People don't normally abandon a boat with a dinghy attached. With the anchor just hanging in 1400 feet of water, that would indicate the boat broke free from an anchorage and drifted. But people usually use the dinghy to travel ashore or to another boat. A dinghy with motor is not an insignificant cost. Some speculated the boat was abandoned. But people that do that open the seacocks and let them sink. Not the case here. The hanging anchor is the clue. But the attached dinghy is the mystery.
Yeah the whole thing was weird, my thought was if it had drug anchor and drifted I just don’t see how it could have gotten that far out and into the middle of the shipping lane with the coast guard dealing with it first , there is so much traffic in that area it would have been reported adrift far before reaching that zone
Cool liked seeing the anchor retrieval part. Like you where saying if you did get hurt how difficult it could get. I just busted up and broke some ribs this weekend and thought about stuff like that. As always a cool video. Have a good week
There are a few misconceptions here about salvage. The salvor does not get ownership, but he can make a claim against the vessel for the value of his services. Under admiralty law the claim is against the vessel itself, not the owner, though this may be amended by state statute. Admiralty courts are usually generous in making awards but with old sailboats it is often not worth the effort or expense of litigation.
none of this really matter if you old school enough, you board the ship try to find the grog, get really drunk proceed to put your pirate vessel on the boat and claim it as yours, then proceed toward tortuga for some hook ups and fresh disease!
That cowboy dog is naturally a cattle herding dog. Even a dog that has never worked cattle will figure out what to do when around other blue healers in just a few minutes. Great dogs.
Some people want to see how it works and we try and give certain aspects of what it’s actually like to be there and not just make a lot of music montages like so many other channels 🤷
@@SailorJames Yup that's my Triteia. It's tedius to say the least, getting an anchor from 55 ft by hand/mechanical, but that's how it is. You can't do that when someone gets hurt? Well, so You gonna do what? You gonna cut it loose when someone gets hurt? In my experience, You can do (and will do) everything what ranges under "good seamanship" when someone gets hurt, and weighing an anchor instead of letting it behind unless You're about to wash ashore with one of the the next three breaking waves is part of that seamanship. Good to have an electrical or hydraulic option, but even better to be able falling back on manual/mechanical in case things go pearshaped - seven looong minutes or not. Thanks for showing. Cheers
Good NZ morning James and Camille. Interesting episode this time. Just been brushing up on what International Maritime Law states. Obviously as you've correctly done, was notify coastguard. But from what i see, and please correct me if I'm wrong...and from what I'm able to observe, there did not appear to be any attempt to board the vessel to render assistance (if required) to any person or persons aboard. Unfortunately some sound was distorted so i may have missed a vital clue on what action, apart from notifying coastguard, you took in checking on the vessel and the welfare of crew aboard. Again thankyou for your videos. Take care and stay safe. A pat for Mr Steady. Atb.
We called out over and over and then contacted the coast guard, being that it was only 10 miles from shore the coast guard could have been on the scene very quickly if they had been concerned and if they had asked us to remain close we would have so no we didn’t do anything wrong and went beyond what many boaters would have done in that busy area
The law states that vessels should aid assistance “if it does not put your crew or your ship in danger” and in rolling seas our two masts could / would have became entangled and who knows if there are lines in the water that would prop our boats motor rendering us adrift as well in the middle of the shipping lane
@@SailorJames hi James and Camille. Have just read other comments and as I've already stated, the sound was distorted on my tablet. Which means I've obviously missed vital clues. Such as the note and being in a shipping lane. BTW the sound distortion appears to be a fault with my tablet. Damn.!! Maybe time to shout myself a new one. Again thankyou for your videos and for the hard work you put into producing them. Take care.
I understand how you think it was abandoned in the shipping lanel and left for the coasties to deal with....but if his intention was to rid himself of the boat wouldn't it be easier to just sink it offshore and not have the possibility of coasties knock on his door when they run the HIN numbers ?...I personally think there's more to the story, especially with the dingy still attached like that.....that note could of been more than just a note if you know where I'm going with this.... thanks for the journey Capt.
I have heard stories about sketchy marinas down there scuttling abandoned ships half way between LA and Catalina so it may have been left there by someone who wasn’t on the title ever, but my initial feeling was like yours, the dinghy aspect really disturbed me, the coast guards lack of concern was the only thing that made me think there wasn’t anyone on board
Maybe the Captain of the abandoned vessel was down below enjoying a nooner with his lovely first mate!!! Probably not, but that's what you should be doing:)
Hey dude I sailed solo for many years with hanked on jibs, I would really recommend doing whatever you can to raise the clams to get a roller furling, for yourself and safety. You can easily cutter rig a nice high storm jib if needed.
The fact that the dingy was still tied to the adrift sailboat leads me believing the owner was not safe ashore someplace and anchor shackle broke and boat drifted away.🥺
Since there was a not in the window And it was in the middle of the shipping lane my guess is someone intentionally abandoned it there and got a ride back on another boat, we couldn’t get close enough to safely read the note and the coast guard seemed unalarmed by the whole thing so I doubt there was anyone on board
What did the note say? Probably experienced sailor who anchored off Catalina, returning several hours later to find his boat was gone. Wouldn’t be the first time that happened.
We think someone intentionally abandoned it in the shipping lane so the coast guard would have to deal with the boat, maybe sick of paying slip fees or something who knows. It was too dangerous for us to get close enough to read the note and the coast guard didn’t ask us to stay in the area so we departed
I just found you guys a few days ago on here and watched several episodes and it's just been a wealth of information thank you very much and happy sailing oh and they're right about the shackle on your anchor but I'm sure you know that now
Boats adrift are just creepy. One crossing to Catalina from San Diego the USCG was warning of a partially submerged (bow sticking up only) somewhere between Catalina and San Clemente Island. I had to try and guess it's drift and keep a continuous, keen eye out. That boat you came across could could ruin someone's night or much worse if they did not pick it up on radar at night. Hence, why I use radar even on totally clear night crossings. Do you know what the USCG will eventually do about it, if anything? Dude, it might not be your style but, I'd consider putting a windless on your website wishlist. Other channels are pretty unabashed about what they put on their's. Perhaps a running donate to "my back's health" button, Lol. Good on ya for doing it the old fashion way until you get an electric windlass.
Thanks for the advice. I was thinking about upgrading my anchor chain to a larger size and your comment about it being unnecessary. It is winter in Ohio and I guess I am just missing being on the water and thinking up projects to do.
I’m in Ohio also. Cant wait to launch on Erie beginning of May my mighty Montgomery 17. My goal is Geneva to Sandusky mid-July cruising the Islands for a couple weeks.
James what type of windless is recommended for a boat like yours ? Also senate subject I was wondering do you have any fishing footage? Thanks in advance joel g
I am wondering what the details are behind that abandoned boat you came upon, anchor out and towing a swamped dingy does not sound good for whoever sailed it out there.
Your anchor is not rigged correctly. It needs a Clovis connection to the hole at the far end of the anchor backbone, the other hole should be tied with light weight sacrificial line so if your anchor is stuck the sacrificial breaks and the anchor will be easier to realease.
Lol, I'm glad you realise your mistake on the oversized chain, should have checked the breaking strength first, and you would see it is unnecessary. Plus now you have all that weight in the bow. Hand hauling is better on a ship under 40', much faster, and the weight of the tackle is less the volume of water it displaces, so really not so much. Chain and rode is also a good solution, you only need about 30'-60' chain. Also, never attach the swivel to the anchor, it creates lateral loads it is not designed for. Stick it on a meter of chain before the anchor.
Considering many cruising boats carry all chain or at least 200+ feet of chain What you are saying is simply your opinion and not some kind of facts, I will be replacing my 80ft of 3/8s with 250’ of 5/16 the added weight of chain greatly adds to your anchoring security and that small amount of weight in the grand scheme of a cruising boat is not an issued forward in the anchor locker , obviously otherwise millions of boats out there wouldn’t have anchor set ups on the bow
@@JCrook1028 the reasoning for all chain is to limit chafe ..the anchor connects you to bottom not the chain....used a combination of chain and rode for 40 years no problem but always an oversized pick.......sailboats are not designed to carry tonnes of chain 'up' in the prow, it was designed for rode.....do what many smart sailors do if you want to carry all chain and get it down in the bilge of the forepeak.........sailboats do not like weight up high.......yep many do it wrong, because they have no idea or are day sailors........go ask the racers and see if their lugging around chain and anchors up on the bow......I know I don't..... "In strong wind situations when elasticity is needed most a chain rode will provide absolutely no energy absorption. Chain does not stretch, and when the wind picks up it literally goes bar taut, transferring all the shock loads caused by wave and wind action directly to the anchor and deck fittings. This may in turn cause the anchor to break out or a deck fitting to fail." To negate this effect snubbers are used...thus, we get back to the chaffing issue. Plenty of info out there, enough said.
@@pearlyshells2430 Racers aren't cruisers living on the hook. We aren't on a racing boat channel now are we? Totally different mindset. Yea ofc they want less weight. A cruising boat weight isn't the main consideration. YMMV.
Consider a length of chain, a few links, between your swivel and your anchor. It appears the swivel is binding where it is attached directly to the anchor.
For one the seas could slam the boats together and dismast my boat, for also there could be lines in the water that could get in my propeller disabling my engine. If the coast guard hadn’t already known about it I might have swam to the boat
More likely someone didn’t want to pay the marina slip anymore so the abandoned it in the shipping lane to make it someone else’s problem. That why the coast guard were unconcerned when we called them
I would have tried to hail them on 16, then blow a whistle or sound the horn. Could have fallen and hurt themselves, heart attack or something minor, like slipped and bumped their head. Drop sails, motor close enough not to tangle the masts and launch the dingy w a crew of two, then row over. That's what I would want someone to do if it was me. Hope they are okay. Too many sailors solo without wearing PFDs and jacklines / harnesses. Stupid. The deployed anchor is odd, where would they be anchored off LA? Surf and winds too heavy & steady to be near the beach, which would push you on the beach.
The coast guard had known about it already when we called it in so since they did not instruct us to assist , being in the middle of the shipping lane is a hazard, they were so far from any anchoring spots my guess is it was abandoned on purpose
@@SailorJames My grandfather and Uncle are CG. Unless you are solo sailing, get your ass on that boat to confirm if anyone's injured and if so, help them out. At least get the dinghy up to it and have a look in FFS. What would you want someone to do if it were you in there with a broken arm after a fall?
Again, we were 9 miles from the coast guard station , they already new about the call, we were in the middle of the shipping lane of one of the busiest ports in the world and our dinghy was deflated and rolled up on deck, of the coast guard was concerned they would have asked us to remain in the area, so don’t try and act like we did anything wrong because two vessels in the shipping lane, especially two sailboats who can’t move quickly is a hazard to everyone.
@@gregm2074 smarty pants! the video was enjoyable how about chill its good for testy folks science lab dissecting is not necessary were you late for work because of the anchor Greg just sayin be nice Bruh
We did not board the boat as it would have put our boat at risk, if the coast guard would have instructed us to board and offer assistant we would have as it was we were already in a dangerous spot as it was directly in the middle of the shipping lanes, we believe it was an intentionally abandoned vessel
@@SailorJames In My opinion the well being of your boat & crew beat a boat that may wind you up in a problematic mess costing you more than gained not to mention put you in a crime scene litigation who knows the Coast guard was notified they could have been there in a jiffy ,if you rendered aid even As a retired Lt on VFD the person can sue the P out of you you did the best option notify CG & mind yours & be safe -you just don't know murder ,dope anything can drag you in the middle not worth it these days,even get you tampering with evidence its not like the CG just neglects stuff ,I think they knew the deal & if crime was involved cannot speak on it
For the vessel just floating in the water I might have wanted to possibly towed in for Salvage rights. But it makes me think with the dinghy behind it someone fell overboard. I really hope not but that's what it looks like to me.
Sailor James ... but would it have been worth the risk? That was a crazy encounter for sure. Love you vids btw.. I dig your style. Been following you for the past few months. If your ever in the Sea of Cortez, more specifically La Paz, keep a watch out for a 42 foot Tayana Vancouver called Beautiful Day. It would be our pleasure to share a cold beer and sea tale or two. Fair winds my friend.
@@bobbykirl7894 Bobby, curious as to how La Paz and Baja are doing with the pandemic? Do you know if US boats / citizens (coming from the US) are being quarantined, etc... Many varying stories are being told, but, I don't know if the folks telling them have recent, first hand experience with checking in, etc... Thx.
tvonzweck I left my boat here over the summer and flew to the states. Then I flew back in through Cabo just a week ago. I had no issues other than some extra customs steps to check temp and fill out a health form. As for boats coming in to Mexico, I have not talked to anyone who has recently arrived and was quarantined. We haven’t seen the Baja ha ha influx yet but I don’t see any quarantining nor have I heard anyone claim to have been. What I can say is that they are exercising restrictions in public places much like we are in most of the States. Most places open and welcoming. Masks required, distancing at restaurants etc. The marinas as well. However, Baja, with the exception of Cabo, has seen very low impact from the virus. Just around 500 cases here in La Paz. Population well over 200,000. Hope this helps.
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I don't care how many years someone have been sailing, coming up on something like that will always give you a little spook. Well done, Capt.
So spooky
@@SailorJamesso did you ever figure out what happened?
I mean obviously some tragedy, right?
People don't normally abandon a boat with a dinghy attached. With the anchor just hanging in 1400 feet of water, that would indicate the boat broke free from an anchorage and drifted. But people usually use the dinghy to travel ashore or to another boat. A dinghy with motor is not an insignificant cost. Some speculated the boat was abandoned. But people that do that open the seacocks and let them sink. Not the case here. The hanging anchor is the clue. But the attached dinghy is the mystery.
Yeah the whole thing was weird, my thought was if it had drug anchor and drifted I just don’t see how it could have gotten that far out and into the middle of the shipping lane with the coast guard dealing with it first , there is so much traffic in that area it would have been reported adrift far before reaching that zone
The person probably passed away in their sleep. And the body was still in there. If it were abandoned, the dingy would be gone
Crying out loud! Did my dock lines come undone again?! D:
I am such an empathy I get really nervous when I watch your videos! It's funny! But I love them!
I meant empath. That's auto correct!
Cool liked seeing the anchor retrieval part. Like you where saying if you did get hurt how difficult it could get. I just busted up and broke some ribs this weekend and thought about stuff like that. As always a cool video. Have a good week
44k views, 1k likes
I'm assuming we all wanted you to investigate the sailing vessel.
There are a few misconceptions here about salvage. The salvor does not get ownership, but he can make a claim against the vessel for the value of his services. Under admiralty law the claim is against the vessel itself, not the owner, though this may be amended by state statute. Admiralty courts are usually generous in making awards but with old sailboats it is often not worth the effort or expense of litigation.
Thanks for explaining that for everyone 👍🏻 in this case it for sure wouldn’t have been worth the trouble
What ever happened to "finders keepers", especially when the abandoned boat has better electronic equipment than yours does ? . .
none of this really matter if you old school enough, you board the ship try to find the grog, get really drunk proceed to put your pirate vessel on the boat and claim it as yours, then proceed toward tortuga for some hook ups and fresh disease!
Who says there will be litigation? In Canada, you notify the Receiver of Wrecks of your claim and often the boats are unclaimed, so you get it.
That cowboy dog is naturally a cattle herding dog. Even a dog that has never worked cattle will figure out what to do when around other blue healers in just a few minutes. Great dogs.
The best boat dogs ever
H James, I just subscribed but I have to say that 7 minutes of windlass cranking is more than I want to watch..
Some people want to see how it works and we try and give certain aspects of what it’s actually like to be there and not just make a lot of music montages like so many other channels 🤷
@@SailorJames agreed, it was very interesting to see that process.
@@SailorJames Yup that's my Triteia. It's tedius to say the least, getting an anchor from 55 ft by hand/mechanical, but that's how it is. You can't do that when someone gets hurt? Well, so You gonna do what? You gonna cut it loose when someone gets hurt?
In my experience, You can do (and will do) everything what ranges under "good seamanship" when someone gets hurt, and weighing an anchor instead of letting it behind unless You're about to wash ashore with one of the the next three breaking waves is part of that seamanship.
Good to have an electrical or hydraulic option, but even better to be able falling back on manual/mechanical in case things go pearshaped - seven looong minutes or not. Thanks for showing. Cheers
@@SailorJames its your Video & it was enjoyable bugger off naysayers
Thanks for showing how you haul up anchor, my sailboat has an old SL Hyspeed windlass similar to yours and it helped a lot seeing your process
Slow and steady wins the race (and saves the back)
Good NZ morning James and Camille. Interesting episode this time. Just been brushing up on what International Maritime Law states. Obviously as you've correctly done, was notify coastguard. But from what i see, and please correct me if I'm wrong...and from what I'm able to observe, there did not appear to be any attempt to board the vessel to render assistance (if required) to any person or persons aboard. Unfortunately some sound was distorted so i may have missed a vital clue on what action, apart from notifying coastguard, you took in checking on the vessel and the welfare of crew aboard. Again thankyou for your videos. Take care and stay safe. A pat for Mr Steady. Atb.
We called out over and over and then contacted the coast guard, being that it was only 10 miles from shore the coast guard could have been on the scene very quickly if they had been concerned and if they had asked us to remain close we would have so no we didn’t do anything wrong and went beyond what many boaters would have done in that busy area
@@SailorJames hullo again guys. Thanks for the reply. Interesting.
The law states that vessels should aid assistance “if it does not put your crew or your ship in danger” and in rolling seas our two masts could / would have became entangled and who knows if there are lines in the water that would prop our boats motor rendering us adrift as well in the middle of the shipping lane
@@SailorJames hi James and Camille. Have just read other comments and as I've already stated, the sound was distorted on my tablet. Which means I've obviously missed vital clues. Such as the note and being in a shipping lane. BTW the sound distortion appears to be a fault with my tablet. Damn.!! Maybe time to shout myself a new one. Again thankyou for your videos and for the hard work you put into producing them. Take care.
the old Wurlitzer.... Your music choice is much better now lol
I understand how you think it was abandoned in the shipping lanel and left for the coasties to deal with....but if his intention was to rid himself of the boat wouldn't it be easier to just sink it offshore and not have the possibility of coasties knock on his door when they run the HIN numbers ?...I personally think there's more to the story, especially with the dingy still attached like that.....that note could of been more than just a note if you know where I'm going with this.... thanks for the journey Capt.
I have heard stories about sketchy marinas down there scuttling abandoned ships half way between LA and Catalina so it may have been left there by someone who wasn’t on the title ever, but my initial feeling was like yours, the dinghy aspect really disturbed me, the coast guards lack of concern was the only thing that made me think there wasn’t anyone on board
Maybe the Captain of the abandoned vessel was down below enjoying a nooner with his lovely first mate!!!
Probably not, but that's what you should be doing:)
I sure hope so !!!! Nothing like sex in the middle of the shipping lane 😂
@@SailorJames 🤣🤣
@@SailorJames 😆
Kool enjoyed watching
Love the blue healer giving out the orders
Hey dude I sailed solo for many years with hanked on jibs, I would really recommend doing whatever you can to raise the clams to get a roller furling, for yourself and safety. You can easily cutter rig a nice high storm jib if needed.
This video is 4 years old
The fact that the dingy was still tied to the adrift sailboat leads me believing the owner was not safe ashore someplace and anchor shackle broke and boat drifted away.🥺
Since there was a not in the window And it was in the middle of the shipping lane my guess is someone intentionally abandoned it there and got a ride back on another boat, we couldn’t get close enough to safely read the note and the coast guard seemed unalarmed by the whole thing so I doubt there was anyone on board
@@SailorJames Marina fees due with a lack of payin' jobs ahead brings people to inventive solutions ....
Great stuff.
Love the channel. 👍🏻
I know it's what I wanted to see: Almost 7 minutes of raising an anchor.
You are welcome then
I once watched an anchor raising for an hour and 12 minutes.
🤣
Your the best
What did the note say? Probably experienced sailor who anchored off Catalina, returning several hours later to find his boat was gone. Wouldn’t be the first time that happened.
We think someone intentionally abandoned it in the shipping lane so the coast guard would have to deal with the boat, maybe sick of paying slip fees or something who knows. It was too dangerous for us to get close enough to read the note and the coast guard didn’t ask us to stay in the area so we departed
What story about the Ghost Ship did ever come out of it?
I just found you guys a few days ago on here and watched several episodes and it's just been a wealth of information thank you very much and happy sailing oh and they're right about the shackle on your anchor but I'm sure you know that now
Boats adrift are just creepy. One crossing to Catalina from San Diego the USCG was warning of a partially submerged (bow sticking up only) somewhere between Catalina and San Clemente Island. I had to try and guess it's drift and keep a continuous, keen eye out. That boat you came across could could ruin someone's night or much worse if they did not pick it up on radar at night. Hence, why I use radar even on totally clear night crossings. Do you know what the USCG will eventually do about it, if anything? Dude, it might not be your style but, I'd consider putting a windless on your website wishlist. Other channels are pretty unabashed about what they put on their's. Perhaps a running donate to "my back's health" button, Lol. Good on ya for doing it the old fashion way until you get an electric windlass.
Matbe you can turn this into a video game with this music - wow....
Tow it and claim the salvage rights. Sell or keep its all yours.
Yeah buddy, free boat!
They already have a boat
Did you find out anything about the boat that was adrift?
Um, crickets.
You need to put a shackle on the swivel. That will prevent side loading on the swivel causing it to break.
Abandoned ships creep me out.
My imagination just takes control.
what a great trip-
thanks again for sharing it all-
Thanks for the advice.
I was thinking about upgrading my anchor chain to a larger size and your comment about it being unnecessary.
It is winter in Ohio and I guess I am just missing being on the water and thinking up projects to do.
I’m in Ohio also. Cant wait to launch on Erie beginning of May my mighty Montgomery 17. My goal is Geneva to Sandusky mid-July cruising the Islands for a couple weeks.
James what type of windless is recommended for a boat like yours ? Also senate subject I was wondering do you have any fishing footage? Thanks in advance joel g
God it must be bursting with 4 on board.
I am wondering what the details are behind that abandoned boat you came upon, anchor out and towing a swamped dingy does not sound good for whoever sailed it out there.
seeing this now, I think I remember a bunch of those coast guard radio calls. so creepy!
I’m jealous. 👍👍👍
Your anchor is not rigged correctly. It needs a Clovis connection to the hole at the far end of the anchor backbone, the other hole should be tied with light weight sacrificial line so if your anchor is stuck the sacrificial breaks and the anchor will be easier to realease.
so what was the story of the ghost ship? Couldn't you read the ships name/#'s and look it up the online?
Lol, I'm glad you realise your mistake on the oversized chain, should have checked the breaking strength first, and you would see it is unnecessary. Plus now you have all that weight in the bow. Hand hauling is better on a ship under 40', much faster, and the weight of the tackle is less the volume of water it displaces, so really not so much.
Chain and rode is also a good solution, you only need about 30'-60' chain.
Also, never attach the swivel to the anchor, it creates lateral loads it is not designed for. Stick it on a meter of chain before the anchor.
Considering many cruising boats carry all chain or at least 200+ feet of chain What you are saying is simply your opinion and not some kind of facts, I will be replacing my 80ft of 3/8s with 250’ of 5/16 the added weight of chain greatly adds to your anchoring security and that small amount of weight in the grand scheme of a cruising boat is not an issued forward in the anchor locker , obviously otherwise millions of boats out there wouldn’t have anchor set ups on the bow
@@SailorJames Yes. The chain is what holds you. Ignore anyone telling you to not use chain.
@@JCrook1028 the reasoning for all chain is to limit chafe ..the anchor connects you to bottom not the chain....used a combination of chain and rode for 40 years no problem but always an oversized pick.......sailboats are not designed to carry tonnes of chain 'up' in the prow, it was designed for rode.....do what many smart sailors do if you want to carry all chain and get it down in the bilge of the forepeak.........sailboats do not like weight up high.......yep many do it wrong, because they have no idea or are day sailors........go ask the racers and see if their lugging around chain and anchors up on the bow......I know I don't.....
"In strong wind situations when elasticity is needed most a chain rode will provide absolutely no energy absorption. Chain does not stretch, and when the wind picks up it literally goes bar taut, transferring all the shock loads caused by wave and wind action directly to the anchor and deck fittings. This may in turn cause the anchor to break out or a deck fitting to fail."
To negate this effect snubbers are used...thus, we get back to the chaffing issue.
Plenty of info out there, enough said.
@@pearlyshells2430 Racers aren't cruisers living on the hook. We aren't on a racing boat channel now are we? Totally different mindset. Yea ofc they want less weight. A cruising boat weight isn't the main consideration. YMMV.
@@pearlyshells2430 Also yes you're right, chain does not stretch, it does lift off the bottom tho which has the same effect of absorbing energy.
Can it be claimed as salvage ?
Sind das angst Schisser ! Was auf den Meer treibt darf man behalten !
You found the Nina!
Consider a length of chain, a few links, between your swivel and your anchor. It appears the swivel is binding where it is attached directly to the anchor.
Yeah I have since corrected this issue with a large shackle
What are the reasons to not go on board of that boat? I woul`ve definitely done that. (I`m not a sailor)
For one the seas could slam the boats together and dismast my boat, for also there could be lines in the water that could get in my propeller disabling my engine. If the coast guard hadn’t already known about it I might have swam to the boat
Enjoy the video and hope to see many more from you
so did you ever figure out what happened?
I mean obviously some tragedy, right?
More likely someone didn’t want to pay the marina slip anymore so the abandoned it in the shipping lane to make it someone else’s problem. That why the coast guard were unconcerned when we called them
So , what was the story on the abandoned boat ?
There could have been someone aboard having a medical episode, why didn't you investigate?
Because I contacted the coast guard, that’s their job, they said to not board
10:30 ghost ship, your welcome
Iwould have boarded it for sure. What if someone needed help. Whats so scary about a body in there? People are strange.
There is nothing scary about a body in there, the Coast Guard calls the shots not citizens
James, What are the salvage rules there? Could you have claimed this boat for yourself?
Yeah we could have for sure but I have enough projects with my own boat 😂
Sailor James That’s not how salvage works.
I would have tried to hail them on 16, then blow a whistle or sound the horn. Could have fallen and hurt themselves, heart attack or something minor, like slipped and bumped their head. Drop sails, motor close enough not to tangle the masts and launch the dingy w a crew of two, then row over. That's what I would want someone to do if it was me. Hope they are okay. Too many sailors solo without wearing PFDs and jacklines / harnesses. Stupid.
The deployed anchor is odd, where would they be anchored off LA? Surf and winds too heavy & steady to be near the beach, which would push you on the beach.
The coast guard had known about it already when we called it in so since they did not instruct us to assist , being in the middle of the shipping lane is a hazard, they were so far from any anchoring spots my guess is it was abandoned on purpose
@@SailorJames My grandfather and Uncle are CG. Unless you are solo sailing, get your ass on that boat to confirm if anyone's injured and if so, help them out. At least get the dinghy up to it and have a look in FFS. What would you want someone to do if it were you in there with a broken arm after a fall?
Again, we were 9 miles from the coast guard station , they already new about the call, we were in the middle of the shipping lane of one of the busiest ports in the world and our dinghy was deflated and rolled up on deck, of the coast guard was concerned they would have asked us to remain in the area, so don’t try and act like we did anything wrong because two vessels in the shipping lane, especially two sailboats who can’t move quickly is a hazard to everyone.
And thats why you dont put your swivel direct to your anchor!
Finders keepers
Dangeous salvage boat position. Period
Really.... 7 mins of hauling up anchor....
If you are impatient sailing is not the activity for you my friend
@@SailorJames I do sail... I think I sail more than I anchor.
@@gregm2074 smarty pants! the video was enjoyable how about chill its good for testy folks science lab dissecting is not necessary were you late for work because of the anchor Greg just sayin be nice Bruh
finders keeper
Note to self. Dogs eat puke! 🤘😎
It’s not worth anything flag it as a broken mooring drifter
So what happened to that boat?
No clue, I am guessing the coast guard had it towed out of the shipping lanes
Was that wildfire smoke in the sunset at around 13:50 or so?
We have so many fires in Southern California that I can’t recall if we had one going in July, very possible for sure
not a fun way to deal with an anchor.
7 minutes of hauling anchor?
If only RUclips had a function to fast forward for people who don’t want to see real aspects of sailing
@@SailorJames I watched it! Its refreshing as opposed to other channels and I learned something. I also like to rewatch and pretend I'm there ❤️
@@SailorJames some folks just have to complain about something 🤗
Boat 🛥
Why don't you film boarding the boat what happened to the owner
We did not board the boat as it would have put our boat at risk, if the coast guard would have instructed us to board and offer assistant we would have as it was we were already in a dangerous spot as it was directly in the middle of the shipping lanes, we believe it was an intentionally abandoned vessel
@@SailorJames In My opinion the well being of your boat & crew beat a boat that may wind you up in a problematic mess costing you more than gained not to mention put you in a crime scene litigation who knows the Coast guard was notified they could have been there in a jiffy ,if you rendered aid even As a retired Lt on VFD the person can sue the P out of you you did the best option notify CG & mind yours & be safe -you just don't know murder ,dope anything can drag you in the middle not worth it these days,even get you tampering with evidence its not like the CG just neglects stuff ,I think they knew the deal & if crime was involved cannot speak on it
Wow….16 min video and ten minutes of pulling anchor…
You’re Welcome
For the vessel just floating in the water I might have wanted to possibly towed in for Salvage rights. But it makes me think with the dinghy behind it someone fell overboard. I really hope not but that's what it looks like to me.
It looks like the anchor is down in the water, I’m hoping the boat just drug anchor in a current or something and got swept away.
Well, that was anti-climactic.
That’s what she said
@@SailorJames Ha! Well played.
Salvage law?
Yep that nightmare could have been all mine 😂
Sailor James ... but would it have been worth the risk? That was a crazy encounter for sure. Love you vids btw.. I dig your style. Been following you for the past few months. If your ever in the Sea of Cortez, more specifically La Paz, keep a watch out for a 42 foot Tayana Vancouver called Beautiful Day. It would be our pleasure to share a cold beer and sea tale or two. Fair winds my friend.
Thanks for watching! We will be down there eventually for sure and will keep an eye out for you !
@@bobbykirl7894 Bobby, curious as to how La Paz and Baja are doing with the pandemic? Do you know if US boats / citizens (coming from the US) are being quarantined, etc... Many varying stories are being told, but, I don't know if the folks telling them have recent, first hand experience with checking in, etc... Thx.
tvonzweck I left my boat here over the summer and flew to the states. Then I flew back in through Cabo just a week ago. I had no issues other than some extra customs steps to check temp and fill out a health form. As for boats coming in to Mexico, I have not talked to anyone who has recently arrived and was quarantined. We haven’t seen the Baja ha ha influx yet but I don’t see any quarantining nor have I heard anyone claim to have been. What I can say is that they are exercising restrictions in public places much like we are in most of the States. Most places open and welcoming. Masks required, distancing at restaurants etc. The marinas as well. However, Baja, with the exception of Cabo, has seen very low impact from the virus. Just around 500 cases here in La Paz. Population well over 200,000. Hope this helps.