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Courtney Cox Delighted By Aristocratic Roots | Who Do You Think You Are
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2021
- Courtney Cox visits the UK to find more about the Ligon side of her family. She discovers Thomas Ligon x9 great grandfather was a descendant of Anne Berkeley - one of the most important aristocratic families at the time.
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One of the greatest shows ever. It's family history and putting us in a historical and sociological context. Fascinating to see how we are all related
Potentially we are related to 80% of the people in Britain who were alive in 1300. The other 20% had lines that died out.
The further back you go, the better the chances of finding Aristocratic connections, since they tended to have more surviving children and kept better records. In researching my own ancestry in Scotland, I found a connection to Queen Elizabeth II through her mother (the Bowes-Lyon family), but that was 20 generations back, so perhaps a million people could say something similar.
I don't know where the person who typed that comes from, but he knows very little about British genealogy.
Parish registers began in 1538 when Henry VIII ordered Thomas Cromwell to issue a mandate stipulating all baptisms, marriages and burials be recorded in parish registers. The mandate became law under Elizabeth I.
This was when the Tudors made practicing Catholicism illegal and wanted to keep tabs on the population to ensure they weren't.
Thanks to this, the working classes are able to research their ancestry, although most of us here in the UK cannot trace our ancestors beyond the Industrial Revolution when men and their families moved from small towns and villages to the big cities of today to find work.
That doesn't mean that just because records of ordinary citizens don't exist beyond a certain time that everyone descends from royals or aristocrats and if you think that having a title meant their children were more likely to survive, you are mistaken. Their healthcare was no better than anyone else's.
Queen Anne (Stuart) had 12 children out of 18 pregnancies in 16 years but only 5 living children, the rest were stillborn. Her longest surviving child, William, Duke of Gloucester died shortly after his 11th birthday. Some of her 5 children died on the same day as their births, although not stillborn.
Some royal women died during or shortly after giving birth like Jane Seymour.
Very few people descend from royals or aristocrats. There are more commoners than people with titles and let's not forget that royals and aristocrats married their cousins for generations and centuries which is why so very few people have titles.
Spot on. I have traced my roots back to the Plantagenets, Robert the Bruce and William Wallace. Almost all of us can, we would only be unique if we couldn’t.
I have also dabbled in amateur Genealogy and researched numerous family trees who’s lineage can be traced back to Charlemagne.
Everyone can 20 generations is over one million forebears.
Out of a then population only four millions.
I must be an aristocrat, I've been called a count a phew times.
Ha! Good one 🤣
LoL 😂
That guy looks like an exact mixture of Joey and Chandler.
lol, can't unsee that now
That moment you find out you're (very) distantly related to a Friends star. Too funny. It splits at Eleanor Dennys. I'm descended from Eleanor's sister, Ann.
Cool! Does that mean you's sure it's the same Eleanor Dennys?
So cool!
@@ClassicHolic yes, because out tree goes back to the same people as her before Eleanor.
That far back can find royal ancestors. My 12th great grandmother was the older sister to Anne Boylen, wife of King Henry VIII
Thomas and his wife are my 19th Great Grandparent also. Fascinating stuff!
Also Spenser family i.e., Lady Diana Spencer.
Is she related to Marks and Spencer?
Listening to her, as a Brit who just takes this sort of history as part of growing up learning, it amazes me how little Americans know about their British ancestry.
She didnt even know what an "Aristocrat" or a "Baron" was.
But she asks the right questions.
They brief the people beforehand to ask all these questions, so that all of the information can come out. I expect she knew more than she led on.
It is somewhat embarrassing
@@carokat1111 True, but It was a genuine question.
They make them ask dumb questions for the American audience
I'm distantly related to Charlemagne, but then so is everyone else.
Good video about this on Useful Charts
Does this mean that Courtney Cox and Danny dyer are distant relatives?
Not quite. Danny Dyer is a direct descendent of Edward II.
@@justonecornetto80 so are they on opposite sides x
@@natashabaker7275 Yes. Courtney Cox is descended from Roger Mortimer who helped Edward II's wife Isabella (known as the she-wolf of France) to overthrow him. He was also her lover.
Edward II is said to have been murdered on Isabella's orders by having a red hot poker inserted into his rectum but nobody is entirely sure due to the propaganda circulated about Edward because of his homosexuality.
@@justonecornetto80 very interesting indeed, thank you for the information 😁
@@justonecornetto80 You missed an opportunity to start your reply with "shut it you slaaag".
The death of Edward II in Berkeley Castle must have been quite a revelation for her.
ouch!
The same family still live in the castle.
@@ds1868 I doubt it. They'll be dead by now.
Red hot poker up the jacksy.
Oooh this one is really interesting. I want to see the rest now 😂. Does she get to visit the castle? That'd be cool.
She does - there's a link at the end of this video.
Thomas Berkley was very much "I'll be there for you" in respect of the King. His great granddaughter x19 continued that tradition for a group of benign middle class yuppies in the 1990s. cool
Congratulations👏 on finding your aristocratic and even Royal ancestors!
I understand the shock and surprise as I too, have aristocrats and Royalty many generations back on my Mother's side lines.
It's so interesting and doing a family tree opens up so much sometimes. You have to remember that MANY people have these connections. One just has to start researching to find them. 😊❤️
Although this is interesting stuff, it's not particularly unique. If you go back hundreds of years, you've literally got thousands of ancestors and if you're English chances are that at least one of your ancestors is from the nobility. For instance I'm directly descended from a Superintendent of the Tower of London. His daughters married into the English royal family. Furthermore my mother's maiden name was Barclay, a family name derived (via Scotland) from the Berkeley family mentioned in this video. So I'm almost certainly a distant relative of Courtney Cox. However I'm not typing this to claim that my ancestry is anything special; quite the opposite; if you're of English origin you'll almost certainly find connections like this if you go back far enough and search hard enough.
This is incorrect. The vast majority have no royal ancestors, and it doesn't matter how far you go back. I also wonder how tenuous your 'derived from' claim is.
@@TR4zest Well I have no method of sending you my family tree for you to verify it, but it goes back to the 15th century; Richard Woodville or Wydeville if you want to google him. Also I would refer you to sarah woodbury article above.
As far as I know, on my dad's side, my ancestors were pig farmers from Bedfordshire.
@@spanishpeaches2930 What all of them, male and female for hundreds of years? That would be unusual. Unique I would say.
@@spanishpeaches2930 Sorry that my previous reply was a bit flippant. It's just that some people that have replied to my initial post don't realise how genealogy works. Assuming that there are five generations per century, and as everyone obviously has two parents, then over a period of just a few centuries every single one of us has potentially tens of thousands of ancestors and that on an island like Great Britain, if you're of British origin, then we're basically all related, the nobility included. Try it on a calculator 2x2x2x2 and so on. Of course some people will have had children with third, fourth, fifth cousins etc, but even taking that into account all of us have thousands of ancestors over a relatively small period of time.
She’s from the south most of us have British ancestry
Wonderful .. love it
The modern town of Berkeley is sort of the UK equivalent of a US rust-belt town like Flint Michigan or somewhere like that, except it just happens to have a castle in the middle of it. Berkeley University in the US, incidentally, gets its name from the philosopher George Berkeley, not the town/family.
Baron is the lowest peerage not just below king that would be a duke
Count is below Duke as well
Dukes didn't exist in England until the 14th century, Thomas De
Berkely was made a Baron in the 13th century. Only a handful of Earls were of higher status.
It is now. It wasn't back then
@@shaunmac6851Duke William of Normandy.
That little minx will always be my Queen 👑
Ross is going to be sooooo jealous!
Courtney and I are related. We share both Lygon and Bass ancestors.
Eh? Did he say a “ Baron “ is just under a King? If so then that’s not true. A baronet is the lowest of the aristocracy.
A baronet and a baron are distinct titles. Barons ranked higher than knights and lords, so hardly the lowest, especially a feudal baron (barony being the highest degree of feudal land tenure) was a lord of many manors and a vassal of the King.
@@Hoganply baron is a lord! Knights aren’t aristocratic.
I think he is trying to simplify the term
@@jnicholas-windsoramyisrael46 At this point in time a Baron ranked significantly higher than they do now (although they outrank the baronets by a long way still). They were created so that the King could rally more money for ventures since essentially the title could be purchased but their power came due to their resultant political influence (whereas Dukes etc generally only had such influence at court the Baron's also held sway over every level of society due to their economic power)
@@RB-747 Interesting! I’ve never heard that before, thanks.
How exciting to find out
The chances of anyone being able to accurately trace their genetic ancestor back this far are extremely slim; for the simple reason that women have babies by men who are not their legal husband. If that happens just once the entire ancestry from that point backwards is wrong. And it happens all the time, even centuries ago...
Cuz has a two generation jump on me :) Thomas de Berkeley is my 20th Great Grandfather :)
A Baron is the lowest of titled rank, below Viscount, Earl, Marquess and Duke, not immediately below the King.
That's what I was thinking too. However, maybe a Baron was of higher status then, because it was the Barons who forced John to sign the Magna carta.
At that period of time, being a baron meant something like being part of the house of lords. Baron could be, in this context, another word for peer but without all the democracy that we enjoy today.
In 13th Century England there were no Dukes or Marquesses or Viscounts and Earls didn’t really exist yet, but there were some around, but Barons were far more significant entities than they are today
@Mark Weaver No it did not. A baron was simply a knight banneret. Below an earl, a marquis and a duke.
@@HJPlays Wrong, wrong, wrong! There were earls.
Anyone of us could have 1 million 18 x great grand parents, so it is not at all remarkable to have aristocratic ancestors that far back.
It's just hard to document. Just a few lost documents can ruin the chain of ancestry.
Who do you think you are? I AAAAMMMM!!!
Danny dyer is sone how relelated to her his ancestors are the moritiners too
Could she BE more aristocratic ?
My Great Uncle was George the plumber
Everybody wants to be a cat 😹
Classy lady, its the English heritage 😉
So why would Thomas Ligon move to the states if he supposedly had land and status?
Guessing he didn’t. Just because you’re descended from someone doesn’t mean you inherit anything.
We are cousins! William is my 25th Great Grandfather.Royal Ancestry in my family goes through France Wales England Spain Mercia Scotland. I found thousands of royal ancestors.
Thought all Americans were Irish
Free PALESTINE
At least she has a sense of humor.
So danny dayer and courtney cox are relitives
Imagine if everything they told the guests was all lies?
Is it just me or does she come across as a tad dim with her questions
I think it’s good that she was honest and asked when she didn’t understand rather than feigning comprehension.
Maybe, but it's likely to be to ask the questions the viewers have
I think it's the Tony Robinson time team kind of thing, where he acted a bit dim to get answers from the archaeologists that we would want to know. But he knew them really.
Everybody in Britain is related to royalty that is a fact.
There will be no living with her now, I can hear her now.. in you're face Jennifer
As English person I’m just wondering why he says “ Barkley “ when its actually Berkeley. 🤔 now I no why it’s a syndrome called toss pot syndrome.
Barclay is the correct pronunciation.
That's just the correct pronunciation.
Barclay is right. Like ‘Darby’ as the pronunciation for Derby.
Sorry . But the Brainiac is correct. In modern, general, RP English that is the consensus pronunciation.
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You have to understand generations and how we are all related to each other, that includes royalty, it is not a big thing to find you have a bloodline that includes Kings and Queens so calm down you are not that special.
It's a huge thing to find out you had roaly bloodline especially in England
No, everybody of British heritage is related to royalty therefore no big deal.
@@marnfulda1758 no they aren't hahaha. I'm am British I can trace my family tree to late saxons and theres no royalty in my line. You are clueless. Imigaine saying what you just said. 😂😂😂
Oh dear me, change the record, almost all of us can trace our lineage back to royalty, we would only be unique if we couldn’t 🤦🏻♀️
2:33 "...the British Aristocracy..." - that's English aristocracy. The United Kingdom of Great Britain wouldn't come to be for centuries to come. English and British aren't synonymous.
A throw back to the Norman conquest ,, they're all well gone now
The American version is just so naff.
and that’s how you get a job in Hollywood.
Clearly shes had a lot of work done.
sup
The aristocrats reminds me of the High Sparrow from Games of Thrones
So much frustration and anger back then...why couldn't they just be fRiEnDS?
royalty.
Olivia Colemans interview was so good, but why does Courtney's seem very patronizing.
What no oppression to exploit? And she’s still proud? Won’t last long in medialand
Money...🙄 these americans...
Thomas Ligma?
Haha. I am also related to the Berkeleys, that means Courtney Cox is my cousin !!
So from baron to common entertainer and a colonial - how the mighty have fallen.
Well she probably has more money and the likelihood of being drawn and quartered is somewhat diminished.
Her net worth is probably higher than than his.
Gosh she's quite cocky!
What happened to Courtney's mouth - surely she didn't have one of these lip jobs? She was gorgeous before. So Sad...
Its a shame, she used to look pretty in the natural 90's
She had her work undone after she regretted it and is going for a more natural look. She looks fine here, she’s in her 50s
@@Reva-mz8yl Nah, once you damage your body like that, it will always show to some degree.
@@1Molehill She looks beautiful here dude and like herself, just older , I really don’t see what you are seeing
I wonder how she'd have reacted if it transpired that Grandpa was a serial rapist?
IF YOUR SUIRNAME IS COX HOW THIS BERKRLEY AND LIKLEY COME ABOUT
Maybe she just likes Cox 😉
Think about it before typing nonsense. You have two parents, different surnames, 4 grandparents 4 different surnames etc
I wouldn't be so "delighted" knowing that i'm a descendant from criminal murderous filth with some money. 😂
You're guaranteed to be the descendant of criminal murderous filth. But it's cool to find out that one of them had some money.
So 1,741286601844371e-4 % of her ancestors was a noble. 1 of the 524.288 ancestors . that entails 19 generations.
A bit disrespectfull to the rest of her ancestors.
bErkley, not bArkley. GeneOlogy, not geneAlogy.
genealogy is the correct spelling and British pronunciation pronounces it with an A
Brits pronounce things like 'clerk', and 'Hertfordshire', and 'Berkley' as 'clark', 'Hartfordshire, and 'Barkley', respectively.
I'm a brit, no we don't
@@bexfun I'm a Brit and I and other people I know would say it like that. I will differentiate between accents and regions.
@@bexfunYes we do we use an 'A' sound - if you don't then maybe you have a regional accent?
What's with Courtney's lips?
As much as I admire Nick Barratt, genealogist, I have to question the validity of the family tree that he has presented to Courtney Cox.
How can anyone know for certain who Anne Berkeley's ancestors were when you don't know when they were born, never mind when they died.
Without a baptism, you can't possibly know who her parents were.
As he said … loads was written about the family ..
Wills are a probably the best source of information. They list wives, children, siblings, grandchildren, & even their friends & neighbours who witnessed them.
Letters, Land deeds (Grants), Marriage Settlements, judicial & taxation records, are also ways of verifying that a person existed, & what their relationship to others might be.
However, you still might not know when they were born, or the exact date of their death.
@@jchisholm1968 m