun strong grippers. Me and Armand are hanging by the pool while you grind it out on the range every day. Have fun!
Hilarious!!! Thank you again for all great videos and tips
Hi Paul Yeah, I still remember that shot some 35-40 years ago before I quit the game. This vid makes absolute sense and I will give it a swing. Actually lots of swings. I am predominantly left-handed but play right-handed and will have train to to quit 'pulling' with my left arm. Seventy-nine seems a bit late to return to the game but why not!
Great video. This was addressing my exact problem. I've been using the strong grip to stop those infuriating slices.
Thanks. A lot of people do the strong grip and still slice. You would think if that was the cure no one would ever slice. Well, a strong grip is not the cure.
It’s all about the wrist If you slice your not getting your wrist to turn over on the down swing
Its always important to see Paul Wilson videos, one time, then see them again lets say couple weeks later. Cause in golf we see many things that sometimes we forget a tip or drill and start trying something else, so its very important to see them at least once a month. So we dont forget those tips/drills. Thanks Paul Wilson. Always great tips to make less effort in golf.
Good one. People most certainly forget or they need change to couple the tips together as the pieces start to create the picture. Plus, you can never hear it enough.
Hi Paul, I had been struggling for years to hit shots in the sweet spot, not to mention keeping it in play. Your lesson on a weak grip, believe or not, today I shot 11 under my average score. Wow, what a feeling to hit every ball in the sweet spot and kept in on the fairway. Mate, you saved me a lot of anguish and embarrassment. Many, many, many thanks. John. Thai;and
Strong is wrong is a wonderful explanation of the correct grip.More than 50 years ago I was a handy golfer who hit the ball straight more often than not.About ten years ago, after a thirty-year absence from golf,I started playing again but have had this unpredictable and persistent draw with my iron shots and an occasional duck hook with my woods.I have been exactly the player you described; open the face;aim left(being left-handed); try to cut across the ball, etc.After your "Strong is Wrong" lesson today I hit about 20 balls up the paddock on my farm, using an adjusted grip.The last 15 shots went quite straight!!! My wrists felt free rather than locke up and the shots flew higher and much longer. Thank you Paul,this is the solution I have been searching for. Barry Murphy Pipers Creek Victoria Australia
Glad you liked it and tried it. It's a great feeling when you know you are not going to hit a huge hook out of the blue. Please stick with it.
I finally got a lesson after about 5 years of play and only breaking 90 once. Just like Paul described I would have great rounds(for me) and then horrendous rounds. The first lesson my pro totally changed my grip. I had an insanley strong grip and wasnt able to get good rotation or any release. I was staying back on the ball basically muscling it into the air. I was pulling and pushing just like Paul described. So he fixed me to a neutral grip. I was also having issues with a sore wrist and sore right shoulder which I attributed more to weight lifting than golf. Well after two weeks since that lesson I can tell you that my contact has been much cleaner, while I do have a slice I need to fix, my misses are consistent and I have a much smoother more explosive swing. Also my shoulder and wrist pain are basically gone. This was after two years of decent shoulder discomfort. I cant wait to see where this takes my game especially with more instruction. Signed a former strong gripper currently in recovery.
Paul, this is the best explanation I have seen. I recently made some changes where I was trying to keep clubhead pretty square instead of fanning it open like I used to.
Better contact immediately, I then started to use more body and felt powerfull swings but started hooking the ball. Couldnt figure out why.
Watching your video made me realize it was my grip because I was literally doing all 4 of the compensation moves you mentioned making golf difficult.
I went to the range tonight with a weaker grip and a body swing. Saw my ball flight and sound change dramatically.
You have a new subscriber and a fan! Thank you.
Excellent. Glad you tried it.
I'm impressed, I started golf at 46. take it seriously when I play. Yet I watch more video then practice. I live up north. I have listened to and followed a bunch of different videos some worked, some didn't. I don't golf a lot at all But I do spend some winter holiday time in Az and binge golf like 10 times in a month kind of thing yet play sparingly back at home. So I find that loosening my arms hinging my neutral grip(I'm left handed but golf right} and then using my body not my arms slowing down my swing enough to create same lag and I went from 230-240 shotgunning to over 275-280 average gained perfect straight distance on all my clubs such that I can rely on them shot after shot. So this shit works for me even when I don't golf for a while. Think you got some good ideas and you made me think about it more before I act. I've ingrained it in my muscle memory. Tight wrists made my arms sore, my shoulder sore and I believe my grip stronger . I'm not making a living at golf but I'm enjoying it. Keep up the good work and don't listen to the nah Sayers. If it where me and this didn't work I'd have moved on by now. over and out
I recently moved to a slightly stronger grip 21/2 -3 knuckles on my left hand with a relatively neutral right hand. My misses before the change were right. Now mine are a little left with greater distance. Now much easier to square the club face without having to think about bowing the left wrist on the way down.
Why not just do the neutral grip with looser wrists.? Right = tight. Your wrists were too tight. So now you are putting band aid on it instead of learning the neutral grip. Now, what you need to do is put down and alignment stick (properly) and you will see how much you are actually pulling the ball. After you do this strong grip for a few weeks or months and are still pulling it come back to my tip. Do the neutral grip and loosen your wrists. Then you will stop hitting with your arms (which you will be doing with that strong grip) and you can finally hit it straight from square. Keep us posted.
Why would you be purposely trying to bow the wrist anyway? In no way would I ever tell anyone to do that. Again, another band aid.
I did exactly the same than Robert. I see 3 knuckles. My miss is now a push, I think its the best miss possible. I hook much more with a neutral grip as I feel I have to use compensation to square the face. I am 100% for a strongish grip.
Sir, I really enjoy your style of teaching--straightforward and simple to understand. I'm so glad I discovered your channel a few weeks ago. Much appreciated...Mark
Thanks. I appreciate it.
I agree with the "it will feel awful" part. It's easy to fall back and resort to "comfortable" flaws over the course of a round. Just stick with it and you will eventually get used to the change. Great vid!
Well said!
Hi Paul and thank you, you are spot on! I'm a 4 hcp and struggled with consistency lately. I have weakened my grip to a neutral position on each club/shot, and I hit hit straight with more solid contact. Small change, great improvement! Grip is the most important fundamental in golf!
Best grip instruction yet. I remember trying not to hit my 9 iron too far last weekend because I grabbed the wrong club. I tried nice and effortless with a weakish grip, that damn ball went 15 yards farther than my normal 9 iron
It takes alot of discipline to learn the fundamental's of golf. This guy knows what hes talking about. Excellent video !
Thanks for watching!!
The prevailing wisdom in golf these days seems to be that a strong grip is more consistent. After three years trying to make the strong grip work, I haven't found this to be the case. I just switched to a neutral grip and my shot dispersion shrunk from a 50 yard lane to a 20 yard lane, and I don't smother hook the ball with my driver any more. Great video, thank you.
Yeah, funny how they bash me for teaching a neutral grip yet the best of all time used it. Glad you tried it and made the change.
Same here. One instructor on TV even says, "Grip strong if you want to go long." Nope. Once I moved my grip back to neutral, like you, my margins shrank considerably.
You are spot on. I stumbled on this flaw in my own swing a few years ago but before fixing the grip, I too moved the ball back in my position, did the slide thing, opened the clubface and what I found was an inconsistent ball path. Then remembering Hogan and his statement reverse every natural instinct and do the opposite, I finally weakened my grip but feared a slice. Guess what, it didn't happen.
Exactly. You cannot have 1 flaw and hit straight shots. Yes, it is a game of opposites. This is due to human nature and the fact the ball is stationary.
Dude!! This is really good advice!! I am golfing tomorrow and cant wait to try it. I used to hit the ball on the hozel so someone told me to strengthen my grip. Which cured it but I could NEVER get a consistent shot for the life of me..!! I haven't played in yrs but cant wait to try this out..Thank you!!
I consistently hit them straight to the left. And I had a strong grip. Then I was trying to change everything when all I needed to do was change the grip. Such an awesome teacher and extremely handsome too
Glad you figured it out. It all starts with the grip.
Paul you are exactly spot on with this ,I started doing this but old habits came back to provide issues in my game.
Neutral grip. Follow this until it is mastered: ruclips.net/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/видео.html
This problem has ruined my game for years. You are totally right about adding swing flaws to make up for an overly strong right hand. My whole swing makes much more sense now. Thank you!
Exactly. People didn't get my point. Glad you did. You can do this and have flaws in your swing but now you have to practice a lot. I don't and don't want to. I have hit enough balls for 10 lifetimes.
mikeosmith 7/13/18Paul, In 70 yrs I have never had anyone explain why strong is wrong. Thanks for correcting my hook swing, Great lesson,
Thanks. I appreciate it.
I used a strong grip for years. I finally decided to work through the weird feel of a weak/neutral grip and glad I did. Consistancy is much much better.
Still going with this?
But isnt it hard to get the timing down?
Exactly. Glad you tried it. Now keep doing it.
Hi Paul My handicap is 3 which is good I guess however i am always fixing one flaw after another with a strong grip! I admit it really is scary to have a neutral grip and let the arms relax however after passing the fear factor and around 50 shots IT WORKS !!! Thankyou very much!!!
Exactly. People quit. Need to do it for a bit to get used it. If not you will go right back to you old swing that doesn't work. Now you can get to scratch and rarely practice.
Thanks, I have been there, and I totally agree that it used to be a comforting strong feeling to hold on to the strong grip. And changing to neutral grip would usually start with slices for a strong gripper, but it is totally worth the effort until you master the muscle memory of flattening the left wrist. And with neutral grip, I don't have any more pains in arms comparing to using the strong grips. Totally recommended for new golfers before it is too late to change when you reach teens hcp and reluctant to spend time to risk the big swing changes.
Great info and tips for someone like me who doesn’t have the time, back and elbow to hit 300 to 500 balls a day. Thanks Mr. Wilson!
Very good. Now we're getting the idea.
Paul, I cannot thank you enough for the video and PDF chapter you sent me on the golf grip. For 48 years I have been playing golf with a very strong grip vs. the neutral grip you teach. Well, I thought what the heck I'm going to give Paul's way a try so off I went to the driving range. Paul, you are correct, that was the strangest feeling I have ever experienced holding the club your way. My right hand was so pissed off because it could no longer take over the swing. The first 15 - 20 balls went straight out to the right, but I was not going to throw in the towel just yet. I made sure that I checked my grip before hitting each shot and told myself to trust Paul's method. Of the 100 balls I hit not a single one was that pesky duck hook that rears its head without warning. Today's swing felt effortless, the ball went farther, and the strike on the club face was more centered than what I've experienced in the past.
That's great JP. So glad you stick with it. Too many people quit after tying something a few times. Plus, too many people thinking 1 change is going to get them hitting perfect shots. This is not necessarily the case. You might have to change a few things before you see the results. If it make sense "why" you have to do something then keep doing it. Keep up the good work.
Well, I just got back from the driving range and WOW the neutral grip has made a huge positive difference for me. Felt very strange, and there is an almost irresistible urge to go back to your old grip, you can see your fingers moving round, it's pretty funny actually. But if you accept the new grip and accept that it will work, it does. Can't wait to try it on the course. Many thanks Paul!
Glad you tried it. Another convert. 99 million to go.
My golf coach has me doing this grip. I love it. Has straightened my shots out immensely.
Exactly. Everyone needs to do it.
I realized now that i was using too strong of a grip, so i started loosening up my grip and using more of the fingers to hold my club and with a few practice swings, i was amazed to see how easier it was for me to do a backswing (something i had trouble with). My wrists are on their way to be a bit more loose. Wonderful tip Paul, thank you!
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
Had a lesson last week, this was the fix, and I'm back to hitting balls straight. It felt so strange at first but now I trust my swing again.
Hi Paul,
I was very leary of your swing thoughts. I have been working on my game this year. I have the 80 game where I think with a few puts could have shoot in the mid to low 70s. Then i will shoot in the 90s, i thought it was contributed to not playing 3 to 4 time a week to groove my swing. I have a lot of power, hit my driver long and my irons also. I do have access to a simulator and have used it to distance my clubs, it has improved my game. Last week I happened to see your video, so .being an avid golfer and always looking for improvement like so many of us do. I thought I would spend time at the simulator with my driver. I have a little bit of a strong grip with my top hand maybe a bit stronger than you teach, but I do have my bottom hand over the top weakened.. Now for my test of your loose swing. It took a bit of time getting the wrists loose and not breaking down my arms. Finally I started to actually slow my swing down, or at least that was the feeling. The looseness of my wrists seemed to also help me get a better turn and felt like a longer swing and at least the same to a little faster ball speed. It took a little time to stop pushing the ball right, but I did straighten it out. Now for the results. Like I said I am a long hitter. From 150 I use my 46 degree pitching wedge. 190 yards I go to a 7 iron. Anyway I was working on my Driver, usually 250 is no problem with many at the 270 range. I have mostly gripped club on the tight side, So using your grip and loose wrists I was getting ball speeds at the 160+ range which on the simulator equated to many balls hitting the 300 mark. Now I haven't taken it to the course yet, that is tomorrow. I will let you know how it goes. I would love to work with you in person one day. I would like to be constantly be in the low 80s or 70s. This swing might just be the answer. By the way I will be 61 in March..
Well results of yesterdays round were quite amazing. First off let me say the round was basically practice and experimentation. My score of 93 didn't reflect how well the round went, and that my putting was off and missed no less than 5 short putts.. I took my driver out on more than the 3 or 4 times I usually do, because I wanted to get in some on course play with the new grip/swing.
So moving on. Taking any new swing thoughts and changes to the course can be challenging.. Throughout the round I was struggling with getting my grip to stay weaker than I usually do. I found I was pushing many shots right, the effect made me look to strengthen my grip. I was also working on ball position. All that said i was extremely happy with the results. My swing felt effortlessly and was easy on my body. Hitting my driver much more than usual was a conscious decision beginning the round. Hitting it on many par 4s where I usually would bring my 3 wood out on. On the very first hole, a par 5 458 dog leg right, I hit a shot that was the longest ball iI have ever hit on this hole. Like I said earlier I pushed it a little right. But it was long, I had 153 yards in, was on in two, drive was over 300. I 3 putted for a par SMH. On another hole where I pulled the drive out I hit a ball so far that we couldn't see it land over the top of a hill, when we got to the ball i was 84 yard to the middle of green, hole was 386 yards. On the last hole of the day I think I hit my best drive of the day. In to the wind with an uphill fairway, I hit one of the best balls I have ever hit a 294 yard drive that everyone in my group just said wow. Left me 100 yards in and I shot a bogey. SMH Overall I would say I picked up no less than 25 yards with my driver. Was not that comfortable with my ball position. Fell I need to just play more with the change and things will go well. That's how my round went. I am excited about this new swing and will work on it. after all this was only the first round with it.
I think the best part about his explanation is that it gets you thinking about your grip and how it relates to his example. Lots of players wanna move their feet too much or change swing planes etc. Its not that complicated. Start with trying his grip and see what happens first.
A good golf swing starts with a good grip
Still the best and clearest instruction I’ve seen on RUclips.
Thanks!!
I'm going to try this today as it appears I have this 'strong' grip and I am doing everything that Paul talks about in this video. The neutral grip feels weird (as he said it would) but I'm going to persevere with it as it makes sense to me as an 18 h'capper. I agree with Paul that the pros will probably get ultimate power from a strong grip but only through huge amounts of practice. And talent!
Tony Middlehurst yeah the neutral grip felt weird to me at first too but its only because the thumb isn't supported like it is on a strong grip so it almost feels like you have to swing a little harder to get the same club speed as the strong grip but the problem with a strong grip is it closes the club face slightly so if your club path isn't to the right your gunna hit a snap hook or a hook that starts at your target and goes left what we want is a club path that is going to the right with a club face slightly left or square and since your swinging out to the right your golf ball will start to the right and depending on the position of your club face open or closed will depend on the curve on the ball open goes higher lands softer closed go lower roll more so if you played the right ball for each shot you should be shooting low scores in no time! This guy could be right tho about the wrists not hinging on a strong grip and its really important that you hinge in the golf swing to get solid clean contact every time but honestly I havnt gotten into problems using a strong grip it only helps me curve the ball more if im trying to get a little more distance the more curve you have the more spin you have!
Thanks paul so much'' I used these tips on the course yesterday and I gotta say my game improved tremendously'''' I'm wrapped about it' felt effortless as well it worked for me thanks once again',
I agree with you, i have recently worked on my grip from a slightly strong to more neutral. I feel much more control over the clubhead. I feel much more relaxed in setup, with fewer compensations due to a strong grip. My tendencies were to adress the ball with a slightly forward shaft towards the target. That gave me a strong grip. Now my shaft is more right up and i can grip the club properly. Also, i can come down more in to out in my downswing. Yes it maybe contradicts what is usually taught with a strong grip. BUT! A strong grip leads to a closed face in wich the body reacts to with sliding to the target wich creates a more steep aoa. In some cases like mine leads to thin shots.
Maybe a strong grip works for some players. Just talking about my swing.
Hi Paul, what a difference that all makes. My overpowering right hand was killing my swing, and I was hooking everything left. I have now abandoned the interlocking grip, I found it was locking up my hands and forearms. I am using either the overlapping grip or the baseball grip at times. With 2/10 grip pressure, my wrists hinge freely, I hit a few wild ones t the start but my tempo is better, the shots are straighter, the ball hangs in the air longer, and its much more pleasurable. I've been whacking that golf ball with the right hand for years, now I can see that it just accompanies the swing and helps present the face correctly, that's all. In fact, it almost feel like I forget it's there. I can just feel a bit of pressure on the right forefinger trigger at impact, but that is a result and not an intention on my part, which makes all the difference!;
When I tried that interlocking grip my pinky was killing me. Just depends on the curvature of your fingers I guess. Glad you are doing the overlap and getting results.
To the non-believers - I just shot a +4 round on a legit course using Paul Wilson's FREE YT videos. I couldn't believe it my self, on the range I hit a bucket, took the same mental and physical result to the first tee and never looked back. Finished round without the back pain/strain I normally had prior to finding Paul teachings. I'm 62 and now excited to go golfing again. Watch, practice and enjoy the game. Thank You Paul. I'm so convinced I may head to LAS for a school date!
Wow, that's great. I love hearing it. Next round out you are going to think you are invincible. Just got out with no expectations. I you start hitting it thing, slicing it or topping it immediately slow down and loosen back up again. Just let me know if you can make to town.
This is true, you changed my game play because of this, my shot is always going to the right i dont know why, and i saw this video while searching why im always hit to the right. Thank you Paul.
Thank you Paul. I am about the same age of you, and your lesson works great for later learner and got tons of improvements.
Very good. Stick with it. I'll make you a star.
Brilliant tip Paul, neutral grip is the only show in town
Glad you liked it. Too many people are trying to put band aids on there swing looking for a quick fix. The thing is, you can still slice it with a strong grip so obviously a strong grip isn't the fix. Need a neutral grip and loose wrists. Just takes commitment and understanding. Glad you are sticking with it.
Not bad advice, but saying strong is totally wrong is just way off base. I am a high handicapper and have a strong grip but hit irons 20 yds further and consistently straighter with a strong grip that feels more natural to me. Took lessons and the first thing instructor tried to do was weaken my grip and all of a sudden couldn't hit the ball straight to save my life. Not saying a neutral grip is garbage, but there are alot of opinions, none of which are wrong if you can consistently hit the ball straight. Just my humble opinion.
I am brand new to golf (3 months) and definitely have a death grip on the club. I will being trying this technique after my back injury heals from the way i have been gripping the club. Wow!! I am shocked at the haters in the comments. Its as if Paul personally attacked your own golf swing! I believe if your searching out videos on your swing you clearly aren't hitting balls to perfection. Geez! People! give Paul a break. He's saying if your NOT hitting the ball straight, far, etc. here's where you might consider making a few adjustments. But your golf game is perfect right? That's why you wound up looking up golf tips.
I think what you say about the position of the hands is great, but I think what you call a neutral grip is what many others would actually call a strong grip with being able to see the first two knuckles of both hands.
I like the theory of a neutral grip and what you say makes complete sense. I have a strong 4 knuckle grip. On a good day I can break 80. On a bad day it will be high 90s. But it seems to me that the hinge swing with loose wrists requires perfect timing in every shot with absolutely no room for error. Still, I’m willing to give it a try!
So you need to master the neutral grip. ruclips.net/video/uRWI8Mhnsa8/видео.html and do this to unlock your wrists: ruclips.net/video/Xk7t9yHCO-I/видео.html Timing is a no brainer. Everyone seems to think this is a big deal when really it's so simple.
This is the EXACT explanation of my game. I either duck hook or a straight right push...and occasionally have a good round but rarely two in a row.
Right yet they keep telling everyone to do a strong grip. Stick with neutral. It will change your game forver.
Have been getting a callous on left forefinger and suspected it was due to over strong grip - this was exactly the confirmation I needed. Thanks from the Uk
Very good. Also when you put your right hand on give a little space then butt it down to the other hand. It needs its own room on the club.
The hook at 2:08 could come in handy. Your golf instruction is so well articulated, Thank you!
It sure can come in handy if needed, but you don't want a hook to come from nowhere and not know where its coming from. If you are hooking it then you have a grip problem.
Hi paul. Thanks for sharing your tips. I’m deaf so the subtitles helps. I’m from uk and been to Las Vegas five times so will look you up if possible for 1-2-1 lesson as I cannot use drivers. So using iron 1,3. Cheers
I'd argue that loose wrists and having to match that up every time is much more timing dependent than just having strong wrists.
I agree
Well your wrists are not wrists. They are a hinge. If a hinge hinges does it not rehinge if the hinge is loose 100% of the time? Yes. Timing is so simple. You don't see it as I am seeing it. Plus, there is only 1 widest arc. This is the length of your arms. If you did nothing to influence the club and you started with a square face arms extended how to you square the face? Answer: you stretch your arms out. Starting to see it? The problem with a strong grip is that you are not starting with the face square to the extended arms. Now that takes timing which is why people with a strong grip have to practice a lot. If you want to do that feel free.
I played with a neutral grip for the longest time and struggled to consistently make solid contact. My swing was much like what you teach and I would hit the ball pretty straight most of the time but tended to thin the ball or hit it off the toe. Both cost me a decent amount of distance loss. My miss tended to be a 15-20 yard fade. A friend of mine who plays with a stronger grip suggested I try a strong grip. He pointed out that most tour players including the best ball striker ever with a conventional swing (Ben Hogan) had a strong grip. I did A LOT of research online looking up photos and watching videos and, sure enough, they all had strong grips. The one standout who didn't use a strong grip was Jack Nicklaus. I decided to give it a shot along with focusing on keeping my right elbow tight to my body (ALA Ben Hogan) and simply turn my body. I found that I am hitting the ball much more solidly and consistently. I am not thinning it nor hitting off the toe. I have found that by keeping my elbow tight I am able to keep my hands ahead of the clubhead and have much better shaft lean at impact which is compressing the ball much better than my old swing. I have also noticed a marked increase in my ball distance. My total driver distance with the old swing was 260-270. Now I am averaging 290 and can get it over 300 3-4 times out of 10. I still feel like I have an effortless swing because I don't feel like I have to swing out of my shoes to get the distance I want and I am keeping my arms pretty relaxed. I personally think that there isn't one way (grip/swing) to play this great game. I think there are many ways to get to the same result and each of us has to find the way that works best for us as individuals.
The thin and toed shots were you coming out of it. Also, fading 15-20 yards. Your wrists were too tight. This would not allow the face to square plus you would have lost distance. I don't see Hogan with a strong grip at all. He may have when he had has his upright swing which is the cause of his hooking problem. In no way was it strong in the later years. Watch: ruclips.net/video/y8RwgK7h_OM/видео.html If his grip was strong he would have been shut at the top which he was actually open relative to the lead arm. Nicklaus, Snead, Tiger, Byron Nelson, Faldo, Watson, Player etc. etc. had neutral grips so there are a few more for your list. Unfortunately. I did not see your swing from before or now to see what you are doing and how weak or strong you actually think your grip is. Some people have a weak grip so people tell them to strengthen it. It feel strong compared to the weaker grip. I would suggest doing your new grip and putting an alignment stick on the ground after you set up. Let's see where you are actually aimed with the strong grip. If your grip is strong and your wrists are loose you will need another flaw in your swing to compensate for the strong grip.
Yeah Ben Hogan was fighting the big hook miss so he weakened his grip significantly and used a swing that would typically draw the ball with a neutral grip which created the classic Ben Hogan fade. A lot of ways to grip and swing a twig.
@@paulwilsongolf Anyone who describes Hogan's grip as strong cannot have looked at the pictures in Hogan's books, or just doesn't understand what he is looking at. Moe Norman (who had a strong grip) was at least as good a ball striker as Hogan, but he made extraordinary compensating moves, so it worked for him (and hit many hundreds of balls every day to hone those compensations).
I used to hit a hard draw /hook of the tee. Works well on right to left holes. Could not hit irons straight worth a nickel. Using a neutral right hand has worked wonders. Mr Wilson describes all the compensation we hookers made like aiming right, ball back in the stance. Bye bye to all that ! Thank you very much.
Very good. Glad you saw it and worked on it. Life will be a lot less frustrating now. These guys can keep saying I'm wrong all they want. I used to have a strong grip. They keep blabbing that this pro and that pro have strong grips. They obviously didn't watch the tip. How about Hogan, Nicklaus, Watson, Faldo, Tiger, Byron Nelson, Mike Austion, Mike Dunaway etc. etc. (all neutral grips). You are actually going to compare Azinger to Tiger? Really. You can do a strong grip all you want. I could care less. It means that you will have other compensations in your swing). You have compensations you need to practice (a lot). I would prefer hitting it dead straight and not being at the range all day. I've got tips to post!
I always go back to this lesson
For sure!!
Yikes Paul!…Cant believe all of the rough/hateful comments you’ve received…I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I for one really enjoy your free content and tips!…I was always a “Grip n rip guy” (swing hard and try to kill it , always struggled with the fade/slice). Now at 54 I’ve lost distance but have regained a lot back with a neutral grip and concentrating on loose grip and wrists + hitting the ball straighter than ever...So thank you!
Yes, these are people who do not listen. Glad you see it and did it. For you that don't want to do it I will explain it again:
You cannot have a strong grip and loose wrists. If so you will hook everything. To compensation for the hook, you will have another flaw. If so, you now have 2 flaws so you have to practice constantly. Most people have lives. Yes, there are pros who have a strong grip and flaws but they are pros. So if you want to hit 300-500 balls a day, then do a strong grip. I could care less. Me, I prefer to rarely practice.
Crazy game. The strong grip you’re speaking against works if you fire your hips on through the ball.
And the part where you mentioned a strong grip forces the timing of some other part of the swing to be perfect...maybe so...but with your weak grip, or weak/neutral grip, that little wrist flip youre teaching at impact, now THAT must be timed perfectly....which is impossible every swing.
While it can work, that neutral, boomer style just ain’t the way to do it.
Yeah so what average golfer have you seen that every turns their hips more than 15 degrees at impact. That is 90% of all golfers I have taught. Timing. I guess you have never seen me teach. Timing is a non issue for me to teach. Just got to know what to look for and how to teach it. You strong grippers can keep doing the strong grip all you want. I prefer hitting it straight and not having to practice.
Paul Wilson Golf Tomato tomato. Rewatching your grip vid I heard you mention something to the effect of it being geared towards higher handicappers. My mistake.
100%, I totally agree with your neutral grip lesson. That’s why you’re the pro, and I am Joe. Nothing but respect✊
Paul, I can’t agree with you on this point. I’ve found a strong grip really help me straighten my shots and introduce nice baby draws.
Whilst you might get a closed face at address position, if you achieve a good impact position with hands ahead of the ball, this automatically straightens up the face naturally.
When I want to fade the ball, I take a neutral grip and move the ball a little forward of centre. This works well but is a lot shorter than when I take my regular strong grip. Consequently I need 1 or 2 extra clubs when I fade it into the same distance.
I’m no pro, but I’ve got my handicap down from 18 to 12 in the last 2 months using a strong grip.
I want to get to single figures, so I’m keen to continue experimenting. From here I think it’s mostly about putting and chipping. Comments?
Cheers, Pete
But to hold the face square through impact you are locking your wrists. Also, I guarantee you are hitting pull hooks not baby draws. Line up and put an alignment stick at your toe line. You will see you are aimed right pull hooking it. So you have 3 flaws as I suggest in the video. One day standing on hole 15 ready to break 80 you are going to snap it out of bounds. You'll see. Let me know when you do. No one is telling you to fade it. I want the neutral grip and loose wrists powering the swing with your body not your arms.
I developed a bad hook, probably a combination of changing my grip to strong and pulling down with my hands first. I’m going to try the lesson in your video by first going back to a neutral grip.
If you are hooking it without trying to hook it you have a grip problem. I hope you fixed it.
Man! I have been doing it all wrong . I’ve watched 15 or so of your videos tonight .
I’m 29, hit my first golf ball in October . I learned from everyone in my group , and together we rarely do well except in a scramble .
Before tonight ,
I aim for right side tree line
Super strong grip .
Arms stiff as a board .
Wrists locked .
John Daly style grip it and rip it
Mostly hit a soft hook I refer to as a draw, but occasionally I hit a 90 degree right hander onto the next fairway lol.
I’m going to give your advice a shot !
Lesson here is ... never listen to your friends.
If I changed my swing or grip to show a point, I'd lose my swing for months! You are obviously very talented!
It takes a couple weeks of good work, but it can be changed in a few days also.
When I played there were times when I could hook like crazy even with a weak grip. Obviously something else was going on. I found that trying really hard to stay down was the best cure for me.
You may have thought you grip was weak but you were actually changing your grip to strong as you took it back. I did this years ago. With a neutral grip you wouldn't be able to hook and iron more than maybe 5 yards with irons and 10 -15 with driver without purposely rolling it over. I would do the neutral grip I teach then video your swing to see if you are moving it or not. ruclips.net/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/видео.html
Completely agree with neutral, the thing is, not every body's neutral position is the same, when a person stands up straight; count there visible knuckles on their TARGET hand (Left hand for a right handed player), if its 2, 3 or 4 knuckles, that THEIR neutral or natural hand position.
Excelente advice Paul, waiting to querentine ends to test this on range ... thx!
Best of luck!
Beautiful lesson...thank you so much...gr8 instruction, & easy to understand....FINALLY!
Glad it was helpful!
thanks paul this tip absolutely fixed my golf thanks heaps👍👍👍
Glad I could help.
That was excellently explained and extremely well articulated! Can't wait to try to adjust my swing! 👍
Great to hear!
I had a very strong grip! I've started to have a weak, neutral grip and I'm actually hitting the ball farther! I was hooking the ball so bad I almost quit the game! You're straight on point!
Glad you see it and are not doing a strong grip. As you see it is unnecessary. Neutral allows your wrist too be loose.
This explained what happened to me on the back nine perfectly, I tried to "slow down my swing" and be more natural and it went straight left off the tee every time. Any tips for making the transition feel more comfortable? Thank you!
Slowing down loosened your wrists so the strong grip got you hooking it. I prefer the neutral grip with super loose wrists. Once you get that you are firing the lower pretty hard and fast. You get comfortable by knowing exactly what you are trying to do then of course repeating it daily in practice swings then at the range. As you fire the lower and hit amazing shots you will get comfortable with it pretty quick. I have tons of lets and hips tip on the channel. Here are some:
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You're overlooking the fact that people have different sized hands. Smaller hands require a stronger left hand grip to properly hold in the palm. Right hand should generally be neutral regardless of hand size. So viewers should know mileage can vary. There is no one rule of golf. Stronger left hand grip works well for an average joe like me and also many star players like Rory Mcilroy.
Hand size and grip position are not related, you would want to vary the size of your grips. I have seen people with small hands go to ladies size grips and vice versa.
Do you use the same swing and grip when you chip the ball? I had a terrible bout of shanking my chips last year and applied your idea of swinging back with my shoulders and swinging through with my legs and it worked wonders!
Hi Paul , I'm 62 retired 5 years ago and have decided to learn to swing a club. After reviewing many of the swing styles out there , your approach seems to make the most sense . Plan to sign up for your digital course . Question I have concerning the grip is, I am ambidextrous . Left handed swing right and my left hand is my stronger hand. Is this situation covered in your course? thanks
Great to hear. It should make sense because I say it with the student in mind. I think what are you hearing as I say it. I used to think like that for about the first 10 years of teaching. I would also analyze the student as I said it. So I say things they way I do because they work. Thanks for your support. You don't need to do anything different with the grip. If anything you have an advantage because your bottom hand is not the strong hand. You will be able to balance them out without issue.
Yes you are on to something. I have a strong R hand and strong L hand. Draw it but too many times hooks it. Very frustrating. My wrist wants to be loose though. When I time it well I draw it nicely but too often I hook it or push it.
I will try from tomorrow to neutralize my grip.
Do you Stack & Tilt it or move to right leg? Do I lose some power from S & T? Thanks
Great Explanation! 👌
The grip is vital. Just follow my steps here: ruclips.net/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/видео.html I move to the right leg. Why on earth would I want to do a reverse pivot. Mind boggling they have people doing this.
@@paulwilsongolf Thanks, Reverse Pivot vs Stack and Tilt, isn't it some differences though. But ok I will check. Thanks
@@paulwilsongolf wow THANK YOU WERE RIGHT
great rond today
Neutral Grip
I've always had a strong grip and without even knowing its effect on the clubface, I've recently been trying to learn to draw the ball because I usually push it or push fade (what a surprise). My question Paul is if I switch to a neutral grip can I learn to draw the ball easier using the same draw techniques I've implemented because now the club face will be square?
Also could you explain why I've only been hitting severe hooks with driver and all my other clubs and irons are relatively straight or pushed? I am trying out the neutral grip the first time at the range tomorrow.
If you want to try to learn a perfect draw then you should have a slightly strong grip. I explain it in this tip: ruclips.net/video/UelTA7btZg8/видео.html Take a lot of consistent work to hit it perfectly. Seems like you have the path so the grip with looser wrists should get it to draw back. You might be hooking only the driver just due to it's length, how it feels, changing your grip jus before you take it back etc. There could be any number of reasons but the severe hook is telling you that the grip is too strong. I would think just before you take it back you change the grip to strong which shuts the face. I would video it. I used to do this so I know all about it. Watch your takeaway and see if your grip moves just as you take the club back. I would learn the neutral grip and work on loose wrists. You can do that here:
Learn the neutral grip too here:
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Wrist Release Drills
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@@paulwilsongolf Thanks so much for the time responding! I'm new to the channel but here to stay
Thanks for the vid. Tried out a neutral grip and started hitting some longer straighter shots. Just wondering what are the benefits of using a strong grip since so many pros are using it?
I agree completely. I tried for years to make a strong grip work reliably and always failed. It wasn’t until I went to a neutral grip and relaxed wrists that I gained any degree of consistency and reliability.
Fantastic lesson Paul. Thank you !
Glad you liked it! Thanks.
Just saw your video on grip and hooks, this explains a lot with my game, thanks.
Glad it helped!
With a weak to neutral grip, in order to 'hinge' the wrists, the left wrist will be cupped - creating an overly open face. Otherwise, the wrists aren't hinging at (wrist extension and flexion) but performing ulnar and radial deviation, which is done minimally and essentially locks the wrists.
Wrong. ruclips.net/video/uRWI8Mhnsa8/видео.html
@@paulwilsongolf There is nothing wrong about what I said. I prefer a slightly cupped wrist as it's a bio-mechanically correct position for the wrist/hand to be in when grasping an object.
@@paulwilsongolf Also, per your link, at 3:53 when you demonstrate hinging your wrists, your club face is absolutely open. In order the "hinge" the wrists in the golf swing, which is actually wrist extension, the ulna must rotate slightly clockwise, which opens the club face. You did it without even realizing it. For reference, I am an occupational therapist. If you want to argue about this, I'll be more than happy to.
I am not even doing a swing at that point in the video. The left wrist wound slightly cupped due to the 2 knuckle grip position creating an angle in the lead wrist. ruclips.net/video/uRWI8Mhnsa8/видео.html
best golf video ever
Thanks.
As a 65 yr old strong grip (bottom hand only) guy who still hits the ball 275 off the tee, I can tell you nobody wants a good grip better than me. About 60-70% of my tee shots are OK, but the rest I tend to pull. However, mentally when I correct my grip, I feel the clubhead is out of position at the top of my swing, and it messes me up. It feels completely wrong.
Maybe 200 balls at the range with the right grip would help. Worth a try I guess.
If you are not practicing many many hours per week, then you need to have a neutral grip.
Many thanks Paul. Since I've weakened my grip = better control + more distance!!
Very good. Now sure why people doubt this. I would want to learn the right fundamentals.
this is very convincing, and well presented.. relaxed, just as the arms and wrists should be..
Thank you for watching!!
Hi Paul, I've been struggling with a slice for years. Tried the stronger grip a few weeks ago and although I hit it much straighter I was losing a full club in distance. So at the range today I tired this neutral grip. I hit it straight and got my distance back. I went back and forth between the two grips and the neutral grip works for me. Cheers
Very good. Not sure how many amazing comments I need before everyone at least tries it. Hope they do. You too are proof this is the grip everyone needs to be doing.
Having a great season with the bodyswing Paul. First ever comp yesterday and hit net par :) Nice straight iron play. Awful on the greens so could have been great, but feeling good off the fairway.
Very good. I love hearing it and i hope others read this. It works. Sounds like it is time to work on the short game.
I lock the pinky finger of my right hand to the index finger of my left hand in my grip. Can I still do this with the grip you teach? I love your videos by the way. I'm eager to try out your methods. 95% of the time I can hit my irons straight but my driver is a slice machine. Keep up the great videos.
Really good video and a good way of brief useful explanation
Glad you liked it!
Great video, makes a lot of sense.
Glad it was helpful!
As long as someone else is successfully able to use it, including pros, you can never say it’s wrong. You can probably say it’s hard. But to say it’s wrong is wrong. If you can’t hit it right, it doesn’t mean it’s wrong. It’s just not the right grip for you. An experienced and knowledgeable coach/trainer would say so.
Alot of pros use it, so tell me how they got to that position by doing so.
It’s called a grip for a reason. If it wasn’t something you could use, it wouldn’t be called a grip in the first place.
All grips, be it neutral, weak, or strong are good for different types of players depending on their capabilities. You may be the first person I know saying a grip to be wrong. Quite odd for a coach/trainer/player.
Like many others you did not hear what I said in the tip. If you have a strong grip and loose wrists you will hook every shot. Just try it. ONce you do you now need to do something to hit it on target. So you add another flaw/compensation. Now you have timing of the 2 flaws and compensations. This means you have to practice. A lot. How do I know this? I used to draw it. If you want to do a strong grip and practice a lot as well as scratching your head why you lose it left go right ahead. For me, I would rather rarely practice and hit 80% fairways. Have fun.
Thanks Paul--much needed advice for my inconsistent game
Thanks for watching
Thanks Paul. I injured my Left Thumb ligament (Skier's Thump). My days of placing my Left Thump down the Grip are over. I have developed a grip where I wrap my Left Thumb around the grip (like a TRUE BASEBALL GRIP). It work's and the pain is avoided BUT I have the Mother of all Hooks! Can you advise as to how I can implement the neutral grip with the Left Thump so positioned? Appreciation in advance!
Well that's fine with the left hand but your right is strong too is you are hooking it without trying too hook it. Follow my grip here the best you can: ruclips.net/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/видео.html
That was very helpful! Thanks so much, Paul.
Very welcome!
This is gold. Thank you very very much.
You're very welcome!
Nice video. Would this help with a shank?? Never shanked before but started this week and can't seem to stop.. it's terrifying! Any tips? Thanks.
Thanks Paul. Awesome lesson
I laughed while watching the grip video - this is EXACTLY me. Constantly left or right with a strong grip and loose wrists. I'm taking some lessons to improve my grip and swing.
me too lol
That's great. Just start with the grip. Keep it neutral and you will never look back.
Great tip and I just might buy your book now. I wish all instructors would teach long is wrong because of all the slow play in the game now.
Glad you liked it. Thanks. Yes, it is kind of slow out there nowadays. Remember when you didn't even have to book tee times. Those were the days. Just come out and play.
i use neutral grip for irons and slightly strong for fairway woods and stronger grip for driver. But hit driver off big toe or mid-lead foot and they tend to go straight.
Tend to go straight? What percentages of fairways is that? If you are 70% or more then keep doing it. If not do the neutral grip.