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I don't understand: he said he is losing 50k to 100k $ a month because he has to destroy so many mushrooms because there are not enough workers, but at the same time he is unable to pay the workers better wages to get more workers? wouldn't it be cheaper to pay more workers than to destroy mushrooms? also, if he knows he has only enough workers to pick 8 out of 10 houses, why than does he keep 10 full houses? is he unable to calculate or plan workforce? just seems like this dude is a bad business man.
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As a student I would have enjoyed picking mushrooms better than doing fast food, but you need part time hours. Also older workers semi-retired workers need part time hours. Farmers are spoiled by past workforce access to full-time slaves. You need to get creative.
@@m_d1905 True. However this looks like it is mostly done indoors. As long as they have a supply of compost they can have perpetual harvests year around.
@@m_d1905 wrong. Mushroom farming is highly timed for continuous production. They could definitely have part time workers... but wages are not comparable with other industries
@@matthewthiesen6098 - I'm hearing a lot of "business practices were based on the assumption of slave labor, and instead of adapting to free labor they're begging daddy government to give them more slaves." Pay your workers a fair wage, give them reasonable hours, and orient your business around that assumption. Stop relying on an assumption that you can work people 12 hours a day for subpar wages, because that assumption should have never been entertained in the first place.
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There are plenty of people willing to work for fair and equal pay. A better title to this video “framers would rather waste 300k of their own product, than pay Americans a livable wage.”
The rate of unemployment is below the natural rate of unemployment (5% for advanced economies). That argument just does not stack up. There are simply not enough workers to fill the jobs available and the US is creating an artificial labor shortage by preventing legal immigration from taking place and severely punishing illegal immigration. It’s crazy to watch a nation’s collective racism win out over its collective greed, but yet here we are…
@@jacobbwalters8133 lmao. You realize most people dont care anymore if they are called a racist. I know i don't care. We have no national identity. "Muh hard working rugged individualist" just boils down to "I got mine. Screw you."
Did you even watch the video? They earn per box which nets skilled workers a good salary (well beyond minimum wage). One of the owners said he could pay more but can't do it in the current situation.
If you're blaming strict immigration laws for your reduced labor force all you're really saying is you're not actually willing to pay reasonable wages for the work being done. Everyone telling me that reasonable labor rates will make the cost of mushrooms prohibitive is ignoring the fact that mushrooms are an unnecessary luxury. We don't need mushrooms.
@@WaCzup I recommend you take a class in economics or actually figure out how that works… in your head it sounds fantastic right? Show me it working in reality
That dude said "Just like our grandparents did, worked 2 jobs to make a better life for themselves" He should have just said he needs more immigrants to exploit.
The people who say this don’t seem to understand that it’s no longer “work hard for long hours to make a better life for yourself”, it’s “work hard for long hours to exist and keep doing that forever with no gains, stfu libtard everyone has to work”
"we're losing 50,000 to 100,000 dollars a month in revenue" so you're telling me you would rather lose $100,000 a month instead of paying a decent enough wage that would attract americans to work there?
Note this is revenue, not profit. I suspect the harvest cost would be greater than the revenue with increased wages. Someone threw out a figure of $1 per pound as bulk price at some point in the video, so what would the harvest cost of 100,000 pounds of hand picked mushrooms be with increased wages? I strongly suspect if there was more money to be made SOMEONE would be making it and putting everyone else out of business. Mushroom growing can get quite fancy, but in some less developed countries it's a basic industry with low initial investment. Any industry that's capable of being a backyard industry with low barrier to entry (poultry, mushrooms, vegetables, things like that) can only be done at scale if the larger process is highly efficient and overcomes inherently slim margins, otherwise some mom and pop operation would start up to fill the economic gap. Personally I think mushrooms SHOULD be more expensive and pickers SHOULD get paid more, but I doubt the problem here is all the operation managers being idiots.
@@nocapitals9833 If I have $50,000 to $100,000 worth of mushrooms sitting in a room, but it’d cost me $150,000 in expenses to harvest them all and bring them to market, how am I supposed to make that happen? Revenue is money collected from sales, profit is what you’re left with.
So people who rely on paying slave wages and have gotten away with appalling work conditions are upset because they either need to pay decent wages for a decent job or go out of business? I'm not feeling a lot of sympathy for them.
Yes. That is exactly what they are saying. They could literally hire 3 people for 30k a year (Which is very reasonable for this pay) and they'd suddenly be able to harvest said crop.
I like how they say the issue is our immigration problem lmaaaaaaoooo no just pay a proper wage and Americans would for sure do the job stop exploiting immigrants and than blaming others
That's not true. I work at Amazon warehouse and most of the workers are Latino or Asian. Probably 20% are are White + Black Americans. Americans don't want to get their hands dirty or work hard. Only first generation Americans or recent immigrants take those jobs. BTW Amazon pays $16hr to start and can go up to $22 unless you go into management.
@@MIKExMASSACREx that age group is roughly the same size as the 60-65 age group and importantly has a much lower workforce participation rate than the 60-65 group did when they were 25-30. Our workforce is certainly aging.
@@MIKExMASSACREx also, why are you so against the idea of immigration? Shouldn’t we want to allow immigrants from dangerous third would nations in Central America to lift themselves out of poverty? Or is the concern that they don’t look like the people already here? It seems people usually don’t have any issues with immigration from Scandinavia…
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Could have been a cool video about a town with a bunch of mushroom farms and their practices, instead it's trying to pin the "labor shortage" on immigration laws instead of the business owners who would rather destroy $50k-100k worth of mushrooms each month than pay that to workers to harvest them.
Most Americans would not prefer to work in a job setting like this. It's labor incentive and the working conditions are not that great. Nowadays it's hard to find people to work on Fast food industry, convincing Americans to work at a mushroom picking facility is far fetch.
@@ismail-fu6bs are people not deserving of a wage that allows them to live decently comfortable lives? I don't know why you think that anyone who wants the minimum wage raised or workers rights strengthened wants everyone to make 1000 dollars an hour either, it's more so a thing of wanting dignified and liveable wages in return for heavy time consuming dull labour.
@@ismail-fu6bs and why ? why should ppl pushing papers be the only one with a good pay ? hard manual labour should be rewarded just as high as a paper pusher is.. manual labour sould prob give a higer pay since you are destroying your body
Refreshing to see other comments expressing the same frustration i have with these appeals towards exploititive "farming" businessses. If your business needs a steady supply of cheap migrant labor to sustain itself, your business shouldnt exist.
@@m_d1905 And you must be clueless on how the farming industry was corrupted in the 70s and 80s. The "family farm" is dead now due to the forced industrializtion of our agriculture system. And before you ask how else are we going to feed America and have farmers make money; look up how much of our food is wasted and how much is exported every year. We need to get back to localism, not double and triple down on globalism.
@@21stcenturyguy25 The price has already been increasing, it's called inflation. Farms are also too far away from people to attract short term workers. I have a 1/4 hobby farm and I'd happily pick fruit or veggies seasonally if it was within 30min of my home. Unfortunately I live in the wheat belt and wheat is not labour intensive. We need to bring back small family owned farms in and around small towns like mine with an aging population so that there are opportunities outside of claiming welfare.
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As someone who has actually worked at a mushroom farm I can tell you why mushroom farms have problems with not having enough employees. They don't pay worth a shit that's why they rely on transient workers but when they pay pennies per mushroom picked it's far from being worth working at these farms for locals. They can blame the government all they want but the farmers are the ones who caused their own problems
What's the issue? Literally every company tries to spend as little as they can on personnel, especially for work that takes essentially no skill or training. Immigrants just happen to be the people who are more willing to take shitty jobs. If they don't want to, they don't have to.
Simple supply and demand is right… there is a demand for more laborers. There is also an ample supply of more laborers asking to come to do the work. We are stopping them from doing that. Why? It’s simple supply and demand right? Hint: the answer seems to have something to do with skin color and racism…
@@jacobbwalters8133 wrong, they want refugees to do their work for 400-600$ for a 12h labour work good sir that’s the problem bcuz no native/local man with his sanity in his rights will work for such a deal only desperate refugees for a job that are taught work likewise
@@jacobbwalters8133 ...no what you are saying is that there are humans willing to work as slaves and we need to allow them to be here so the owner can get his slaves.
@@ragstalrorikstar2150 are you serious?!? The amount you are suggesting ($600 a day) comes out to over $200,000 a year! Even if you assume that holidays and all weekends are taken off, that wage rate well over $150,000 a year! I am from a rural area (cost of living is much less expensive there) and that income will put someone solidly in the upper middle class. The farmers themselves likely are making less than $150,000 per year. Heck, if I could make over $150,000 in my hometown cutting mushrooms I would drop out of college right now! You either live in a very expensive city with a very high cost of living or have a very poor perception of the lifestyles most people live.
@@aryaprincess2479 not true at all. The farmers in this article are paying a living wage for the area they live ($15 per hour + housing). We are dealing with a nationwide labor shortage that cannot be solved simply by raising wages. If there aren’t enough people there aren’t enough people. No amount of money can change that. We have an aging working population that needs to be supplemented through immigration. By the way, I hope you realize that the alternative you are condemning these people to is often squalor, death, or complicity with a corrupt dictatorship or violent drug cartels which in some failed states are one and the same.
Wow. Imagine just straight up admitting that they are angry that they can’t exploit immigrants 😂 They are saying it like the mushrooms will rot instantly in the hands of someone who isn’t an immigrant
“Exploit” there is always someone willing to do it cheaper every country and nation has done it. Dont act like a countries hands are clean. Its obviously sounds like you dont know how economics works…
If healthcare and childcare was socialized and paid for by the ultra-wealthy youd literally have tons of people who would be willing to work for those wages its just that minimum wages arent a living wage so workers need jobs that will pay the bills. Especially when youre doing literal physical labor.
@@mr.cc97 yeah. but these immigrant paid by pennies. i remember i used to got paid 3$/hour when minimum wave was 8$/hr. well i was under 18 and need money to buy school stuff.....so no choice
and likely you would be forced to raise prices to give them meaningful wage increases, and with the ability to import from poorer nations you will get people buying the cheaper items and further push these companies to the brink
Get rid of welfare, EBT, Section 8, paying people to have kids, etc and people will work. If the progressives have their way nobody will work and everyone will rely upon the government for everything.
@@kkirschkk so basically what will happen is capitalism? If you cant produce things more efficiently than other countries then you should just stop producing it alr and start making something else that you're more efficient at. Not to mention that he could increase the wages without incurring extra cost/raise price to a certain level as he alr wasted tons of products and those waste are already factored in the current price.
@@pom044 Get rid of minimum wage as well. Let employers pay at cents on the dollar, and abolish rent control so Landlords can charge at NYC level rents in small towns
@@djdjdjshhsuss3941 He is loosing 50-100k in income, likely a lot less in costs [even assuming that is what he is paying out of pocket he would only be able to give everyone a 50 to 100 cent raise based on that, not a huge amount]. Also sure, but then all of those people would be out of a job and your comment about raising wages will be mute. A wage is better in every case than not having any wages.
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@@mr-black-sheep they said they lose 100k a month in product due to labor shortage. It's flat out bullshit that paying a living wage has to increase retail costs.
@monster x monster mushrooms won’t keep long enough to survive shipping. If consumers think mushroom farm workers should be paid more, they should be willing to pay more for mushrooms so the farmers can actually afford to pay their workers better.
@@DimitrisSfounis It’s not trickle down economics. It’s a well known phenomenon when unemployment is very low, and there’s high demand for workers. Employers have to compete for workers, so they have to offer better pay and benefits. That requires raising prices in order to stay in the black, which drives inflation. It’s demand side economics. Trickle down is supply side economics, the delusional belief that if you just cut taxes on the rich and corporations, they’ll spend more and pay better because they can. In reality, if there’s no incentive to spend the money on workers, like if there’s not fierce competition for workers, they’ll just spend it on themselves or hoard it. Their cups don’t run over. They just get bigger.
@monster x monsterit’s not the flight that takes a week. It’s the entire journey. Overnight shipping from China, including going through customs, would be astronomically expensive for just mushrooms. There’s a reason we grow them here, just like many other crops. The most reasonable solution is to raise the price of mushrooms to allow the farms to make a profit while paying enough to retain workers.
Hard to believe they think loosing 50 to 100k a month. But can't for the life of them pay a good wage for pickers... stupid is stupid does. both loose.
The pay is directly tied to performance (since they pay per box picked). A worker good enough to barely make minimum wage is not going to be very useful for them. They need skilled workers that work fast. In most jobs, working hard is basically worthless.
I remember working as a mushroom picker in my early teens. I love it, it's light and actually satisfying. And the temperature is bearable. The only problem is that we get paid by the kg, that isn't so bad, I was a fast worker but there aren't always good mushrooms to pick. This means, beginning of the week, you get a good batch, so you make a good hourly rate, on some days, you get shity batch, and you end up making a few dollars an hour, no matter how fast you work. Sometimes, you rock up to work, and finishes within a few hours, imagine waking up early, going to work, and making only enough for the petrol. No matter how much I enjoy picking mushrooms, it wasn't a career I want to spend the rest of my life doing. Maybe I work picking mushrooms when I'm rich and retired and doing it for fun. My experience was in South Australia, I don't know how other countries paid their employees. (PS Mushroom picking takes skill and practice, new people will be very slow and take time to learn it.)
This video is ridiculous. It can be copy paste with any business that's complaining about "a labor shortage". These businesses just don't want to pay the labor appropriately
@@UnflappedAcorn the complainers are probably the same people who have either no clue about farming, or never worked in a field. Very few Americans want to get dirty. They want the easy job with the high pay. I grew up in the new England, working in fields in the summer when school was out. We lived in a small farming community, everyone worked. Today, too many lazy people.
It's the same here in Denmark, the companies screaming for workers: "We NEED to allow more low wage immigrants workers into the country, or we will DIE!!" although we have about 150.000 unemployed people on social welfare, and when asking the companies why do you not hire some of them?! They're like "Nah, we do not want them, we want cheap low wage workers from third world countries!"
Same in Sweden. My moms bf gets paid 13k kr. That's chum change. Laughable. And his boss wonders why nobody wants to work outdoors in the blazing sun/ cold rainy days of autumn for 10h a day tending to pine trees.. and yes we are immigrants and the boss is native swede.
But these jobless people in your country also need to realize that "most of them" are jobless for a reason -- un-skilled, un-educated for specific industries. They should demand less wages and get the jobs themselves rather than the companies hiring immigrants.
Put out a notice that you are going to throw away the mushrooms and that volunteers can come and pick the ones they want for free before you toss them. Contact local food pantries, church groups, aid organizations, youth groups, etc. You might end up with hundreds of volunteers. What difference does it make if you lose the mushrooms by trashing them or feeding the poor? And if all you can see is dollar signs, then consider the tax write off from donations vs waste.
Exploitation 101, would rather let the food go to waste than hire labourers who actually want to be paid what they are worth. If you don't wanna pay your workers a proper living wage and would rather overwork them with 10 hour days, you're not a good business man. There are millions of unemployed people who would jump for a job that pays alright but obviously, this guy doesn't pay well which is why he can't find workers because he's seeking immigrants to underpay.
@@georgehill3087 they said they lose 50-100k a month in product. Even a 60k a year salary is 5k a month. Tons of room to hire if your loosing 600-1.2 mill a year
when your business is struggling because its based on exploiting workers, I have a hard time working up any sympathy for the business when the workers get tired of it.
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Yea we should pay them the same amount as doctors! F doctors that have to study non stop for years and get in debt just get where they are! F their effort and sacrifice! Lol communism we should be like china! 🤣🤣 people can’t be any dumber.
@@vivianscircle the cost of living in rural Pennsylvania is very low. That, coupled with the fact that the farmers are also offering housing means that the workers are already making a living wage. The issue is a labor supply issue artificially created by our semi-racist immigration policies.
This video is shameful and I'm happy that most people have seen through it. Honestly I wouldn't mind being a mushroom picker if the wage was fair. One of the workers said that they used to be able to go home by the afternoon, but they now have to work 12-hr shifts because it seems everyone has seen through the low wage bs.
I don't live in north America , yet our mushroom farmers , cannot employ foreign workers . Our minimum wage is $21.50 per hour - less 45¢ on the dollar , in exchange rates , yet none of our 'shroom farmers are destroying crops , and the prices in the shops reflect this . I've not seen any 'shroom farmers here , advertise for pickers since the commercial farming of mushrooms became reality , in the 1970's - before that if you wanted mushrooms , you had to go fearal , to get a feed and forage them .
Well i would assume that mushrooms weren’t that popular before and the pickers only had quota that had to do. Sinse there wasn’t as much demand for it the prices were higher and they were able to pay a better salary. Now that there is competition in the mushroom industry the profit margines have fallen and they can’t afford to pay the same nowadays. If you wanna pay alot more for mushrooms there is almost nothing the farmers can do.
@@davidarundel6187 21.20 NZD is 14.55 USD and that is about ehat the pickers are making. I don’t know about the consumption of mushrooms in New Zealand but it seems that there is more product than demand. And may i ask you how do you know that the mushroom farmers don’t destroy unsellable products they couldn’t harvest in time? Are you in the industry or what’s your source?
Okay so they pay employees more, but are you willing to pay more for mushrooms? It's us, the consumer to blame (and yes the industry) for poor work environments. Just putting some perspective that it's not just greed from producers. It's a defect of our industry and our buying power influences, maybe if we weren't so picky as purchasers we can make that real progressive changes.
// This video is shameful I've noticed that a LOT of Business Insider videos like their series "So Expensive," basically consist of them putting lipstick on numerous overpriced pigs. That series in particular often consists of marketing pitches: people in the industry arguing why something should be ridiculously more expensive than it's worth.
I enjoy most stories that you do, but this is the worst story you have done. This has nothing to do with immigration laws, and everything to do with, not just paying a thrivable wage, but even a livable wage. People are begging for a bottom of the barrel livable wage, these places should be paying a thrivable wage. People deserve to thrive, not just survive. Also saying "the customer doesn't like that" is a flat out lie, it's the supermarkets that don't like it.
Let's not forget the blatant "We used to employ immigrants who were willing to work 2 jobs in order to get ahead and now we can't find people willing to do that."
$50k to $100k a month isn’t enough money to hire locals? 🤔 Serious question how much does a local employee cost? Is it because the benefits would cost too much to hire Americans? Are gig workers still allowed there?
Americans can be legally paid only minimum wage, no benefits, if they're part-time. $50k a year would be enough to hire at least one full-time worker or two part-time ones. Gig workers are definitely allowed, but they wouldn't be fast/skilled enough and they're entitled to the same minmum wage as all other types of workers. Pay people a living wage and the labor shortage would disappear, especially for a job like mushroom picker, because it's indoors with relatively cool temps, year-round rather than seasonal, requires minimal training, and at least from the video, doesn't look overly dangerous (beyond the risk of cutting yourself.)
@@owencrawley7854 Of course part-time workers can be paid more than minimum wage. Where did I say they couldn't? Minimum wage is the minimum people can be paid, legally. Not the maximum.
Most Americans would not prefer to work in a job setting like this. It's labor incentive and the working conditions are not that great. Nowadays it's hard to find people to work on Fast food industry, convincing Americans to work at a mushroom picking facility is far fetch.
@@moosedoggy1631 I'd rather pick mushrooms than work with the public. Stg if this place was close enough to me and I knew I would only have 8 hour shifts I'd do it.
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When workers asked for better wages and working conditions, they were fired. It's not that they cannot find workers. They cannot find 'cheap' workers. If they work on thin margins, then there are too many mushroom farmers.
@@Brindlebrother "lol" the company don't decide the prices, the customer is. Are you dense? The prices are what customers are willing to pay. Customers tends to buy the cheapest alternative, why? Because it's cheapest, the don't care for the most part where it comes from.
I saw this and got excited thinking of a new job opportunity. My local mushroom farm only pays $10/hour... I can't afford to live on such meager wages. I think the only reason they think they need immigrants, is because they're likely the only ones that would take that small amount of money. Which breaks my heart because THEY deserve more too
no we deserve an enforced border and kicking people out who come to mooch. 10 dollars an hour is more then the majority of people around the world make in a week of back breaking labor. stop drinking soy lattes and you would have money
I think its based on deserve vs need. Ive known migrants and ive even known some who were illegal. For some reason their cost of living is much lower. Mostly because they dont file taxes, they dont buy things many people do now like insurances which can actually save alot of money. So the idea from some of these business to "justify" their bullshit is hey if they need less money, and will take less money, we can do that. It allows them to get work when they may have trouble otherwise finding it. Its a win win on a small scale, but in the big scheme of things it is exploitive and shitty.
That pay in my country would equate to a seniour developers salary rivalling that of doctors. 10 x ( Current rate 52 php ) = 4,160 php 590 Php is our legal lowest wage yet in the US it's 7x more If anyone is hiring hit me up. We're prepared to sell our souls for those blood money
$10/hr sounds fair to me. If mushroom pickers deserve to get paid more then other professions (aka the ones where people actually go to school and get certification for) deserve to get paid more too.
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Okay, b.s. to both "business insider" and b.s. to the endless migrant types. As far as picking mushrooms go, there are plenty of people who would do it. There are more ways than 1 to cut mushrooms. Most food growers get subsidies to start businesses, which guarantee their supply chain to keep competition out. It was the first subsidy program in America, which led to the Dust Bowl. That's what this is really about. It's all about the subsidies. Business Insider doesn't give a sh.t about mushrooms.
Kaolin Mushroom Farms posted a harvester job in Kennett Square on Indeed and it only pays $30k/year. Could you imagine doing such physically demanding work, 5 to 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, in hazardous conditions, and getting paid about $500/week? There isn't a labor shortage, there's a wage shortage!
@@ICEWALRUS ok, but just the rent for a "farm" and "running" is six digits month. Thats not on the poor spectrum when you have a nice line of credit, and hard holding such as land, and machinery. So. . .boohoo 😢
@@manuelrojas6912 This guy I knew told me his parents own a lumber yard. Old money... K-10 private school...managed to flunk it so public school it is. All his 3 sisters went private. Huge ass home. Told me they hire "illegal immigrants" and that his dad says their the only ones who will want to work. Dad made him work there after being a college dropout....I made more than him doing retail selling fancy clothes to ppl while in college. I was shook...but after letting it sink in not surprised
All I can see as the issue is the the farmers are not willing to raise the wages. Why not pay them more like $25 an hour and give them full benefits which includes a decent pension? I suspect that if the farmers did that they would get the workers.
"But when the Puerto Ricans asked for higher wages they fired them." So they would rather destroy 100k worth of product every month than pay an American worker $25hr to harvest that 100k. 🤔
I'm pretty sure it would cost a lot more than a few workers @ $25/hr to harvest $100k of product, not to mention having to raise the wages of the existing workers. I'm also pretty sure you're not factoring in the workers who also need to package and ship all that extra product.
Whats so crazy is that those puerto ricans don't even need visas and all the extra paper work. Were happy to do it as long as it helped stabilize their family into the middle class.....but noooooo. They went for more cheap labor with less worker rights and now cant fulfill the demand of that and we should feel bad. Instead of looking within their answer is too look out. Crazy!
The daughter and father who own a farm, she said it hurts her knowing there isn't anywhere for the mushrooms to go. Well, the ones that are opened and apparently customers don't like the look of, those ones could go to a local food bank or similar program because most of the fruits and vegetables people receive for them are already rotten and moldy. Having "opened" mushrooms that are still safe to eat would be very welcomed.
@@hydroaegis6658 Usually the food bank will go and pick up the food and take it away for you. They don't pay you, seeing the kind of organization they are, it's sort of like "here, let me take your "garbage" away for you. I don't pay you and you don't pay me". Rather than using steam to destroy the mushrooms (which does cost money), they could dump them into boxes or bags and the volunteers at the food bank will deal with the rest. It will not cost any more money, the people working at the farms still need to take the mushrooms that were steamed and dump them somewhere, so..... yeah, no extra work involved. For instance, some grocery stores will give the food bank the fruit and vegetables they were going to throw away. The food bank comes and picks up the food. In the end, there is less garbage going to the landfills from the grocery store and more food going to those in need.
@@trinomial-nomenclature most grocery stores don’t do that anymore because of liability issues. Too many people sued after getting sick from donations.
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In France mushrooms are sold with the "root" on they do not cut them before they are sold. Letting the customer cut the root of would speed up harvesting. In the UK mushrooms are sold cut.
That's right! While the weight is increased by the presence of the root, I do think it keeps the shrooms fresher. I don't mind cutting my roots at all - I do it when I rinse them.
@@pavelow235 Because restaurant owners need to make Ferrari payments. Naw, kidding aside. Food served now is also not the same as what you’d find 20-30 years ago. Where everyone ate at the same diner. Always ordering French toast or steak and eggs for 3.99 and 50 cent coffee. Everything is artisanal now, vegan, gluten free, organic, locally sourced, etc. That food costs money, and people rather pay it.
@@pavelow235 Because the upper Midwest experienced a drought (that's where the food comes from) and a logistical bottleneck is affecting everywhere on the planet.
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Capitalism relies on the free flow of labor. The US has artificially cut off the supply of labor by lowering immigration limits to historic lows. Racism is breaking capitalism.
U.S. has plenty of labor. But, people also have brains. If accepting a job means I can either pay rent or eat, but not both, my time is better spent looking for a higher paying job.
@@jacobbwalters8133 Capitalism doesn't care about your skin colour. Using low cheap hands only makes the owner richer. The correct usage of free market would have solved it.
@@jacobbwalters8133 you are wrong, if those migrants live in the same place they work they simply can't afford to live there. Nobody can live on minimum wage.
@@RCAVDH what the heck are you talking about? Housing is a perk often associated with employment. Many tech firms in the Bay Area provide housing for employees, Universities often provide housing for traveling professors and almost always the university presidents, governments provide housing for executives, etc. Why should this perk not be expanded to include low income workers? Why should they be excluded from receiving a benefit offered to upper class workers?
Why stop there, Why not make it $99/ hour + spa memberships? I would be REALLY surprised if consumers buy any more mushrooms to eat with a box costing $200 dollars after that
@@pavelow235 Why is there always some person who takes a liveable wage of 20-30/hr and equates it to rolling around in hookers and blow, lighting cigars with rolled up bills?
MIT said a Living Wage (2021) is $16.34 an hour. This guy is paying by the box, and saying "most" workers earn $14 an hour - ie. most workers are earning below the living wage. Like other commenters, I'm wondering how they are coming to the conclusion that losing $45k a week is cheaper than increasing their wages. In fact - let's do some maths: He claims his average wage is $14 an hour. They're losing $45k a week - not sure if this is profit or revenue, so let's call it revenue for now. As a general rule of thumb, labour costs typically consume 1/3 of revenue*. So $15k of that $45k turnover would be spent on labour. $15k divided by $14 = 1070 hours of labour, 40 working hours in a week = 27 full time employees. So $45,000 of mushrooms requires (roughly) 1070 hours a week of labour. Revenue - Labour Cost = $30,000 He increases his average wage to $20 an hour. We've worked out above that $45k worth of mushrooms requires 1070 hours of labour: 1070 x $20 = $21,400 = paying $20 an hour he's still coming out with $23,600 after labour costs. Unless his business model sucks, there's still room for paying all over expenses + profit in there. *a very rough guide on business expenditure is in thirds - 1/3 cost is labour, 1/3 cost is materials/overheads, 1/3 is profit
They can’t find employees because during the pandemic or in the past the business has probably treated there workers poorly. If people liked there job they wouldn’t have a issue. Poor management if you ask me.
If he's forced to destroy that much mushroom product then, why not offer a straight $20 salary with less hours to more people who can be placed on more shifts? And its 2021, why are we still paying people per box? Also I'm interested to know how many times do they harvest from a single bed of mushrooms and if they are sterilizing the bed after one or two harvests or not, because that sounds strange if the nutrients haven't depleted from the substrate the mycelium should still be alive. And should still be able to produce again, and the mushrooms should be releasing spores to inoculate the substrate again. I'm very curious.
As to paying per box. I would rather everything be paid per box or per task so the hard working and efficient get the benefit instead of breeding laziness. A lot of office workers literally just sit there doing as little as possible and just rake in the money
Per box. They pay that way to cheat people out of money. Heat rises and energy levels drop over time. They must complete full shifts, but it's only lucrative at the beginning and dangerous towards the end, especially if your energy drops after say, 8 er 9 hrs.
The bigger question is how much are they paying their workers and offering new workers. If they are paying anything less than a living wage, then they don't deserve to be in business. Yes prices will go up, but that also means demand will stabilize to a demand that supports the wages of an efficient well managed company. Also, their solution of "just let us get lower cost labor " is unsustainable.
At no point in the video did I see them mention 'raise the per unit price of the mushrooms they sell.' Seems like an simple solution to this entire issue, and then they'd actually be able to pay their workers minimally acceptable wages.
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I have picked up these mushrooms and delivered them from Phillips in Kennet square and everyone there are the nicest people you’ll ever meet. From pickers to managers. FYI…. One of the most picturesque towns ever. So cute
Aww, why dont every business owner in US just pays a fair wage to employees rather than cry for cheap labor exporting from other countries. Poor business owners, right...?
because you won't buy a package of mushrooms for $100 dollars a box, therefore everybody in the mushroom industry runs out of business. Your business sense is pretty low.
@@pavelow235 Oh so you are saying buyers are the reason the workers are paid low wages...?! Nice. The mushroom box will cost $100, coz the CEOs n board members need that fat paycheck.
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I would gladly work for you. I'm unemployed, I have a huge passion for mushrooms. Soooooo delicious. Too bad they are destroyed instead of donated. I understand, nobody to pick them. Agree to pay a livable wage. I am a 45 year old white woman in America. A 16 year veteran of the US Army. Yet, I have nothing. Never married, no kids, cancer survivor. What's out there for people like me to look forward to?
Sounds like people just don't want to give up some of their income to pay higher wages and attract more workers like basically every other industry in the world except technology
Well... If you notice that the amount of demand for your product at a specific price is so high that you can't keep up with production then the obvious solution will be to raise the price of the mushrooms which will in turn lower demand to a point where it is manageable with your current workers whilst increasing your profit margins to be able to increase their wages.
36 seconds in. Thats all I needed to see. I'm a citizen in my country and the pay/exploitation was bad as a farm hand. My immigrant coworkers were paid even less than me, all the while our boss spent money on expensive hobbies and cars. The money is there most of the time, farmers just don't want to pay proper wages.
Strict immigration laws? US is essentially an open border at the time of this video. Trouble is gov is doing so many handouts that no one wants to work.
"I'd rather loose 50-100k per month rather than paying employees a better wage and giving them good working conditions" What about hiring American workers? How are importing migrants and treating them like shit the solution?
An 8oz container of white button mushrooms, at standard grocery stores, costs $1.99 to $2.19 here in Southern California. This video says the wholesale price that growers sell it for is $0.35 lbs (or $0.17 per 8oz). So what is being bought wholesale for 17.5 cents is being retailed for $2. Thats some kind of mark-up in the middle!
The farming company takes their cut, then the transportation company bringing them to the store takes their cut, before the store also takes their cut.
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No such thing as a labor shortage. Just exploiters' crocodile tears refusing to pay higher wages. Remember, Labor Creates All Wealth. All Profit is Theft From Workers. Divided We Beg. United We Bargain. Fight like heck for the fruits of our labor. Make the bosses cry!
So if you put up all the money time and materials to build a profitable bussness and create jobs for people if you pay yourself it’s theft? You wouldn’t have a buyer for your labor without the owners labor of creating a business in the first place commie!
@@Jason.Goldstriker The slave wouldn't have these Christian learnings without the Master's loving whip. The native wouldn't have this generous residential school without the Settler Colonists. The serf wouldn't have this field to toil without his Lord's benevolence. The child laborer wouldn't have this coal mine without the Owner's brilliant entrepreneurship. Labor created all wealth. Labor continues to create all wealth. The profit system is organized theft and is responsible for the Sixth Extinction. You can't drink money🚰 and there aren't any jobs on a dead planet. It's time for workers to own and govern all the factories especially factory farms. The factory owners are redundant parasites.
@@Jason.Goldstriker Also tiny lil beseiged, blockaded Cuba disproves your point. There's always plenty of work to do for humans. We don't need exploiters to own anything. Workers can govern ourselves just fine thank you very much
I love watching these insider business videos because a lot of them straight up just admit that businesses exploit their labor or the thing they sell is inflated in price due to greed and newer cheaper methods drive it down.
Industries such as these should consider becoming collectives. I mean worker owned. That would make workers want to develop a future in the industry because they are now business owners but this also requires bigger thinking from the current owners who want low paid workers. If those workers were also paid with a share of the business that might attract more people. Something similar happens in startups where employees are awarded in stocks that they could in theory cash-in after 4 years of employment. These companies want to change the law to suit them so they can remain as owners.
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How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
I don't understand: he said he is losing 50k to 100k $ a month because he has to destroy so many mushrooms because there are not enough workers, but at the same time he is unable to pay the workers better wages to get more workers? wouldn't it be cheaper to pay more workers than to destroy mushrooms? also, if he knows he has only enough workers to pick 8 out of 10 houses, why than does he keep 10 full houses? is he unable to calculate or plan workforce? just seems like this dude is a bad business man.
Demand can spike at any moment, but I agree.
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@@Demopans5990 he already has high demand. Planting more rooms with insufficient pickers will only create a loss.
It’s just political advocacy. They’re trying to get the government to allow more migrant workers than pay a better wage.
As a student I would have enjoyed picking mushrooms better than doing fast food, but you need part time hours. Also older workers semi-retired workers need part time hours. Farmers are spoiled by past workforce access to full-time slaves. You need to get creative.
Looks like a nice part time job for high schoolers
@@pineapplesauce7499 In farming you work harvest and it's not part time. You only have so long to get the product picked before it spoils.
@@m_d1905 True. However this looks like it is mostly done indoors. As long as they have a supply of compost they can have perpetual harvests year around.
@@m_d1905 wrong. Mushroom farming is highly timed for continuous production. They could definitely have part time workers... but wages are not comparable with other industries
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How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
There are plenty of people willing to work for fair and equal pay. A better title to this video “framers would rather waste 300k of their own product, than pay Americans a livable wage.”
The rate of unemployment is below the natural rate of unemployment (5% for advanced economies). That argument just does not stack up. There are simply not enough workers to fill the jobs available and the US is creating an artificial labor shortage by preventing legal immigration from taking place and severely punishing illegal immigration. It’s crazy to watch a nation’s collective racism win out over its collective greed, but yet here we are…
@@jacobbwalters8133 lmao. You realize most people dont care anymore if they are called a racist. I know i don't care. We have no national identity. "Muh hard working rugged individualist" just boils down to "I got mine. Screw you."
@@ryanjensen8883 lol i think youre wrong considering how many racists are routinely offended by being called out on it.
When they say they have razor-thin profit margins, they are not lying. Farmers aren't rich.
@@ryanjensen8883 I don't know why a racist would care if they were called one unless it's obfuscation
So America economy depends on immigrants that will accept a low salary
Scummy businesses that don't deserve your business
Not just low, below the legal minimum wage!
Yup
@@eb6195 i mean better than nothing i suppose as a citizens of poor nation
Did you even watch the video? They earn per box which nets skilled workers a good salary (well beyond minimum wage). One of the owners said he could pay more but can't do it in the current situation.
If you're blaming strict immigration laws for your reduced labor force all you're really saying is you're not actually willing to pay reasonable wages for the work being done.
Everyone telling me that reasonable labor rates will make the cost of mushrooms prohibitive is ignoring the fact that mushrooms are an unnecessary luxury. We don't need mushrooms.
Because they cant afford to pay the higher wages, cheap labor = more profit, more profit = more wages.
@@senatorarmstrong6886 but he can afford them as he is losing 50-100k per month = many wages for people if he actually wanted people in. What a BS
@@WaCzup I recommend you take a class in economics or actually figure out how that works… in your head it sounds fantastic right? Show me it working in reality
And consumers are not willing to pay more either
@@banagan4604 and maybe we don’t need mushrooms
That dude said "Just like our grandparents did, worked 2 jobs to make a better life for themselves"
He should have just said he needs more immigrants to exploit.
The people who say this don’t seem to understand that it’s no longer “work hard for long hours to make a better life for yourself”, it’s “work hard for long hours to exist and keep doing that forever with no gains, stfu libtard everyone has to work”
@@katyalupochev9589 ah yes, spending your whole life as a modern slave is what you want then go ahead. We dont want that
@monster x monster most of the logs come from china already, causing lots of problems, mushroom spoil to fast for ocean shipping
@@duckychanduckychan5155 what should we do then? We wont have food in the table if we don't work
The immigrants aren't exploited americans just don't want to work
The same here in Germany for many jobs, instead of paying them better they bring people from other countrys.
Well that's is why they send jobs in other countries instead of yours
It's called social dumping and it's a complex issue, and it's very real
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They dont pay enough because People wont pay the right price for product
@@mr-black-sheep Higher price, lower demand. I see no problem
"we're losing 50,000 to 100,000 dollars a month in revenue" so you're telling me you would rather lose $100,000 a month instead of paying a decent enough wage that would attract americans to work there?
Note this is revenue, not profit. I suspect the harvest cost would be greater than the revenue with increased wages. Someone threw out a figure of $1 per pound as bulk price at some point in the video, so what would the harvest cost of 100,000 pounds of hand picked mushrooms be with increased wages? I strongly suspect if there was more money to be made SOMEONE would be making it and putting everyone else out of business. Mushroom growing can get quite fancy, but in some less developed countries it's a basic industry with low initial investment. Any industry that's capable of being a backyard industry with low barrier to entry (poultry, mushrooms, vegetables, things like that) can only be done at scale if the larger process is highly efficient and overcomes inherently slim margins, otherwise some mom and pop operation would start up to fill the economic gap. Personally I think mushrooms SHOULD be more expensive and pickers SHOULD get paid more, but I doubt the problem here is all the operation managers being idiots.
REVENUE. Not actual discretionary profit. This comment section makes me want to bash my head against a wall.
@@TheSterlingArcher16 what's the difference?
@@nocapitals9833 If I have $50,000 to $100,000 worth of mushrooms sitting in a room, but it’d cost me $150,000 in expenses to harvest them all and bring them to market, how am I supposed to make that happen? Revenue is money collected from sales, profit is what you’re left with.
@@TheSterlingArcher16 i see what you mean, thanks.
So people who rely on paying slave wages and have gotten away with appalling work conditions are upset because they either need to pay decent wages for a decent job or go out of business? I'm not feeling a lot of sympathy for them.
No such thing as slave wages in a free economy.
@@agisler87 Then you have had a sheltered life.
@@davidr9883 paying double minimum wage for PA ($14/hr) and some instances getting housing and rides to work is “slave wages” ??
@@davidr9883 No you just don't know what the word slave means.
Appalling conditions? Do you have any clue how mushroom actually grow or do you just like up sound uneducated?
So instead of paying more for your workers which naturally attracts more labor you rather lose 50-100K a month and waste a lot of good food?
@@msdadsfsx So you rather lose 50-100k per month. Got it
REVENUE, not profit. You think these people who have run the farms for decades are retards?
Yes. That is exactly what they are saying. They could literally hire 3 people for 30k a year (Which is very reasonable for this pay) and they'd suddenly be able to harvest said crop.
Its not really a waste, i bet its used as a base for more shrooms.
He is likely overestimating how much he loses for tax purposes.
I like how they say the issue is our immigration problem lmaaaaaaoooo no just pay a proper wage and Americans would for sure do the job stop exploiting immigrants and than blaming others
The US has an aging workforce. This IS a workforce problem.
That's not true. I work at Amazon warehouse and most of the workers are Latino or Asian. Probably 20% are are White + Black Americans. Americans don't want to get their hands dirty or work hard. Only first generation Americans or recent immigrants take those jobs. BTW Amazon pays $16hr to start and can go up to $22 unless you go into management.
@@jacobbwalters8133 no it doesn’t lmaaaaaaooooooo the largest age group in the country is 25-29
@@MIKExMASSACREx that age group is roughly the same size as the 60-65 age group and importantly has a much lower workforce participation rate than the 60-65 group did when they were 25-30. Our workforce is certainly aging.
@@MIKExMASSACREx also, why are you so against the idea of immigration? Shouldn’t we want to allow immigrants from dangerous third would nations in Central America to lift themselves out of poverty? Or is the concern that they don’t look like the people already here? It seems people usually don’t have any issues with immigration from Scandinavia…
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Could have been a cool video about a town with a bunch of mushroom farms and their practices, instead it's trying to pin the "labor shortage" on immigration laws instead of the business owners who would rather destroy $50k-100k worth of mushrooms each month than pay that to workers to harvest them.
Most Americans would not prefer to work in a job setting like this. It's labor incentive and the working conditions are not that great. Nowadays it's hard to find people to work on Fast food industry, convincing Americans to work at a mushroom picking facility is far fetch.
@@moosedoggy1631 yea because the wages are shit lol
@@Max-rn3eb you pick mushroom what do you expect? You want a grand/hour be a lawyer.
Long work hour and hard labor doesn't equel higher paycheck
@@ismail-fu6bs are people not deserving of a wage that allows them to live decently comfortable lives? I don't know why you think that anyone who wants the minimum wage raised or workers rights strengthened wants everyone to make 1000 dollars an hour either, it's more so a thing of wanting dignified and liveable wages in return for heavy time consuming dull labour.
@@ismail-fu6bs and why ? why should ppl pushing papers be the only one with a good pay ? hard manual labour should be rewarded just as high as a paper pusher is.. manual labour sould prob give a higer pay since you are destroying your body
Refreshing to see other comments expressing the same frustration i have with these appeals towards exploititive "farming" businessses. If your business needs a steady supply of cheap migrant labor to sustain itself, your business shouldnt exist.
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Guess you don't use to eat do you? If the farmers don't produce the food, city folk don't eat. Clueless on supply chain and economics in general.
@@m_d1905 And you must be clueless on how the farming industry was corrupted in the 70s and 80s. The "family farm" is dead now due to the forced industrializtion of our agriculture system. And before you ask how else are we going to feed America and have farmers make money; look up how much of our food is wasted and how much is exported every year. We need to get back to localism, not double and triple down on globalism.
Australia just introduced laws that produce pickers must receive minimum wage by law. Waiting to see if the price of fruit and veg go up soon.
@@21stcenturyguy25 The price has already been increasing, it's called inflation. Farms are also too far away from people to attract short term workers. I have a 1/4 hobby farm and I'd happily pick fruit or veggies seasonally if it was within 30min of my home. Unfortunately I live in the wheat belt and wheat is not labour intensive. We need to bring back small family owned farms in and around small towns like mine with an aging population so that there are opportunities outside of claiming welfare.
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How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
right, because as everybody knows, mushrooms can only be harvested by poor immigrants from a different ethnicity as that of the landowner
? There was a Mexican land owner in the video. You SJWs refuse to use your eyes and ears
So are you willing to go work in a local agricultural business as a picker, planter or other physical labor? If not STFU.
@@m_d1905 if i get paid, yeah, why not.
But then again average americans do not know the luxury that is having actual labour rights :^)
@@troubleddreamer553 Yes and there was a black slave owner way back when, he's just copying what success looks like in the industry.
No its just "poor immigrants" are willing to do it for little pay
As someone who has actually worked at a mushroom farm I can tell you why mushroom farms have problems with not having enough employees. They don't pay worth a shit that's why they rely on transient workers but when they pay pennies per mushroom picked it's far from being worth working at these farms for locals. They can blame the government all they want but the farmers are the ones who caused their own problems
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What's the issue? Literally every company tries to spend as little as they can on personnel, especially for work that takes essentially no skill or training. Immigrants just happen to be the people who are more willing to take shitty jobs. If they don't want to, they don't have to.
Labor shortages don't exist. Salary shortages exist.
Simple supply/demand economics. Not enough people applying? Raise wages.
Simple supply and demand is right… there is a demand for more laborers. There is also an ample supply of more laborers asking to come to do the work. We are stopping them from doing that. Why? It’s simple supply and demand right?
Hint: the answer seems to have something to do with skin color and racism…
@@jacobbwalters8133 wrong, they want refugees to do their work for 400-600$ for a 12h labour work good sir that’s the problem bcuz no native/local man with his sanity in his rights will work for such a deal only desperate refugees for a job that are taught work likewise
@@jacobbwalters8133 ...no what you are saying is that there are humans willing to work as slaves and we need to allow them to be here so the owner can get his slaves.
@@ragstalrorikstar2150 are you serious?!? The amount you are suggesting ($600 a day) comes out to over $200,000 a year! Even if you assume that holidays and all weekends are taken off, that wage rate well over $150,000 a year! I am from a rural area (cost of living is much less expensive there) and that income will put someone solidly in the upper middle class. The farmers themselves likely are making less than $150,000 per year. Heck, if I could make over $150,000 in my hometown cutting mushrooms I would drop out of college right now! You either live in a very expensive city with a very high cost of living or have a very poor perception of the lifestyles most people live.
@@aryaprincess2479 not true at all. The farmers in this article are paying a living wage for the area they live ($15 per hour + housing). We are dealing with a nationwide labor shortage that cannot be solved simply by raising wages. If there aren’t enough people there aren’t enough people. No amount of money can change that. We have an aging working population that needs to be supplemented through immigration. By the way, I hope you realize that the alternative you are condemning these people to is often squalor, death, or complicity with a corrupt dictatorship or violent drug cartels which in some failed states are one and the same.
Wow. Imagine just straight up admitting that they are angry that they can’t exploit immigrants 😂 They are saying it like the mushrooms will rot instantly in the hands of someone who isn’t an immigrant
“Exploit” there is always someone willing to do it cheaper every country and nation has done it. Dont act like a countries hands are clean. Its obviously sounds like you dont know how economics works…
Lmao very true. If they paid a better wage and conditions then it would not be so hard
If healthcare and childcare was socialized and paid for by the ultra-wealthy youd literally have tons of people who would be willing to work for those wages its just that minimum wages arent a living wage so workers need jobs that will pay the bills. Especially when youre doing literal physical labor.
@@Xamy- pay more wage mean more expensive product, more expensive product mean people will not buy it😁
@@mr.cc97 yeah. but these immigrant paid by pennies. i remember i used to got paid 3$/hour when minimum wave was 8$/hr. well i was under 18 and need money to buy school stuff.....so no choice
labor shortages don't exist in countries with wage mechanisms.
cut higherup salaries and pay pickers more.
and likely you would be forced to raise prices to give them meaningful wage increases, and with the ability to import from poorer nations you will get people buying the cheaper items and further push these companies to the brink
Get rid of welfare, EBT, Section 8, paying people to have kids, etc and people will work. If the progressives have their way nobody will work and everyone will rely upon the government for everything.
@@kkirschkk so basically what will happen is capitalism? If you cant produce things more efficiently than other countries then you should just stop producing it alr and start making something else that you're more efficient at.
Not to mention that he could increase the wages without incurring extra cost/raise price to a certain level as he alr wasted tons of products and those waste are already factored in the current price.
@@pom044
Get rid of minimum wage as well. Let employers pay at cents on the dollar, and abolish rent control so Landlords can charge at NYC level rents in small towns
@@djdjdjshhsuss3941 He is loosing 50-100k in income, likely a lot less in costs [even assuming that is what he is paying out of pocket he would only be able to give everyone a 50 to 100 cent raise based on that, not a huge amount].
Also sure, but then all of those people would be out of a job and your comment about raising wages will be mute. A wage is better in every case than not having any wages.
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the solution is simple, increase the wage rate for pickers until your labor shortage is over.
Increase wage = price going up = less bought
@@mr-black-sheep they said they lose 100k a month in product due to labor shortage. It's flat out bullshit that paying a living wage has to increase retail costs.
Increase wage=increases price for item. Not many people will do agricultural work they think it's beneath them.
@@Quagigitymire they are losing 100k of profit, not from pocket. And they do pay good wage, 14$ an hour!
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Pretty clever propaganda. God help those who can't treat someone fairly and have to prey on the weak.
@monster x monster mushrooms won’t keep long enough to survive shipping. If consumers think mushroom farm workers should be paid more, they should be willing to pay more for mushrooms so the farmers can actually afford to pay their workers better.
@@evilsharkey8954 so that the farmers can pay themselves more** you mean. You still believe in that trickle-down bullshit?
@@DimitrisSfounis It’s not trickle down economics. It’s a well known phenomenon when unemployment is very low, and there’s high demand for workers. Employers have to compete for workers, so they have to offer better pay and benefits. That requires raising prices in order to stay in the black, which drives inflation. It’s demand side economics.
Trickle down is supply side economics, the delusional belief that if you just cut taxes on the rich and corporations, they’ll spend more and pay better because they can. In reality, if there’s no incentive to spend the money on workers, like if there’s not fierce competition for workers, they’ll just spend it on themselves or hoard it. Their cups don’t run over. They just get bigger.
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@monster x monsterit’s not the flight that takes a week. It’s the entire journey. Overnight shipping from China, including going through customs, would be astronomically expensive for just mushrooms. There’s a reason we grow them here, just like many other crops.
The most reasonable solution is to raise the price of mushrooms to allow the farms to make a profit while paying enough to retain workers.
Hard to believe they think loosing 50 to 100k a month. But can't for the life of them pay a good wage for pickers... stupid is stupid does. both loose.
Exactly.
It is likely limited by what they can get at market as well. Cutting back production might help, but it might be costs that exist regardless.
most bosses won't sacrifice their standard of living to pay the bottom rung of employees more.
The pay is directly tied to performance (since they pay per box picked). A worker good enough to barely make minimum wage is not going to be very useful for them. They need skilled workers that work fast. In most jobs, working hard is basically worthless.
He said losing Revenue, not that his expenses are exceeding his costs. He isn't making a "loss"
I remember working as a mushroom picker in my early teens. I love it, it's light and actually satisfying. And the temperature is bearable. The only problem is that we get paid by the kg, that isn't so bad, I was a fast worker but there aren't always good mushrooms to pick. This means, beginning of the week, you get a good batch, so you make a good hourly rate, on some days, you get shity batch, and you end up making a few dollars an hour, no matter how fast you work. Sometimes, you rock up to work, and finishes within a few hours, imagine waking up early, going to work, and making only enough for the petrol. No matter how much I enjoy picking mushrooms, it wasn't a career I want to spend the rest of my life doing. Maybe I work picking mushrooms when I'm rich and retired and doing it for fun. My experience was in South Australia, I don't know how other countries paid their employees. (PS Mushroom picking takes skill and practice, new people will be very slow and take time to learn it.)
Man. I didn't even think about the fact the yield can vary significantly. That's even more horrific
@@Dysiode The only horrific part is the owner doesn't pay an hourly wage instead.
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i love how ytheyd rather waste food than raise wages.
How about donating the excess to food banks, etc. Oh wait. That would work. Never mind. That can be a tax write off also.
@@charlottehanna790 did you even watch the video? There is no excess food, they literally can't pick the mushrooms fast enough.
Watch the video, he pays 14$/hour !!!
It's truly disgusting.
@@mr-black-sheep not enough
This video is ridiculous. It can be copy paste with any business that's complaining about "a labor shortage". These businesses just don't want to pay the labor appropriately
More like "cheap labor" shortage.
Now its a chicken game, see who's gonna blink first & give in. I hope the workers will prevail.
What if their margins are so slim that paying workers more means the company will go out of business?
@@UnflappedAcorn the complainers are probably the same people who have either no clue about farming, or never worked in a field. Very few Americans want to get dirty. They want the easy job with the high pay. I grew up in the new England, working in fields in the summer when school was out. We lived in a small farming community, everyone worked. Today, too many lazy people.
@@UnflappedAcorn So throwing out 50k in mushrooms a month is better then using eg. 25k in wage increases/new workers.
@@frode4416 the pay rate isn't the issue, lazy people are the issue.
It's the same here in Denmark, the companies screaming for workers: "We NEED to allow more low wage immigrants workers into the country, or we will DIE!!" although we have about 150.000 unemployed people on social welfare, and when asking the companies why do you not hire some of them?! They're like "Nah, we do not want them, we want cheap low wage workers from third world countries!"
Agreed. The world oligarchy wants us to believe this is our problem when they created it.
Same in Sweden. My moms bf gets paid 13k kr. That's chum change. Laughable. And his boss wonders why nobody wants to work outdoors in the blazing sun/ cold rainy days of autumn for 10h a day tending to pine trees.. and yes we are immigrants and the boss is native swede.
😂 Plenty of hobos love living off of the gov't and taxpayers.... They've no incentive to work
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But these jobless people in your country also need to realize that "most of them" are jobless for a reason -- un-skilled, un-educated for specific industries. They should demand less wages and get the jobs themselves rather than the companies hiring immigrants.
Put out a notice that you are going to throw away the mushrooms and that volunteers can come and pick the ones they want for free before you toss them. Contact local food pantries, church groups, aid organizations, youth groups, etc. You might end up with hundreds of volunteers. What difference does it make if you lose the mushrooms by trashing them or feeding the poor? And if all you can see is dollar signs, then consider the tax write off from donations vs waste.
What I’m hearing is farmers rather throw away $50,000/month than pay a little more to workers ….
*$40,000 a WEEK 8:58
Yet can't pay more
@@custos3249 sheesh 🤦♂️ idk how misheard that lol
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Yeah, they prefer to destroy millions worth of mushrooms rather than hiring 20 more pickers at $25/hr (more than twice the minimum wage).
Exploitation 101, would rather let the food go to waste than hire labourers who actually want to be paid what they are worth. If you don't wanna pay your workers a proper living wage and would rather overwork them with 10 hour days, you're not a good business man. There are millions of unemployed people who would jump for a job that pays alright but obviously, this guy doesn't pay well which is why he can't find workers because he's seeking immigrants to underpay.
It's cheaper to virtue signal than actually pay people.
Because they'll lose money if they hire more expensive workers? How is this difficult to understand?
@@georgehill3087 they said they lose 50-100k a month in product. Even a 60k a year salary is 5k a month. Tons of room to hire if your loosing 600-1.2 mill a year
They make 15-20 an hour how is that horrible? Wtf?
@@Flemdragon Honestly where are you guys getting this figure? They're quite obviously not being paid that
when your business is struggling because its based on exploiting workers, I have a hard time working up any sympathy for the business when the workers get tired of it.
They pay $15-20 an hour…. How is that bad? You probably make $10 or less. 😂
@@Flemdragon No they don't where TF did you get that?
@@tastethegay2791 It was in the video
@@mollieobrien6499 literally where I've watched this 2x over
@@tastethegay2791 They get paid per box, but the dude says at 08:39 that they earn $14/h on average. At max 20/h is earned by the fastest workers.
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Labour shortage?
How about... paying them a decent wage? Then you'll find workers you need.
What do you think is a decent wage (not a criticism, just curious).
@@Matt-fl8uy enough to pay your rent, bills and save for a rainy day. Basic everyday needs. Depending on the state/country/city you live in.
@@vivianscircle Seems reasonable, just wondering what that number would be.
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@@vivianscircle the cost of living in rural Pennsylvania is very low. That, coupled with the fact that the farmers are also offering housing means that the workers are already making a living wage. The issue is a labor supply issue artificially created by our semi-racist immigration policies.
This video is shameful and I'm happy that most people have seen through it. Honestly I wouldn't mind being a mushroom picker if the wage was fair. One of the workers said that they used to be able to go home by the afternoon, but they now have to work 12-hr shifts because it seems everyone has seen through the low wage bs.
I don't live in north America , yet our mushroom farmers , cannot employ foreign workers . Our minimum wage is $21.50 per hour - less 45¢ on the dollar , in exchange rates , yet none of our 'shroom farmers are destroying crops , and the prices in the shops reflect this . I've not seen any 'shroom farmers here , advertise for pickers since the commercial farming of mushrooms became reality , in the 1970's - before that if you wanted mushrooms , you had to go fearal , to get a feed and forage them .
Well i would assume that mushrooms weren’t that popular before and the pickers only had quota that had to do. Sinse there wasn’t as much demand for it the prices were higher and they were able to pay a better salary. Now that there is competition in the mushroom industry the profit margines have fallen and they can’t afford to pay the same nowadays. If you wanna pay alot more for mushrooms there is almost nothing the farmers can do.
@@davidarundel6187 21.20 NZD is 14.55 USD and that is about ehat the pickers are making. I don’t know about the consumption of mushrooms in New Zealand but it seems that there is more product than demand. And may i ask you how do you know that the mushroom farmers don’t destroy unsellable products they couldn’t harvest in time? Are you in the industry or what’s your source?
Okay so they pay employees more, but are you willing to pay more for mushrooms? It's us, the consumer to blame (and yes the industry) for poor work environments. Just putting some perspective that it's not just greed from producers. It's a defect of our industry and our buying power influences, maybe if we weren't so picky as purchasers we can make that real progressive changes.
// This video is shameful
I've noticed that a LOT of Business Insider videos like their series "So Expensive," basically consist of them putting lipstick on numerous overpriced pigs.
That series in particular often consists of marketing pitches: people in the industry arguing why something should be ridiculously more expensive than it's worth.
I enjoy most stories that you do, but this is the worst story you have done. This has nothing to do with immigration laws, and everything to do with, not just paying a thrivable wage, but even a livable wage. People are begging for a bottom of the barrel livable wage, these places should be paying a thrivable wage. People deserve to thrive, not just survive.
Also saying "the customer doesn't like that" is a flat out lie, it's the supermarkets that don't like it.
cheap things require cheap labor, that simple. nobody is going to pay a premium for common mushrooms, come back to reality please.
Let's not forget the blatant "We used to employ immigrants who were willing to work 2 jobs in order to get ahead and now we can't find people willing to do that."
There is no lack of workers, there is lack of proper wages, get your facts clear Insider Business.
$50k to $100k a month isn’t enough money to hire locals? 🤔 Serious question how much does a local employee cost? Is it because the benefits would cost too much to hire Americans? Are gig workers still allowed there?
Americans can be legally paid only minimum wage, no benefits, if they're part-time. $50k a year would be enough to hire at least one full-time worker or two part-time ones. Gig workers are definitely allowed, but they wouldn't be fast/skilled enough and they're entitled to the same minmum wage as all other types of workers. Pay people a living wage and the labor shortage would disappear, especially for a job like mushroom picker, because it's indoors with relatively cool temps, year-round rather than seasonal, requires minimal training, and at least from the video, doesn't look overly dangerous (beyond the risk of cutting yourself.)
@@redbloodedbutterfly I know for a fact that you can pay part-time workers more than minimum wage as I am myself and about 10 of my friends are
@@owencrawley7854 Of course part-time workers can be paid more than minimum wage. Where did I say they couldn't? Minimum wage is the minimum people can be paid, legally. Not the maximum.
Most Americans would not prefer to work in a job setting like this. It's labor incentive and the working conditions are not that great. Nowadays it's hard to find people to work on Fast food industry, convincing Americans to work at a mushroom picking facility is far fetch.
@@moosedoggy1631 I'd rather pick mushrooms than work with the public. Stg if this place was close enough to me and I knew I would only have 8 hour shifts I'd do it.
"Is losing $14 000 a week"... nobody makes that kind of salary *per week*. Boohooo small violin my margins are so thin I can't pay my workers boohooo
You really dont understand how economics works do you…
Are we supposed to feel bad for them lmao. I like how everyone is bashing them for exploiting workers
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Before claiming “labour shortage”, these businesses should be asked what do they pay and what are the benefits. 🙄
Journalists are so shit at actually challenging the subjects of their stories, it's just sad
Pay domestic workforce well and you'll solve your labor issue instead of relying on immigrants
If there’s an excess of production being wasted , scale back your business buddy you’re wasting money
Business tax write off!
When workers asked for better wages and working conditions, they were fired. It's not that they cannot find workers. They cannot find 'cheap' workers. If they work on thin margins, then there are too many mushroom farmers.
Here's a revolutionary idea: pay people more money, and they will WANT to do the job
Here's a revolutionary idea: How about paying higher prices for shit if you want the workers to get paid more? No? Then stop whining.
@@英語わかりません I would pay more. There, can I whine now?
@@thinhvo3904 Then why dont you instead of whining?
@@英語わかりません lol you're attacking him as if the customer directly controls the price. It would be the company's decision to raise prices, if it chose to
@@Brindlebrother "lol" the company don't decide the prices, the customer is. Are you dense? The prices are what customers are willing to pay. Customers tends to buy the cheapest alternative, why? Because it's cheapest, the don't care for the most part where it comes from.
I saw this and got excited thinking of a new job opportunity. My local mushroom farm only pays $10/hour... I can't afford to live on such meager wages.
I think the only reason they think they need immigrants, is because they're likely the only ones that would take that small amount of money. Which breaks my heart because THEY deserve more too
no we deserve an enforced border and kicking people out who come to mooch. 10 dollars an hour is more then the majority of people around the world make in a week of back breaking labor. stop drinking soy lattes and you would have money
I think its based on deserve vs need. Ive known migrants and ive even known some who were illegal. For some reason their cost of living is much lower. Mostly because they dont file taxes, they dont buy things many people do now like insurances which can actually save alot of money. So the idea from some of these business to "justify" their bullshit is hey if they need less money, and will take less money, we can do that. It allows them to get work when they may have trouble otherwise finding it. Its a win win on a small scale, but in the big scheme of things it is exploitive and shitty.
That pay in my country would equate to a seniour developers salary rivalling that of doctors. 10 x ( Current rate 52 php ) = 4,160 php
590 Php is our legal lowest wage yet in the US it's 7x more
If anyone is hiring hit me up. We're prepared to sell our souls for those blood money
$10/hr sounds fair to me. If mushroom pickers deserve to get paid more then other professions (aka the ones where people actually go to school and get certification for) deserve to get paid more too.
An industry shouldn't rely on immigrants to stay afloat, the farm owners should entice the local population to be employed there.
That would require people to be less prideful and do a dirty job. Too many want all the $$ for no actual work on their part.
@@m_d1905 yes
@Spin Lock he sounds like nepotistic upper management reject.
Dan. Population rather to live of welfare , food stamps, unemployment.....
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Okay, b.s. to both "business insider" and b.s. to the endless migrant types. As far as picking mushrooms go, there are plenty of people who would do it.
There are more ways than 1 to cut mushrooms.
Most food growers get subsidies to start businesses, which guarantee their supply chain to keep competition out. It was the first subsidy program in America, which led to the Dust Bowl. That's what this is really about. It's all about the subsidies. Business Insider doesn't give a sh.t about mushrooms.
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Kaolin Mushroom Farms posted a harvester job in Kennett Square on Indeed and it only pays $30k/year. Could you imagine doing such physically demanding work, 5 to 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, in hazardous conditions, and getting paid about $500/week? There isn't a labor shortage, there's a wage shortage!
I feel so sad for those multi millionaire farmers
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@@ICEWALRUS ok, but just the rent for a "farm" and "running" is six digits month. Thats not on the poor spectrum when you have a nice line of credit, and hard holding such as land, and machinery. So. . .boohoo 😢
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All I can see as the issue is the the farmers are not willing to raise the wages. Why not pay them more like $25 an hour and give them full benefits which includes a decent pension? I suspect that if the farmers did that they would get the workers.
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A six pack?
"But when the Puerto Ricans asked for higher wages they fired them."
So they would rather destroy 100k worth of product every month than pay an American worker $25hr to harvest that 100k. 🤔
I'm pretty sure it would cost a lot more than a few workers @ $25/hr to harvest $100k of product, not to mention having to raise the wages of the existing workers. I'm also pretty sure you're not factoring in the workers who also need to package and ship all that extra product.
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Whats so crazy is that those puerto ricans don't even need visas and all the extra paper work. Were happy to do it as long as it helped stabilize their family into the middle class.....but noooooo. They went for more cheap labor with less worker rights and now cant fulfill the demand of that and we should feel bad. Instead of looking within their answer is too look out. Crazy!
The daughter and father who own a farm, she said it hurts her knowing there isn't anywhere for the mushrooms to go. Well, the ones that are opened and apparently customers don't like the look of, those ones could go to a local food bank or similar program because most of the fruits and vegetables people receive for them are already rotten and moldy. Having "opened" mushrooms that are still safe to eat would be very welcomed.
Great will the food bank paid for the transportation, storage, and picking? If not it's cheaper to just destroy it.
@@hydroaegis6658 Usually the food bank will go and pick up the food and take it away for you. They don't pay you, seeing the kind of organization they are, it's sort of like "here, let me take your "garbage" away for you. I don't pay you and you don't pay me". Rather than using steam to destroy the mushrooms (which does cost money), they could dump them into boxes or bags and the volunteers at the food bank will deal with the rest. It will not cost any more money, the people working at the farms still need to take the mushrooms that were steamed and dump them somewhere, so..... yeah, no extra work involved.
For instance, some grocery stores will give the food bank the fruit and vegetables they were going to throw away. The food bank comes and picks up the food. In the end, there is less garbage going to the landfills from the grocery store and more food going to those in need.
people who go to the food banks know how to eat and cook mushrooms????
You might wanna watch the video again. They dont even have pickers for the mushrooms they sell and you want them to give away. Smh
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In France mushrooms are sold with the "root" on they do not cut them before they are sold. Letting the customer cut the root of would speed up harvesting.
In the UK mushrooms are sold cut.
That's right! While the weight is increased by the presence of the root, I do think it keeps the shrooms fresher. I don't mind cutting my roots at all - I do it when I rinse them.
Ok France.
That is actually a good idea, but the change would be hard. People are used to not seeing dirt.
@@toomanymarys7355 Imagine thinking that food grown from soil should have absolutely no soil on them xD
When someone says there is a labor shortage its the same as me saying saying i have a Ferrari shortage.
So than why is food getting more expensive if labor is in abundance?
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Because restaurant owners need to make Ferrari payments.
Naw, kidding aside. Food served now is also not the same as what you’d find 20-30 years ago. Where everyone ate at the same diner. Always ordering French toast or steak and eggs for 3.99 and 50 cent coffee.
Everything is artisanal now, vegan, gluten free, organic, locally sourced, etc. That food costs money, and people rather pay it.
@@pavelow235 are ferraris in "adundance"?
Decent labor businesses dont want or cant afford, just like we probably cant afford a Ferrari
@@pavelow235 Because the upper Midwest experienced a drought (that's where the food comes from) and a logistical bottleneck is affecting everywhere on the planet.
$14-$20 an hour for such manual labor.
That's without health insurance benefits at 12 hours a day in a dark damp environment.
@@ajgraham7085 Your health insurance is called OBAMA CARE......after financial aid, like $100 a month.
I used to live with about 1 $ day in a third wold country lol
@@otavioluis5774 $14-20+/hour in a small, cheap town isn't bad at all in the US. Jobs at the grocery pay probably$9-11 there.
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Capitalism 101: Pay more and shortage solved
Capitalism relies on the free flow of labor. The US has artificially cut off the supply of labor by lowering immigration limits to historic lows. Racism is breaking capitalism.
U.S. has plenty of labor. But, people also have brains. If accepting a job means I can either pay rent or eat, but not both, my time is better spent looking for a higher paying job.
@@jacobbwalters8133 Capitalism doesn't care about your skin colour. Using low cheap hands only makes the owner richer. The correct usage of free market would have solved it.
@@jacobbwalters8133 you are wrong, if those migrants live in the same place they work they simply can't afford to live there. Nobody can live on minimum wage.
@@RCAVDH what the heck are you talking about? Housing is a perk often associated with employment. Many tech firms in the Bay Area provide housing for employees, Universities often provide housing for traveling professors and almost always the university presidents, governments provide housing for executives, etc. Why should this perk not be expanded to include low income workers? Why should they be excluded from receiving a benefit offered to upper class workers?
let's get one thing straight. they are NOT losing money, they are losing potential revenue/profit
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@@littledudefromacrossthestr5755 wtf
@@theorangeheadedfella?
Have you tried offering $30/ hour + health insurance? I would be REALLY surprised if you still have a labor shortage after that
Why stop there, Why not make it $99/ hour + spa memberships? I would be REALLY surprised if consumers buy any more mushrooms to eat with a box costing $200 dollars after that
@@pavelow235 yeah, you're right, just throw out 168 million dollars a year instead of offering a living wage.
@@johnallenbailey1103 Why do people like you not grasp the difference between revenue and profit????? Good grief.
@@toomanymarys7355 you can't be talking to me...
@@pavelow235 Why is there always some person who takes a liveable wage of 20-30/hr and equates it to rolling around in hookers and blow, lighting cigars with rolled up bills?
MIT said a Living Wage (2021) is $16.34 an hour. This guy is paying by the box, and saying "most" workers earn $14 an hour - ie. most workers are earning below the living wage.
Like other commenters, I'm wondering how they are coming to the conclusion that losing $45k a week is cheaper than increasing their wages.
In fact - let's do some maths:
He claims his average wage is $14 an hour.
They're losing $45k a week - not sure if this is profit or revenue, so let's call it revenue for now.
As a general rule of thumb, labour costs typically consume 1/3 of revenue*. So $15k of that $45k turnover would be spent on labour.
$15k divided by $14 = 1070 hours of labour, 40 working hours in a week = 27 full time employees.
So $45,000 of mushrooms requires (roughly) 1070 hours a week of labour.
Revenue - Labour Cost = $30,000
He increases his average wage to $20 an hour.
We've worked out above that $45k worth of mushrooms requires 1070 hours of labour:
1070 x $20 = $21,400
= paying $20 an hour he's still coming out with $23,600 after labour costs. Unless his business model sucks, there's still room for paying all over expenses + profit in there.
*a very rough guide on business expenditure is in thirds - 1/3 cost is labour, 1/3 cost is materials/overheads, 1/3 is profit
They can’t find employees because during the pandemic or in the past the business has probably treated there workers poorly. If people liked there job they wouldn’t have a issue. Poor management if you ask me.
Another industry not paying workers enough, shocked pikachu face............
If he's forced to destroy that much mushroom product then, why not offer a straight $20 salary with less hours to more people who can be placed on more shifts? And its 2021, why are we still paying people per box?
Also I'm interested to know how many times do they harvest from a single bed of mushrooms and if they are sterilizing the bed after one or two harvests or not, because that sounds strange if the nutrients haven't depleted from the substrate the mycelium should still be alive. And should still be able to produce again, and the mushrooms should be releasing spores to inoculate the substrate again. I'm very curious.
As to paying per box. I would rather everything be paid per box or per task so the hard working and efficient get the benefit instead of breeding laziness. A lot of office workers literally just sit there doing as little as possible and just rake in the money
Per box. They pay that way to cheat people out of money. Heat rises and energy levels drop over time. They must complete full shifts, but it's only lucrative at the beginning and dangerous towards the end, especially if your energy drops after say, 8 er 9 hrs.
Loosing 100K a month? I know pay folks a lot better. A $75K a month more to workers and $25K more for you. That is a lot of help.
The bigger question is how much are they paying their workers and offering new workers. If they are paying anything less than a living wage, then they don't deserve to be in business.
Yes prices will go up, but that also means demand will stabilize to a demand that supports the wages of an efficient well managed company.
Also, their solution of "just let us get lower cost labor " is unsustainable.
Exactly.maybe they pay not enough
you can pay them 25$ an hour, but mushrooms will double or more, reducing the amounts bought and they just lose their jobs anyway
Problems of a modern day slave master, crying of shortages.
At no point in the video did I see them mention 'raise the per unit price of the mushrooms they sell.'
Seems like an simple solution to this entire issue, and then they'd actually be able to pay their workers minimally acceptable wages.
Farmers complain about lack of labor while paying dirt cheap wages.
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I have picked up these mushrooms and delivered them from Phillips in Kennet square and everyone there are the nicest people you’ll ever meet. From pickers to managers. FYI…. One of the most picturesque towns ever. So cute
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Pay Americans, or anyone for that matter, a living wage and you'll solve this problem overnight. If it means I pay more for mushrooms than so be it.
"Waaah, we can't hire vulnerable people from desperate countries and pay them slave wages!! Please feel sorry for us!"
Aww, why dont every business owner in US just pays a fair wage to employees rather than cry for cheap labor exporting from other countries. Poor business owners, right...?
because you won't buy a package of mushrooms for $100 dollars a box, therefore everybody in the mushroom industry runs out of business. Your business sense is pretty low.
@@pavelow235 yeah... because trashing 50k worth of mushrooms each month is a good business idea
@@pavelow235 Oh so you are saying buyers are the reason the workers are paid low wages...?! Nice. The mushroom box will cost $100, coz the CEOs n board members need that fat paycheck.
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When your whole business depends on cheap labour It means you are either in need of innovation or your products need to have higher prices
I would gladly work for you. I'm unemployed, I have a huge passion for mushrooms. Soooooo delicious. Too bad they are destroyed instead of donated. I understand, nobody to pick them. Agree to pay a livable wage. I am a 45 year old white woman in America. A 16 year veteran of the US Army. Yet, I have nothing. Never married, no kids, cancer survivor. What's out there for people like me to look forward to?
I feel. 40 blk woman no kids illness. What is there?
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Sounds like people just don't want to give up some of their income to pay higher wages and attract more workers like basically every other industry in the world except technology
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Huh neat, I would've expected the compost to have been spent after the mushrooms got through it.
Well... If you notice that the amount of demand for your product at a specific price is so high that you can't keep up with production then the obvious solution will be to raise the price of the mushrooms which will in turn lower demand to a point where it is manageable with your current workers whilst increasing your profit margins to be able to increase their wages.
36 seconds in. Thats all I needed to see.
I'm a citizen in my country and the pay/exploitation was bad as a farm hand. My immigrant coworkers were paid even less than me, all the while our boss spent money on expensive hobbies and cars. The money is there most of the time, farmers just don't want to pay proper wages.
Strict immigration laws? US is essentially an open border at the time of this video. Trouble is gov is doing so many handouts that no one wants to work.
Or you know, you could pay a living wage and have no labor shortage at all
"I'd rather loose 50-100k per month rather than paying employees a better wage and giving them good working conditions"
What about hiring American workers? How are importing migrants and treating them like shit the solution?
They know the part about writing up the business loss on their taxes I'm sure.
An 8oz container of white button mushrooms, at standard grocery stores, costs $1.99 to $2.19 here in Southern California. This video says the wholesale price that growers sell it for is $0.35 lbs (or $0.17 per 8oz). So what is being bought wholesale for 17.5 cents is being retailed for $2. Thats some kind of mark-up in the middle!
The farming company takes their cut, then the transportation company bringing them to the store takes their cut, before the store also takes their cut.
Losing 40,000 a week? Still cant pay 15$ per hour to make it happen? I hope you go belly up.
I know a spot out here in Alaska were I can guaranteed go back every year and have pounds of lions mane to go home with. As fresh as it gets right out of the woods. Oyster and chicken of the woods mushrooms are plentiful as well. Been trying to find a good patch of sweet tooth's but haven't gotten lucky on that one. I love mushroom hunting, it's always a treat when you find a patch of choice edibles.
No such thing as a labor shortage. Just exploiters' crocodile tears refusing to pay higher wages. Remember, Labor Creates All Wealth. All Profit is Theft From Workers. Divided We Beg. United We Bargain. Fight like heck for the fruits of our labor. Make the bosses cry!
You know nothing
So if you put up all the money time and materials to build a profitable bussness and create jobs for people if you pay yourself it’s theft? You wouldn’t have a buyer for your labor without the owners labor of creating a business in the first place commie!
@@Jason.Goldstriker The slave wouldn't have these Christian learnings without the Master's loving whip. The native wouldn't have this generous residential school without the Settler Colonists. The serf wouldn't have this field to toil without his Lord's benevolence. The child laborer wouldn't have this coal mine without the Owner's brilliant entrepreneurship.
Labor created all wealth. Labor continues to create all wealth. The profit system is organized theft and is responsible for the Sixth Extinction. You can't drink money🚰 and there aren't any jobs on a dead planet. It's time for workers to own and govern all the factories especially factory farms. The factory owners are redundant parasites.
@@Jason.Goldstriker Also tiny lil beseiged, blockaded Cuba disproves your point. There's always plenty of work to do for humans. We don't need exploiters to own anything. Workers can govern ourselves just fine thank you very much
I mean, they need to plant less. Pretty simple. They alone are responsible for the waste, not the lack of labor.
Tax write off
They're also responsible for the lack of labor. Really, this whole thing is just them trying to 'make business' off exploitation.
I love watching these insider business videos because a lot of them straight up just admit that businesses exploit their labor or the thing they sell is inflated in price due to greed and newer cheaper methods drive it down.
Industries such as these should consider becoming collectives. I mean worker owned. That would make workers want to develop a future in the industry because they are now business owners but this also requires bigger thinking from the current owners who want low paid workers. If those workers were also paid with a share of the business that might attract more people. Something similar happens in startups where employees are awarded in stocks that they could in theory cash-in after 4 years of employment. These companies want to change the law to suit them so they can remain as owners.