Compared to two days ago I have become a genius level expert on Mill glaze. Hadn't even heard about it a few days ago. I called ready seal and PPG and a cedar timber treatment company for cedar homes (think cabin with stained siding). All three introduced me to the concept of milk glaze. I was told that since I had planned my cedar, I had created Mill glaze. One of the guys explained that when they look under a microscope, cedar in particular, has quite a bit of silica in it which is essentially glass. So, today, I took a 24-in section of cedar picket that I had planned. I then sanded half of it with 80 grit. Nothing hardcore but enough to remove the very top layer. Then I wiped it off and I walked out into the sunlight and I moved that piece of wood around just like I was trying to blind someone with a mirror using sunlight lol. The difference in sheen was stunning. Almost is stunning as the fact that I had never really noticed it before. I am now in the process of waiting for the stains that I applied from ready seal to dry. I bought the sample pack of eight different colors that they sell. Why more companies don't do this, I have no idea. They don't give them away for free and they're extremely helpful. Particularly with cedar which has colors as white as pine and as dark as redwood. I did samples on both the sanded and unsanded side and am waiting for them to dry right now. But I can already tell the difference in how well the stain is absorbed was evident immediately. This is very annoying because one of the reasons I got the planer was so I didn't have to say in the goddamned cedar to begin with! Lol. Seems no matter how hard I try I can't get away from having to sand and I hate sanding just like everyone else. So, no need to read any research articles. Just plain a piece of wood and then sand half of it and then use a flashlight or sunlight to show how reflective either side is and you will see a massive difference. Mill glaze is unquestionably a real issue. Thank you for your video!
I feel your pain like you can't imagine. Bought a planer for the same F*****g reason!!! The difference in sheen/reflectivity is amazing. I am now testing sanding with 60/80/120 grit with a planed piece of cedar and without first planing. Who the F*** wants to sand??? So now I'm thinking drum sander. This is such an annoying problem because results in a massive difference in how well stain is absorbed versus it sitting on the surface. You can see the middle glaze plain as day. Super shiny vs sanding. Aaaaargh! Also, Ready Seal drives me nuts. Like they had a bet on how much orange they could get away with putting in their product and still sell it. The people at ready seal are very cool but the product is crazy clown Orange. Any epiphanies since you posted?
Lol. After reading half your long comment, I had to scroll up just to make sure I wasn't reading one of my own comments. My cedar deck has been and still is biggest nightmare ever. As much as I would like to share about my experience, that just puts me closer to going out there with a torch
Funny and crazy making at the same time. We've had to do a ton of DIY motor mediation in our house. Despite being a savvy home inspector of 25 years, I moved in with my girlfriend 9 years ago and of course it occursory inspection way before we got serious for a single mom and her kids :-). Found zero wrong and I am extremely adapted finding mold issues. However, nobody on this planet can find hidden mold issues when there's not an obvious moisture intrusion point or poor drainage etc. Topographically, we're very low in a valley so the relative humidity is higher and I think I've discovered what ails much of this country. And that is mold growth due to condensation and exterior wall cavities. Certainly on heat pump heat exchanger fins. 95% of the time in my experience. But hidden mold ... We had to hire a guy who had a dog that he trained and the dog found some of it. Anyway, that will make you much crazier but I bring it up because after years of doing this my stepson one day looked at me during a particularly frustrating situation and said "oooooo I WANNA COMMIT ARSON!!!!" 😂😂😂😅😅😅. I died laughing for a while and he ended up laughing too :-) So I'm sure it doesn't make you feel any better but, by comparison, a deck isn't so bad. But I do have to admit that I find it unbelievably frustrating to see people selling all kinds of outdoor cedar furniture and shutters with these beautiful amazing stains on them and everything I do looks like crap. Some of it looks okay but in comparison it looks like crap. I have recently noticed that true Western cedar has more consistent coloring in it and that does seem to make a difference. The pieces that I have that have a lot of white in them and then have substantial red in them are very difficult to get a good looking stain on. So I think that matters quite a bit. Anyway, best of luck brother! 👍👍
So the study they were not able to reproduce it, they were able to cite other reasons for specific failures previously siding glaze as the cause and yet you hang onto the notion of milk glaze being a thing why?
What good was that All you had to do is give your opinion on jobs you've done whether it's in a factor or not
Compared to two days ago I have become a genius level expert on Mill glaze. Hadn't even heard about it a few days ago. I called ready seal and PPG and a cedar timber treatment company for cedar homes (think cabin with stained siding). All three introduced me to the concept of milk glaze. I was told that since I had planned my cedar, I had created Mill glaze. One of the guys explained that when they look under a microscope, cedar in particular, has quite a bit of silica in it which is essentially glass. So, today, I took a 24-in section of cedar picket that I had planned. I then sanded half of it with 80 grit. Nothing hardcore but enough to remove the very top layer. Then I wiped it off and I walked out into the sunlight and I moved that piece of wood around just like I was trying to blind someone with a mirror using sunlight lol. The difference in sheen was stunning. Almost is stunning as the fact that I had never really noticed it before. I am now in the process of waiting for the stains that I applied from ready seal to dry. I bought the sample pack of eight different colors that they sell. Why more companies don't do this, I have no idea. They don't give them away for free and they're extremely helpful. Particularly with cedar which has colors as white as pine and as dark as redwood. I did samples on both the sanded and unsanded side and am waiting for them to dry right now. But I can already tell the difference in how well the stain is absorbed was evident immediately. This is very annoying because one of the reasons I got the planer was so I didn't have to say in the goddamned cedar to begin with! Lol. Seems no matter how hard I try I can't get away from having to sand and I hate sanding just like everyone else. So, no need to read any research articles. Just plain a piece of wood and then sand half of it and then use a flashlight or sunlight to show how reflective either side is and you will see a massive difference. Mill glaze is unquestionably a real issue. Thank you for your video!
I feel your pain like you can't imagine. Bought a planer for the same F*****g reason!!! The difference in sheen/reflectivity is amazing. I am now testing sanding with 60/80/120 grit with a planed piece of cedar and without first planing. Who the F*** wants to sand??? So now I'm thinking drum sander. This is such an annoying problem because results in a massive difference in how well stain is absorbed versus it sitting on the surface. You can see the middle glaze plain as day. Super shiny vs sanding. Aaaaargh!
Also, Ready Seal drives me nuts. Like they had a bet on how much orange they could get away with putting in their product and still sell it. The people at ready seal are very cool but the product is crazy clown Orange.
Any epiphanies since you posted?
Lol. After reading half your long comment, I had to scroll up just to make sure I wasn't reading one of my own comments. My cedar deck has been and still is biggest nightmare ever. As much as I would like to share about my experience, that just puts me closer to going out there with a torch
Funny and crazy making at the same time.
We've had to do a ton of DIY motor mediation in our house. Despite being a savvy home inspector of 25 years, I moved in with my girlfriend 9 years ago and of course it occursory inspection way before we got serious for a single mom and her kids :-). Found zero wrong and I am extremely adapted finding mold issues. However, nobody on this planet can find hidden mold issues when there's not an obvious moisture intrusion point or poor drainage etc. Topographically, we're very low in a valley so the relative humidity is higher and I think I've discovered what ails much of this country. And that is mold growth due to condensation and exterior wall cavities. Certainly on heat pump heat exchanger fins. 95% of the time in my experience. But hidden mold ... We had to hire a guy who had a dog that he trained and the dog found some of it. Anyway, that will make you much crazier but I bring it up because after years of doing this my stepson one day looked at me during a particularly frustrating situation and said "oooooo I WANNA COMMIT ARSON!!!!" 😂😂😂😅😅😅.
I died laughing for a while and he ended up laughing too :-)
So I'm sure it doesn't make you feel any better but, by comparison, a deck isn't so bad. But I do have to admit that I find it unbelievably frustrating to see people selling all kinds of outdoor cedar furniture and shutters with these beautiful amazing stains on them and everything I do looks like crap. Some of it looks okay but in comparison it looks like crap. I have recently noticed that true Western cedar has more consistent coloring in it and that does seem to make a difference. The pieces that I have that have a lot of white in them and then have substantial red in them are very difficult to get a good looking stain on. So I think that matters quite a bit.
Anyway, best of luck brother! 👍👍
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So the study they were not able to reproduce it, they were able to cite other reasons for specific failures previously siding glaze as the cause and yet you hang onto the notion of milk glaze being a thing why?
Interesting 👏 🧐
Thank you