@@swcentral so us vets comming back from like 2013 looks like the game hasnt changed at all still money hungry and no reason to come back yea? thats all i heard in this video of yours -.-
@@AdmiralHellShot Quality has dipped drastically since then yes, in terms of game health and updates. You can return and have plenty to do and enjoy. Just keep your expectations in check. If you have not played since 2013, then you have a lot to catch up on before you start to encounter the issues raised in this video. I would never tell someone not to play, the game is still very fun for anyone who has not yet experienced it. My videos and opinions come from the perspective of being a veteran player who never left and saw everything unfold. When quality increases or a good update comes in, I’ll be sure to let you know just the same as I did with the opposite :) Hope this helps.
its also probally the most costly thing in the game, and aim sick of people suggesting that they simply use ai i voice cloning the actors isnt a solution, as many of the cast not only appose the tech, and wouldnt agree to it even if the training data was done ethically (which knowing ai voice cloningit wont be), so the only avenue would be to recast them, or keep going to more silent protagonist annd alien jibbrish if they cant afford to keep the big named talent. a live service isnt susttainable sadly, eventually the game has to come to an end and i dont think broadword, biowarer, or ea ever had an inkling of concern about media preservation,, so its likely we wont get a city of heroes situation, and its likely the game will just vanish like so many mmos of the recent years
My only wish for SWTOR is that it goes out with a bang. One last expansion. Something that can boost player counts up and make the game be remembered fondly. I know that this is basically impossible but one could still hope.
Let's just hope that it will voice acted this time. That's one of the main reasons to play this game, the roleplay. And now if we could one more claim true power like at the end of the Eternal Throne, it would give the feeling that I waited at least to make my characters powerful again.
@@gman99999 I really hope so too! Honestly, as soon as I got into the first few cutscenes I thought the audio was “bugged” … If they continue to release content that is non-voice acted & half assed I will quit SWTOR, with a heavy heart, but at what point does enough become enough.
I couldn't really care less if it was voice acted or not, as long as the story itself is decent. (And they stop shoving us into forced daily zones between missions)
@@curzon9619 The games selling point is fully voiced content. If you take that away and are okay with it, you’re allowing the devs the lower the bar for quality on content. I’d rather wait 5 years and have voice acted content over what he have now.
@@swcentral Sure, that was the selling point in 2010 when the game was being shown off to people for the first time, but as of now, after passing hands to Broadsword and undoubtedly having a much lower production budget, it's an entirely unrealistic expectation. It's not as if the devs are lazy and simply don't want to put in as much effort, it's that EA is probably siphoning 95% of cartel market sales and leaving the game's dev team with scraps.
@@curzon9619 I appreciate the sentiment but it’s not backed up by any evidence we can use. It is just speculation to say “EA takes everything and leaves scraps” I mean in terms of business, that just seems unreasonable a conclusion without internal knowledge of the matter. It’s been the games selling point, not since just launch or a startup gimmick, but as it’s actual main trait as a game through out the years. Every expansions has been fully voice acted, every quest etc. It’s only now with LoTS we see them pull back on that, the first time, ever. It’s not something easily dismissed. If we see more actual content come from this, it may be a possible trade off. But the cost is high and bringing back that level of quality will literally never happen if we say it’s okay. Very, very slippery slope…
As a SWTOR veteran player of over 10 years & I have paid THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS on SWTOR…The thing that pisses me off the most, is that this game makes MILLIONS of dollars annually, and they haven’t released damn near any real content in years! If I’m spending MY MONEY on SWTOR content, shouldn’t that money be used like an investment (primarily at least…) to create new content for the game I made purchases on, instead of funneling an absurd percentage of SWTOR’s annual earnings into other games projects?! Fml
well, their funding under bioware had SIGNIFICANTLY decreased, and they had to give it to others, who doesnt have the biggest budget yet. You cant just expect them to make huge expansions when they dont have a big budget like they did under KOTFE and the one where you kill vaylin. the engine also has limits, and they are stretching it to its limits as it is already, but yeah, i've been playing since 2013, feels crazy.
@@olliegreen3446 I think I understand the point you’re trying to make, and I hear what you’re saying. However, without any factual data detailing SWTOR’s yearly profit every year since it’s launch up until now, SWTOR’s Annual expenses (How much of that Profit was reinvested into creating future SWTOR content), and lastly, what percentage of SWTOR’s annual profit is being funneled out and going over to EA/Broadsword other projects. At this point all any of us can really do is speculate about the issue(s)/solution(s) and/or hold onto hoping that things start to pick up, in terms of new content releases, in the future.
@@Reagan_6foot9 well yeah fair enough, perhaps we're both right in some of the points we made, swtor in general is truly showing its age, and wouldnt surprise me if it might get cancled or shelved at some point.
@@olliegreen3446 I really hope not, but I honestly think you’re right about that. My only confusion with that is, why are the Devs still creating more and more Cartel Market Items to sell? I mean if it does turn out to be like some last minute cash-grab thing…I will absolutely FLIP OUT 😤
Stopped playing swtor for a couple months ago. Been playing since beta but now i lost my intrest in swtor because i played for good story and now it just boring for me.
Best case scenario for this game is for it to die so people can get private servers running. The only good part about SWTOR being active is it's supposedly preventing Disney touching Old Republic era
@@BaithNa Hard to confirm this. I’ve had discussions with people about attempting it, but approval from the devs is going to be needed unless the game shuts down. Even then it could still be taken down by Lucasfilm, if they wanted too.
I hope when it ends they can do this. I just started playing Star Wars Galaxies this way, partly because I was disillusioned by how SWTOR is going. I'd never played that before. And so far, I'm impressed. Bad at it, but impressed.
The last hope of saving this game is if they give it console support. That's the only way they'll ever boost the playerbase and their revenue to the point where they can do things again instead of this maintenance mode drip of content that we're getting now.
Kind of wild it doesn't exist. To be honest, I'd rather it died because the community would bring up private serves and do it better than the current devs that oversee it now, could ever do.
I believe a well-funded add campaign, using the existing Cinematic Trailers, would work WONDERS for this game. With so many Star Wars fans looking for an alternative to Disney's "Star Wars," I think it has huge playerbase/interest potential. Adding Mac support is a step in the right direction. I play on an M1 Mac (using Crossover, a sort of code-translator tool), and native Mac support would be awesome. I know this would be a VERY expensive venture, but adding a new base Class Story (Imperial Trooper or Republic SIS Agent are two popular choices) would be a great way of keeping the long-time player base entertained for a while, while ALSO giving content that is immediately accessible to new players, and not adding to the already overwhelming amount of content in the game. (I have been playing since 2015 and am nowhere near up to date with the story content, since there is SO much great content already in the game). A new class story would also be very solo-player friendly, as an ever-growing percentage of the player base is made up of solo-players. Longer term, if the game is to survive and grow (which I really REALLY hope it will), the entire game needs to be navigated to a modern engine, which amounts to nearly the same amount of work and budget as an entire remake (minus the voice-acting and story-writing needs). A modern engine could also facilitate adding console support to the game, which would even further increase the player base. If Broadsword can successfully do these things, by actually INVESTING the money it is making from all the recent monetization back INTO the game, we could THEN see future ROTHC/SOR/KOTFE/KOTET-sized expansions. I fear this is not the direction the game is heading, but I love this game with my whole heart, and I still have hope for a bright and long future of SWTOR.
@420Pezz-qc4nt I hope that fuckers like you and the reactionary RUclipsrs do leave Star Wars alone, I don't want your stink ruining it anymore than it already has. Maybe if you had legit reasons for disliking the show then I wouldn't have gone in with the insults but let's be honest here, you don't. You're issues are firmly rooted in your reactionary social views and want for Star Wars to be the prequels over and over again because you have the tastes and sensibilites of a child.
@420Pezz-qc4nt the acolyte wasnt a failure because it was bad. most people that saw it literally actively enjoyed it. the failure was from incels online convincing enough people to not watch it that it hurt its numbers. thats the facts
One things we need in SWTOR: Malgus crowned as emperor. Honestly, there's no reason for the devs to hold him back like that. All Anti-Malgus subfactions are long gone. In fact, the Vitiate loyalists within the Empire were gone even before KOTFE. The main character have no reason to oppose him either since most of his interests are the mc's as well. He's a war hero and the most important DS political figure with 100x more charisma than Acina or Vowran. Making the MC join him in dethroning Vowran in order to take control over the Empire would be a fitting start for a next xpac where Empire and Republic will finally resume the war as it should be. I want a STAR WAR instead of fighting the same villain 4 times using the power of friendship.
They really need to focus on something to end on. What you wrote seems good enough, make Malgus the emperor. Because to me the main overarching story ended with Echoes of Oblivion, finally dealing with Vitiate once and for all. Now it's like 3 storylines running kinda separately and aside Malgus the others are not that interesting.
Well we will have to see how 7.6 plays out. I agree with you that SWTOR should stop with the Disney armors and weapons stuff because no one really cares about them and I would much rather they brought back the old stuff that was removed long ago which looks unique and cool. Yes, please make lair bosses accessible to F2P and Preferred so they can understand how to play against ops bosses and then move on to either subscribe or buy an ops pass. Awesome video as usual, can't wait for your thoughts of the 7.6 livestream.
I don’t even know what to say at this point. The 7.6 livestream needs to have something substantial information that would make anyone hopeful. I doubt that’ll happen though. This has officially become a nostalgia game for me..
I share your thoughts regarding the date night update, it's just fluff, misdirected passion on the dev teams side. The reskins are starting to actually become annoying, as there are over 70 pages in the cartel market, and 87-95% of all items on the cartel market are reskins. They want to get more and more money, and the announcers themselves don't seem to have a whole lot of enthusiasm when speaking updates. If they focus on story content, updating and giving us the end of the malgus and mandalorian storyline. then we might see a spike in returning players. The mac update would definitely bring more players to the game, at least that's what I'm hoping for. Thanks for the update video my friend.
My biggest issue with Cartel Market sets these days isn't that they're bad, because they're really not. It's that we've gone from sets "Inspired" by Star Wars and given the aesthetic of The Old Republic to just copy pasting what people are wearing in Disney+ Shows. I mean, seriously, who asked to get the outfits of the Security Guys from Andor? Why waste time making that when they could've made interesting *original* sets instead.
I haven't played since Eternal Throne, and I may play the game again since I got my first custom PC for gaming and editing so hopefully I'll get to play it again, got alot of stuff to catch on in the game. So happy the game is still around!
I used to play this game religiously until I just...stopped. They invested so much into the plot, character development and voice acting, which provided the initial allure. However, the game was chronically bug-ridden and server maintenance was sporadic. What killed it was when the content was removed from the canon. Once it became basically fan fiction, there was just...no point anymore.
@@TheBreezy703 Compared to World of Warcraft, SWTOR was a cakewalk even when gear was still hard to get (not to mention that ease of gameplay always comes with experience). Don't get me wrong; it had challenges but what I liked was that you didn't need to download an addon to keep track of a needlessly complex rotation. Also, as an altaholic and completionist, having optimized gear ready for a twink when it hit max level was a bonus. I just wish that George Lucas/Dave Filoni/Kathleen Kennedy/whoever "approved" the content before the game was produced and released). Bioware sunk millions into developing it; for Lucas to one day announce that it was not canon was like a slap in the face (edit: I now realize that the game content was declared non-canon _after_ Disney took over Star Wars, which in turn was after Bioware released this game). It's like it became some low-budget fan fiction overnight. What you were doing was no longer instrumental in the Star Wars mythos. That killed it for me. Maybe if, for example, they use the World Between Worlds to introduce the concept of a multiverse into the canon, things will change.
Same here. The late beta and early vanilla game was great, it was fun and quite challenging too. Classes and the factions felt different from each other, different loot/items, even sabre colours were also kept canon (e.g. Jedi couldn't use red) and there were no silly ones like they added later. Which added to the immersion of the game. Then they started releasing garbage content and also a cash shop and it got boring. It stopped feeling like a Starwars game or even an RPG. I left alongside pretty much the entire clan I was in at the time (and seemingly most of the server, I think they ended up merging them from what I remember). That was maybe 8 years ago now. Going F2P and adding a cash shop did really make the game feel low rent too tbh.
@@BlatentlyFakeName factsss still to this day I as why the had the perfect and I do mean perfect system it might been buggy but they had on gold on their hands I never subscribed more to anything the when this game was at its peak
The biggest killer is the current level cap versus the power creep. Even if they raised it 5 more levels, you wouldn't notice because most characters already have armor and weapons above that.
Without the F2P, SWTOR wouldn't have survived past 1-2 years, so no, F2P was a crucial strategy to an otherwise abysmal commercial flop. Regarding cosmetics - I agree. Putting the best cosmetics behind a paywall that naturally should be in the game is a crime that continues to haunt MMOs and ORPGs alike to this day. I get that the cash shop must exist, but there are better ways to monetize things.
I reiterate the need for us to take direct control of the Mandalorians since our character has basically been propping them up since Darvannis. It's a dark side choice for sure, but if we can't be Eternal Emperor/Empress, Mand'alor is a nice consolation.
Heh. Bind on pickup cartel items? Unfortunately that would kill the economy over night. They’d have to restart the entire economy. And doing so will piss off every player guaranteed 😂
I've started playing relatively recently, 900h, got past only through half of the storylines and I still have a lot of interest and fun in the game. This game gave me a lot of positive experience, way more than any other multiplayer game actually Worried about the future of the game, but still have hope. No other game like this
I've been playing this game during Shadow of Revan and before the Rise of the Emperor trailer time period. This game has been absolutely phenomenal and I wish this game had amazing support to give it the love that it deserves. This game has been a highlight in my gaming life since middle school. Now being 21 and rarely play due to dry story patches (I'd say after Meridian Complex), I really want to get back into this game again. Overall, the only thing carrying this game is, as mentioned in previous comments, is the roleplay aspect of the game and the voice acting. Side-Note: I honestly think Sith Warrior's Male voice is #1 out of the others.
Agree. Some people will see that as a bad thing to say. But the reality is that the main trio we see on screen do a terrible job which is axiomatic with the past with years. I wish them well, but this game isn’t going to do well without change in the dev team. Most of the people behind the scenes, are actually hard working people. The ones at the top are the issue. My source? Actual devs that work on the game or have worked on the game. Two who work with them right now, have reached out to tell me I’m doing gods work criticising the higher ups.
@@swcentral Well i'm glad someone is criticizing them I really don't want to see this game. Go under just because some people got lazy For me personally, this is the first Mmo I have ever played
Future is slow but sure death - there is no future. I think Swtor is dead - it had good life and people are remembering it BUT all the stories the person would ever make are done and closed, the only story that he writes now is how he constantly lies under the dirt. There are still people visiting his grave so he aint alone BUT its way less than it used to. Passionate people that cared put flowers on the grave and visit to remember the good old times but nothing will ever bring the corpse back to life and overtime the corpse will get destroyed and only the bones will remain (unless EA shuts it down permanently due to low profit).
Class quest 1-50 was my favorite. wish they would make those type of quests again and less closed in areas. i liked the open world feel of 1-50. played all classes with my best friend and the quest areas was always on par with eatchother. We did warrior+sorc, agent+bounty hunter etc. doing the planet story quests together rollin the dice. Good times i miss playin with her..
Looks like yet again another failure under EA. The thing I am failing to comprehend was the fact that this game was thriving during KOTFE/KOTET Expansions, and even managed to rival WoW. Then EA did the most random thing ever and fired half of the dev team. Now, the dev team is even smaller. I pray for this game's future, but currently, it is not looking very bright.
I’ve never once played SWTOR (tbh the closest thing I ever played to it was wizard/pirate 101 ) but no matter how old I get I will never miss watching a new SWTOR Trailer💯
So I played the opening mission many years ago and by the next day completely forgot about it. Then not too long ago I had this memory of game play but no idea what game it was. I thought I was remembering a dream. I realized it was SWTOR. Imagine my surprise to learn the game is still going and there's actual updates.
Agree. And new combat styles. Imagine Wookiee Engineer. Voss Mystic. Shaman and magiks. Droid class. Hero class like Death Knight. Instead we get farming and baking pies.
Need more talents, new actual endgame content to progress our characters through. Also, although I appreciate the galactic seasons, they are very limited in scope and really don't offer anything meaningful. I mean shit, we could have had some more story in minboosa district and we only go there once to meet up with girl boss smuggler who talks about her employers and that's it. It's completely detached from the season objectives. I often appreciate what the devs put out because the size of their studio does not allow for a proper release cadence of content drops. They just string us along with what u said: 'fluff' content.
I haven’t touched swtor in about half a year. I’ve been playing other RPG’s like Baldur’s gate. I know they changed company or whatever but this does indeed feel scummy. I want swtor to go on forever even if it won’t be updated. Sadly, to keep their bosses happy their resort is to make cheap reskin designs instead of investing in major expansions.
I would be more happy if they announced the start of work on porting the game to a new engine, e.g. UE5. At first there could even be old objects and textures, which they would change later. It's a shame that nothing is happening in this matter.
Disappointed about the lack of note worthy changes, and I know about date nights being fluff. However if they make Jaesa date nights (both versions), I will make a slight change in assessment.
I really, wholeheartedly despise what I'm about to say, but I think it's only fair to the general public: Let it die. Legends continuity is no more as much as it saddens me and SWTOR for what it's worth as an MMO and a video game, has long gone it's course and even outlived prime predictions. The main stories are done, the content worthwhile is done. The combat is done for what it's supposed to be - a Kotor 3 in disguise... I've finally accepted this fate and moved on with my life since 2021, but I've kept returning recently to check if it's alive to some extent, because Legends is the one and only continuity for me SW wise. I wish they would release the last expansion concluding TOR with a time jump right before the Brotherhood of Darkness establishes and Bane rises from the shadows in the next game. But we know that won't happen due Disney.
The general problem with 7.0 is they botched it catering to the lowest niche audience of the SWTOR player base, The RPers, Space barbie, and super casuals. While there is nothing wrong with enjoying those types of content its not what the vast majority of SWTOR players want. I'd say the aforementioned communities are maybe 10-20% of the community. 25% if we want to be gracious. This means that realistically they alienated 75% of their community catering to these players. If you want proof go on fleet and see just how active fleet is or try Qing for group activities and see that it takes 10-15 minutes to get into one. For a quick refresher here is what the SWTOR Dev team has done to destroy their own game. -All Classes were pruned (lost their abilities) -The Ability tree sucks and does not offer meaningful choices when levelling your class. -Levelling itself sucks with how spaced out abilities and passives are. -Ranked PVP was removed in favor of seasons (a literal participation mode) -PVP size was increased to 8 thus allowing regstars to form large Premades to literally farm players with meta stacking. -Unnecessary GTN changes -No new Operations in two years. -No Nim R-4 or even adding Nim versions to Raids that didn't have them. -A dragged out storyline that started almost 5 years ago now. -Horrible Class balancing (Thanks to all the classes being butchered by pruning) -Gearing was changed at 7.0 to be more focused on getting gear pieces and upgrading them but players realized this was a stupid grind and the dev's went back and focused on mods again making the gearing changes basically pointless (lol) -Implants and tacticals either suck, are decent, or broken in something like PVP. -There is more i'm sure but this is what came to mind. The biggest thing though is the stupid emphasis they are putting on their Cartel Crap. No one cares about Acolyte stuff Broadsword. They put all their Dev time trying to milk players wallets with lazy copy and paste designs from the show. They say its "inspired by" but we all know its carbon copies of stuff from the shows. The funny thing is that all these issues could be fixed if they gave a damn, but they don't. They just want those sweet CM sales. EZ low effort content they can milk out. They ignore any criticism because they live in their own bubbles and are deluded to thinking they know what the players want (low effort content). Heck Keiths post about development of SWTOR and Muscos reply basically is summed up as "yes we see your feedback but we don't care, please spend 100$ on this overpriced bundle please". Also the Mac port is pointless. Google why Mac systems are not good for gaming and you'll see why. No modern game dev's port their game to Mac for numerous reasons.
Really good feedback on here. Had me nodding like “hmm, hmm, indeed, hmm, this person gets it” haha! If the devs see any comments here, I hope it’s this one.
Ah SWTOR. Stopped playing a couple of years ago before the sale to Broadsword, and frankly, seeing what I missed in terms of content since then... I really didn't miss anything. So sad to see what SWTOR has become. Bioware was the wrong studio to run this game in the first place.
Small things I want out of swtor at this point, after playing for 9 straight years, that seem realistic and doable in the current dev team situation: - putting CC-unlockable toys in their own tab of the Abilities menu like mounts & pets, and just giving us an "activate random" button like we have for mounts/pets - armorings/mods/enhancements for top tier gear - a story skip (which I know they've said we're getting, but holy shit, can we have it already?) - stop locking daily areas behind storyline for every single character. Unlocking it once should unlock it for legacy, damn it - bug. Fixes. On. Existing. Content. Half the new raids are borderline unplayable ffs - revisiting and expanding old strongholds - open up new rooms from the doors that don't open on the guild flagships, give us another (bigger) level accessible through the elevator on Manaan, give us a functional second floor on Alderaan... the last two in particular were just so disappointing >.< What we're getting instead: - reskins - date nights - endless cartel market content - pointless, unoriginal, dragged out story - game-breaking glitches - endless reworkings of the gearing system, when they had it right back in 2016 That said, I am excited for the new lair boss. Those are fun, honestly
*SWTOR needs a whole new A.I. renovation and dramatic map expansion. I’d love to see the random NPCs engaging in aleatory actions. It’d be so interesting to see the open worlds operating on their own. Maybe actually making the planets completely exploitable. There’s a way to do all of this, but I don’t know if it’ll be a thing too much right now, but in the future, it’s a possibility.*
I still have good memories but soured on the game the second the developers decided to invalidate my 800 hours working towards my own empire I carved out of the dead hands of Valkorion and made me into an Empire/ Republic lackey on Iokath.. took my Empire from me and forced my hand..😢 Shadow of Revan end was epic..standing with Darth Marr looking out into the distance on Yavin 4 triumphant victory behindus a blossom new romance. .the galaxy was ours and all we needed is to reach ...God damn it..I miss those days..
I know it will probably never happen due to the inconvience of trying to fit it into the story but I hope we get an Imperial trooper and SIS agent class
Are we ever going to get another cinematic trailer? Tbh I've never played the game but have grown up watching those cinematics over and over and I'd kill for more Malgus scenes
Keith once said they have plans that go into 2024 and beyond. I can only assume this means the game will keep getting updates. But the quality is evidently dropping each time.
I can answer this without even watching the video. Not fixing serious bugs, requiring players to do all the work of reporting bugs that are easily found if the devs actually tried and not banning players from chat who violate their own privacy rules. Let’s not forget punishing necro posting in an unfair manner, while not punishing players who violate criminal and civil laws.
The SWTOR-Team had lots of great ideas in the past. Voss, Zakuul, Iokath - just to drop a few of these ideas. But now? I hope that 4-year-long Hidden Chain storyline ends soon! I want to see more of the war between Sith-Empire and Republic! But I doubt we will see "long" story-bits. It's sad to wait 6 months just to finish new content in one evening. But maybe Broadsword doesn't have the power/workers to make greater content? Maybe 10 people have to work all these months for a little bit of story? I still hope for new planets, new strongholds and new ideas!
It's a much better game in my opinion, especially the legendary servers. I love SWTOR so I'm not trying to be negative, but the content is still ongoing (expansions) and it's a massive/fun journey either solo or in a group. The group content is alot of fun too.
I was playing 6 years ago. You know what happens in 6 years in some other MMO ? Compare to them, Swtor is a joke, and as you said, especially when we know the amount of money that they are doing. However, 6 years ago we were already talking about the future of the game and our hopes. Nothing of them have been made and it won't gonna change. Imagine all, imagine what this game could be in 2024 if the following up was made to create a great experience! And some people criticise BLizzard with Wow, what a good joke.
Is the economy still beyond broken??? I remember my main had Mandalore SWTOR2's armor on and I bought it for, like, 15k credits per piece, then it was worth millions, in the span of years xD
When does Mac support release? Back in 2013 I bought my first PC just for this game but due to not wanting to buy a new PC I’ve had to step away from SWTOR
I look at games like lotro, being provided content and expansions every year and then I see Swtor having minor updates each quarter its a shame. I know its with a smaller team now at broadsword but Swtor could be much more popular if the time was still being put into it.
@@AnAwkwardlyPlacedSausage Well the crew is the same as far as i know, the game is maintained by Broadsword, at this point the game is in maintenance mode.
Currently playing through the class stories again and through the Zakuul stuff with them as well. The new story just hasn't been in the slightest bit interesting. It's frustrating, especially as I still enjoy the game up until the end of KOTET, and I just wish there was something exciting after that.
Fascinating to see what I'm not missing. I walked away when 5:00 shadow was available for both biological sexes. Was really turning into a grind. Definitely turned off by the Wokealyte items. Still no interest and intention to return. Great bits of info though.
Players need to start speaking with their dollar. As long as SWTOR keeps generating millions of $ per year from the Cartel Market, no real updates will come. Why would a company spend significant resources on major updates when players keep throwing their dollars at cosmetics?
Good question. The same question could be thrown to many other MMO’s, with the difference being that the others actually have updates the players want. SWTOR is an outlier that feels it is entitled to be a shit game because it’s Star Wars anyways so people will play. You’re asking the wrong question I think. The real question is, why should the devs be inspired to make good content when copy and pasting outfits get them paid? The players are *never* the issue. We have no control over anything they do. Gotta look to the source of the problem to find a cure.
i've earned over 5000 Cartel coins from just having a Security token anything i've purchased on the cash shop was purchased with cartel coins given to me by the game. As long as the game isn't being sunset, then i'm more than happy to continue being paid $1/month to play they've more than made up for the 1 time i subscribed. its a good enough game in its own right and can be enjoyed on its own without a ton of "MMO" participation.
For anyone reading, it will take you 50 months to save 5,000 CC. It’s gonna take you 30 seconds to spend it hehe. But yeah, free stuff usually does feel good.
Pet battles with your venture companion I’m calling it 😂
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Use GW2's monetization, dynamic events and progression(horizontal) strategies. Remove the subscription limitations, make stories that are purchasable. Improve graphics and artwork. This would bring me back. SWTOR should have been a story driven horizontal progression mmorpg from the start. The first mistake was copying WoW..
They should begin to close the storylines, in a definitive way and let the credits roll, at least story will not get interrupted in a bad way. Then, if they still want to cash the game, whatever. Just give us a decent ending.
STAY IN YOUR LANE!!!! JK! Nothing but love, my friend! Wait, don't use our blessed mother in this mess called SWTOR. She's a lady!!! 😂
Haha I’m sorry man 😂 imma pin you so people find you ❤️
@@swcentral so us vets comming back from like 2013 looks like the game hasnt changed at all still money hungry and no reason to come back yea? thats all i heard in this video of yours -.-
@@AdmiralHellShot Quality has dipped drastically since then yes, in terms of game health and updates.
You can return and have plenty to do and enjoy. Just keep your expectations in check. If you have not played since 2013, then you have a lot to catch up on before you start to encounter the issues raised in this video.
I would never tell someone not to play, the game is still very fun for anyone who has not yet experienced it. My videos and opinions come from the perspective of being a veteran player who never left and saw everything unfold.
When quality increases or a good update comes in, I’ll be sure to let you know just the same as I did with the opposite :)
Hope this helps.
@@AdmiralHellShot games miles better than in 2013, both graphically and in terms of content.
@@MatanZlatan You would hope in an 11 year time frame there is a lot of content hehe, which is true of course. Especially for our story fans out here.
The voice acting is what helped make this game great. Moving away from it is sad.
its also probally the most costly thing in the game, and aim sick of people suggesting that they simply use ai i voice cloning the actors isnt a solution, as many of the cast not only appose the tech, and wouldnt agree to it even if the training data was done ethically (which knowing ai voice cloningit wont be), so the only avenue would be to recast them, or keep going to more silent protagonist annd alien jibbrish if they cant afford to keep the big named talent. a live service isnt susttainable sadly, eventually the game has to come to an end and i dont think broadword, biowarer, or ea ever had an inkling of concern about media preservation,, so its likely we wont get a city of heroes situation, and its likely the game will just vanish like so many mmos of the recent years
Use the KOTOR solution.
Keep voice acting, no main character dialogue.
@@the_cyberchill Bro yes it is a solution.... in a few decades when ai is better then it will be 100 percent the solution
Wym moving away from it???
One of the reasons why I stopped playing.
My only wish for SWTOR is that it goes out with a bang. One last expansion. Something that can boost player counts up and make the game be remembered fondly.
I know that this is basically impossible but one could still hope.
Star Wars is about hope.
@@ernestooyarzo2881more like cope.
Make malgus a comp, a true comp, and I'd be happy when the game eventually ends.
@@KLamki1 A New Cope
darth bane and the brotherhood of darkness ending in the siths destruction its my dream dlc smh
Let's just hope that it will voice acted this time. That's one of the main reasons to play this game, the roleplay. And now if we could one more claim true power like at the end of the Eternal Throne, it would give the feeling that I waited at least to make my characters powerful again.
@@gman99999 I really hope so too! Honestly, as soon as I got into the first few cutscenes I thought the audio was “bugged” … If they continue to release content that is non-voice acted & half assed I will quit SWTOR, with a heavy heart, but at what point does enough become enough.
I couldn't really care less if it was voice acted or not, as long as the story itself is decent. (And they stop shoving us into forced daily zones between missions)
@@curzon9619 The games selling point is fully voiced content. If you take that away and are okay with it, you’re allowing the devs the lower the bar for quality on content. I’d rather wait 5 years and have voice acted content over what he have now.
@@swcentral
Sure, that was the selling point in 2010 when the game was being shown off to people for the first time, but as of now, after passing hands to Broadsword and undoubtedly having a much lower production budget, it's an entirely unrealistic expectation. It's not as if the devs are lazy and simply don't want to put in as much effort, it's that EA is probably siphoning 95% of cartel market sales and leaving the game's dev team with scraps.
@@curzon9619 I appreciate the sentiment but it’s not backed up by any evidence we can use. It is just speculation to say “EA takes everything and leaves scraps” I mean in terms of business, that just seems unreasonable a conclusion without internal knowledge of the matter.
It’s been the games selling point, not since just launch or a startup gimmick, but as it’s actual main trait as a game through out the years. Every expansions has been fully voice acted, every quest etc.
It’s only now with LoTS we see them pull back on that, the first time, ever. It’s not something easily dismissed.
If we see more actual content come from this, it may be a possible trade off. But the cost is high and bringing back that level of quality will literally never happen if we say it’s okay.
Very, very slippery slope…
As a SWTOR veteran player of over 10 years & I have paid THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS on SWTOR…The thing that pisses me off the most, is that this game makes MILLIONS of dollars annually, and they haven’t released damn near any real content in years!
If I’m spending MY MONEY on SWTOR content, shouldn’t that money be used like an investment (primarily at least…) to create new content for the game I made purchases on, instead of funneling an absurd percentage of SWTOR’s annual earnings into other games projects?! Fml
well, their funding under bioware had SIGNIFICANTLY decreased, and they had to give it to others, who doesnt have the biggest budget yet. You cant just expect them to make huge expansions when they dont have a big budget like they did under KOTFE and the one where you kill vaylin. the engine also has limits, and they are stretching it to its limits as it is already, but yeah, i've been playing since 2013, feels crazy.
@@olliegreen3446 I think I understand the point you’re trying to make, and I hear what you’re saying. However, without any factual data detailing SWTOR’s yearly profit every year since it’s launch up until now, SWTOR’s Annual expenses (How much of that Profit was reinvested into creating future SWTOR content), and lastly, what percentage of SWTOR’s annual profit is being funneled out and going over to EA/Broadsword other projects.
At this point all any of us can really do is speculate about the issue(s)/solution(s) and/or hold onto hoping that things start to pick up, in terms of new content releases, in the future.
@@Reagan_6foot9 well yeah fair enough, perhaps we're both right in some of the points we made, swtor in general is truly showing its age, and wouldnt surprise me if it might get cancled or shelved at some point.
@@olliegreen3446 I really hope not, but I honestly think you’re right about that. My only confusion with that is, why are the Devs still creating more and more Cartel Market Items to sell? I mean if it does turn out to be like some last minute cash-grab thing…I will absolutely FLIP OUT 😤
@@Reagan_6foot9 most likely is the reason, sadly gaming is a business now, so they gotta make money, to produce more stuff for the game.
Remember when this game used to have expansions? Good times
Insert "Pepperidge Farms Remembers" meme here
It never really had a full blown expansion
Stopped playing swtor for a couple months ago. Been playing since beta but now i lost my intrest in swtor because i played for good story and now it just boring for me.
That seems to be a popular sentiment.
Try Star Wind. It's a Star Wars RPG, set in the old Republic, running on the OpenMW engine.
And it already has mods.
As long as they don’t shut down the servers I’m happy
They will stop the game?
Best case scenario for this game is for it to die so people can get private servers running. The only good part about SWTOR being active is it's supposedly preventing Disney touching Old Republic era
There could be private servers now but no one wants to make them. WoW just dropped an expansion and there's plenty of WoW private servers available.
@@BaithNa Hard to confirm this. I’ve had discussions with people about attempting it, but approval from the devs is going to be needed unless the game shuts down. Even then it could still be taken down by Lucasfilm, if they wanted too.
Id rather play a fresh swtor server than a fresh wow server
I hope when it ends they can do this. I just started playing Star Wars Galaxies this way, partly because I was disillusioned by how SWTOR is going. I'd never played that before. And so far, I'm impressed. Bad at it, but impressed.
@@jacobkeller9478 I'd play hardcore classic swtor at least once
The last hope of saving this game is if they give it console support. That's the only way they'll ever boost the playerbase and their revenue to the point where they can do things again instead of this maintenance mode drip of content that we're getting now.
Hope they look to games like PSO and FFXIV on how to do it, and provide a mouse and keyboard mode for it.
Kind of wild it doesn't exist. To be honest, I'd rather it died because the community would bring up private serves and do it better than the current devs that oversee it now, could ever do.
I believe a well-funded add campaign, using the existing Cinematic Trailers, would work WONDERS for this game. With so many Star Wars fans looking for an alternative to Disney's "Star Wars," I think it has huge playerbase/interest potential.
Adding Mac support is a step in the right direction. I play on an M1 Mac (using Crossover, a sort of code-translator tool), and native Mac support would be awesome.
I know this would be a VERY expensive venture, but adding a new base Class Story (Imperial Trooper or Republic SIS Agent are two popular choices) would be a great way of keeping the long-time player base entertained for a while, while ALSO giving content that is immediately accessible to new players, and not adding to the already overwhelming amount of content in the game. (I have been playing since 2015 and am nowhere near up to date with the story content, since there is SO much great content already in the game). A new class story would also be very solo-player friendly, as an ever-growing percentage of the player base is made up of solo-players.
Longer term, if the game is to survive and grow (which I really REALLY hope it will), the entire game needs to be navigated to a modern engine, which amounts to nearly the same amount of work and budget as an entire remake (minus the voice-acting and story-writing needs). A modern engine could also facilitate adding console support to the game, which would even further increase the player base.
If Broadsword can successfully do these things, by actually INVESTING the money it is making from all the recent monetization back INTO the game, we could THEN see future ROTHC/SOR/KOTFE/KOTET-sized expansions. I fear this is not the direction the game is heading, but I love this game with my whole heart, and I still have hope for a bright and long future of SWTOR.
Excellent feedback.
I hate the acolyte items. It is ridiculous.
They're no more ridiculous than 99% of the stuff in the cartel market.
@420Pezz-qc4nt This is a ridiculously stupid take, which is impressive coming from a Star Wars "fan" because those are a dime a dozen.
@420Pezz-qc4nt I hope that fuckers like you and the reactionary RUclipsrs do leave Star Wars alone, I don't want your stink ruining it anymore than it already has. Maybe if you had legit reasons for disliking the show then I wouldn't have gone in with the insults but let's be honest here, you don't. You're issues are firmly rooted in your reactionary social views and want for Star Wars to be the prequels over and over again because you have the tastes and sensibilites of a child.
@420Pezz-qc4nt the acolyte wasnt a failure because it was bad. most people that saw it literally actively enjoyed it. the failure was from incels online convincing enough people to not watch it that it hurt its numbers. thats the facts
@420Pezz-qc4nt fact is most people who watched it enjoyed it. sorry your feelings dont match reality but you have fun in your hate cult kiddo
It has no future, it is kept alive only for the CM.
they need to release classic servers
One things we need in SWTOR:
Malgus crowned as emperor. Honestly, there's no reason for the devs to hold him back like that. All Anti-Malgus subfactions are long gone. In fact, the Vitiate loyalists within the Empire were gone even before KOTFE. The main character have no reason to oppose him either since most of his interests are the mc's as well. He's a war hero and the most important DS political figure with 100x more charisma than Acina or Vowran. Making the MC join him in dethroning Vowran in order to take control over the Empire would be a fitting start for a next xpac where Empire and Republic will finally resume the war as it should be. I want a STAR WAR instead of fighting the same villain 4 times using the power of friendship.
They really need to focus on something to end on. What you wrote seems good enough, make Malgus the emperor. Because to me the main overarching story ended with Echoes of Oblivion, finally dealing with Vitiate once and for all. Now it's like 3 storylines running kinda separately and aside Malgus the others are not that interesting.
@@vodkavecz Darth Jadus still have to return before the end, as an ops threatning the entire galaxy, only than ill be happy.
Well we will have to see how 7.6 plays out. I agree with you that SWTOR should stop with the Disney armors and weapons stuff because no one really cares about them and I would much rather they brought back the old stuff that was removed long ago which looks unique and cool. Yes, please make lair bosses accessible to F2P and Preferred so they can understand how to play against ops bosses and then move on to either subscribe or buy an ops pass. Awesome video as usual, can't wait for your thoughts of the 7.6 livestream.
This cashshop is insane. Almost all of my characters have free worlddrop armours! Just to spite em! 🎉🎉😂
Love that! Vote with your wallet haha
I don’t even know what to say at this point. The 7.6 livestream needs to have something substantial information that would make anyone hopeful. I doubt that’ll happen though. This has officially become a nostalgia game for me..
im just gonna replay the original class stories periodically until im sick of the game and leave permanently lol
I share your thoughts regarding the date night update, it's just fluff, misdirected passion on the dev teams side. The reskins are starting to actually become annoying, as there are over 70 pages in the cartel market, and 87-95% of all items on the cartel market are reskins. They want to get more and more money, and the announcers themselves don't seem to have a whole lot of enthusiasm when speaking updates. If they focus on story content, updating and giving us the end of the malgus and mandalorian storyline. then we might see a spike in returning players. The mac update would definitely bring more players to the game, at least that's what I'm hoping for. Thanks for the update video my friend.
Valkorion storyline ❤
I miss the Emperor :( he got a bad rap but atleast the game was exciting
You'll understand if I have zero confidence in the developers at this rate. The goodwill be eroded.
We understand.
My biggest issue with Cartel Market sets these days isn't that they're bad, because they're really not. It's that we've gone from sets "Inspired" by Star Wars and given the aesthetic of The Old Republic to just copy pasting what people are wearing in Disney+ Shows. I mean, seriously, who asked to get the outfits of the Security Guys from Andor? Why waste time making that when they could've made interesting *original* sets instead.
Agree. Even the Cartel Market team has dropped on quality and creativity. It’s insane how self destructive the devs are.
I haven't played since Eternal Throne, and I may play the game again since I got my first custom PC for gaming and editing so hopefully I'll get to play it again, got alot of stuff to catch on in the game. So happy the game is still around!
I used to play this game religiously until I just...stopped. They invested so much into the plot, character development and voice acting, which provided the initial allure. However, the game was chronically bug-ridden and server maintenance was sporadic.
What killed it was when the content was removed from the canon. Once it became basically fan fiction, there was just...no point anymore.
for me is when they try to make it so easy what allured my of swtor was it was hard and needed people to run with or give you a real reason to grind
@@TheBreezy703 Compared to World of Warcraft, SWTOR was a cakewalk even when gear was still hard to get (not to mention that ease of gameplay always comes with experience). Don't get me wrong; it had challenges but what I liked was that you didn't need to download an addon to keep track of a needlessly complex rotation.
Also, as an altaholic and completionist, having optimized gear ready for a twink when it hit max level was a bonus.
I just wish that George Lucas/Dave Filoni/Kathleen Kennedy/whoever "approved" the content before the game was produced and released). Bioware sunk millions into developing it; for Lucas to one day announce that it was not canon was like a slap in the face (edit: I now realize that the game content was declared non-canon _after_ Disney took over Star Wars, which in turn was after Bioware released this game). It's like it became some low-budget fan fiction overnight. What you were doing was no longer instrumental in the Star Wars mythos. That killed it for me.
Maybe if, for example, they use the World Between Worlds to introduce the concept of a multiverse into the canon, things will change.
@@Primordial_Synapse spot onnnn!!!
Same here. The late beta and early vanilla game was great, it was fun and quite challenging too. Classes and the factions felt different from each other, different loot/items, even sabre colours were also kept canon (e.g. Jedi couldn't use red) and there were no silly ones like they added later. Which added to the immersion of the game.
Then they started releasing garbage content and also a cash shop and it got boring. It stopped feeling like a Starwars game or even an RPG. I left alongside pretty much the entire clan I was in at the time (and seemingly most of the server, I think they ended up merging them from what I remember). That was maybe 8 years ago now.
Going F2P and adding a cash shop did really make the game feel low rent too tbh.
@@BlatentlyFakeName factsss still to this day I as why the had the perfect and I do mean perfect system it might been buggy but they had on gold on their hands I never subscribed more to anything the when this game was at its peak
The biggest killer is the current level cap versus the power creep. Even if they raised it 5 more levels, you wouldn't notice because most characters already have armor and weapons above that.
SWTOR got ruined by going F2P and overdoing it with the item shop.
Paid cosmetics have no place in an MMORPG and I'll die on that hill.
Without the F2P, SWTOR wouldn't have survived past 1-2 years, so no, F2P was a crucial strategy to an otherwise abysmal commercial flop. Regarding cosmetics - I agree. Putting the best cosmetics behind a paywall that naturally should be in the game is a crime that continues to haunt MMOs and ORPGs alike to this day. I get that the cash shop must exist, but there are better ways to monetize things.
I'm glad this and dcuo keep getting updates
The less they involved themselves with Lucasfilm, the better
It's the same kind of people writing this game now who get priority for hiring and promotions and lucafilm. absolutely no difference.
I reiterate the need for us to take direct control of the Mandalorians since our character has basically been propping them up since Darvannis. It's a dark side choice for sure, but if we can't be Eternal Emperor/Empress, Mand'alor is a nice consolation.
I want a Krayt Dragon boss on Tatooine!!!
One of the rewards should be a Krayt Dragon pearl lightsaber/color crystal
I swear to god...I wouldn't hate the cartel market so much if they stopped the items from being sold on the GTN.
Heh. Bind on pickup cartel items? Unfortunately that would kill the economy over night. They’d have to restart the entire economy. And doing so will piss off every player guaranteed 😂
@@swcentral Yeah...god forbid players work for credits. Lmao
I've started playing relatively recently, 900h, got past only through half of the storylines and I still have a lot of interest and fun in the game.
This game gave me a lot of positive experience, way more than any other multiplayer game actually
Worried about the future of the game, but still have hope. No other game like this
I've been playing this game during Shadow of Revan and before the Rise of the Emperor trailer time period. This game has been absolutely phenomenal and I wish this game had amazing support to give it the love that it deserves. This game has been a highlight in my gaming life since middle school. Now being 21 and rarely play due to dry story patches (I'd say after Meridian Complex), I really want to get back into this game again. Overall, the only thing carrying this game is, as mentioned in previous comments, is the roleplay aspect of the game and the voice acting.
Side-Note: I honestly think Sith Warrior's Male voice is #1 out of the others.
Hehe that’s a good choice!
It's on life support. Has been since transferring to Broadsword.
I think some of the devs need to be fired
Agree. Some people will see that as a bad thing to say. But the reality is that the main trio we see on screen do a terrible job which is axiomatic with the past with years.
I wish them well, but this game isn’t going to do well without change in the dev team.
Most of the people behind the scenes, are actually hard working people. The ones at the top are the issue.
My source? Actual devs that work on the game or have worked on the game. Two who work with them right now, have reached out to tell me I’m doing gods work criticising the higher ups.
@@swcentral Fantastic job man. Keep up the great work. The ones up in their castles must see the truth.
@@swcentral Well i'm glad someone is criticizing them I really don't want to see this game. Go under just because some people got lazy For me personally, this is the first Mmo I have ever played
Future is slow but sure death - there is no future.
I think Swtor is dead - it had good life and people are remembering it BUT all the stories the person would ever make are done and closed, the only story that he writes now is how he constantly lies under the dirt. There are still people visiting his grave so he aint alone BUT its way less than it used to. Passionate people that cared put flowers on the grave and visit to remember the good old times but nothing will ever bring the corpse back to life and overtime the corpse will get destroyed and only the bones will remain (unless EA shuts it down permanently due to low profit).
I refuse to believe the game is dead until all servers shut down.
Class quest 1-50 was my favorite. wish they would make those type of quests again and less closed in areas. i liked the open world feel of 1-50. played all classes with my best friend and the quest areas was always on par with eatchother. We did warrior+sorc, agent+bounty hunter etc. doing the planet story quests together rollin the dice.
Good times i miss playin with her..
faxxx those expierieences made the game what it was the hard fun of the game
Looks like yet again another failure under EA. The thing I am failing to comprehend was the fact that this game was thriving during KOTFE/KOTET Expansions, and even managed to rival WoW. Then EA did the most random thing ever and fired half of the dev team. Now, the dev team is even smaller. I pray for this game's future, but currently, it is not looking very bright.
I’ve never once played SWTOR (tbh the closest thing I ever played to it was wizard/pirate 101 ) but no matter how old I get I will never miss watching a new SWTOR Trailer💯
Its dead Jim...it allready smells...
So I played the opening mission many years ago and by the next day completely forgot about it. Then not too long ago I had this memory of game play but no idea what game it was. I thought I was remembering a dream. I realized it was SWTOR. Imagine my surprise to learn the game is still going and there's actual updates.
Wild 😂
It might be twice as long as LotS which would make it 2-3 hours long
Expecting the next Star Wars mmo to be shown at either TGAs or in July.
Zenimax/Bethesda have been real cozy with Disney lately
They need to give us NEW PLAYABLE RACES
Agree. And new combat styles.
Imagine Wookiee Engineer.
Voss Mystic.
Shaman and magiks.
Droid class.
Hero class like Death Knight.
Instead we get farming and baking pies.
They need at least 4 new classes
What about zakuul class @@swcentral
Need more talents, new actual endgame content to progress our characters through. Also, although I appreciate the galactic seasons, they are very limited in scope and really don't offer anything meaningful. I mean shit, we could have had some more story in minboosa district and we only go there once to meet up with girl boss smuggler who talks about her employers and that's it. It's completely detached from the season objectives.
I often appreciate what the devs put out because the size of their studio does not allow for a proper release cadence of content drops. They just string us along with what u said: 'fluff' content.
@@levampblaze6312 Yes! Zakuul Knight class with the shield and pyke.
I haven’t touched swtor in about half a year. I’ve been playing other RPG’s like Baldur’s gate. I know they changed company or whatever but this does indeed feel scummy. I want swtor to go on forever even if it won’t be updated. Sadly, to keep their bosses happy their resort is to make cheap reskin designs instead of investing in major expansions.
I would be more happy if they announced the start of work on porting the game to a new engine, e.g. UE5. At first there could even be old objects and textures, which they would change later. It's a shame that nothing is happening in this matter.
Disappointed about the lack of note worthy changes, and I know about date nights being fluff. However if they make Jaesa date nights (both versions), I will make a slight change in assessment.
Tell no one…
But I agree.
Give us the temporary companions. Marr, Revan, HK, Satele Etc. Its a quick and easy way to give new interest to the player base
I really, wholeheartedly despise what I'm about to say, but I think it's only fair to the general public:
Let it die. Legends continuity is no more as much as it saddens me and SWTOR for what it's worth as an MMO and a video game, has long gone it's course and even outlived prime predictions. The main stories are done, the content worthwhile is done. The combat is done for what it's supposed to be - a Kotor 3 in disguise... I've finally accepted this fate and moved on with my life since 2021, but I've kept returning recently to check if it's alive to some extent, because Legends is the one and only continuity for me SW wise. I wish they would release the last expansion concluding TOR with a time jump right before the Brotherhood of Darkness establishes and Bane rises from the shadows in the next game. But we know that won't happen due Disney.
I just want a reason to log back in and turn my lightsaber back on. I really thought Malgus being back would've hit hard, but it felt hollow.
"Art modernization"
Oh boy... they're going to bury this game.
I'm still waiting for an update to crafting promised 3 years ago before 7.0
Crafting revamp haha, probably sent to the void with R4 MM
The general problem with 7.0 is they botched it catering to the lowest niche audience of the SWTOR player base, The RPers, Space barbie, and super casuals.
While there is nothing wrong with enjoying those types of content its not what the vast majority of SWTOR players want. I'd say the aforementioned communities are maybe 10-20% of the community. 25% if we want to be gracious.
This means that realistically they alienated 75% of their community catering to these players. If you want proof go on fleet and see just how active fleet is or try Qing for group activities and see that it takes 10-15 minutes to get into one.
For a quick refresher here is what the SWTOR Dev team has done to destroy their own game.
-All Classes were pruned (lost their abilities)
-The Ability tree sucks and does not offer meaningful choices when levelling your class.
-Levelling itself sucks with how spaced out abilities and passives are.
-Ranked PVP was removed in favor of seasons (a literal participation mode)
-PVP size was increased to 8 thus allowing regstars to form large Premades to literally farm players with meta stacking.
-Unnecessary GTN changes
-No new Operations in two years.
-No Nim R-4 or even adding Nim versions to Raids that didn't have them.
-A dragged out storyline that started almost 5 years ago now.
-Horrible Class balancing (Thanks to all the classes being butchered by pruning)
-Gearing was changed at 7.0 to be more focused on getting gear pieces and upgrading them but players realized this was a stupid grind and the dev's went back and focused on mods again making the gearing changes basically pointless (lol)
-Implants and tacticals either suck, are decent, or broken in something like PVP.
-There is more i'm sure but this is what came to mind.
The biggest thing though is the stupid emphasis they are putting on their Cartel Crap. No one cares about Acolyte stuff Broadsword. They put all their Dev time trying to milk players wallets with lazy copy and paste designs from the show. They say its "inspired by" but we all know its carbon copies of stuff from the shows.
The funny thing is that all these issues could be fixed if they gave a damn, but they don't. They just want those sweet CM sales. EZ low effort content they can milk out. They ignore any criticism because they live in their own bubbles and are deluded to thinking they know what the players want (low effort content).
Heck Keiths post about development of SWTOR and Muscos reply basically is summed up as "yes we see your feedback but we don't care, please spend 100$ on this overpriced bundle please".
Also the Mac port is pointless. Google why Mac systems are not good for gaming and you'll see why. No modern game dev's port their game to Mac for numerous reasons.
Really good feedback on here. Had me nodding like “hmm, hmm, indeed, hmm, this person gets it” haha!
If the devs see any comments here, I hope it’s this one.
Vanilla SWTOR please ❤
Ah SWTOR. Stopped playing a couple of years ago before the sale to Broadsword, and frankly, seeing what I missed in terms of content since then... I really didn't miss anything.
So sad to see what SWTOR has become. Bioware was the wrong studio to run this game in the first place.
Small things I want out of swtor at this point, after playing for 9 straight years, that seem realistic and doable in the current dev team situation:
- putting CC-unlockable toys in their own tab of the Abilities menu like mounts & pets, and just giving us an "activate random" button like we have for mounts/pets
- armorings/mods/enhancements for top tier gear
- a story skip (which I know they've said we're getting, but holy shit, can we have it already?)
- stop locking daily areas behind storyline for every single character. Unlocking it once should unlock it for legacy, damn it
- bug. Fixes. On. Existing. Content. Half the new raids are borderline unplayable ffs
- revisiting and expanding old strongholds - open up new rooms from the doors that don't open on the guild flagships, give us another (bigger) level accessible through the elevator on Manaan, give us a functional second floor on Alderaan... the last two in particular were just so disappointing >.<
What we're getting instead:
- reskins
- date nights
- endless cartel market content
- pointless, unoriginal, dragged out story
- game-breaking glitches
- endless reworkings of the gearing system, when they had it right back in 2016
That said, I am excited for the new lair boss. Those are fun, honestly
Great feedback really. The devs read these comments, let’s hope they see yours.
They need to look at what made Vanilla so great.
I miss the Vanilla-style SWTOR-feel armor and lightsabers.
Honestly, I'd like to give this another go around Christmas. This should be the best experience in its most polished form.
What makes you think this?
@@swcentral I'm more hopeful than anything. Played this at launch :D
*SWTOR needs a whole new A.I. renovation and dramatic map expansion. I’d love to see the random NPCs engaging in aleatory actions. It’d be so interesting to see the open worlds operating on their own. Maybe actually making the planets completely exploitable. There’s a way to do all of this, but I don’t know if it’ll be a thing too much right now, but in the future, it’s a possibility.*
I still have good memories but soured on the game the second the developers decided to invalidate my 800 hours working towards my own empire I carved out of the dead hands of Valkorion and made me into an Empire/ Republic lackey on Iokath.. took my Empire from me and forced my hand..😢 Shadow of Revan end was epic..standing with Darth Marr looking out into the distance on Yavin 4 triumphant victory behindus a blossom new romance. .the galaxy was ours and all we needed is to reach ...God damn it..I miss those days..
I never understood why they won't just bring the game to system's PS4 or 5 or Xbox
Because EA are fools.
If we get a new story writer, we will be fine, if we keep getting boring mando wars with no sith or jedi then we're doomed
I know it will probably never happen due to the inconvience of trying to fit it into the story but I hope we get an Imperial trooper and SIS agent class
Are we ever going to get another cinematic trailer? Tbh I've never played the game but have grown up watching those cinematics over and over and I'd kill for more Malgus scenes
I have reason to believe yes. But I do not know when.
Anyone think we will get a proper 8.0? Doubt it. Love the game but leave it for a few months at a time, there is only so many charaters you can level
Keith once said they have plans that go into 2024 and beyond. I can only assume this means the game will keep getting updates. But the quality is evidently dropping each time.
@@swcentral Keith says a lot of things, plans for the cash shop defo, team is too small for massive updates now.
I can answer this without even watching the video. Not fixing serious bugs, requiring players to do all the work of reporting bugs that are easily found if the devs actually tried and not banning players from chat who violate their own privacy rules. Let’s not forget punishing necro posting in an unfair manner, while not punishing players who violate criminal and civil laws.
I really would love a Count Dooku set
I finally decided to give it a try after all these years and on October 1st today The servers are down
The SWTOR-Team had lots of great ideas in the past. Voss, Zakuul, Iokath - just to drop a few of these ideas. But now? I hope that 4-year-long Hidden Chain storyline ends soon! I want to see more of the war between Sith-Empire and Republic! But I doubt we will see "long" story-bits. It's sad to wait 6 months just to finish new content in one evening. But maybe Broadsword doesn't have the power/workers to make greater content? Maybe 10 people have to work all these months for a little bit of story? I still hope for new planets, new strongholds and new ideas!
Eric Musco is the final boss of SWTOR.
I love this game with the Jedi Knight story playthrough
I'm not getting my hopes up, but i'll gladly watch your reports (i'm more excited for them than the updates).
Thanks haha 😂
Hell, it's getting harder for me to want an log in now a days. Honestly thinking about trying lotro
It's a much better game in my opinion, especially the legendary servers. I love SWTOR so I'm not trying to be negative, but the content is still ongoing (expansions) and it's a massive/fun journey either solo or in a group. The group content is alot of fun too.
I would love to see SWTOR on consoles! I spent unholy amounts of time and money in/on SWTOR and I still would start over on consoles!
If they can figure out cross play, even better.
@@swcentral absolutely!
I was playing 6 years ago. You know what happens in 6 years in some other MMO ? Compare to them, Swtor is a joke, and as you said, especially when we know the amount of money that they are doing. However, 6 years ago we were already talking about the future of the game and our hopes. Nothing of them have been made and it won't gonna change. Imagine all, imagine what this game could be in 2024 if the following up was made to create a great experience! And some people criticise BLizzard with Wow, what a good joke.
Is the economy still beyond broken??? I remember my main had Mandalore SWTOR2's armor on and I bought it for, like, 15k credits per piece, then it was worth millions, in the span of years xD
Still broken yeah, but somehow slightly better than last year. Inflation won’t be an overnight fix for them, might not ever be fixed.
I hope that we'll get a rework of Heroics so that some better rewards come out of them. The Galactic Command Crates are pretty much useless now.
Been playing on my Mac via crossover! Would be great to drop that as I only pay for it to play swtor :)
If they put that little effort into twitch drops, they can ejoy my 4 hours playing on a unattended computer screen
What about Darth Jadus returning from exile and threatning the entire galaxy. Bringing with him a ops to defeat him?
That would single handedly bring back a mass amount of players. People want Jadus to return!
That would be great
When does Mac support release? Back in 2013 I bought my first PC just for this game but due to not wanting to buy a new PC I’ve had to step away from SWTOR
They’re looking for people to test it at the moment. I would assume its intended release date is with 7.6 but I’m unsure
I look at games like lotro, being provided content and expansions every year and then I see Swtor having minor updates each quarter its a shame. I know its with a smaller team now at broadsword but Swtor could be much more popular if the time was still being put into it.
The fact that they spent time and effort to develop the date night "content" shows what poo decision making they have in BW atm...
I thought bioware sold it to broadsword?
@@AnAwkwardlyPlacedSausage Well the crew is the same as far as i know, the game is maintained by Broadsword, at this point the game is in maintenance mode.
Currently playing through the class stories again and through the Zakuul stuff with them as well. The new story just hasn't been in the slightest bit interesting. It's frustrating, especially as I still enjoy the game up until the end of KOTET, and I just wish there was something exciting after that.
are they gonna put a way to disable FULLSCREEN chat interractions ANY TIME YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING!?!?!?!?!?!?
You want a way to disable the KOTOR style scenes?
I literally wanted a windows computer so I could play swtor bc I had a mac as a kid
Fascinating to see what I'm not missing. I walked away when 5:00 shadow was available for both biological sexes. Was really turning into a grind. Definitely turned off by the Wokealyte items. Still no interest and intention to return. Great bits of info though.
I can’t even get the fucking twitch drop. It stopped giving me progress at 31% for no fucking reason
who else doesnt care about the new updates and comes every few months to replay the class stories and leaves
*raises hand*
I’m done with this game until the Mandolorian story is over 7.6 Might be their last chance with me So frustrated This game was so great once
Players need to start speaking with their dollar. As long as SWTOR keeps generating millions of $ per year from the Cartel Market, no real updates will come. Why would a company spend significant resources on major updates when players keep throwing their dollars at cosmetics?
Good question. The same question could be thrown to many other MMO’s, with the difference being that the others actually have updates the players want. SWTOR is an outlier that feels it is entitled to be a shit game because it’s Star Wars anyways so people will play.
You’re asking the wrong question I think. The real question is, why should the devs be inspired to make good content when copy and pasting outfits get them paid?
The players are *never* the issue. We have no control over anything they do. Gotta look to the source of the problem to find a cure.
I love SWTOR and consider it the best im tryin to bring my friend in it
Im talkin about the base free story
i've earned over 5000 Cartel coins from just having a Security token
anything i've purchased on the cash shop was purchased with cartel coins given to me by the game.
As long as the game isn't being sunset, then i'm more than happy to continue being paid $1/month to play they've more than made up for the 1 time i subscribed.
its a good enough game in its own right and can be enjoyed on its own without a ton of "MMO" participation.
For anyone reading, it will take you 50 months to save 5,000 CC. It’s gonna take you 30 seconds to spend it hehe. But yeah, free stuff usually does feel good.
At this point I'm coping for the KOTOR remake or a open universe single player create your character good or evil star wars game
Starfield is not a bad option. Lots of Clone Wars and SWTOR veterans voicing people in game.
I have a Mac! Love this news
Swotor is GREAT game and i had some fun time while playing but the thing i hate about swotor is how peapole who spend on money have easiear lvling
bet money the "new type of content" will be more pvp related garbage.
Pet battles with your venture companion I’m calling it 😂
Use GW2's monetization, dynamic events and progression(horizontal) strategies. Remove the subscription limitations, make stories that are purchasable. Improve graphics and artwork. This would bring me back. SWTOR should have been a story driven horizontal progression mmorpg from the start. The first mistake was copying WoW..
They should begin to close the storylines, in a definitive way and let the credits roll, at least story will not get interrupted in a bad way. Then, if they still want to cash the game, whatever. Just give us a decent ending.
Hey Sam hope you are well man! Been awhile since I tuned in here on your channel:D
Miso :D
I am well thanks! I hope you are too friend ❤