How the ‘sharing economy’ disrupts civilization | Ed Ericson Jr. | TEDxBaltimore

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • How the ‘sharing economy’ disrupts civilization - Ed challenges the foundation of the so-called sharing economy.
    Ed is a staff writer at the Baltimore City Paper. In 2012 his received 1st Place for Economic Inequality Reporting from the Association of Alternative Newsmedia.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

Комментарии • 72

  • @asyavaughan702
    @asyavaughan702 9 лет назад +2

    'Civilization' is an extremely emotive word which you have not defined. If it means a system based on consumerism, where the masses work like drones for the benefit of a few multi national companies then I say 'let's disrupt it! If it means supporting a system based on economic growth at the cost of our environment and the very existence of the planet ...yes, let's disrupt!

  • @VTheC
    @VTheC 9 лет назад +3

    Brilliant.

  • @rogers3389
    @rogers3389 6 лет назад +7

    Another model that involves money. "Sharing economy" can be another exploitative economy to their volunteers, or workers. Many workers have to work several jobs in this economy to make enough to survive.
    Not relying on your tax money, money from government funded charity organization and money donation from people is the real sustainable movement: unlike some of these models under "sharing economy" that rent something in exchange for your money is just another profitable form of capitalism in disguise. Do some research on who they took from to start their company.

  • @nathansmith3244
    @nathansmith3244 7 лет назад +5

    Look up Jacque Fresco

  • @shaneskull820
    @shaneskull820 9 лет назад +5

    Good counter-points to the sharing economy although like the industry he works for has witnessed first-hand, wishful thinking and nostalgia will not change reality. The sharing economy is essentially optimally efficient capitalism and a prime example of the need for a counter-balance social system. Something like universal basic income may be needed as the foundation to a future super-efficient capitalistic society.

    • @VTheC
      @VTheC 9 лет назад +3

      Shawn Runewell The share economy arose from the ruling class destroying the good economy. Is the future to be everyone sharing cars, sharing rooms in houses?

    • @ajcics
      @ajcics 7 лет назад

      Shawn Runewell No to basic income. Just because you are here and breathing does not entitle one to anything. It goes against capitalism at it's very core.

  • @muaythaiguy6669
    @muaythaiguy6669 8 лет назад +7

    The shadow economy - this is what happens when people realize that there aren't enough jobs to go around.

    • @ajcics
      @ajcics 7 лет назад

      muaythaiguy6669 There are. There exists a huge skill gap in industries like software development. Only 26% of US high school seniors are proficient in math...that's pathetic. Who is going to bitch about there not being enough jobs? The snowflake that majored in Russian Poetry or the guy who can write JavaScript, CSS, and HTML?

    • @IcelanderUSer
      @IcelanderUSer 5 лет назад

      Ashton Christopher Like the snowflake who shot up a mall or Walmart? You types are so emotional you have to kill people. Or like the snowflakes who actually create the programmer jobs. In California. You’re so full of delusional assumptions and emotional inadequacies that you’ve created an enemy in your mind that causes all your anguish. Instead of looking in the mirror you think democrats are the problem. Democrats didn’t cause the numbers of illegals coming here to skyrocket. Trump did. Nor did dems create trillion dollar wars and trillion dollar tax cuts. Blocking coders from coming here means those people now pay taxes in another country. Don’t contribute to wealth creation here.

    • @olstar18
      @olstar18 4 года назад

      @@IcelanderUSer Actually you are the one making assumptions here. He never said anything about democrats. You did. He pointed out the number of high school students who aren't even proficient in math and you bring up trump. How about instead of blaming any lack of foreign coders coming in you start looking at the failure or our schools to help students get into fields that we actually need people trained for.

  • @ThinkPIONEERing
    @ThinkPIONEERing 8 лет назад +3

    To anyone who's okay with the gig economy (and this is not to say that I support or despise the gig economy), answer me this, are you working within the gig economy or are you on the administrative side of it helping to pull the strings (that is if you're not pulling the strings yourself)? Maybe you can help the rest of us see the big picture. I'm sure one of you is willing to answer, now don't everybody answer at once.

  • @nathansmith3244
    @nathansmith3244 7 лет назад +2

    SOLVE IT> cause we want to eliminate all money.

  • @EnricoPorceddu
    @EnricoPorceddu 9 лет назад +2

    If everybody is becoming a taxi driver nobody will be able to live from that work.... isn't it the same going on with the real taxi industry? The phenomenon to which you refer is called disintermediation. Disintermediation takes place when there is no margin for intermediators to get a piece of the cake. Uber is minimizing intermediation costs since the taxi industry failed to do so!Then what about 7 hours working days? What about living from different activities? Our world would be much more flexible and efficient. Wouldn't it?

  • @jagger01983
    @jagger01983 9 лет назад

    I find it interesting

  • @dragonsigh2
    @dragonsigh2 8 лет назад +3

    The best slaves are the ones that don't know they are a slave, the sharing economy does go against the idea of having to work for the right to live. If there is a need for transport why do we need regulations to limit the amount of people engaging in filling that need? I see the speaker point of view being stuck in the current system and his idea of the future is just keeping things the way they are.

    • @IcelanderUSer
      @IcelanderUSer 5 лет назад

      Limiting the number of medallions was done on purpose. To create solid middle class jobs. They could control how safe the cars are. Make sure the drivers follow the rules. Allowing unlimited numbers of people to drive will only lead to many people making pocket change. Medallions have dropped in value from 1 million dollars to 250k. While Uber owners have become millionaires.

  • @wastelesslearning1245
    @wastelesslearning1245 4 года назад +2

    In Summery:
    apps for freelancers are no bueno because of early business models have low accountability and bad pay. What about fixing the business mottle with legal standards? Na they are all bad and it’s impossible to make them better or secure job benefits! Oh and Der Going to take er jobs and having to pay taxes for helping your neighbors is the future XD watch out for that “Shadow Economy”!

  • @ChrisPollitt
    @ChrisPollitt 9 лет назад +3

    He makes some valid points. While the old system is certainly flawed, the new system has its own flaws. What is the best way forward?

    • @VTheC
      @VTheC 9 лет назад +1

      Chris Pollitt One way is backwards essentially.

  • @lchris33
    @lchris33 9 лет назад +5

    Disrupting civilization is not always a bad thing. There are pros and cons to the share economy, but it has opened up many new possibilities. The old economy, based on secure 9-5 jobs is part of fading era, like it or not.

    • @VTheC
      @VTheC 9 лет назад +2

      LarryC The share economy arose from the ruling class destroying the good economy. Is the future to be everyone sharing cars, sharing rooms in houses? - Like poor parts of Zimbabwe.

    • @jasonkelley9072
      @jasonkelley9072 9 лет назад

      V TheC idk but if the sharing economy is just taxi drivers under a new name i dont think its that bad

  • @MusicAusUS
    @MusicAusUS 8 лет назад

    big companies are outsourcing and using tax loop holes. we need to survive and be happy and prosperous.

  • @lindarobinson2104
    @lindarobinson2104 6 лет назад +2

    I've been laid off 8 times. How is a job better then being an entrepreneur?
    Employees pay higher taxes. Entrepreneurs make out better at tax time because they can write off more. This guy is a dreamkiller.

    • @olstar18
      @olstar18 4 года назад

      You obviously aren't an entrepreneur.

    • @wastelesslearning1245
      @wastelesslearning1245 4 года назад

      Satire: Apps for freelancers are no bueno because of early business models have low accountability and bad pay. What about fixing the business mottle with legal standards? Na they are all bad and it’s impossible to make them better or secure job benefits! Oh and Der Going to take er jobs and having to pay taxes for helping your neighbors is the future XD watch out for that “Shadow Economy”!

  • @MrMichaeledavis83
    @MrMichaeledavis83 5 лет назад +1

    So, what’s his point?

    • @wastelesslearning1245
      @wastelesslearning1245 4 года назад

      Michael Davis apps for freelancers are no bueno because of early business models have low accountability and bad pay. What about fixing the business mottle with legal standards? Na they are all bad and it’s impossible to make them better or secure job benefits! Oh and Der Going to take er jobs and having to pay taxes for helping your neighbors is the future XD watch out for that “Shadow Economy”!

  • @giusipiecha9096
    @giusipiecha9096 8 лет назад

    i would need so many taxis if will need to be on different places every hour

  • @dienekes4364
    @dienekes4364 6 лет назад +6

    I think Ed is missing the bigger picture, WHY this sharing economy is becoming popular. It's all about capitalism, it's all about the massive transfer of wealth from the workers to the capitalists.
    Ed explicitly gives a wonderful example of why capitalism is eating itself with the story about the taxi industry. Why do we have Lyft and Uber? Because the taxi industry is so corrupt and the workers are treated so poorly. Who are we going to blame for that? Well, the people that go into direct competition with that corrupt industry, of course.
    When people are stuck at dead-end jobs, trading their lives for the smallest pittance that their coprorate masters can get away with while the corporate overlords just get fatter decide enough is enough and try to make money in a more creative, palatable way, who should we blame? Obviously not the oppressive rich, but the people who want more out of life. How dare they strive for more fulfillment! They should just shut up, plug in and mindlessly work as a cog in the machine!

  • @juansebastianwongmejia1876
    @juansebastianwongmejia1876 9 лет назад

    I need to listen in spanish :(

  • @asavagetraxx
    @asavagetraxx 9 лет назад +2

    Great work Ed ! Well done.

    • @anthonyleonard
      @anthonyleonard 9 лет назад +3

      I agree. Ed provides a completely different point of view of the “sharing economy” than what I’m accustomed to seeing. I’m curious on what Ed’s thoughts are on Google’s upcoming self-driving cars that promise to completely replace human taxi drivers.

  • @Weeki5
    @Weeki5 7 лет назад +4

    The answer here is simple. The market will decide. If the author's ideas are correct that sharing economy service providers are put in a terrible position, then what will happen? They will stop providing the service and the sharing economy (at least in that sector) will end or dramatically diminish. And then what will happen when consumers want more rides than can be provided--that they're willing to pay for? Other business ventures will rise up to meet that need. That's what an economy does.
    The speaker talks like the Uber/Lyft ideas are the end of all innovation in the ride giving market, which is ridiculous. Maybe 50 years from now, there will be no such thing as 40 hour a week jobs and everyone will work a couple part time jobs to make ends meet. Or maybe I'm completely wrong. But the speaker appears stuck in 1970 and seems to believe that that's the only "right" way to do things. He sounds like the kind of guy who would decry innovation because it causes people working in obsolete product industries to lose jobs.
    This was the poorest TED talk I've ever seen.

  • @giovannimampfino
    @giovannimampfino 8 лет назад

    This tooth looks cool ... I guess the "tooth" would accuse me of "Evil Objectivism", if I argued, that the Shadow Economy is a simple effect of the "Costs of Civilisation" being to high, specially, when you see, what is done with your contribution, by people, who define and tell you, that paying and working for them, is what it means to be civilised. Sounds like a cult to me, but also reminds me of Kandi in Sri Lanka, with its "Temple of the Tooth".

  • @juneninth
    @juneninth 7 лет назад +1

    Probably one of the worst TEDtalks I've ever saw- I completely missed the defining point. Simply economic- supply and demand.

  • @Jugganaut05
    @Jugganaut05 4 года назад +3

    Ok boomer.

  • @howardjohnson1148
    @howardjohnson1148 9 лет назад +2

    Five minutes in and already I don't like this guy. He and the big corporations are scared of the sharing economy. It's here to stay and it'll just advance more and more. There would be no sharing economy if you guys hadn't got so greedy and wrecked the past economy years ago.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 8 лет назад +5

      But he's right, how are you going to make a living if you can't specialize? Specialization is the foundation of society. The stability it offers is the main draw over hunter/gatherer societies. It is what has pushed innovation. Farmers grow the extra food you need to do things other than farm, they don't taxi you around. Inventors don't rent out their homes, they observe&think. If nothing else, this is an argument for a better mass-transit system, increased minimum wage, and to close tax loopholes. If you paid any attention, he didn't paint the taxi companies out to be decent either, dumbass. He didn't claim to be friendly or to support what they did. He did say that the "sharing" economy puts 100% of the risk on the producer/worker, so the management can stay small and market share growth no longer relates to increasing high paying jobs, or more profit sharing with the ones actually offering The servicem, consolidating wealth and profits more than ever before and screwing The workers. The sharing economy will only decrease wages and quality standards until you are forced to revolt or die. The absolute most desperate people are shouldn't be the ones setting the wages for everyone (who isn't in managment/coding the app). You're so thick it's unbelievable!

  • @MsLia32
    @MsLia32 6 лет назад

    try to exploit it ... make a buck
    That right there is your problem.
    America really needs a lesson on the essence of money.
    hint: that is NOT how you exploit the sharing economy.

  • @benangel3268
    @benangel3268 8 лет назад +2

    That´s the saddest l´ve heard, that somebody has to argue against the case for sharing. Either we are a mistaken species, or we are being misguided down the wrong path.
    How about taking a constructive look at these alternative systems. Then look for the solutions that help to overcome the problems.

    • @danielrrikardo
      @danielrrikardo 7 лет назад +2

      Ben Angel It's not sharing if you have to pay a fee for it...

    • @johnservellon2346
      @johnservellon2346 7 лет назад +1

      Ben Angel I agree with you, if I have a sandwich and I offer you half, that's sharing. but if I charge you for that half, that's. commerce

  • @JeffBrown518
    @JeffBrown518 8 лет назад +4

    You make some important points but it's obscured by your snarky, negative and judgmental attitude about people who are involved in the sharing economy. Right from the start, I sense that you "othered" them; you even use phrases like, "those people." My experience is that whenever we develop enemy images of other people, we reduce our own influence and irritate people. If you have passionate opinions about this new way of doing business, then express them; just do it without implying that people are bad, wrong or evil.

    • @IcelanderUSer
      @IcelanderUSer 5 лет назад

      Those people are other. They are an enemy attacking a way of life that is worth preserving. Their idea of the future is very much a dog eat dog world of private security and private jets. They don’t care about the billions of people who will be left fighting for scraps.

  • @imya666
    @imya666 6 лет назад +1

    BLA_bla_bla... do not spend your time for this video!

  • @nanayaa7795
    @nanayaa7795 3 года назад

    this man seems extremely privileged