@@TheDiscriminatingGamer bro, wait till you get the expansions. Youve just scratched the surface. Tons of content here. And when playing 1v1, give the single board scenarios a try. Those add such unique element. Super intense. Also, dont be afraid to start with a tank or two, just to add a different element.
This is one of the few video game to board game adaptations that I prefer the board game. I like that I can see what my enemy is building and react a bit better. No more being mortared from behind the fog of war! This one is a top ten game for me because I can play it with my 8 year old son and he is ALWAYS excited to play! If your a fan of the video game this week is special because they announced Company of Heroes 3 for 2022. I really like this game and was super happy to see Cody's coverage.
I honestly love this game. The terrain packs and the elite commanders are must haves in my opinion. The 3d buildings allow you to hide units in them until they are in line of sight for enemy units so it actually changes tactics.
Fhuh ... lucky me, that I'm one of those "clean" germans 😌😀. I really do like your boardgame- and your history-channel. Thank you for the great content. Greetings from Kevelaer/Germany Dirk
I have all of Tide of Iron and love it like you. Can't find opponents and it doesn't solo. We seem to have the same taste in wargames so thanks for the recommendation.
How many hex games can one person have? I have: Memoir ‘44 The Great War C&C Napoleonics, C&C Ancients Fields of Despair Space Empires 4X Survive! Escape From Atlantis I thought I’d escaped them when I got Undaunted Normandy, but that ended up just being square hexagons! Also thinking of getting Twilight Imperium or Eclipse (any recommendations?) and now Company of Heroes!
Indeed. There are too many great games. TI4 and Eclipse are both fantastic. TI4 is my second favorite game of all time. It’s a much longer, more thematic game than Eclipse. Eclipse is really a Eurogame in disguise, with a few Amerigame elements. It’s a lot of fun too
TY for this interesting report Cody! I usually agree with 99% of your opinions so your opinion about a new game is always interesting to me. Although to be honest the only category of games that I'm going to question your opinion are those about WWII because you are such a big fan of this war that your rating may often be slightly too generous: Don't you think so? ;)
I do like a good WWII game, sure. But there are many other themes that I'm a pretty big fan of. I love a good Sci-fi space opera game, and I love Napoleonic era games. But I don't think my love of a certain theme would blind me to a game's shortcomings. At the end of the day, my opinion is all I really have to offer.
Could you imagine somehow combining Company of Heroes with War Room? At least for land battles. That would be the board game equivalent of marrying quantum mechanics with the theory of general relativity. Either way, your time would be affected.
Tide of Iron is what I thought about when I saw this game, which looks really good. Lol! Joke at the end was a good one! Just finished Rick Atkinsons An Army At Dawn, starting book II The Day of Battle.
Played this with a friend a few weeks ago who back the Kickstarter. We really enjoyed it. Looking forward to the Kickstarter to get in on it this time.
Cody, I’ve been eye balling this game for the last year and I can’t wait to get into the next Kickstarter as well! It’s one of the few games where I may buy the terrain packs for the game as well as they look so cool on the table! Do you know anything about when the Kickstarter is dropping? Thanks and take care!
If I can ask one more question, do you have any recommendations on what to get for the game. There's a ton of stuff, but I definitely don't need all of it.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer It did, but the manager opens and I'll finalize then. Just trying to see what's over kill and what 4 players really need for the game.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer I'm down for the 4 player set atm just waiting for the upcoming all-in option. I also went to their store to grab the world builder expansion because the summer/winter map boards included with it are now discontinued and not included in 2.0. So you may want to pick 1 or 2 up if you want those maps before they're gone.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer You seemed like you liked the game in your review, has anything changed since then, do you find the game not as fun anymore or would you still rate it highly? I'm thinking about backing it on kickstarter but haven't made my mind up yet
@@malachor5ve LoL! The OP mentioned his preference for "hex and counter" wargames, which is the typical format for almost all classic wargames, and was the only format ever used for many decades. Essentially, movement on the map is regulated by hexagon-shaped spaces, and units, leaders, vehicles, etc, are represented on the map by cardboard counters. Hence the term, "Hex and Counter" wargame. A key thing to know about the counters is that each counter serves to show information about the unit/leader/vehicles/etc depicted. This information typically includes ratings for attack, defense, strength, health, movement allowance, etc, etc. So, what I meant by my earlier comment is that CoH also uses hexes, and... It also has components which substitute for the well-known counters! Specifically, instead of counters, it uses minis to represent what it is, number of minis to represent strength, and dice to represent other factors which would also be found showing on a cardboard counter. So, while this game doesn't use cardboard counters, it uses substitute components which show all the exact same information which cardboard counters would show.
So for your 2 vs 2 game, which Allied faction joined the Axis side? (For those who don't know, the four player version of the game comes with three Allied factions and one German (Axis) faction). And given your passion for WWII history, was this an issue regarding your enjoyment of the game?
We played British and Americans vs Soviets and Nazis. Didn't hurt my enjoyment one bit. I know for a lot of people, wargames are the primary way people engage with history, and they want them to be as historically accurate as possible. For me, it's just a game, and I can have fun with it even if we fudge history a little bit here and there.
I've only played four player once, and it was about two hours. Although that was our first game and we were learning it. I imagine it would be much faster now.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer That's great. I keep hearing it takes 6-8 hours to play and I just don't see that being possible unless they're playing really high vp matches
Almost went with a thumbs down just for the Dad joke, lol 😉 Any thoughts on solo play? Would you buy it just for solo? Just made it to the end, two Dad jokes!
They actually have a solo/ coop expansion for the game that works pretty well. The only issue one might have is it only is the German factions that can be the npcs.
I went all in on it. Honest to God, its my favorite WW2 board game. It's just that good.
It really is a lot of fun.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer bro, wait till you get the expansions. Youve just scratched the surface. Tons of content here. And when playing 1v1, give the single board scenarios a try. Those add such unique element. Super intense. Also, dont be afraid to start with a tank or two, just to add a different element.
This is one of the few video game to board game adaptations that I prefer the board game. I like that I can see what my enemy is building and react a bit better. No more being mortared from behind the fog of war! This one is a top ten game for me because I can play it with my 8 year old son and he is ALWAYS excited to play! If your a fan of the video game this week is special because they announced Company of Heroes 3 for 2022. I really like this game and was super happy to see Cody's coverage.
Indeed! Fantastic game!
I honestly love this game. The terrain packs and the elite commanders are must haves in my opinion. The 3d buildings allow you to hide units in them until they are in line of sight for enemy units so it actually changes tactics.
That's awesome!
Got the whole thing in a war crate and haven’t tried it yet! This review is making me stoked to play it!!
Fantastic. Happy to help.
There is a sale on steam til 7/20/21 for the pc games. Check them out!
Excellent.
Quickly turned into one of the best board games i have ever played
Indeed!
I agree - this is a great game. I have the all-in "World Domination" pledge and my friends and I all love it.
Indeed!
I was a Hero when I worked at an Aluminum Company....
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I would always foil the bad bosses' plans.
First Rate!
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😁👍
Fhuh ... lucky me, that I'm one of those "clean" germans 😌😀. I really do like your boardgame- and your history-channel. Thank you for the great content.
Greetings from Kevelaer/Germany
Dirk
Arbeite in kevelaer. Haha
Ha! Thanks! I appreciate it. I studied in Berlin in 2005 and 2008 and got see some more of your lovely country. I love Germany!
@@kaaasmaakehaake8296 Wie ich schon immer sage: Die Welt is'n Dorf ... 👍
I was in that shop a month ago. Very impressive!
Great store.
I have all of Tide of Iron and love it like you. Can't find opponents and it doesn't solo. We seem to have the same taste in wargames so thanks for the recommendation.
Happy to help!
How many hex games can one person have?
I have:
Memoir ‘44
The Great War
C&C Napoleonics,
C&C Ancients
Fields of Despair
Space Empires 4X
Survive! Escape From Atlantis
I thought I’d escaped them when I got Undaunted Normandy, but that ended up just being square hexagons!
Also thinking of getting Twilight Imperium or Eclipse (any recommendations?) and now Company of Heroes!
Indeed. There are too many great games. TI4 and Eclipse are both fantastic. TI4 is my second favorite game of all time. It’s a much longer, more thematic game than Eclipse. Eclipse is really a Eurogame in disguise, with a few Amerigame elements. It’s a lot of fun too
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer thank you! I was leaning towards TI4
I dont want it to kill my beloved Memoir ‘44...
Memoir '44 is a great game, but it is very different from COH, except for the theme.
Which game system do you prefer between Heroes of Stalingrad/Normandie and CoH?
"5 points from Slytherin for that joke, Dr. Carlson." - Col. Dumbledore
You are using words I’m unfamiliar with. But thanks, I think.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer Ha! I'll bet you have a Harry Potter poster in your office, don't you?
@@fenirob Never read a HP book or seen a movie. Not my cup of tea.
TY for this interesting report Cody! I usually agree with 99% of your opinions so your opinion about a new game is always interesting to me. Although to be honest the only category of games that I'm going to question your opinion are those about WWII because you are such a big fan of this war that your rating may often be slightly too generous: Don't you think so? ;)
I do like a good WWII game, sure. But there are many other themes that I'm a pretty big fan of. I love a good Sci-fi space opera game, and I love Napoleonic era games. But I don't think my love of a certain theme would blind me to a game's shortcomings. At the end of the day, my opinion is all I really have to offer.
Could you imagine somehow combining Company of Heroes with War Room? At least for land battles. That would be the board game equivalent of marrying quantum mechanics with the theory of general relativity. Either way, your time would be affected.
Indeed. I used to dream up playing Star Wars Armada, but everything fighters engaged, switching to Star Wars X-Wing.
This is a tabletop minis game masquerading as a board game. Great game.
Indeed/
Tide of Iron is what I thought about when I saw this game, which looks really good. Lol! Joke at the end was a good one! Just finished Rick Atkinsons An Army At Dawn, starting book II The Day of Battle.
Day of Battle was like the Bible for the Mark Clark chapter of my dissertation.
Hey Cody, do you prefer the basic rules, advanced rules or do you use a hybrid as some people do?
Hybrid. It’s a matter of choice.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer
Are there any advanced rules you would consider a mandatory add-on that you wouldn't play the game without?
@@SeanUCF Its been a little while since I played it, so I’d have to really think about that one.
Played this with a friend a few weeks ago who back the Kickstarter. We really enjoyed it. Looking forward to the Kickstarter to get in on it this time.
Indeed. Great game!
Hi Cody.
Second edition is coming to KS.
Fantastic!
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer scheize =(
Cody, I’ve been eye balling this game for the last year and I can’t wait to get into the next Kickstarter as well! It’s one of the few games where I may buy the terrain packs for the game as well as they look so cool on the table! Do you know anything about when the Kickstarter is dropping? Thanks and take care!
Unfortunately, I don't know when it will drop. However, stay tuned to the channel as there is more CoH goodies coming soon!
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer great to hear! I watch a good amount of your videos so I’ll definitely be keeping an eye out!
If I can ask one more question, do you have any recommendations on what to get for the game. There's a ton of stuff, but I definitely don't need all of it.
Is the KS still up? I thought it closed today? I've got the core stuff, so I did the veterans tier.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer It did, but the manager opens and I'll finalize then. Just trying to see what's over kill and what 4 players really need for the game.
Thanks for your time.
I love the PC games but when I saw this on KS for the first time it was naaah. Now you made me regret it ;)
It's a hecka lotta fun!
1.5 edition KS is in the works
Did you play with both first and second edition?
I heard that the second edition is a lot better.
I pledged for 2nd Edition but have not yet received it.
2nd edition kickstarter up now. Are you getting the upgrade kit & new expansions?
We’ll see.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer I'm down for the 4 player set atm just waiting for the upcoming all-in option. I also went to their store to grab the world builder expansion because the summer/winter map boards included with it are now discontinued and not included in 2.0. So you may want to pick 1 or 2 up if you want those maps before they're gone.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer You seemed like you liked the game in your review, has anything changed since then, do you find the game not as fun anymore or would you still rate it highly? I'm thinking about backing it on kickstarter but haven't made my mind up yet
@@malachor5ve Actually, I just recently decided to back. The game is that good.
How long does it take to finish a game 1v1 and 2v2???
60/90 minutes roughly.
Just wondering have you review Black Rose?
I have not.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer any chance you might review in the future. I think it game you might like. It Wildlands on steroids....
@@stevensum2011 No plans to right now. Maybe down the line.
How feasible is to play solo using the normal rules by switching sides. I'm no great fan of official solo modes. Thanks
I guess it’s possible. Don’t know that there’s a real hidden info angle.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer thanks.
Thanks for the review - considering the price point I I gave it a pass, prefer my hex and counter wargames😁
To each their own. Too bad. This one is a lot of fun.
Well, this game uses hexes too! And it has counters also... they just don't look like the ones you're talking about. :)
@@bgm-1961 I'm new to wargaming, what do you mean exactly by it has counters too just not the ones he was talking about?
@@malachor5ve LoL! The OP mentioned his preference for "hex and counter" wargames, which is the typical format for almost all classic wargames, and was the only format ever used for many decades. Essentially, movement on the map is regulated by hexagon-shaped spaces, and units, leaders, vehicles, etc, are represented on the map by cardboard counters. Hence the term, "Hex and Counter" wargame. A key thing to know about the counters is that each counter serves to show information about the unit/leader/vehicles/etc depicted. This information typically includes ratings for attack, defense, strength, health, movement allowance, etc, etc.
So, what I meant by my earlier comment is that CoH also uses hexes, and...
It also has components which substitute for the well-known counters! Specifically, instead of counters, it uses minis to represent what it is, number of minis to represent strength, and dice to represent other factors which would also be found showing on a cardboard counter. So, while this game doesn't use cardboard counters, it uses substitute components which show all the exact same information which cardboard counters would show.
@@bgm-1961 Ok cool thank you for the good explanation
So for your 2 vs 2 game, which Allied faction joined the Axis side?
(For those who don't know, the four player version of the game comes with three Allied factions and one German (Axis) faction).
And given your passion for WWII history, was this an issue regarding your enjoyment of the game?
We played British and Americans vs Soviets and Nazis. Didn't hurt my enjoyment one bit. I know for a lot of people, wargames are the primary way people engage with history, and they want them to be as historically accurate as possible. For me, it's just a game, and I can have fun with it even if we fudge history a little bit here and there.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer Fair enough!
what scale are the tanks
Couldn’t tell you off the top of my head.
How long would you say a 4 player game is?
I've only played four player once, and it was about two hours. Although that was our first game and we were learning it. I imagine it would be much faster now.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer That's great. I keep hearing it takes 6-8 hours to play and I just don't see that being possible unless they're playing really high vp matches
@@randybookman Yeah. That's really weird.
The minis are too tiny and not very detailed.
It would have been better if they stuck to one of the scales already used in wargames.
I didn't have a problem with them. I thought the game looked and played great. To each their own.
Almost went with a thumbs down just for the Dad joke, lol 😉
Any thoughts on solo play? Would you buy it just for solo?
Just made it to the end, two Dad jokes!
"Almost"? I call that a win!
They actually have a solo/ coop expansion for the game that works pretty well. The only issue one might have is it only is the German factions that can be the npcs.
@@jaydenklein1654 Thanks Jayden!