That will make it a lot nicer for the owner. It's been awhile since I drove a first gen Mustang. I'm 6'2" 200 pounds, and I fit with the seat all the way back, but it's a little snug. I remember thinking that it would be nice to have a little more room. Back when I was still building race cars I didn't have a metal break, so for small pieces that needed bent I made my own very cheap hillbilly version... I cut two pieces of 2x4 about 3 feet long, stacked them together and drilled a couple holes on each end of the boards so I could put a long bolt all the way through both 2x4's. Before I bolted them together I put a thin washer between the boards where each bolt went through and then tightened them down. That way it left a very thin gap between the two boards so I could slip the piece of sheet metal or aluminum in between them and bend them. I tightened the bottom 2x4 in a vice so it wouldn't move around... I picked boards that had the squarest edges so the bends would be sharper, but if you wanted bends that were more radiused you can take a sander and round off the edges of the board. Amazingly most of the pieces that I bent this way came out looking pretty good.
Great attention to details Kiwi, I'm sure that fellow being tall will really appreciate you going to all that trouble to make it comfortable for him to drive.
if you use 67 cougar seat bases they are already shorter. That combined with seat rail extensions would give you the same result. Andy Kruse has a great video on the extensions. Excellent metal work as always.
As I mentioned the Cougar bases are only 1/2" shorter, we've dropped them 1 1/2" The seat rail extensions give you an extra 2" in leg room ( we got 2 1/2") and raise the seat 3/8" costing you most of what you gained swapping in the Cougar seat bases. And the they cost $150. I feel like this was the best solution for my customer. Thanks for the input and watching👍
Happy Halloween Sir . Loved the saying ..no free lunches . You're are a credit to your craft . Picking up your habit of more attention to detail . Best wishes to you and all your loved ones .
I have ridden in the back of both a 66 and 70. Both cars had the tyres scrape the guards big time. Both cars had larger wheels though not huge, It is not overly comfortable but I can do it. For the Aussies and Kiwis try riding in the middle of the back seat on an LC GTR Torana, feels like the diff is going to hit you in the bun. Bloody terrible. For some reason LJs are a bit better and that was an XU1
nice work! also 69 / 70 mustang bases are an inch lower if that is all that is needed in height. i ended up buying those and doing some slight modifications to get another 3/8".
If the owner is open to it, you can swap out the regular headliner for a 1 piece rigid headliner and that would give him another 1-2 inches of head clearance. Both Mustangs to Fear and TMI make their own version. MTF seem to have the better reviews. That's what I bought from my 65 coupe, we've painted it but haven't installed so I can't vouch for it yet.
Kiwi, how do you seal up those holes in the floor after you bolt the seat runners in? The original holes were in a flat part of the floor panel, so I assume there's a rubber plug - but would that seal as well if the hole is in a part of the floor that has strengthening ridges stamped into it? Or do you flatten the floor out around the holes before you weld in the seat base?
Could you fabricate new seat bottom bracket hardware to lower and extend them back further instead of having to move the pans, etc? I'm guessing no but it would seem somehow easier to do. I'm obviously never gonna ride in THAT back seat anyway...
Would you have to cut the chair bolts down so they are not sticking out the floor panel? So anybody who drives it and is not 6 ft 5 will have to pull the seat far up!
Could of welded 4 short bolts under the pan and forget about making 4 new access holes. Just my 2 cents..its raining outside kiwi not inside. Get to work. Hey kiwi remind viewers about your live chat on Tuesday..
Yeah I would have put studs on the bottom if you're going all that way to do all that work. How much harder would it be to put eight new studs on two seat? Bottoms would have been a lot easier than drilling holes. Now you got four holes you got to cover up so the crap don't get inside of them. A lot of work 👍👍🙂🇨🇦
Compliments to the camera operator! He gets everything in the shot and is rock steady holding the camera!
That will make it a lot nicer for the owner. It's been awhile since I drove a first gen Mustang.
I'm 6'2" 200 pounds, and I fit with the seat all the way back, but it's a little snug.
I remember thinking that it would be nice to have a little more room.
Back when I was still building race cars I didn't have a metal break, so for small pieces that
needed bent I made my own very cheap hillbilly version...
I cut two pieces of 2x4 about 3 feet long, stacked them together and drilled a couple holes
on each end of the boards so I could put a long bolt all the way through both 2x4's.
Before I bolted them together I put a thin washer between the boards where each
bolt went through and then tightened them down. That way it left a very thin gap between the
two boards so I could slip the piece of sheet metal or aluminum in between them and bend them.
I tightened the bottom 2x4 in a vice so it wouldn't move around...
I picked boards that had the squarest edges so the bends would be sharper, but if you wanted
bends that were more radiused you can take a sander and round off the edges of the board.
Amazingly most of the pieces that I bent this way came out looking pretty good.
Great attention to details Kiwi, I'm sure that fellow being tall will really appreciate you going to all that trouble to make it comfortable for him to drive.
if you use 67 cougar seat bases they are already shorter. That combined with seat rail extensions would give you the same result. Andy Kruse has a great video on the extensions. Excellent metal work as always.
@@PapaVrooom kinda late now. LoL
As I mentioned the Cougar bases are only 1/2" shorter, we've dropped them 1 1/2" The seat rail extensions give you an extra 2" in leg room ( we got 2 1/2") and raise the seat 3/8" costing you most of what you gained swapping in the Cougar seat bases. And the they cost $150. I feel like this was the best solution for my customer. Thanks for the input and watching👍
Outstanding 🙆♂️ structural engineering solution , Kiwi !!
Especially for taller people
Thanks man and thanks for watching!!
Kiwi makes some of the best classic car body and chassis repair and customization videos period!
Cheers Kiwi 🏁
Thanks man, glad you enjoy them 😎👍
6' 5" ? He might have to get his legs chopped and channeled! 😆 As always Kiwi, incredible work!
Impressive callouses, Kiwi. That bench would have looked like a murder scene with my girly hands!
🤣😂🤣. Yeah Mrs Kiwi isn't a huge fan of my leathery hands 😬
Sensible solution Chris, and very neatly done.
Thanks man, it made sense to me!😎👍
i agree , Kiwi has the knowledge and the courage to go where few fear to tread . RustyFord Land
Expertise demonstrated. Great understanding of the system you are changing and knowledge about the design and the loads transferred through the car.
Thanks man, when you've worked on as many as I have you can't help but get to know them 😎👍
Great work Kiwi, lots of angles to consider. At 6’5””, I always appreciate these kinds of mods!!
Thanks man!! The customer is happy😎👍
Happy Halloween Sir . Loved the saying ..no free lunches . You're are a credit to your craft . Picking up your habit of more attention to detail . Best wishes to you and all your loved ones .
Great job. On a convertible being eye level with the top of the windshield frame is difficult. Thanks for the tip
Thanks man and thanks for watching!!
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Simple old school the way to go NICE😊
Thanks man and thanks for watching!!
That ability to go to hyperfabspeed at will must save a ton of shop time. 🙂
- Ed on the Ridge
Good job Kiwi, alot of work there.
I'm thinking it'll be easier to get in & out of the car as well...good Video
If only! The older we get, the lower the seat, the harder it is to get out.
Nice job.
Thanks man and thanks for watching!!
And for our next trick, how to get a 6'+ into the back seat 😂
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Cheers mate
I have ridden in the back of both a 66 and 70. Both cars had the tyres scrape the guards big time. Both cars had larger wheels though not huge, It is not overly comfortable but I can do it. For the Aussies and Kiwis try riding in the middle of the back seat on an LC GTR Torana, feels like the diff is going to hit you in the bun. Bloody terrible. For some reason LJs are a bit better and that was an XU1
nice work! also 69 / 70 mustang bases are an inch lower if that is all that is needed in height. i ended up buying those and doing some slight modifications to get another 3/8".
My guy already had the stock ones so we just chopped those up😁👍👍 Good tip though!!
Another good idea from the big K,the boys back in Auckland would have a bale of hay on there and then squash it down for the tail blokes.
😂🤣oh good grief I can see it now😎👍
Mr. B. Here ! 🍩☕️👀😎👍. Nice job Kiwi 👀😎👍 very informative !
Great video kiwi! Sheet metal work is tedious and takes time. Each project has it's own challenges for sure.. Thanks for sharing👍👍👍👍👍
If the owner is open to it, you can swap out the regular headliner for a 1 piece rigid headliner and that would give him another 1-2 inches of head clearance. Both Mustangs to Fear and TMI make their own version. MTF seem to have the better reviews. That's what I bought from my 65 coupe, we've painted it but haven't installed so I can't vouch for it yet.
Nice custom touch! However, you'll have to wear your platform shoes on the test drive....to reach the falcon pedals! 😂
Nah!!! I'll just have to slide the seat forward for a change 😁😎👍
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Always enjoy your content. at 6' 2" it is an issue.
Thanks man, hope it helps!!
Kiwi, how do you seal up those holes in the floor after you bolt the seat runners in? The original holes were in a flat part of the floor panel, so I assume there's a rubber plug - but would that seal as well if the hole is in a part of the floor that has strengthening ridges stamped into it? Or do you flatten the floor out around the holes before you weld in the seat base?
Could you fabricate new seat bottom bracket hardware to lower and extend them back further instead of having to move the pans, etc? I'm guessing no but it would seem somehow easier to do. I'm obviously never gonna ride in THAT back seat anyway...
No, there's no room to lower them. There are set track extenders you can buy the will get you another 2" back but they raise the seat 3/8".
I never did have a 65/66 but did have a 69 and a 70. I’m 6’3” and it was not an issue. Ford must have fixed it.
I hope you have someone who can make custom carpet for you, replacement molded carpet will not fit with that modification.
It's a custom car, it will probably have a custom trans tunnel too so it will be making a trip to the upholstery shop 👍
Im here to find out how to get more leg and head.
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🤣😂. That's funny. If I had the answer to that I'd be a wealthy man😎👍
I think we all know the answer to that is to have lots of $$$
Even less room for passenger in rear seat. Can you use the round metal cut with the hole saw to use as plugs for the original holes?
That's true but riding in the back of a mustang FB was really only ever for the 5 foot and under brigade anyway....😎👍
@ I see your point.
With all the plug welding you do would a portable spot welder help? Don't seem to be to expensive, I see the Car S O S body team uses one.
I thought I was average height until I sat in a old 60s Mini. Those cars are tiny compared to the Mustang
Could the convertible braces be used under the car, and do they match up with the seat base?
Would you have to cut the chair bolts down so they are not sticking out the floor panel? So anybody who drives it and is not 6 ft 5 will have to pull the seat far up!
Beauy!
Thanks man glad you enjoyed it !!
He sounds like Ray Shoesmith.
What does that do to the carpet?
It will need custom carpets.
Could of welded 4 short bolts under the pan and forget about making 4 new access holes. Just my 2 cents..its raining outside kiwi not inside. Get to work. Hey kiwi remind viewers about your live chat on Tuesday..
The mustang seat runners have studs on underside so you have to get nuts on to them from underneath, hence the access holes 😁👍
Yeah I would have put studs on the bottom if you're going all that way to do all that work. How much harder would it be to put eight new studs on two seat? Bottoms would have been a lot easier than drilling holes. Now you got four holes you got to cover up so the crap don't get inside of them. A lot of work 👍👍🙂🇨🇦
I'm missing something here .... the original seat runners have studs in them, I'm not sure how adding 8 new ones would change anything ??
The 4 access holes have rubber body plugs pushed into them once you install the seat with 4 nuts onto the factory studs
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 kiwi the new metal pieces you welded on is where I would of put the studs to support the seats..get it now
Trade it for a second or third gen Baracuda.
Well that would work too!! 😁😉
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Easy fix. Get a Challenger 😎
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Or a Ford Galaxie 😊
If your to tall for a mustang bye a proper car posibly a comaro or some other gm product😂😂😂
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A little here and a little there😁😎👍