@@Zee-ob1pepulling stuff out ya arse. we’re not struggling at all, his financial meaning he knows how big he want to go. he’s an artist and engineer, we don’t need the government for anything.
Unfortunately for her, she should have requested the marriage BEFORE the kids. He honestly has no reason to marry her now. He already got want he wanted. What I don’t understand about people is the fact that they are OK making kids together, but not getting married. Having a child with someone is a soul tie for life, marriage can be divorced.
@@Rome.Carter I hope so because she deserves it… but just know that having a child with someone is a bigger deal than getting married, and you guys have 3. You are not a bad guy, but I hope that you figure out what’s holding you back and come to terms with it for your family’s sake.
@@Rome.Carterhopefully ur daughter can find someone that can commit to her. Just remember girls always marry their father. Set a good example for her or she might end up with 5 kids unmarried begging a man to marry her on national tv
Because they really believe having a baby will force a man like that to commit to a marriage. It never works. It’s obvious he doesn’t want to marry her. She just doesn’t get it. She’s foolish. The fact that she’s been putting up with this for years I mean come on.
Right, she's been either pregnant or recovering from pregnancy for the last 5 years straight... she's tired sir and nearly died having the last baby and ur complaining about intimacy? Ugh, make this make sense. I feel so sorry for that girl 🥺
@@malikastoneright , looking at the track record of men complaining about intimacy after child birth , I’m now considering sperm donor . That’s emotional abuse to feel unworthy during that transition.
She's a placeholder. Even her risking her life to make the children doesn't make her "the one". In my opinion she probably is the best woman for him but he thinks there's going to be better in the future. Having children does not mean you have a family.
So, he's afraid of the commitment of MARRIAGE but not the commitment of having 5 kids???? She needs to tell him "No rush to marry me but my uterus is SHUT TF DOWN until I'm someone's WIFE"
@@mybadcuh0_0 only low value, low hanging fruit type of dudes would. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One man’s “fine asf” is another man’s “she’s alright” .
@@CartersRUs. you don’t have to be Christian to go by marriage first. That being said, You’ve already had 3 kids, go on and have more or stay unmarried because y’all do love and care for eachother...trying to force marriage after 3 kids (not even the first) is unnecessary baggage. also you’re aware of your trauma hope you’re actively dealing with it 🙏🏾 God bless
Yeah no, kids are a huge commitment. If you want someone to continuously push out children for you, even when she almost lost her life with the last one, the least you can do is give her a ring. But then again, I would hate to be given a “shut-up” ring. Like a ring that a man would give me because I keep asking for it. I’d want him to give it to me on his own terms but I feel like, if he doesn’t give it to her eventually, then she should leave. At the same time though, if he were to give it to her anytime soon, I’d assume it’s a ring he’s given her so she’d go ahead and stop asking about it.
That is so true!! My last partner wanted to have a child I was willing to compromise and when I became serious about getting married and have a commitment, that’s when he wanted to switch and say “we weren’t ready”. I’m proud to say that I let that situation go, because he ended getting someone else pregnant and she left him with the child. He did me a favor, because he made room for my husband to find me 🥰
Black women yes…I’m mixed and my child’s father tried playing me like that….I told him I would not put up with that and guess what? 15 years later and babies came after not before
Probably would’ve felt how she felt after the first one. Doesn’t make sense for a man to say he’s not financially stable enough for marriage, but financially stable enough for 3-5 kids? That makes no sense
Yes it does marriage kids and a wife and all of those bills are expensive because you're paying for most things as a man...that's way more expensive than just kids but he shouldn't have kids without marriage but you
TBH! He doesn’t feel the need to take that step since they already got the kids. She’s just gonna have to deal with it if she wants to continue being with him.
Well, as long as she is self loving... That's a lot better than investing in a relationship with no return. There's nothing wrong with being a single mother... It'll be hard but she looks like she can do it.
@@felicous this is the comment right here. She chose to keep her babies with the man she loved and expected to be with forever, and he's still there. She did nothing wrong but of course the blame and accountability goes to the woman. Her kids arent an accident so these comments on how she waited 3 kids too late before the ultimatum are just ignorant, but again she wanted to be a mom and he wanted to be a dad, And being a single parent doesn't mean the other parent isn't involved
@@johnmills5205If he’s not going to marry her, yes walk away…….& the way they were looking at each other, he’s not going to marry her. It’s too much awareness around marriage to be playing them games…. Yes walk away. If he wants her, he’ll do what it takes to keep her. It’s not just him in the relationship 😢People are always out for SELF & Rarely for the THE WHOLE DYNAMIC!!
He wants her to push 5 kids & then he'll abandon her, find a lady with no kid or only 1 or 2kids & marry her. He knows most people won't be with anyone with 5kids... Unless those are adult kids. He wants her trapped. & she's a fool, a real fool to allow such. She's allowing her body to be used for his wants, whilst she gets nothing. What an idiot. At 23 too🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Too young to have so many kids so soon. Needed time to really get to know each other. It’s not too late but it’s going to take a tremendous amount of deliberate work on their part. Communication is extremely important and add counseling to the mix. I pray they make it. They’re a beautiful young family.
Too young to have kids but our or at least plenty of peoples grandparents made a way for 5 or more kids regardless her kids don’t need for nothing because her mom and dad can support them
@@angieboo3966Because men advocate for men even though it's obviously hurting the young women involved. Women naturally want security and that's what marriage offers. The young woman's natural instincts are kicking in which is why she doesn't want to have intercourse for months. A man can't expect certain benefits if a woman doesn't feel safe or secure.
Not financially stable enough to get married.... Buuuuuut we have 3 kids already but I really want 5. Sounds like this was thought through brilliantly👍🏾
@@scottiemo7 my oldest will be 23 in June.....I told her to finish her schooling, do something you enjoy and just travel the world and live life🤣🤣🤣 Apparently kids aren't happening......I said thats fine with me kiddo🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
@@MissTiffyTiff Awww I’m happy she’s happy doing what she enjoys and you’ve created a safe space for her to be her authentic self as she navigates through this world and finding her way, especially at her age. I’m not mad at her!! lol go girl!!!! 🩷
He literally wants the 5 kids, then leave her, since he knows most men won't want her. Many people in general will be cool with 1-3kids max, bec they also contribute financially. However, this woman is really stupid. She's young, beautiful & probably did well at school... & she didn't realize after the 1st kid, that this bum isn't going to marry her? She must love herself bec this is embarrassing AF! Why TF is she pushing out so many kids at 23? Honestly she's an idiot. & she will regret it once she's 30, with 5 or 6 kids, no ring, no other life experience & no cultivating other relationships in life, bec she wasted her entire youth on this bullsh1t.
This girl is beautiful inside and out. She’s a whole catch. Her bd is out of his mind if he doesn’t put a ring on it. She gave you 3 kids, loves you and is loyal and a beautiful woman what else does he need. Know your worth sis ❤
Being that she almost died, having the third one, she don’t need to have no more children. Just go ahead and be done with having children you’re out here, putting your life on the line to bring these children into the world and he won’t even propose to you and marry you. There’s absolutely something wrong with that. I hate to break it to you, but you’re gonna have to take your children and get you self together and going by your business. Nothing grinds my gears and pisses me off more than a man is willing willing to do fatherhood, but not marriage. This was about tying her down and installing her.
Exactly. I hate women who are willing to risk their lives AGAIN after a near death experience. Like, they don't give a sh1t about the living kids, that usually have a horrible upbringing, usually tossed to the side, end up sexually, physically, mentally & emotionally abused by other people & they're usually made fun of, bec they're told their mom didn't want them & would've rather risked dying than to raise them. This lady isn't getting sh1t. That guy is probably gone already
SheniceSays you said it all exactly the way it is! Women die in childbirth. They’re blessed with 3 kids so don’t risk your life. I don’t think he even really wants more. It just ties her down.
You cannot pressure a man to marry you. It will never happen. She should have thought about this prior to having kids with him or at least after the first.
As a woman who told her husband(Then boyfriend) that I was done playing the role of wife, I was prepared for the outcome. When you give an ultimatum be prepared to stand on what you said. I don’t know if it’s the wrong time I was one kid in at the time.
@@CartersRUs.I believe he cares. Y’all both are very young. Y’all should’ve just done things different. Sorted y’all issues out before having kids and the beautiful lady should have got a ring first but it’s too late for “should have dones and what if’s”. Everybody fate is written and those babies are beautiful. I hope y’all do better for their sake even if y’all don’t end up married and end up moving on
@@CartersRUs.I understand you. It seems like he wants to be in a good space before getting married, never mind the fact that yall are young and it is a big leap to get married. However him wanting to have kids before marriage can be seen as immature or selfish but I honestly think that’s his way of saying “I love you, I wanna marry you, I’m here” but that’s just me I’m only 17
She put herself in a bad situation. He isn’t gonna propose. He may not need to. They don’t even know if they are compatible. But they keep creating life. STOP!!!!!! Being 24 with 3 kids is insane. Find yourself and get on birth control-ASAP!!
My daughter is 29, single, no kids, and great career. She dated but finding the right man is hard but she isn’t setting. When she sees red flags she walks away. She spends her off time traveling.
The problem is, I am scared of people who do not understand how life-threatening childbirth can be - how difficult pregnancy and birth are in general. Being pushy to have 2 more children while she almost died in her previous birth experience is absolutely uncaring and totally disrespectful, in my humble opinion. The same rule would apply if she didn't almost die, but was too exhausted, disinterested, or afraid to have another baby. The overarching concern is why he would even press the issue of she wasn't ready and willing.
This is the sad reality in our community, so much single mothers, the Kendra G dating show, really highlight this 😔 as they are so many single mums with very young children & fathers gone 😩 please ladies, marry before you carry
I’m literally sitting here watching this episode and crying my eyes out because next month makes five years since I’ve been married to my husband and we just came out of this very situation where we both were overwhelmed with working so much that it was causing a toll on our marriage And life and things were happening just like them. We are a lot older than them and the reason why I got emotional is because we too have three children. They look just like us in the situation, and when he said “words of affirmation“ is what he needed. He sounds exactly like my husband. I see the love there between the both of them, but I really do apply the fact that they realize if they’re not ready financially not to jump into marriage, but yes, granite: they do have children already before marriage. I’m really proud of them though and just pray and wish them the best!
Women always told me only have the amount of kids you can take care of by yourself! I never listened to them, after a man told me that it’s like a whole new curtain was opened. Only have the amount of kids you can take care of by yourself!!!!
That's why I'm an virgin and ain't been in an single relationship refuse to give something so special to an random bum that's saved for someone I'm in love with and married to
@@xxarianahiltonxx5116 it wasn’t a bargain. She wants him more than he wants her. She would’ve given him children even if he was against it. The bottom line is, he never told her the kids will come with marriage. He doesn’t want to marry her. And that’s why they’re on the show. Every woman that gives birth is risking their life. It’s been that way since the beginning of time. She’s not special for giving birth. Yall can knock that off right now.
@@SRT_DRElol yes but they’re are plenty of women who struggle with having kids or would dump those babies in his lap and walk away. So yes, she should be special to HIM for having HIS kids and taking care of them while still loving on him. Y’all act like having a good woman to birth your kids is a given. He should consider himself blessed.
Even if she dies all she wants is to be his wife, damn bro that's sad... As a man, come on brah step up this women is yours and all she wants is for you to acknowledge her..😢 your lucky to have her and would be stupid to lose her... Us as men gotta do better in a situation like this.
This is why you should get married before you have children. If you’re not ready to marry someone, how could you possibly be ready to have a child with them? Also, having a child with a man doesn’t mean that he’ll stay, or do what you want him to do. Talk about what you wish to do in life before you take a step that leaves you permanently attached.
Girl, you already gave him 3- he’s not gonna marry you. You mean to tell me you almost died after the third child and he still didn’t value you as the woman with whom he wants to spend the rest of his life?
@@carmenmorales277 May not be true to you yet it's true for a lot of other females and every persons situation is different. You cant look at it one way, because you've never had kids with another man. Other women do. You were fortunate enough to have a man stay with you and have beautiful babies too. That's what a real man does and if more men had that type of a mentality and say hey, "This doesn't sit with me well." But most people don't think like that.
@@carmenmorales277 I agree I been with my partner for 10 and we have kids! I do want a ring and he knows that. I am treated well in the process. Plus he is an amazing dad! I say do what works for you!
I love Karamo, but honey Children comes with a whole set of stuff that you don’t even realize-and this coming from a 27 year old married since 18, had my first child at 20. We knew we wanted to marry but we both acknowledged and realized we weren’t ready to have children, because we were still figuring ourselves out. Being a parent and bringing children into this world don’t even compare to a marriage. Parental responsibilities are way more heavier than Martial responsibilities.
All of this stuff shoulda been considered before having her push out three humans and then having the nerve to ask for more just to keep being ATTACHED to her. He don't care.
That goes both ways. If that was really the future she wanted then she should of have had solid boundaries on use protection intell they are truly ready, put in the work and is married befor have 3 kids
It’s not too soon to get married they already have 3 kids and he wants 5 kids when he’s not financially stable with the kids they have. He just doesn’t want to marry her.🤷♀️🤦♀️
*If you have to get marriage through an ultimatum…* chances are that person doesn’t want to marry you. If it happened naturally then there would be no coercion or threats involved.
It’s a shame bc they probably won’t work out, then she’ll be out there w a bunch of kids looking for a new man. And let’s be honest, she’s beautiful but men don’t usually take on 3+ kids by another dude. Shes seriously limited herself at such a young age and it’s sad 😢
@@marimarielove he seems like a nice guy but something kept him from committing to her fully Maybe he just doesn’t feel it The soul feels what the mind ignores Idk 🤷🏻♀️ But there are men who commit and treat women badly so idk 🤷🏻♀️
They’re very cute and have a beautiful family.. they’re young and can get it together. But these conversations really need to happen before kids. No one else can heal you. It’s your job to heal you.
I loved the energy from this. If this is any reflection of what their “real life” is, that proposal is coming. They appear to be a great couple. I wish them the best. 💚
Why he trying to make that young man seem all wise, mature, and cautious when he had three kids and acting like he worried about the cost of a wedding? There was a show on years ago called The PJs with Eddie Murphy (it could not survive today). There's a scene where he's trying to talk his friend out of getting married. He says to him, "Getting married is a long-term commitment. It ain't like having no child." This thinking is how so many people operate.
Good luck to them. My parents had all 3 of us by 24 then got married a year after the last child. They just celebrated 40 years of marriage. And it was my mom that was putting it off, my dad said he was going to marry her the first day they talked on the phone. It can work out just fine.
Did we all watch the same show ? He gave valid reasons as to why he wants to WAIT to get married, he never once said he DOESN’T want to marry her. 3 kids is a lot before marriage but it’s ultimately their life and their choice. Two beautiful and respectful people trying to build a life together is all I see ❤️
Hold on😂😂 I love that Karamo is sending them out on dates but let's be real There's a 90 percent chance sis gon'get pregnant with their fourth child. Oooohhh Karamo 😂😂😂😂Karamo😂😂😂😂 Karamo😂😂😂😂
I was with a man for 11 years..who never proposed and said when the time is right he’ll propose. After this, he finally admitted he never wants to be married. I spent my 30’s & most of my 40s waiting..and he waited until 11 years to tell me he was never going to get married. He was also seeing someone for 15 years & someone else for 20 years..had I known he never wanted to get married I would have kept my options open. There’s no reason why she can give him kids and he can’t officially commit
Gonna be that guy again. Um, why would you give him ANY children without being married let alone THREE of them???then???? Three outta the five he wants, and NOW you want a ring????? Do people not have standards anymore?????
This young lady will NEVER get married to that young man. In that dude mind he already think this young women is his wife. In his mind y’all are married asf with those three kids and a dog. In his mind he knows you are undesirable to MOST bm with value. This young man knows you ain’t going no where so your false threats and ultimatums do nothing for him but get him annoyed. I get you love him. Get comfortable with the idea of being his life time gf.
She could potentially have birth trauma and that was completely ignored. That needed to be addressed directly. She had put her life on the line but he can’t give her something that is meaningful to her.
Karamo ALWAYS finds the good in the situation. me on the other hand... ladies LISTEN, if he wanted to then HE WOULD! he is in a good enough space to have a 1 year old running around plus 2 other kids BUT not in a space to get married. He see's her flaws and it's making him RUN. ladies, also listen to what the man is saying. It's impossible to hear if you're yelling or upset.
Karamo told her to be patient with him abt marriage since he had "concerns" about finances BUT he failed to tell that young man not to have more kids until they are ready to take the next step in marriage and togetherness and until they get their "finances" together. Karamo was hella bias with this couple. He clearly favored the guys opinions and not hers
I was waiting for Karamo to say something like that!!! You should’ve been in the audience to tell them that 🔥 How will dates fix the current situation they’re in?🤦🏽♀️ she wants marriage, he clearly doesn’t.
She’s making the right demand at the wrong time
That's the part far too many black women never learn from their Mamas.
& this is why I am strict beforehand. You want a baby? I want your last name. Don’t wanna give it to me? You have to go.
@@piggylipscomb8018 ?? Elaborate
EXACTLY 👍🏾
@@christaldewberry8442PERIOD
Let me look as pretty as her after 3 kids lord
wow thank you so much!
@@CartersRUs. don't let these comments get to you, you are beautiful
@@shytae67thank you! i may seem a bit bothered but only because i know they cut everything good that we said from the show to make it messy
She was never pretty in the face at all especially her teeth. You mean hopefully you will be this thin after having kids?
Yes, she is beautiful
He wants 5 kids. He currently has 3, but no financial security. 🙄
This is how people are now. They seek government help. It’s the hard working people that r paying for their lifestyle .
@@Zee-ob1pepulling stuff out ya arse. we’re not struggling at all, his financial meaning he knows how big he want to go. he’s an artist and engineer, we don’t need the government for anything.
1:23 @@CartersRUs.1:38
@@Indigaleven if she did what’s the problem? If what she east don’t make you shit mind yours brokie
@Zee-ob1pe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 but you are paying more for criminals, the wealthy, and for other countries... Make it make sense!
Unfortunately for her, she should have requested the marriage BEFORE the kids. He honestly has no reason to marry her now. He already got want he wanted. What I don’t understand about people is the fact that they are OK making kids together, but not getting married. Having a child with someone is a soul tie for life, marriage can be divorced.
I’m more than okay with getting married! It’s deeper rooted
@@Rome.Carter I hope so because she deserves it… but just know that having a child with someone is a bigger deal than getting married, and you guys have 3. You are not a bad guy, but I hope that you figure out what’s holding you back and come to terms with it for your family’s sake.
@@Rome.Carterhopefully ur daughter can find someone that can commit to her. Just remember girls always marry their father. Set a good example for her or she might end up with 5 kids unmarried begging a man to marry her on national tv
Exactly!
Because they really believe having a baby will force a man like that to commit to a marriage. It never works. It’s obvious he doesn’t want to marry her. She just doesn’t get it. She’s foolish. The fact that she’s been putting up with this for years I mean come on.
people LOVE making kids but be so scared of marriage 😂😂😂 shit is insane.
Wait I missed where he said he was scared, time stamp!
@@Rome.Carter my statement was a general one lmao
@daylovee I’m crying because that’s him on the show replying 🤣
@@Ashleyomega07 I just noticed that shit 😂😂😂
@@Ashleyomega07😂😂😂😂
There is a reason we used to sing “ first come love, second come marriage and third come a baby in a golden carriage”
HAHAHAHAAHAHA GIRL
Yeah I remember that play kid song 😮it makes soo much sense 🤔🤣
ours was first comes marriage then comes love then comes a baby in a baby carriage 😭
@@dayfly4004They always switching sum up now we gotta have golden carriages🤣🤣
YESSS
He doesn’t want to propose because he’s not ready “financially “ but want to keep having kids …
But 5 kids isn’t scary 😂
RIGHT
@@shaym754when you start spending money on them it is .. then yu go broke tryna provide for all them
Seriously, make that make sense !! 🙄🙄😳😳😳
I wanted to scream hearing that and Karamo slow self saw nothing wrong with that logic 🤦🏽♀️ whole segment was a mess
He worried about intimacy as a priority when she care for his 3 kids 😒 SHE IS TIRED SIR
Right, she's been either pregnant or recovering from pregnancy for the last 5 years straight... she's tired sir and nearly died having the last baby and ur complaining about intimacy? Ugh, make this make sense. I feel so sorry for that girl 🥺
@@malikastoneright , looking at the track record of men complaining about intimacy after child birth , I’m now considering sperm donor . That’s emotional abuse to feel unworthy during that transition.
If she doesn’t somebody else will😂
She's a placeholder. Even her risking her life to make the children doesn't make her "the one". In my opinion she probably is the best woman for him but he thinks there's going to be better in the future.
Having children does not mean you have a family.
Whoo you just preached a WORD. 💯
Facts!
As a man I can tell you, you are not necessarily right. Everyone's situation is different.
@@fromheaventoearth5779I agree I honestly thinks he just wants to be in a good place financially and overall before making the big step to get married
Ah 3 kids r a financial commitment already @@redvixo
So, he's afraid of the commitment of MARRIAGE but not the commitment of having 5 kids???? She needs to tell him "No rush to marry me but my uterus is SHUT TF DOWN until I'm someone's WIFE"
She’s not going to be anyone’s wife if it’s not him. Who out here marrying women with 3 kids? 😭
@@SRT_DREyou’d be surprised😂😂 a lot of people would, plus she fine asf
@@mybadcuh0_0 only low value, low hanging fruit type of dudes would. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One man’s “fine asf” is another man’s “she’s alright” .
It’s too late
@@SRT_DREplenty of men marry women with 3 kids this isn’t the 1900’s babe
He doesn't want to propose, but it was ok for her to risk her life having his kids...😢😢😢
Imagine
I was traumatized when she said "he's very understanding!"....how?
She should’ve thought abt that before 3
@@xoangelicaf0523 my thoughts exactly. Should’ve said that before 3 kids
Men don’t care about that. I have heard men say “it’s not my body, it’s her and she chose to have them.”
We have to stop pulling opinions from thin air!
MARRIAGE FIRST THEN KIDS!
@@CartersRUs. you don’t have to be Christian to go by marriage first. That being said, You’ve already had 3 kids, go on and have more or stay unmarried because y’all do love and care for eachother...trying to force marriage after 3 kids (not even the first) is unnecessary baggage. also you’re aware of your trauma hope you’re actively dealing with it 🙏🏾 God bless
Agreed!
I say make sure you have good money in your banks, good jobs, get married and then have kids.
Agreed
@@CartersRUs.That’s your problem. And you made the same choice three separate times. No foundation, no structure.
Yeah no, kids are a huge commitment. If you want someone to continuously push out children for you, even when she almost lost her life with the last one, the least you can do is give her a ring. But then again, I would hate to be given a “shut-up” ring. Like a ring that a man would give me because I keep asking for it. I’d want him to give it to me on his own terms but I feel like, if he doesn’t give it to her eventually, then she should leave. At the same time though, if he were to give it to her anytime soon, I’d assume it’s a ring he’s given her so she’d go ahead and stop asking about it.
And still won't marry her !!
@@mlm1916Yep, he got what he wanted so now he's just chilling
Men will string you along for decades without marriage.
That is so true!! My last partner wanted to have a child I was willing to compromise and when I became serious about getting married and have a commitment, that’s when he wanted to switch and say “we weren’t ready”. I’m proud to say that I let that situation go, because he ended getting someone else pregnant and she left him with the child. He did me a favor, because he made room for my husband to find me 🥰
Yeah, if you let them.
Not if u cut shit off. It’s up to women to peep game and move accordingly. People can’t do what you don’t allow 🤷🏾♀️
The only string you along if you allow it
Black women yes…I’m mixed and my child’s father tried playing me like that….I told him I would not put up with that and guess what? 15 years later and babies came after not before
So he's not financially stable and is overwhelmed, but yet want 2 more kids to make 5, how stupid can one get? - smh 🤦🏽♂🤦🏽♂
Probably would’ve felt how she felt after the first one. Doesn’t make sense for a man to say he’s not financially stable enough for marriage, but financially stable enough for 3-5 kids? That makes no sense
Yes it does marriage kids and a wife and all of those bills are expensive because you're paying for most things as a man...that's way more expensive than just kids but he shouldn't have kids without marriage but you
@@shorts26How is a marriage more expensive than raising children? Please do the math. I’ll wait.
@@shorts26explain your point because I don’t understand the difference
😂😂 right
@@shorts26how much does being married cost? Please enlighten me
People be so gunshy when it comes to marriage but so casually make one, two and THREE kids together…make it makes senseeeee
Exactly 🤦🏽♀️
Sorry you feel that way…
@Rome.Carter I'm sorry u would feel dat way
Right! I don’t get it. You can get a divorce if something go wrong, you can’t get rid of your kids lmao
@@Rome.Carter What he said is the truth! It's not about how he feels
Unfortunately it’s two or three kids too late chile. But best of luck to her and her kids-she’s beautiful!
TBH! He doesn’t feel the need to take that step since they already got the kids. She’s just gonna have to deal with it if she wants to continue being with him.
You absolutely right girl. What grandma say? 😂 A lifetime supply of milk without paying a dime for the cow! 🐮
Well, as long as she is self loving... That's a lot better than investing in a relationship with no return. There's nothing wrong with being a single mother... It'll be hard but she looks like she can do it.
Exactly even before the first child she should have been like.............
@@felicous this is the comment right here. She chose to keep her babies with the man she loved and expected to be with forever, and he's still there. She did nothing wrong but of course the blame and accountability goes to the woman. Her kids arent an accident so these comments on how she waited 3 kids too late before the ultimatum are just ignorant, but again she wanted to be a mom and he wanted to be a dad, And being a single parent doesn't mean the other parent isn't involved
She shouldn’t have had 3 kids for him. If he wasn’t trying to marry her after the first one, she should’ve left.
So leave him because a ring not because he cheating or puttin his hands on her yea this world is sick
@@johnmills5205leave him bc you have standards & he’s not meeting them sir
@@johnmills5205If he’s not going to marry her, yes walk away…….& the way they were looking at each other, he’s not going to marry her. It’s too much awareness around marriage to be playing them games…. Yes walk away. If he wants her, he’ll do what it takes to keep her. It’s not just him in the relationship 😢People are always out for SELF & Rarely for the THE WHOLE DYNAMIC!!
why would i leave the man that i love? that’s treating me amazingly? please go on -Nia
That part.
So he wants her to have five kids on his terms but doesn't want to propose on hers. This couple needs a lot of help.
He wants her to push 5 kids & then he'll abandon her, find a lady with no kid or only 1 or 2kids & marry her.
He knows most people won't be with anyone with 5kids... Unless those are adult kids. He wants her trapped. & she's a fool, a real fool to allow such. She's allowing her body to be used for his wants, whilst she gets nothing. What an idiot. At 23 too🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Unfortunately she's 3 kids too late. He may be a good guy but he clearly doesn't wanna be married.
Not to her he won’t be married
Literally why I’m celibate no marriage = no sex = no kids end of convo. No man is worth that bs
Same here
Amen ❤
Same
Do you want to be with someone ?
Same! April will be my one year anniversary of being celibate!
Too young to have so many kids so soon. Needed time to really get to know each other. It’s not too late but it’s going to take a tremendous amount of deliberate work on their part. Communication is extremely important and add counseling to the mix. I pray they make it. They’re a beautiful young family.
Thank you so much! We’re working towards that as we speak
@@Rome.CarterIt's really You????
I see that you have a youtube channel and you also sing.
@@Rome.CarterAlso 5 kids are too many for your age right now.
What kind of job do you both do,cause you'll need LOTS OF MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF 5 KIDS.
Too young to have kids but our or at least plenty of peoples grandparents made a way for 5 or more kids regardless her kids don’t need for nothing because her mom and dad can support them
@@biancamarie5181 right!
Baby momma/kids: 100% FINEEE… marriage: WOAH WOAH I NEED SOME TIME WTF! ….Karamo bye you gave him crazy amount of grace
Facts
I’m still trying to see the love and respect that karamo is talking about. He’s normally on target but he’s so far off the mark with this couple.
@@angieboo3966Because men advocate for men even though it's obviously hurting the young women involved. Women naturally want security and that's what marriage offers. The young woman's natural instincts are kicking in which is why she doesn't want to have intercourse for months. A man can't expect certain benefits if a woman doesn't feel safe or secure.
Agreed. Bad advice
If a man hasn’t propose to you he has no intentions on marrying you why have kids by him make it make sense
The majority of the comments on channel are by single mothers!
Not financially stable enough to get married....
Buuuuuut we have 3 kids already but I really want 5.
Sounds like this was thought through brilliantly👍🏾
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@@scottiemo7 my oldest will be 23 in June.....I told her to finish her schooling, do something you enjoy and just travel the world and live life🤣🤣🤣 Apparently kids aren't happening......I said thats fine with me kiddo🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
@@MissTiffyTiff Awww I’m happy she’s happy doing what she enjoys and you’ve created a safe space for her to be her authentic self as she navigates through this world and finding her way, especially at her age. I’m not mad at her!! lol go girl!!!! 🩷
@@scottiemo7 Awwwwww....ty so much🤗
He literally wants the 5 kids, then leave her, since he knows most men won't want her. Many people in general will be cool with 1-3kids max, bec they also contribute financially.
However, this woman is really stupid. She's young, beautiful & probably did well at school... & she didn't realize after the 1st kid, that this bum isn't going to marry her? She must love herself bec this is embarrassing AF! Why TF is she pushing out so many kids at 23? Honestly she's an idiot. & she will regret it once she's 30, with 5 or 6 kids, no ring, no other life experience & no cultivating other relationships in life, bec she wasted her entire youth on this bullsh1t.
This girl is beautiful inside and out. She’s a whole catch. Her bd is out of his mind if he doesn’t put a ring on it. She gave you 3 kids, loves you and is loyal and a beautiful woman what else does he need.
Know your worth sis ❤
Being that she almost died, having the third one, she don’t need to have no more children. Just go ahead and be done with having children you’re out here, putting your life on the line to bring these children into the world and he won’t even propose to you and marry you. There’s absolutely something wrong with that. I hate to break it to you, but you’re gonna have to take your children and get you self together and going by your business. Nothing grinds my gears and pisses me off more than a man is willing willing to do fatherhood, but not marriage. This was about tying her down and installing her.
Exactly. I hate women who are willing to risk their lives AGAIN after a near death experience. Like, they don't give a sh1t about the living kids, that usually have a horrible upbringing, usually tossed to the side, end up sexually, physically, mentally & emotionally abused by other people & they're usually made fun of, bec they're told their mom didn't want them & would've rather risked dying than to raise them.
This lady isn't getting sh1t. That guy is probably gone already
SheniceSays you said it all exactly the way it is! Women die in childbirth. They’re blessed with 3 kids so don’t risk your life. I don’t think he even really wants more. It just ties her down.
Definitely, finding any way to "keep" her until he comes across someone else, or simply just settled for her thinking he won't find anything better
You cannot pressure a man to marry you. It will never happen.
She should have thought about this prior to having kids with him or at least after the first.
They were not ready to have kids
It’s too late now they 3 kids in
And she should’ve brought some gay men around him FIRST. …She’s a beard!
As a woman and a single mother of one child, all i can day is that we need to control our fertility!
One child may have been a surprise, but after that, you don't even want to talk about marriage???
First off she is stunning !!!! 😍 secondly they make a beautiful couple and family. Wishing them nothing but the best
Aaaaand this is why marriage is supposed to come first.
If you can get marry you can get a divorce.
As a woman who told her husband(Then boyfriend) that I was done playing the role of wife, I was prepared for the outcome. When you give an ultimatum be prepared to stand on what you said. I don’t know if it’s the wrong time I was one kid in at the time.
Babe, you should never have to give a man an ultimatum to marry you… think about it…
Look at him smiling the whole time he’s in the back, that man don’t give a SHIT
LMFAOOOOO i swear he does
@@CartersRUs.You’re delusional. That’s why you’re in the position you are in. Wake up!
Sometimes people smile when nervous
@@CartersRUs.I believe he cares. Y’all both are very young. Y’all should’ve just done things different. Sorted y’all issues out before having kids and the beautiful lady should have got a ring first but it’s too late for “should have dones and what if’s”. Everybody fate is written and those babies are beautiful. I hope y’all do better for their sake even if y’all don’t end up married and end up moving on
@@CartersRUs.I understand you. It seems like he wants to be in a good space before getting married, never mind the fact that yall are young and it is a big leap to get married. However him wanting to have kids before marriage can be seen as immature or selfish but I honestly think that’s his way of saying “I love you, I wanna marry you, I’m here” but that’s just me I’m only 17
I Love the way KARAMO gets excited about LOVE, UNITY, RELATIONSHIP, HEALING & HAPPINESS.❤🙏🏼☝🏿🙌🏼
She put herself in a bad situation. He isn’t gonna propose. He may not need to. They don’t even know if they are compatible. But they keep creating life. STOP!!!!!!
Being 24 with 3 kids is insane. Find yourself and get on birth control-ASAP!!
You already gave him 3 without making that demand, in his head, why marry you now!😂
You gave him the milk before the cow.
It was quite delicious
@@Rome.Carteraggy lol
@@Rome.Carteryou’re a sad joke. Let that woman go find her HUSBAND 😊
@Moniethemom Exactly. She should have NEVER had a kid out of wedlock...No marriage NO BABIES. PERIOD 🙅🏽♀️😌
I’m 25 no kids enjoy life while you can !! They should’ve waited
Yaaas same I’m 24 yrs , congrats to us sis lol ❤
My daughter is 29, single, no kids, and great career. She dated but finding the right man is hard but she isn’t setting. When she sees red flags she walks away. She spends her off time traveling.
32, no kids YET! Not single, but I know my worth. Baby won't have his last name before me lol
I’m be 32 in September with no kids I’m enjoying life .
All in all, they are TOO cute! I wish them nothing but the best.
The problem is, I am scared of people who do not understand how life-threatening childbirth can be - how difficult pregnancy and birth are in general. Being pushy to have 2 more children while she almost died in her previous birth experience is absolutely uncaring and totally disrespectful, in my humble opinion. The same rule would apply if she didn't almost die, but was too exhausted, disinterested, or afraid to have another baby. The overarching concern is why he would even press the issue of she wasn't ready and willing.
no he stated that he doesn’t want 5 anymore because of the last pregnancy but of course it was clipped
@@CartersRUs. Ah okay, I did not see that. Thanks for clarifying!
This is the sad reality in our community, so much single mothers, the Kendra G dating show, really highlight this 😔 as they are so many single mums with very young children & fathers gone 😩 please ladies, marry before you carry
Or tell the men to marry the people they impregnate
Wait! She’s single?! I want her.
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I’m literally sitting here watching this episode and crying my eyes out because next month makes five years since I’ve been married to my husband and we just came out of this very situation where we both were overwhelmed with working so much that it was causing a toll on our marriage And life and things were happening just like them. We are a lot older than them and the reason why I got emotional is because we too have three children. They look just like us in the situation, and when he said “words of affirmation“ is what he needed. He sounds exactly like my husband. I see the love there between the both of them, but I really do apply the fact that they realize if they’re not ready financially not to jump into marriage, but yes, granite: they do have children already before marriage. I’m really proud of them though and just pray and wish them the best!
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Women always told me only have the amount of kids you can take care of by yourself! I never listened to them, after a man told me that it’s like a whole new curtain was opened. Only have the amount of kids you can take care of by yourself!!!!
That's why I'm an virgin and ain't been in an single relationship refuse to give something so special to an random bum that's saved for someone I'm in love with and married to
You ain’t missing ish out here guh 😂😂
Tell it! Beautiful!
That was beautiful said!!
Lie
Kudos to you girl! I was too til I was 27-took me that long to find somebody worth a damn 🤣 you’re doing it right stay strong 🩷
YOU DEFINITELY DESERVE A RING! KNOW YOUR WORTH!!!
She did her part now he needs to reciprocate
She did her part? WHAT? 😭😂
Coming soon😶🌫️
@@xxarianahiltonxx5116 it wasn’t a bargain. She wants him more than he wants her. She would’ve given him children even if he was against it. The bottom line is, he never told her the kids will come with marriage. He doesn’t want to marry her. And that’s why they’re on the show.
Every woman that gives birth is risking their life. It’s been that way since the beginning of time. She’s not special for giving birth. Yall can knock that off right now.
@@SRT_DRElol yes but they’re are plenty of women who struggle with having kids or would dump those babies in his lap and walk away. So yes, she should be special to HIM for having HIS kids and taking care of them while still loving on him. Y’all act like having a good woman to birth your kids is a given. He should consider himself blessed.
@@AliDunknoo she “should” be special to him. But guess what, she can’t be that special if he doesn’t want to marry her.
Beautiful couple, beautiful babies, blessings 🙌
Thank you so much!
I think they are perfect ..they just need one on one time. I see both sides of the story and they just need to keep working together ❤
He gave her her answer after the 1st kid.
Only Black women put up with this disrespect! Ladies DO NOT do this! Get the commitment first!! MARRIAGE BEFORE CARRIAGE!
That's not true.
Yup. In other cultures they wouldn't pull this BS...
Black women like her not the rest of us
There are many women in America in situations like this. It’s definitely not ONLY black women. Smh.
maybe let’s have these conversations beforeeee the kids are involved lmao
Even if she dies all she wants is to be his wife, damn bro that's sad... As a man, come on brah step up this women is yours and all she wants is for you to acknowledge her..😢 your lucky to have her and would be stupid to lose her... Us as men gotta do better in a situation like this.
Well said👏🏽🔥 she’s proven she’ll do anything for him.
This is why you should get married before you have children. If you’re not ready to marry someone, how could you possibly be ready to have a child with them? Also, having a child with a man doesn’t mean that he’ll stay, or do what you want him to do. Talk about what you wish to do in life before you take a step that leaves you permanently attached.
Girl, you already gave him 3- he’s not gonna marry you. You mean to tell me you almost died after the third child and he still didn’t value you as the woman with whom he wants to spend the rest of his life?
I love how respectful they both are
thank you, we love and respect each other more than anything
@@nialarie oh my gosh it’s a pleasure I hope you two are in a better place ❤️
Baby he don’t want you just move on
😂 damn
Ladies stop letting these men make yall baby mamas. If you dont have a ring on, he doesn't want you. Find a man that wants the same things as you.
This is not true I have 3 kid with my partner and we are together. For 20 years not married and he LOVESSSSS ME ❤
@@carmenmorales27720 year girlfriend? 😮
@@carmenmorales277 May not be true to you yet it's true for a lot of other females and every persons situation is different. You cant look at it one way, because you've never had kids with another man. Other women do. You were fortunate enough to have a man stay with you and have beautiful babies too. That's what a real man does and if more men had that type of a mentality and say hey, "This doesn't sit with me well." But most people don't think like that.
@@carmenmorales277LMFAOOOOOOO😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@carmenmorales277 I agree I been with my partner for 10 and we have kids! I do want a ring and he knows that. I am treated well in the process. Plus he is an amazing dad! I say do what works for you!
I love Karamo, but honey Children comes with a whole set of stuff that you don’t even realize-and this coming from a 27 year old married since 18, had my first child at 20. We knew we wanted to marry but we both acknowledged and realized we weren’t ready to have children, because we were still figuring ourselves out.
Being a parent and bringing children into this world don’t even compare to a marriage. Parental responsibilities are way more heavier than Martial responsibilities.
All of this stuff shoulda been considered before having her push out three humans and then having the nerve to ask for more just to keep being ATTACHED to her. He don't care.
Can I get a time stamp on when this was said
@@Rome.CarterDid you not watch the show?
That goes both ways. If that was really the future she wanted then she should of have had solid boundaries on use protection intell they are truly ready, put in the work and is married befor have 3 kids
THE WAY THEY LOOKED AT EACH OTHER!!! BLESS THIS COUPLE ❤❤❤ 12:39
Let's be patient?? They should've been patient on having those precious babies. I pray this couple makes it. 💜
It’s not too soon to get married they already have 3 kids and he wants 5 kids when he’s not financially stable with the kids they have. He just doesn’t want to marry her.🤷♀️🤦♀️
*If you have to get marriage through an ultimatum…* chances are that person doesn’t want to marry you. If it happened naturally then there would be no coercion or threats involved.
It’s a shame bc they probably won’t work out, then she’ll be out there w a bunch of kids looking for a new man. And let’s be honest, she’s beautiful but men don’t usually take on 3+ kids by another dude. Shes seriously limited herself at such a young age and it’s sad 😢
No phone unlocking, no lie detector test, no DNA test, no walking off stage, and no backstage drama.
It's a Karamo miracle.
no we respect each other too much
@@CartersRUs.check that phone
@@Moniethemom i can and i guarantee i won’t find anything. i can bet a band
@@CartersRUs. Delusional. Smh...
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They are so adorable and so are their babies. I hope he wises up and proproses. That was so nice of the host to pay for dates! Love this!!
She’s even gonna get pregnant again on that date 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They’re the most healthiest & respectful rela I seen on the show
If he isn’t ready for marriage, what makes you ready to have his babies?
So she’s a place holder who he keeps having kids with 🤦🏻♀️
Sadly you are probably absolutely correct
@@marimarielove he seems like a nice guy but something kept him from committing to her fully Maybe he just doesn’t feel it The soul feels what the mind ignores Idk 🤷🏻♀️ But there are men who commit and treat women badly so idk 🤷🏻♀️
He don't want to be forced into marriage ,but he force you to have more kids? Think again girl, he is selfish .
They are already into it. Give the children the stability.
Actions speak louder than words!
They’re very cute and have a beautiful family.. they’re young and can get it together. But these conversations really need to happen before kids. No one else can heal you. It’s your job to heal you.
Marry before you carry. I wish them luck!
I loved the energy from this. If this is any reflection of what their “real life” is, that proposal is coming. They appear to be a great couple. I wish them the best. 💚
No more kids until the ring!
Agreed!
Why he trying to make that young man seem all wise, mature, and cautious when he had three kids and acting like he worried about the cost of a wedding? There was a show on years ago called The PJs with Eddie Murphy (it could not survive today). There's a scene where he's trying to talk his friend out of getting married. He says to him, "Getting married is a long-term commitment. It ain't like having no child." This thinking is how so many people operate.
Good luck to them. My parents had all 3 of us by 24 then got married a year after the last child. They just celebrated 40 years of marriage. And it was my mom that was putting it off, my dad said he was going to marry her the first day they talked on the phone. It can work out just fine.
Beautiful 🔥❤️ your dad didn’t make excuses about marrying your mom unlike this guy 🤦🏽♀️
Did we all watch the same show ? He gave valid reasons as to why he wants to WAIT to get married, he never once said he DOESN’T want to marry her. 3 kids is a lot before marriage but it’s ultimately their life and their choice. Two beautiful and respectful people trying to build a life together is all I see ❤️
thank you! it seems as if they only watched the beginning of the show.
@@CartersRUs. Rooting for y’all 🫶🏽.. they acting like licensed therapist in these comments fr.
@@josephkendallliterally
Sometimes people’s actions state their intentions. Idc if he marries her or not. That’s on her 😅🎪
Wtf yall sick man totally sick and kids of these people ends up traumatized . How much does marriage certoficaye even cost . Wtf
Hold on😂😂
I love that Karamo is sending them out on dates but let's be real
There's a 90 percent chance sis gon'get pregnant with their fourth child. Oooohhh Karamo 😂😂😂😂Karamo😂😂😂😂
Karamo😂😂😂😂
I was waiting for Karamo to tell it like it is but he’s talking dates😂😂😂
I was with a man for 11 years..who never proposed and said when the time is right he’ll propose. After this, he finally admitted he never wants to be married. I spent my 30’s & most of my 40s waiting..and he waited until 11 years to tell me he was never going to get married.
He was also seeing someone for 15 years & someone else for 20 years..had I known he never wanted to get married I would have kept my options open.
There’s no reason why she can give him kids and he can’t officially commit
Gonna be that guy again. Um, why would you give him ANY children without being married let alone THREE of them???then???? Three outta the five he wants, and NOW you want a ring????? Do people not have standards anymore?????
Apparently not
ladies,stop letting these "men" off so EASY! let's keep it a BUCK! dey absolutely KNOW what dey be doin'! "men" ARE NOT COMPLICATED,AT ALL!!!!!🎯💯
This young lady will NEVER get married to that young man. In that dude mind he already think this young women is his wife. In his mind y’all are married asf with those three kids and a dog. In his mind he knows you are undesirable to MOST bm with value. This young man knows you ain’t going no where so your false threats and ultimatums do nothing for him but get him annoyed. I get you love him. Get comfortable with the idea of being his life time gf.
Damn.
They got me blushing too they are too cute 🥰 and seems healthy
Chile that man is not gonna propose no time soon she can get that out her head now 😂
Little do ya know…
@@Rome.Carteryou’re a lil delayed.
She could potentially have birth trauma and that was completely ignored. That needed to be addressed directly. She had put her life on the line but he can’t give her something that is meaningful to her.
Pls don’t have no more children at this point in time. 🙏🏾
This don’t make sense..these young people rush into grown up situations. Praying they find a solution 🙏🏾
She's gorgeous 😍
They are the cutest couple ever. THey will be good!!
What??? Don't want to take that step because of what.He wants the benefits.He is reaping the benefits.Baby, You need to move on.
Karamo ALWAYS finds the good in the situation. me on the other hand... ladies LISTEN, if he wanted to then HE WOULD! he is in a good enough space to have a 1 year old running around plus 2 other kids BUT not in a space to get married. He see's her flaws and it's making him RUN. ladies, also listen to what the man is saying. It's impossible to hear if you're yelling or upset.
Walking contradiction he’s saying he’s not financially stable to get married but somehow not financially stable to keep having kids
Premarital counseling would be a great step for them. I pray it works out and they get married!!
Karamo told her to be patient with him abt marriage since he had "concerns" about finances BUT he failed to tell that young man not to have more kids until they are ready to take the next step in marriage and togetherness and until they get their "finances" together.
Karamo was hella bias with this couple. He clearly favored the guys opinions and not hers
I was waiting for Karamo to say something like that!!! You should’ve been in the audience to tell them that 🔥
How will dates fix the current situation they’re in?🤦🏽♀️ she wants marriage, he clearly doesn’t.