U.G. Krishnamurti - Nothing Perfect, Nothing Enlightened
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Books on U.G. Krishnamurti:
Mind is a Myth - amzn.to/3erGeYi
The Courage to Stand Alone: Conversations with U.G. Krishnamurti - amzn.to/3enKIiU
This Dog Barking: The Strange Story of U.G. Krishnamurti - amzn.to/2ZnDG9m
49:43 "To be yourself; you DON'T have to do a thing."
Photo of UG is taken by Julie Thayer in Bangalore India.
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If there is one single speech of UG that summarises his essence it will be this one
When UG talks in this way he is really appreciable.
Saying nothing and yet very eloquently.
@@bryansuarez2396 bob Marley
“Keep on talkin’, Mama; I like the sound. It goes so easy with the rain fallin’ down...” - Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
A REAL MAN I HAVE EVER HEARD
I am totally in love with this man. Even if it is only a 4 letter world but I can´t feel anything else when he speaks
quite intriguing and yet compelling to listen to
"Therefore" compelling. "Yet" would indicate a surprising connection rather than an obviously complimentary one. Same goes for alas. Alas indicates a negative, but I find many people use it to indicate a positive.
And if you are going to judge me for correcting grammar as being useless or part of the game etc then don't use language to do it 😜
Culture and language are agreed upon rules that while being ultimately arbitrary are necessary for basic communication and cooperation. No escape.
There isn't a single atom in the universe that is in the "wrong" place. There isn't a single being that is enlightened or unenlightened. All there is is what there is. Do not take seriously what the gods made for fun. The point is to dance while the music is on.
we all have a hard time dancing to the music that is playing for us. if it was easy it wouldn't be interesting. one of the best pleasures in life is when your pain and frustration come close to defeating you, then you let go of trying to win!
trying to escape from pain is precisely the pain. i am aware that this sounds abhorrent to everyone who is in pain. there is no option but to surrender fully and let pain do as it wants with us. life is suffering, you already knew that.
This is why it's important to understand that all these gurus and "enlightened" people are full of shit. UG Krishnamurti is no exception, for he was playing a role just as much as anybody else. Ultimately, we all play precisely the role that we want to play.
I still think resistance to pain is futile. And not only that, it acts as a positive feedback mechanism that exacerbates the pain. If pain wasn't a problem, we wouldn't be trying to get away from it and we certainly wouldn't need gurus or monks or what have you. Yet these very people insist that life is pain and there is no problem to be solved. This begs the question: why do gurus and monks exist to begin with? Isn't the very notion of "teaching" people how to deal with pain hypocritical, since they say there is nothing that can be done?
I won't pretend to know the answer to these questions. Yet my delusional self still thinks that pain is not a problem, and nor is anything else. Even breathing is not a duty, why should anything else be a duty?
shaygahweh what is pain? It's just a signal that you label. But in the end, the body does not need to label a sensation as pain. It can handle itself. Pain is a thought attached to a sensation.
this guy helps me with my mental illness, perfectionism, ahah). He gives me good and healthy vibes :)
In the Diamond Sutra Shakyamuni Buddha asks Subuti: "Does the Buddha have an teaching to put forth?
-No, not to my understanding."
Beautiful beautifull beautiful natural world now
Every time I listen.... I feel.... UG creats new problem& by answering he interrelate so many irret finally nothing
Irrelevant, finally nothing
Nice sound quality!
I wish all the talks were this good
@@merrymeditation same !! I wish I could hear all the videos as clear as this one 😀
Awesome truthful words!!
32:43 Exactly !! That Sabasaychi Guha guy is repeating what UG says like a broken tape recorder.
Also there is a lady called Unmani. It's so funny to watch her trying to copy UG.
Moment to moment now
Elsewhere, UG had said that there is nothing called enlightenment and here in this episode he says there are very few enlightened people in this world ; so there is such a thing called enlightenment after all, it has to be, but it has no religiosity or mystical quantity to it ; in other words, being in one's natural state is our true nature ; trying to be something or someone other than what we are is our problem ; due to wrong identification of mind and body to be ourselves is the root cause !
Indeed my friend. Actually it's much more of this kind self denials in UG's speeches. IMO the reason of this is the fact that UG felt into words trap - he tried to explain almost everything by words, what is impossible because primo - too many things are untranslatable to any language (yep, I know that he mentioned it sometimes - that's why I wrote "almost", but this "almost" is still to close to "to many") and secundo - he seems to didn't recognize (or at least emphasize) the paradoxical (!) nature of everything, which - as a way of "looking" at things - can change your whole way of thinking/behaving/responding/living/functioning (you name it).
BTW in fact... everything what I just wrote does and doesn't matter at the same time hahaha :P ;) (because at the very end you choose YOUR OWN meaning/purpose of it). Greeting and best wishes for all of you! =]
P.S. OFC I find myself very pleased by UG's thoughts and haven't any asks for him at all :). He was such an honest "biorobot"! :)
I noticed the same thing and I was gonna question it, but then I saw your comment and found the answer.
And what exactly are you? There is no escape. You are already in the game. At a specific time and place. In a specific genetic and cultural matrix. The real point is to give up any search because it is futile. Survival is the only game. Philosophy and religion and science deals with the outer edges of what can be known by the human being. Enlightenment is the realization that the ultimate cannot be known, while the seekers of enlightenment seek that very thing. Give up. No escape.
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Such is the curse of being a loner outside of a spiritual tradition. Countless people within the dharmic traditions have worked out a framework over millennia, and it's valuable. Ignore it, and it's easy to lose the way.
@@edgepixel8467 So Therevada Buddhism is the way?
He was so beautiful ❤️💞
This one is deep
thats up to you
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What you mean by new experience? You say we experience by the ideas encoded in our brain called memory. So, even those interpretations were not new in the past! It was just interpretations based on the previous interpretations. As a result, mankind has started interpretating the world at a point in his history. But that was not new too. So, the way you define something new result in we are livinng in an illusionary world
think or say anything you want - word salad is the game and UG was a master of word salad
Useless dog barking
In summary: It’s futile. This is what we would best accept, according to UG.
Enjoy the ride!
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13:08 - 36:03 - 48:59 - 22:55
if there is power, i want to be the most powerful, if there is happiness i want happiness without a single moment of unhappiness, and he just says, that happiness without a single moment of happiness is impossible, but i want it, where do i go from there?
Make nothing of nothing..😊
11:22 I think, turn them into "zombies" would work to use as a word there because we already are robots 😔
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Nothingness
bollocks
For an anti-guru, he sure does like to hear himself speak. A lot.
"There is no ME anymore, I just have to use the grammar" is a lot of bullshit. All the self-worth self-congratulatory mechanisms are there, in plain view, fed by all the attention he received from others.
Who cares lol
@@Xgjigzigzyixiy apparently you cared to comment
listen to a few more of his talks/interviws,etc., in order to get a more accurate idea of where he's "at"..he is,after all, trying to express the "inexpressible"!
Useless dog barking