My theories on the others opinions: Tasia: Hated them Jarek: Thought they were alright No-Face: 7/10 not enough fire. Kano: Was drunk. Kabal: Laughed his ass off Kobra and Kira: N/A due to time frame
I feel like a student in a history class about Mortal Kombat any time I watch these videos, helps expand my knowledge of the series. I thank you for that Mr. 4thSnake.
It's been clear for years now that John Tobias was the driving force being MK's story. And with him gone it's been in the hands of mediocre writers who are just phoning it in.
After Tobias you had John Vogel who expanded the universe of the 3d era. Afterwards we have the Netherealm era which has been explored on this channel throughly.
@@shawns860 It's very similar to Katsuhiro Harada (the director of Tekken since Tekken 4, and a major member of the team behind Tekken 3). Harada has essentially turned one of the most story driven franchises in gaming to a tournament experience. Whenever you look at the series after Tekken 4 you see how much the stigma of "story dos not matter in fighting games" is enforced when with characters that are simplified to the bare minimum of storytelling (Bruce Irvin went from a street grown pit fighter, to a mercenary with no memory after a plane crash that for Kazuya, to simply a guy that enters a tournament just to have fun. No concluding with Kazuya, no attempt to come to terms with who he was or why he left Kazuya's militia, nothing).
@@musicmodjoe2139 Man, I was never into Tekken enough to get into the story (really only ever liked 3. 2 would have been perfect, but it was too slow for me), but that is terrible. The people behind MK at least care enough to put a half-assed attempt into maintaining some continuity in lore
@@shawns860 Tekken 7 feels like an attempt at closure without understanding the concept. Much like MKX and MK11 members of the old cast are thrown to the side (or as dlc). Much like netherealm's MK games they are trying to give you a cinematic experience, but that layer of makeup covers gaping holes in the plot, in the character development and in the continuity. Here's an example: Ever since Tekken 3 Jun Kazama has been absent, in Tekken 4 she appears as a vision in front of her son's eyes (fair enough if we try to write a compelling character) and ever since than? NOTHING! Jinpachi Mishima was brought to the roster (as he was exisiting sound data in Tekken 4), and Asuka Kazama (essentialy a character model swap of Jun from tekken tag 1) was brought in (no connection to Jun or Jin, no nothing). Tekken 7 tried to be cinematic and conclude the story (how do you conclude a story when you bring in Akuma from street fighter and retcon him into the series?) Back to MK, I think netherealm follows the metal gear solid school of cutscenes (ie, voice actors carry the swiss cheese of a script, not the localization, just the original). MK suffers from the exact same problems as Tekken, Soul Calibur and other fighting games that talk cinematic but don't grasp STORY. The Midway era (punching bag supreme by Netherealm and by some of the fans) had its gaping holes from time to time (Shujinko aging but none of the roster's cast) but something remains that holds it together: Lore for characters, stages and endings that connect to the defeat of Onaga. Tekken doesn't do that anymore.
No, her full name is Cassandra Carlton Cagey, with Carlton becoming just a middle name. Johnny legally changed his last name to Cage. So he really is Johnny Cage.
The stakes of the tournament are hinted at in MK1, although not in the comic, but in the game's attract mode. It says that "the imperial court of immortals" invites you to compete in the tournament, the prize being "your continued existence".
@@jonasreis90 you've got no idea at how much I got annoyed with the story in 9, how the heck are you going to kill 95% of your legacy characters to create new ones that'll eventually get cut from your next game? Kombat kids are dumb and don't get me started on kassie beating shinnok, it makes no sense!
*but you see because Johnny beat shinnok 20 years beforehand, it’s obvious that his daughter who also has his powers conveniently to beat the more powerful version of shinnok*
I love that Liu Kang fishes Now have this image in my head of a younger Lui learning temperament, discipline and respect for life from catching fish at a pond near the temple. Tiny things like that inform character and I love it
Here's something everyone forgets! The fighters you pick from are said to be the ONLY SURVIVORS of the tournament at that point in the tournament. So there were many more, they just got killed beforehand. This is information you can find in the original game.
True, but it's not from MK2 not one. And these 7 kombatants weren't supposed to be tge only ones right from the start, seeing how there are many people attending the opening ceremony in the comic.
Deadly Alliance and Deception were a great change of the formula, both story-wise and gameplay-wise, MKD's Konquest Mode is still one of my favorite modes in any fighting game
Raiden's original story definitely got the shaft. In his arcade ending he goes mad with power and causes the destruction of all the realms. Bit polarising when one considers he tries his hardest to protect Earthrealm in (almost) every installment afterwards
@@Xehanort10he was going to be a protector god in development before becoming the more cocky like Raiden in the comic so the idea of Raiden being the wise mentor was there before
The tournament in MK1 was just a Shaolin martial arts tournament that Shang Tsung took control of. Liu Kang's goal was to defeat Goro and return the tournament's control back to the shaolin, which is apparent in his ending. The comic also says that Shang Tsung's motive is that he believes that Liu Kang's defeat at the hands of Goro will destroy any hope the shaolin have of taking back the competition. I believe Kano also takes control of the tournament in his ending. MK2 adds on that Tsung took control of the tournament to "unbalance the furies", which will weaken Earth's dimensional barriers and allow Shao Kahn to invade. So yeah, the tournament was VERY different. I think its current version was introduced in the movie. I'm also surprised you didn't mention the MK4 prequel comic. I've used some of the bio stuff in my own fanfiction series, such as Chow, where I've had him and Liu Kang reunite. I also changed Liu to being his surname, just makes more sense and for consistency. Great video as always, can't wait to see if you'll talk about the other prequel comics.
@@danieltarczynski6559 The attract more for MK1 showed character bios and a brief story blurb. This is how the latter goes: "A 2000 year old half-human dragon, Goro remains undefeated for the past 500 years. He won the title of Grand Champion by defeating Kung Lao, a Shaolin fighting monk. It was during this period that the tournament fell into Shang Tsung's hands and was corrupted." In MK1 and MK2 lore, the tournament was just an ancient shaolin martial arts competition that Tsung took control of. No Outworld vs. Earthrealm dynamic.
I hate how prominent that mindset is; that story doesn't matter. If there's no reasons for characters to even be onscreen together, then what's the point? Rule of cool can only go so far before you lose interest.
Man, Malibu comics had some really cool ideas that would be great in future adaptations or games. Baraka was a nominal good guy, a mutant fighting to free his people from the rule of Shao Kahn. Hell, in his own dedicated comic he's basically the Mandalorian, protecting this special child from Shao Kahn's minions. What makes that story really interesting is that just like in the Mandalorian, a mysterious dark figure comes in and takes the baby away to prepare for her destiny. Noob Saibot. Who in the comics had nothing to do with Bi Han, and was instead a shadowy hero. Bi Han was the final hero of the series, making the final win for EarthRealm at the cost of his life, while Scorpion was the villain, working for Shao Kahn to conquer. Sub Zero also had this cool arc where he had to overcome his fear of Scorpion. Kung Lao wasn't Liu Kang's second, no he's this lone wolf out to redeem his family's name and honor after the defeat of the first Kung Lao. There was Sing and Sang, the Order of the Light's chosen champions, two twins who would fuse into one being. What was cool about that was when one of the twins died, the other fused with him one last time, creating a half-dead warrior that could be controlled by Shao Kahn. Johnny had a cool body guard, Bo, and Raiden had two hot ninja chicks working for him. But the coolest thing was Kano. Specifically how he was more then just some scumbag that Sonya was hunting, that Raiden tried recruiting him against Shao Kahn. Kano screwed him over, but he was actually kinda remorseful about the act, and defied Shao Kahn by letting Raiden escape rather then kill him.
All that sounds actually pretty cool, makes a lot of the MK characters seem less generic and cookie cutter. I especially like the Noob and Bi-Han things though still prefer them being the same but its cool to see that at least in one universe, Bi-Han didn't become a jobber and is still as powerful as he was in life.
@@MysteriousTomJenkins I had an idea where the Soulnado rips Noob Saibot in half, resulting in the vengeful evil spirit that has all of Bi Han's negative qualities of coldness and ruthelessness while another has the noble qualities, and works as a mysterious agent of good. Maybe the good half also travels through time, like in the comic.
@@JoeChillton No even 3D era haters agree that Deception conquest mode was phenomenal for its time and a million times more consistent than modern MK lore
1:04 you used one of my favourite words! I knew I liked you for a reason. Honestly, I never played any of the MK games, too young, but recently the characters have interested me, in no small part to your work. I can’t imagine how irritating it must be to be a fan, but I hope eventually things start looking up.
3:53 This actually was retconned even before MK 2011 in MK Mythologies. At the end of the game Shang Tsung comes to Lin Kuei to personally invite Sub-Zero to compete in Mortal Kombat.
Its ironic how much thought and care went into the world,characters and story of the first MK game where it was made to be a violent spectacle to compete with street fighter and having no unique gameplay of its own. Now its inverse, the story is now treated as a spectacle with no substance that is also not being made with the proper care,thought or time but has its own unique gameplay being improved because them putting more thought,care and time into it
Zoltan Z the 3d games had unique gameplay but was never improved it had so much potential to be more in depth and unique than MK11 and could rivaled tekken. But I think unique is the wrong wording of MK11 gameplay I meant more than they made a fighting system more their own that they constantly improved upon since mk9 with combinations of other mechanics from other fighting games which again they could have done with the 3d games but never did
@@michaelhernandez7568 is it me or do they never give the 3d era a chance the characters either get killed or forgotton and the gameplay never brought up again to improve them a little
@@ShiftyGuy777i feel that too im constantly thinking the style system ever since they brought variations and also constantly wanting characters like li mei, taven.daegon,shujinko,and hotaru because of the fact they can make the system and characters of the 3d era work and be better than initially but know reduced to been either forgotten or just references truly wasted potential
Seeing people who only started playing mk9 say “bring back mileena” despite her being in a lot of games. Add this to them then saying “no you can’t have havik, he doesn’t have the back story or presence that mileena does” and it’s obvious you don’t actually know asking about the games.
Always a good day when I get a notification from The4thSnake!! Thank you! Also, I think it would be great to see you cover the realms in a future video/videos. Chaos and Order realms along with the potential plot and characters to be explored there. Also maybe a list of the forgotten 3-D characters you'd love to see make it back to the screen. Keep up the good work!
The Fighters Den is also a good channel for making videos on the old forgotten people. He has a series called "The Rise and Fall of....". And "RESPECT" where he brings up the feats of people when most people either didnt know or never talk about it.
Also when the fuck did people just decide that the 3D era was bad? Those games were extremely beloved and now we talk about them like the Star Wars prequels. It's asinine.
I honestly wouldn't take any of the Not Best Friend's opinions seriously since from what I have seen so far, they neither pay attention to stuff that well and they already seem ready to hate the 3D era so I don't see much value there. Also recently watched Mat play Armageddon Konquest and immediately turned off the video when it had Delia calling Argus by name and Mat said "So this is Jerrod." I already knew he'd have a negative opinion but that just shows where it'd come from, ignorance. Hell, in his MK11 playthrough he didn't even know why the Cyber Lin-Kuei would side with Kronika...maybe because Sub-Zero destroyed them all so they want a better future...? And he doesn't even have to read the comics, MKX I am pretty sure says this too.
Mortal kombat has never been there strong suit when it comes to fighting game lore (probably because by the time the 3D games came out they were playing guilty gear) but I feel Matt just talks out his ass even when he’s proven wrong literally seconds later
That´s such a bitchass attitude. And each of the Not Best Friends still have a lot of fans that just regurgitate the same opinions... It´s actually sad.
This video's name is going to confuse people in the future. It's a shame that Netherrealm can't even make something as simple as a title without fucking everything up.
My first MK game was MK vs. DC if you can believe it, but unlike most normies I actually went back and actively sought out the older games to understand the story and characters better and to get more of the gameplay I liked and see how it evolved over time, I still have my Classic Xbox and got Deception and Deadly Alliance I thoroughly enjoyed both and despite me vastly preferring the gameplay of 9 and X, the 3D era had undeniably better Worldbuilding with conquest mode in Deception sending you on a grand adventure across the realms.
My First Mortal Kombat was MK2 on Gameboy, than Mortal kombat Deception, then MK vs DC, and then MKX, after going back to Armageddon & MK3, I figured out that the 2D era played a hella lot worse than the 3D Era
@@scottchaison1001 Whenever you get a game in a series that introduces a lot of new people into it you'll typically get a lot of people who are aggressively indifferent and even sometimes disdainful of what came before and and in time this can lead to game series becoming something completely unrecognizable as the future games cater to the new yuppies, to the exclusion of the original and hardcore fans. Maybe your familiar with how cursed the wider audience market strategy/mythology/phrase has become because it's basically the same problem, another good analogy would be akin to an invasive species moving in and destroying the local ecology. On the other hand there are people like myself and others who while brought in via a more wider audience oriented jumping on point, actually seek out and play or at the very least research the older games in the series. That's what I mean by unlike other normies, sorry this got a little long winded, and yes MK9 is amazing!
I recognize Becky Gable, Kerri Hoskins, Katalin Zamiar, Richard Divizio, Daniel Pesina, etc... over these new people as my kombatants, I'm feeling my age here, I'm so proud to have been a Midway kid
2:35 Is it actually stated somewhere in the games' canon that his goal is to prove his moves are real? His MK1 bio mentions nothing of the sort, and I don't remember this detail coming up anywhere else. The MK1 comic and Johnny's ending indicate that participation in the tournament is a journey of self-discovery for him.
Very good, I just have a few doubts... 1 - Who fights against whom in the tournament? 2 - How many fighters are there in total in the tournament? I imagine they are the playable characters plus Goro and excluding Raiden, but if that's the case, why were there so many people? Spectators? 3 - Which side were the characters on? Because between EarthRealm and Outworld, only Goro was from Outworld. My interpretation is that Sub-Zero was hired by Shang Tsung (as seen in the final cinematic of Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero) but went with the hidden intention of killing him for payment (as mentioned in his ending in the first game). Scorpion went to kill Sub-Zero with the intention of defeating all fighters until reaching Sub-Zero, so it would also serve Shang Tsung, or at least help him. Kano, even though he intends to kill Shang Tsung and steal the gold, would be against Sonya no matter what, so Shang Tsung would put him against her. And with that, we would have Kano, Sub-Zero, Scorpion, and Goro indirectly or directly benefiting Outworld, and Liu Kang, Cage, and Sonya on the side of EarthRealm. Do you think that makes sense? 4 - Reptile is not mentioned yet, but he was hidden protecting Shang Tsung, as explained in his intro in MK2. Perhaps he faced Kano or Sub-Zero (who surely tried to kill Tsung) one night while the tournament fighters rested. 5 - Is there no order of the matchups? The only thing known is that the last one was between Goro and Liu Kang, and Liu Kang won. 6 - In the comic, Tsung personally invites Raiden, but he never participated because he is a deity, so officially, why did he invite him? I know there may be many inconsistencies, but if there is no official answer, it would be good to create an alternative that makes sense within the known canon.
Great video, especially for me as a fan of the original MK1 and MK2 comics. While the 2011 version has its strengths, the Midway era version of the earlier games' lore and setting, presented no less in these comics than in the games themselves, has a much more interesting feel to it for me.
@@The4thSnake yeah by giving them your hipster esq bias opinion. Lmfao the syory was better when tobias was there yeah man i loved reading text while the character posed tf? You are just being pretentious at this point , as soon qs you said godawful netherealm games i stopped watching .
@@LiMe251 Oh my God, I forgot about this comment. Lol I think there were some interesting ideas at that stage. Definitely would have been a different game altogether had they stuck with a lot of it.
The story bit about goro having seven wives and there being two queens (mai and sheeva) makes me wonder if shokan society has harems as a general part of life and each shokan male is expected to have a harem.
Proof that you didn't need a 1 Million Dollar, 6 hour Cinematic Story Mode you'll play once and then forget about it's existence to tell a good and engaging story and lore in your fighting games (If there's someone out there who says old fighting games didn't have a story means they have the attention span of a pickle) Thank you Loremaster 4thSnake
I remember enjoying the old games story more then the reboot. I played through the story of the reboot and I didn't really care all that much? Like I guess some parts I was like oh wow,but most of the time it didn't interest me,the old timeline actually kept my interest and I learned new things about each fighter playing through and using characters and reading lore bits. I miss that time
3:38 That actually works well with the backstory of the tournament. There's no real need for kombatants from the Outworld side to participate. Outworld's already won the previous tournaments, and Goro is grand champion, having beaten the previous one, Kung Lao. The fight is mainly to decide whether or not Earthrealm wrestles control of the tournament from Outworld, represented by Goro and Shang Tsung, and in general to decide who is the next champion. Granted, there can still be Outworld participants off-screen, but even "MK1 roster plus other kombatants from Earth" works in the context of the later lore. Of course, MK2011 strictly establishes that there are Outworld participants, even retconning some kombatants from later games into the story.
I got into the series by MK 9 but I prefer the original timeline because of better writing and I hate MK x story and 11 stories made me want to slap the writer and say go back and do it again original timeline better
@@mkdemigodzillawarrior I don't have mk 11 I saw all the cuts scenes the story got bad the second sonya got crush (because I was wondering why they couldn't free her)
I just ran across your channel and started watching your videos, you’re definitely one of the better lore keeper type youtubers! You should do a “wasted potential” video on Reiko or Havik pleeeeaaase!!
I heard Shang Tsung was cursed because he cheated during a previous Mortal Kombat and the Elder Gods didn’t take it well. Edit: I learned this from the second episode of Death Battle, and I have no idea where they got that idea, but it does line up with the idea that he’s an Earth Realm native.
Kano at least has watched Johnny's movies in the NRS games. How else could he have known that Johnny sampled The angry Aussie's likeness for Ninja Priest. Tremor told him?
Prior to Sonya marrying Johnny Cage, it was hinted she had a possible relationship with Jax. Besides them being close friends and looking out for each other, here are some hints. 1. In MK: Defenders of the Realm it was shown Sonya had feelings for Jax, and was jealous when he ended up with another woman. 2. In MK11 it's hinted Jax is jealous of Johnny Cage marrying Sonya in some intro dialogue. I think this could lead to interesting interactions between Johnny and Jax.
It’s interesting that all the characters are from Earthrealm, in my head-canon, that would explain why Reptile is in human form, he is sent to sabotage or murder the good guys.
Sonya's father was a weird one in the MK9 ending. It doesn't explicitly state whether or not the ghost speaking to Sonya was truly her father, but it does state that he's been missing for a long time. So for all we know, she could have been talking to Damashi.
Mortal Kombat as always had a great story and lore behind it's world it had great world building and characters to boot I don't know weather the old story is better or not but shao Lin monks had one of the best story telling IMAO
I hate how much disrespect tobais's work gets, he wasn't perfect but he definitely had passion for the games and their stories and created some of my favorite stories
I really want a reboot where everything goes back to Mk1's lore and expand on it with the elements of those really good comics, with their cinematic story route they can really do something worthwhile here. Just pray for Mk12 😂
@@The4thSnake not me mate, my mk friend said you were gonna bust out all of your MK stuff in a month and then do other stuff all year, and I bet him a beer that videos don't work like that haha
This comic was on the Genesis port the back of the manual mk2 had a comic in the back 2 no one ever listens or even cares when I explain the mk1 and 2 lore. Luv this video. I love loud
While the overall story of Mortal Kombat is somewhat easy to understand, there was a ton of stuff that was retconned even before the Netherrealm games. Characters that supposedly died in one game would just be back in the next with no explanation, information in one game would contradict later information, and the movie had a huge influence on the games as well when it came to information.
This is an old video but eh whatever. Regarding why Shang Tsung invited powerful warriors to his rigged tournament, it was my understanding that he did it so he could take the souls of the ones that died, thus making himself more powerful. I'm not sure if this was only in the movie or it was said somewhere else, but that's the explanation I remember.
I always liked the version where Sub-Zero was hired to kill Shang Tsung better. I always felt it should have been revealed that it was Raiden who hired him as they were 9 tournaments down and Raiden was desperate and not completely sure Kang would get the job done.
You know even for everything bad about these comics, they're still better than NRS ( god the new games are shit when it comes to Story) and I want a mk1 remake with a Story mode but with John Tobias even though he doesn't work with mk
In games and other materials, Shang Tsung stealing souls was altered so that he needed to do so to expand his lifespan... though they never state anywhere except the comic that it was meant to be because of a curse from the gods. Most of the time it's depicted as Shang Tsung attempting to become more powerful. By MK 2, Raiden was given a much different role than his jackass persona of being the kind of god who would change the tournament rules to allow other gods to compete... which ended in the apocalypse. "Have a nice day" indeed, but by 3 the past we've known him for in his MK 1 ending is totally forgotten, so it's no fault on the reboot's part. Also the Shang Tsung being assassinated by Kano and Sub-Zero were... well, to be blunt, those were only put into the story so that the characters have a reason to compete in the tournament and thus have a reason to go to the last boss. The change in plotline wasn't that bad and in other media (such as the tv series Conquest) the Lin Kuei had been hired by Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn. Not to mention Kano ended up working for Shao Kahn in MK3 and in Deadly Alliance Kano ended up working for Shang Tsung. Since Shang Tsung's wealthy enemies have never been established in any capacity it's probably best to just forget them the same way we can forget evil Raiden.
It'll never happened, but it'd be fun if there were ever a Mortal Kombat Zero that ignores all the retcons up to and including Raiden being a protector of Earthrealm instead of just a dick and looked into the original original backstories. Would probably have to tag Tobias to make it feel authentic if he's still got it.
2:01 It was the Elder Gods being dumb as usual. "We'll punish Shang Tsung for stealing someone's soul by forcing him to steal souls to survive even though that'll make him stronger and more powerful."
It is now my headcanon that Kano got Tremor into Cage's films over a movie night at Black Dragon HQ
My theories on the others opinions:
Tasia: Hated them
Jarek: Thought they were alright
No-Face: 7/10 not enough fire.
Kano: Was drunk.
Kabal: Laughed his ass off
Kobra and Kira: N/A due to time frame
@@Cdr2002 Kabal says "Ninja Mime 4 was bullshit" in a mid match taunt to Cage in MK11. I guess he didn't like that one.
@@fiendwithoutaface6833 Wow, Johnny made 4 Ninja Mime films! I thought it was just two based on the scene in chapter 1.
@@fiendwithoutaface6833 I suppose not
@@Cdr2002 He was angry the 4th film broke continuity with the others and was an in universe reboot at the end.
Both story and lore matter to me in every game.
It should to everyone
THIS
Same here
Me too
Thought it was only me good to see others
anyone who thinks sindel was always evil has clearly just started mk, the only times she was evil was under mind control which doesn't count.
Inb4 appears some idiot who says that being evil makes her automatically a better character
I grew with the old timeline sindel! And I love her character, but this is a abomination of character development sindel was truly mishandled!
thank all of you, sindel out of all the og characters may have been treated the worst.
@@welchrebooted4739 word!
In a intro that leaked from mk11 it is implied that she was always evil, since the beginning. Also Quan Chi killed her, she didn't commit suicide.
I feel like a student in a history class about Mortal Kombat any time I watch these videos, helps expand my knowledge of the series. I thank you for that Mr. 4thSnake.
It's been clear for years now that John Tobias was the driving force being MK's story. And with him gone it's been in the hands of mediocre writers who are just phoning it in.
After Tobias you had John Vogel who expanded the universe of the 3d era. Afterwards we have the Netherealm era which has been explored on this channel throughly.
I keep saying this.
People still love Boon though. Even though he's currently working with WB on destroying the franchise
@@shawns860 It's very similar to Katsuhiro Harada (the director of Tekken since Tekken 4, and a major member of the team behind Tekken 3). Harada has essentially turned one of the most story driven franchises in gaming to a tournament experience. Whenever you look at the series after Tekken 4 you see how much the stigma of "story dos not matter in fighting games" is enforced when with characters that are simplified to the bare minimum of storytelling (Bruce Irvin went from a street grown pit fighter, to a mercenary with no memory after a plane crash that for Kazuya, to simply a guy that enters a tournament just to have fun. No concluding with Kazuya, no attempt to come to terms with who he was or why he left Kazuya's militia, nothing).
@@musicmodjoe2139
Man, I was never into Tekken enough to get into the story (really only ever liked 3. 2 would have been perfect, but it was too slow for me), but that is terrible.
The people behind MK at least care enough to put a half-assed attempt into maintaining some continuity in lore
@@shawns860 Tekken 7 feels like an attempt at closure without understanding the concept. Much like MKX and MK11 members of the old cast are thrown to the side (or as dlc). Much like netherealm's MK games they are trying to give you a cinematic experience, but that layer of makeup covers gaping holes in the plot, in the character development and in the continuity. Here's an example: Ever since Tekken 3 Jun Kazama has been absent, in Tekken 4 she appears as a vision in front of her son's eyes (fair enough if we try to write a compelling character) and ever since than? NOTHING!
Jinpachi Mishima was brought to the roster (as he was exisiting sound data in Tekken 4), and Asuka Kazama (essentialy a character model swap of Jun from tekken tag 1) was brought in (no connection to Jun or Jin, no nothing). Tekken 7 tried to be cinematic and conclude the story (how do you conclude a story when you bring in Akuma from street fighter and retcon him into the series?)
Back to MK, I think netherealm follows the metal gear solid school of cutscenes (ie, voice actors carry the swiss cheese of a script, not the localization, just the original). MK suffers from the exact same problems as Tekken, Soul Calibur and other fighting games that talk cinematic but don't grasp STORY.
The Midway era (punching bag supreme by Netherealm and by some of the fans) had its gaping holes from time to time (Shujinko aging but none of the roster's cast) but something remains that holds it together: Lore for characters, stages and endings that connect to the defeat of Onaga. Tekken doesn't do that anymore.
In MK11 when Johnny and Cassie interact, he does mentions "grandma carlton"
Yeah, and it was pretty funny actually.
We now have the klassic "Johnny Pee-Pants" lmfao
so is her name cassandra carlton and she just goes by cassie cage?
No, her full name is Cassandra Carlton Cagey, with Carlton becoming just a middle name. Johnny legally changed his last name to Cage. So he really is Johnny Cage.
The stakes of the tournament are hinted at in MK1, although not in the comic, but in the game's attract mode.
It says that "the imperial court of immortals" invites you to compete in the tournament, the prize being "your continued existence".
That’s a really good prize but I would still prefer a new car
@@rosestar1324 I can imagine that being Johnny's initial response.
Isn't there something about imbalancing the furies as well?
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer the furies were first mentioned in MK2.
In some versions this is there. But in others the text is not mentioned.
Thank you for being a voice for the old, dying generation of original Mortal Kombat fans. We need you!
THANK YOU! He's one of the few that CONTINUOUSLY brings attention to the origins.
I prefer Charles, but I still think you are a legend among aviators
Sketch Stevens
Bitch! Thanks anyway I suppose ❤️
@@WhistleMeThis did you land in japan?
Just imagine if Midway didn't get bankrupt how would the series be?
"The only canonical order"
KANO
This was the funniest part
He's referencing Techno Syndrome.
@@jennifercorbett8640 yes, that might be why I said that lmao
@@louisb.6149 I thought you mean like "canonical", because the first 4 letters are spelt kind of like "Kano".
@@jennifercorbett8640 nah, I got it. I probably should have specified ive heard this song way too many times haha
@@louisb.6149 It's all good.
This and MK Deception were the best attempts at flashing out the world of MK
@Dog Lofi Anime was here! Also, there wasn't any. At least until Raiden says "He must win." and reboots the series.
Mostly MK deception since it is a semi open world.
Wished Tobias comeback to the game lore development, he is so much better and treat with so much care each character
Hiring ANYONE COMPETENT would do
BUT WILL THEY?!
@@scottchaison1001 MK9 is just MK1 2 and 3 story with a bad ending so is pretty much Tobias working
@@scottchaison1001 "did very well" killing 90% of the roster to make shitty characters later
@@jonasreis90 you've got no idea at how much I got annoyed with the story in 9, how the heck are you going to kill 95% of your legacy characters to create new ones that'll eventually get cut from your next game? Kombat kids are dumb and don't get me started on kassie beating shinnok, it makes no sense!
*but you see because Johnny beat shinnok 20 years beforehand, it’s obvious that his daughter who also has his powers conveniently to beat the more powerful version of shinnok*
Barely a minute in, and you managed to make a joke about both Pat and David Cage. Nice of you to at least give both sides of the war equal treatment.
I love that Liu Kang fishes
Now have this image in my head of a younger Lui learning temperament, discipline and respect for life from catching fish at a pond near the temple. Tiny things like that inform character and I love it
Here's something everyone forgets! The fighters you pick from are said to be the ONLY SURVIVORS of the tournament at that point in the tournament. So there were many more, they just got killed beforehand. This is information you can find in the original game.
The games dead for me, dlc not arriving
True, but it's not from MK2 not one. And these 7 kombatants weren't supposed to be tge only ones right from the start, seeing how there are many people attending the opening ceremony in the comic.
I'll always love the 3D MK games no matter how many "fans" trash them. Especially Shaolin Monks, one of my favorite games of all time.
Deception Was the Shit, both in story and gameplay.
Shaolin monks was dope
Deadly Alliance and Deception were a great change of the formula, both story-wise and gameplay-wise, MKD's Konquest Mode is still one of my favorite modes in any fighting game
Nobody hates on Shaolin Monks.
Best thing they did during the 3D era
@@ZatotheFiend This guy speaks truth.
Raiden's original story definitely got the shaft. In his arcade ending he goes mad with power and causes the destruction of all the realms.
Bit polarising when one considers he tries his hardest to protect Earthrealm in (almost) every installment afterwards
So before they made him the mentor and protector god from II onwards MK1 Raiden was Dark Raiden without the corruption.
@@Xehanort10he was going to be a protector god in development before becoming the more cocky like Raiden in the comic so the idea of Raiden being the wise mentor was there before
Gonna leave a like and save it somewhere before the new Mortal Kombat 1 messes up the search results.
The tournament in MK1 was just a Shaolin martial arts tournament that Shang Tsung took control of. Liu Kang's goal was to defeat Goro and return the tournament's control back to the shaolin, which is apparent in his ending.
The comic also says that Shang Tsung's motive is that he believes that Liu Kang's defeat at the hands of Goro will destroy any hope the shaolin have of taking back the competition.
I believe Kano also takes control of the tournament in his ending.
MK2 adds on that Tsung took control of the tournament to "unbalance the furies", which will weaken Earth's dimensional barriers and allow Shao Kahn to invade. So yeah, the tournament was VERY different. I think its current version was introduced in the movie.
I'm also surprised you didn't mention the MK4 prequel comic.
I've used some of the bio stuff in my own fanfiction series, such as Chow, where I've had him and Liu Kang reunite. I also changed Liu to being his surname, just makes more sense and for consistency.
Great video as always, can't wait to see if you'll talk about the other prequel comics.
@@danieltarczynski6559 The attract more for MK1 showed character bios and a brief story blurb. This is how the latter goes: "A 2000 year old half-human dragon, Goro remains undefeated for the past 500 years. He won the title of Grand Champion by defeating Kung Lao, a Shaolin fighting monk. It was during this period that the tournament fell into Shang Tsung's hands and was corrupted."
In MK1 and MK2 lore, the tournament was just an ancient shaolin martial arts competition that Tsung took control of. No Outworld vs. Earthrealm dynamic.
I hate how prominent that mindset is; that story doesn't matter. If there's no reasons for characters to even be onscreen together, then what's the point? Rule of cool can only go so far before you lose interest.
It ain't a 4thSnake video without him grumbling about NRS, despite the video not being about them.
Man, Malibu comics had some really cool ideas that would be great in future adaptations or games.
Baraka was a nominal good guy, a mutant fighting to free his people from the rule of Shao Kahn. Hell, in his own dedicated comic he's basically the Mandalorian, protecting this special child from Shao Kahn's minions. What makes that story really interesting is that just like in the Mandalorian, a mysterious dark figure comes in and takes the baby away to prepare for her destiny. Noob Saibot. Who in the comics had nothing to do with Bi Han, and was instead a shadowy hero.
Bi Han was the final hero of the series, making the final win for EarthRealm at the cost of his life, while Scorpion was the villain, working for Shao Kahn to conquer. Sub Zero also had this cool arc where he had to overcome his fear of Scorpion.
Kung Lao wasn't Liu Kang's second, no he's this lone wolf out to redeem his family's name and honor after the defeat of the first Kung Lao.
There was Sing and Sang, the Order of the Light's chosen champions, two twins who would fuse into one being. What was cool about that was when one of the twins died, the other fused with him one last time, creating a half-dead warrior that could be controlled by Shao Kahn.
Johnny had a cool body guard, Bo, and Raiden had two hot ninja chicks working for him.
But the coolest thing was Kano. Specifically how he was more then just some scumbag that Sonya was hunting, that Raiden tried recruiting him against Shao Kahn. Kano screwed him over, but he was actually kinda remorseful about the act, and defied Shao Kahn by letting Raiden escape rather then kill him.
All that sounds actually pretty cool, makes a lot of the MK characters seem less generic and cookie cutter. I especially like the Noob and Bi-Han things though still prefer them being the same but its cool to see that at least in one universe, Bi-Han didn't become a jobber and is still as powerful as he was in life.
@@MysteriousTomJenkins I had an idea where the Soulnado rips Noob Saibot in half, resulting in the vengeful evil spirit that has all of Bi Han's negative qualities of coldness and ruthelessness while another has the noble qualities, and works as a mysterious agent of good. Maybe the good half also travels through time, like in the comic.
Never made much sense to me that Shang TSung would be stupid enough to invite a fregging Thunder God to his rigged tournament.😂
Mortal Kombat didn't get so bad until Midway bankruptcy!
Little dramatic aren't ya?
@@JoeChillton no, that is like what exactly happened!
With Exception of some of the lesser MK games.
Special Ops for example.
@@andrewrogers3067 I think you meant special forces right?
@@JoeChillton No even 3D era haters agree that Deception conquest mode was phenomenal for its time and a million times more consistent than modern MK lore
1:04 you used one of my favourite words! I knew I liked you for a reason. Honestly, I never played any of the MK games, too young, but recently the characters have interested me, in no small part to your work. I can’t imagine how irritating it must be to be a fan, but I hope eventually things start looking up.
Johnny's backstory, both new & old, reminds me too much of Brendan Fraser and his career and that kinda terrifies me.
3:53 This actually was retconned even before MK 2011 in MK Mythologies. At the end of the game Shang Tsung comes to Lin Kuei to personally invite Sub-Zero to compete in Mortal Kombat.
That's just his in. He could still have been hired to kill him.
Its ironic how much thought and care went into the world,characters and story of the first MK game where it was made to be a violent spectacle to compete with street fighter and having no unique gameplay of its own. Now its inverse, the story is now treated as a spectacle with no substance that is also not being made with the proper care,thought or time but has its own unique gameplay being improved because them putting more thought,care and time into it
The old MK games had unique gameplay elements. And i dont see whats so unique about modern MK games gameplay.
Zoltan Z the 3d games had unique gameplay but was never improved it had so much potential to be more in depth and unique than MK11 and could rivaled tekken. But I think unique is the wrong wording of MK11 gameplay I meant more than they made a fighting system more their own that they constantly improved upon since mk9 with combinations of other mechanics from other fighting games which again they could have done with the 3d games but never did
@@michaelhernandez7568 is it me or do they never give the 3d era a chance the characters either get killed or forgotton and the gameplay never brought up again to improve them a little
@@ShiftyGuy777i feel that too im constantly thinking the style system ever since they brought variations and also constantly wanting characters like li mei, taven.daegon,shujinko,and hotaru because of the fact they can make the system and characters of the 3d era work and be better than initially but know reduced to been either forgotten or just references truly wasted potential
I think mk12 and the new era going back to this lore could be a really interesting concept
Thunder God wages are 6.75-8.75
Raiden is just very committed to the job.
I can't be one of the only modern Mortal Kombat fan who watches this and agrees
Seeing people who only started playing mk9 say “bring back mileena” despite her being in a lot of games. Add this to them then saying “no you can’t have havik, he doesn’t have the back story or presence that mileena does” and it’s obvious you don’t actually know asking about the games.
MK1 brought back a lot of John Carlton’s backstory, but with a wife named Christina now.
Liu Kang ...the youngest and fastest warrior in the tournament 🔥 thank you for keeping the OG lore alive, hope the new movie doesn't screw this up
Always a good day when I get a notification from The4thSnake!! Thank you!
Also, I think it would be great to see you cover the realms in a future video/videos. Chaos and Order realms along with the potential plot and characters to be explored there. Also maybe a list of the forgotten 3-D characters you'd love to see make it back to the screen. Keep up the good work!
Bring back Havik, Drahmin, and Reiko!
The Fighters Den is also a good channel for making videos on the old forgotten people.
He has a series called "The Rise and Fall of....".
And "RESPECT" where he brings up the feats of people when most people either didnt know or never talk about it.
@@Sevrion Oh sweet man. Thanks. I'll have to check that out.
why wasn't Hotaru in MK 11
@@ZekeThePlumber86
ruclips.net/video/KIs_LYEfHdE/видео.html
Also when the fuck did people just decide that the 3D era was bad? Those games were extremely beloved and now we talk about them like the Star Wars prequels. It's asinine.
The Star Wars prequels were beloved when they come out
I honestly wouldn't take any of the Not Best Friend's opinions seriously since from what I have seen so far, they neither pay attention to stuff that well and they already seem ready to hate the 3D era so I don't see much value there. Also recently watched Mat play Armageddon Konquest and immediately turned off the video when it had Delia calling Argus by name and Mat said "So this is Jerrod." I already knew he'd have a negative opinion but that just shows where it'd come from, ignorance. Hell, in his MK11 playthrough he didn't even know why the Cyber Lin-Kuei would side with Kronika...maybe because Sub-Zero destroyed them all so they want a better future...? And he doesn't even have to read the comics, MKX I am pretty sure says this too.
Mortal kombat has never been there strong suit when it comes to fighting game lore (probably because by the time the 3D games came out they were playing guilty gear) but I feel Matt just talks out his ass even when he’s proven wrong literally seconds later
That´s such a bitchass attitude. And each of the Not Best Friends still have a lot of fans that just regurgitate the same opinions... It´s actually sad.
Goro have 7 wifes and I have none.
Other sad thing: theres a universe where Tobias still works in MK and we are not living there.
This video's name is going to confuse people in the future. It's a shame that Netherrealm can't even make something as simple as a title without fucking everything up.
My first MK game was MK vs. DC if you can believe it, but unlike most normies I actually went back and actively sought out the older games to understand the story and characters better and to get more of the gameplay I liked and see how it evolved over time, I still have my Classic Xbox and got Deception and Deadly Alliance I thoroughly enjoyed both and despite me vastly preferring the gameplay of 9 and X, the 3D era had undeniably better Worldbuilding with conquest mode in Deception sending you on a grand adventure across the realms.
My First Mortal Kombat was MK2 on Gameboy, than Mortal kombat Deception, then MK vs DC, and then MKX, after going back to Armageddon & MK3, I figured out that the 2D era played a hella lot worse than the 3D Era
@@scottchaison1001 Whenever you get a game in a series that introduces a lot of new people into it you'll typically get a lot of people who are aggressively indifferent and even sometimes disdainful of what came before and and in time this can lead to game series becoming something completely unrecognizable as the future games cater to the new yuppies, to the exclusion of the original and hardcore fans. Maybe your familiar with how cursed the wider audience market strategy/mythology/phrase has become because it's basically the same problem, another good analogy would be akin to an invasive species moving in and destroying the local ecology. On the other hand there are people like myself and others who while brought in via a more wider audience oriented jumping on point, actually seek out and play or at the very least research the older games in the series. That's what I mean by unlike other normies, sorry this got a little long winded, and yes MK9 is amazing!
@@scottchaison1001 You're welcome :)
@@scottchaison1001 In terms of gameplay.
Story though? Ehhhhh...
@@scottchaison1001 It had many deviations from its own continuity.
3:05 tremor likes Johnny's movies too lol
I recognize Becky Gable, Kerri Hoskins, Katalin Zamiar, Richard Divizio, Daniel Pesina, etc... over these new people as my kombatants, I'm feeling my age here, I'm so proud to have been a Midway kid
Kind of wish we got a collector's edition comic for MK3.
2:35 Is it actually stated somewhere in the games' canon that his goal is to prove his moves are real? His MK1 bio mentions nothing of the sort, and I don't remember this detail coming up anywhere else.
The MK1 comic and Johnny's ending indicate that participation in the tournament is a journey of self-discovery for him.
marcus24000 indeed.
Very good, I just have a few doubts...
1 - Who fights against whom in the tournament?
2 - How many fighters are there in total in the tournament? I imagine they are the playable characters plus Goro and excluding Raiden, but if that's the case, why were there so many people? Spectators?
3 - Which side were the characters on? Because between EarthRealm and Outworld, only Goro was from Outworld. My interpretation is that Sub-Zero was hired by Shang Tsung (as seen in the final cinematic of Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero) but went with the hidden intention of killing him for payment (as mentioned in his ending in the first game). Scorpion went to kill Sub-Zero with the intention of defeating all fighters until reaching Sub-Zero, so it would also serve Shang Tsung, or at least help him. Kano, even though he intends to kill Shang Tsung and steal the gold, would be against Sonya no matter what, so Shang Tsung would put him against her. And with that, we would have Kano, Sub-Zero, Scorpion, and Goro indirectly or directly benefiting Outworld, and Liu Kang, Cage, and Sonya on the side of EarthRealm. Do you think that makes sense?
4 - Reptile is not mentioned yet, but he was hidden protecting Shang Tsung, as explained in his intro in MK2. Perhaps he faced Kano or Sub-Zero (who surely tried to kill Tsung) one night while the tournament fighters rested.
5 - Is there no order of the matchups? The only thing known is that the last one was between Goro and Liu Kang, and Liu Kang won.
6 - In the comic, Tsung personally invites Raiden, but he never participated because he is a deity, so officially, why did he invite him?
I know there may be many inconsistencies, but if there is no official answer, it would be good to create an alternative that makes sense within the known canon.
Great video, especially for me as a fan of the original MK1 and MK2 comics.
While the 2011 version has its strengths, the Midway era version of the earlier games' lore and setting, presented no less in these comics than in the games themselves, has a much more interesting feel to it for me.
As someone who's just getting into MK this helps a lot.
Thank you
You're welcome.
@@The4thSnake yeah by giving them your hipster esq bias opinion. Lmfao the syory was better when tobias was there yeah man i loved reading text while the character posed tf? You are just being pretentious at this point , as soon qs you said godawful netherealm games i stopped watching .
@@MrDcmetal666 he as multiple movie length videos on why the games are bad. He’s not biased, he just sees the massive amount of flaws the games have
Man i want Mortal Kombat Japanese Anime adaptation. I hope the day comes soon.
I miss the original timeline lore..
What about the Pre-MK2 lore?
@@LiMe251 Oh my God, I forgot about this comment. Lol
I think there were some interesting ideas at that stage. Definitely would have been a different game altogether had they stuck with a lot of it.
@@ryanfolsom8851 Back when Shao Kahn wasn't even a concept.
The new timeline took away barakas credibility for cutting off Jax's arms and giving sub zero that scar.
Where the hell are you getting this from?
The only reason why everything got changed is maybe because when raiden went back in time everything shifted slightly but just a guess
The movies and comic books heavily inspired the games
No shit
The story bit about goro having seven wives and there being two queens (mai and sheeva) makes me wonder if shokan society has harems as a general part of life and each shokan male is expected to have a harem.
Proof that you didn't need a 1 Million Dollar, 6 hour Cinematic Story Mode you'll play once and then forget about it's existence to tell a good and engaging story and lore in your fighting games (If there's someone out there who says old fighting games didn't have a story means they have the attention span of a pickle)
Thank you Loremaster 4thSnake
So much wasted money on bad writing in movies and video games.
I remember enjoying the old games story more then the reboot. I played through the story of the reboot and I didn't really care all that much? Like I guess some parts I was like oh wow,but most of the time it didn't interest me,the old timeline actually kept my interest and I learned new things about each fighter playing through and using characters and reading lore bits. I miss that time
3:38
That actually works well with the backstory of the tournament. There's no real need for kombatants from the Outworld side to participate. Outworld's already won the previous tournaments, and Goro is grand champion, having beaten the previous one, Kung Lao.
The fight is mainly to decide whether or not Earthrealm wrestles control of the tournament from Outworld, represented by Goro and Shang Tsung, and in general to decide who is the next champion. Granted, there can still be Outworld participants off-screen, but even "MK1 roster plus other kombatants from Earth" works in the context of the later lore.
Of course, MK2011 strictly establishes that there are Outworld participants, even retconning some kombatants from later games into the story.
Like Quan chi for example -_-
The MK 1 music is a nice touch
Oh yes
I got into the series by MK 9 but I prefer the original timeline because of better writing and I hate MK x story and 11 stories made me want to slap the writer and say go back and do it again original timeline better
correction and made me want to go and do it again
Totally agree. MK11 ruined their story modes for me.
@@mkdemigodzillawarrior I don't have mk 11 I saw all the cuts scenes the story got bad the second sonya got crush (because I was wondering why they couldn't free her)
I just ran across your channel and started watching your videos, you’re definitely one of the better lore keeper type youtubers! You should do a “wasted potential” video on Reiko or Havik pleeeeaaase!!
In my defence, I was only 7-8 when I played the old MK games.
whenever the next MK reboot comes out, I hope they get people who know and love the mk series to write the stories.
Proper writing!
@@Prince-Shogun agreed
or worse they recon everything and make it worse I hope that doesn't happen
@@ShiftyGuy777 oh no lets hope not
I heard Shang Tsung was cursed because he cheated during a previous Mortal Kombat and the Elder Gods didn’t take it well.
Edit: I learned this from the second episode of Death Battle, and I have no idea where they got that idea, but it does line up with the idea that he’s an Earth Realm native.
Damn, I never knew that Sonya was from Texas. That's very interesting to learn, I thought the only Texan was Erron Black.
Erron is from Chicago
@@JesusGonzalez-pk6vo he not he from Texas one over his intro with leathface said nice to meet a another Texan
Awesome dig at David Cage there! I always look forward to watching your videos btw, very informative.
Kano at least has watched Johnny's movies in the NRS games. How else could he have known that Johnny sampled The angry Aussie's likeness for Ninja Priest. Tremor told him?
I recently read the prequel comics. They are really cool.
I didn't know many of this stuff thanks man! 👍
The hasbro (G.I. Joe) Kano’s bio had him “deported from japan”. I always thought that was a bit weird ?
What a brilliant (and sadly true) opening. 1 minute and 5 seconds of pure gold.
Sad Hsu Hao is disappointed by the fans’ ignorance.
I don't understand why people hate him so much.
@@fearz-4367 Me neither! I think he's fucking awesome!
Yes I’ll admit I got into MK form the later games but I’m willing to learn about the old games
Prior to Sonya marrying Johnny Cage, it was hinted she had a possible relationship with Jax. Besides them being close friends and looking out for each other, here are some hints.
1. In MK: Defenders of the Realm it was shown Sonya had feelings for Jax, and was jealous when he ended up with another woman.
2. In MK11 it's hinted Jax is jealous of Johnny Cage marrying Sonya in some intro dialogue.
I think this could lead to interesting interactions between Johnny and Jax.
Could’ve been an interesting angle but I’m a sucker for the relationship we got. Cassie And Jacqui are virtually sisters anyway, so *shrug*.
Hm...that would explain that. Wonder how Sonya would have been if she chose to date Jax...
@@mkdemigodzillawarrior Probably less easily irritated.
As much as I love Pat, Matt and Woolie, they were super wrong about the 3D era.
And I must inform you that John Vogel is a genius!
I struggle to watch any of their videos on MK, because they usually get the lore wrong too.
What channels are these?
@@KennyTurner1996 SuperBestFriendsPlay
PatStaresAt
Woolie Vs
And I forgot what Matt's channel is
@@sketchstevens5859 I think his is Matmcmuscles.
To be fair, they can all admit to not being MK lore experts. Especially Pat, who's super wrong about literally everything.
It’s interesting that all the characters are from Earthrealm, in my head-canon, that would explain why Reptile is in human form, he is sent to sabotage or murder the good guys.
Sonya's father was a weird one in the MK9 ending. It doesn't explicitly state whether or not the ghost speaking to Sonya was truly her father, but it does state that he's been missing for a long time. So for all we know, she could have been talking to Damashi.
Mortal Kombat as always had a great story and lore behind it's world it had great world building and characters to boot I don't know weather the old story is better or not but shao Lin monks had one of the best story telling IMAO
really shows how little attention NRS paid to lore and just wanted to make everything look cool
Yea, this is the lore I prefer
Hopefully Boon sees this video and can remember his roots
I hate how much disrespect tobais's work gets, he wasn't perfect but he definitely had passion for the games and their stories and created some of my favorite stories
I really want a reboot where everything goes back to Mk1's lore and expand on it with the elements of those really good comics, with their cinematic story route they can really do something worthwhile here. Just pray for Mk12 😂
*"Do not make me make a video on this"*
If we don't make you make it, how will it get done?
1:27
Anyone else frustrated these comics aren't collected in a hardcover edition?
I had no idea Johnny Cage wasn’t his birth name. The more you know
Thank you for helping me win a bet that you would post a MK video out of May
Why would you think I'd only ever post MK videos in May?
@@The4thSnake not me mate, my mk friend said you were gonna bust out all of your MK stuff in a month and then do other stuff all year, and I bet him a beer that videos don't work like that haha
That's dumb. You get that beer.
@@The4thSnake his stubbornness has gotten me plenty so far cheers 🤣
Nice video 4th Snake
Thanks.
0:04 😂😂😂 all of those are as true as Kung Jin's heterosexuality
Or Sindel's pre-MK11 willing evil
Or Hanzo and Kuai Liang's heterosexuality.
I mean-
I love the "Scorpion is a reincarnated specter and has no legal status" in Scorpion's bio and the "Deity - does not apply" in Rainden's.
Johnny has an ex in mk1 (the new one)
This comic was on the Genesis port the back of the manual mk2 had a comic in the back 2 no one ever listens or even cares when I explain the mk1 and 2 lore. Luv this video. I love loud
You should get a artist and you two should form a Alliance so y'all can make some great stories! Maybe showing Mk new writing team how it's done?
They will form a deadly alliance
And this a new alliance was formed, born of desperation for a good story
While the overall story of Mortal Kombat is somewhat easy to understand, there was a ton of stuff that was retconned even before the Netherrealm games. Characters that supposedly died in one game would just be back in the next with no explanation, information in one game would contradict later information, and the movie had a huge influence on the games as well when it came to information.
Tremor is also a Johnny cage fan shown in prefight dialogue in mkx
This is an old video but eh whatever. Regarding why Shang Tsung invited powerful warriors to his rigged tournament, it was my understanding that he did it so he could take the souls of the ones that died, thus making himself more powerful. I'm not sure if this was only in the movie or it was said somewhere else, but that's the explanation I remember.
Cool take.
I always liked the version where Sub-Zero was hired to kill Shang Tsung better. I always felt it should have been revealed that it was Raiden who hired him as they were 9 tournaments down and Raiden was desperate and not completely sure Kang would get the job done.
I like that idea as well.
Well done dude!!! Great video!
You know even for everything bad about these comics, they're still better than NRS ( god the new games are shit when it comes to Story) and I want a mk1 remake with a Story mode but with John Tobias even though he doesn't work with mk
In games and other materials, Shang Tsung stealing souls was altered so that he needed to do so to expand his lifespan... though they never state anywhere except the comic that it was meant to be because of a curse from the gods. Most of the time it's depicted as Shang Tsung attempting to become more powerful.
By MK 2, Raiden was given a much different role than his jackass persona of being the kind of god who would change the tournament rules to allow other gods to compete... which ended in the apocalypse. "Have a nice day" indeed, but by 3 the past we've known him for in his MK 1 ending is totally forgotten, so it's no fault on the reboot's part.
Also the Shang Tsung being assassinated by Kano and Sub-Zero were... well, to be blunt, those were only put into the story so that the characters have a reason to compete in the tournament and thus have a reason to go to the last boss. The change in plotline wasn't that bad and in other media (such as the tv series Conquest) the Lin Kuei had been hired by Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn. Not to mention Kano ended up working for Shao Kahn in MK3 and in Deadly Alliance Kano ended up working for Shang Tsung. Since Shang Tsung's wealthy enemies have never been established in any capacity it's probably best to just forget them the same way we can forget evil Raiden.
It'll never happened, but it'd be fun if there were ever a Mortal Kombat Zero that ignores all the retcons up to and including Raiden being a protector of Earthrealm instead of just a dick and looked into the original original backstories. Would probably have to tag Tobias to make it feel authentic if he's still got it.
2:01 It was the Elder Gods being dumb as usual. "We'll punish Shang Tsung for stealing someone's soul by forcing him to steal souls to survive even though that'll make him stronger and more powerful."
If there's no story than what's the point? I'm just fighting just to fight, that's pointless.
Anyone else notice that Liu Kangs signature studded wristbands were originally Johnny Cages thing