my personal experience as a raptor main, i think we've become less common because of just how squishy we are, essentially being killed in 4-5 bites, while it takes us significantly longer to take down a bigger dino, even with a pack. that along with how gimmicky pounce can be. my biggest issue is releasing from pounce and i get thrown in a random direction that ends up getting me killed, its quite frustrating
Yeah, like I really feel like pounce could be incredibly cool. And it is, when it works. But now with bucking being RNG based, it's almost not even worth the stamina to try. Better to just fight with bites and risk dying to latency hits(or just bad timing, I'm good at dying to my bad timing)
@@dinomettatiming is the annoying part imo lol I hope they fix latency and make the hitboxes less nitpicky to hit sometime down the road. You have to click early at the right time to have some creatures’ bite hitboxes hit. Like omni and cerato. They only hit at like the last nanosecond of the animation lol. That used to not be the case from what I’ve seen in older update 4 videos.
I think a big part is the squishiness paired with the rubberbanding ghost hits. Died so often to absolute ridiculous hits (5m away still hits me somehow) that I stopped playing omni altogether.
@@Kampfcookie100 this. It’s not just omni either. Everything hitbox wise is just wack right now. Hopefully we get to a point soon where they can fix the latency. Also tail tip hits should do a lot less damage to be honest. A stego with its tail attack hitting your tail tip as a cera takes away a quarter if not more of your health (you’re on yellow hp, I can confirm even when realistically being hit on the tail with no bleed, if I’m full hp I’m brought to yellow hp).
@@xxMrbojanqlezxx same lol luckily I don’t usually audibly make any noise though… but I do flinch suprisingly easy even during a fight that I’ve been in for a couple minutes already sometimes 🤣
@@dtbrex08 Usually i go "OH SH!T" or "YOU MF" and start laughing at how bad the other dino makes me flinch the mouse. Trex on legacy sometimes made me do that especially since I played allo most of the time.
@@nerdoutreachprogram5358 I remember back when I played carno in update 4, I never was that good, but for as long as I played carno on spiro up until update 6, I was always nervous even as a full adult when I saw just 2-3 raptors because I knew their bleed was scary and that my inexperience would only aid them in killing me 🤣 plus inexperience = panic aswell so it was a rough but fun time
Not really. In real life the raptors were small. The only one's the size of omni were Utah raptor and maybe deinonychus and there's little evidence either were pack hunters.
27:10 This is exactly why I don't want to even touch herbivores as a carnivore anymore. You two have been fighting this Teno for over an hour, an adult Cerato shows up and does damage but STILL DIES. I even said out loud "That's F**king ridiculous!". I definitely want herbies to have a good fight in them but the fact they can consistently 1vEveryDamnCarnivoreonthemap makes it just feel bad. I think they need a health nerf or a damage nerf. It makes no sense that they can kill basically anything with 6 shots max while being able to take an hours worth of damage. Rant over. Great video, as always.
Here is the biggest issue: Bucking can throw you off in 1 second ( RNG) Dismount(Spacebar) works after 2 seconds. Meaning a chance exists for you to simply fall off before u can do LMB or RMB pounce or even jump of directly. (And die because of it, think landing middle of a stego hitbox and its swinging you) This in turns brings a fear with it due to how bucking is set up that you dont wanna pounce long, meaning: you don't actually deal any bleed damage, we did some testing and 1 omni could not even take 10% from a fg Stego with its full stamina bar, and we all know you won't even get to pounce it for 3 seconds, due to how weight affects how fast you get bucked. So all in all, a deadly cocktail to waste 1 hour and 20 min in Survival and feeling you have been done dirty. Can you still play and succeed? sure i was able to kill stuff bites only. and ofcourse the pin mechanic is very powerful.
Yup. I think RNG based pounce was a mistake. At least before, we could decide whether a pounce was worth risking because we had x amount of stamina. Now it's deciding whether we simply want to die instantly because we can't dismount before being bucked off and clobbered. If they're going to force dismount, raptors should be forced into the dismount animation and thrown further away as long as they still have stamina to technically do so.
Bucking throwing you off in one second is insane, I know pounce can be overpowered and has been overpowered before but this is way too excessive. I think it can be fixed pretty easily though, just increase the minimum amount of time you have by a second or two (instead of 1 second give raptors at least 3 seconds to dismount) before getting bucked off and make dismount instant so you have enough time to see your target bucking and dismount, maybe be able to pick the direction you want to jump off to if you are fast enough. Dying just because the game happened to decide you do is never fair.
@@Mxlch999 I used to think the same back in update 4. Make sure they’ve already pounced you maybe, then press and hold e? If you see your creature do a little struggle animation it should be working. Hope that helps.
i think omnis dual pounce was made literally to stop people like this who spam bite on omni, im not saying its wrong but bleeding people out was intended for pouncing.
I genuinely have a soft spot in my heart for raptor players, I never had the patience nor skill to learn how to play them. I'm a herbi main and I love the genuine fear a raptor pack can put in us, skilled players or not. That teno made me sad though, if you're so desperate for a fight then at least be a good sport. Using terrain is for when you don't want a fight but one came to you, at least in my opinion.
The most lethal dino is the Bugssauro. The stress from dying to bugs is all the fun you money will buy. Get ready do be tricked by the graphs. Remember: 10 years under development!
keep in mind this is an early beta version of the game so dont judge the team too hard they are doing the best they can and think about it a beta version of the game is better then the actual wich is pretty suprising i think they did a really good job with evrima even tho there is some bugs
@@Hamstersaurusrex oh of course. I have nothing against the devs at all. I have a lot of respect for what they're doing. It does still suck to deal with the bugs though
@@Hamstersaurusrex I judge the devs-- and by this I mean head developer (Dondi) and others for creating just the worst possible environment on their Discord and other unsavory deeds. They're not good people to be around. And I had been around The Isle since day one, yet I can't even be in the Discord server because I was instantly banned for... saying something as silly as, "human thicc" because they sent a NUDE human model in development channel. But I've seen people be incredibly uncivil to each other and toxicity every single day within the general chat. With that being said, The Isle out of the trio is the most tolerable game to me. Just sucks it has to be ran by manchildren.
I tell my friends i play a dinosaur game and they immediately want to play raptor. So id say through pop culture, predominantly jurassic park movies, is why most people want to play raptor.
I love playing as a raptor but to really do it well you need a group of people who also understand the strategy of playing a raptor. That is sooooo hard to find! Just yesterday I was in a group of 6. Spent the time to get to full grown, helped our little ones get perfect diets, all well grown. We found a Cera. All alone. Did we take turns giving it some bleed and then just hounding it until it bled out? No. We watched as one face tanked it over and over while another of us jumped around to "distract it." Instantly taking two of our pack out of the equation. Waited for them to heal and rest to go again, they repeated their actions. The commotion attracted two Dilos. 6 omnis vs 2 dilos after the Cera ran away? Should be a win. Nope. One of ours pounced another of our pack and never let go, just killed them, while getting munched by a dilo themselves. A 3rd omni just straight up left and ran away, while the 4th also pounced our other friend and killed them while also dying to a dilo. If this is what's available as teammates, I'll just stick to my life as a salt water drinking bird that likes to yell at deinos. 😅
This. I ran into a pack myself the other day. 9 of us in total. Could have taken on the world if they were coordinated. They chose.... A herd of 4 tenos and 3-5 stegos. I sat up on a mountain side and watched them run around in circles until a cerato showed up and started mixpacking... With the tenos. Once the herd left, I tried to help with the cerato, but a second showed up and by then half the pack was already injured or dead. I got puked on pounce, even though I latched perfectly(gotta love latency) and that was me deciding I wouldn't touch another cerato unless it was single-omni pinnable
I'm honestly giggling, this reminds me of a pack of about sixteen raptors in legacy telling my adult trike, with its butt against a wall, that I should be scared of them and give up my food and water hole because, I quote, "Herbis eat grass and we eat ass so you should be scared of us and run away". They went on about how bad trike was and smack talked for about twenty minutes whilst I just sat there staring at them and shrugging out a nope. Not moving. Sixteen reports for kosing/hacking later (and one very funny video of raptors YEETING themselves repeatedly at the head of an adult trike) the admin on call for that server determined that they died from 'mass stupidity' so I didn't have to worry about a ban and could go back to lounging in the sun at my pond. My rex main friend found it hilarious because I'm terrible at pvp. Absolutely awful. So a pack that size losing to me kept him cackling for weeks - especially since they talked so big beforehand.
We had an infamous Teno main in an old realism server I would play in who was famous for engaging in *extremely* long Raptor battles, sometimes involving up to 8 raptors. We also had some dedicated packs that'd always spawn in together, so these were no PUG raptors either. Wouldn't be shocked if it was him
Herbi players using the environment: "OMG SKILL ISSUE THEY ARE JUST SCARED WAH WAH WAH" Carni players using the environment: "Oh no it's just using the environment to our advantage and requires a lot of tactful planning and skill to do." I see a pattern here. lol
My only issue is this guy wanted the fight. Aggressively wanted it to the point of chasing me to almost 0 stamina the first time I tried to back out. And then when I crossed to leave after an hour of fighting with no progress, he came chasing after me again. It's one thing to use the environment in a fight where you've been attacked and are trying to survive in hopes of either killing them or them deciding the fight isn't worth it. It's another when you won't let the predators walk away without being aggressively chased. Could we have simply kept running? Absolutely. But if you are desperate for some action, camping for the vast majority of the fight only makes it miserable for everyone
@@dinometta ya right out wanting a fight even agressivly so. must have been on a high ass horse atm. then tail was ducked the other raptors showed up. so far my best fun was with critter were i can kind of ignore people existing. as thoes areas dont seam to suffer a lot compared to the odd mixbag of pvp side of things.
Never played this game but in PvP in general, there's a pretty big difference in using terrain and los strategically, and camping one spot because you're an asshole and bad sport.
I got recommended this after getting pounced by my own pack while i'm latched to a bigger dino 3 times in less than 1 hour. Outside of the stupidity of other raptor players my main issue is getting vomit sickness in 1 click from a Cerato and getting thrown off while latched in 1 millisecond while the other player holds E and gives them a free hit. For those reasons, i'm out.
I feel you here. There's a reason I very seldom play in a pack with random raptors. I'd much rather go duo with Acro or in a small coordinated pack with other skilled raptors in VC. Much less likely to have friendly fire pounces. Either way, being able to move slots and such doesn't really matter when you get bucked off in 1 second before you can even react to hit dismount
I haven't seen the video yet but I'm pretty sure is bc ceras are extremely OP now, Herbie's makes extremely big packs and pounce is the worst thing in the world rn cuz is bug asf, that's what I feel, I'm not particularly a raptor player but I like it and now kill a single cera with a pack of raptors is actually quite a tough task, and for a half a ton of dinos making pack doesn't make much sense to me the fact that cost so much to hunt decent preys for a pack, cuz a herrara surely wouldn't fill a pack of raptors and 2 ceras can beat a pack of 10 raptors no joke
Feel like either the raptors bleed or health get slight buff and/or Tano get a debuff... Or possibly have it to where if say 2-3 or more raptors pounce on a tano it should pin it down at least. And to add on so that mud can be an advantage for carnivs as well be it that any creature pounced in mud will take a slight stun duration and if pinned then the prey will take slightly longer to get up because well its mud. That way mud can ve a double edge sword for both sides.
Is saying the Omnis’ are the equivalent of a mix of a honey badger, rabbies infested chihuahuas, and that one crack head down my street? Great video as always Mettaton.
I remember the isle evrima 2021... just omnis vs carnos 24/7... making super packs just ot fight to death like a medieval battle, corpses everywhere, only one side won or retreated with 5 survivors from a 15-20 sized packs.. yes ive been to dinosaur vietnam.😅
@@dinometta that's how I honestly picture the isle, survival, big hunts, battles... not hackers and unbalanced cerato pimp making you vomit your stego with a one bite lmao.
@ElComposta Nah, they just make Herb tanky to encourage players to play them. However, the developers mess up by making adult Herb too powerful for most standard Carno group. I had one game where 8 of us Omis repeatedly pounced on an adult Stego over 30 minutes. The stego survived long enough to be rescue by two other adult stagos. Instead, we were force to hunt other carnos because we could actually kill them easier.
@@Normacly stego could have good diet with 15% bleed resistant mutation aswell as possibly bad Omni players, and yeah of course a carno pair will be easier to kill than a stego depending on what update this happened
I used to play omni a lot. Not so much anymore. It’s mostly due to a mixture of latency, weird hitboxes and the bucking being able to knock you off of a pounce too quickly. If I am like 10 meters to the side of a dibble, I should not be getting hit by attacks that aren’t even facing me
Really glad the YT algo threw your channel on my recommended, loving your play and video style! Hoping to begin doing very similar videos like yours, minus a lot of skill... LOL - Hope to run into you one day in the plains!
@@mustard9808 Yeah, unfortunately that's something that happens often when playing raptor alone. Their damage output just isn't high enough to finish a fight if it drags on too long
Bucking is wack Dibbles Exist and their hitboxes. Cera packs being their only counter Cera can 1 bite vomit even Dilos + Cera Infestation Carno being a Truck Lag & Fatal Errors I can't really put my finger on it....Why Omnis have nearly gone extinct
Yuuuuup it's so frustrating. Made worse by latency on pounce. Ceras can be pinned by two omnis, but if the server decides you got hit by an alt attack after already latching to the cerato, you immediately fall off and vomit now. So they're just simply not even worth trying to fight
@@dinometta fair point but latency can also help omnis in some cases. You can be hitting them and it won’t register, they also tp on you with their pounce which can be very frustrating to deal with
The damage model looks wrong honestly. 2 raptors hanging on your back and rending your back and sides with their mega claws and its fine, but a herrera jumps from a tree and you are dead.
For god sake, an hour long, nothing burger brawl. They need to add some anti-heel to bleed or some thing to stop the thing from just healing constantly.
Yup. Would have been over quickly without mud camping. Either the raptors would have died or he would have. And the odds were in his favor. Instead we got to have 5 second bouts of fighting followed by 5 minutes of standing or sitting until I was the only raptor left and the cerato showed up. And honestly if it hadn't, I would have either starved to death or died to the teno(the most likely option after all those pounces and my low stamina)
Carnos at the end were just trying to comprehend the back magic. But at the same time, one of the straight forward fights in the video. Ironically enough as malarkey seemed to have happened with each other fight.
I stopped playing raptor because of the weird cannibal raptor groups that hunt me down mercilessly. Sometimes they lure me in as if they are friendly and then just pin me as 6 of them just rip me apart.
They're definitely more scarce. I know where people tend to be and even then I hardly find any raptors that aren't either doing nothing just living on AI, or mixpacking
I do somewhat like the state that cera is in - as a solo dinosuar Bring a potential pack to the table and you better start runnin. They've changed it to effectively fill the apex slot and forgot that you can group to 4 total. 4 ceratos will munch anything not a stego/deino without much issue. It's not impossible to 1v1 ceratos, infact as a tenno, if you can aim, it's not that bad at all. You'll be injured, but you'll win. Raptor as a whole just feels underwhelming. They dont do enough bleed IMO. The pounce should be more rewarding.
If cerato is going to remain this strong, pack numbers should be reduced to 2-3 like carno. 4 is just too much. 1v1 cera v teno sucks for the teno, but definitely is doable. Any now than that though and you need to get out asap
@@dinomettaI'd say it is more then doable honestly I've killed 4 ceras as a teno with a friend of mine who was injured from an ongoing fight with a pack of omnis we still died to omnis after defeating ceras but took down a few of them before we were killed eventually. I should add tho that the ceras were not quite intelligent with their attacks they kept running into our kick and tail slams
@@robboss204 oh yeah, it's doable if the ceratos are not very tactical! They die quickly if they keep getting flattened and kicked. But a smart cerato group is pretty well unstoppable
Personally, I play raptor because its relatively short grow timer, I have a full time job and dont have hours upon hours to grow a tank up, just to die a minute after..(literally happened after I fully grew a croc, as soon as i was an adult i got ganged up on from my croc group ); )
I’m no Isle player (considering it tho despite only having an iMac) and even I could tell you seemed to be getting bucked off unreasonably fast by the teno compared to the two carnivores (can’t remember name) you fought with Acro. You were on his back for ages! :D Out of all your videos, playing Deino seems most appealing so far, even tho I love raptors. Also, Acro’s raptor skin is beautiful!
personally the biggest issue is the ping on the official servers with ppl hitting bs shots and u not being able to hit any, that and sideways dibbles with hitboxes 2x their size, its infuriating to die to a way you yourself couldn't predict because the game said so
Lol I searched for tacos too. Not shown is me scouring West rail beach, wandering Highlands and digging up 4-5 empty burrows, etc. they just didn't want to exist outside of the one I found while fighting the dibble x]
I feel like we have probably been in a raptor squad together more then once lol. Im pasta the green raptor haha. Love your videos though keep it up! One day raptor will he good again i just know it
Cool musics used ! Because it is only fights but most are not with hardcore music, it differenciates the gameplay moments. Liked it ! The violin was going on for a while, kinda tiresome. And the Indian theme musics were great ! Thanks have a nice day, from France
Anyone know what genre of music is in these videos? (along the lines of the track at 6:05 ) I really like it and wanna listen to some for my commute to work
Raptors are meant to be pack hunters, so it's no wonder playing solo is difficult. But that tenonto was crazy. Surviving a pack of raptors AND a cera? I get why teno is as strong as it is now, but once more dinosaurs get added, it needs a bit of a nerf. Not too much but certainly a little bit.
Awesome video!!! Maybe the first time i've ever seen the cannibalism mutation used "as intended". You still have excellent decision making. Hot take: the teno didn't want a fight, it wanted easy kills. Dilo is quite a bit easier to kill than omni. That jump saves the creature so often. Acronym!!!! Always coming in like a hero wearing a cape 🎉
You're not wrong. He just wanted to kill stuff, but didn't want to do so if it meant a risk. That dang hunt dragged on for so long. I trimmed it down to 5 minutes, but we put so much rend and then bite pounce in him. Alongside bites. I don't know how he stayed on his feet through all of that and then the cerato too. Aside from healing in the mud and on the rock that is.
Love the videos! A bit self indulgent but id love to see a video of you play a hypsi i think their just so cute and the only real reason im thinking of buying the isle lol
"The heck. This dude must be made of literal titanium." Nah, dude's made of tactile endurance. That mutation is so ridiculously overpowered for herbis, especially when fighting a pack of raptors. That teno probably sounded healthy because it had regained stamina from damage, and was able to just keep running. On top of that, the cera was impatient and assumed the teno was low enough to facetank, and practically got himself killed. I feel like the best way to counter tactile, is to assume all herbis are using it, and just go for straight bleed attacks. But if you do that, herbis have the amazing capability to ALSO take epidermal fibrosis and reduce their bleed. It's even more obnoxious when they stand in a mudpit, unmoving, for the entirety of a fight. As if THAT change wasn't unbalanced already, tenos can also heal in a absurd amount of time. I once fell off a cliff, landed myself on red, decided to sit patiently for about seven minutes till I was back to blue, and was able to get up and continue on my way. Also, the instant dismount is a completely unnecessary change. Only Dondi knows why they all thought that was a good idea.
Yeah, mutations really complicate hunts that way, especially longer ones. Tenos already have an obscene amount of stamina and blood. Add in those two mutations and they're basically untouchable the second the look at mud or a rock
The Omni's evasiveness is simply an unreliable way to avoid death when attacking another dino. Your pounces are not exactly easy to land, and bucking can get you dead within seconds (even if you're actively trying to disengage immediately). If omnis were less squishy it would make up for this to some extent, but thats not really the intended play style. Realistically omnis need a stickier pounce, a more control over when they can dismount, and perhaps a smaller hit box (but idk). Also, I honestly don't know how good their bleed or damage is while latched on because Ive never been able to kill anything of a decent size before they get a hit on me. So its also possible they could use a buff to their right click/left click actions while latched on (but I have no idea).
I definitely think that rend and bite pounce need a buff. It's pretty nasty against things like carnos that have almost no blood in their body. But teno blood pool has been buffed to the point that I actively avoid trying to bleed them and go for damage pounce instead. And even then, you see where that got us in the end. Add in RNG based pounce and it just doesn't feel worth pouncing
@@dinometta 100% agree on the rng pounce, and ill have to take your word on the rend and bite. I just haven't pounced a carno for a while.. but i can definitely attest to tenos seeming to have a massive blood pool.
I cannot comprehend how some Isle RUclipsrs play on servers where their ping is 80 to 100+... I always pick the servers where I have around 40 before logging in.
@@Egobyte83 that's a new thing with scent while using night vision. It pulses outward and shows the outlines of things around you in the dark, so if you're somewhere that's extra low light(say inside a cave or a human structure with the lights off), the pulse will show you the walls and nearby objects within range for a moment. That way you're not moving completely blind
My biggest issue is connectivity. Raptors suffer the most from lags and desync. Oh you thought you pounced me? Nah think again in reality the server thinks you got impaled by my stagomizers. So now, on your screen, you get teleported from pounce position on my side to limp ragdoll on my tail. For an animal that is supposed to hunt above its own weightclass, this is absolutely unforgivable. Because the animals that don´t outright oneshot you, can throw you to the ground with their attacks or at the very least injure you so severely that you are out of the fight anyways. And its not like this is a new thing. This was a problem for omnis from day 1. Sure a lot of hunts might go well. But rolling a die everytime I pounce to see if I just die because the server thinks its time does not feel good. Troodon suffers from this too, but since that grows way faster I don´t nearly care as much.
@Chrisfragger1 I actually started another herra playthrough this week! Those usually take longer because getting enough footage is rough, but hopefully soon!
@@ZackSavage I dunno, many fights in the isle end in 1-4 hits. A single tail swing from a stego can kill most of the roster. Teno can kill a raptor in a single tail slam into face kick combo. The smaller animals like Omni do less damage, but can still kill things like galli(which are within their size range, being only 25kg lighter I believe) in a single pounce. Ultimately it just depends on what's fighting what.
@@dinometta I should have specified that the carnivores feel lackluster in terms of damage. I think that plays a role in carnivore players largely leaving herbivores alone. I would say that skill level being equal herbivores are always at an advantage over similarly sized carnivores.
@ZackSavage Oh absolutely. Carnivores honestly do better hunting other carnivores and that in and of itself is a problem. I mean, cerato can do some hefty damage, but everything else currently struggles to hunt the herbivores (other than dryo and hypsi, but those are basically useless as they're tiny). And unfortunately, the upcoming additions herbivore-wise won't change that. Raptors are still going to struggle to hunt herbivores. Stego is too strong, dibble is quite strong too, tenos go down fairly okay but only if they don't know what they're doing. Adding Maia isn't going to help as Maia is also large and strong. Kentro is supposed to be smaller, but you can't tell me those shoulder spikes aren't going to be incredibly detrimental to raptor pounce gameplay. I dunno, I just really hope we get some changes that encourage hunting herbivores reasonably soon
@@dinometta I don't think small changes would fix it. It would have to be a near rework of the combat system. Carnivores (especially carno and omni) need massive damage buffs at the cost of stamina drain. this way landing pounces and charges will more reliably get you a kill, but missing them will give herbivores a way to escape.
Raptor was my main before, I still play it sometimes, just feels a bit too frustrating these days. My biggest issue was the stamina draining so fast that pouncing was never worth it and you wouldn't survive a full fight if you had to keep running, unless you had reliable pack members to help stretch it out the whole fight. I still really like the playstyle though. I love being small and fast and agile. On another note, could you share your graphics settings? I always find it so difficult to keep track of players in dense forests or even just in tall grass. Makes it near impossible to hit anyone cause they just blend together with everything else while im moving my cam (and thats with motion blur off). Your vids seem a bit more clear though.
I'm running everything on epic except shadow smoothing. But I also have dlss set on balanced(when it works and doesn't make my screen freak out, love the isle sometimes)
Only fought once in a mud pit. Us 2 Stegos vs 7-9 raptors and 5 deinos. If that's still "mildly inconvienienced" then idk. Both of us were out of stam and the entire fight took 30 minutes.
@@dinometta Haha yeah. Only played my first herbi after getting killed once to many times by a Deino. And wanted to go on a Deino hunt as a Stego. I didn't play the game for a while now and the Stego is grabable by the Deino for a while as well. I liked my Hera games. The community is just a bit special. So I'm avoiding the game like a rotten corpse on the road now due of it. Was (and probably is) a great game but just not for my nerves anymore. ^^
Hey Metta you can still eat Dilos organs and get nutrients as a raptor. I eat organs from every kinda corpse when playing as Ptera, but it applies to any dinosaur as long as you’re not cannibalizing when you shouldn’t be. I should say, organs always provide nutrients as long as they’re not rotted or from a member of your own species when your own species is not in your diet.
Im pretty sure she knows that, don’t worry, I just don’t think she wanted to waste time doing it though because they would be too small to fill her diets at the time.
Yeah, I know. The dilo was just fresh spawn size so his organs wouldn't have given me more than a couple % worth of diets. If he'd still been on my diet generally though, those plus his corpse would have been enough
@@tadasdovii8262 When you're running solo, pouncing too often is asking to run out of stamina. But also dibble is wonky and I'd rather be safe and only pounce the back just in case it goes into sparring and forces a face check
@@dinometta omg this- Raptor is already so squishy as it is so if anything making its dps worth the risk for hunting others, it immediately becomes that "high risk, high reward" type of dino. Imo all of the clips of badass raptor players just killings stuff with cool and calculated moves sends shivers down my spine... ❤️🔥
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my personal experience as a raptor main, i think we've become less common because of just how squishy we are, essentially being killed in 4-5 bites, while it takes us significantly longer to take down a bigger dino, even with a pack. that along with how gimmicky pounce can be. my biggest issue is releasing from pounce and i get thrown in a random direction that ends up getting me killed, its quite frustrating
Yeah, like I really feel like pounce could be incredibly cool. And it is, when it works. But now with bucking being RNG based, it's almost not even worth the stamina to try. Better to just fight with bites and risk dying to latency hits(or just bad timing, I'm good at dying to my bad timing)
@@dinomettatiming is the annoying part imo lol I hope they fix latency and make the hitboxes less nitpicky to hit sometime down the road. You have to click early at the right time to have some creatures’ bite hitboxes hit. Like omni and cerato. They only hit at like the last nanosecond of the animation lol. That used to not be the case from what I’ve seen in older update 4 videos.
I think a big part is the squishiness paired with the rubberbanding ghost hits. Died so often to absolute ridiculous hits (5m away still hits me somehow) that I stopped playing omni altogether.
@@Kampfcookie100 this. It’s not just omni either. Everything hitbox wise is just wack right now. Hopefully we get to a point soon where they can fix the latency. Also tail tip hits should do a lot less damage to be honest. A stego with its tail attack hitting your tail tip as a cera takes away a quarter if not more of your health (you’re on yellow hp, I can confirm even when realistically being hit on the tail with no bleed, if I’m full hp I’m brought to yellow hp).
Great vid! The teno is the perfect example why I hate herbis from the bottom of my heart 🤮
That Deinosuchus jumpscared you so hard XD. I do that mouse wobble thing ALL THE TIME playing the Isle.
He did, goodness!
Yeah i noticed it too
@@xxMrbojanqlezxx same lol luckily I don’t usually audibly make any noise though… but I do flinch suprisingly easy even during a fight that I’ve been in for a couple minutes already sometimes 🤣
@@dtbrex08 Usually i go "OH SH!T" or "YOU MF" and start laughing at how bad the other dino makes me flinch the mouse. Trex on legacy sometimes made me do that especially since I played allo most of the time.
I additionally jump everytime xD
In an ideal world, any and every dinosaur would have some serious anxiety seeing a pack of 3 or more raptors approaching.
Right? Makes me a little sad that raptor just gets bullied heavily these days, even in packs.
@@nerdoutreachprogram5358 I remember back when I played carno in update 4, I never was that good, but for as long as I played carno on spiro up until update 6, I was always nervous even as a full adult when I saw just 2-3 raptors because I knew their bleed was scary and that my inexperience would only aid them in killing me 🤣 plus inexperience = panic aswell so it was a rough but fun time
The house sized sauropod:
@@dinomettaTroodons too lol
Not really. In real life the raptors were small. The only one's the size of omni were Utah raptor and maybe deinonychus and there's little evidence either were pack hunters.
27:10 This is exactly why I don't want to even touch herbivores as a carnivore anymore. You two have been fighting this Teno for over an hour, an adult Cerato shows up and does damage but STILL DIES. I even said out loud "That's F**king ridiculous!". I definitely want herbies to have a good fight in them but the fact they can consistently 1vEveryDamnCarnivoreonthemap makes it just feel bad. I think they need a health nerf or a damage nerf. It makes no sense that they can kill basically anything with 6 shots max while being able to take an hours worth of damage. Rant over. Great video, as always.
Here is the biggest issue:
Bucking can throw you off in 1 second ( RNG)
Dismount(Spacebar) works after 2 seconds.
Meaning a chance exists for you to simply fall off before u can do LMB or RMB pounce or even jump of directly.
(And die because of it, think landing middle of a stego hitbox and its swinging you)
This in turns brings a fear with it due to how bucking is set up that you dont wanna pounce long, meaning: you don't actually deal any bleed damage, we did some testing and 1 omni could not even take 10% from a fg Stego with its full stamina bar, and we all know you won't even get to pounce it for 3 seconds, due to how weight affects how fast you get bucked.
So all in all, a deadly cocktail to waste 1 hour and 20 min in Survival and feeling you have been done dirty.
Can you still play and succeed? sure i was able to kill stuff bites only. and ofcourse the pin mechanic is very powerful.
Yup. I think RNG based pounce was a mistake. At least before, we could decide whether a pounce was worth risking because we had x amount of stamina. Now it's deciding whether we simply want to die instantly because we can't dismount before being bucked off and clobbered.
If they're going to force dismount, raptors should be forced into the dismount animation and thrown further away as long as they still have stamina to technically do so.
@@dinometta i agree
Bucking throwing you off in one second is insane, I know pounce can be overpowered and has been overpowered before but this is way too excessive. I think it can be fixed pretty easily though, just increase the minimum amount of time you have by a second or two (instead of 1 second give raptors at least 3 seconds to dismount) before getting bucked off and make dismount instant so you have enough time to see your target bucking and dismount, maybe be able to pick the direction you want to jump off to if you are fast enough. Dying just because the game happened to decide you do is never fair.
Everytime i use "E" i dont even buck ???!
@@Mxlch999 I used to think the same back in update 4. Make sure they’ve already pounced you maybe, then press and hold e? If you see your creature do a little struggle animation it should be working. Hope that helps.
The birds squawking in the backround cheering you guys on was fucking sending me
Lol they're funny little dudes
@@dinometta its the pounce @30:23 they go wild like YEAH GET 'EM BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD SEED FOR THE SEED THRONE!
@@junkyardmutt859 lmao seed for the seed throne 🤣😂
The fact bleed didn’t kill him either in that amount of time with X amount of bites says something in itself about raptors capabilities
Yeah, raptor really just needs a bleed buff. For being the bleeder, he sure seems to do less bless than.... Everything else including dilo and Herrera
i think omnis dual pounce was made literally to stop people like this who spam bite on omni, im not saying its wrong but bleeding people out was intended for pouncing.
The fact that you ate the taco while fighting a dibble shows the difference in skill
Lol I was hungry 🤣
🤣
0:37 I FELT that flinch bro
Hahaha he scared me soooo bad!
I like how these are gameplay commentary vids but it feels like a nature documentary narrated by the dinosaurs which I guess makes it an autobiography
@@aroseydragon2873 Thank you, I enjoy sharing my stories!
I genuinely have a soft spot in my heart for raptor players, I never had the patience nor skill to learn how to play them. I'm a herbi main and I love the genuine fear a raptor pack can put in us, skilled players or not. That teno made me sad though, if you're so desperate for a fight then at least be a good sport. Using terrain is for when you don't want a fight but one came to you, at least in my opinion.
@@ozuray4307 I agree. Terrain is used when you are desperate to survive an attack. Not when you're aggressively begging for a flight
The most lethal dino is the Bugssauro. The stress from dying to bugs is all the fun you money will buy. Get ready do be tricked by the graphs. Remember: 10 years under development!
And those dang things are everywhere you look!
keep in mind this is an early beta version of the game so dont judge the team too hard they are doing the best they can and think about it a beta version of the game is better then the actual wich is pretty suprising i think they did a really good job with evrima even tho there is some bugs
@@Hamstersaurusrex oh of course. I have nothing against the devs at all. I have a lot of respect for what they're doing. It does still suck to deal with the bugs though
@@Hamstersaurusrex I judge the devs-- and by this I mean head developer (Dondi) and others for creating just the worst possible environment on their Discord and other unsavory deeds. They're not good people to be around.
And I had been around The Isle since day one, yet I can't even be in the Discord server because I was instantly banned for... saying something as silly as, "human thicc" because they sent a NUDE human model in development channel.
But I've seen people be incredibly uncivil to each other and toxicity every single day within the general chat.
With that being said, The Isle out of the trio is the most tolerable game to me. Just sucks it has to be ran by manchildren.
there’s bugs in this game? nvm i’m stupid i thought you meant actual bugs not coding errors lol
hearing the pure joy in laughter from you both was so lovely honestly after all that suffering!
I tell my friends i play a dinosaur game and they immediately want to play raptor. So id say through pop culture, predominantly jurassic park movies, is why most people want to play raptor.
I agree. That's how it has been every time I introduce my friends to the game too
Personally would want to try an anky or anos as another commenter called them.
The only weakness a cerato has is…other ceratos.
Deinosuchus
@@JonathanNormandygood point since the big croc can’t vomit
or the gatars. gatars go NOM and drown.
Besides a Carno, Diablo, Stego, Croc, Troodons, Dilos
A carno and a raptor mix packing nearly killed me for bleeding if I hadn’t gotten lucky enough for other ceratos to find and save me.
I love playing as a raptor but to really do it well you need a group of people who also understand the strategy of playing a raptor. That is sooooo hard to find! Just yesterday I was in a group of 6. Spent the time to get to full grown, helped our little ones get perfect diets, all well grown. We found a Cera. All alone. Did we take turns giving it some bleed and then just hounding it until it bled out? No. We watched as one face tanked it over and over while another of us jumped around to "distract it." Instantly taking two of our pack out of the equation. Waited for them to heal and rest to go again, they repeated their actions. The commotion attracted two Dilos. 6 omnis vs 2 dilos after the Cera ran away? Should be a win. Nope. One of ours pounced another of our pack and never let go, just killed them, while getting munched by a dilo themselves. A 3rd omni just straight up left and ran away, while the 4th also pounced our other friend and killed them while also dying to a dilo. If this is what's available as teammates, I'll just stick to my life as a salt water drinking bird that likes to yell at deinos. 😅
This. I ran into a pack myself the other day. 9 of us in total. Could have taken on the world if they were coordinated.
They chose.... A herd of 4 tenos and 3-5 stegos. I sat up on a mountain side and watched them run around in circles until a cerato showed up and started mixpacking... With the tenos. Once the herd left, I tried to help with the cerato, but a second showed up and by then half the pack was already injured or dead. I got puked on pounce, even though I latched perfectly(gotta love latency) and that was me deciding I wouldn't touch another cerato unless it was single-omni pinnable
I'm honestly giggling, this reminds me of a pack of about sixteen raptors in legacy telling my adult trike, with its butt against a wall, that I should be scared of them and give up my food and water hole because, I quote, "Herbis eat grass and we eat ass so you should be scared of us and run away". They went on about how bad trike was and smack talked for about twenty minutes whilst I just sat there staring at them and shrugging out a nope. Not moving.
Sixteen reports for kosing/hacking later (and one very funny video of raptors YEETING themselves repeatedly at the head of an adult trike) the admin on call for that server determined that they died from 'mass stupidity' so I didn't have to worry about a ban and could go back to lounging in the sun at my pond.
My rex main friend found it hilarious because I'm terrible at pvp. Absolutely awful. So a pack that size losing to me kept him cackling for weeks - especially since they talked so big beforehand.
We had an infamous Teno main in an old realism server I would play in who was famous for engaging in *extremely* long Raptor battles, sometimes involving up to 8 raptors. We also had some dedicated packs that'd always spawn in together, so these were no PUG raptors either. Wouldn't be shocked if it was him
@@fishcatch22 Could have been!
I primarily watch you for your peak Isle gameplay but I also just have to tell you your music choices are also fantastic in this
@@wulvve Thank you!
30:25 you ARE so cool Acro!!! Love these collabs!!! Can watch you too together all day! So much personality! Especially Metta's scream, lol!😂
Herbi players using the environment: "OMG SKILL ISSUE THEY ARE JUST SCARED WAH WAH WAH"
Carni players using the environment: "Oh no it's just using the environment to our advantage and requires a lot of tactful planning and skill to do."
I see a pattern here. lol
My only issue is this guy wanted the fight. Aggressively wanted it to the point of chasing me to almost 0 stamina the first time I tried to back out. And then when I crossed to leave after an hour of fighting with no progress, he came chasing after me again.
It's one thing to use the environment in a fight where you've been attacked and are trying to survive in hopes of either killing them or them deciding the fight isn't worth it. It's another when you won't let the predators walk away without being aggressively chased.
Could we have simply kept running? Absolutely. But if you are desperate for some action, camping for the vast majority of the fight only makes it miserable for everyone
@@dinometta ya right out wanting a fight even agressivly so. must have been on a high ass horse atm. then tail was ducked the other raptors showed up. so far my best fun was with critter were i can kind of ignore people existing. as thoes areas dont seam to suffer a lot compared to the odd mixbag of pvp side of things.
Never played this game but in PvP in general, there's a pretty big difference in using terrain and los strategically, and camping one spot because you're an asshole and bad sport.
I got recommended this after getting pounced by my own pack while i'm latched to a bigger dino 3 times in less than 1 hour. Outside of the stupidity of other raptor players my main issue is getting vomit sickness in 1 click from a Cerato and getting thrown off while latched in 1 millisecond while the other player holds E and gives them a free hit. For those reasons, i'm out.
I feel you here. There's a reason I very seldom play in a pack with random raptors. I'd much rather go duo with Acro or in a small coordinated pack with other skilled raptors in VC. Much less likely to have friendly fire pounces.
Either way, being able to move slots and such doesn't really matter when you get bucked off in 1 second before you can even react to hit dismount
@@dinomettaTrue, only used that mechanic the first day to test it and never again
man your music choices are awesome, your videos are always super watchable but the music definitely adds so much!
Thank you! I'm glad you like the music!
Agreed, very much like how it’s a variety of different genre of musics too with every video:D
I haven't seen the video yet but I'm pretty sure is bc ceras are extremely OP now, Herbie's makes extremely big packs and pounce is the worst thing in the world rn cuz is bug asf, that's what I feel, I'm not particularly a raptor player but I like it and now kill a single cera with a pack of raptors is actually quite a tough task, and for a half a ton of dinos making pack doesn't make much sense to me the fact that cost so much to hunt decent preys for a pack, cuz a herrara surely wouldn't fill a pack of raptors and 2 ceras can beat a pack of 10 raptors no joke
You're exactly correct. Cerato is my biggest issue right now. But RNG bucking screwing with my ability to pounce is also the absolute worst
@@dinomettathey should’ve made it take a certain amount of time to buck off or something, not just rng
Nice vid. Also my budgies were also enjoying your budgies chirps 🤣
Feel like either the raptors bleed or health get slight buff and/or Tano get a debuff...
Or possibly have it to where if say 2-3 or more raptors pounce on a tano it should pin it down at least.
And to add on so that mud can be an advantage for carnivs as well be it that any creature pounced in mud will take a slight stun duration and if pinned then the prey will take slightly longer to get up because well its mud. That way mud can ve a double edge sword for both sides.
Is saying the Omnis’ are the equivalent of a mix of a honey badger, rabbies infested chihuahuas, and that one crack head down my street?
Great video as always Mettaton.
Lol with extra crackhead for overall "oops" moments
Because they ruined pounce. You get instantly knocked off right next to the enemy. Pouncing now is a death sentence
@@domedsky yup, if they're going to do this, forced dismount needs to send you further away
I remember the isle evrima 2021... just omnis vs carnos 24/7... making super packs just ot fight to death like a medieval battle, corpses everywhere, only one side won or retreated with 5 survivors from a 15-20 sized packs.. yes ive been to dinosaur vietnam.😅
Haha ahh the good old days
@@dinometta that's how I honestly picture the isle, survival, big hunts, battles... not hackers and unbalanced cerato pimp making you vomit your stego with a one bite lmao.
I really like your narration style, it's quite enjoyable to watch ^^
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy it!
The growth time being 2 hours (same as cera) is insane tbh
@@potato1841 hard agree there. Especially since cerato is so much stronger
its funny how you can solo a carno but a single teno can tank up to 5 omnis for 1h
For realllll! But then again, when something decides to camp, there's basically nothing an Omni can do
....not like teno is a almost purely defensive herbie that is meant to use its environment to its advantage, then you have a bad carno player
@ElComposta Nah, they just make Herb tanky to encourage players to play them. However, the developers mess up by making adult Herb too powerful for most standard Carno group.
I had one game where 8 of us Omis repeatedly pounced on an adult Stego over 30 minutes. The stego survived long enough to be rescue by two other adult stagos. Instead, we were force to hunt other carnos because we could actually kill them easier.
@@Normacly stego could have good diet with 15% bleed resistant mutation aswell as possibly bad Omni players, and yeah of course a carno pair will be easier to kill than a stego depending on what update this happened
I used to play omni a lot. Not so much anymore. It’s mostly due to a mixture of latency, weird hitboxes and the bucking being able to knock you off of a pounce too quickly. If I am like 10 meters to the side of a dibble, I should not be getting hit by attacks that aren’t even facing me
I agree. Latency and such is honestly killing small tier gameplay in a big way
Really glad the YT algo threw your channel on my recommended, loving your play and video style! Hoping to begin doing very similar videos like yours, minus a lot of skill... LOL - Hope to run into you one day in the plains!
Welcome! Haha I'm sure you're better than you think! See you around the servers!
I was beyond appalled by how that smaller dibble didn't go down... you were just about the size of it and it didn't go. Crazy.
@@mustard9808 Yeah, unfortunately that's something that happens often when playing raptor alone. Their damage output just isn't high enough to finish a fight if it drags on too long
Bucking is wack
Dibbles Exist and their hitboxes. Cera packs being their only counter
Cera can 1 bite vomit even Dilos + Cera Infestation
Carno being a Truck
Lag & Fatal Errors
I can't really put my finger on it....Why Omnis have nearly gone extinct
Yuuuuup it's so frustrating. Made worse by latency on pounce. Ceras can be pinned by two omnis, but if the server decides you got hit by an alt attack after already latching to the cerato, you immediately fall off and vomit now. So they're just simply not even worth trying to fight
@@dinomettalatency isn’t just an omni problem
@@Jxmper no, it's just that smaller animals suffer the most. They don't have the hp to tank a few latency hits like the larger animals can
@@dinometta fair point but latency can also help omnis in some cases. You can be hitting them and it won’t register, they also tp on you with their pounce which can be very frustrating to deal with
i can tell ya, the only pray tehy CAN eat. shit they can solo pin. from beipi to young critters.
i am currently a raptor main. i love the feeling of being in the lower middle part of the food chain. scavenging and killing what i can to survive
I feel you there! Raptor has been and will likely always be one of my staples
The damage model looks wrong honestly. 2 raptors hanging on your back and rending your back and sides with their mega claws and its fine, but a herrera jumps from a tree and you are dead.
^ I agree. We were 900kg of claws and teeth clinging to him, but he was able to shrug us off and still kill a 1000+kg cerato?? Whatttt
i mean something jumping on you with its claws out from 15 meters above you is going to do some damage
For god sake, an hour long, nothing burger brawl. They need to add some anti-heel to bleed or some thing to stop the thing from just healing constantly.
Yup. Would have been over quickly without mud camping. Either the raptors would have died or he would have. And the odds were in his favor. Instead we got to have 5 second bouts of fighting followed by 5 minutes of standing or sitting until I was the only raptor left and the cerato showed up. And honestly if it hadn't, I would have either starved to death or died to the teno(the most likely option after all those pounces and my low stamina)
@@dinometta meanwhile, the teno: "Watch me outplay 5 raptors and a cerato, super ez mode"
17:35 its absurd that the dibble isnt already dangerously low on blood, you've landed at least a dozen bites and 3 pounces!
If only x[
21:28 rip Kodog, W teno hitbox as usual
Carnos at the end were just trying to comprehend the back magic.
But at the same time, one of the straight forward fights in the video. Ironically enough as malarkey seemed to have happened with each other fight.
The other fights were so frustrating. Being a solo raptor just gets so weird sometimes!
Raptor was the most fun to play, pounce is effectively broken though, so now its probably cera
@@SimonBauer yeah, I know the feeling :[
Holy crap, that "Mama Africa" song goes so gd hard I had to open it in a new tab to experience the PURE DRUM
@@jacobscott2473 haha love me some drums xD
I stopped playing raptor because of the weird cannibal raptor groups that hunt me down mercilessly. Sometimes they lure me in as if they are friendly and then just pin me as 6 of them just rip me apart.
Ah, man I hate that. Reasons I play mostly solo. Can't trust randoms anymore
@@dinometta never can never will. untill a kill is shared. or its a herbi game.
Nice videos!! Finally some good quality Evrima content. :)
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed!
i was a rapter main but once gateway started i couldnt find anyone so i stopped playing rapter
They're definitely more scarce. I know where people tend to be and even then I hardly find any raptors that aren't either doing nothing just living on AI, or mixpacking
17:35 "It's over Metta: I have the high ground!" Metta: "You underestimate my in-game hours!"
@@Shylock0031 lol if those pachys hadn't shown up, I would have gotten him too!
Just came across your channel and you summed it up perfectly; every part was enjoyable to watch!
@@usefulreptile Welcome! I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Im glad u did add more tribal music :), also damn they should nerd ceras toxin a bit
I thought of your previous comment when I was adding the music for this video! I love some good tribal music, even if it's harder to find,!
I do somewhat like the state that cera is in - as a solo dinosuar
Bring a potential pack to the table and you better start runnin.
They've changed it to effectively fill the apex slot and forgot that you can group to 4 total.
4 ceratos will munch anything not a stego/deino without much issue.
It's not impossible to 1v1 ceratos, infact as a tenno, if you can aim, it's not that bad at all. You'll be injured, but you'll win.
Raptor as a whole just feels underwhelming. They dont do enough bleed IMO. The pounce should be more rewarding.
If cerato is going to remain this strong, pack numbers should be reduced to 2-3 like carno. 4 is just too much.
1v1 cera v teno sucks for the teno, but definitely is doable. Any now than that though and you need to get out asap
@@dinometta I absolutely agree that their pack number should be reduced to 3.
And bile should likely be somewhat toned down.
@@dinomettaI'd say it is more then doable honestly I've killed 4 ceras as a teno with a friend of mine who was injured from an ongoing fight with a pack of omnis we still died to omnis after defeating ceras but took down a few of them before we were killed eventually. I should add tho that the ceras were not quite intelligent with their attacks they kept running into our kick and tail slams
@@robboss204 oh yeah, it's doable if the ceratos are not very tactical! They die quickly if they keep getting flattened and kicked. But a smart cerato group is pretty well unstoppable
I can't get evirma to work and it makes me so sad :/ so I watch these to help :) awesome content metta you got a new watcher!
@@bellhoptilyoudrop hopefully you'll get it working in the future! And welcome to the channel!
This is the most frustrating part about the game to me, is that it has whack performance.
Your narration is awesome!
@@poimon5607 Thank you!
Personally, I play raptor because its relatively short grow timer, I have a full time job and dont have hours upon hours to grow a tank up, just to die a minute after..(literally happened after I fully grew a croc, as soon as i was an adult i got ganged up on from my croc group ); )
Makes sense! It's one of my main go-tos. Quick growth and a decent amount of action quickly.
awesome vid meta as a raptor main ur gameplay always helps me learn better pvp!!!
Thank you! Always love me some raptor time!
wow!! great omni play!!!
@@splatsy8563 thanks!
I’m no Isle player (considering it tho despite only having an iMac) and even I could tell you seemed to be getting bucked off unreasonably fast by the teno compared to the two carnivores (can’t remember name) you fought with Acro. You were on his back for ages! :D Out of all your videos, playing Deino seems most appealing so far, even tho I love raptors. Also, Acro’s raptor skin is beautiful!
@@moonwatcher4047 Deino is great fun at times, lots of waiting around for something to happen though!
Acro has gorgeous dino skins!
01:30 love the music!!
@@emimartinic thank you!
i miss omni back in spiro i was in a huge pack and we took down 3 stegos hearing about 20 or 30 omnis barking away was quite the experience
@@justasweatyboi3222 Me too honestly
12:53 Nice music choice!
Thank you!
30:49 nice scream lol
Haha got a little spook xD
great video, and great narration. Keep up the good work!
Thank you, I'll keep doing my best!
personally the biggest issue is the ping on the official servers with ppl hitting bs shots and u not being able to hit any, that and sideways dibbles with hitboxes 2x their size, its infuriating to die to a way you yourself couldn't predict because the game said so
This. Goodness I'm so tired of latency hits and dibbles suddenly dating sideways while looking forward
That teno was 100% healing itself with hacks. There's no way it didn't bleed out after being pounced and bitten THAT much.
It is possible, who even knows. It just sucked haha
here she is searching t he entire map for intestines but could has just went after a psitaco
Lol I searched for tacos too. Not shown is me scouring West rail beach, wandering Highlands and digging up 4-5 empty burrows, etc. they just didn't want to exist outside of the one I found while fighting the dibble x]
I feel like we have probably been in a raptor squad together more then once lol. Im pasta the green raptor haha. Love your videos though keep it up! One day raptor will he good again i just know it
It's very possible, I've been in a lot of raptor packs since evrima began
Cool musics used ! Because it is only fights but most are not with hardcore music, it differenciates the gameplay moments. Liked it !
The violin was going on for a while, kinda tiresome. And the Indian theme musics were great !
Thanks have a nice day, from France
Thank you! Yeah that one song was a bit long, I should have cut the fight down a bit more so it didn't have to drag on so much!
Anyone know what genre of music is in these videos? (along the lines of the track at 6:05 ) I really like it and wanna listen to some for my commute to work
I believe it's Indian music, not sure the exact genre within it though, as they've got a nice range
music.ruclips.net/video/y9_G8YO2U5c/видео.html&si=gV2zOn6P_-91XzET
Shazam has your back when you need a track
Yes a new video let’s gooooooo 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yeeeee
@@dinometta yeeeeeeeeee
Also I swear Acronym is basically like the most reliable pack mate one can ever have in this game no matter what you are playing.
He seriously is. Couldn't ask for better backup in pretty much any situation
The music got me jamming in my chair 😂
@@RadioAshen heck yeah! I approve!
Raptors are meant to be pack hunters, so it's no wonder playing solo is difficult. But that tenonto was crazy. Surviving a pack of raptors AND a cera? I get why teno is as strong as it is now, but once more dinosaurs get added, it needs a bit of a nerf. Not too much but certainly a little bit.
@@topiheimola69 Last I heard, teno is the next to be slightly downsized(like carno), but don't quote me on that
@@dinometta oh, well that would be perfect :)
Awesome video!!! Maybe the first time i've ever seen the cannibalism mutation used "as intended". You still have excellent decision making.
Hot take: the teno didn't want a fight, it wanted easy kills. Dilo is quite a bit easier to kill than omni. That jump saves the creature so often.
Acronym!!!! Always coming in like a hero wearing a cape 🎉
You're not wrong. He just wanted to kill stuff, but didn't want to do so if it meant a risk. That dang hunt dragged on for so long. I trimmed it down to 5 minutes, but we put so much rend and then bite pounce in him. Alongside bites. I don't know how he stayed on his feet through all of that and then the cerato too. Aside from healing in the mud and on the rock that is.
"oh my goddess I am so cool" 😂😂😂
😂
dude your background music used in this video goes so hard.
@@CZARCA5T Thank you!
Raptor rodeo fight to the death - happy country music intensifies ^^
@@tomhoni9642 haha absolutely xD
Metta can you share ur setting for the isle please
I run everything on epic except for shadow smoothing
I feel like the slight server lag is always just enough to make my pounces glitch out everytime i try to go for something bigger than myself
This. Even with 40 ping I take unfair hits often as a raptor
@@dinometta its the same thing with dilo. Always getting bit from past the end of the tail
Everytime I play the isle like 60% of the server is omnis, they have not gone extinct I promise. Always huge megapacks of them.
Not extinct, just harder to find recently
Love the videos! A bit self indulgent but id love to see a video of you play a hypsi i think their just so cute and the only real reason im thinking of buying the isle lol
I need to get around to playing the smaller tiers more soon. Especially now that hypsi has growth
"The heck. This dude must be made of literal titanium."
Nah, dude's made of tactile endurance. That mutation is so ridiculously overpowered for herbis, especially when fighting a pack of raptors. That teno probably sounded healthy because it had regained stamina from damage, and was able to just keep running. On top of that, the cera was impatient and assumed the teno was low enough to facetank, and practically got himself killed. I feel like the best way to counter tactile, is to assume all herbis are using it, and just go for straight bleed attacks. But if you do that, herbis have the amazing capability to ALSO take epidermal fibrosis and reduce their bleed. It's even more obnoxious when they stand in a mudpit, unmoving, for the entirety of a fight. As if THAT change wasn't unbalanced already, tenos can also heal in a absurd amount of time. I once fell off a cliff, landed myself on red, decided to sit patiently for about seven minutes till I was back to blue, and was able to get up and continue on my way.
Also, the instant dismount is a completely unnecessary change. Only Dondi knows why they all thought that was a good idea.
Yeah, mutations really complicate hunts that way, especially longer ones. Tenos already have an obscene amount of stamina and blood. Add in those two mutations and they're basically untouchable the second the look at mud or a rock
it amazes me how long this game has been in development and they continue to make the same mistakes with the dinos being unbalanced
For real
The Omni's evasiveness is simply an unreliable way to avoid death when attacking another dino. Your pounces are not exactly easy to land, and bucking can get you dead within seconds (even if you're actively trying to disengage immediately).
If omnis were less squishy it would make up for this to some extent, but thats not really the intended play style. Realistically omnis need a stickier pounce, a more control over when they can dismount, and perhaps a smaller hit box (but idk).
Also, I honestly don't know how good their bleed or damage is while latched on because Ive never been able to kill anything of a decent size before they get a hit on me. So its also possible they could use a buff to their right click/left click actions while latched on (but I have no idea).
I definitely think that rend and bite pounce need a buff. It's pretty nasty against things like carnos that have almost no blood in their body. But teno blood pool has been buffed to the point that I actively avoid trying to bleed them and go for damage pounce instead. And even then, you see where that got us in the end.
Add in RNG based pounce and it just doesn't feel worth pouncing
@@dinometta 100% agree on the rng pounce, and ill have to take your word on the rend and bite. I just haven't pounced a carno for a while.. but i can definitely attest to tenos seeming to have a massive blood pool.
Great video!
Thank you!
loved hearing your budgie
They're Acro's little budgies!
@@dinometta I lost my budgie a few years ago so it struck a nice chord hearing it
@@ashleybreuer7569 aw, my condolences for your loss!
And thank you, get as much practice in as you can and you'll improve in no time!
I cannot comprehend how some Isle RUclipsrs play on servers where their ping is 80 to 100+... I always pick the servers where I have around 40 before logging in.
I try, but sometimes there's no good options for servers for me. Even the officials in my zone are 60+ ping
Raptor needs a buff. Should be a glass canon
It certainly needs something. It feels downright frustrating to play lately
Teno was a beast, just kicking ass and taking names. Good job!
That teno was something else haha
Yeah Cerato is so broken right now it's crazy that they thought it was it good idea.
@@smokingun710 I just hope they change it back
@@dinometta Yes, like asap lol. Good example of don't fix something that ain't broke.
always have been, its the isle easy mode.
That teno was even getting me annoyed 😂 they start getting bodied in the fight and have to camp to win that’s not fun at all
Haha and you only had to endure about 5-8 minutes of the hour of fighting xD
What was that shockwave looking thing at 1:00? :O I have never seen that before.
@@Egobyte83 that's a new thing with scent while using night vision. It pulses outward and shows the outlines of things around you in the dark, so if you're somewhere that's extra low light(say inside a cave or a human structure with the lights off), the pulse will show you the walls and nearby objects within range for a moment. That way you're not moving completely blind
@@dinometta ooh, neato! ^^
My biggest issue is connectivity. Raptors suffer the most from lags and desync. Oh you thought you pounced me? Nah think again in reality the server thinks you got impaled by my stagomizers. So now, on your screen, you get teleported from pounce position on my side to limp ragdoll on my tail.
For an animal that is supposed to hunt above its own weightclass, this is absolutely unforgivable. Because the animals that don´t outright oneshot you, can throw you to the ground with their attacks or at the very least injure you so severely that you are out of the fight anyways.
And its not like this is a new thing. This was a problem for omnis from day 1. Sure a lot of hunts might go well. But rolling a die everytime I pounce to see if I just die because the server thinks its time does not feel good.
Troodon suffers from this too, but since that grows way faster I don´t nearly care as much.
The dinos that rely on movement skills to win hunts get hit hardest by the lag. So annoying
This. Goodness it is so frustrating to take those unfair hits when you're already one of the more fragile animals!
As a casual observer, I've never played.... It seems that raptor is not as much a glass cannon as simply a glass.
@@Chrisfragger1 very much so right now. Used to be a glass cannon. Now it's just a glass that the bull in the China shop already blew through
@@dinometta I've been watching some Herrerasaurus playthroughs. Might be fun to watch you try that?
@Chrisfragger1 I actually started another herra playthrough this week! Those usually take longer because getting enough footage is rough, but hopefully soon!
Isle would be much more fun if fighting drained more stamina, but dealt more damage. Dinos feel nearly invincible.
@@ZackSavage I dunno, many fights in the isle end in 1-4 hits. A single tail swing from a stego can kill most of the roster. Teno can kill a raptor in a single tail slam into face kick combo.
The smaller animals like Omni do less damage, but can still kill things like galli(which are within their size range, being only 25kg lighter I believe) in a single pounce.
Ultimately it just depends on what's fighting what.
@@dinometta I should have specified that the carnivores feel lackluster in terms of damage. I think that plays a role in carnivore players largely leaving herbivores alone. I would say that skill level being equal herbivores are always at an advantage over similarly sized carnivores.
@ZackSavage Oh absolutely. Carnivores honestly do better hunting other carnivores and that in and of itself is a problem.
I mean, cerato can do some hefty damage, but everything else currently struggles to hunt the herbivores (other than dryo and hypsi, but those are basically useless as they're tiny). And unfortunately, the upcoming additions herbivore-wise won't change that. Raptors are still going to struggle to hunt herbivores. Stego is too strong, dibble is quite strong too, tenos go down fairly okay but only if they don't know what they're doing. Adding Maia isn't going to help as Maia is also large and strong. Kentro is supposed to be smaller, but you can't tell me those shoulder spikes aren't going to be incredibly detrimental to raptor pounce gameplay.
I dunno, I just really hope we get some changes that encourage hunting herbivores reasonably soon
@@dinometta I don't think small changes would fix it. It would have to be a near rework of the combat system. Carnivores (especially carno and omni) need massive damage buffs at the cost of stamina drain. this way landing pounces and charges will more reliably get you a kill, but missing them will give herbivores a way to escape.
Would have been funny if those Pachys were actually just there to body break the Diablo.
I wish! But nah, I ran off and a color of ceratos showed up and finished the dibble. The pachys later died by Highlands lake
Raptor was my main before, I still play it sometimes, just feels a bit too frustrating these days. My biggest issue was the stamina draining so fast that pouncing was never worth it and you wouldn't survive a full fight if you had to keep running, unless you had reliable pack members to help stretch it out the whole fight. I still really like the playstyle though. I love being small and fast and agile.
On another note, could you share your graphics settings? I always find it so difficult to keep track of players in dense forests or even just in tall grass. Makes it near impossible to hit anyone cause they just blend together with everything else while im moving my cam (and thats with motion blur off). Your vids seem a bit more clear though.
I'm running everything on epic except shadow smoothing. But I also have dlss set on balanced(when it works and doesn't make my screen freak out, love the isle sometimes)
Ahh, dont we all? And thanks!
Only fought once in a mud pit. Us 2 Stegos vs 7-9 raptors and 5 deinos. If that's still "mildly inconvienienced" then idk. Both of us were out of stam and the entire fight took 30 minutes.
@@SpicyFiur lol I'd say that's severely inconvenienced and justifiable camping xD
@@dinometta Haha yeah. Only played my first herbi after getting killed once to many times by a Deino. And wanted to go on a Deino hunt as a Stego. I didn't play the game for a while now and the Stego is grabable by the Deino for a while as well.
I liked my Hera games. The community is just a bit special. So I'm avoiding the game like a rotten corpse on the road now due of it. Was (and probably is) a great game but just not for my nerves anymore. ^^
@@SpicyFiur fair enough honestly. The game has been in a frustrating spot for a while now
Hey Metta you can still eat Dilos organs and get nutrients as a raptor. I eat organs from every kinda corpse when playing as Ptera, but it applies to any dinosaur as long as you’re not cannibalizing when you shouldn’t be.
I should say, organs always provide nutrients as long as they’re not rotted or from a member of your own species when your own species is not in your diet.
Im pretty sure she knows that, don’t worry, I just don’t think she wanted to waste time doing it though because they would be too small to fill her diets at the time.
Yeah, I know. The dilo was just fresh spawn size so his organs wouldn't have given me more than a couple % worth of diets. If he'd still been on my diet generally though, those plus his corpse would have been enough
[insert comment with compliment about your skill here]
14:44 Why you not puncing and rend him? You did punce from back but never from side. Is his sudes are protected by horns?
@@tadasdovii8262 When you're running solo, pouncing too often is asking to run out of stamina. But also dibble is wonky and I'd rather be safe and only pounce the back just in case it goes into sparring and forces a face check
@dinometta got it
Raptor needs a tiny buff tbh
A tiny bit more bleed with rend, or less chance of being bucked off instantly please
@@dinometta omg this- Raptor is already so squishy as it is so if anything making its dps worth the risk for hunting others, it immediately becomes that "high risk, high reward" type of dino. Imo all of the clips of badass raptor players just killings stuff with cool and calculated moves sends shivers down my spine... ❤️🔥