Thoughts on Prey 2022: Lots of Screaming Over Nothing
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- I talk about the new Predator movie. Mainly how the internet slap fights are annoying and propped up a kinda mid sequel as something it's not.
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The fact that this movie is considered a highlight, says more about modern Hollywood than anything.
You see EFAP cover this one? They all started out saying, "Yeah, it was pretty good," but by the end of the breakdown they were all realizing just how bad it was, haha
It also says a lot about these idiotic people that are deeming this garbage better than the Original Predator. It's like the masses have been brainwashed into loving this crap.
@@RS-kt6bo That's why most movies are mediocre, you put it in front of people, and they will clap like seals.
@@CommissarDan Yeah but mediocre movies that were put out to the people before never got inexplicably adulated. It's the horrible times we live in. Go woke and the soyboys/feminists automatically call it the best evaaa. 35 years in and the Original Predator is one of the greatest action/horror movies ever made. 5 months down the line and no one will give a shite about this below average, bad CGI film.
the movie is "descent" that is it
the problem is that the franchise has in a steady decline of shit movies only pumped out for the name recognition and not really caring about making good stuff or care about what the audience wants......
when everything around you is shit to "OK" even "descent" looks like gold
If there's one thing we can agree on, it's that the CGI department fucked over the practical effects of the predators face, CGI strikes again.
I will never understand it. The stuff they showed off looked sick.
@@TheAlmightyLoli I was one of the people who jumped at shadows over this movie like you mentioned in the vid, but my main concerns was when I heard "hulu exclusive" and "pg-13". Seeing that the second issue was b.s. and that their isn't much in the way of modern politics b.s. I might pick up a second hand copy.
Yep
The thing 2011 syndrome
@@flamestoyershadowkill6400 the thing 2011 is a masterclass compared to this
One of this movie’s problems: The dialogue is overly-modern, using modern colloquialisms instead of something fitting the period.
There’s no sense of superstition to the Natives facing what they would clearly see as a demonic spirit. We’re talking about American Indians, after all; they’re well-known for the deeply-held spiritual beliefs that they hold to even today.
Everyone talks like someone from today, aside from the unwashed, dirty French trappers that are depicted with every single negative trope under the sun. There’s no visual indication of the times on the Indian characters: They’re all soft-skinned and look like Vogue models in warpaint. These are COMANCHES, for God’s sake!
When going over the Prey film couldn't help thinking its characters lacked the grittiness of something like the old Mel Gibson movie "Apocalypto 2006". Also the female MC grasping predator tech in a manner that would only make sense to someone from are time period. This particular film will age like milk over time just like the other bad predator spinoffs.
I agree except for the trappers they knew what predator was, already started hunting him and did the most damage.
Seemed pretty smart to me
Comanches, one of the more fierce tribes of the Midwest. Shame we can’t depict native tribes realistically in these times. It would be really cool.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
Indeed. When the Comanches came to Texas, they drove out the local badasses: the Lipan Apaches, who were reviled for their ferocity by the Caddo and other local tribes.
@@fatjoe460 Tbf Apocalypto was pretty historically inaccurate; the Mayans were basically combined with Aztecs and made to look like Amazon tribal people (barely wearing clothes, using primitive tools).
The movie was alright but you hit the nail on the head with the dialogue. Her dialogue during the fire scene where she whistles to lure the Predator was a big turn off. If she hadn't said anything while the predator approached and it was just a big stare down I would really appreciate it a lot more.
As it is, it feels like a wine-mom wrote that scene.
I like your idea for the protagonist being overly-protective, therefore she wants to fight.
RLM also had a good idea, instead of a warrior she turns into a leader of her tribe, strategies a plan for them to take down the predator together - 'Prey' can also be Plural.
But Hollywood doesn't give a sh*t and the standards are so low it turns a mediocre film into a highlight.
To piggyback off of that "old-western Predator" thought:
Setting is mid-1800s Arizona or Texas in the midst of a possible war between local native american tribes, a large gang of outlaws and a town's citizens smack dab in the middle of their territories. However, a small group of Predators sees this as an opportunity to earn lots of trophies, so they lands in the middle to claim their prizes.
Now the gang of thieves, the native tribes and the townsfolk need to find some common ground before the "Skinwalkers" decide to wipe them all out one by one.
Awesome idea.
Someone get this man a writing room and a budget!
Quick!!
My problem with the MC is that it feels there where 3 versions the script writer had in their head: one of a badass female warrior, which you can see all over the movie, one of a smart hunter who lacked experience and was afraid, like at the start when they were hunting the puma, and another one who is not even a warrior at all has has to rise up to the challenge, given that she was trained as a healer and those flowers are what gave her an advantage over this predator.
I feel if they stuck with one version of the MC, it could have been a more enjoyable experience.
@SLugZ _pls Not saying unbelievable, just feeling that they had 2 characters, one that was just a badass and another that needed a little push to become a badass, and sometimes feels like the the script could not agree which one she was supposed to be. Like a said, inconsistent.
i mean, the movie has more problem apart the MC, even if they made her more of a consistent character, the movie is still kinda boring and the action scenes to tame to be an enjoyable one.
Thank you. I think people are being really dramatic about how "good" this movie is, but that's only because literally everyone assumed it was going to be horrible. Judged against other movies, or coming into this one without a reference, this movie is average at best
>"this movie is average at best"
this movie's got a Ph.D
I hate how each version of the predator the crab mouth keeps getting less skin between the mandibles also the first movie is the only time where the top tusk of the pred are used for clicking and Communication
After hearing the cat and mouse analogy I realized something, predator is just gorey sci-fi Tom and Jerry, just with more mice.
When girlie suddenly turns into John Wick I had a hearty laugh and stopped right there. Not worth the aggravation or the effort to get mad at it.
I especially liked the part where one guy holds her more or less in place, but his friend just can’t seem to figure out how swords work. “Whoa, whoops! Hey! Stop wiggling so much!”
You can’t believe a female can be badass?
@@vibangigan5336 no
@@alvinyakitori8720 Then world history must read to you like a epic fantasy novel bro
@@vibangigan5336 no
Best way to make a predator movie is just dumping a predator into a random historical place. It would be cool if they made a movie in ww2 on the eastern front or in samurai Japan
Predator vs imperial Japan
Ah, they did do one where it was predators in WW1. Sands of Time I think it was called. Good lil mini comic series.
The soft retcon with the pistol is not cool.
Honestly, it was just okay. Not overtly awful but not awesome.
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🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
(Give Genndy Tartakovsky the Predator license.)
It's a really crappy retcon, but Critical Drinker's theory of how the pistol is in Predator 2 now implies that another Predator killed everyone in the hunter village from Prey, and that's pretty funny to me.
Not exactly a retcon, at the end the hint a Predaror may still get it
I really liked the old story of the pistol and it would have been great as it’s own movie, though if it’s any consolation at least the Predators will slaughter the rest of the tribe and get their hands on it.
Why do you keep spamming no step on snek are u sum kind of faggot?
Primal is pretty freaking awesome, I must say. ANd Tartakovsky's Clone Wars was way better than the computer-generated series, imo.
Honestly can we just get a character that’s just good. They don’t need to incompetent to be “ReLaTaBle” they don’t need to be a walking diversity quota just a good character. Where they can have a good day and equally get their shit rocked.
I feel like this movie is going to have the Force Awakens/Halloween 2018 treatment where people will praise the movie as a "return to form for the franchise". Then, as the years go by, the honeymoon phase will wear off, and people will start saying, "Maybe this wasn't really all that." Expect it it happen immediately if this film ever gets a sequel.
The bar is so low at this point that people will take anything they can get, really this movie would have been much better if they focused on the whole tribe instead of the main female protagonist as they’re hunted by the Predator.
The bar is so low and people have been so beaten down that are willing to accept woke horseshit that isn't overly in your face preachy and the writing isn't full cancer just like that feminazi rainbow flag garbage of Arcane.
I can't remember who said it, but it was quite succinct in my opinion. "Had this movie been made ten or twelve years ago, it would've been largely considered bad to mediocre. But because of the endless social-political bullshit that's infested mainstream media, it's now good."
Prey is the Fantastic Four of the Predator series. It's a movie specifically made to secure franchise rights and keep the brand alive. Nothing more or less. It being an average watch is the bonus.
Mind you, I'm not shitting on anybody that likes Prey. I'm just saying how low the bar had sunk over the years to the point it doesn't take much to be an average/ok movie.
@@frug5629 If you're not then I will.
Prey is so fucking dumb and I have no idea how anyone can like the fmc. She gets all her brother's friends killed because she "needs to prove herself" -_-
She also gets her own brother killed lastly that final fight is the silliest thing ever. The predator should have ripped her head off in a matter of seconds.
Its true for games. People did the same shit with Jedi Fallen Order and its a fucking mediocre game
@@redline841 And they put ugly breastless genderless freaks that looks like dudes that they're marketed as chicks.
I'd rate Prey as the second worst Predator movie, mostly because of the incompetence of the predator in the movie. People keep saying "it's supposed to be an inexperienced and reckless fighter" but why would you want to watch a movie about a predator be bad at the one thing they're supposed to be? To the point they fucking kill themselves because they don't know how their own equipment works. Also Naru being completely unphased at the end of the movie from fighting what she thinks is a demon that killed her brother and half her tribe, when Dutch was left with PTSD at the end of Predator annoyed me.
The biggest issue with this movie though, is that Hollywood has set such a low fucking bar for what makes a good movie that people keep saying the movie is amazing.
By your inept logic, you can keep your wherewithal when you’re shot in the head by a pistol @ point blank range like this Feral Predator; Okay WeirdChamp
@@Sumblueguy41 Giving yourself a like must mean we should trust your logic instead.
@@MikeDchy25 the predator getting killed with his own weapon was clever but seemed a bit clumsy. The reality is this was a straight to streaming movie. The CG didn’t help
@@laughacct88 Yep that sums it up nicely.
As a Native American woman myself. I was hoping the brother was going to say to his sister. That she is needed in the village because the elders need a reliable person to help with the children. Because they listen to her better. But when he comes back from the hunt he teachers her how to defend the village if things go wrong. That would have been fine, but maybe it’s in the directors cut.
Personally I thought Prey would be better if it took place in the Warring States period Japan and the protagonist was a Shinobi trying to make a name for themselves in their clan. So they fight the predator thinking it was an oni demon. That would have been awesome.
Or take inspiration from the short story where the predator from the 2nd movie teams up with a pirate captain to defeat his crew in mutiny but just stretch it out longer, so that we can see the pirate and predator manning a ship to hunt down the crew and their treasures.
Someone needs to make that happen ngl
There was a "samurai duel" scene in "Predators" and it was awosome.
Ok, that sounds badass and could see that happening.
@@cpom5075 that fucken happened?
I really wish her brother would have been a character. He was actually a good character. Also, the tribe should have been honorable. Comanche were known for being extremely brutal. There's a big reason the other tribes worked with Europeans to take the Comanche out.
I'll take Predators any day of the week over this. Only worth watching scenes are when the Predator kills animals, the French trappers, and fights the Brother character who was more likeable than the main character herself.
The last movie was "The Predditor", this one is "YES PREY KWEEN!"
I put Prey in the same category as games like Outerworlds. It's good and I enjoyed it but I have to ask is it getting massive praise because it's good or because it's the first good movie in this franchise in awhile.
Same opinion
You the first not unbelievably awful movie in the franchise in a while, cus that would be more accurate.
The issue is that media once again blew this up into a proportion where it is important to have a strong female character and even the response from some people was that this is a good representation of a strong female character, which is not.
Just like you describe the non-existing motivation for her to become a hunter, there are also many instances where they have to make the Predator dumb or even outright ignore rules they establish. The end fight is especially obnoxious with the Predator hitting her with his shield that should cut her head off, only to do barely any damage. You can actually see that in this video's footage. It is really the desperation to create a strong female character when it does it out of necessity to dumb down the script.
They also made the brothers horse into a ninja. The Predator got distracted by the barking dog, took an unusually long time to decide to kill the dog and was stopped because of a stealth attack from her brother speeding around on horseback. The hell was that?
Who cares about strong female main charecters jesus christ. People spend too much time online.
i think you mean incel channels that make money from clickbait made a big deal over this movie having a woman, ready to shit on it.
She's also a terrible person who shows no remorse for any of her tribes deaths aside from a very, very brief moment for her brother.
The main actress sucks. She deserves a razzie. The character she plays could have been written better.
I still think that it's dumb that everyone but the female protagonist was practically useless. Her brother only had one moment to be a badass and that was right before he died.
The problem is that she is outfighting the Predator in hand 2 hand several times during the final battle. She should be immediately dead every time she fights close range, including when the Pred grabs her by the throat, when it bodynslams her full force into the ground, when it slices her with its shield, even when jumps 30ft from a tree onto the Pred.
She's shown as faster than him, is able to overpower him like when she pushes him to cut his own arm off and when she is able to push both of them into some rocks to save herself despite his strength and weight, and when she's able to jump on him, tie a rope around him, and somehow pull him over despite him outweighed her by about 400lbs. Keep in mind he stands still and does nothing while she's roping and pulling him.
The Pred is so stupid that he falls for literally every trap that's set for him, and just moronically stores for several seconds while his arrow is flying around to shoot him in the face. Her final plan shouldn't even worm because it requires insane placement of the male and the Predators head. where if he's even a few inches off the plan fails. Keep in kind that's only if the Pred decides to use his gun instead of literally anything else.
*_Little woman fighting and killing Yautja (Predators)?_*
*_Machiko Naguchi: "Already done."_*
*_Name of title? "Aliens versus Predator: PREY"_*
I’m binge watching your 21 hour berserk video and now every time I hear your voice that’s all I think of lmao
And one last thing, they could have focused on the whole tribe instead of War Chief Pocahontas. You know, John Carpenter's The Thing, you don't know who will survive in the end confrontation, but I digress. Can't wait for the Woman King review.
I knew the movie wasn't a masterpiece for one reason: the critics said it was a masterpiece.
Here’s my two cents. If I was a bad writer and I was told to write something I would write something bad and my biases would be clearly shown. That’s all this really is. It’s a badly written film with the opinions of the writers on display because they couldn’t write something that distracted people. Narnia and LOTR are very heavily influenced by the Catholic faith, but no one goes “this is Catholic propaganda” because they are so well written you don’t notice it. If this film had been written better a lot of its complaints would die. Wait a minute, make something good and get praise. That makes a lot of sense actually. Huh.
@SLugZ _pls I don't think its propaganda, and I apologise for not phrasing my statement better. My point was you can see certain Biases from the writers, such as a wanting to display a very violent and unclean people as nicer and cleaner than they really were than they were. They also displayed the Comanche as though they were like the Iroquois or Cherokee, when they were a much more brutal and violent people. And then having her goal be "I want to hunt because I am strong woman" instead of something that made sense with the setting, just to push a girl power message.
This stuff isn't bad inherently, it just could've been written better to mask it more. For Example, Full Metal Jacket never explicitly goes "WAR BAD!!!" but it makes you feel the effects of war and what it does to people. If they switch the line "I hunt cause you think I can't" to something more like "I want to hunt because I want to be valuable" or something they shows more character. Her motivation feels anti glass ceiling, not wanting to be a better person, if that makes sense.
The kung pow soundbite at the end made my whole day man, you're the best😂😂
Honestly I feel like they tried so hard to make the protaganist seem weak and incappable that it almost feels like she lucked out when fighting the predator. It didn't really feel like she was outsmarting him it felt more like she just kept running into him at inconvenient times.
She john wicked the french and the predator... the fuck you mean accident?
Here’s an idea for her becoming a hunter, the Predator has been killing so much animal in the area , she wants to investigate and help out hunting to feed the tribe.
This is definitely one of the movies in cinematic history.
Of what?
@@MikeDchy25 it means that it's a average movie. Not spectacular or bad but meh
@@razorflossrazor2937 I think it's shit and incredibly boring. Ten years ago this wouldn't have even been made let be called OK. Sorry but for me it's crap with stupid fights involving accommodating stunt idiots and the usual lore breaking stupidity.
Predator 2 is still the best sequel in the franchise and I'm tired of people saying it's a bad movie.
I'm not a writer but her reason for wanting to be a hunter could have been to hunt a certain animal. Like a cougar (with a specific pattern or scar on it) kills her family so she wants to kill it. She tracks and finds it in a cave or something. When she's about to attack it the predator appears and kills it with a knife or it's hands. Then that's its introduction maybe 30 minuets in.
My biggest gripe is in the end the predator dies because he left his Bluetooth on. I just thought he could use everything independently but naw man its on 24/7 with no off button, auto connect with no manual aim and fire.
you hit the nail on the head when talking about the woke/anti-woke struggle.
the thing that many anti-woke folk don't get right now is that the pendulum always swings, if you fight your enemies with zeal and passion then over time you burn yourself into thinking that you are right about everything. or worse, you believe that you can never be wrong.
I hate woke culture. I hate what it has done to the things I love and am passionate about. movies, the video game industry, D&D (thank god for pathfinder), all the way down to writing as a whole and artform itself.
but I can't become bitter, or hateful at the folk themselves, because that just sets me up to take their place and begin to rip away things that don't belong to me to make them "better" and to make them "mine".
and just like that, I become a walking talking living nightmare of what I hated.
in about 2 years, many folks that I look up to and support will ideologically twist themselves into the very thing I respected them for fighting against, mostly because they became addicted to attention and trick themselves into thinking they cannot be wrong or have their strings pulled. I am very glad you likely will still be someone I respect by the time that pendulum hits the other side.
great off the cuff video man, have a good one.
You hit it right on the nail. I'm tired of feeling like I have to be mad at shit.
This is not a Predator movie. Its a Disney movie where Disney princess must win no matter what!!!!!
I put it around where Predators-2010 is. An enjoyable/passable movie. Still not on the level of Pred 1 or 2, but I’ll take it over 2018 any day.
The last 20-30 minutes do get goofy though and you have to suspend your disbelief a fair bit.
Dude, Arnold got his butt HANDED to him when he fought the Predator in hand-to-hand combat, yet somehow this movie expects me to believe this 100 lb girl can hold her own 😂🤣😂🤣
Exactly. Out-smarting it is one thing but complete success when fighting someone so monstrous requires more than just brains.
She wouldn't have survived without her dog and her brother.. so no. Stop hating for the sake of hating. It makes you look like s whiny bitxh
Predator picks up a huge ass bear and kills it, yet is completely dumb by the end and has the lamest death of all the characters..
Also the predator trying to fight animals 1 v 1 but staying in camo the entire time was hilarious. It's like they want you to believe it's honorable sort of but the camo still being used completely disproves that notion very clearly lol.
original: why do you want to hunt? because you say I can't.
fix: why do you want to hunt? because you don't believe me when I say something's out there.
5:28 you mean the final fight were she phisically fights against the Predator, in a scene so baffling that broke the entire movie? Or when she killed a entire Camp of French Hunters with her magic martial art? Or that the main character is a morally bankrupt narcisist who is responsible for the deaths of all the tribe hunters? If this was a movie about a weak hunter defeating a formidable beast with inteligence and recoursefullness, this would be a good movie. Except is a movie were a super powerful girl defeats a dumb monster with plot armor. The fact that even exists a argument about this movie shows that we regressed in the way we create and look at media.
Case by case, yeah that's a good way of looking at it. I kind of felt like in essence they wanted this character to be more like Ripley, but it falls short.
Honestly after all these years of bad Predator sequels perhaps comparing Prey to the others make it seem a whole lot better.... or maybe it really was that good
None of the other movies have done justice to the Predator, only the original. People only like this because its not awful.
That chick took the role for the woke agenda. She didn't knew it was about Predator until they started filming! Stop making excuses of defending woke horseshit just because it isn't overly in your face preachy and the writing isn't full cancer just like that trash of Arcane.
Nice recency bias bro.
@@kernal1127 People have been so beaten down that are willing to accept woke horseshit just because it isn't overly in your face preachy and the writing isn't full cancer just like that feminazi rainbow flag garbage of Arcane.
I actually liked this movie
I genuinely try to avoid hype “negative or otherwise” about stuff. I just thought it looked cool.
And Predators is awesome.
My favourite character is the friend Spetnaz Russian guy
This editorial was the best take I've seen on this whole debacle. And I'm really glad you brought up the horror genre and female protagonists being ubiquitous throughout movie history. This was a big deal in the 80s and having a female protagonist in horror made the stakes higher. people liked that back then and I like it now. that's one of the big reasons those movies were so popular.
Watching a tiny 100 pound girl outmatch a Predator in a straight up fight is just laughable. Dutches fight with the Predator feels like a desperate struggle for survival, but Naruu just completely dismantled the thing.
Watch the video lmao, this gets addressed.
@@digitallymenacing8722 I'm sorry but the final fight still sucks regardless of her "growth" throughout the film.
@@kernal1127 Yeah I dont get how she went from "yikes im being bullied by the men in my tribe when we throw hands" too "im about to go assasins creed on all these french invaders 1 vs whatever they throw at me." I havent heard a single convincing reason how tf that kinda "growth" occurred....
Long story short - it's a shit movie. I doesn't use any Predator strong points. It makes hunter look like a silly vandal, doesn't follow it's own logic and then disregards the lore aspects. Silly piece of shit. I am disappointed that AGAIN these idiots fuck up great franchises...
You insulted original predator creature logic/lore, what the f... ? The whole point is that he is agile like a cat, cautious, witty... Berzerkers don't work. The half-mask is wrong, even in details it's wrong, Yautja don't breate Earth atmosphere. Hence the color of the blood.
Basically whatever, it's shit and it's not worth. No issue with woman being a protagonist. Change "predator" creature to anything else and it's a forgettable (same as this movie, but without PREDATOR) movie.
Running through the woods, crawling through the mud and covered in blood.. yet somehow her nails are still perfectly clean and manicured.
The main character looks like the type of hispanic latina that I went to high school with and that I see in the mall. She doesn't look native american at all compared to everyone else in the film. I remember back in the day when they made a sequel to that Brendan Frazier The mummy movie, They also used a Hispanic actress, but the difference was she at least looked like she was Egyptian, I didn't find out she was Hispanic until way later during an interview she did.
I take comfort in the fact that since that Predator in Predator 2 has that antique gun means that likely after roll credits, the Predator's buddies found their camp and proceeded to massacre female protag and the rest of them... and oooh, found a nifty, if not crude souvenir gun during the trip! 👌
@SLugZ _pls Right there with you lol
@SLugZ _pls ok clown 🤡
It's not that we have PTSD, we just compare it to the original and it sucks.
I agree, anti-woke people are not as bad as woke people and those who say that are in denial. However, even if the final result of the film turned out not so bad, they still tried to market it with that angle. You can't say it's ptsd. If someone got stabbed and then saw someone later on running at them with a knife they're right to be afraid even if they did not get stabbed again.
Edit: That's life by the way. People can only go from one extreme to the other. We never achieve balance. We're gong to go back to witch burning and D&D moral panic.
From almost 2 years from when this video was uploaded I completely forgot this movie existed, until this video popped up in my recommendations. Loli was right it really was just a flavor of the week movie
I still really want Zatoichi Vs. Predator to be made into a full feature length film instead of a seriously cool short on youtube.
I've rewatched A v P from 2004 After prey and i just Wonder how is it we dont have a Predator centered movie yet, with the main character being a Predator. We've been teased soo much that these guys are more than just single minded hunter, like how they honor dead Predator and even in AvP the Predator had some dry humor with Riley. They already have been established as badasses with cool armor in all 5 movies it's about Time we see some named Predator. Right now they are about as characterized as Clones After the 2003 cartoon.
It would ruin the mystique and allure of the Predator if they pulled the curtain away.
@@mysteryman4915 At this point, the franchise have little to no mystique at all.
@@1986Hikaru are you telling me you want to watch a predator sit for 45 minutes getting it’s ship registered before Xenomorph season at the space DMV?
@@mysteryman4915 maybe?
I don't know why, but I find the age of mythology music in the beginning really funny
My problem with the movie is the main character is incredibly bland, and most of the characters are shit except the brother.
They're too aware that the cast is fodder.
@@TheAlmightyLoli So was most of the cast of the original Predator movie, but at least they gave us a reason to care about them when they're killed. Also, I felt there was more scenes with the brother that they cut out.
@@SalTheMehGuy The original cast was at least entertaining in their own cheesy 80s way, but kinda cool
I thought it was ok but the ending was weak, predator 2 is the best one followed by the original than predators while the rest are bout as good as prey imo
Yeah it was aight, it’s a shame that they just can’t make something that even gets close to the original in terms of quality tho.
I’d like to see another AVP but given the state of both franchises at the minute I hold very little hope that if one was made that it’d be good
I heard the alien series is getting a tv show with the guys who made legion a xmen series
I haven’t seen either of those, they any good?
I agree that the reaction to the more progressive elements was a pavlovian response to other media that antagonizes audiences and pushes weak stories that happen to have minorities and representation
I am going to screenshot your comment mate, it's the perfect way to convey this thought.
It amazes that this movie is being called the best Predator movie since the original. Have our standards for what classes a good movie dropped so low?
holly shit man I was watching your stream last night and your vid popped up. 10/10
I liked the idea of a Predator movie where two Yautja are at odds with each other. One of them being a 'Bad Blood' (someone that dishonours their species by revelling in killing for the sheer sake of killing, armed or not.), and the other being someone specifically sent in to kill them. I feel this'd also work with having a predator being a protagonist. the Yautja hunting the the Bad Blood could function in a secondary protagonist role.
I was thinking of the Hunter being from a Widow Clan. Wives' that've lost their partners. This'd mean the Hunter would be a Huntress, a female Yautja. Despite that, her gender would only be addressed maybe once throughout the entire movie. Going with the idea of Predators being individuals, instead of being all the same, I like the idea of the Huntress actually being Bad Blood's tutor, with hints of even a parental role having taken course in the past. It'd be hard to spot upon first sitting, but both the Huntress and Bad Blood are having difficulty delivering that fatal strike and finally killing the other. For Bad Blood, it's killing someone he's never had a vendetta against, and for the Huntress, it's killing what's essentially her adopted son, even if he does deserve it.
For small details, I'd go with the Huntress having zero care for Humans. She's got no interest in hunting them, and despite that lack of care for them overall, she also doesn't go out of her way to kill any of them, only killing those that attack her first. We'd also see her skillset, and along with that, her prowess in her skillset. She's stealthy, a stalker first, and definitely no berserker. Her moves are precise, cautious and calculated. Displaying a lack of playfulness rare among what we've seen of Yautja. Still big like all Yautja of course (because super-model body Yautja sounds dumb as hell.). We'd also get hints of her age. She's past her prime, whilst Bad Blood is still in it. In all likelihood, this'd be her last mission before reaching the status of an Elder.
For Bad Blood, we'd get details that make him more sympathetic, whilst still making it clear he absolutely needs to go down, as he will not stop. Maybe he's got a lot of scars on his body. Deliberate scars, not done by him. Maybe some part of him just...broke during his mission, possibly being captured, tortured and experimented on. We could get a few hints that a part of Bad Blood wants to die, so it can just end, so he can let go, and hopefully have an honourable death too.
Anyways, this is just a little ramble. Had the ideas in my head for a while, wanted to put them into words.
I love this idea. Wouldn't mind seeing this.
This sounds awesome
Cringe
But cute cringe
@@THEBLACKRIGHTWINGER no, just cringe
Hit the nail on the head with describing one side as "Media PTSD" there, bud. I feel like that's the real issue there: no fucking hope anymore
Yep, I get sick and tired of hearing "ST is dead, SW is dead, this shit sucks, that shit sucks". However, that still brings clicks (FNT is going gangbusters for example), so the only hope you'll hear is "Hey this YTer is doing a graphic novel, support him!". Yeah, no. Rippaverse might be great, but you ain't getting my cash on a fucking promise. I've been burned too many times.
It's exhausting, to say the least. You want to be fair minded going in. But once you've been burned too many times, you can't help but be cynical.
@@ironhead2008 Star wars is dead, Star Trek is dead, and all marvel shit sucks. Cope. Seethe. Dilate.
I think what you had to say was totally valid. I’m strongly anti-woke myself, but I perfectly understand the point you’re trying to make about how people are seeing things that aren’t there. It’s really not all that different from the whole crowd seeing everything as racist or sexist, when you get right down to it, it’s just the other extreme.
It really is a case-by-case thing. I wrote Prey off because of the marketing, because that did the movie no favors, but now that it’s out, I don’t think it really benefits anybody to talk about it in the same way you would, say, She-Hulk. She-Hulk is already getting a lot of mockery for being hyper-feminist, and deservedly so.
There is a part of me that really hopes that the end of this stuff is just beyond the horizon, but only time will tell. For now, I’m just gonna go back to enjoying things as I have been. Getting stuck in the trenches with this stuff is annoying and exhausting.
They really forced the PROtagonist in Prey. Kind of like AvP I think? The one where they went to Antarctica. It wasn’t a natural protagonist at all.
Now I thought wow Prey. It seemed like it was gonna be Billy from OG Predator. But it wasn’t like that. The antagonist brother is who I wanted to be the main character. They make him OP but not really. The way he killed the cougar then took the credit was very stupid. It felt like a hidden message there.
The scenes with the Predator….damn they are cool. Worth a watch just on that.
Now I would love other battles. Like a Greek Phalanx vs Predator. Give me Leonidas vs Predator. Idk.
Loli nailed all of the points. I just think they could have fixed it making the Bro and Sis relationship as the ones being hunted or surviving.
Think you mixed up ‘protagonist’ with ‘antagonist’. The ‘antagonist’ is the villain/monster/agressor of a story, the protagonist is the good guy/main character
@@andrewryan1946 I thought he was being cheeky and calling the Predator the true protagonist.
@@redman9493 Yeah Predator was on a hunting trip gets harassed by natives. He is the protagonist.
Nah I fucked up when I wrote this. I wanted the brother to be the protagonist or even both that the family unit needs to back each other up. I really disliked the Cougar scene. He wanted to give her a win but then sweeps the leg? That was really the only thing that bothered me in the movie.
Tbf some anti-woke channels did say that it wasn't as bad as they thought it was going to be
We are at the point where this is considered as top quality in cinemas... while... in reality, Predators from 2010 was better than this, Prey is not good, neither bad, just a big "Meh" at the end of the day.
I'd be more agreeable to your "tiny woman vs predator" point if it weren't for the fact that she does better in a one on one fight against the predator than both Arnold and Danny Glover combined, I mean she makes it cut its own arm off, does ridiculous ninja moves and slides under its damn legs. No human being should do that well in a close up hand to hand fight with a yautja. I think that was definitely some feminist filmmaking right there, but if the rest of the movie was any good, I wouldn't even mind it that much.
Also the predator in this movie is a complete dumb ass. He never learns from his mistakes, he falls for such blatantly obvious traps multiple times and apparently can't tell when his own weapon is aimed directly at him.
Well said.
Not to mention the predator had 2 or 3 opportunities to kill her before the end fight, and she somehow takes that big ass creature down with rope without much trouble.
She would've been a lot more believable and likable if she didn't turn into spider matrix woman, and didn't remind me every 10 mins that she has to prove herself and that she's a hunter too...
I am from the future people
Everybody forgot about this movie. He was right
Naru is one of the most one dimensional characters I've ever seen. The fact thats being ignored is very frustrating because it just tells me I'll keep seeing it.
I need a Ben 10 style predator film series
Where historical figures like George Washington , and William Wallace fight the predator, or team up with them to win the war.
I liked this movie a lot and I am not sorry to say so. Glad your thoughts on it were leveled and aimed solely at the movie’s merits instead of towards waves it’s been making in the political cesspool of modern day social media. Personally, to me, the moment I finished the movie for the first time, I immediately rewatched it and enjoyed it more than the first watch. You may call the movie forgettable, but to me, it wasn’t. And that’s okay. It’s just nice to see someone give a level-headed analysis for once.
A full year later and you were right. Everyone forgot.
I think you captured my thoughts on it exactly. I have friends who are treating this like its Terminator 2 or something. I mean, it's fine. I think the fact that it's fine is kind of a miracle, so maybe that is shocking. But to compare it to T2?!?! Come on, in 2 years we'll forget this existed.
Meanwhile I keep trying to get everyone to watch the Indian movie RRR and literally NO ONE will! RRR is like no other movie out there. Even if you dislike it, the movie is unique. But most people who give it even a sliver of a chance will love it. But instead they are all watching Prey 3 times. Ugh...
I LOVED RRR!!!!!
the themes of love, companionship, discrimination, gaining power and what to do with it. Beautiful. Can't wait to rewatch.
There is only one Predator movie, change my mind.
By far the worst predator. No man in the whole franchise has been strong enough to fight Predator hand to hand, but here comes little 1700s native girl somehow with insane close quarter hand to hand skills and a Jackie Chan rope hatchet to finally get the best of Predator. Two thumbs WAAAAY the f$#% down!!
It could be said how you view these things is a miserable way too.I Disagree with this video but I love the channel and it's okay to disagree. Look forward to the next video.
5:35 Is so goddamn funny just the concept of an alien hunter just punching a bear in the jaw
I recently watched all 21 hours of your Berserk retrospective. It's how I found you. I've watched more of your content since. I love your commentary! We see the world in a very similar way!
I mean when it comes to predator movies, I don’t watch for character development or motivation, I watch for the predator. And I think this movie definitely delivered on that
Predator vs Batman. It was an excellent comic and could be an excellent movie.
This fucking guy with the kung-pow references
MY MAN, finally, average Ahab enjoyer. True chad
I personally think no one from this time period should be so easily able to intuit how the highly advanced tech of a spacefaring race would work. I also think the homing aspect of the shoulder cannon was contrived as hell (original plasma cannon had no tracking in flight) and done only to serve as the mechanism of the predator s demise. Why would a person from the 1700 know more about predator tech than an actual predator?
There are also several scenes where she outmuscles the predator like when she pulls him into the sinkhole and forces his shield into his arm.
Overall I think the film cheapens the predator to elevate the protagonist. Just compare Arnold at the end of the first predator to Amber in prey. One is in a state of utter PTSD the other comes home unscathed and triumphantly hoisting her "told ya so" trophy.
Despite what the film does right I think it degrades the mystique of predators overall.
Not to bother you or anything Lofi. But I just finished your 21 hour berserk analysis and I was wondering if you’ve read the latest chapters so we might get a part six to the berserk video series?? Like I said, sorry to bother you and all but I’m just curious. (I may or may not be addicted to berserk after seeing your video tbh.) 😂😏
I completely agree with how you pointed out how dry the charecters were it felt like the main charecter being Native American wasn't as important as her being a woman and going against gender norms. Also I still think this is the best predator sequel to date, even if some scenes feel not needed.
Can't help to compare Prey to 2011's The Thing because both have allot of the same problems with tha characters as much as they work more like tropes and archetypes, the only difference is that Prey was followed by an awful movie while 2011's The Thing was followed by an outstanding film.
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I’d say the one argument towards *her* as the protagonist is that final fight between them two literally becomes a different film. The fight between the Yautja is though very stylized yet natural but there’s nothing that took me right out it. The fight with Naru and the Yautja felt like a John Wick fight. She starts jumping from a tree what looks like 20ft. Or so lands on the Yautja and then flips off trees, slides under him, even uses her dog perk she leveled up using her xp to have it materialize tomahawk in mouth. Then in the end when she pulled the Yautja off his feet into the quicksand I thought”….how she do that….?”
I have just become used to media destroying my favorite franchises that when this movie came out I just assumed it would be a shitshow.
The bottom line is the setting is great, the directing and the script were average. Even if you’re a shitty photographer if what you’re taking a picture of is beautiful the picture won’t look terrible. Film making is an art and the art should always be the focus. However social issues have always been a key motivation in ALL OF FILM MAKING. Some of the most celebrated movies in history have had the most belabored political messages that could be imagined. This is why anti Hollywood conspiracy theory spreads, because there’s political advantage to doing so. The question is not IF a film has an agenda, it’s does the art reflect honestly, and ideally does the art transcend its idealogical limitations? Getting mad that a film has an agenda is like getting mad that rain is wet.
Loli !!!!! Good to see you are back, buddy ☺
Eh it looks pretty derivative and I don't think I'm missing much in not watching it. Predator 1 and 2 are still the best ones.
That chick took the role for the woke agenda. She didn't knew it was about Predator until they started filming! Stop making excuses of defending woke horseshit just because it isn't overly in your face preachy and the writing isn't full cancer just like that trash of Arcane.
It’s definitely better then 2. Nostalgia aside the movie isn’t that good.
@@andrewrogers3067 People have been so beaten down that are willing to accept woke horseshit just because it isn't overly in your face preachy and the writing isn't full cancer.
@@andrewrogers3067 I seriously doubt that.
Is that age of mythology Song in the background???
“PREDATOR:DARK AGES” blew all 3 of the new predator movies outta the water, and that shit was a fan film.