@@ObsidianAntWith the constraints of orbital mechanics and a strong focus on the ship's systems this is a very niche project IMHO. And so that makes the comments from a much larger audience than usual all the more interesting 📝. Thank you very much again!
Okay, you have my attention. Way back in the pc Stone Age, I had a game for my Apple IIc called Universe (I think, it’s been awhile). You needed the second floppy drive to play. The manual was a freaking huge binder that had a built in stand so you could have it open while playing. To orbit you had to figure out in input everything it was more an orbital math training program than game but it was fun. Kinda wish I kept all those old games and that old apple….
Absolutely glad you're covering this gem. I've been playtestsing it for a few months as of now and this is one of the most detailed simulation I've ever had in my hands.
I'm just wondering if there are any plans for VR compatibility? Also, it might be worth mentioning that motion simulators are becoming more popular these days, so outputting telemetry across UDP might be worth doing. 👍
@@Roughpaws_Studio this is a one guy job, and he his focusing on core gameplay mechanics. So no idea about VR right now. First job was having a faithfull galaxy (npc trafic, distribution of news data across systems and so on). Right now the ship is mostly complete, with supplies, maintenance, life support and core ship functionalities such as power, cooling, navigation planner, space positionning and accuracy, communications. He's now entering what he calls the "gamification", with actual missions and other things like that. You can follow what he does on his Website.
It's a really amazing game made by a very passionate developer. Most of the system layers are already in, and he will be working on more of the 'game' layers (missions, progression, NPC interaction, etc.) very soon. Even now, though, it's super fun. I cannot wait to see how it shapes up this year.
you cannot build rotating habitats, with that arrangement, because the torsion differential along the core, the long axis, is way too high... it will shred itself.
Probably the most realistic simulator of a starship ever created. The system diagrams are outstanding, and every system is simulated in detail. Granted I'm somewhat biased as I am also on the testing team, but I say this having been on the KSP1 QA team and a member of the team that created Attack Vector: Tactical, as well as an avid player of CoaDE and Rogue System.
It is kind of like 'Orbiter' but developed into a more rounded game. Fantastic if you can land on the (procedurally generated) planets; in other words aspects of gameplay missing in Elite
The best thing about this is the developer didn't need to milk over half a billion out of it's 'backers' over a decade-long ponzi sc..I mean crowdfund campaign.
oh wow, this game is doing so much right. a perfect combination of Children Of a Dead Earth, Elite, Rogue system (UI and indepth systems), KSP, and the High frontier board games. i cannot wait to play this, i've dreamt of a space game that uses the complexity of orbital mechanics and hard sf tech (fusion rives, radiators etc) to its advantage!!
@@TheDavP there is a revival project by some people close to the original creator, they are working toward entirely rebuilding the game since the source code has been lost to a house fire or flood. you can sign up to a newsletter and updates but i can't remember where.
The way this looks in the video, it seems right for those realistically inclined full blow home made cockpit set ups or even a full command bridge system.
Looks interesting, I would say though at this stage, a massive amount of work needs done on those planets and planetary textures, to give a sense of distance and scale/size. Right now it just looks like toys orbiting a large beach ball xD
What's funny is if you make a space game that's too advanced and too accurate that's able to play on a normal computer the flight control system might genuinely make the military question what you're up to making it available for everybody to use
I do love your content, but every time you feature a game i end up trotting off to steam only to find it's not available yet, or, as in this case, not even listed. I may be coming across as a bit of a moaner, and you'd be right, but this also hurts the devs who's game you feature as this is possibly the only coverage of their game, and then people, like me, try to buy it only to find it's not available yet, and then we forget about it meaning the dev loses potential sales.
A light 4x element would be awesome similar to the way starsector does it but with ground combat. Its part of the reason Im so waiting for fragile existense to drop.
7:15 "children of a dead earth" is the most realistic space/orbital combat sim. This looks like a great noncombatant and FTL complement where that game is purely orbital battles that remind me of The Expanse
My dream game is basically a whole bunch of my favorite games' concepts and features mashed into one thing; Orbital and atmospheric flight mechanics from KSP, avatars/character models from vrchat, boneworks/bonelab/VTOLVR style interactions for your hands, Elite Dangerous' sound design, and semi-realistic graphics that prioritizes believability and readability over realism. I hope someday we can have something like this, it'd be amazing.
my game (my design): "Orbital and atmospheric flight mechanics" check "avatars/character models from vrchat" ... what do you mean? compatibility with vr and full body tracking? customizable avatars? both things? I didn't plan on avatars, I didn't thought it mattered... do you really care about it? I guess I don't have that but dunno if it is that important... "interactions for your hands" I'm guessing realistic flight controls? you phrase it so weirdly but I think I have what you mean "Elite Dangerous' sound design" I don't have that one, I plan on realistic sound design which is simple and boring, no crazy unrealistic alien WOMWOMs "realistic graphics" check
@@NeroDefogger by avatars/characters from VRC I mean the variety and customization in vrc, everything from meme avatars to furries to generic people would be fair game, as for realistic controls I'm referring to controls similar to VTOL VR in which you actually grab the control stick and throttle, as well as buttons and switches yiu actually press/manipulate.
@@HirschfeldWillamette I would like avatars, but the reason those avatars are in vrchat is because people make them, the community, the game would need that, but yeah I could do that (oh and the game should get famous). and to have controls that use a control stick you need a control stick, but if you have it then yeah you can use it
@@NeroDefogger go take a look at VTOL VR's controls and you'll see what I mean, all you need is the vr headset and controllers, no HOTAS shit needed :D
Planets look like beach balls. So similarly to elite dangerous, the galaxy is 1:1 in span but not in depth and variety. This is a very last Gen approach to space games that focused on numerical permutation over rich curated or procedurally assisted hand crafted experiences. I hope the devs reconsider this decision. As we learned from starfield, contemporary gamers will no longer be impressed with planet count, system count, or claims of 1:1 scale. Gamers are looking for rich, deep, and meaningful interaction with environments and not simply seeing the same identical assets procedurally scattered over and over. Elite dangerous failure to retain players even as less than 1% of the game galaxy was ever explored speaks as to the problem with procedural generation where more numbers is not necessarily better.
@@PurPle-oh8sn graphics power depth. Rain. Clouds. Weather. Oceans. Volcanisme. All are depth, graphics, and immersion. All are in our solar systems. These dead flat and shallow 1:1 galaxies are in breath only, not depth. The days where a beach ball is a planet are long gone.
I enjoy teasing flat earthers by asking one of two questions depending on if they think they are smart or not. If they think they are smart, I ask them to explain why orbital mechanics work for a flat planet.. and if they dont come off as scientific, I ask them if the earth is flat, why cats havent knocked everything off the edge yet?
Getting faint 'Children of a Dead Earth' vibes. This pleases me!
ASG dev here 👨🔧Thank you for presenting the project! ☺
Hey nice to see you here! Alliance Space Guard is looking awesome! :)
@@ObsidianAntWith the constraints of orbital mechanics and a strong focus on the ship's systems this is a very niche project IMHO. And so that makes the comments from a much larger audience than usual all the more interesting 📝. Thank you very much again!
@@d.c.elington Please make it good as RogueSystem Please, I love the project
I misread the title as 'Space Gourd' and I spend a good few seconds looking at the thumbnail thinking, 'that's no gourd, that's a space station!'
....and once again I am mopping up freshly-sprayed tea! (Chiefly because that's /exactly/ what I do)
i cant stop laughing
Okay, you have my attention. Way back in the pc Stone Age, I had a game for my Apple IIc called Universe (I think, it’s been awhile). You needed the second floppy drive to play. The manual was a freaking huge binder that had a built in stand so you could have it open while playing. To orbit you had to figure out in input everything it was more an orbital math training program than game but it was fun. Kinda wish I kept all those old games and that old apple….
As a member of the test team let me tell you this game is amazing and the developer has an attention to details that is absolutely incredible !
Game has radiators ✅️
Also kinda sounds like the original TTRPG that became the Expanse series
Absolutely glad you're covering this gem. I've been playtestsing it for a few months as of now and this is one of the most detailed simulation I've ever had in my hands.
I'm just wondering if there are any plans for VR compatibility?
Also, it might be worth mentioning that motion simulators are becoming more popular these days, so outputting telemetry across UDP might be worth doing. 👍
Lucky bastard! Gimme gimme gimme
@@Roughpaws_Studio this is a one guy job, and he his focusing on core gameplay mechanics. So no idea about VR right now. First job was having a faithfull galaxy (npc trafic, distribution of news data across systems and so on). Right now the ship is mostly complete, with supplies, maintenance, life support and core ship functionalities such as power, cooling, navigation planner, space positionning and accuracy, communications.
He's now entering what he calls the "gamification", with actual missions and other things like that.
You can follow what he does on his Website.
It's a really amazing game made by a very passionate developer. Most of the system layers are already in, and he will be working on more of the 'game' layers (missions, progression, NPC interaction, etc.) very soon. Even now, though, it's super fun. I cannot wait to see how it shapes up this year.
rare to see a game on first glance where you have absolutely no idea of what is going on
100%!
you cannot build rotating habitats, with that arrangement, because the torsion differential along the core, the long axis, is way too high... it will shred itself.
This reminds me of Children of a Dead Earth
Probably the most realistic simulator of a starship ever created. The system diagrams are outstanding, and every system is simulated in detail. Granted I'm somewhat biased as I am also on the testing team, but I say this having been on the KSP1 QA team and a member of the team that created Attack Vector: Tactical, as well as an avid player of CoaDE and Rogue System.
Attack vector is awesome.
Can we be friends, I am actually almost 60 but love games like that and this. 🙂
It is kind of like 'Orbiter' but developed into a more rounded game. Fantastic if you can land on the (procedurally generated) planets; in other words aspects of gameplay missing in Elite
I've been following the developers blog for awhile. Really looking forward to this one.
I'm so happy to see this project receive more attention, it absolutely deserves it!
This looks like it might scratch a very particular itch and I'm interested. 😁
I wonder if it'll allow hobbyists to build their own IRL cockpits?
looks cool
This looks really cool!
Wow, this looks so good! Can’t wait to play this. More games need this kind of realism!
The best thing about this is the developer didn't need to milk over half a billion out of it's 'backers' over a decade-long ponzi sc..I mean crowdfund campaign.
I've been watching this game develop for quite some time. I am very excited for it.
oh wow, this game is doing so much right. a perfect combination of Children Of a Dead Earth, Elite, Rogue system (UI and indepth systems), KSP, and the High frontier board games. i cannot wait to play this, i've dreamt of a space game that uses the complexity of orbital mechanics and hard sf tech (fusion rives, radiators etc) to its advantage!!
Rogue System was the one I thought of when I saw the UI too! I still play the beta version, hope the dev gets better. I could easily play both games.
@@TheDavP there is a revival project by some people close to the original creator, they are working toward entirely rebuilding the game since the source code has been lost to a house fire or flood. you can sign up to a newsletter and updates but i can't remember where.
@@soleenzo893 Thanks I'll have a look around. I heard that it was something that would be looked into but wasn't sure if it'd progressed at all.
holy shit people are talking about ASG
The way this looks in the video, it seems right for those realistically inclined full blow home made cockpit set ups or even a full command bridge system.
Rogue System
Looks like a spiritual successor to Rogue System
One of the best projects I've had the pleasure of being part of. I've sunk so many hours into asg
I've had a blast with the very early version of the game that currently exists. When it comes out, that'll probably be my whole month.
It is an amazing Game being made with true passion
Imagine we mix this amazing concept with Star Citizen, then wed basically be able to roleplay the ExForce books
Looks interesting, I would say though at this stage, a massive amount of work needs done on those planets and planetary textures, to give a sense of distance and scale/size. Right now it just looks like toys orbiting a large beach ball xD
What's funny is if you make a space game that's too advanced and too accurate that's able to play on a normal computer the flight control system might genuinely make the military question what you're up to making it available for everybody to use
I do love your content, but every time you feature a game i end up trotting off to steam only to find it's not available yet, or, as in this case, not even listed.
I may be coming across as a bit of a moaner, and you'd be right, but this also hurts the devs who's game you feature as this is possibly the only coverage of their game, and then people, like me, try to buy it only to find it's not available yet, and then we forget about it meaning the dev loses potential sales.
He links the game in the description.
@@chrisbark582If it isn't on Steam it doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned, plus I'm not downloading any software from some random website.
I have one question. Will it be Multiplayer?
A light 4x element would be awesome similar to the way starsector does it but with ground combat. Its part of the reason Im so waiting for fragile existense to drop.
I want this so badly.
This looks awesome!
This is a appropriate successor to KSP. When will it be ready?
Don't forget to post questions on the blog.
I started playing "There's a lot going on here" bingo.
Who else thought the thumbnail was from KSP
CoaDE x Silent Hunter 3 x KSP? Count me in.
I just want Starfield but way better and no, I'm not talking about Star Citizen or No Man's Sky.
Starfield with 64k planet textures for low orbit pass established.
7:15 "children of a dead earth" is the most realistic space/orbital combat sim. This looks like a great noncombatant and FTL complement where that game is purely orbital battles that remind me of The Expanse
This sounds very promissing. Looking forward to you keeping us up to date with that title :D
:D Like what I'm hearing.
that looks awesome
Does it do weather?
Nice looking Sim, interesting, pity about the graphics, and couldn't find it on Steam.
It's only in the early dev phase. You can find more info in the project website, and is not currently on steam.
What the other commenter said -- if you apply for testing you can get access to early builds.
My dream game is basically a whole bunch of my favorite games' concepts and features mashed into one thing; Orbital and atmospheric flight mechanics from KSP, avatars/character models from vrchat, boneworks/bonelab/VTOLVR style interactions for your hands, Elite Dangerous' sound design, and semi-realistic graphics that prioritizes believability and readability over realism. I hope someday we can have something like this, it'd be amazing.
my game (my design):
"Orbital and atmospheric flight mechanics" check
"avatars/character models from vrchat" ... what do you mean? compatibility with vr and full body tracking? customizable avatars? both things? I didn't plan on avatars, I didn't thought it mattered... do you really care about it? I guess I don't have that but dunno if it is that important...
"interactions for your hands" I'm guessing realistic flight controls? you phrase it so weirdly but I think I have what you mean
"Elite Dangerous' sound design" I don't have that one, I plan on realistic sound design which is simple and boring, no crazy unrealistic alien WOMWOMs
"realistic graphics" check
@@NeroDefogger by avatars/characters from VRC I mean the variety and customization in vrc, everything from meme avatars to furries to generic people would be fair game, as for realistic controls I'm referring to controls similar to VTOL VR in which you actually grab the control stick and throttle, as well as buttons and switches yiu actually press/manipulate.
@@HirschfeldWillamette I would like avatars, but the reason those avatars are in vrchat is because people make them, the community, the game would need that, but yeah I could do that (oh and the game should get famous). and to have controls that use a control stick you need a control stick, but if you have it then yeah you can use it
@@NeroDefogger go take a look at VTOL VR's controls and you'll see what I mean, all you need is the vr headset and controllers, no HOTAS shit needed :D
When you consider the tools available the graphics are very basic so not for me.
the dev has said he's starting work on the "gamification" part of development so my guess is that'll include graphics to some degree
The game provides an intended 'schematic view', where the interest is in the mechanics. These are pretty much the graphics of this game.
Oooo I want it.
Planets look like beach balls. So similarly to elite dangerous, the galaxy is 1:1 in span but not in depth and variety. This is a very last Gen approach to space games that focused on numerical permutation over rich curated or procedurally assisted hand crafted experiences. I hope the devs reconsider this decision. As we learned from starfield, contemporary gamers will no longer be impressed with planet count, system count, or claims of 1:1 scale. Gamers are looking for rich, deep, and meaningful interaction with environments and not simply seeing the same identical assets procedurally scattered over and over. Elite dangerous failure to retain players even as less than 1% of the game galaxy was ever explored speaks as to the problem with procedural generation where more numbers is not necessarily better.
Mechanical depth has next to nothing to do with graphics
@@PurPle-oh8sn graphics power depth. Rain. Clouds. Weather. Oceans. Volcanisme. All are depth, graphics, and immersion. All are in our solar systems. These dead flat and shallow 1:1 galaxies are in breath only, not depth. The days where a beach ball is a planet are long gone.
If the physics are good, having just wireframe graphics and point particles alone would be enough.
Will you slow down, man!
This is the third fascinating, thought-provoking, balanced, well-produced video today!
Sheesh!
AFTER NATE SIMPSONS CASH GRAB for KSP 2 ..........THERE IS A MARKET FOR IT
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wow 47 seconds ago this was posted talk about 1st lol
Not quite 😛
I enjoy teasing flat earthers by asking one of two questions depending on if they think they are smart or not. If they think they are smart, I ask them to explain why orbital mechanics work for a flat planet.. and if they dont come off as scientific, I ask them if the earth is flat, why cats havent knocked everything off the edge yet?
Wasn't that opening statement used by Bethesda to sell Starfield to the masses... 🤣