Excellent video Anderson. Your unboxing & assembly of the 800 helped influence my purchase of the MB 800 yesterday. I went step by step with your video and it helped alot. I can't wait to fire this baby up
I've had my 560 for almost 3 years come July. The sheet metal inside the hopper, where the coals sit and burn, has melted away, and now the firebrick is exposed, 1/2" thick wall of it, which could be easily scrapped off when the coals are moving inside. Masterbuilt needs to install a thicker gauge wall. The insulation is not even compressed inside either. They will not replace it for you, i've already tried that process with them and i was shot down. Here's the response you'll get from them. Just a heads up to you all. Hope this helps. Other then that, i love the product. Best smoker. Hello, Thank you for contacting customer support In the Gravity Series Hopper, your fire is contained to a 6” - 12” area that is reinforced with a food-safe soft ceramic firebrick to handle the higher temps in the lower portion of the hopper. The ingredients used in the ceramic are food-safe allowed for use in food or as an indirect additive used in food contact. The metal plates in the lower portion of the hopper hold the firebrick in place and protect it during shipping. They are not necessary for the grill to function as they are meant to be temporary, as they will burn out and drop into the ash pan. In our testing, we’ve seen firebricks last multiple years. You do get some initial firebrick degradation during burn-in and initial usage, but then degradation tends to stabilize.
I have an 800, overall I like it. But, beware of damage to the inside of the firebox from heat. My firebox has a hole on the outside wall that burned through to the insulation. The grill is less than a year old and has been used maybe ten times. I had to buy a stainless steel insert made by LSS mods to prevent more heat damage.
I have recently purchased an 800. I see one area where Masterbuilt cheaped out on the construction. It has to do with where the power plugs into the unit. They have this little dangling plug under the tray. It has 2 little tiny wires going into the control unit. Now picture this. You may have children or pets running around where you are cooking. It won't take much to rip these wires right out of the control unit. What they should have done is have a jack installed in the control unit something like the 4 temp probes. That would have been a much better way of doing it. I am going to modify mine, and install a panel mount jack under the tray on a little bracket.
I was going to replace my 4 yr old 560 with an 800, but since they discontinued the 560 you can pick one up at Home Depot for 400 bucks! A deal i cant refuse.
I have had my 560 for about 4 years now, and I love it. Sure it has a few shortcomings but they were easy to fix. It's just me so I do not need a larger smoker , but that does not mean I do not want a 1050.
This is the review I've been looking for. Up to date! All other reviews I've seen have been at least a year old. I needed something current to help make a decision. Been trying to decide between the traeger ironwood 650, pit boss pro series 850, and the MB 800. I'm not much of a grill expert by no means and I was looking for something easy to do and something easy for my wife to do as well if I'm at work and want to putt a butt or brisket on overnight while I'm at work. I like the ease of use of the traeger and pit boss, but loving the versatility of the MB 800. Being able to charcoal grill, smoke, and griddle all in one unit is pretty awesome. I kept seeing the issues with the power cord and control unit in other reviews. Good to see they've improved the cord. Hopefully the control unit has been updated as well. Thanks for doing this review. Will continue to research and hopefully make a final decision by this weekend.
I have a 560 and have replaced literally every electrical component on it more than once. They are junk and I will never buy or support them again. Makes awesome food though. When it works.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow yes. I have the 560 cover and it stays on our patio. I love the results from this grill. It’s just not built for outdoors… and it’s a grill so…
Buyer beware: I purchased a 560 model instead of a pellet grill and have temp and Bluetooth issues. Don't get this wrong problems with anything you buy but their is no product support no 800 number to Call and no support if you have problems . Their reasons for help is threw Is numerous emails and it's always 3 to 4 days to get a response and they answer the question with a question. This grill I have is 4 months old it was a gift from my kids and used 5 times and I can live with no Bluetooth but the cook chamber temp is off by 30 degrees. I was sent a new prob and it worked for two times but its doing it again. The online registration is no good they want 3 pic of the problem when sending it is rejected to many gigabytes like its impossible to register it and again they only communicate threw emails and takes forever to get help or the right help. Just saying if you spent 500 to 600 dollars on a grill make sure you have product support masterbuilt has none. So my kids took it back and bought a pellet grill that has good support. Go with the trager or the pit boss but don't by the masterbuilt. Good luck
I appreciate this video, I will now order the MB 800. I have been researching for a while, you did an excellent job of providing me with the much needed info. Thank you.
Thanks Andy. Now I hate my 560! 😭 I am going to take the lock I have on it tying it to my railing off. Maybe someone will make off with it and I can talk the wife into getting me the bigger and better one 🤫. I have Blackstone griddle. Man that thing is awesome. But a nice feature from Masterbuilt.
Thanks Andrew! I was thinking of driving a few hours from Canada to the States to pick up a Chargriller 980 after watching your comparison between it and the Masterbuilt 560. You replied to a comment on another one of your video's that you may be comparing the 980 to the MB 800 soon. I think I'll hold off until I see that video. Looks like the improved build quality and the griddle/rotisserie on the MB 800 might tip the scales and save me a trip. Great videos!
@@AndersonsSmokeShow can't wait im ready to buy and want to get the one that suits my need best. I think they are pretty close but the 980 seems to be better built
Really? Even with all of the complaints about things breaking or melting off? Everyone reviews highly for flavor, but the reviews make me very hesitant to get it.
Hey, thanks for this video. I bought the 1050 and i have not received it yet and this helped easy my nerves. I am really looking forward to it now. This was also the first video of yours i watched but i am moving on to others.
The masterbuilt 800 vs chargriller 980 will be a good video, I went with the 800 to put a whole Turkey on the rotisserie and the use of the griddle, time will tell if I made the right choice
I've had my 560 for two years now with a lot of miles on it like you, and no problems and all the mods. I'll move up to the 800 if and when the 560 craps out. I keep it and my GMG Daniel Boone in the garage, and think that keeps them in good shape. Good side by side Anderson
Any tips i feel like i can't get a solid smoke out of it it's like barely any smoke? Is that how its supposed to be? I've seen traegers work and they put out so much more smoke
What temperature are you running at and not seeing smoke? Typically 300F and lower is what I consider “smoker settings”. The smoke you want is a thin transparent blue smoke. This is a common misconception with smokers.
Interesting video. A couple of comments: -They sell a 800 MB at Costco for $600 without the griddle attachment. To me, switching out the manifold and grates is too much trouble. I don't get griddles for outdoors. I can do that inside. -I have my 560 power cord attached with a zip tie under the left shelf and use an outdoor extension cord to it making the cord included pretty irrelevant. -The Costco 800 has different upper racks than the 800 in your video. -The charcoal grate on the original 560 sucked and wasted too much charcoal. The newer grate is much better and I think it is included on both newer models.
Yeah I noticed the grate at the bottom of the hopper is much better! A couple other people made similar arrangements with the power cord, but it would’ve been nice if masterbuilt just made a better cord lol. Someone just commented about the Costco version yesterday but unfortunately for them they didn’t know about the difference and was expecting the griddle…
good info, thank you! I have been doubting about an 800. decided against it. the added functions are just not worth it to me. That is because unfortunately here in the Netherlands the masterbuilts are priced different, the 560 is here on sale nog for €399 (from €599), a masterbuilt 800 sets you back €800. The price gap is just too big. especially given that i am capable of making a few modifications myself.
Hello. Your videos are awesome with description. I was considering the 800 but have two questions. First, assuming not since the lid is open, but when making anything like pancakes on the griddle, do they get Smokey? Second, I live in the NE and don’t have a garage to store this in. Would it be wise to remove any electronic components for winter? Thank you!
For anyone who is buying a master built beware because I received one in a box that was totally destroyed and re-taped and yet I did not get any type of open box or damage discount. Then to top it off there is no telephone number to call and they force you to contact them online. This mean they can take up to a week or more to get back to you or even if you need a replacement part. If I could do it again I would buy a different brand or one that I can get at a store that is easily returnable
Do both grills use the same connectors for the fan where if you have the old model you can replace to the better cord? Great video. Wish I grabbed this a couple years ago but will get the new one this year when my current grill craps out and smoker. I do have the masterbuilt thermotemp smoker and it’s awesome.
Thank you for all the videos. After much research and videos, I went with the MasterBuilt 560 (Father's Day gift from family). Your review, assembly, use and cleaning videos convinced me. I love my 560 grill. Thank you!
I'm watching this from New Zealand and super keen on the 800 which is $2000 NZ dollars (about US $1200), so a lot of money but still good value because of shipping and distance from the USA, great review, thanks
On the 800: In r/t the Griddle & Rotisserie… Did the genius’ at MB really think it thru; by ensuring both accessories have a convenient/easily accessible place (under or along side of the grill) to store them when not in use? …or does it feel more like their decision to include the Griddle was an afterthought? Reason being: The rotisserie kit (that was “designed”) for my current grill is nice & I’ve enjoyed using it a few times; but, I stopped using it a long time ago for 2 reasons… 1. It’s not quick/easy to put on/take off + interferes w/ cooking space & grill functionality when not in use. & 2. When not in use, the spit rod doesn’t fit underneath, nor is there a good place for it. So, I have to store it inside (along w/ other rotisserie parts) & parts inevitably go missing when I do actually want to use them. So, now it’s just collecting dust somewhere.
Thanks for that video. Lots of good information. I'm a pellet grill owner and I have been looking into these charcoal gravity fed grills. I like that the 800 comes with the griddle option but here is my question. Since the 1050 can also hit 700 degrees, could I just put a griddle on top of the bottom rack? Also, I have read some people state that the bottom rack is only for grilling and that the middle rack is for smoking - is that true? TIA!
I happen to own the 800 and I love it. You can smoke on the bottom rack. I’ve made plenty of briskets on it and came out perfect. Also you cannot add a griddle to the 1050 because the 800 comes with a separate internal piece that you swap out that directs the heat straight to the griddle. The 800 has been a beast and everyone always ask me about my grill. Best Buy in my opinion
You can add a griddle to the 1050… LSSMODS makes the mod you need in order to direct the heat straight up. Don’t buy the 8 series just because it’s got a griddle. It’s a gimmick.
Electrical engineer?! Can you even math bro?! lol Seriously, just ordered my 800 series and I can't wait to try a bunch of your recipes. Smoked Salmon, Beer can chicken, kabobs. I'm gonna be outside a lot!
Great video… thanks so much. I am really interested in the Chargiller over the master built but you make a few good points. Main reason for the Chargiller was the built quality and the grease management… plus it was 980 area for the same price as the 800. Plus usually don’t get cut use out of the higher warming shelves. SO, what to do now? Think the Chargiller might still be the one but now I need to research the master built again… thanks
Hey Andrew i enjoy your videos they are very informative . I have questions about your pits I built my first pit out of 1/4 steel with a propane burner but looking to change up so I’m stuck between a pellet or the gravity offset wondering what you would you if you only had one pit thanks
Check out some of my videos on the Camp Chef Woodwind Pro! I think the gravity series 800 is a great option, but the Woodwind Pro is one of the most versatile grills on the market and can achieve very very similar results
Use b&b lump, and big chunks of red oak , maple and it does an excellent job. Now the doors sensors suck, and should be sprayed with contact cleaner on a regulars basis, and changed about yearly.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow If you get to the point it wont turn the fan on, or run above 500 degrees time to change the door sensors. Also spray them regular with contact cleaner to keep ash and grease from interfering with them.
Griddle is exclusive to the 800. The cord I’m not sure when they improved it, but the 560 cord irritated me even though it never really caused a problem
I don't need one but you make me want to buy a masterbuilt 800. My woodwind with the sidekick is excellent so far with the charcoal pellets. The side kick grease management for the grill box is trash though.
Thank you for your review. Do you have to use the power cord when using the Master built gravity unit? if I don’t have have a power source is it still usable?
I sure hope this video didn’t warrant a purchase of this pos for any of you. Most of these videos are influenced by Masterbuilt with free demos and promotions, etc. and Masterbuilt does a fine job of filtering any comments or negative posts. I have a 14 month old boat anchor of a 1050. First the switches, seals and temp controller will die, after your 1 year warranty is up you’ll notice that your firebox completely burned away. You’ll also learn from customer service that this is to be expected, but their research team has determined it would be years before this has happened, so you’re just SOL. I challenge any of you who have owned one of these longer than a few months and several cooks to let me know your unbiased experience.
How is the grease management on the 800 series master built when grilling and smoking. When you use the griddle how well does the grease management work out.
The great management seems to be a little better than the 560, but at the end of the day you need to keep it clean if you're going to run the grill at high temperatures
A question as someone about to get one of these. My favorite thing to smoke is brisket. My concern is this: a brisket can take me 15-16 hours of smoke time to get through: am I able to top off charcoal/wood chunk while the grill is running the way I can with my pellet smoker, or will the air flow cause all the charcoal to go up?
You can add more charcoal and wood as it burns down. It will cause a little fluctuation as more airflow is introduced, but it won’t be detrimental. You would only need to fill it a second time for a brisket… maybe 3 times depending on how far you let it burn down the first time
I own a "900" series. Basically a 800 with a pizza oven included for Costco. I also own serveral pellet grills, and gas grills. While I really enjoy my MB grill it had the most extensive assembly I've ever delt with. The assembly is the worst part of this grill.
I say don't buy any masterbuilt. I called them about an issue of my temp saying 400 degrees but the actual temp inside was hardly above 200 degrees (about a year into having the 1050 model). I know there is something wrong, but I can't figure it out. I tried to call them and email them multiple times with no callback. I honestly can't wait for a company like rec tec to make a charcoal one. Sorry to hijack your video, but it's pissing me off to no end that I am getting no response from them.
With the griddle and rotisserie the MB800 is a way more versatile grill. I haven’t got to cook much on the MB800 yet but from what I have it has been a great grill. My only qualm with the Char-Griller is the temperature situation… if you check out my temperature test video on the Char-Griller you will see what I’m talking anout
@@AndersonsSmokeShow ya it was 599 and they raised the price to 750. I personally like the build on it a little better but I have seen alot people with fan and flap issues. I dont think I can justify the the price increase. So now I am second guessing haha
Have they addressed the lid switch on the 2nd gen? The first gen had a plastic. Lid switch that would start to melt if you ran it to 700° like it says you can. I get what you are talking about with the cord. The new cord now looks like its weather rated and it looks like thicker insulation so it can take a beating.
I looked at an assembled new 560 at Home Depot, and the heat defector already had rust on the top welded end... which is not encouraging for a never used unit. The other floor unit did not. How is rust holding up? How are vents / openings protected if you have a light rain while cooking? (Planning to store indoors). Gen2 560 or 800.
Hmm I wonder why… I haven’t had any issues with rust honestly but I keep mine inside when it’s not being used. The vents seem like they are sort of backwards as they point in rather than protect the elements from coming in.
I’m tempted to grab the 560 while it’s $397 at Home Depot. I’m just not sure. Is it reliable? I want to “upgrade” from pellet and I need a direct flame options
@@AndersonsSmokeShow would you grab the gravity series or the Pitboss 700 for the same price. Both will give me the direct flame for searing I want but obviously one is charcoal and the other still pellet
Another great video! Any idea why they wouldn't add the griddle option for the 1050? I imagine that's something they could deliver for around $1000. I chose the 800 over the 1050 specifically for the griddle, but had that been an option on the 1050, I would have gone bigger in a heartbeat.
Thinking of buying a 800 but the reviews are a bit variable… what to do? Rust really a issue? Does the electrics give many errors? Can somebody give me a honest opinion? Greetings from The Netherlands!
The fan in my 560 keeps cutting on and off and isn’t working well and my door sensors aren’t working so I might get a new one. Only had it for under 2 years
I had a masterbuilt and it was a massive waste of money. 2 years of ownership and nothing but problems. Control went out twice, rotisserie went out twice, power cables melted, multiple fan failures. Not to mention the pop can thin steel they use with cheap paint so your constantly sanding down rust and repainting with high temp paint.
I have a Masterbuilt 560, and the only issues I’ve had is the control panel. I can’t even call it an issue because I was the one who damaged it. I’ve also had a few issues with the safety switches but as long as I clean them off every so often they work fine.
How does this grill handle cooking hotdog??? Is this grill overkill (wasting money on charcoal) when I want to cook small items for lunch… I’m not sure if I’m better off getting a propane/charcoal grill… for when I want to to cook a small meal..
People use it to “just grill” all the time, but if you have zero intent on smoking, and are just going to focus on small thing then it may be overkill.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow my question is for the simple day I want to just cook “a” hotdog (something small) is this grill overkill… meaning the amount of charcoal used to get the grill rolling… is this grill good for those days??? I can see this grill great for the days I’m smoking ribs and cookouts…that’s why I’m interested in this grill… but I’m seeing it being costly on charcoal if I’m wanting to cook a single item… So the question remains.. Would you up fire this master built grill for a hotdog… or would you fire up a propane grill??
For how long you’d need the fire, I don’t think its going to waste that much charcoal… The only thing I see is the convenience factor. Is it worth the start-up effort for a few dogs.
Buyer beware: I purchased a 560 model instead of a pellet grill and have temp and Bluetooth issues. Don't get this wrong problems with anything you buy but their is no product support no 800 number to Call and no support if you have problems . Their reasons for help is threw Is numerous emails and it's always 3 to 4 days to get a response and they answer the question with a question. This grill I have is 4 months old it was a gift from my kids and used 5 times and I can live with no Bluetooth but the cook chamber temp is off by 30 degrees. I was sent a new prob and it worked for two times but its doing it again. The online registration is no good they want 3 pic of the problem when sending it is rejected to many gigabytes like its impossible to register it and again they only communicate threw emails and takes forever to get help or the right help. Just saying if you spent 500 to 600 dollars on a grill make sure you have product masterbuilt has none. So my kids took it back and bought a pellet grill that has good support. Good luck.
I’ve personally never had to work with their support, but that’s obvious disappointing to hear. I’ve worked with Camp Chef support and never had an issue dealing with them.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow thanks! what kind of 3rd party? I'm in europe and there aren't many available here so I have to look up for it as i need a bigger one and the 800 would be kinda small for me
I don’t necessarily follow a particular ratio. I have a little charcoal at the bottom of the hopper, then toss in about 3 decent sized chunks, add more charcoal, couple more chucks, then lastly top off with charcoal.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow Awesomeness! I have been seriously looking at the Gravity 800 because I want to "up my game" from my Pit Boss 820. Is it doing well for you still?
Did masterbuilt pay you to promote their product or send their products to you? Most of the reviews ive seen that are negative are a result of the electronics display malfunctioning, not functioning or generally breaking. Can you highlight this at all?
I bought the 560 and Masterbuilt sent me the 800. I wasn’t paid for anything. In terms of issues, other than some temperature inaccuracies I haven’t had any problems.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow thanks! Last question. The little brick that you ignite the fire with what is that exactly and does it come with the grill? Aside from charcoal just wondering the best ways to light it.
I bought a 560 had it for a year now I have to slam the top on the hopper to get fan to turn on and now even slamming it won't cut the fan on please help
Sounds like there’s an issue with the limit switch on the door. One thing you can do is try and push the plunger down carefully with a screwdriver and see if the fan kicks on…. If it does, you may be able to make some adjustments with the tightness of the hopper lid so that it makes better contact. If not you may have to replace the limit switch.
Excellent video Anderson. Your unboxing & assembly of the 800 helped influence my purchase of the MB 800 yesterday. I went step by step with your video and it helped alot. I can't wait to fire this baby up
Love my 560! Never disappoints. Had it two years and recently installed a Complete stainless steel LSS mods kit.
Nice!
Where did u get the mod kit?
I've had my 560 for almost 3 years come July. The sheet metal inside the hopper, where the coals sit and burn, has melted away, and now the firebrick is exposed, 1/2" thick wall of it, which could be easily scrapped off when the coals are moving inside. Masterbuilt needs to install a thicker gauge wall. The insulation is not even compressed inside either. They will not replace it for you, i've already tried that process with them and i was shot down. Here's the response you'll get from them. Just a heads up to you all. Hope this helps. Other then that, i love the product. Best smoker.
Hello,
Thank you for contacting customer support
In the Gravity Series Hopper, your fire is contained to a 6” - 12” area that is reinforced with a food-safe soft ceramic firebrick to handle the higher temps in the lower portion of the hopper. The ingredients used in the ceramic are food-safe allowed for use in food or as an indirect additive used in food contact.
The metal plates in the lower portion of the hopper hold the firebrick in place and protect it during shipping. They are not necessary for the grill to function as they are meant to be temporary, as they will burn out and drop into the ash pan. In our testing, we’ve seen firebricks last multiple years. You do get some initial firebrick degradation during burn-in and initial usage, but then degradation tends to stabilize.
I have an 800, overall I like it. But, beware of damage to the inside of the firebox from heat. My firebox has a hole on the outside wall that burned through to the insulation. The grill is less than a year old and has been used maybe ten times.
I had to buy a stainless steel insert made by LSS mods to prevent more heat damage.
How do I find this?
Great heads up. Appreciate you.
I have recently purchased an 800. I see one area where Masterbuilt cheaped out on the construction. It has to do with where the power plugs into the unit. They have this little dangling plug under the tray. It has 2 little tiny wires going into the control unit.
Now picture this. You may have children or pets running around where you are cooking. It won't take much to rip these wires right out of the control unit.
What they should have done is have a jack installed in the control unit something like the 4 temp probes. That would have been a much better way of doing it.
I am going to modify mine, and install a panel mount jack under the tray on a little bracket.
I was going to replace my 4 yr old 560 with an 800, but since they discontinued the 560 you can pick one up at Home Depot for 400 bucks! A deal i cant refuse.
I have had my 560 for about 4 years now, and I love it. Sure it has a few shortcomings but they were easy to fix.
It's just me so I do not need a larger smoker , but that does not mean I do not want a 1050.
This is the review I've been looking for. Up to date! All other reviews I've seen have been at least a year old. I needed something current to help make a decision.
Been trying to decide between the traeger ironwood 650, pit boss pro series 850, and the MB 800. I'm not much of a grill expert by no means and I was looking for something easy to do and something easy for my wife to do as well if I'm at work and want to putt a butt or brisket on overnight while I'm at work. I like the ease of use of the traeger and pit boss, but loving the versatility of the MB 800. Being able to charcoal grill, smoke, and griddle all in one unit is pretty awesome. I kept seeing the issues with the power cord and control unit in other reviews. Good to see they've improved the cord. Hopefully the control unit has been updated as well. Thanks for doing this review. Will continue to research and hopefully make a final decision by this weekend.
You definitely get more smoke from the MB800, but startup is a little more involved
I have a 560 and have replaced literally every electrical component on it more than once. They are junk and I will never buy or support them again.
Makes awesome food though. When it works.
That’s unfortunate… I haven’t had any issues with any of the electronics on mine, but I do keep mine in the garage. Do you keep yours covered?
@@AndersonsSmokeShow yes. I have the 560 cover and it stays on our patio. I love the results from this grill. It’s just not built for outdoors… and it’s a grill so…
Buyer beware: I purchased a 560 model instead of a pellet grill and have temp and Bluetooth issues. Don't get this wrong problems with anything you buy but their is no product support no 800 number to Call and no support if you have problems . Their reasons for help is threw Is numerous emails and it's always 3 to 4 days to get a response and they answer the question with a question. This grill I have is 4 months old it was a gift from my kids and used 5 times and I can live with no Bluetooth but the cook chamber temp is off by 30 degrees. I was sent a new prob and it worked for two times but its doing it again. The online registration is no good they want 3 pic of the problem when sending it is rejected to many gigabytes like its impossible to register it and again they only communicate threw emails and takes forever to get help or the right help. Just saying if you spent 500 to 600 dollars on a grill make sure you have product support masterbuilt has none. So my kids took it back and bought a pellet grill that has good support. Go with the trager or the pit boss but don't by the masterbuilt. Good luck
I appreciate this video, I will now order the MB 800. I have been researching for a while, you did an excellent job of providing me with the much needed info.
Thank you.
Thanks Andy. Now I hate my 560! 😭 I am going to take the lock I have on it tying it to my railing off. Maybe someone will make off with it and I can talk the wife into getting me the bigger and better one 🤫. I have Blackstone griddle. Man that thing is awesome. But a nice feature from Masterbuilt.
Thanks Andrew! I was thinking of driving a few hours from Canada to the States to pick up a Chargriller 980 after watching your comparison between it and the Masterbuilt 560. You replied to a comment on another one of your video's that you may be comparing the 980 to the MB 800 soon. I think I'll hold off until I see that video. Looks like the improved build quality and the griddle/rotisserie on the MB 800 might tip the scales and save me a trip. Great videos!
Look forward to that video I am in limbo between the 2 myself
you might get a surprise: The 980 went from $599 to $749 US within the past few months
I will be comparing the 800 and 980 very soon!
@@AndersonsSmokeShow can't wait im ready to buy and want to get the one that suits my need best. I think they are pretty close but the 980 seems to be better built
Thanks for the video 👍I have been cooking on my 560 for around 3 years and I got to say the best smoker I have ever had. 🍺🍖🍗
The Gravity Series is a GREAT grill and smoker! Thanks for watching Fred
Really? Even with all of the complaints about things breaking or melting off? Everyone reviews highly for flavor, but the reviews make me very hesitant to get it.
Nice comparison. Good to see you making content, always like your take on how to do things. Cheers!
Thanks Troy!
I was able to get the 1050 and a cover, for $30 more than the 800 alone. Good deal at Home Depot for me :)
Heck yeah!
I bought the 800 at Costco and it does a great job
They are a great smoker
Thank you so much for doing the hard work and making my purchase decision easy. Great videos...
Glad to help!
Hey, thanks for this video. I bought the 1050 and i have not received it yet and this helped easy my nerves. I am really looking forward to it now. This was also the first video of yours i watched but i am moving on to others.
The masterbuilt 800 vs chargriller 980 will be a good video, I went with the 800 to put a whole Turkey on the rotisserie and the use of the griddle, time will tell if I made the right choice
I just used the rotisserie for the first time and they were great!
I've had my 560 for two years now with a lot of miles on it like you, and no problems and all the mods. I'll move up to the 800 if and when the 560 craps out. I keep it and my GMG Daniel Boone in the garage, and think that keeps them in good shape. Good side by side Anderson
Yeah keeping them out of the weather extends the life soooo much!
Any tips i feel like i can't get a solid smoke out of it it's like barely any smoke? Is that how its supposed to be? I've seen traegers work and they put out so much more smoke
What temperature are you running at and not seeing smoke? Typically 300F and lower is what I consider “smoker settings”. The smoke you want is a thin transparent blue smoke. This is a common misconception with smokers.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow never mind got it figured out just needed some wood chunks
I'd like to see you review the Brisk-It smoker looking like my next grill
Interesting video. A couple of comments:
-They sell a 800 MB at Costco for $600 without the griddle attachment. To me, switching out the manifold and grates is too much trouble. I don't get griddles for outdoors. I can do that inside.
-I have my 560 power cord attached with a zip tie under the left shelf and use an outdoor extension cord to it making the cord included pretty irrelevant.
-The Costco 800 has different upper racks than the 800 in your video.
-The charcoal grate on the original 560 sucked and wasted too much charcoal. The newer grate is much better and I think it is included on both newer models.
Yeah I noticed the grate at the bottom of the hopper is much better! A couple other people made similar arrangements with the power cord, but it would’ve been nice if masterbuilt just made a better cord lol. Someone just commented about the Costco version yesterday but unfortunately for them they didn’t know about the difference and was expecting the griddle…
It's on sale for $499 in club right now, I think I'm going for it.
That’s a good deal!
I have the 560 with the rotisserie. I shortened both cords to 2' and I hid a power strip inside of the side shelf.
Ahhhhhh very smart!
Damn, I would love to buy one for that price. Here in Sweden a 560 is about 700$ and a 800 is roughly 1100$.
Great video. There are some nice upgrades on the 800, and it sure looks like a versatile cooker👍😊
With the griddle it is SUPER versatile!
good info, thank you! I have been doubting about an 800. decided against it. the added functions are just not worth it to me. That is because unfortunately here in the Netherlands the masterbuilts are priced different, the 560 is here on sale nog for €399 (from €599), a masterbuilt 800 sets you back €800. The price gap is just too big. especially given that i am capable of making a few modifications myself.
So is your decision to go with the MB560
Thanks have been comparing them both and this helps on my decision making.
Glad it helped!
The one thing that's in the 560's favor is a load of charcoal will last 12 hours vs 8 hours on the 800.
Hello. Your videos are awesome with description. I was considering the 800 but have two questions. First, assuming not since the lid is open, but when making anything like pancakes on the griddle, do they get Smokey? Second, I live in the NE and don’t have a garage to store this in. Would it be wise to remove any electronic components for winter? Thank you!
how hard theses to clean? keep up the good work.
Not too bad
Today in Canada the 560 is $728 and the 800 is $1349 while the 1050 is $1197. Now that's Canadian dollars so 550/1000/900 respectively.
For anyone who is buying a master built beware because I received one in a box that was totally destroyed and re-taped and yet I did not get any type of open box or damage discount.
Then to top it off there is no telephone number to call and they force you to contact them online. This mean they can take up to a week or more to get back to you or even if you need a replacement part.
If I could do it again I would buy a different brand or one that I can get at a store that is easily returnable
Do both grills use the same connectors for the fan where if you have the old model you can replace to the better cord? Great video. Wish I grabbed this a couple years ago but will get the new one this year when my current grill craps out and smoker. I do have the masterbuilt thermotemp smoker and it’s awesome.
Actually I haven’t looked into the cords that closely, but I’ll have to look now.
Thank you for all the videos. After much research and videos, I went with the MasterBuilt 560 (Father's Day gift from family). Your review, assembly, use and cleaning videos convinced me. I love my 560 grill. Thank you!
Glad that you enjoy it! The gravity series grills make great food!
I just did a 13lb brisket on the "warming"rack and 2 racks of spare ribs on the middle shelf of my 1050
Trick question, chargriller 980... Hahaha great video!
Looking at my member comments, your comment on my Chargriller vs MB800 is right above this! lol
Thank you for the video....very informative.
Thanks for watching!
I'm glad I got the 800 for 300 buck from Walmart the just forgot it was out in the trailers on the parking lot . Cant was to assemble and cook on it.
Love my 800 here in Aus, super versatile and simply nails smoked brisket and ribs 👍🏼🍺
I'm watching this from New Zealand and super keen on the 800 which is $2000 NZ dollars (about US $1200), so a lot of money but still good value because of shipping and distance from the USA, great review, thanks
12 months on, how is yours performing? I'm in Aus and looking at similar!
On the 800: In r/t the Griddle & Rotisserie…
Did the genius’ at MB really think it thru; by ensuring both accessories have a convenient/easily accessible place (under or along side of the grill) to store them when not in use?
…or does it feel more like their decision to include the Griddle was an afterthought?
Reason being: The rotisserie kit (that was “designed”) for my current grill is nice & I’ve enjoyed using it a few times; but, I stopped using it a long time ago for 2 reasons…
1. It’s not quick/easy to put on/take off + interferes w/ cooking space & grill functionality when not in use.
&
2. When not in use, the spit rod doesn’t fit underneath, nor is there a good place for it. So, I have to store it inside (along w/ other rotisserie parts) & parts inevitably go missing when I do actually want to use them.
So, now it’s just collecting dust somewhere.
Thanks for that video. Lots of good information. I'm a pellet grill owner and I have been looking into these charcoal gravity fed grills. I like that the 800 comes with the griddle option but here is my question. Since the 1050 can also hit 700 degrees, could I just put a griddle on top of the bottom rack? Also, I have read some people state that the bottom rack is only for grilling and that the middle rack is for smoking - is that true? TIA!
I happen to own the 800 and I love it. You can smoke on the bottom rack. I’ve made plenty of briskets on it and came out perfect. Also you cannot add a griddle to the 1050 because the 800 comes with a separate internal piece that you swap out that directs the heat straight to the griddle. The 800 has been a beast and everyone always ask me about my grill. Best Buy in my opinion
You can add a griddle to the 1050… LSSMODS makes the mod you need in order to direct the heat straight up. Don’t buy the 8 series just because it’s got a griddle. It’s a gimmick.
Are you going to be getting the new portable Masterbuilt? I would be curious to hear your thoughts on it.
I haven’t yet, but maybe I’ll reach out and see what they say.
Electrical engineer?! Can you even math bro?! lol
Seriously, just ordered my 800 series and I can't wait to try a bunch of your recipes. Smoked Salmon, Beer can chicken, kabobs. I'm gonna be outside a lot!
Haha I’ve forgot more math that most people have learned lol. The 800 is a great smoker for all of that!
Great video… thanks so much. I am really interested in the Chargiller over the master built but you make a few good points. Main reason for the Chargiller was the built quality and the grease management… plus it was 980 area for the same price as the 800. Plus usually don’t get cut use out of the higher warming shelves. SO, what to do now? Think the Chargiller might still be the one but now I need to research the master built again… thanks
I’ll be doing a comparison between the 800 and 980 soon!
The whole time I'm watching this video, I was thinking the same exact thing... 🤨
Hey! How do you compare a gravity fed vs a ceramic one. Which one would you prefer? Love your vids.
I've honestly never cooked on a ceramic, but the set it and forget it aspect of the gravity make it nice!
Well done buddy another great job as always 💯👍
Thanks 👍
amazing video, thank you I think I just made my mind up
what is the power draw on both units - can I run them off my Jackery battery which has an AC inverter
Hey Andrew i enjoy your videos they are very informative . I have questions about your pits I built my first pit out of 1/4 steel with a propane burner but looking to change up so I’m stuck between a pellet or the gravity offset wondering what you would you if you only had one pit thanks
Check out some of my videos on the Camp Chef Woodwind Pro! I think the gravity series 800 is a great option, but the Woodwind Pro is one of the most versatile grills on the market and can achieve very very similar results
Use b&b lump, and big chunks of red oak , maple and it does an excellent job.
Now the doors sensors suck, and should be sprayed with contact cleaner on a regulars basis, and changed about yearly.
I haven’t had any issues with the sensors
@@AndersonsSmokeShow I have , just changed all 3
@@AndersonsSmokeShow If you get to the point it wont turn the fan on, or run above 500 degrees time to change the door sensors. Also spray them regular with contact cleaner to keep ash and grease from interfering with them.
I have a 1050 I didn't know about that griddle in the upgraded cord I'd like to get my hands on some of those for my 1050
Griddle is exclusive to the 800. The cord I’m not sure when they improved it, but the 560 cord irritated me even though it never really caused a problem
What up bro,
Quick Question on the masterbuilt gravity smoker, do you know if there is a 2023 model update
I don't need one but you make me want to buy a masterbuilt 800. My woodwind with the sidekick is excellent so far with the charcoal pellets. The side kick grease management for the grill box is trash though.
Honestly you can't beat the Camp Chef's versatility.... hands down the best offering in the grill market
Thank you for your review. Do you have to use the power cord when using the Master built gravity unit? if I don’t have have a power source is it still usable?
Yes, you always need power.
Just picked an 800 up today from Walmart for $497!!!
Wow that’s a great deal!
I sure hope this video didn’t warrant a purchase of this pos for any of you. Most of these videos are influenced by Masterbuilt with free demos and promotions, etc. and Masterbuilt does a fine job of filtering any comments or negative posts. I have a 14 month old boat anchor of a 1050. First the switches, seals and temp controller will die, after your 1 year warranty is up you’ll notice that your firebox completely burned away. You’ll also learn from customer service that this is to be expected, but their research team has determined it would be years before this has happened, so you’re just SOL. I challenge any of you who have owned one of these longer than a few months and several cooks to let me know your unbiased experience.
How is the grease management on the 800 series master built when grilling and smoking. When you use the griddle how well does the grease management work out.
The great management seems to be a little better than the 560, but at the end of the day you need to keep it clean if you're going to run the grill at high temperatures
Any thoughts on the masterbuilt 900
The grates: smoke & sear side, seems like a joke, I just leave it on sear all the time, smoke doesn't know the difference.
I leave mine on smoke all the time
A question as someone about to get one of these. My favorite thing to smoke is brisket. My concern is this: a brisket can take me 15-16 hours of smoke time to get through: am I able to top off charcoal/wood chunk while the grill is running the way I can with my pellet smoker, or will the air flow cause all the charcoal to go up?
You can add more charcoal and wood as it burns down. It will cause a little fluctuation as more airflow is introduced, but it won’t be detrimental. You would only need to fill it a second time for a brisket… maybe 3 times depending on how far you let it burn down the first time
I own a "900" series. Basically a 800 with a pizza oven included for Costco. I also own serveral pellet grills, and gas grills. While I really enjoy my MB grill it had the most extensive assembly I've ever delt with. The assembly is the worst part of this grill.
Where can i buy the attachments you show the other vedio,,
I say don't buy any masterbuilt. I called them about an issue of my temp saying 400 degrees but the actual temp inside was hardly above 200 degrees (about a year into having the 1050 model). I know there is something wrong, but I can't figure it out. I tried to call them and email them multiple times with no callback. I honestly can't wait for a company like rec tec to make a charcoal one. Sorry to hijack your video, but it's pissing me off to no end that I am getting no response from them.
love my 560 pefect size for me. if i need more room i fire up another pit. lol
The 800 is just ever so slightly bigger with a little nicer touch, but the 560 is still great.
800 looks interesting, have they now fixed the hopper deterioration ? ... made no sense to me to design a hopper where metal disintegrates.
I’m running mine with zero mods at the moment to see how it holds up!
How's this grill vs the chargrill gravity??? Im shopping trying to pick between them. Thanks
With the griddle and rotisserie the MB800 is a way more versatile grill. I haven’t got to cook much on the MB800 yet but from what I have it has been a great grill. My only qualm with the Char-Griller is the temperature situation… if you check out my temperature test video on the Char-Griller you will see what I’m talking anout
@@AndersonsSmokeShow ya it was 599 and they raised the price to 750. I personally like the build on it a little better but I have seen alot people with fan and flap issues. I dont think I can justify the the price increase. So now I am second guessing haha
Have they addressed the lid switch on the 2nd gen? The first gen had a plastic. Lid switch that would start to melt if you ran it to 700° like it says you can.
I get what you are talking about with the cord. The new cord now looks like its weather rated and it looks like thicker insulation so it can take a beating.
I looked at an assembled new 560 at Home Depot, and the heat defector already had rust on the top welded end... which is not encouraging for a never used unit. The other floor unit did not. How is rust holding up? How are vents / openings protected if you have a light rain while cooking? (Planning to store indoors). Gen2 560 or 800.
Hmm I wonder why… I haven’t had any issues with rust honestly but I keep mine inside when it’s not being used. The vents seem like they are sort of backwards as they point in rather than protect the elements from coming in.
Owned them with the power cord..lol!
I’m tempted to grab the 560 while it’s $397 at Home Depot. I’m just not sure. Is it reliable? I want to “upgrade” from pellet and I need a direct flame options
Not a bad deal!
@@AndersonsSmokeShow would you grab the gravity series or the Pitboss 700 for the same price. Both will give me the direct flame for searing I want but obviously one is charcoal and the other still pellet
How do hot and cold spots compare on the bottom level between the two? I have the 560 and cook on the middle rack because temperatures are more even.
Posting a video today!
What is the graphety 800 series smoker performance in winter weather
With the double wall construction it seems to do pretty well. It’ll use my charcoal to maintain temperature, but it hasn’t struggled on me.
1050 selling for same as 800 now
Just brought the 800 tonight for $200 off at Walmart $497 before tax😎
Great snag right there!
On the 800 master built I know about keeping the pit clean is there a way to improve on it.
Not really... some people cook on the middle rack and put a foil pan on the main rack to catch the grease and drippings.
My question. With a full hopper of briquettes at 225, how long will it go for before needing to add more?
Roughly 10hrs
I was going to say 8ish hours
Another great video! Any idea why they wouldn't add the griddle option for the 1050? I imagine that's something they could deliver for around $1000. I chose the 800 over the 1050 specifically for the griddle, but had that been an option on the 1050, I would have gone bigger in a heartbeat.
I would assume that its a marketing thing.... have to give people a reason to want the 800 over the 1050
There’s aftermarket parts to make this happen on the 1050.
Do they offer one on the 560? I don’t see one.
You can just buy a cast iron plate and lay it on the grill rack
Thinking of buying a 800 but the reviews are a bit variable… what to do? Rust really a issue? Does the electrics give many errors? Can somebody give me a honest opinion? Greetings from The Netherlands!
I personally haven't had any errors. I keep mine in the garage when its not in use, so mine doesn't really see the weather that some might...
Do you think it worth buying a mod cooking upper grate?
Actually I think larger shelves would be great!
I am looking for the doors seals, do you know where I can find them?
The gaskets? If so I’d contact Masterbuilt directly… or get some aftermarket ones off Amazon
Masterbuilt sent me an 800 AFTER I sent then $695 🤣
😂
I don't understand how the entire charcoal hopper does not light off?
the way the air is directed through the hopper, it burns from the bottom and is replaced with new charcoal as its needed.
does masterbuilt sell a hot plate for the 560 so we can do those awesome smash burgers?
No but you could buy a lodge cast iron griddle and put it right inside the grill
Does it keep burning the charcoal after you shut it down
Maybe a tad, but when you shut it down and close all the vents it smothers the fire out.
I bought the bigger 1050 one figured I regret it later. I thought 799 couldn't beat it.
I wouldn’t regret the 1050 at all!
@@AndersonsSmokeShow cooked a few things on it and I'm loving it so far. The next up is a brisket on it.
The fan in my 560 keeps cutting on and off and isn’t working well and my door sensors aren’t working so I might get a new one. Only had it for under 2 years
Dang…. Personally never had an issue with my 560 or 800
@@AndersonsSmokeShow Do you think it’s going to go on sale or should I just pay full price.
The 800 or 1050
Usually they’ll go on sale in the fall
Depends on how many people you cook for. I’m perfectly fine with the 800
I had a masterbuilt and it was a massive waste of money. 2 years of ownership and nothing but problems. Control went out twice, rotisserie went out twice, power cables melted, multiple fan failures. Not to mention the pop can thin steel they use with cheap paint so your constantly sanding down rust and repainting with high temp paint.
I have a Masterbuilt 560, and the only issues I’ve had is the control panel. I can’t even call it an issue because I was the one who damaged it. I’ve also had a few issues with the safety switches but as long as I clean them off every so often they work fine.
I have had the 800 two years and so far zero problems
How does this grill handle cooking hotdog??? Is this grill overkill (wasting money on charcoal) when I want to cook small items for lunch…
I’m not sure if I’m better off getting a propane/charcoal grill… for when I want to to cook a small meal..
People use it to “just grill” all the time, but if you have zero intent on smoking, and are just going to focus on small thing then it may be overkill.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow my question is for the simple day I want to just cook “a” hotdog (something small) is this grill overkill… meaning the amount of charcoal used to get the grill rolling… is this grill good for those days???
I can see this grill great for the days I’m smoking ribs and cookouts…that’s why I’m interested in this grill… but I’m seeing it being costly on charcoal if I’m wanting to cook a single item…
So the question remains..
Would you up fire this master built grill for a hotdog… or would you fire up a propane grill??
For how long you’d need the fire, I don’t think its going to waste that much charcoal… The only thing I see is the convenience factor. Is it worth the start-up effort for a few dogs.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow that’s my concern.. probably I will look into the charcoal/propane grill combo’s..
The 800 is $450 at my Costco I’m very tempted
Not a bad price! Keep in mind that theirs doesn’t come with the griddle
Buyer beware: I purchased a 560 model instead of a pellet grill and have temp and Bluetooth issues. Don't get this wrong problems with anything you buy but their is no product support no 800 number to Call and no support if you have problems . Their reasons for help is threw Is numerous emails and it's always 3 to 4 days to get a response and they answer the question with a question. This grill I have is 4 months old it was a gift from my kids and used 5 times and I can live with no Bluetooth but the cook chamber temp is off by 30 degrees. I was sent a new prob and it worked for two times but its doing it again. The online registration is no good they want 3 pic of the problem when sending it is rejected to many gigabytes like its impossible to register it and again they only communicate threw emails and takes forever to get help or the right help. Just saying if you spent 500 to 600 dollars on a grill make sure you have product masterbuilt has none. So my kids took it back and bought a pellet grill that has good support. Good luck.
I’ve personally never had to work with their support, but that’s obvious disappointing to hear. I’ve worked with Camp Chef support and never had an issue dealing with them.
Is the fan on the 800 better? The 560 sucks. Kept shutting off in the middle of cooks
The fan will adjust throughout the cook based off the demand for heat. At times it will shut off completely
lol i really can't believe i'm going to invest more for a 1050 and not getting the griddle. is that available to purchase separately?
Unfortunately they don’t sell them separately. Others have purchased 3rd party griddles and they worked fine
@@AndersonsSmokeShow thanks! what kind of 3rd party? I'm in europe and there aren't many available here so I have to look up for it as i need a bigger one and the 800 would be kinda small for me
What is the recommended charcoal to wood chunk ratio does everyone recommend?
I don’t necessarily follow a particular ratio. I have a little charcoal at the bottom of the hopper, then toss in about 3 decent sized chunks, add more charcoal, couple more chucks, then lastly top off with charcoal.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow Awesomeness! I have been seriously looking at the Gravity 800 because I want to "up my game" from my Pit Boss 820. Is it doing well for you still?
How many turkeys can the 560 fit?
If they were average or above, likely only one….
Wow, the price you pay is so cheap. The MB 560 in New Zealand costs $1088 USD, and the MB 800 will set you back $1470 USD!!
Wow! 😱
That’s the cost of living in paradise. At least that’s the way I look at your country.
Did masterbuilt pay you to promote their product or send their products to you? Most of the reviews ive seen that are negative are a result of the electronics display malfunctioning, not functioning or generally breaking. Can you highlight this at all?
I bought the 560 and Masterbuilt sent me the 800. I wasn’t paid for anything. In terms of issues, other than some temperature inaccuracies I haven’t had any problems.
@@AndersonsSmokeShow thanks!
Last question. The little brick that you ignite the fire with what is that exactly and does it come with the grill? Aside from charcoal just wondering the best ways to light it.
Just grabbed the 800 for $399 at Costco, they are clearing them out. Doesn't come with griddle.
The masterbuilt worth the ($$) for long term (?)
In my experience yes, especially if you can store it out of the elements
Will the 800 cord work with 560 🤔
Never thought to look 🤔
A year later and the 800 is $800.
Dang…
I bought a 560 had it for a year now I have to slam the top on the hopper to get fan to turn on and now even slamming it won't cut the fan on please help
Sounds like there’s an issue with the limit switch on the door. One thing you can do is try and push the plunger down carefully with a screwdriver and see if the fan kicks on…. If it does, you may be able to make some adjustments with the tightness of the hopper lid so that it makes better contact. If not you may have to replace the limit switch.
Any link for the switch...thank in advance