❤️BIBLE VERSE OF THE DAY❤️ REVELATION 5:5 NIV 5 Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”
1 Corinthians 15:54-57 “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?” The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen my sister in Christ. Keep up the good work!
When asked if he wanted his son's body disinterred to be brought back home to Boston for burial, Frank Shaw replied "We would not have his body removed from where it lies surrounded by his brave and devoted soldiers. ... We can imagine no holier place than that in which he lies, among his brave and devoted followers, nor wish for him better company. - what a body-guard he has!"
my favorite part of that story is that the confederates threw him in with the regiment as a demeaning gesture, which his father then turns into that, one of the best stories of our history
@@shaneparsg1681 shaw, and his whole regiment, were so underrated in American history. What a haunting beautiful fucking story. We must never let their memories fade.
This quote from Shaws Father was beautiful “We would not have his body removed from where it lies surrounded by his brave and devoted soldiers… what a body-guard he has!”
From an old white guy.. who happens to be a Civil War buff and amateur military historian, you impress me as a very insightful, intelligent and beautiful young lady. Your reaction truly warms my heart and gives me hope for the younger generations of all Americans. Thank you for making my day! God Bless. 😎❤️
I am a combat vet and what you have just seen is how the brotherhood developers in soldiers . Sometimes even closer than our own families . Thank you for this and God bless you
As a black man and veteran who served 24 years in the military this is one of my favorite movies. I think sometimes people watch this movie with a 21st century mindset but dont realize the 19th century mindset is on display. All these years later and the struggle still remains.
Same struggle because blacks ain't united. Slavery to freedom, freedom but segregated, segregation to equal rights(this is where Americans have up hold their responsibilities, the next part, no one else to blame but yourselves), equal rights to self segregation, self segregation to tribalism, tribalism with media culture to this day. Things are made fun like crazy, the blacks have huge shafts, with laughter and pride, proceed to screw everything with most confident, other's girlfriends, fiances, wives, drunks, cheaters and even gold diggers, no bars held back. Make tons of money from sport and music, proceeds to destroys their bank account as well. And then wonder why black women in US are in current state. You spoiled them, you neglected them, and now they want more, hungrier to be spoiled and expecting to be neglected. And then you just watch an entire generation of women put their faith on the wrong matriarch, Oprah and what they learned from older generation. And then the feminist movement got them, and you are more than screwed. Because women ARE the backbone of a society and culture.
There is debate over if or not Broderick (who often played himself) was a good actor or not and my dad would always fire back "Watch that Civil War movie." (and Ladyhawk)
This was the battle where Sgt William Carney earned his Medal Of Honor.When the 54th was ordered to retreat,In that moment of danger Carney remembered the flag that represented all he held dear and was fighting to protect that day. Rather than dropping the flag and fleeing for his life, he wrapped the flag around the staff to protect it and ran down an embankment. Stumbling through a ditch, chest-deep in water, he held his flag high. Another bullet struck him in the chest, another in the right arm, then another in his right leg. Carney struggled on alone, determined not to let his flag fall to the enemy.With indomitable courage Sergeant Carney replied, “No one but a member of the 54th should carry the colors.” Despite the sounds of rifle and cannon fire that followed him, Carney struggled on. Another enemy bullet found its mark, grazing his head, but Carney wouldn’t quit.Amid the cheers of his battered comrades Sergeant Carney finally reached safety. Before collapsing among them from his many wounds his only words were, “Boys, I only did my duty. The flag never touched the ground.”Every flag bearer in the US Army will always be reminded to carry the flag just like Sgt Carney did,It's been over 40 years isnce the first time I heard those words back in Fort Jackson,SC.
Sergeant Carney earned a Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroism at Battery Wagner. There is a monument to him in Norfolk, Virginia, completed in 1920. It is one of the very few monuments to United States Colored Troops erected in the Jim Crow south.
Those same regimental colors are in the rotunda of the State House (The Hall of Flags) and right across the street is the bronze relief honoring the soldiers of the 54th shown at the end of the film
@@soupsoup1031 For me as a young man,I will never forget in 1976 that Rick Monday of the Dodgers saved Old Glory from two protesters trying to burn it,that's the moment I said to myself that when I'm old enough I will serve under that flag and all it stands for.
Shaw was actually being merciful with a flogging. The punishment for desertion in the civil war was death by hanging. However, a commanding officer could flog instead but had to file a report to the War Department justifying the lessor punishment
Flogging was outlawed in the Union army at the start of the war. So almost no one was flogged on the Union side. The Confederacy outlawed flogging in 1862. There are instances of men being flogged in the Union army after the law was passed, but those officers who ordered it were almost always court-martialled. It’s more likely that a deserter would be branded with a “D” for desertion. Usually on the cheek, hand, or hip. Sometimes the brand was done with a tattoo. Only 147 deserters were executed by the Union over the entire Civil war.
@@bobsylvester88 Flogging did take place but not like that. On the Union side if you deserted and were caught you were just put back. If you did it a 2nd time you would be put in a military prison usually for a year and be forced to do hard labor. Whipping or beating the crap out of a prisoner in the military prisons was fairly common and not punished.
The tall white soldier who fought Denzel and later yelled "Give em hell" was Kevin Jarre, the screenwriter. He also wrote Tombstone. Check out the wiki for Col. Shaw. Broderick looks just like him!
Indeed. There is another tender coincidence: the real-life Shaw attended Fordham University. Over one hundred years later, Denzel Washington graduated with honours from an exceptionally well-regarded acting program --in the same-said Fordham University.
The American Civil War was well-known for ridiculously fast promotions of officers, often to the detriment of their troops. the fact that he has been given such a high rank so quickly and feels ill-prepared for it was part of Shaw's character throughout the movie. Love the scene where he gives Freeman's character the rank of Sargent Major and share's his trepidation at being "kicked upstairs."
Denzel's performance was so captivating that he became my favorite actor when this movie came out. A male movie star should had charisma, and Denzel has tons of it.
I understand that flogging/ whipping was a standard punishment practice, regardless of race. In my reaction, I also iterated what whipping meant for black people during this time. For slaves, this was not a standard punishment practice coming from the military. For even the smallest infractions, slaves faced brutal whippings at the hands of their masters. For black individuals who were beaten by their masters, "whipping" has a distinct significance. This is the point I was trying to articulate. When the col. whips Trip it can evoke a sense of bondage and submission to another person. I appreciate the respectful discord within the comments section 😊
I think that the scene was the first time Robert realized that the action had totally different meanings because of the historical context. For a white soldier, it is painful and humiliating, but doesn't have the added association with the slavery. For Robert, he was originally thinking of it as "everyone gets the same treatment," while in the end, he realized that it absolutely wasn't the same treatment. ETA: Thank goodness, the entire practice of whipping in the military became moot as the practice was prohibited for everyone.
Agreed. It’s the meaning behind Forbes pleading with Shaw by his emphasizing “not to THEM.” Whipping a former slave, in front of former slaves, sends a very different message than the flogging would have to a northern white soldier. It’s a different kind of cruelty, with a net-negative effect. The commenters who say that it was a mercy are not only betraying their own callousness, but missing the point that the movie is very clearly trying to make. If they’re going to lean that hard into historical accuracy, and Trip get a death sentence, then he’d just be thrown into a cell, and that’s probably the last we would’ve seen of him for the movie. They wouldn’t have on-the-spot put him in front of a wall during basic training. There’s a not so insignificant chance that Lincoln would have pardoned him, as he was well known to do for deserters who awaited execution. There’s plenty about this movie that’s not historically accurate, as is the case with EVERY historical film. It’s important to pay attention to the story being told.
Just so you know that scene would never happen at that time of the war. Both the Union and Confederates had outlawed flogging in the army. The standard punishment was usually public humiliation for desertion of rank or if done multiple times death. However the vast majority, especially in the Union, were appealed. Lincoln was known to pardon many soldiers personally. Though punishment at times in the Confederate States varied they basically did the same because some Confederate soldiers who grew up in rural areas would dessert and go back home to help out then return back to the army. Once again by the time of the 54th flogging was banned. it was put in the movie for most likely dramatic reasons.
It was a joy watching your reaction to this great movie. I could feel both your pain and pride for these heroic men. I was never taught the story of Robert Shaw and the 54th as it was never mentioned in my high school history book. I first learned of the 54th watching Glory. It's a shame, as in my eyes, these are the heroes that America should be proud of. Their story must be told and passed on from generation to generation.
I absolutely love this movie. It's so moving. The part where he greets the soldiers and then they march to the beach at the end fills me with so many emotions.
My Civil War reenacting club took part along with several others doing the combat scenes and training the actors and many extras for this film. It was an experience I can tell you. Most of the extras were right off the street and didn't have a clue about the civil war or Black Soldiers in it. It came out well though. We also did the combat scenes for Gettysburg, Gods and Generals, Dances with Wolves and numerous History Channels episodes. T. Boyte, Capt. Norfolk Light Artillery, CSA National Civil War Assn.
This time was the beginning of one of the realization of one of the founding principles of our country ..that all men are created equal endowed by GOD ALMIGHTY with rights… I’m still praying everyday that the completion will happen in my lifetime.. one of my heroes dr. Martin Luther King Jr had a dream people judge by content of character not by skin color… it will happen when both black and white except the truth… that we are ALL GODS CHILDREN ❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I remember seeing this on the big screen when it first came out. Amazing. It still holds up extremely well - even period pieces tend to reflect the era they were produced. Very enjoyable reaction!
I just discovered your channel just now, and I am giving you a subscribe. I am saying good evening to you from my home of NYC. Also I still have the original VHS tape of Glory from my childhood.
mr douglas married the white daughter of abolitionists who disowned her immediately. so much for the strength of their convictions. some things never change. as soon as he can every black man gets a white woman. look at the nba wives, oj, kjp
I see that this movie touched you emotionally, I regret to inform you that the monument to those men was vandalized by BLM and ANTIFA "activists" because they thought it was offensive that the figure of Colonel Shaw was on horseback while his men were walking, they did not care that the officers always went on horseback in all companies regardless of their color.
@@VictorGiler-or1mr First of all, white soldiers also walked when officers rode horses, and secondly, the US was the third country to try to abolish slavery after the UK and France. We are talking about the 19th century, in the previous ten thousand years of human history slavery was seen as normal and there was no precedent for what to do in such a situation, it was improvised as they went along. Judging the actions of that time with the logic of today makes no sense. But if it makes you feel better you should know how white slaves who were captured by Muslims from the Turkish and Ottoman empires as well as the countries of North Africa were forced to walk while their masters rode horses. Because in case you don't know, between the 9th and 14th centuries, the countries mentioned above made raids on European countries to capture the inhabitants of coastal villages and sell them as slaves, it is estimated that the number of white slaves captured in those centuries was between 6 to 8 million, many of them from Eastern Europe, from the Slav region, considering that the majority of the white slaves captured came from that region, that was what gave rise to the word slave.
Unfortunately flogging was the standard punishment for desertion at the time. Shaw was simply doing what was done at the time to keep order within the regiment.
Pretty sure that's only 1/2 factually correct. Because Shaw was put in charge of colored troops he was probably given the implicit or even explicit right to "preserve order and maintain discipline any way he saw fit." That definitely happened among military commanders during the American Civil War with their troops. Probably, the vast majority of incidents like this were simply never reported. Shaw probably could have shot any one of those colored troops on the spot for any number of deemed "acts of disobedience" and gotten away with it. So much of warfare in the past is unrecorded history.
Oh and the military structure is that for a very good reason. It seems heartless, but war is heartless. The first rule of war...young men (and women) die. The second rule is that doctors cannot change rule number one.
Ms CaliforniaBlend (if that’s what I may call you) never be afraid to let the tears flow. The emotions are what we are here for regardless of what emotion it may be. Yell when you’re angry and also laugh as loud as you like. It all makes for a great reaction. Also I want to congratulate you on 40K followers. That number will only grow. Maybe closing in on 50K by the end of the year.
The soundtrack to this movie is one of my favorites of all time - the Harlam Boys Choir singing O'Fortuna during the storing of Fort Wagner gave me chills when I saw this movie in the theatre as a kid. Interesting historical fact - Frederick Douglass's sons fought with the 54th.
Think about this, how would the other enlisted men feel about Thomas and treat him if he had special privileges from Col. Shaw? Col. Shaw needed to be fair and impartial
Your reaction and thoughts about Glory was very touching. It's been a rough road into building a nation based on "all men are created equal." But we are all Americans in the same boat now. I had an ancestor killed in this same battle at Fort Wagner, July 18th, 1863. First Sergeant Aaron McNaughton, 62nd Ohio Volunteer Infantry Regiment. When I first saw this movie in the theater in 1989, at the end, the theater was so quiet and everyone so deep in thought, you could hear a pin drop.
The Mass. 54th spent time in my hometown of Jacksonville, Florida. The ill-fated naked frontal assault of Fort Wagner really happened. Several scenes were filmed on the Georgia coastal islands. One of my friends was a "rebel" extra in Fort Wagner. Blooper alert! When one of the "liberated slaves" raises his hand to cheer on the troops, you can see that he is wearing a DIGITAL WRISTWATCH.
Thanks G.! You are very knowledgeable about this period of American history! You complained no one told you the film would be so good. I would not have even known how to convey the greatness of this film to you without overly spoiling it. I will tell you that the film Gettysburg (1993), produced by Ted Turner, is about equally as good, though told mostly from a White perspective. To me, these two films go hand in hand and no Civil War study is complete without both of them. The majority feeling on RUclips seems to slightly favor Gettysburg for its extreme dedication to accuracy, realism, scale, and preserving memory of the politics and economics of the war. However, for treatment of the Northern Black experience, Glory is without peer and IMO probably shall always be. 💙
Flogging was a common punishment back then. Denzel’s character is lucky though because the alternative would’ve been being shot. The fact he was a slave is just a coincidence. The army didn’t care if you were white or black, slave or free, or rich or poor. If you committed a crime, you’d be punished.
Great reaction! There are a lot of misconceptions about the Civil War, the first being that Lincoln, and the North in general, didn't go to war to emancipate the slaves. At the time the federal government were passing legislation to prevent the newly established states in the west from being able to adopt slavery, and it were these restrictions on slavery that lead the Southern states to secede and the north went to war - not necessarily to free the slaves - but instead the ultimately invaded to prevent the southern states from seceding. As a historian it's quite frustrating the way most modern media and even how it's taught in school, the way they portray Lincoln in this simplistic and largely historically inaccurate pristine image. And the same goes for the north's attitudes toward black people at the time. When in fact abolitionists were a very small minority in the country at the time and Lincoln was never one of them, and was eventually forced to make the emancipation proclamation years into the war. You have to remember that just because northerners and Lincoln himself were anti-slavery in principle, they thought abolishing it was too extreme. At the end of the day, they may have been anti-slavery, but they were still extremely racist and most certainly didn't see blacks as being equal. This film did a great job accurately depicting how most northern whites treated black people and what they thought of them.
This movie changed my 15 year old life when I first saw this. I'm an atheist but I still always get into their spiritual rally the night before the big battle. I remember sitting in the theater and at the end when the Confederates raised their flag, the audience gasped in disappoinment. We got so invested into these characters that the sadness I felt when they all died was gut wrenching.
One of the best movies ever made with one of the best acting performances ever. Just to say a movie about the Civil War won 3 Oscars (back when they mattered) is an achievement on its own. After Braveheart this is my go to movie when it comes to history movies.
While the story is anchored in a couple of key historical events, the details are all fiction. Even so, historians love this movie for accurately depicting the period - the North isn’t whitewashed as “the good guys.”
One big Hollywood error in such films is the uniforms using wrong colors. The 54th was an Infantry unit so all ranks, trim and sashes would be blue and those red sash belts should only be worn by artillery. The other big mistake Hollywood loves to make in such films is over use of Calvary ranks with a yellow/gold base for officers when they would only belong on Calvary units. The base Navy was the standard color for Union uniforms (Though early on in the war that was less true, Irish state units might choose green) The standard for the south was Cadet Grey but butternut was more common (Again early on some even wore blue causing friendly fire cases) TNT did a number of fair civil war films including Gettysburg, Ironclads, Gods and Generals but some are quite long. Though set a bit later the best film of the type ever IMHO was TNT's Rough Riders set around Teddy Roosevelt's unit in Cuba. Would advise on Rough Riders to also listen to the commentary track as you will be amazed with what all came together for that film. Even having 2 of only 6 of a gun built for that war and firing them.
This movie did James Montgomery dirty. His raid on Combahee Ferry freed 800 slaves, and he had been fighting pro-slavery forces in Kansas and Missouri before the civil war even started.
The white union soldier that was an ass, and then said "Give them Hell , 54" is part of the crew . He's a major writer on the movie and wanted to show his feelings towards the end of the movie on how he felt.
I love this film, but it's a emotional breaker, and I don't wish to rewatch it on a Friday night. If anyone familiar that had earned my trust could tempt me, I think some Cali-blend would be very close to the top. But I'm in a different frame of mind tonight. I think I'll save this one for this coming Sunday afternoon. I have to mow the lawn, so that will be a great wat to set the mood, haha. Respect for choosing this title. ❤
While there were some differences between the actual history and the movie--this movie did an excellent job of showing the struggles of black soldiers in the Civil War. The 54th assault on Ft. Wagner is every bit as significant as the Battle of Bunker Hill. Look into the actual history of these extraordinary men--it's worth knowing One of my hobbies is painting miniatures--doing the 54th with a complete diorama is one of my ambitions.
Saw the movie in1989 in a Baltimore theater with my future wife. Driving by the theater a couple days later I asked her if we could go see it again. So, we saw it twice.
Great reaction and analysis. 5 stars. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ one of my all time favorite movies. Denzel, Mathew Broderick and Morgan Freeman gave outstanding performances.
Can you imagine being a slave and seeing people who had run away coming back as part of the northern army? It would give you hope where you never had it before. I can’t even imagine.
75% of the 54th Massachusetts were Free men. They came from all over, wealthy Americans like Douglas's 2 sons, from Canada, the West Indies, the American frontier, farms....from everywhere. Only 250 of the 1000 that made up the 54th were ex-slaves.
The image underlying the closing credits is a bas-relief sculpture on Boston Common, across from and facing the Massachusetts State House; of the 54th on the march. The colors of the 54th, the flags they carried in battle, are on display in the Rotunda of the State House. Quite a good movie. Also as 'accurate' as Hollywood ever gets with history.
People try to apply a 2024 mindset about race to an 1860s mindset about race. In the 1860s Black people were considered 2/3 of a human, even in the Union/Northern states. Even after the Civil War Black people were counted as 2/3 human in the US Census. That did not change for a number of years after the Civil War. The prevalent mindset throughout the continent was Black people were inferior to White people and less than human. Black people were not the only people who were prejudiced against. Almost all races other than White people were prejudiced against including Irish people despite Irish being White. In some ways Irish were hated more because it was not immediately apparent they were Irish until they spoke or gave their name.
I grew up in Cambridge Mass. My Dad was an electrician. I used to work with him on weekends when I was in HS. Once we were doing a new entrance near Putman Ave in Cambridge ( between Harvard Squ and Central Squ) of an older Black guy. I was in the basement tying in circuits. His basement was full of Civil War memorabilia. Some I saw from the 54th Mass. Sadly I did not know the history. It was an archive for sure!
When I was a little girl in the early seventies Morgan Freeman was on a children's educational show called Electric Company. He wore purple and red and had an afro. He helped me learn how to read.☮️😉👍
My history teacher in 10th grade showed us this movie, with parental permission of course. It's my favorite war movie.living in where I am I am 30 miles or so from Antietam and Gettysburg so I had a young understanding of the civil war. And the music composer went on to do the soundtrack to many movies I loved. Including the best movie ever Braveheart.
1:15 well, you may know that Gettysburg was the Bloodiest battle in American history but that was over three days. The battle being depicted is Antietam, which is the bloodiest single day.
True! Then there was also the Battle of Westport, Missouri, in present-day Kansas City in i think October of '64, which took place over basically two days and, while having fewer losses than those other two, is known as The Gettysburg of the West, partly because it was the Confederate high-water mark in the West, but mainly because it was, and remains to this day, by a wide margin the largest-ever cavalry battle in the Americas, and the most deadly confrontation west of the Mississippi. Unlike Gettysburg, it didn't decide the fate of the Union. However, uniquely amongst Civil War battles, it sealed the fact that the Confederate army west of the Mississippi would never again be able to operate north of Texas and Arkansas. 👍🏼
@@no_rubbernecking Yeah it's another very famous battle, but the reason it's not as widely known is because the confederates had almost as many casualties at Gettysburg than the combined number of Union and Confederate soldiers merely present at Westport. Nearly 29,000 confederate casualties, and another 23,000 Union casualties at Gettysburg, and around 30,000 total participants at Westport, with only around 3,000 total casualties. So it's just scale really. The battle of Westport was a more decisive victory than Gettysburg in the sense that Lee's army of Virginia was able to recover after Gettysburg and remain a serious threat for another two years, but after Westport the Confederate army of Missouri never recovered.
Watching historical stories does force you to distance the now, from then. People grow up, and get their values from society. As society evolves, attitudes change. We're all products of our societies. I'd like to think that if I were alive in this time, I'd be fighting side by side with everyone else putting their lives on the line on the side of the Republic.
Also understand that most of the white population of the American South never owned any slaves. The average Southern white soldier came from families that were little better off than slaves themselves. They were doing the bidding of the rich, as is often the case in war. The image of the Antebellum South in "Gone With The Wind" represented only a small fraction of Southern whites. In addition, a large number of Southern whites were loyal to the Union while a large number of people in the North were actually pro-Confederacy.
The primary reason the Union was hesitant to use their all black regiments on the battlefield is the concern of what would happen to them if they had to surrender. They would most likely suffer very harsh care by the Confederacy. At worst, killed on the spot. At best, sent down South to serve as slaves. Either way, all that time and money invested in training them would be lost. Another was the political fallout. Soon after the Battle of Gettysburg, Lincoln declared this a fight to abolish slavery. When he said that, upwards of 15% of Union forces deserted their posts; refusing to continue if this was a war over slavery. The deserting Union troops felt betrayed by their commanders, who assured them at the beginning of the war that this was a fight to maintain US unity alone. Hundreds of these deserters wrote letters to the editors that their local newspapers published, proclaiming they only ever enlisted to preserve the union. Never to insert themselves into some 'moral crusade' telling other people how to run their societies. Funny how that sentiment has changed over the centuries, huh? (looking at you Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan) There had also been experiments earlier in the Civil War in naval campaigns along the Mississippi River using integrated black regiments to assist in Union raids on Southern forts. They didn't turn out so well. Those groups did have to surrender, and it's unknown what their fate became in Southern hands, but it was most likely a bad one because there was never another trace of them ever again after falling into Southern hands.
That and the North was often just as racist as the South, they just didn’t want slavery. Many Black men served in WW1 and WW2 with the hope of demonstrating that they were in every way the equal of their white brothers in arms.
1:34 I just spoke with the actor playing the medic in this scene (Ethan Philips). He said that during the first take, he accidentally said "Nixon is going to free the slaves."
Glory is the best Civil War movie, if you ask me. Many Civil War movies made around the same time fell into the trap of being glorified reenactments and losing the forest for the trees. Movies like Gettysburg and Gods and Generals are good, and they were meticulous in their attention to detail and recounting of facts, but they either went halfway or completely refused to zoom in on the lives of those who fought. Ordinary guys living in extraordinary times. Guys like Trip, Sharps, Thomas, and Rawlins. Glory stands out from the crowd because it went all-in and told the story of a regiment and the men who formed it, as opposed to telling the story of a battle or a series of battles, like so many other Civil War movies tend to do. By the time you hear "Give 'em Hell, 54th!" you're so attached and fired up, you feel like grabbing a rifle and donning the blue suit and joining in on their doomed attack.
Fun fact: the guy that grabbed the flag after the Flagbearer fell was actually named Sgt. William Carney. He grabbed it before it hit the ground and was shot. He then lead the charge up the hill of fort Wagner screaming for everyone else to follow. He made it up the hill wounded, planted the flag and went to work on the confedertates. He then rallied the troops to a safe spot, before countinuing the attack deeper into the fort. The 54th was then meet with reinforcements and got pushed back out of Wagner. Sgt. William Carney realizing he left the flag and no one else grabbed it, went back up the hill to grab the flag and was wounded once again. Carney made it back to his men with the flag saying "the old flag never touched the ground boys!" For this Sgt. William Carney was awarded the medal of honor, the first African American to recieve it.
A lot of folks give Colonel Shaw a lot of grief over some of the scenes during the basic training with Thomas. Yes they were childhood friends but they are in the military now and he has the commanding officer so he has to follow the regulations as does Thomas. Colonel Shaw cannot treat Thomas any differently than any of his other soldiers. There cannot be even the appearance of favoritism.
My great great great grandfather was in the Civil War for the United States. He lived in Massachusetts as do I. With all the crazy world today I am so proud my family was on the right side of history. We are all crested equal and no one can take away our rights.
My ancestors fought on both side though the ones who fought for the South were from Tennessee and had freed their slaves long before the Civil War. They were against slavery though they fought for the South. The other side were fighting Quakers from Pennsylvania and were also related to the Hoovers.
You either want to be treated like everyone else or you don’t. No “but my background is this” or “I’ve had bad experiences with that.” Equality or not.
Actually just to correct some of the comments in chat. The flogging scene shown was a form of punishment for desertion as was death by hanging or firing squad also branding of the letter D onto the hip of the deserter. However by this time period of the war corporal punishment like death or flogging had been for the most part abolished and would not have been done or at least not a very common thing. Most of the time at this point it was prison and hard labor and dishonorable discharge. Only around 154 men in the Northern Armies were killed by execution during the duration of the war. Abraham Lincoln had determined that Americans would not put up with Americans being shot and killed in such large numbers due to high desertion rates. Many times he spent time signing pardons for many of the men sentanced to death. Plus the Army could ill afford to be killing off such large numbers of troops. Also many deserters would try to be talked back into the Army and not be punished at all due to again needing all the men they could get. So this scene as it was done would most likely have never occured during this part of the war for the most part, but as with everything there are exceptions.
Great reaction!!! Glory is my favorite war movie. The regiment went 18 months refusing their pay. A bill was passed in congress for them to receive equal pay and retroactively pay them from their date of enlistment.
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REVELATION 5:5 NIV
5 Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”
The supply officer about the shoes was a LT. not a Mj.. Col. Shaw is 4 ranks higher.
Soon...amen!
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1 Corinthians 15:54-57
“Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?”
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Amen my sister in Christ. Keep up the good work!
blacks still smell.
When asked if he wanted his son's body disinterred to be brought back home to Boston for burial, Frank Shaw replied "We would not have his body removed from where it lies surrounded by his brave and devoted soldiers. ... We can imagine no holier place than that in which he lies, among his brave and devoted followers, nor wish for him better company. - what a body-guard he has!"
my favorite part of that story is that the confederates threw him in with the regiment as a demeaning gesture, which his father then turns into that, one of the best stories of our history
They also never accepted his back pay and from what I understand it was give to the regiment
@@shaneparsg1681 shaw, and his whole regiment, were so underrated in American history. What a haunting beautiful fucking story. We must never let their memories fade.
"We fight for men and women whose poetry has not yet been written" such powerful words, and so prophetic.
"Let him grow up some more."
*Tough. Love.* The drill sergeant was getting them ready for the worst.
Absolutely!
This quote from Shaws Father was beautiful
“We would not have his body removed from where it lies surrounded by his brave and devoted soldiers… what a body-guard he has!”
In that grave there are no blacks or whites, just the bones and memories of American soldiers.
@matthiasneidenberger9471 💯. Beautiful, yet sad, way to look at it.
From an old white guy.. who happens to be a Civil War buff and amateur military historian, you impress me as a very insightful, intelligent and beautiful young lady. Your reaction truly warms my heart and gives me hope for the younger generations of all Americans. Thank you for making my day! God Bless. 😎❤️
I am a combat vet and what you have just seen is how the brotherhood developers in soldiers . Sometimes even closer than our own families . Thank you for this and God bless you
As a black man and veteran who served 24 years in the military this is one of my favorite movies. I think sometimes people watch this movie with a 21st century mindset but dont realize the 19th century mindset is on display. All these years later and the struggle still remains.
Same struggle because blacks ain't united. Slavery to freedom, freedom but segregated, segregation to equal rights(this is where Americans have up hold their responsibilities, the next part, no one else to blame but yourselves), equal rights to self segregation, self segregation to tribalism, tribalism with media culture to this day.
Things are made fun like crazy, the blacks have huge shafts, with laughter and pride, proceed to screw everything with most confident, other's girlfriends, fiances, wives, drunks, cheaters and even gold diggers, no bars held back.
Make tons of money from sport and music, proceeds to destroys their bank account as well.
And then wonder why black women in US are in current state. You spoiled them, you neglected them, and now they want more, hungrier to be spoiled and expecting to be neglected. And then you just watch an entire generation of women put their faith on the wrong matriarch, Oprah and what they learned from older generation. And then the feminist movement got them, and you are more than screwed. Because women ARE the backbone of a society and culture.
All the more reason to hold to each other and struggle together. ❤
There is debate over if or not Broderick (who often played himself) was a good actor or not and my dad would always fire back "Watch that Civil War movie." (and Ladyhawk)
what struggle? black men can write their own ticket. exactly what else do you want?
@@savinghistory642 they destroyed their society and culture.
I grew up hearing of Shaw long before the movie, because my mother went to Robert Gould Shaw Elementary School in Boston.
This was the battle where Sgt William Carney earned his Medal Of Honor.When the 54th was ordered to retreat,In that moment of danger Carney remembered the flag that represented all he held dear and was fighting to protect that day. Rather than dropping the flag and fleeing for his life, he wrapped the flag around the staff to protect it and ran down an embankment. Stumbling through a ditch, chest-deep in water, he held his flag high. Another bullet struck him in the chest, another in the right arm, then another in his right leg. Carney struggled on alone, determined not to let his flag fall to the enemy.With indomitable courage Sergeant Carney replied, “No one but a member of the 54th should carry the colors.” Despite the sounds of rifle and cannon fire that followed him, Carney struggled on. Another enemy bullet found its mark, grazing his head, but Carney wouldn’t quit.Amid the cheers of his battered comrades Sergeant Carney finally reached safety. Before collapsing among them from his many wounds his only words were, “Boys, I only did my duty. The flag never touched the ground.”Every flag bearer in the US Army will always be reminded to carry the flag just like Sgt Carney did,It's been over 40 years isnce the first time I heard those words back in Fort Jackson,SC.
Sergeant Carney earned a Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroism at Battery Wagner. There is a monument to him in Norfolk, Virginia, completed in 1920. It is one of the very few monuments to United States Colored Troops erected in the Jim Crow south.
Those same regimental colors are in the rotunda of the State House (The Hall of Flags) and right across the street is the bronze relief honoring the soldiers of the 54th shown at the end of the film
This should be remembered when people kneel or put their hand on their heart during the National Anthem.
@@soupsoup1031 For me as a young man,I will never forget in 1976 that Rick Monday of the Dodgers saved Old Glory from two protesters trying to burn it,that's the moment I said to myself that when I'm old enough I will serve under that flag and all it stands for.
That whipping scene alone gave Denzel, Washington annOscar nomination that year.
win.. not nomination, win.
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I saw that scene way before the movie! Denzel is epic!
Shaw was actually being merciful with a flogging. The punishment for desertion in the civil war was death by hanging. However, a commanding officer could flog instead but had to file a report to the War Department justifying the lessor punishment
Flogging was a common punishment then, even White soldiers would get flogged.
Flogging was outlawed in the Union army at the start of the war. So almost no one was flogged on the Union side. The Confederacy outlawed flogging in 1862. There are instances of men being flogged in the Union army after the law was passed, but those officers who ordered it were almost always court-martialled. It’s more likely that a deserter would be branded with a “D” for desertion. Usually on the cheek, hand, or hip. Sometimes the brand was done with a tattoo. Only 147 deserters were executed by the Union over the entire Civil war.
@@bobsylvester88 Flogging did take place but not like that. On the Union side if you deserted and were caught you were just put back. If you did it a 2nd time you would be put in a military prison usually for a year and be forced to do hard labor. Whipping or beating the crap out of a prisoner in the military prisons was fairly common and not punished.
@@thomasolson1154 OK military prisoners who broke rules. It’s possible. But Denzel’s character wasn’t in military prison. So…
@@bobsylvester88 These were Massachusetts state troops, and Mass. still had the flogging regulation in place.
The tall white soldier who fought Denzel and later yelled "Give em hell" was Kevin Jarre, the screenwriter. He also wrote Tombstone.
Check out the wiki for Col. Shaw. Broderick looks just like him!
Indeed. There is another tender coincidence: the real-life Shaw attended Fordham University. Over one hundred years later, Denzel Washington graduated with honours from an exceptionally well-regarded acting program --in the same-said Fordham University.
The American Civil War was well-known for ridiculously fast promotions of officers, often to the detriment of their troops. the fact that he has been given such a high rank so quickly and feels ill-prepared for it was part of Shaw's character throughout the movie. Love the scene where he gives Freeman's character the rank of Sargent Major and share's his trepidation at being "kicked upstairs."
Yes, they did a good job in casting. Matthew looks just like the real Shaw.
That was a beautiful reaction, one of the best I've seen for _Glory_ Thank for sharing your experience with us. ❤
Can you believe their monument was vandalized! Give em hell 54! ❤
That's horrible to hear. They should only ever be honored
@@MrLovegrove absolutely!!
No!
Yeah sad to say it was BLM protesters that vandalized it. And sadly, it also shows how ignorant some of them were.
Your tears and reaction broke my heart. This was a great movie. Thanks for watching with us.
One of my favourite films. When I was a child this story taught me something about where honour and respect start from.
Denzel's performance was so captivating that he became my favorite actor when this movie came out.
A male movie star should had charisma, and Denzel has tons of it.
He also seems to be a good guy in his real life.
Yeah. A few of his fellow actors in the Academy kinda agreed.
I understand that flogging/ whipping was a standard punishment practice, regardless of race. In my reaction, I also iterated what whipping meant for black people during this time. For slaves, this was not a standard punishment practice coming from the military. For even the smallest infractions, slaves faced brutal whippings at the hands of their masters. For black individuals who were beaten by their masters, "whipping" has a distinct significance. This is the point I was trying to articulate. When the col. whips Trip it can evoke a sense of bondage and submission to another person.
I appreciate the respectful discord within the comments section 😊
I think that the scene was the first time Robert realized that the action had totally different meanings because of the historical context. For a white soldier, it is painful and humiliating, but doesn't have the added association with the slavery. For Robert, he was originally thinking of it as "everyone gets the same treatment," while in the end, he realized that it absolutely wasn't the same treatment. ETA: Thank goodness, the entire practice of whipping in the military became moot as the practice was prohibited for everyone.
I found your observations pretty valid and I think the movie itself indicates there's a context that makes this rather awkward.
Soldiering is hard. That is why few are fit for it.
Agreed. It’s the meaning behind Forbes pleading with Shaw by his emphasizing “not to THEM.”
Whipping a former slave, in front of former slaves, sends a very different message than the flogging would have to a northern white soldier. It’s a different kind of cruelty, with a net-negative effect. The commenters who say that it was a mercy are not only betraying their own callousness, but missing the point that the movie is very clearly trying to make.
If they’re going to lean that hard into historical accuracy, and Trip get a death sentence, then he’d just be thrown into a cell, and that’s probably the last we would’ve seen of him for the movie. They wouldn’t have on-the-spot put him in front of a wall during basic training. There’s a not so insignificant chance that Lincoln would have pardoned him, as he was well known to do for deserters who awaited execution.
There’s plenty about this movie that’s not historically accurate, as is the case with EVERY historical film. It’s important to pay attention to the story being told.
Just so you know that scene would never happen at that time of the war. Both the Union and Confederates had outlawed flogging in the army. The standard punishment was usually public humiliation for desertion of rank or if done multiple times death. However the vast majority, especially in the Union, were appealed. Lincoln was known to pardon many soldiers personally. Though punishment at times in the Confederate States varied they basically did the same because some Confederate soldiers who grew up in rural areas would dessert and go back home to help out then return back to the army. Once again by the time of the 54th flogging was banned. it was put in the movie for most likely dramatic reasons.
It was a joy watching your reaction to this great movie. I could feel both your pain and pride for these heroic men. I was never taught the story of Robert Shaw and the 54th as it was never mentioned in my high school history book. I first learned of the 54th watching Glory. It's a shame, as in my eyes, these are the heroes that America should be proud of. Their story must be told and passed on from generation to generation.
I absolutely love this movie. It's so moving. The part where he greets the soldiers and then they march to the beach at the end fills me with so many emotions.
My Civil War reenacting club took part along with several others doing the combat scenes and training the actors and many extras for this film. It was an experience I can tell you. Most of the extras were right off the street and didn't have a clue about the civil war or Black Soldiers in it. It came out well though. We also did the combat scenes for Gettysburg, Gods and Generals, Dances with Wolves and numerous History Channels episodes.
T. Boyte,
Capt. Norfolk Light Artillery, CSA
National Civil War Assn.
I'm so glad to see so many reactors watch this wonderful and excellent film from 35 years ago. Give them hell, 54th!
Between this film, Blood Diamond, Courage Under Fire and The Last Samurai, director Edward Zwick has made some seriously good under the radar movies.
Did not know it was same director. Some of them are the most emotionally engaging films I've ever seen. I haven't see Courage.
@@phila3884 It's fantastic. Denzel, Matt Damon, Lou Diamond Philips and Meg Ryan. Great story that keeps you guessing.
This time was the beginning of one of the realization of one of the founding principles of our country ..that all men are created equal endowed by GOD ALMIGHTY with rights… I’m still praying everyday that the completion will happen in my lifetime.. one of my heroes dr. Martin Luther King Jr had a dream people judge by content of character not by skin color… it will happen when both black and white except the truth… that we are ALL GODS CHILDREN ❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I remember seeing this on the big screen when it first came out. Amazing. It still holds up extremely well - even period pieces tend to reflect the era they were produced. Very enjoyable reaction!
I just discovered your channel just now, and I am giving you a subscribe. I am saying good evening to you from my home of NYC. Also I still have the original VHS tape of Glory from my childhood.
"Him riding in on a high horse." That is a damn good interruption. I never even thought of that.
The fact that Robert addressed him as "Mr. Douglas." 🥲
mr douglas married the white daughter of abolitionists who disowned her immediately. so much for the strength of their convictions. some things never change. as soon as he can every black man gets a white woman. look at the nba wives, oj, kjp
Denzel won his first Oscar for this!
Great actor.
I see that this movie touched you emotionally, I regret to inform you that the monument to those men was vandalized by BLM and ANTIFA "activists" because they thought it was offensive that the figure of Colonel Shaw was on horseback while his men were walking, they did not care that the officers always went on horseback in all companies regardless of their color.
that's right johnny REB..them there black folks be uppity to the authority.....spiteful little curb ,arent you...
Nah, they didn't care about that. They just like to destroy things.
@@docsavage8640 good point
Only white officers, so it has to do with color after all!
@@VictorGiler-or1mr First of all, white soldiers also walked when officers rode horses, and secondly, the US was the third country to try to abolish slavery after the UK and France. We are talking about the 19th century, in the previous ten thousand years of human history slavery was seen as normal and there was no precedent for what to do in such a situation, it was improvised as they went along. Judging the actions of that time with the logic of today makes no sense.
But if it makes you feel better you should know how white slaves who were captured by Muslims from the Turkish and Ottoman empires as well as the countries of North Africa were forced to walk while their masters rode horses.
Because in case you don't know, between the 9th and 14th centuries, the countries mentioned above made raids on European countries to capture the inhabitants of coastal villages and sell them as slaves, it is estimated that the number of white slaves captured in those centuries was between 6 to 8 million, many of them from Eastern Europe, from the Slav region, considering that the majority of the white slaves captured came from that region, that was what gave rise to the word slave.
Unfortunately flogging was the standard punishment for desertion at the time. Shaw was simply doing what was done at the time to keep order within the regiment.
WRONG Flogging was outlawed in the union army. It became illegal on august 5th 1861. Stop spreading bullshit.
This is one of my favorite Glory reactions. 😄
I saw this movie in school and it was one of the first movies to really impact me for longer than it’s ending credits. Really an excellent film.
In real life Colonel Shaw never had a soldier flogged. If he did, Shaw would have been in huge trouble since flogging was outlawed in 1861.
Pretty sure that's only 1/2 factually correct. Because Shaw was put in charge of colored troops he was probably given the implicit or even explicit right to "preserve order and maintain discipline any way he saw fit." That definitely happened among military commanders during the American Civil War with their troops. Probably, the vast majority of incidents like this were simply never reported. Shaw probably could have shot any one of those colored troops on the spot for any number of deemed "acts of disobedience" and gotten away with it. So much of warfare in the past is unrecorded history.
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Speculation is all we're left with.
Thank you for sharing this very heartfelt and emotional reaction with us.
Your simple "we're living in the benefits of what they fought for" puts to shame a great deal of recent academic thought. Stay strong in the truth!
The 54th, officers and men, fought for 18 months without pay to protest the pay inequity. Congress rectified this on September 28, 1864.
Ok, so i did literally LOL when you said "As you wish".
You damn right, you had to say it. I'm with you on that one :)
Oh and the military structure is that for a very good reason. It seems heartless, but war is heartless.
The first rule of war...young men (and women) die.
The second rule is that doctors cannot change rule number one.
Also....biscuits and gravy sound damn good. :)
Brilliant film. Emotionally captivating.
Ms CaliforniaBlend (if that’s what I may call you) never be afraid to let the tears flow. The emotions are what we are here for regardless of what emotion it may be. Yell when you’re angry and also laugh as loud as you like. It all makes for a great reaction. Also I want to congratulate you on 40K followers. That number will only grow. Maybe closing in on 50K by the end of the year.
The soundtrack to this movie is one of my favorites of all time - the Harlam Boys Choir singing O'Fortuna during the storing of Fort Wagner gave me chills when I saw this movie in the theatre as a kid.
Interesting historical fact - Frederick Douglass's sons fought with the 54th.
Think about this, how would the other enlisted men feel about Thomas and treat him if he had special privileges from Col. Shaw? Col. Shaw needed to be fair and impartial
Your reaction and thoughts about Glory was very touching. It's been a rough road into building a nation based on "all men are created equal." But we are all Americans in the same boat now. I had an ancestor killed in this same battle at Fort Wagner, July 18th, 1863. First Sergeant Aaron McNaughton, 62nd Ohio Volunteer Infantry Regiment. When I first saw this movie in the theater in 1989, at the end, the theater was so quiet and everyone so deep in thought, you could hear a pin drop.
This is probably my all time favorite film. Thanks for reacting to it!
The Mass. 54th spent time in my hometown of Jacksonville, Florida. The ill-fated naked frontal assault of Fort Wagner really happened. Several scenes were filmed on the Georgia coastal islands. One of my friends was a "rebel" extra in Fort Wagner. Blooper alert! When one of the "liberated slaves" raises his hand to cheer on the troops, you can see that he is wearing a DIGITAL WRISTWATCH.
I knew the movie would get you like that at the end, it gets me every time.
Thanks G.! You are very knowledgeable about this period of American history!
You complained no one told you the film would be so good. I would not have even known how to convey the greatness of this film to you without overly spoiling it.
I will tell you that the film Gettysburg (1993), produced by Ted Turner, is about equally as good, though told mostly from a White perspective. To me, these two films go hand in hand and no Civil War study is complete without both of them.
The majority feeling on RUclips seems to slightly favor Gettysburg for its extreme dedication to accuracy, realism, scale, and preserving memory of the politics and economics of the war. However, for treatment of the Northern Black experience, Glory is without peer and IMO probably shall always be. 💙
Flogging was a common punishment back then. Denzel’s character is lucky though because the alternative would’ve been being shot. The fact he was a slave is just a coincidence. The army didn’t care if you were white or black, slave or free, or rich or poor. If you committed a crime, you’d be punished.
WWII the last US Shot for desertion PVT. SLOVIK
Correction. Flogging was abolished in the US Army on 5 August 1861. This would be illegal.
Not really flogging was stopped before the war so it likely never happened considering shaw was a by the book officer
Unfortunately the 54th monument was vandalized during the summer of 2020
Yeah, by blm and antifa. Guess their lives didn't matter that much.
I've seen this movie many times, and cry every time.
Great story, wonderful characters. Lovely reaction.
God bless you for doing this
So many stars in one movie
Fun Fact: Drill Sergeants treat EVERYONE like that
She’s So Beautiful ❤❤❤❤
Great reaction! There are a lot of misconceptions about the Civil War, the first being that Lincoln, and the North in general, didn't go to war to emancipate the slaves. At the time the federal government were passing legislation to prevent the newly established states in the west from being able to adopt slavery, and it were these restrictions on slavery that lead the Southern states to secede and the north went to war - not necessarily to free the slaves - but instead the ultimately invaded to prevent the southern states from seceding. As a historian it's quite frustrating the way most modern media and even how it's taught in school, the way they portray Lincoln in this simplistic and largely historically inaccurate pristine image. And the same goes for the north's attitudes toward black people at the time. When in fact abolitionists were a very small minority in the country at the time and Lincoln was never one of them, and was eventually forced to make the emancipation proclamation years into the war. You have to remember that just because northerners and Lincoln himself were anti-slavery in principle, they thought abolishing it was too extreme. At the end of the day, they may have been anti-slavery, but they were still extremely racist and most certainly didn't see blacks as being equal. This film did a great job accurately depicting how most northern whites treated black people and what they thought of them.
Great film and great reaction. Your sincere, perceptive, and heartfelt reactions are the best. Your observations make films even better. Thank you.
This movie changed my 15 year old life when I first saw this. I'm an atheist but I still always get into their spiritual rally the night before the big battle. I remember sitting in the theater and at the end when the Confederates raised their flag, the audience gasped in disappoinment. We got so invested into these characters that the sadness I felt when they all died was gut wrenching.
One of the best movies ever made with one of the best acting performances ever. Just to say a movie about the Civil War won 3 Oscars (back when they mattered) is an achievement on its own. After Braveheart this is my go to movie when it comes to history movies.
This film has legs. It's one of the best ever to come out of Hollywood.
While the story is anchored in a couple of key historical events, the details are all fiction.
Even so, historians love this movie for accurately depicting the period - the North isn’t whitewashed as “the good guys.”
Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
Isaiah 6:8
Oh no, she watching Glory, no wonder she crying
7:30 "not the water works" girl you came to the wrong movie lol
Great reaction, even better smile! Subbed
There were two authorized punishments for desertion: execution by firing squad and flogging. Shaw was actually as lenient as he could be.
One big Hollywood error in such films is the uniforms using wrong colors. The 54th was an Infantry unit so all ranks, trim and sashes would be blue and those red sash belts should only be worn by artillery. The other big mistake Hollywood loves to make in such films is over use of Calvary ranks with a yellow/gold base for officers when they would only belong on Calvary units. The base Navy was the standard color for Union uniforms (Though early on in the war that was less true, Irish state units might choose green) The standard for the south was Cadet Grey but butternut was more common (Again early on some even wore blue causing friendly fire cases) TNT did a number of fair civil war films including Gettysburg, Ironclads, Gods and Generals but some are quite long. Though set a bit later the best film of the type ever IMHO was TNT's Rough Riders set around Teddy Roosevelt's unit in Cuba. Would advise on Rough Riders to also listen to the commentary track as you will be amazed with what all came together for that film. Even having 2 of only 6 of a gun built for that war and firing them.
This movie did James Montgomery dirty.
His raid on Combahee Ferry freed 800 slaves, and he had been fighting pro-slavery forces in Kansas and Missouri before the civil war even started.
You should watch if you haven't a movie called : Mississippi Burning
The white union soldier that was an ass, and then said "Give them Hell , 54" is part of the crew .
He's a major writer on the movie and wanted to show his feelings towards the end of the movie on how he felt.
Beautiful and animated reaction! I loved it!
Subscribed ❤
I love this film, but it's a emotional breaker, and I don't wish to rewatch it on a Friday night. If anyone familiar that had earned my trust could tempt me, I think some Cali-blend would be very close to the top. But I'm in a different frame of mind tonight. I think I'll save this one for this coming Sunday afternoon. I have to mow the lawn, so that will be a great wat to set the mood, haha. Respect for choosing this title. ❤
The ten dollars vs 13 dollars was because they weren't expected to fight.
While there were some differences between the actual history and the movie--this movie did an excellent job of showing the struggles of black soldiers in the Civil War. The 54th assault on Ft. Wagner is every bit as significant as the Battle of Bunker Hill. Look into the actual history of these extraordinary men--it's worth knowing
One of my hobbies is painting miniatures--doing the 54th with a complete diorama is one of my ambitions.
Saw the movie in1989 in a Baltimore theater with my future wife. Driving by the theater a couple days later I asked her if we could go see it again. So, we saw it twice.
Great reaction and analysis. 5 stars. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ one of my all time favorite movies. Denzel, Mathew Broderick and Morgan Freeman gave outstanding performances.
Your best reaction. Thank you for your perspective. You are a wonderful person and an outstanding reactor! 🎞📽🤍🖤
Can you imagine being a slave and seeing people who had run away coming back as part of the northern army? It would give you hope where you never had it before. I can’t even imagine.
75% of the 54th Massachusetts were Free men. They came from all over, wealthy Americans like Douglas's 2 sons, from Canada, the West Indies, the American frontier, farms....from everywhere. Only 250 of the 1000 that made up the 54th were ex-slaves.
This was a great reaction ✌🏽💪🏽💯👍 I love this movie my school actually played this movie in class during history
great reaction tremendous film
The image underlying the closing credits is a bas-relief sculpture on Boston Common, across from and facing the Massachusetts State House; of the 54th on the march. The colors of the 54th, the flags they carried in battle, are on display in the Rotunda of the State House. Quite a good movie. Also as 'accurate' as Hollywood ever gets with history.
People try to apply a 2024 mindset about race to an 1860s mindset about race.
In the 1860s Black people were considered 2/3 of a human, even in the Union/Northern states.
Even after the Civil War Black people were counted as 2/3 human in the US Census.
That did not change for a number of years after the Civil War.
The prevalent mindset throughout the continent was Black people were inferior to White people and less than human.
Black people were not the only people who were prejudiced against.
Almost all races other than White people were prejudiced against including Irish people despite Irish being White.
In some ways Irish were hated more because it was not immediately apparent they were Irish until they spoke or gave their name.
I remember screening this movie just before it came out in the cinema. Great film and great reaction. ❤️
I grew up in Cambridge Mass. My Dad was an electrician. I used to work with him on weekends when I was in HS. Once we were doing a new entrance near Putman Ave in Cambridge ( between Harvard Squ and Central Squ) of an older Black guy. I was in the basement tying in circuits. His basement was full of Civil War memorabilia. Some I saw from the 54th Mass. Sadly I did not know the history. It was an archive for sure!
I remember watching this movie in middle school back in the day and trust me, your reactions are the same as mine were 💯... Definitely a classic!!
When I was a little girl in the early seventies Morgan Freeman was on a children's educational show called Electric Company. He wore purple and red and had an afro. He helped me learn how to read.☮️😉👍
He's not Thomas anymore. He's a Soldier now! This is the reality of that life.
My history teacher in 10th grade showed us this movie, with parental permission of course. It's my favorite war movie.living in where I am I am 30 miles or so from Antietam and Gettysburg so I had a young understanding of the civil war. And the music composer went on to do the soundtrack to many movies I loved. Including the best movie ever Braveheart.
1:15 well, you may know that Gettysburg was the Bloodiest battle in American history but that was over three days. The battle being depicted is Antietam, which is the bloodiest single day.
True! Then there was also the Battle of Westport, Missouri, in present-day Kansas City in i think October of '64, which took place over basically two days and, while having fewer losses than those other two, is known as The Gettysburg of the West, partly because it was the Confederate high-water mark in the West, but mainly because it was, and remains to this day, by a wide margin the largest-ever cavalry battle in the Americas, and the most deadly confrontation west of the Mississippi.
Unlike Gettysburg, it didn't decide the fate of the Union. However, uniquely amongst Civil War battles, it sealed the fact that the Confederate army west of the Mississippi would never again be able to operate north of Texas and Arkansas. 👍🏼
@@no_rubbernecking Yeah it's another very famous battle, but the reason it's not as widely known is because the confederates had almost as many casualties at Gettysburg than the combined number of Union and Confederate soldiers merely present at Westport.
Nearly 29,000 confederate casualties, and another 23,000 Union casualties at Gettysburg, and around 30,000 total participants at Westport, with only around 3,000 total casualties. So it's just scale really.
The battle of Westport was a more decisive victory than Gettysburg in the sense that Lee's army of Virginia was able to recover after Gettysburg and remain a serious threat for another two years, but after Westport the Confederate army of Missouri never recovered.
@@adamwee382 That's right!
Watching historical stories does force you to distance the now, from then. People grow up, and get their values from society. As society evolves, attitudes change. We're all products of our societies. I'd like to think that if I were alive in this time, I'd be fighting side by side with everyone else putting their lives on the line on the side of the Republic.
Also understand that most of the white population of the American South never owned any slaves. The average Southern white soldier came from families that were little better off than slaves themselves. They were doing the bidding of the rich, as is often the case in war. The image of the Antebellum South in "Gone With The Wind" represented only a small fraction of Southern whites. In addition, a large number of Southern whites were loyal to the Union while a large number of people in the North were actually pro-Confederacy.
The primary reason the Union was hesitant to use their all black regiments on the battlefield is the concern of what would happen to them if they had to surrender. They would most likely suffer very harsh care by the Confederacy. At worst, killed on the spot. At best, sent down South to serve as slaves. Either way, all that time and money invested in training them would be lost.
Another was the political fallout. Soon after the Battle of Gettysburg, Lincoln declared this a fight to abolish slavery. When he said that, upwards of 15% of Union forces deserted their posts; refusing to continue if this was a war over slavery. The deserting Union troops felt betrayed by their commanders, who assured them at the beginning of the war that this was a fight to maintain US unity alone. Hundreds of these deserters wrote letters to the editors that their local newspapers published, proclaiming they only ever enlisted to preserve the union. Never to insert themselves into some 'moral crusade' telling other people how to run their societies.
Funny how that sentiment has changed over the centuries, huh? (looking at you Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan)
There had also been experiments earlier in the Civil War in naval campaigns along the Mississippi River using integrated black regiments to assist in Union raids on Southern forts. They didn't turn out so well. Those groups did have to surrender, and it's unknown what their fate became in Southern hands, but it was most likely a bad one because there was never another trace of them ever again after falling into Southern hands.
Main reason, they didn't want black people killing white people.
That and the North was often just as racist as the South, they just didn’t want slavery.
Many Black men served in WW1 and WW2 with the hope of demonstrating that they were in every way the equal of their white brothers in arms.
1:34 I just spoke with the actor playing the medic in this scene (Ethan Philips). He said that during the first take, he accidentally said "Nixon is going to free the slaves."
Glory is the best Civil War movie, if you ask me. Many Civil War movies made around the same time fell into the trap of being glorified reenactments and losing the forest for the trees. Movies like Gettysburg and Gods and Generals are good, and they were meticulous in their attention to detail and recounting of facts, but they either went halfway or completely refused to zoom in on the lives of those who fought. Ordinary guys living in extraordinary times. Guys like Trip, Sharps, Thomas, and Rawlins. Glory stands out from the crowd because it went all-in and told the story of a regiment and the men who formed it, as opposed to telling the story of a battle or a series of battles, like so many other Civil War movies tend to do. By the time you hear "Give 'em Hell, 54th!" you're so attached and fired up, you feel like grabbing a rifle and donning the blue suit and joining in on their doomed attack.
Fun fact: the guy that grabbed the flag after the Flagbearer fell was actually named Sgt. William Carney. He grabbed it before it hit the ground and was shot. He then lead the charge up the hill of fort Wagner screaming for everyone else to follow. He made it up the hill wounded, planted the flag and went to work on the confedertates. He then rallied the troops to a safe spot, before countinuing the attack deeper into the fort. The 54th was then meet with reinforcements and got pushed back out of Wagner. Sgt. William Carney realizing he left the flag and no one else grabbed it, went back up the hill to grab the flag and was wounded once again. Carney made it back to his men with the flag saying "the old flag never touched the ground boys!" For this Sgt. William Carney was awarded the medal of honor, the first African American to recieve it.
A lot of folks give Colonel Shaw a lot of grief over some of the scenes during the basic training with Thomas. Yes they were childhood friends but they are in the military now and he has the commanding officer so he has to follow the regulations as does Thomas. Colonel Shaw cannot treat Thomas any differently than any of his other soldiers. There cannot be even the appearance of favoritism.
My great great great grandfather was in the Civil War for the United States. He lived in Massachusetts as do I. With all the crazy world today I am so proud my family was on the right side of history. We are all crested equal and no one can take away our rights.
My ancestors fought on both side though the ones who fought for the South were from Tennessee and had freed their slaves long before the Civil War. They were against slavery though they fought for the South. The other side were fighting Quakers from Pennsylvania and were also related to the Hoovers.
@@arakuss1 It was illegal to free slaves in the south but cool story bro.
You either want to be treated like everyone else or you don’t. No “but my background is this” or “I’ve had bad experiences with that.” Equality or not.
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Best scene is watching Denzel pick up the flag after ssying he would never carry it. 😢
Actually just to correct some of the comments in chat.
The flogging scene shown was a form of punishment for desertion as was death by hanging or firing squad also branding of the letter D onto the hip of the deserter. However by this time period of the war corporal punishment like death or flogging had been for the most part abolished and would not have been done or at least not a very common thing. Most of the time at this point it was prison and hard labor and dishonorable discharge. Only around 154 men in the Northern Armies were killed by execution during the duration of the war.
Abraham Lincoln had determined that Americans would not put up with Americans being shot and killed in such large numbers due to high desertion rates. Many times he spent time signing pardons for many of the men sentanced to death. Plus the Army could ill afford to be killing off such large numbers of troops. Also many deserters would try to be talked back into the Army and not be punished at all due to again needing all the men they could get.
So this scene as it was done would most likely have never occured during this part of the war for the most part, but as with everything there are exceptions.
Great reaction!!! Glory is my favorite war movie. The regiment went 18 months refusing their pay. A bill was passed in congress for them to receive equal pay and retroactively pay them from their date of enlistment.