I think that most Christians are Oneness but don't realize it. Once the trinity vs Oneness is explained, most would agree with the latter. People are just so afraid of being labeled a "heretic". We are so blessed by Dr. Bernard's scholarism.
I do not fully agree with this argument. For most Trinitarians, the Lord Jesus, at least it seems, is somewhat lesser than God, the Father. On the contrary, to my understanding, Jesus being the Father, God Himself is the core of the Oneness teachings. No one has ever held a three-person god belief during the era of the New Testament, even apostle Paul Himself - it would be utterly ridiculous for a devout pharisee to obey someone lesser than God or demigods alike. The Trinity doctrine is even the root cause of much evil throughout the human history.
@@weber8219 - how you are describing the Trinity- is perhaps found in heterodoxy - but it is foreign to the fronema (mindset) of the Orthodox Church. When you say ‘lesser’ - that Christ God is viewed as lesser… this is precisely against the Faith - AND - Sts Basil the Great, John Chrysostom, and Gregory the Theologian - were fighting against the heresy of Arianism who made Christ out to be a created being , and angel which is likened to modern day JWs…. Christ God is fully God and Fully Man… I think your assertion of no one believed like such and such - is unsupportable and inaccurate. Trust you’re well. Lovingly, Cuthbert.
Bro. Bernard thank you so much for this resource! I don’t know how you plan and schedule your content, but I’d be very interested in hearing some teaching or guidance around the Nephilim/giants mentioned in the book of Genesis. It’s such an obscure thing and not really foundational to living an apostolic life today but it would be great to hear you tackle scripture/topics that are often skipped over becuase its difficult to explain or there isn’t a lot of context given in the Bible! Thank you!
I really appreciated this video. I have a significant amount of theological education. I'm familiar with Barth. I was raised trinitarian Pentecostal but in the last year and a half I've been in a UPCI church. This discussion was very helpful.
Thank you, Bro Bernard for your excellent presentation. I have, in the past, read segments of Karl Barth's works with some respect, but your presentation was so well expressed.
Tremendously interesting discussion, I have always shunned any of the Theologians from the Reformed Church as they were usually critical of Biblical Theology and the Bible itself. This has opened my eyes to a wider field of information. Thank you.
I don't have a problem with trinity believers who say that they have the same consioussness but when you start to believe there are 3 seperate beings each with their own consioussness, will and personality, then there's a problem. I also don't care for the title "trinity" it leads to way too much confusion.
Coming out of the belief in the Trinity 39 years ago makes me greatful daily for coming out of the many errors of its false teachings. Simple: Jesus is the express image of the invisible God. Jesus ... Jehovah has become our salvation.
@charlestiraco8634 Well, my friend, you're free to choose to believe whatever you like,inpite of how wrong your interpretation is. Jesus is God, and Jesus is the one on the one throne. But thanks for your input... if you would spend more time studying scripture from the Old Testament to the New Testament, you would discover infallible proof that Jesus is God. The book of Revelation reveals who Jesus Christ is. You're coming up with your own understanding and interpretations, which is your biggest error. Considering your own statement that "YOU DO NOT BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD." It's the very reason you don't see the truth of scriptiure! It's your lack of faith that blinds you. Blessing to you, and I pray that Jesus reveals to you who he truly is.
I would love to hear Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s opinion on the American expressions of the Faith - to include the UPCI. I read his Cost of Discipleship book years ago - and I found it profoundly deep and it stands against all the bruh-ha-ha stuff happening in modernity and seeker friendly practices.
I would like to see some of the “oneness” Trinitarians have an open debate with Dr. Bernard or any others, or heck even an open discussion about this. Maybe like a Dr. Michael Brown, especially since he is charismatic and see how close him and Bernard agree with each other.
It is so funny you say this bc I am a big fan of Dr. Michael Brown and want him to do an interview with Dr. Bernard. I don't know how to communicate this to them, though.
@@MissMonotheist me too! I always watch and keep up with Dr.Brown. It’s crazy he does line up with us so much tbh. Heck, he made a whole video called “God is not more than one person” lol
How do we approach Trinitarians that are not necessarily from the educated community but rather have a deep entrenched belief of it through upbringings, being taught from pastors and teachers etc?
Praise the Lord Dr Bernard I'm an apostolic myself baptizing 81 my question is when Sarah told Abraham that he should take😊 Hagar so they could have a child. So when Isaac was born Sarah wanted the Egyptian woman cast out but Abraham you know he didn't want to because he was Grievous but GOD told Abraham to obey his wife Hagar wasn't at fault that all this mess happened that she conceived Ishmael even though God forgave Abraham and Sarah so she was cast out and we know the story that God was going to bless Ishmael and his mother took an Egyptian wife knowing that you know Egyptian people believe in idols why did God bless Ishmael what nations came out of Ishmael are they Christian nations now or that's my question.
A common trope used against those who hold a Oneness position is that adherents believe the uni-personal YHWH essentially wears a different “mask” to represent each revelation throughout scripture. In other words, when YHWH wants to be the Father, He wears the Father mask, when it’s time to be the Son, it’s the Son mask, or the Spirit mask and so on. Like I said, it’s a trope meant to demean the position. But it’s interesting to note that the opposite seems true for the trinitarian position. Rather than the uni-personal divine person YHWH peering through the eyes of His various masks, it’s any one of the three divine persons peering through a single YHWH mask. So, apparently any given reference to YHWH throughout scripture could actually be any one of the three divine persons, it just depends on the setting or context or, and most importantly, the effort to shore up the doctrine of the preexistent Son . If I’m wrong about this, someone please explain.
“Person” is a theological term that doesn’t mean individual. It’s complicated and you need to understand the Greek philosophy of the time to properly define “person” theologically. There are very subtle differences between modern oneness and Nicean trinitarianism.
Probably because you haven’t actually heard what the Dogma of the Trinity states - than what you have been told the Trinity is… not once has Dr Bernard actually stated what was formulated in the Council of Nicea… or as it is stated in the Constantinople Creed, which is part of every Orthodox Christian’s prayer life… and is sung in every Divine Liturgy. What Oneness Pentecostals assert as ‘the Trinity’ - is NOT what the Church has accepted AND preserved throughout all the Ages.
@@isaacsandoval9316There is no scripture in the bible that says God consists of 3 persons. However there is a scripture that says Jesus Christ was made in the express image of God’s person, which is singular: Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; This scripture is talking bout the flesh of Jesus, not a separate person sitting next to “God the Father” in heaven. The Flesh overcame because he was filled with the Spirit of God. To be at the right hand means to have all power, not physically be seated next to something. That’s what it means in the original language it was written in. God’s word must not have anything added to it, and we add to it by saying he is 3 in 1 persons. This is not scripture.
@@hayleyclements1737 - the doctrine of the Trinity - that was brought before the Council of Nicea - and was ultimately dogmatized in subsequent Councils … specifically addressed the heresy of Arianism - which attempted to lessen Church’s teaching concerning Jesus Christ… Jesus is Fully Man - AND - Fully God… the Arian controversy was making Christ God out to be a ‘created being’ and likened him to an angel. No one then, and no Orthodox Christians believe in a teaching as Oneness Pentecostals purport as the Holy Trinity. Perhaps a study of Sts John Chrysostom, Gregory the Theologian, and Basil the Great - their commentary harshly rebukes modern day JWs teachings and completely defends Jesus Christ is God - of One Essence AND Undivided … Light from Light, very God of very God. Most of what you have been indoctrinated to think is ‘Trinitarianism’ - is completely foreign to the True Church - and has never been part of the teachings and traditions of the Ancient and Unbroken Church. The Constantinople Creed succinctly breaks down the teachings and understanding of who Christ God is… God with Us.
use the biblical word, Majesty, as stated in book of Hebrews, also stated in the definition of Elohim of old hebrew , a plurality of majesty, yet only one God,🙏🙏
That is not what Elohim means. When the Hebrew word Elohim is used and the verb before is singular Elohim is singular. It is plural as in the fact it can refer to angels, and other deities. Exodus 7:1 KJVS And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (Elohim)to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Here God uses the word for Moses. You can find the same use for others. It can refer to the Supreme God, or angels, or other gods, but it is not referring to them as a plurality.
I didn’t really intend to listen to this video, but I’m glad that I did. I am curious how those who hold to the oneness view reconcile it with those who hold to the Trinitarian view with regard to the transfiguration, as well as the baptism of Jesus, when the Holy Spirit was represented in the form of the dove and God the father‘s voice was heard.
Can you speak about the biblical emphasis on One God and the expression of God in Christ but continued distinctions between God and the Word (John 1:1: the Word was with God) and three that bear witness in heaven (1 John 5:7: the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost) and the fullness of the Godhead in the body of Jesus Christ (Colossians 2:9). Thanks!
There’s a world of difference between what Barth is saying and what you all are saying. Barth is not saying that the God of Israel takes the form of the Son, the Father, and the Spirit. All He is saying is that the “Son of God” can be a stand in for all the other members of the Trinity, not ontologically but in representation.
God prophesied in Is 28:14-15 the Romans would create a falsehood and lies and hide themselves within it. No, this chapter is not about the Assyrians coming and taking the Jews captive. Assyrians cannot be the diadem, and they cannot teach God's precepts. This prophecy is where he chose to use speaking in tongues when one is filled with the Holy Ghost. Assyrians cannot do that either.
All Trinitarians believe Jesus is God. If you want to honestly and intellectually criticize Trinitarians show Barth saying that Jesus is the father incarnate. We are not Arians. We don't believe in subordination.
The teaching of the trinity teaches subordination. I heard when I was in the trinitarian churches. Jesus is God , but he is not the Father, the Father is God , but He is not the Son, and the Holy Spirit is God, but He is not the Father or the Son is another teaching. And yes it changes from church to church. Not very well thought out. One God The Greek word Kai is translated as and, it is John 17:11 in the Greek text. I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. Jesus = YHVH Even or that is. The word And does not mean another person. Matt 28:19 says NAME singular which is Jesus. All you have to do is read through acts and notice when they mentioned baptism. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God, the King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the High Priest. And you believe that, but you don’t believe that One God can be all of that and more. Isaiah 44:6-8 KJVS [6] Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. Revelation 1:7-8 KJVS [7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. There can’t be two first and last. Isaiah 9:6 KJVS [6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Why is Jesus called / Identified as the Mighty God, and the everlasting Father? 1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS [16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. God put on flesh, and became as a man. Colossians 2:8-9 KJVS [8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jude 1:25 KJVS [25] To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. All that God is resides in the Body of Jesus. Acts 20:28 (NKJV) 28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. God is Spirit. How does a Spirit have blood? There is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. So God produced a human body to be sacrificed for the payment of sin for all. Well over 300 times the singular pronoun is used when speaking of God. The Greek Τριάδα is translated trinity. Not once is it used by the Apostles, nor of the OT writers. The OT is clear that ONE God was taught, then after the Apostles died He changed His mind? Mark 12:29 KJVS And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Zechariah 12:10 (KJV) 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Who was pierced? Zechariah 14:9 (NKJV) 9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be- “The LORD is one,” And His name one. John 20:26-28 (KJV) 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 14:21 KJVS He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. The ONE GOD comes by revelation as you seek to Know Him instead of your own understanding. Mark 12:32 KJVS And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: Notice the pronoun He not them. Jewish religion only taught strict monotheism. Trinity is not monotheism.
At 6.00 minutes we all agree it is bringing it all around to Christ. Stop there no need for argument……. ( but ) here is where it all goes wrong the oneness point of view now Denies the trinity point of view of father son and Holy Ghost. There is the problem the denial of someone who believes in the father son and Holy Ghost. And saying that there baptism is not right. But if they under stood there is no contradiction in scripture Jesus said baptize in the name of father son and Holy Ghost. Peter said Jesus name. There is no difference but when you deny peoples baptism there is the problem.
Which " god" Jesus revelead? In your theory it means that Jesus revealed himself. Where is Elohim YHWH in your theory, the fellowship of Holy Father, Holy Son and Holy Spirit.
See here’s the thing Jesus directly claims to be YHWH He also claims to be the Holy Spirit And further more just to put the cherry on top. Who is Jesus biological father according to the gospels?
One God The Greek word Kai is translated as and, it is John 17:11 in the Greek text. I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. Jesus = YHVH Even or that is. The word And does not mean another person. Matt 28:19 says NAME singular which is Jesus. All you have to do is read through acts and notice when they mentioned baptism. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God, the King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the High Priest. And you believe that, but you don’t believe that One God can be all of that and more. Isaiah 44:6-8 KJVS [6] Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. Revelation 1:7-8 KJVS [7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. There can’t be two first and last. Isaiah 9:6 KJVS [6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Why is Jesus called / Identified as the Mighty God, and the everlasting Father? 1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS [16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. God put on flesh, and became as a man. Colossians 2:8-9 KJVS [8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jude 1:25 KJVS [25] To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. All that God is resides in the Body of Jesus. Acts 20:28 (NKJV) 28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. God is Spirit. How does a Spirit have blood? There is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. So God produced a human body to be sacrificed for the payment of sin for all. Well over 300 times the singular pronoun is used when speaking of God. The Greek Τριάδα is translated trinity. Not once is it used by the Apostles, nor of the OT writers. The OT is clear that ONE God was taught, then after the Apostles died He changed His mind? Mark 12:29 KJVS And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Zechariah 12:10 (KJV) 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Who was pierced? Zechariah 14:9 (NKJV) 9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be- “The LORD is one,” And His name one. John 20:26-28 (KJV) 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 14:21 KJVS He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. The ONE GOD comes by revelation as you seek to Know Him instead of your own understanding. Mark 12:32 KJVS And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: Notice the pronoun He not them. Jewish religion only taught strict monotheism. Trinity is not monotheism. The word Elohim is not the name of God, it’s a word that can refer to angels, or powerful men… Exodus 7:1 KJVS And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (Elohim) to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. It is plural in use as in applied to various ways but singular in person.
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I think that most Christians are Oneness but don't realize it. Once the trinity vs Oneness is explained, most would agree with the latter. People are just so afraid of being labeled a "heretic". We are so blessed by Dr. Bernard's scholarism.
I agree
It's only divisive when they try to explain their differences on paper.
James White said if you ask people coming out of the Church, (being trinitarian of course) to explain the trinity, they would explain oneness.
I do not fully agree with this argument. For most Trinitarians, the Lord Jesus, at least it seems, is somewhat lesser than God, the Father. On the contrary, to my understanding, Jesus being the Father, God Himself is the core of the Oneness teachings. No one has ever held a three-person god belief during the era of the New Testament, even apostle Paul Himself - it would be utterly ridiculous for a devout pharisee to obey someone lesser than God or demigods alike. The Trinity doctrine is even the root cause of much evil throughout the human history.
@@weber8219 - how you are describing the Trinity- is perhaps found in heterodoxy - but it is foreign to the fronema (mindset) of the Orthodox Church. When you say ‘lesser’ - that Christ God is viewed as lesser… this is precisely against the Faith - AND - Sts Basil the Great, John Chrysostom, and Gregory the Theologian - were fighting against the heresy of Arianism who made Christ out to be a created being , and angel which is likened to modern day JWs…. Christ God is fully God and Fully Man… I think your assertion of no one believed like such and such - is unsupportable and inaccurate. Trust you’re well. Lovingly, Cuthbert.
The best disscusion i've heard on oneness and trinity... and I've heard Many.
Bro. Bernard thank you so much for this resource!
I don’t know how you plan and schedule your content, but I’d be very interested in hearing some teaching or guidance around the Nephilim/giants mentioned in the book of Genesis.
It’s such an obscure thing and not really foundational to living an apostolic life today but it would be great to hear you tackle scripture/topics that are often skipped over becuase its difficult to explain or there isn’t a lot of context given in the Bible!
Thank you!
I really appreciated this video. I have a significant amount of theological education. I'm familiar with Barth. I was raised trinitarian Pentecostal but in the last year and a half I've been in a UPCI church. This discussion was very helpful.
This just makes sense.. love this podcast.. answers so many biblical truths🙌
Thank you again Bro Bernard!!!! Powerful teaching
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Thank you Dr. Bernard. Oneness view, in my opinion is the ultimate revelation of God through Jesus Christ. Thanks to God for this revelation. 🙏
So well put. Jesus is the ultimate revelation. Praise Him!
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Thank you, Bro Bernard for your excellent presentation. I have, in the past, read segments of Karl Barth's works with some respect, but your presentation was so well expressed.
Please make one on William Branham and His connection and disconnection to UPCI
William Branham was a horrible teacher and a false prophet who still deceives many
Bro Bernard book on Church history vol 3 talks about branham under the sub headings "Post world healing revivalists"
Tremendously interesting discussion, I have always shunned any of the Theologians from the Reformed Church as they were usually critical of Biblical Theology and the Bible itself. This has opened my eyes to a wider field of information. Thank you.
There are but you just dont want to believe them the reason why i will not state them... charlestiraco8634
@@charlestiraco8634Thomas said, “My Lord and my God!” And Jesus accepted his worship.
Excellent discussion! Thank you for your work. Blessings in Jesus name.
I don't have a problem with trinity believers who say that they have the same consioussness but when you start to believe there are 3 seperate beings each with their own consioussness, will and personality, then there's a problem. I also don't care for the title "trinity" it leads to way too much confusion.
@@charlestiraco8634that’s called begging the question. The Oneness view is that God is one, 1=1.
Thank you Dr Bernard…
Yes, good, stay in the Word!!! Amen 🙏
Coming out of the belief in the Trinity 39 years ago makes me greatful daily for coming out of the many errors of its false teachings. Simple: Jesus is the express image of the invisible God. Jesus ... Jehovah has become our salvation.
@charlestiraco8634 Well, my friend, you're free to choose to believe whatever you like,inpite of how wrong your interpretation is. Jesus is God, and Jesus is the one on the one throne. But thanks for your input... if you would spend more time studying scripture from the Old Testament to the New Testament, you would discover infallible proof that Jesus is God. The book of Revelation reveals who Jesus Christ is. You're coming up with your own understanding and interpretations, which is your biggest error. Considering your own statement that "YOU DO NOT BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD." It's the very reason you don't see the truth of scriptiure! It's your lack of faith that blinds you. Blessing to you, and I pray that Jesus reveals to you who he truly is.
@@donaldperea7069 Well spoken.
I would love to hear your opinion on Dietrich Bonhoeffer!
I would love to hear Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s opinion on the American expressions of the Faith - to include the UPCI. I read his Cost of Discipleship book years ago - and I found it profoundly deep and it stands against all the bruh-ha-ha stuff happening in modernity and seeker friendly practices.
Awesome
I would like to see some of the “oneness” Trinitarians have an open debate with Dr. Bernard or any others, or heck even an open discussion about this. Maybe like a Dr. Michael Brown, especially since he is charismatic and see how close him and Bernard agree with each other.
It is so funny you say this bc I am a big fan of Dr. Michael Brown and want him to do an interview with Dr. Bernard. I don't know how to communicate this to them, though.
@@MissMonotheist me too! I always watch and keep up with Dr.Brown. It’s crazy he does line up with us so much tbh. Heck, he made a whole video called “God is not more than one person” lol
How do we approach Trinitarians that are not necessarily from the educated community but rather have a deep entrenched belief of it through upbringings, being taught from pastors and teachers etc?
I live in a liberal area and it seems that the community is mostly trinitarian
What did the apostles say in Acts about Jesus?
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Praise the Lord Dr Bernard I'm an apostolic myself baptizing 81 my question is when Sarah told Abraham that he should take😊 Hagar so they could have a child. So when Isaac was born Sarah wanted the Egyptian woman cast out but Abraham you know he didn't want to because he was Grievous but GOD told Abraham to obey his wife Hagar wasn't at fault that all this mess happened that she conceived Ishmael even though God forgave Abraham and Sarah so she was cast out and we know the story that God was going to bless Ishmael and his mother took an Egyptian wife knowing that you know Egyptian people believe in idols why did God bless Ishmael what nations came out of Ishmael are they Christian nations now or that's my question.
Has Dr. Bernard ever spoken about bad dreams or nightmares or unwanted dreams ?
Look through the video list. He may have.
Sir i have a question on Ministers is it wrong to have a wife who is working woman ( employee)
Can any one help to my question
A common trope used against those who hold a Oneness position is that adherents believe the uni-personal YHWH essentially wears a different “mask” to represent each revelation throughout scripture. In other words, when YHWH wants to be the Father, He wears the Father mask, when it’s time to be the Son, it’s the Son mask, or the Spirit mask and so on. Like I said, it’s a trope meant to demean the position.
But it’s interesting to note that the opposite seems true for the trinitarian position. Rather than the uni-personal divine person YHWH peering through the eyes of His various masks, it’s any one of the three divine persons peering through a single YHWH mask. So, apparently any given reference to YHWH throughout scripture could actually be any one of the three divine persons, it just depends on the setting or context or, and most importantly, the effort to shore up the doctrine of the preexistent Son . If I’m wrong about this, someone please explain.
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¿Hermano Bernard que quiere decir que la iglesia es universal y que también es local?
I still can’t wrap my head around, Why people insist in saying there is 1 God and 3 persons? Just saying it, doesn’t make sense.
“Person” is a theological term that doesn’t mean individual. It’s complicated and you need to understand the Greek philosophy of the time to properly define “person” theologically. There are very subtle differences between modern oneness and Nicean trinitarianism.
Person does not refer to being in theology. There is one being who is god that consists of 3 persons.
Probably because you haven’t actually heard what the Dogma of the Trinity states - than what you have been told the Trinity is… not once has Dr Bernard actually stated what was formulated in the Council of Nicea… or as it is stated in the Constantinople Creed, which is part of every Orthodox Christian’s prayer life… and is sung in every Divine Liturgy. What Oneness Pentecostals assert as ‘the Trinity’ - is NOT what the Church has accepted AND preserved throughout all the Ages.
@@isaacsandoval9316There is no scripture in the bible that says God consists of 3 persons.
However there is a scripture that says Jesus Christ was made in the express image of God’s person, which is singular:
Hebrews 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
This scripture is talking bout the flesh of Jesus, not a separate person sitting next to “God the Father” in heaven. The Flesh overcame because he was filled with the Spirit of God. To be at the right hand means to have all power, not physically be seated next to something. That’s what it means in the original language it was written in.
God’s word must not have anything added to it, and we add to it by saying he is 3 in 1 persons. This is not scripture.
@@hayleyclements1737 - the doctrine of the Trinity - that was brought before the Council of Nicea - and was ultimately dogmatized in subsequent Councils … specifically addressed the heresy of Arianism - which attempted to lessen Church’s teaching concerning Jesus Christ… Jesus is Fully Man - AND - Fully God… the Arian controversy was making Christ God out to be a ‘created being’ and likened him to an angel. No one then, and no Orthodox Christians believe in a teaching as Oneness Pentecostals purport as the Holy Trinity. Perhaps a study of Sts John Chrysostom, Gregory the Theologian, and Basil the Great - their commentary harshly rebukes modern day JWs teachings and completely defends Jesus Christ is God - of One Essence AND Undivided … Light from Light, very God of very God. Most of what you have been indoctrinated to think is ‘Trinitarianism’ - is completely foreign to the True Church - and has never been part of the teachings and traditions of the Ancient and Unbroken Church. The Constantinople Creed succinctly breaks down the teachings and understanding of who Christ God is… God with Us.
Jesus is the phyisical representation of God the father
use the biblical word, Majesty, as stated in book of Hebrews, also stated in the definition of Elohim of old hebrew , a plurality of majesty, yet only one God,🙏🙏
That is not what Elohim means. When the Hebrew word Elohim is used and the verb before is singular Elohim is singular. It is plural as in the fact it can refer to angels, and other deities. Exodus 7:1 KJVS
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (Elohim)to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Here God uses the word for Moses. You can find the same use for others. It can refer to the Supreme God, or angels, or other gods, but it is not referring to them as a plurality.
I didn’t really intend to listen to this video, but I’m glad that I did. I am curious how those who hold to the oneness view reconcile it with those who hold to the Trinitarian view with regard to the transfiguration, as well as the baptism of Jesus, when the Holy Spirit was represented in the form of the dove and God the father‘s voice was heard.
See Episode 8 "Is the Baptism of Jesus Evidence for the Trinity?" (ruclips.net/video/CU0P3awcikw/видео.html) - Podcast Production Team
@justin Does God have the power to cause His voice to be heard from above? God is Spirit and His Spirit is Holy. Is His Spirit a Dove?
Can you speak about the biblical emphasis on One God and the expression of God in Christ but continued distinctions between God and the Word (John 1:1: the Word was with God) and three that bear witness in heaven (1 John 5:7: the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost) and the fullness of the Godhead in the body of Jesus Christ (Colossians 2:9). Thanks!
There’s a world of difference between what Barth is saying and what you all are saying. Barth is not saying that the God of Israel takes the form of the Son, the Father, and the Spirit. All He is saying is that the “Son of God” can be a stand in for all the other members of the Trinity, not ontologically but in representation.
God prophesied in Is 28:14-15 the Romans would create a falsehood and lies and hide themselves within it. No, this chapter is not about the Assyrians coming and taking the Jews captive. Assyrians cannot be the diadem, and they cannot teach God's precepts. This prophecy is where he chose to use speaking in tongues when one is filled with the Holy Ghost. Assyrians cannot do that either.
All Trinitarians believe Jesus is God. If you want to honestly and intellectually criticize Trinitarians show Barth saying that Jesus is the father incarnate. We are not Arians. We don't believe in subordination.
Why do we need Barth to show you. It’s in the Bible, The Son clearly says the Father dwelleth in him and that he speaks and does the works.
The teaching of the trinity teaches subordination. I heard when I was in the trinitarian churches. Jesus is God , but he is not the Father, the Father is God , but He is not the Son, and the Holy Spirit is God, but He is not the Father or the Son is another teaching. And yes it changes from church to church. Not very well thought out. One God
The Greek word Kai is translated as and, it is John 17:11 in the Greek text.
I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.
Jesus = YHVH
Even or that is. The word And does not mean another person. Matt 28:19 says NAME singular which is Jesus. All you have to do is read through acts and notice when they mentioned baptism. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God, the King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the High Priest. And you believe that, but you don’t believe that One God can be all of that and more.
Isaiah 44:6-8 KJVS
[6] Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Revelation 1:7-8 KJVS
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
There can’t be two first and last.
Isaiah 9:6 KJVS
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Why is Jesus called / Identified as the Mighty God, and the everlasting Father?
1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS
[16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
God put on flesh, and became as a man.
Colossians 2:8-9 KJVS
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jude 1:25 KJVS
[25] To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
All that God is resides in the Body of Jesus.
Acts 20:28 (NKJV) 28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.
God is Spirit. How does a Spirit have blood? There is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood.
So God produced a human body to be sacrificed for the payment of sin for all.
Well over 300 times the singular pronoun is used when speaking of God. The Greek Τριάδα is translated trinity. Not once is it used by the Apostles, nor of the OT writers. The OT is clear that ONE God was taught, then after the Apostles died He changed His mind?
Mark 12:29 KJVS
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Zechariah 12:10 (KJV) 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem,
the spirit of grace and of supplications:
and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced,
and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son,
and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Who was pierced?
Zechariah 14:9 (NKJV) 9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be-
“The LORD is one,” And His name one.
John 20:26-28 (KJV) 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
John 14:21 KJVS
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
The ONE GOD comes by revelation as you seek to Know Him instead of your own understanding.
Mark 12:32 KJVS
And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Notice the pronoun He not them. Jewish religion only taught strict monotheism. Trinity is not monotheism.
You are criticized by some because many trinitarians have different explanations. Some without realizing explain oneness.
At 6.00 minutes we all agree it is bringing it all around to Christ. Stop there no need for argument……. ( but ) here is where it all goes wrong the oneness point of view now Denies the trinity point of view of father son and Holy Ghost. There is the problem the denial of someone who believes in the father son and Holy Ghost. And saying that there baptism is not right. But if they under stood there is no contradiction in scripture Jesus said baptize in the name of father son and Holy Ghost. Peter said Jesus name. There is no difference but when you deny peoples baptism there is the problem.
Which " god" Jesus revelead? In your theory it means that Jesus revealed himself. Where is Elohim YHWH in your theory, the fellowship of Holy Father, Holy Son and Holy Spirit.
See here’s the thing Jesus directly claims to be YHWH
He also claims to be the Holy Spirit
And further more just to put the cherry on top. Who is Jesus biological father according to the gospels?
One God
The Greek word Kai is translated as and, it is John 17:11 in the Greek text.
I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.
Jesus = YHVH
Even or that is. The word And does not mean another person. Matt 28:19 says NAME singular which is Jesus. All you have to do is read through acts and notice when they mentioned baptism. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God, the King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the High Priest. And you believe that, but you don’t believe that One God can be all of that and more.
Isaiah 44:6-8 KJVS
[6] Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Revelation 1:7-8 KJVS
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
There can’t be two first and last.
Isaiah 9:6 KJVS
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Why is Jesus called / Identified as the Mighty God, and the everlasting Father?
1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS
[16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
God put on flesh, and became as a man.
Colossians 2:8-9 KJVS
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jude 1:25 KJVS
[25] To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
All that God is resides in the Body of Jesus.
Acts 20:28 (NKJV) 28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.
God is Spirit. How does a Spirit have blood? There is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood.
So God produced a human body to be sacrificed for the payment of sin for all.
Well over 300 times the singular pronoun is used when speaking of God. The Greek Τριάδα is translated trinity. Not once is it used by the Apostles, nor of the OT writers. The OT is clear that ONE God was taught, then after the Apostles died He changed His mind?
Mark 12:29 KJVS
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Zechariah 12:10 (KJV) 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem,
the spirit of grace and of supplications:
and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced,
and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son,
and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Who was pierced?
Zechariah 14:9 (NKJV) 9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be-
“The LORD is one,” And His name one.
John 20:26-28 (KJV) 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
John 14:21 KJVS
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
The ONE GOD comes by revelation as you seek to Know Him instead of your own understanding.
Mark 12:32 KJVS
And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Notice the pronoun He not them. Jewish religion only taught strict monotheism. Trinity is not monotheism.
The word Elohim is not the name of God, it’s a word that can refer to angels, or powerful men… Exodus 7:1 KJVS
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (Elohim) to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. It is plural in use as in applied to various ways but singular in person.