I'm becoming convinced that Kuro went and saw a fortune teller a long time ago, who told him to take on a vtuber name that could be perfectly passed off when Granny Scuff keeps accidentally using it later.
I think she actually said "mister" with a British accent, but even if she was wrong, it could happen. Kson also carelessly called Henya "Pikamee" in a previous collaboration. Old habits are hard to break. It takes some time....
tbf, he's someone worthy of being called "Mister" before his name; must treat the man with the respect he deserves lol It's probable that things like this are gonna keep happening for a while, it is what it is I guess
This is probably the first time I've had a reincarnation of someone I watched, and ngl their new names still don't come to mind first. Especially kuro, I feel like mysta is just a better name (more memorable)
@@DinnerForkTongueI still find it hilarious that the three biggest Spanish-speaking Vtubers are a ghost, a demon, and an exorcist. (Reimu, Ironmouse, and Hakka)
One of the best things about VShojo is that the company really doesn't care about kayfabe or staying in character 24/7. The talent can be older, married, have kids, be of any gender and talk about their real life and identities as much as they want. It is a place to be yourself...and whatever "self" you want to be.
At least no one would overreact when these vtubers suddenly get a bf/gf unlike the fans from holo. I'm starting to unlike their fanbase (not the talents) since they kept forgetting that there are real humans behind these vtubers.
@@konaqua122why would anyone get involved with the fanbase to begin with? i just download pics from artists i like on twitter, give them a like and move on lmao
Matara is the only vtuber I've personally seen accidentally use their real name in a stream. She was talking about herself in the third person and it slipped 🤣
I just like the story that despite having collabed multiple times (even if we’re only considering this timeline as canon), Kuro still hasnt established with her his gender His gender of course being Mister
FYI she actually slipped in a previous stream when talking about Kuro & had decided that she'd use "mister" as a way to help break her old habit. This was the 1st time she intentionally tried it on Kuro in person but it stunned Kuro instead.
Matara can literally fall flat on her face and fall on a huge set piece bringing the whole place down live on stream and I would still should "YAS MOTHER SERVE"
She did her best to help avoid his slip and then without. skipping. a. beat. slipped herself. She said that withso much confidence it sounded intentional
@@tubeshut8118 I feel like it could be different when the identity is a "work identity", but for safety's sake, sticking to the handles is the best thing to do.
@@PokeballEX Or the time when Ironmouse streamed with DDK and used the wrong name. That one must be tricky because of how many people interact with both identities.
Idk about these two, but some Vtubers do use their online handles when they hang out. It does mean they could get recognized should they slip up in public, but that's much less of a risk than accidentally saying someone's real name on a stream for the whole world to hear. I doubt many of them even know the real names of each other, unless they were friends from the past.
I always wondered too and I think they do, based on some stories some of them told… tbh I’d doxx myself accidentally so fast, man LMAO i’d probably prefer to refer to my friends as their vtuber names cause for sure I’d doxx them too
Honestly? They probably do. Or at least nicknames. I'm pretty sure the only people who DON'T call Ironmouse "Mousey" or something similar are her parents, her siblings, and her doctor/nurse.
@@flowerdolphin5648they use nicknames when out in public, like a restaurant as far as i know, like, they decide the nicknames either a few days prior to the meeting or hours before it. The most popular vtubers do this, like Pekora, Matsuri, Susei, Baqua, etc
I mean even I had online friends in the past that adressed me by a nickname, and I adressed them by theirs. Even when we met in person at a convention at some point. It would make even more sense for them to do so, given that it minimizes the risk of slip-ups.
It's not panic, They just need to not let it happen too often for legal reasons. Because while not much is known about their contract due to NDAs and privacy concerns, We do know that you are not allowed to bring an existing streamer identity into or out of the company.
@@BramLastname I can tell you right now that that's not at all a factor, they're just giggling about it cause of the natural kayfabe of vtubing. Everyone knows who they used to be and them using their old names by accident doesn't violate any sort of NDA that's worth any salt because the most recognizable parts of their identities are their voices. They're not actively pretending to still be their old characters, that's all that matters
I don't think they are really panicking here. Why would they? Nijisanji could probably sue them if they pushed it too far, but realisticly, they didn't even sue Sayu when she leaked a lot of NDA protected information. They would only harm themselves and draw attention to the fact that former talents didn't really enjoy their time in Nijisanji, further limiting their own growth because even more people would hate them for that.
its so funny how bad they are at hiding it XDD tbh i dont even think its really a problem, if anything it being such an "open secret" just lets their old fans find them and continue to support them in their new forms ^^
And no I don't give a crap about calling them Mysta and Nina. That's who they are, jumping ships to get a Hot Topic rebrand is not gonna make me refer to them as unrelated individuals.
Some of the best streams was when Hime would slip up and talk about Garnt or talking to conner and her and Conner would slip up like 20 times in 5 minutes lmao. so Kuro and Matara slipping up just makes it 10x better. Back when I helped with radio some , I kept telling the guys dont worry about things not going right because as long as you have fun and laugh at the screw ups, it makes for better entertainment for the audience to laugh along .
Lol she said: Mister if you hear clearly enough, not Mysta! It just sounds similar, and ya all hear what ya want to hear, no need to assume sth by hearing it only once.
I am pretty sure shes telling the truth that she was thinking and meaning to say mister because he said miss but her brain on autopilot said the thing she's used to saying to him lol
Ok I´m convinced that all vtubers call each other by their vtuber name even offline, even if they are life long friends, because there is no way they could keep this up otherwise.
She actually said Mister(the male version of mistress) with an accent. It's unfortunate but really funny that it sounds so alike one of Mysta's nicknames was Mr. Rias because it sounds so much like Mr/Mister
I've said it before and I'll say it again: in my opinion vtubers and agencies should stop giving a shit about discussing past lives and just talk freely about it. Yes, EVERYBODY knows Matara, Kuro and Henya's past lives, just to name a few, so why not be able to freely talk about it?
Bcuz the goal of any agency is to hire people to promote the brand and make the agency popular, not the talent themselves, and as a matter of fact, most agencies don't really want their fans to leave the agency fanbase and follow these people. As a corpo vtuber you are hired as an actor to promote the brand, that's why many corpo vtuber fans never follow their Oshi after graduating: they were there for a character established by their fav corpo and they don't care where the actor goes after this company. Tldr: the whole secrecy thing is essentially a tool to protect the company and take as many resources away from the hire as possible
@@kymbbm corpo fans don't follow their oshi after graduating? bro citation needed. I don't know if you're talking about them like in an international sense or not but most of the EN bunch of vtubers I'm aware of, most of the time a vtuber's character backstory is just justification for their character design, and they're just being themselves the vast majority of the time. People DO follow them when they graduate, as emphasized by the subject of this video lmao
Theres people that don't know as well. Rather than leave those people out or make them feel like they aren't in on the joke or not as big of a fan for not knowing them back then its just simpler to start a clean slate for everyone involved. that just my two cents.
@@Squidpunkish I do get that point about not leaving people out, but what I'm saying is that I feel they shouldn't need to worry that much if/when it happens to come up, you know? Or if they just feel like talking about it they can - and they can provide context too, easily.
I'm becoming convinced that Kuro went and saw a fortune teller a long time ago, who told him to take on a vtuber name that could be perfectly passed off when Granny Scuff keeps accidentally using it later.
Granny Scuff LOL
ah she Granny Scuff and Monarch is Mommy Scuff
NO WAY DID YOU JUST CALL HER GRANNY SCUFF HSSHDHDJD
he even predicted that he will be the first male vshojo member even before mister
bro kuros reaction feels so genuine as matara tries to play it off LOOOOOOOOOL
she did said mister tho if you listen with volume up
This time I think she was being legit, she just said "mister" in a joking British accent not thinking about what it would sound like.
Yeah, i believe her. He has just called her Missus, so she was trying to play back by calling him Mister
@@EamilOh yeah, I can hear it now.
I think she actually said "mister" with a British accent, but even if she was wrong, it could happen. Kson also carelessly called Henya "Pikamee" in a previous collaboration. Old habits are hard to break. It takes some time....
We're still going through some growing pains, but a good consolation prize is that good, hearty laugh from Mister Kuro.
I'm really seeing you anywhere!
@@DukeVonPumpkin that laugh, that sussy laugh. Dare I say, that mysterious laugh xD
tbf, he's someone worthy of being called "Mister" before his name; must treat the man with the respect he deserves lol
It's probable that things like this are gonna keep happening for a while, it is what it is I guess
It's Mysta Kuro for you.
This is probably the first time I've had a reincarnation of someone I watched, and ngl their new names still don't come to mind first. Especially kuro, I feel like mysta is just a better name (more memorable)
VShojo: the company of worst-kept secrets
Edit: Where tf did you all come from?
Vshojo for real: *doesn't give a shit*
@@_MrDreamer93VShojo fans: damn straight
@@_MrDreamer93 It's not VShojo that has shits to give, it's the other corpo they came from that do.
@@xtrem5428 i know it for sure. Just in comments it's always about mentioning VShojo
Why do I have a feeling that Kson would straight up play Idol Showdown as Coco if she was into fighting games like that just for the Troll?
Mom gotta stop getting possessed maybe she should see someone about that LOLLL
they need an exorcist vtuber in Vshojo lmao
@@kittyprydeclipschWe may just get one soon. Then again, she might need an exorcism herself.
@@kittyprydeclipschBanzoin Hakka collab when? lol
@@DinnerForkTongueI still find it hilarious that the three biggest Spanish-speaking Vtubers are a ghost, a demon, and an exorcist.
(Reimu, Ironmouse, and Hakka)
@@useraccount333 I think there's a theme here...
Didnt know Mata has some very strong British accent with the way she pronounce mister
There's other accents that pronounce it similarly, she's just so cultured XD
One of the best things about VShojo is that the company really doesn't care about kayfabe or staying in character 24/7. The talent can be older, married, have kids, be of any gender and talk about their real life and identities as much as they want. It is a place to be yourself...and whatever "self" you want to be.
What’s kayfabe?
@@rosefishu staying in character no matter what
see: pro wrestling
At least no one would overreact when these vtubers suddenly get a bf/gf unlike the fans from holo. I'm starting to unlike their fanbase (not the talents) since they kept forgetting that there are real humans behind these vtubers.
I think it's more of a Western vtuber thing.
@@konaqua122why would anyone get involved with the fanbase to begin with? i just download pics from artists i like on twitter, give them a like and move on lmao
Mama is making it really hard to call him Kuro lmfaoooo i almost have it and then she's like "Mysta-- I MEAN MR. MR. KURO" loooool
Wait what was his old name?
@@JedrekRykerhis old name was Mysta Rias.
@@JedrekRykerYep... from Nijisanji but everyone knows about it and making it a meme nowadays. This just fuels more content for the both of them 😂
I mean, old habits die hard. That's the name she knew him by for what? 1-2 years?
Its also hard cause she could be genuinely calling him mister but its just too close
Of course, Mister. *MISTER!*
like harley quinn says it. MISTA J!
At this point, Matara and Kuro slipping is as sure as Tom Holland spoiling
LMFAO great comparison
"Mister Kuro" is now an official nickname in Kuro Kurenai's wiki
Matara is the only vtuber I've personally seen accidentally use their real name in a stream. She was talking about herself in the third person and it slipped 🤣
that would be 3 days after debuting im so sure of that LMAO
wait which stream is this
sos
She should really stop monkeying around, huh?
I've heard another niji girl do that aswell haha but I mean, I heard nothing ofc.
Nicr save though
0:34 Kuro with the nice save at the end
Hey Henya, you mind sending a few more of those forgetting beams? They're gonna need them.
Courtesy of ina
Mom still the same,love her son. These two always make my day ❤
0:21 she just facepalmed lmao
His laugh is so funny to me because he is sO genuinely entertained by the whole situation LMAOOO 😂❤️
I mean... he is in Vshojo, but that doesn't mean he can't be a mister.
Tara is like Navi. but instead of saying "Hey, listen!" she says "Hey, mista!" 😂
the way he bursts out laughing just gets me
LMAO AGAIN
Awww so polite of matara to refer to her coworkers as misters and mistresses!
I just like the story that despite having collabed multiple times (even if we’re only considering this timeline as canon), Kuro still hasnt established with her his gender
His gender of course being Mister
Henya: WASURERU BEAAAAAAM!
Matara out here using words with hard R‘s.
At this point, Kuro should just call him self MISTA KURO.
Ladies and Gentlemen
Welcome to the Worst Kept Secrets of VShojo
What about Henya?
They showed real professionalism at this one both were smooth as fuck 😂😂
Mista bombastic
I love how they just laugh it off each time. 😂
Same 😂
its nice seeing the banter between those two, like two sailors going for some rum
Matara: when you slip up, the only way is to gaslight gatekeep girlboss your way forward
God I love this shit. As someone who is only ankle deep in the vtubing community, knowing just enough to laugh at this makes my day.
They're just gonna keep doing this every time they collab until the end of time 😂
Like walking an eggshells metaphorically
FYI she actually slipped in a previous stream when talking about Kuro & had decided that she'd use "mister" as a way to help break her old habit. This was the 1st time she intentionally tried it on Kuro in person but it stunned Kuro instead.
Matara: 👈👁️👁️👉
bro was speechless
daym yall clippers be fast
Yeah, how dare she assume Kuro's gender, it's vSHOJO
He's a chubby crossdresser IRL so it tracks.
@@definitelynotanAIchatbot
I did see what he looks like irl, and he didn't look chubby to me.
Same, I saw irl and he is not chubby at all dude lit looks like a kpop singer.
@@definitelynotanAIchatbot hes not rlly chubby tbh, idk how to describe it anyways lol
@@definitelynotanAIchatbotnow you’re making up shit lol. When I saw him IRL, he wasn’t chubby at all
HER TRYING TO SAY MISTER WITHOUT THE HARD R😭😭😭
That spooky situation of uninentional timing, playing Darktide as I booted up this clip and theres the Darktide loading screen in the background X3
"yeah i do that a lot" was so funny to me😂
Matara can literally fall flat on her face and fall on a huge set piece bringing the whole place down live on stream and I would still should "YAS MOTHER SERVE"
The gasp* after realizing lol~
*Must have been the wind!*
She did her best to help avoid his slip and then without. skipping. a. beat. slipped herself. She said that withso much confidence it sounded intentional
If you ever wondered what vtubers call each other when offline and private, they use their handles.
@@tubeshut8118 I feel like it could be different when the identity is a "work identity", but for safety's sake, sticking to the handles is the best thing to do.
What do you mean by handles? Could you give me an example?
I recall one of the very early Myth collabs where Mori referred to herself using her real name.
@@matthewmatthew981 I'm talking about their vtuber names. I only know of one vtuber that uses their real, full name and he's a special case.
@@PokeballEX Or the time when Ironmouse streamed with DDK and used the wrong name. That one must be tricky because of how many people interact with both identities.
with everything going on in kurosanji rn going back to this clip is like taking in a long, clean breath of fresh air
the worst bit is while watching this i went "ninaaaaa- i mean..... taraaaaaaa"
Now I'm seeing everything
she was definitely just genuinely calling him "mister," which is pretty normal in this context. this ones on kuro lol
Anyone else wonder if they use their vtuber names when hanging out cuz if I became a vtuber id accidentally use their real names TT
Idk about these two, but some Vtubers do use their online handles when they hang out. It does mean they could get recognized should they slip up in public, but that's much less of a risk than accidentally saying someone's real name on a stream for the whole world to hear. I doubt many of them even know the real names of each other, unless they were friends from the past.
I always wondered too and I think they do, based on some stories some of them told… tbh I’d doxx myself accidentally so fast, man LMAO i’d probably prefer to refer to my friends as their vtuber names cause for sure I’d doxx them too
Honestly? They probably do. Or at least nicknames.
I'm pretty sure the only people who DON'T call Ironmouse "Mousey" or something similar are her parents, her siblings, and her doctor/nurse.
@@flowerdolphin5648they use nicknames when out in public, like a restaurant as far as i know, like, they decide the nicknames either a few days prior to the meeting or hours before it. The most popular vtubers do this, like Pekora, Matsuri, Susei, Baqua, etc
I mean even I had online friends in the past that adressed me by a nickname, and I adressed them by theirs. Even when we met in person at a convention at some point.
It would make even more sense for them to do so, given that it minimizes the risk of slip-ups.
Both of them panicking like that over something that won't even result in a stern talking to in their new company is really telling.
Tbh idk where you saw any panic lmao
It's not panic,
They just need to not let it happen too often for legal reasons.
Because while not much is known about their contract due to NDAs and privacy concerns,
We do know that you are not allowed to bring an existing streamer identity into or out of the company.
@@BramLastname Just let me hate on Nijisanji management okay. Can you just do that for me?
@@BramLastname I can tell you right now that that's not at all a factor, they're just giggling about it cause of the natural kayfabe of vtubing. Everyone knows who they used to be and them using their old names by accident doesn't violate any sort of NDA that's worth any salt because the most recognizable parts of their identities are their voices. They're not actively pretending to still be their old characters, that's all that matters
I don't think they are really panicking here. Why would they? Nijisanji could probably sue them if they pushed it too far, but realisticly, they didn't even sue Sayu when she leaked a lot of NDA protected information. They would only harm themselves and draw attention to the fact that former talents didn't really enjoy their time in Nijisanji, further limiting their own growth because even more people would hate them for that.
Old habits die hard
No we all know he's called Mista Kuro.
It's like Henya all over again xD
Mysta rias and nina kosaka we all know it them 😊😊😊 the voices unique even with a slight changes
its so funny how bad they are at hiding it XDD tbh i dont even think its really a problem, if anything it being such an "open secret" just lets their old fans find them and continue to support them in their new forms ^^
Mistah Kuro is a perfectly plausible moniker, a common pronunciation even XD
Besides, Mr. Kuro needs all the help he can get as a vSHOJO member
Imagine Mysta made a Suprise appearance during this:
HOW DARE YOU!!
😂😂😂
Now I fully understand the clips titles, Mom, etc.
Mysta Kuro shes using a lil bit of JP accent lol
go ahead mistur jostur
Vshojo: I don't give a shit, your problem.
Just Mister Kuro
I think mama roach is being possessed by a fox mom
They're so bad to keep secrets than a certain genius 😂 jajajaja
THEY SO FUNNY I CAN"T LMAOO
They made a big mistake in having Mrs. Kosaka's new name start with an "M" and Mysta's new name start with a "K"
And no I don't give a crap about calling them Mysta and Nina. That's who they are, jumping ships to get a Hot Topic rebrand is not gonna make me refer to them as unrelated individuals.
@@matthewmatthew981nobody cares about it either except weirdos
mister Kuro come to the reception please
They went Vshojo mode to nijisanji mode
Myst- I mean Kuro: "That's affansavve!"
Missta Kurenai~
im crying not mister…..nice save 💀
I'm used to hearing this now lmao
Wait that mysta? On one hand cool on the other hand I didn't see that coming
Yep, he reincarnated as Kuro😊
Yes. And roach mom is our former fox mom
@@Hy3jii cool
@@Aixyoxhox nice
Mysta Rias and Nina Kosaka ❤ i love their dynamics as friends
Some of the best streams was when Hime would slip up and talk about Garnt or talking to conner and her and Conner would slip up like 20 times in 5 minutes lmao. so Kuro and Matara slipping up just makes it 10x better. Back when I helped with radio some , I kept telling the guys dont worry about things not going right because as long as you have fun and laugh at the screw ups, it makes for better entertainment for the audience to laugh along .
They’re not alone that had the slip ups, that’s for sure.
"Wait what?" 🤣
mysta kuro and mama...tarakan
Well, considering the context, i do think she did actually say "Mister", but well... Mysta is so fucking close she may as wel have said Mysta
Why are they even tring at this point 🤣🤣🤣
old habit never dies, seems it will take some time, it's the price that we should pay to giving them a better place.
Myster Kuro
Lol she said: Mister if you hear clearly enough, not Mysta! It just sounds similar, and ya all hear what ya want to hear, no need to assume sth by hearing it only once.
i bet gunrun is enjoying this.
them just being normal, finally the pain is fading
I am pretty sure shes telling the truth that she was thinking and meaning to say mister because he said miss but her brain on autopilot said the thing she's used to saying to him lol
Would’ve been more believable if she said she was trying to say it in a bad British accent😭
System: The Soul of Mysta rias and Nina kosaka has entered the bodies.
Atleast they still remember there pastlives..🙂
Obviously he’s Mr. Mister. When he gets pissed, she gets mist.
Ok I´m convinced that all vtubers call each other by their vtuber name even offline, even if they are life long friends, because there is no way they could keep this up otherwise.
SHE LITERALLY SAID MYSTA LOL
She actually said Mister(the male version of mistress) with an accent.
It's unfortunate but really funny that it sounds so alike one of Mysta's nicknames was Mr. Rias because it sounds so much like Mr/Mister
Good ol Myster Kuro
I've said it before and I'll say it again: in my opinion vtubers and agencies should stop giving a shit about discussing past lives and just talk freely about it. Yes, EVERYBODY knows Matara, Kuro and Henya's past lives, just to name a few, so why not be able to freely talk about it?
Bcuz the goal of any agency is to hire people to promote the brand and make the agency popular, not the talent themselves, and as a matter of fact, most agencies don't really want their fans to leave the agency fanbase and follow these people.
As a corpo vtuber you are hired as an actor to promote the brand, that's why many corpo vtuber fans never follow their Oshi after graduating: they were there for a character established by their fav corpo and they don't care where the actor goes after this company.
Tldr: the whole secrecy thing is essentially a tool to protect the company and take as many resources away from the hire as possible
@@kymbbm corpo fans don't follow their oshi after graduating? bro citation needed. I don't know if you're talking about them like in an international sense or not but most of the EN bunch of vtubers I'm aware of, most of the time a vtuber's character backstory is just justification for their character design, and they're just being themselves the vast majority of the time. People DO follow them when they graduate, as emphasized by the subject of this video lmao
Theres people that don't know as well. Rather than leave those people out or make them feel like they aren't in on the joke or not as big of a fan for not knowing them back then its just simpler to start a clean slate for everyone involved. that just my two cents.
@@Squidpunkish I do get that point about not leaving people out, but what I'm saying is that I feel they shouldn't need to worry that much if/when it happens to come up, you know? Or if they just feel like talking about it they can - and they can provide context too, easily.
@@hello_alpine1693 400k live viewers witnessed Coco's graduation. Where are those people now?
You can't say to me he wasn't setting it up with the "Mrs. Kun" xD
Vshojo is just the refugee company
I thought Kuro was going insane 😭
I didn't know her favourite anime character was Mista from Jojo part 5