U.G. Krishnamurti - Spiritual Quests are Nonsense
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
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I have been watching this video for 7 to 8 years.
It's still not old. Which means it is timeless.
"Thought is fascist by nature" - this is profound!
He is filled with profundities - whether the real-estate is a piece of heaven or a beachfront property, the goal is the same! To acquire a piece of the pie!
I have an existential crisis with each of his talks and videos I watch - its becoming almost boring.
Similar has been said by jiddu and david bohm.
Sure if ur 12
@@wendigo2442if only he could have been non influential...like u
UG has got to be the most honest man I've ever heard talk. He is an impeccable speaker.
This man is certainly speaking with experience and authenticity
J Krishnamurti prepared a ground which was used by U G to deny every religious authority including that of J Krishnamurti. His intention, like J K,also was to keep his listeners free from the unwanted influence of all authorities .In his later years he even told his listeners to take what he says as the barking of a dog so as to keep them uninfluenced by what he says.
Even the Buddha asked to question everything, inclduing himself. That was 2.5 thousand years ago, but not that humans have changed much. JK was useless, no one really understood what he was blabbering about, so they started thinking he must be saying something great! UG is nothing but a naturalist, but he always gave the impression that he has known and understood everything, so would just reject or negate anything that he could not explain. And he did bark a lot, that is, said a lot of unnecessary bullshit. Of couse, if you told him that his ideas were nothing but naturalism then he would have said something lile "no, no, all those naturalism etc. are just bullshit spread by some useless bastards".
My favorite dog. Woof Woof.
It's good to hear Dame Edna Everidge quoted. A greatly overlooked fount of wisdom...
Ug is a universal teacher, a total freedom, a age- less human.
He figured out life and it's games. He saw right through it.
U. G.. Krishnamurthy sir was Real Hero.
"And the mad people have given up," That'll be me then. :)
How many years have you tried to seek for enlightenment ? I'm just curious not being mean or something
Absolute objectivity...UG brings in you and I and them only for functionally communicating the matter. Otherwise, egolessness, as we know it as absence of boundaries, is abundantly evident in UG's being
He probably comes out as angry, because nobody got his message at that time. He makes many valid points and probably got tired to repeat the message.
I don't think so. He clearly had a bitteress and grudge towards people who were considered "gurus" or "spiritual masters". I have never heard him speaking about anything without name calling and reputation bashing, In fact 75% of his talks are about others and how they are wrong and how they are all con men. The rest 25%, he said what is essentially naturalism, but he thought he was ingenious.
My guru
Pain is the Healer.
Wow 😲
Enlightenment is not a thing to reach and achieve.
JK is eloquent while UG is blunt. Remarkable iconoclasm.
My wife is eloquent, while my mistress is blunt.
Right said, I love both
Both ug and jk are great
JK is too boring...
JK had a dichotomy inside of himself, and never appealed to me at all. UG is the goat.
Welfare of the next cell is the First Step to Come back to the Planets Well Being...,
Awesome...
16:48 is what the pursuit is all about
Must watch this video everyday. Thanks for uploading
forget spirituality it is all bollox !
not all forms. but hinduism sure is. he didnt know about true spirituality, he was criticizing all stupidity coming from ramana maharish and the stupid bs
@@infinitytraveller7772 all forms of spirituality is bullshit. No single exception.
Arjun The origin of "spiritual" is the Latin word spiritus meaning breath.
Are you sure that all forms of spirituality are bs?
Just a question :p
Yes, just like music, arts, sports, love. Essentially everything that is "human" is "bollox". Just eat, sleep and copulate - that's what the body is for.
I have no idea what this dude is saying
Which means you actually understand 👍
@@krissifadwa no the opposite
There is nothing to understand
Understanding that there is nothing to understand. Which leads to giving it up. Now, go and be a human.
We have to understand... should understand everything.. but iit should not influence your actions.. that further means strangle hold of thought shouldn't be there
Jiddu speaks through him. Absolutely Wonderful. And yet, even all this spiritual quest is just nonsense, that's what helped him to get to this 'natural state'. Or better said, the end of the spiritual quest, but there was a spiritual quest in the beginning. So in the end, is not nonsense at all. So from what I can see, he is not against "spirituality", he is against the word-spirituality, against the meaning of it into our society and against the sheep mentality of humanity. If we stop giving meaning to anything, to the spiritual quest, to the so called enlightenment, If we could stop the process of thought, than something would change in us and we would go back to the natural state. But here is a paradox, and that is that we have first to realise with the help of thought that thought is the illusion, and that we are better without it as in our present state, and like this we find if we look, different methods that help us to break the thought structure. The thought is aware that the it has to collapse in order to function better. Ramana said that once one "attain enlightenment", what will remain will be like a dead tree but still rooted in the earth. It takes time untill the dead tree really falls. UG is the "dead tree".
Everything thing he talks about is is just the present moment which is fast to realize by the mind bCuz if the mind or thought stays in tha split second it stays new always
30:55 ⚡️
5:23
Not everyone is looking for permanent happiness as UG is stating. He makes people feel embarrassed for trying anything. And what about him and his decades of searching for enlightenment. And when he clearly discovers it, he denies its existence and states he cannot help anyone and the search is futile for anyone else. This is apparent in all of the videos. The man is clear, but blemishes so many others.
He does the right thing though. He knows that they will get over-attached to whatever he says or recommends basically. In a manner of "you want this? you can have it when you don't care about it no more". Not that he can give anyone anything, but "inspire" towards that goal. I think he did the right thing and never created a cult or a following of people not ready and who'd just begin to bicker among each other in the same manner followers always do after their "guru of choice" passes away. U.G. was too good for this game. He has the nukes and cannot say anything about it to people who will use them for every small aspect of their lives - not realizing it's just a safety measure =)
By the way, U.G. was not a road model at all, look at his family life and relationships. Much of what he talks about, or more has the attitude about, is a way to rationalize his choices in life. We all do that, but we can take a moment out of it. Call ourselves for what we were, what we are and look forward to what we can become.
Ron Smid : as far as i capture UG's sayings is :
He cannot help anyone AT ALL , because what happened to him ( if so true ) is a *highly individual + UNIQUE* occurrence.
CAN'T BE COPIED OR REPEATED AT ALL.
"NO assembly line for such things !" he said ...
Either it *hits* you or it doesn't .•°
🤦🏽♂️if you clearly observe whatever you do is for happiness only hence you are looking for permanent happiness
Liar, ofcourse it's for happiness. You think you will be satisfied and happy when enlightened. You think enlightenment is something to reach and achieve. So you stay in pain.
@@lecturesbeyondbeyond There's no such thing as achieving enlightenment. There's only unlearning the bullshit. We are already enlightened.
No gurus
Wow. Just pure quantum mechanics going on.
How?
Quantum mechanics (Bell’s theorem) assumes statistical independence (free will). If you don’t accept that you instead have superdeterminism. Quantum mechanics is an approximation based on a false assumption.
4:22 religious idealism is a drug fr
What year was this recorded?
Hunter McDonald He said he was 72 years old. He was born July 9, 1918, so this was sometime between July 1990 and July 1991.
Based on this logic, I should never have given up heroin!!! .... Hehehe
Congratulations, well done!
Lectures Beyond Beyond Haha thanks!!! That was a kind comment to receive this morning ❤️
No you should've never given up. Because he wanted you to realise something more. He doesn't believe in saying this is bad or that is good. He wants you to give up on this illusion, that there's a you which wants something either good or bad. The body simply doesn't care for all this. It is put here to live and it shall do that. Once we get rid of the you or the I, then there's nothing called your addictions or my addictions. Everything is blown off. It doesn't come by accepting anything or rejecting anything. It is simply there.
@Sam 👍🙏
Heroin is not the answer or solution. It will only harm your body or your bank account. It creates addiction. Better not to have addiction, attachment or dependency on anybody.
real spiritual people do not like this world
Real spiritual people do not deny the world as nothing excludes his real nature
I get the "gist" of what you are trying to portray. We all have our paths in life and a being focused on spiritual connection is no better that a being focused on human desires. But I do have this one thing to relay. If personal wealth outweighs your belief in God then either you are on the wrong path or perhaps this is something you may learn in your next lifetime. Money can bring about many great things if used properly but the greed factor can destroy even the purest of hearts and minds.
Almost All humans are severely greedy. It's a fact. Has religion changed this? Nope.
***** Of course. Greed is Ego. And Ego is also dependency. Standing on one's own two feet emotionally and financially is often going against the Ego.
+Nicki LovesDogs Ditto!
Both are beliefs. No belief is True. To accept one is to open the flood gates and accept them all. To differentiate beliefs is shadow play, there is none. The mechanism that fuels the belief in God, shares the same platform as the one that fuels the belief in material gain. Whatever your notion; whatever structure of belief you erect on top of Self is secondary to the unequivocal fact that the Self is false. That's the subtext.
Regardless of all else, this isn't something you study, this is extreme skepticism. This is where philosophy stops, because philosophy would eat itself alive. It kills philosophers, and theres no glory in making a study of it. It's your life on the chopping block.
ImaGo- Ry Terribly arid, dry to the core, but nevertheless, TRUE!
It is the mind which has embodied the Soul, for mind’s own pleasure and pastime.
Physical eye is the medium that uses to power of Sight of Soul, that eye feeds mind.
When Soul attains freedom from Mind and Body, Soul regains freedom, sight to see in all the 10 directions. Pure one pointed concentration itself is Soul, a portal to other dimensions.
UGK reacts, trapped in/with his own state of mind.
wrong channel here - Sir .•°
@@lepomirbakic4422 : the ooG that can be talked about , is not the ooG ☝️.•°
Lmaooo
You are entitled to react and you just did.
@@akashjyoti1650 Reaction is mental, reflection is from the Soul, resound is from the embodied entities.
:)
Sounds bitter and salty.
truth generally is
It sounds bitter and salty because you have accepted sweet and fruity as the good or acceptable taste.
Bitter and salty could be another like but since it is not a cultivate like or taste it disagrees with you. Bitter and salty could be good. Some people like vinegar salty chips or bitter pale ale or sour pickles or even marmite. Taste is cultivated over a period of years.
That's your perception.
How?? with his sweet voice and energy, and all smile with true peace. This man tell true few people can get it or even understand. He sound vivid and viril, not talk soft without life like many others.
i cant help but to be so turned off by his lack of
peace and such anger and resentment in his speech and tone,
i just get way too many negatives vibes from this guy.. like he is bitter.
+George Vartanian Inorder to see what he say , you may need lots of courage. The Negative vibe is created in you . Why? Because your mind do not like what he says. He says the fucking absolute truth. No sugarcoating.
I can explain any question on UGK in detail way. But you need to remove your ego before that. Also hide your belief system and ready to get abused.
Why abuse? Because in order to show human problem , you need to use strong weapon to go against conditioned mind. To wake up the slave mind you need to induce accident (abuse).
There is something you must understand , you , me or ugk all are same level. We just have different context.
he is right, he has a right to express his view, you seem to be very ignorant. I dont even know why I waste my time
soundofm135#### # I am not prescribed to UGK argument. I only said i can explain. I do not believe UGK in everyway. But some ideas resonate.
Degree on UGK ? hahaha.
Useless.
So what you understand what UGK says. What happen next?
Will you be next UGK?
You must take a dump next day.
WHat you achieve is able to remove self doubt.
That is all.
What you do with your life is your problem if there is any.
To be free is easy , you have to be extremely honest to a level that will kick out "conditioned self"
that's funny cause to me he is nice, kind :)
i love his voice and his clarity of thoughts
i can't feel cruelty in him nor hate
if anything he looks detached
exactly!
this is just a typical atheist view. anyone can play this role. just unleash all the anger, hatred, lust and jealousy in the world, and see what happens.......
All of that is happening already and only 1% are atheists.
+Nicki LovesDogs To the "core" of it all!
Cheers!
Nicki LovesDogs Damnnnnnnnn you got em
trye
Onyx 2K I must be so bad ass. :0/
Ug is a universal teacher, a total freedom, a age- less human.