The God roll weapons of Into the Light (Recluse, Mountaintop, Hammerhead & More)

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
  • Bungie dropped an article going over all of the perks rolls of all 12 weapons coming with Into the Light. I figure I'm gonna be asked about my thoughts on all of the weapons, so let's get it. I will make a follow up video if need be during Into the Light for any other rolls I find interesting.
    article: www.bungie.net/7/en/News/arti...
    intro - 0:00
    forbearance - 3:06
    succession - 7:23
    falling guillotine - 9:55
    recluse - 13:38
    mountaintop - 15:51
    hammerhead - 18:11
    blast furnace - 21:28
    edge transit - 24:32
    luna's howl - 27:49
    midnight coup - 29:23
    hung jury - 30:32
    elsie's rifle - 31:49
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  • @alexbrown7015
    @alexbrown7015 2 месяца назад +252

    I forgot about Datto’s Go Figure from back in the Forsaken days. Truly an iconic weapon

    • @zuzusene
      @zuzusene 2 месяца назад +19

      Same! I still have mine in my vault. I love that weapon and I truly cannot describe why.

    • @KingJerbear
      @KingJerbear 2 месяца назад +7

      When I first started playing the game in Shadowkeep, I had an Outlaw/Rampage Go Figure and that thing absolutely carried my entire progress through all the main quests and season

    • @footballroxgaming7745
      @footballroxgaming7745 2 месяца назад +4

      I miss my go figure truly a nostalgic weapon

    • @JComm57
      @JComm57 2 месяца назад

      I still have my outlaw/ rampage Go Figure in my vault. It has the most kills out of every weapon in my vault.

    • @aaronalbrecht4404
      @aaronalbrecht4404 2 месяца назад +1

      Still my favorite gun in destiny history. Nothing has ever felt as good to me.

  • @Eternal_Tinsel
    @Eternal_Tinsel 2 месяца назад +345

    11:27 “situational” is probably the best way to describe swords rn

    • @Ellyark
      @Ellyark 2 месяца назад +16

      “bad” would be a better way

    • @toddelmsworth640
      @toddelmsworth640 2 месяца назад +1

      The only time I use swords are for Shatterskating in Last Wish for the secret chest

    • @rajanbirsidhu5650
      @rajanbirsidhu5650 2 месяца назад +6

      @@EllyarkTbf the only use for me with swords is eager edge, the other half is prolly my most used weapon

    • @ValiantNomad
      @ValiantNomad 2 месяца назад +4

      Yeah the only places I see them get any use for damage is the first Warlords and Ghosts of the Deep bosses, and Crota.

    • @petervalvo1186
      @petervalvo1186 2 месяца назад +5

      @@Ellyarkno because they’re the meta option for crota so calling them bad is just wrong, they’re very situational

  • @ShervierJ
    @ShervierJ 2 месяца назад +190

    Not even mad. The Hung Jury and Succession were bottom priority for me so this makes my order a little easier to choose

    • @ThtSunbreaker
      @ThtSunbreaker 2 месяца назад +4

      I for one will be rocking midnight coup and recluse considering I love hand cannons and SMGS and they are both my personal favourite, except midnight coup which is second to palindrome.
      And honestly even if its time gated which sure for the people who love to farm and farm it sucks but I personally dont mind, itll give me a reason to farm each week and keep coming back

    • @maisharona5861
      @maisharona5861 2 месяца назад +8

      Because of how little time I have to sharpen my skills now since I’m working two jobs and with how toxic LFG is, I’ve never done a full raid more than once or twice, so getting succession and forebearance is really nice for me. The only one they could’ve nixed was Hung Jury because we ALREADY HAVE IT IN THE VANGUARD FOCUSING TAB, and it already had most of these perks. Would have preferred Hawksaw, Shadow Price, Atheon’s Epilogue, Steefeather Repeater, or that one fusion that could swap between solar and arc damage to name a few

    • @ThtSunbreaker
      @ThtSunbreaker 2 месяца назад

      @@maisharona5861 i think even am auto in its place would have been good, there have been some nasty popular autos in past years like gnawing hunger, yeah its still relevent now but so is forebearance and falling guillotine

    • @ItsPizzachu
      @ItsPizzachu 2 месяца назад

      @@ThtSunbreakerdude I pulled out a zen moment/kc gnawing in PvP the other day and the thing absolutely shreds lmao

    • @ThtSunbreaker
      @ThtSunbreaker 2 месяца назад

      @@ItsPizzachu and forebearance still shreds, your point?

  • @Commander_Pika
    @Commander_Pika 2 месяца назад +259

    The only thing I'm hoping is that the weekly timegate (if they don't just remove it due to community outcry) is that it has player agency to it. So instead of just a set order, the player can "unlock" a weapon of their choosing. Timegate is still there, but the weapons you care about most you can get more towards the start.
    Edit: timegate was just cut in half. Nice 🙂

    • @kingkadster2426
      @kingkadster2426 2 месяца назад +9

      real

    • @SrgntSprnkls77
      @SrgntSprnkls77 2 месяца назад +54

      Its definitely not gonna be that generous. My hope is enough backlash gets them to reduce the time. Only 2 weeks to farm the final weapon (probably mountaintop) is ass

    • @Xlaws
      @Xlaws 2 месяца назад +10

      How about no timegate

    • @Commander_Pika
      @Commander_Pika 2 месяца назад +10

      @@Xlaws I mean, duhh, of course. I'm not advocating for one. I'm just saying that "Timegate" can be on a spectrum of how good or bad it is for the player. If there is going to be a timegate, no matter what, there are multiple ways they could do it: set order, RNG, or player choice.

    • @sirfrostysnow6913
      @sirfrostysnow6913 2 месяца назад +1

      That would make too much sense

  • @Spacialvekter
    @Spacialvekter 2 месяца назад +5

    For anyone who wasn't around during Forsaken, something weird was going on with Prime Engrams where Edge Transits dropped way, way more often than any other weapon from them, to the point where it turned into a massive meme.

  • @matthewtimms1764
    @matthewtimms1764 2 месяца назад +56

    Switching between Mountaintop with auto/harmony to a master of arms recluse 🤤

    • @bjcooper4365
      @bjcooper4365 2 месяца назад +28

      Recombination is gonna be better for that I bet

    • @Spooqi
      @Spooqi 2 месяца назад

      @@bjcooper4365I saw that it'll be able to roll with Ambitious Assassin + Recombination and i promptly creamed my booty jorts

    • @zdude0127
      @zdude0127 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@bjcooper4365Can confirm, Recombination is absolutely bonkers on Mountaintop.

  • @MaybyAGhost
    @MaybyAGhost 2 месяца назад +66

    I think many are sleeping on Luna's 50% Magnificent Howl damage buff. The perk description says kills with the bonus shots add more bonus shots and I feel some kind of Subsistence + Mag Howl combo will result in permanent 50% damage buff uptime on the weapon.
    Definitely excited to try it out!

    • @Spatan295
      @Spatan295 2 месяца назад +1

      Does subsistence work with reload damaged perks?

    • @Briggsian
      @Briggsian 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@Spatan295 typically, it does not as it's not coded as a reload

    • @ivantarjan7360
      @ivantarjan7360 2 месяца назад +5

      @@Spatan295 the thing is that you could get one kill, oneshot adds with subsistance and then depending on the max stacks you could get a whole mag of magnificient howl, that can be used to keep chaining or could stack with lucky pants

    • @jamieharper1051
      @jamieharper1051 2 месяца назад +8

      Yeah that Subsistence + Magnificent howl is the play for Luna. Let the Subsistence feed Luna ammo until you have enough head shot kills stacked to unleash the Magnificent howl

    • @Spatan295
      @Spatan295 2 месяца назад +2

      @@ivantarjan7360 ah I see because it chains the precision kills-then when you’re ready to actually reload, it stacks a new set of bullets with mag howl? Correct me if I’m wrong.

  • @kadenkinser7906
    @kadenkinser7906 2 месяца назад +105

    I get what they are going for with releasing the weapons per week, but it really destroys my enthusiasm to play onslaught for the rewards since all of the weapons I am interested (minus recluse) will be releasing week by week..,

    • @Fire4ward
      @Fire4ward 2 месяца назад +2

      And recluse isn’t even that good because they nerfed master of arms and it doesn’t have double damage perks.

    • @rowleyjefferson9335
      @rowleyjefferson9335 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Fire4wardrepulsor brace/destabilizing?? It's literally a better funnelweb lmao

    • @lt3880
      @lt3880 2 месяца назад +6

      @@rowleyjefferson9335 that combo is wildly overrated

    • @noface-29
      @noface-29 2 месяца назад +3

      Then don't play? If you don't find yourself wanting to play don't, so many players (especially on D2) play without having any enjoyment in it just don't play. Getting mad at time gating is kinda just dumb tbh go do something else till your weapon comes up, live your life.

    • @rowleyjefferson9335
      @rowleyjefferson9335 2 месяца назад +12

      @@noface-29 terrible viewpoint. People are allowed to have criticisms. People are allowed to point out flaws in the games they play. It's ok to call out developers on things they do wrong. If YOU like the current state of the game that's great. Doesn't mean other people have to like it too.

  • @Blackout-ff6ck
    @Blackout-ff6ck 2 месяца назад +28

    I just wished they didn't hide it at the bottom of the article, if they mentioned the loot being spread out yesterday during the stream I would have minded less. Felt like they were trying to hide it.

  • @Vyse1519
    @Vyse1519 Месяц назад

    I've been watching a bunch of your videos coming back from a break and I've gotta say, I'm absolutely loving your opening line game. Truly great stuff.

  • @Hashoeken
    @Hashoeken 2 месяца назад +25

    I'm really looking forward to getting a repulsor/MoA recluse for my gyrfalcon setup. I've always felt like destabilizing is overkill on gyrfalcon setups since you get so so much volatile rounds as it is, using that perk slot on something else just feels better imo

    • @Vaultyboi22
      @Vaultyboi22 2 месяца назад +2

      Unfortunately frenzy will be better.
      +15% damage, the same as MoA, and +100 handling/reload? MoA is just not worth it.
      Really wish it was but...

  • @TheWolfboy007
    @TheWolfboy007 2 месяца назад +46

    Partially bummed that some other former Pinnacles are missing from this lineup; I feel that Revoker could've swapped in for Succession and Oxygen SR3 for Hung Jury, and no love for Gambit as always, but it's still exciting to see these weapons back!

    • @ExtraordinaryFate
      @ExtraordinaryFate 2 месяца назад +13

      Not a single Gambit ritual sticks out to me except for Delirium, which I do hope comes back soon

    • @stevenkhan4203
      @stevenkhan4203 2 месяца назад +1

      Problem is that most of the other pinnacles that haven't already returned just aren't memorable enough. From Gambit you only have 21% Delirium and Hush - Hush was decidedly meh and Hammerhead easily wins the LMG slot. Oxygen has Hush's problem of being very mid and unmemorable, but it also has the issue of Meganeura - i.e. they would need to redesign the perk to a) be actually useful in the wake of Dragonflys buffs and Fireflys existence, and b) work on other weapons, which is probably a bit much work for a weapon very few can remember. I definitely agree Hung Jury again is too much, but if nothing else it IS the most memorable scout to a lot of people.
      As for Revoker, well, then you'd be rereleasing every Crucible Pinnacle at once and would reintroduce its perk. And Revokers stats and general feel gear it much more towards PvP, when they ideally want these guns to maintain some sort of balance. Plus getting non-Raiders or expac owners a taste of the good shit (TM), which I certainly approve of.

    • @shquankinket8068
      @shquankinket8068 2 месяца назад

      The thing is we’ve already got pretty much all of them back and their perks. We got breakneck(yeah you can’t get the roll) and we have killing Talley. Also the bow never really got much hype it was nasty though. But yeah I would’ve loved to see oxygen back instead of schlong jury. I don’t know how they would’ve brought back revolver especially with the new ammo system

    • @thenexus7343
      @thenexus7343 2 месяца назад +3

      Revoker broke the crucible, it can't come back imo

    • @CleopatraKing
      @CleopatraKing 2 месяца назад

      Yea I wish Python came back that shit was fire when it released

  • @pixzil
    @pixzil 2 месяца назад +11

    my favourite part of datto’s go figure was the amount of times people asked what roll he had

    • @interacting
      @interacting 2 месяца назад +2

      what was the roll lol

    • @KingJerbear
      @KingJerbear 2 месяца назад +2

      @@interacting Outlaw/Kill Clip

  • @potato1341
    @potato1341 2 месяца назад +92

    Mountain top lead from gold and recombination. Excellent.

    • @ac1dnet
      @ac1dnet 2 месяца назад +25

      ill be going for auto loading and recombination but its so sick im excited its crazy that it has recombination

    • @Copeharder00
      @Copeharder00 2 месяца назад +1

      I’m going impulse amplifier and vorpal, time to break out Anarchy!

    • @rakionyellowmind2293
      @rakionyellowmind2293 2 месяца назад +6

      Imma just get like 10 of them

    • @thomash8513
      @thomash8513 2 месяца назад

      @@ac1dnetnah it’s alh vorpal if ur swapping it’s the same as frenzy without having to wait

    • @_F_rog
      @_F_rog 2 месяца назад

      @@rakionyellowmind2293real, there’s too many fire rolls

  • @turnoffyourmind6235
    @turnoffyourmind6235 2 месяца назад +1145

    Shout out to bungie for actually figuring out how to time gate every single aspect of their company, from employment time to loot drops
    Edit: I see they’ve changed it to release all weapons by April 30th, we cried enough everyone be proud

    • @pooPbutwhole
      @pooPbutwhole 2 месяца назад +18

      They gotta fill the next 2 months with content somehow 🤷‍♂️

    • @Stereo-hb2lo
      @Stereo-hb2lo 2 месяца назад +44

      Had a feeling something like this would happen
      It was almost too good to be true

    • @darkcrypter3305
      @darkcrypter3305 2 месяца назад +51

      @@pooPbutwholethey really dont.

    • @TheFirstCurse1
      @TheFirstCurse1 2 месяца назад +13

      They really are disgusting

    • @Mashangi
      @Mashangi 2 месяца назад +40

      I'm not a fan of time gating either but you know damn well the sweaty tryhards will spam farm every god roll day 1 and spend 2 months crying there's nothing to do.

  • @catz_ee
    @catz_ee 2 месяца назад +8

    Mountaintop with ALH and Recombination will be amazing as a pocket Parasite major/champion killer, super excited to test it out.

  • @jonathansullivan6706
    @jonathansullivan6706 2 месяца назад +5

    I'm just glad to be getting Hammerhead back. That was my favorite machine gun on my old account, before sunsetting was introduced.

  • @insomniaddictesp
    @insomniaddictesp 2 месяца назад +8

    I’m actually looking forward to getting a Luna’s Howl just because on controller a 140 with precision recoil is going to be really good, and unique.

  • @blessedmack9609
    @blessedmack9609 2 месяца назад +23

    I'm glad that bungie is giving non-raiding players a way to get weapons that somewhat rival raid weapons. As someone that was only able to get Apex through the Riven's Wishes thing, I'm excited to get Forbearance and something that rivals commemoration.

    • @Spooqi
      @Spooqi 2 месяца назад +2

      Rampage + Killing Tally with Actium War Rig sounds nasty and I'm all for it

    • @bombshellblonde544
      @bombshellblonde544 2 месяца назад +2

      I wholeheartedly agree. My clan doesn't have enough people in it to raid, and I would be first-timing every raid if I tried so I can't do it with the LFG discord if I want to spare my sanity. Raiding is just not an option. I wanted Undercurrent but the couple times I got to farm for it, I never got a good roll. Being able to get Forbearance is really nice

    • @blessedmack9609
      @blessedmack9609 2 месяца назад +3

      @@bombshellblonde544 I totally get it. I haven't raided since Destiny 1. My clan has enough people but most of us don't really care for raiding and/or stopped playing the game due to bungie's screw-ups. I got really lucky with my first undercurrent drop, it had demo + voltshot, which was the roll I wanted so I'm happy.

  • @Ragumeatsauce
    @Ragumeatsauce 2 месяца назад +11

    Midnight coup with firefly and rampage/one for all looks nutty.

    • @shquankinket8068
      @shquankinket8068 2 месяца назад +2

      Just realized midnight has 90 aim assist. Guess my rose is being replaced

    • @Ragumeatsauce
      @Ragumeatsauce 2 месяца назад

      @@shquankinket8068 Rose still has the lightweight frame, so it has that going for it. I’m more so worried if Midnight Coup has the stats to be a solid pvp hand cannon.

  • @notarrat0767
    @notarrat0767 2 месяца назад +83

    Love the weapon rolls, can’t stand the time gate

    • @noface-29
      @noface-29 2 месяца назад

      Why?

    • @notarrat0767
      @notarrat0767 2 месяца назад +3

      @@noface-29 time gating has never been a good thing for normal Destiny players. Sure, it keeps the streamers from burning through everything in a day then complaining to their audience that there’s nothing to do, but for the vast majority of players. It serves no purpose.

    • @noface-29
      @noface-29 2 месяца назад +2

      @@notarrat0767 I get getting annoyed by it, but the general sentiment is that bungie is the worst thing on planet earth and that the time gating is some huge thing. When in all reality it just means that you play destiny a little less something which I feel like most people would benefit from lol.

    • @notarrat0767
      @notarrat0767 2 месяца назад +3

      @@noface-29 I don’t need Bungie to make that choice for me, and id argue most people feel the same. Let players play your game as much or as little as they want, time gating does nothing but do exactly what it’s doing right now: sour what should be an easy W for Bungie.

    • @noface-29
      @noface-29 2 месяца назад +2

      @@notarrat0767 but you don't get to make that choice for bungie, they don't owe us anything really if tomorrow they wanted to make it that if you died your account got banned they could it's they're game, which makes your entire point of bungie making your choice for you weird, you might play the game but it's not yours so why would you get a say in the decisions they make?

  • @Revokd91
    @Revokd91 2 месяца назад +49

    Time gating everything like a f2p mobile game is what always stopped me from me becoming addicted to this game. So thank you for that Bungie.

    • @eriksilva1924
      @eriksilva1924 2 месяца назад +3

      🤨

    • @ezequieII
      @ezequieII 2 месяца назад +5

      Genuinely seems that they are helping you lol

  • @joshaltea
    @joshaltea 2 месяца назад

    Cool, was considering coming back and then 1 minute in Bungie time-gated my interest

  • @th3luckiest
    @th3luckiest 2 месяца назад +6

    Im super excited for destabalizing rounds + killing tally, for hammerhead, feels like insane add clear

  • @lukatosic09
    @lukatosic09 2 месяца назад +8

    Blast furnace with kinetic tremors + frenzy sounds amazing, you get to have a slight damage boost to help out pulses with their low damage and a massive reload and handling boost to keep you shooting as much as possible amd tremors to actually allow you to clear ads and chunk majors in high level content.
    Plus I think frenzy would boost tremor damage

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 2 месяца назад +2

      Kill Clip doesn't, so Frenzy won't. Still nice

    • @lukatosic09
      @lukatosic09 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Michael-ee4uz ah that's a shame, oh well

    • @fenrisfafnir6490
      @fenrisfafnir6490 2 месяца назад

      Frenzy will buff kinetic damage as it’s a constant buff whereas kill clip requires a kill

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 2 месяца назад

      @@fenrisfafnir6490 the tremors will not receive damage buffs, only the bullets.

  • @TheUnclemike
    @TheUnclemike Месяц назад

    Thanks for taking about edge

  • @WheezyTsunami
    @WheezyTsunami 2 месяца назад

    Super helpful as always!

  • @franchise28_ts
    @franchise28_ts 2 месяца назад +1

    youve been cooking here sir Datto with the weapon reviews and opinions here recently... Im digging it.... How about when you destroy someones vault you turn it educational for everyone so we know why or why its not garbage... keep the vids coming, only reason to hang around right now is the content creators fueling the interest... thank you all

  • @paulhinterberger7438
    @paulhinterberger7438 2 месяца назад

    The realization of combining Envious/Cascade Point hit me just before you actually stated it (as soon as you said multiple perks in the columns) and I just started dying from laughter at the thought of mag-dumping 18 rounds into a boss in like 5 secs

  • @chronanton
    @chronanton 2 месяца назад +1

    As a One For All enjoyer myself I am very excited about Midnight Coup and Blast Furnace simply because both Firefly (on Coup) and Kinetic Tremors (on Blast) can activate One For All just by shooting or killing one enemy. Also One For All buffs Firefly's damage by 35% too (we can't test that with Kinetic Tremors yet but I don't think it's going to work like that since it's damage is fixed). My favourite weapon ever is Insidious with One For All and Dragonfly and I am really happy Bungie is putting similar perk combinations on more weapons (that aren't Tyranny of Heavens). Can't wait to farm them!

  • @ianchandler3282
    @ianchandler3282 2 месяца назад +10

    I will forever be sad that Threat Level wasnt picked to return.
    Still have my curated day one Scourge of the past drop in my Vault...
    But no I guess Hung jury can get reissued YET AGAIN

    • @Keksis7
      @Keksis7 2 месяца назад

      I 100% would've rather gotten Patron of Lost Causes or Randy's Throwing Knife over Hung Jury. 200s and 260s are much better then 180s in PvE imo, although I kinda also wish we had gotten something other then a scout rifle.

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Keksis7 You can get Randy's Throwing Knife from the Crucible right now.

  • @Tristan44-16
    @Tristan44-16 2 месяца назад +2

    Hey Datto I think you should try blast furnace with Kinetic tremors and one for all since kinetic tremors can proc one for all, seems like natural synergy and it might just be something you like!

  • @bikokeki
    @bikokeki 2 месяца назад +356

    my opinion has arrived

    • @ShervierJ
      @ShervierJ 2 месяца назад +40

      Hopefully your originality arrives next!

    • @IDECIDETHETRUTH
      @IDECIDETHETRUTH 2 месяца назад +13

      @@ShervierJDon’t hold your breath.

    • @Lilshadow-hz7km
      @Lilshadow-hz7km 2 месяца назад +4

      My comment has arrived

    • @memeulusmaximus
      @memeulusmaximus 2 месяца назад +5

      one day this joke will be funny

    • @sengan2475
      @sengan2475 2 месяца назад

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @ukaryotik
    @ukaryotik 2 месяца назад +1

    all i wanted is midnight coup annnnnd cant even get it for ages .... love it

  • @WatermelonCat941
    @WatermelonCat941 2 месяца назад +3

    Explosive Payload and Frenzy is a fantastic roll on Midnight Coup if you couldn't grab a Fatebringer with it. It hits like a truck after the handcannon buff

  • @xNeoNxCyaN
    @xNeoNxCyaN 2 месяца назад

    Hammerhead with destabilizing/killing tally is my personal weapon roll I’m looking out for the most, although that rampage killing tally is also really interesting too, other than that blast furnace, midnight coup, and mountaintop all good weapons in looking for tbh

  • @Seven-Lights
    @Seven-Lights 2 месяца назад +2

    I’m excited for Blast Furnace with kinetic tremors because it’s a four burst, so when enhanced, it could be legitimately amazing, even more so if one for all is triggered off kinetic tremors shockwaves.

  • @Michael88xx
    @Michael88xx 2 месяца назад

    It's going to be fun to watch hypeCross video after this mellow one ;) tnx for a good video

  • @xethaios
    @xethaios 2 месяца назад +3

    Re: Envious/Cascade, I don't see why it wouldn't, mag perks stick around after perk switch, and reservoir burst also sticks around on perk switch.

    • @julioforessi1336
      @julioforessi1336 2 месяца назад

      Even if it wasn't possible, so long as you have some way to reload your weapon instantly, cascade and BnS is being hyped up to be amongst the highest dps you can achieve in general with any legendary weapon. They dialled up the grenade launcher fantasy with this one. And keep in mind that BnS grenade launchers already had peak total damage, so in general they decided to make that weapon specifically incredibly cracked

    • @BenCarsonPinkie
      @BenCarsonPinkie 2 месяца назад

      I think it's less "will it work" and more "will Bungie try to stop it from working down the line".

  • @tyjames3339
    @tyjames3339 Месяц назад +1

    10:40 im also not usually a vorpal kinda guy, but that's only because its normally in the 4th column and replaces other better options like whirlwind or bait and switch. Since on falling guillotine, vorpal is in the 3rd column, it means you can double up on damage perks, and do vorpal AND one of the other two I mentioned, so its legitimately a viable option this time
    Edit: Nevermind, frenzy is in column 3 too lmao, more damage go brr

  • @i_am_dusky113
    @i_am_dusky113 2 месяца назад +3

    At least we can still get them after final shape drops, that’s a plus

  • @Talarue
    @Talarue 2 месяца назад +1

    KT/Frenzy on the blast furnace is interesting to me. I feel like there will be anti-synergy with KT/firefly where KT will take the last hit and get in the way of firefly.

  • @gnat8316
    @gnat8316 2 месяца назад +1

    Just for clarification everyone - the remaining weapons will come out one week at a time for 6 weeks following April 9…. 6 weeks from then to may 21 which is equal to guns remains. So last weapon will drop on may 21

  • @AmnesiaDream75
    @AmnesiaDream75 2 месяца назад +1

    Hammerhead with Rampage+Onslaught (shoutout OG Breakneck) will probably rip absurdly hard in pve and pvp so I'll be checking that out tyvm

  • @cbass555
    @cbass555 2 месяца назад +2

    Nice weapons we’ve seen for multiple seasons back again for another season & they might sunset them & bring them back for next season!

  • @Burninizer
    @Burninizer 2 месяца назад

    I think there were a few interesting perk rolls that are worth discussing:
    - Blast Furnace can get the improved reload with Firefly, and the AoE should proc Shoot To Loot. S2L/Dragonfly was my favourite roll on a lot of weapons, notably Wolftone Draw, and I think it'll be a nice quality of life combo for low end content.
    -Luna's Howl get a reworked version of Magnificent Howl that basically gives you turbo bullets for getting headshot kills and then reloading, and it's based on how many kills you get before reloading the mag. It also says that when it's active, headshot kills extend the duration. It sounds like Subsistence will help with getting that perk cranked on the first reload, and also for keeping it active for long chain headshot kills (again in lower level content). If you're looking for something fun to pull out in playlist strikes, that'd do it. I'm a huge fan of the old Subsistence DMT roll that you can't get anymore, so I'm definitely farming that one among others.

  • @tridentgreen3346
    @tridentgreen3346 2 месяца назад

    I'm hyped for Elsie's Raifu just for Zen/Headseeker in PVP, that sounds like a headshot 2 burst magnet. That, Mountaintop, Edge Transit and Hammerhead are probably the ones I'll be hard grinding god rolls for.

  • @nomad_specter
    @nomad_specter 2 месяца назад +1

    It’s not about disappointment it’s about availability. The limited edition skin for random drops will be less available because the they will literally be less available for the time between 4/9 and Final Shape.

  • @Amparii
    @Amparii 2 месяца назад +1

    Hopefully the Origin Trait will stack with other perks, have a Demo + Wellspring Forbearance with the Origin Trait and spam off abilities.

  • @Stormblessed15
    @Stormblessed15 2 месяца назад +1

    Is frenzy, kinetic tremors not a decent role for the Blast furnace? A reload perk and damage perk AND kinetic tremors on top of that?

  • @WarhammerEnjoyer
    @WarhammerEnjoyer 2 месяца назад

    The Falling Guillotine with chain reaction is very OP to get to wave 50, I got one yesterday and it carried me

  • @RiskyAuto
    @RiskyAuto 2 месяца назад

    Forbearance with wellspring demo and the origin trait would be insane at giving grenade energy

  • @shwamper7373
    @shwamper7373 2 месяца назад

    @Datto what's your take on backup mag swapping and perk swapping before dmg? Its looking like you may be able to get an envious/cascade point roll with BnS on edge transit. Swap to cascade before dmg and get the benefits of 3 perks.

    • @shwamper7373
      @shwamper7373 2 месяца назад

      To take it further if that roll also had a mag boosting perk and spike you could use backup mag to get 25 in the mag with envious and then swap to spike and boss spec.

  • @Rios-ov3xi
    @Rios-ov3xi 2 месяца назад +1

    Since you can get multiple perks in a column, you in theory could fill ambitious on edge transit, then switch to cascade point before damage…

  • @ListenToAJ
    @ListenToAJ 2 месяца назад +2

    so whatever the last weapon is, you only have 2 weeks to farm the ornament version??

  • @aeloswindrunner
    @aeloswindrunner 2 месяца назад

    I'm definitely curious about zen moment/rapid hit on the blast furnace for PvP as a workhorse weapon

  • @Deargo_Prime
    @Deargo_Prime Месяц назад

    thanks datto

  • @ItsDobbie
    @ItsDobbie 2 месяца назад +2

    They should’ve brought back Vanquisher VIII instead of Hung Jury imo

  • @deanzamiska8326
    @deanzamiska8326 2 месяца назад +2

    Ladies, gentlemen, all gerfalcon hunters!!!! WELCOME TO THE FEAST!!!

  • @wraithofkah5487
    @wraithofkah5487 2 месяца назад

    Hey Datto! I just wanted to touch on the Hung Jury statement. They could have brought back the Oxygen (cant remember the redt of the name) scout esepcially now with the origin trait. I think it would have brought back a lot of nostalgia for many players! But I digress.

  • @OMGLX
    @OMGLX 2 месяца назад

    Midnight Coup: Explosive Payload + Kinetic Tremors MIGHT proc KT in half as many shots, if the round itself and the explosion damage count separately. Will be looking to try that one out.

  • @Cry42
    @Cry42 2 месяца назад

    Just hoping I’m not having to wait until the final week of the rotation before I can start farming rolls on Midnight and Blast Furnace.

  • @sammiebray1661
    @sammiebray1661 2 месяца назад

    I will say for Falling Guillotine, for solo dungeon runs Vorpal/Bait and Switch with a double special could come in handy for some bosses.
    And for Hammer Head, I’m gonna hunt for Rewind/Killing Tally for my void Hunter, and Envious/Target Lock for DPS if it’s needed.

  • @RoyaltonDrummer922
    @RoyaltonDrummer922 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the opinion

  • @Emma-Lumi
    @Emma-Lumi 2 месяца назад +1

    gyrfalcon hunters really dont care about repulsor brace + destabilising rounds, because the destabilising rounds are already built into the exotic, that combination is more so for anyone not playing void at all

  • @Sione_d2
    @Sione_d2 2 месяца назад +4

    Forbearance getting power crept by forbearance shows how much better it is

    • @smurphy55656
      @smurphy55656 2 месяца назад

      It pretty much has the same perks as before with one or 2 new ones for both collums right?

    • @Vaultyboi22
      @Vaultyboi22 2 месяца назад

      Eh, it depends on how much ability energy the new origin trait gives.
      A big part of old forbearance was the healing you constantly got, it was like having half a devour on reload, which with forbearance you do a lot of.
      So if the new trait isnt good enough og forbearance will still be better imho

    • @Sione_d2
      @Sione_d2 2 месяца назад

      @@smurphy55656its not a big deal for more casual players but for people i know and for myself the demo chain roll when its enhanceable will just be better

    • @Sione_d2
      @Sione_d2 2 месяца назад

      @@Vaultyboi22 I mean for casuals the new forb prolly isn't worth it unless you dot have vow but for a lot of endgame players the new forb will be better when enhanced perks come out

    • @smurphy55656
      @smurphy55656 2 месяца назад

      @Sione_d2 I don't think casual players are gonna turn away what is probably the most powerful wave frame in the game even with chain reaction getting a nerf in final shape whatever kind of nerf it will be Id imagine it's still going to be extremely potent

  • @CoolerXavier
    @CoolerXavier Месяц назад

    I think Firefly and Rampage on the Midnight Coup will be fun as a legendary Ace for PVE

  • @martinprovo2389
    @martinprovo2389 Месяц назад

    Recombination Succession is GOAT'd in Gambit imo.
    An excellent anti-invader if you've got a crazy ad-clear build centered on on your energy primary.

  • @jimmottola
    @jimmottola 2 месяца назад +2

    Wish we got oxygen SR3 back with incandescent and firefly instead of hung jury, again. That would have been awesome in this sandbox.

  • @Naim_less
    @Naim_less Месяц назад

    First item that dropped for me was an Envious Assassin Bait and Switch Edge Transit. Well I guess the search is over.

  • @davilima7318
    @davilima7318 2 месяца назад

    I wish they would add all weapons in the pool on the release. this is great for all players. the following week limit to specific weapons

  • @axelschakramkh2481
    @axelschakramkh2481 2 месяца назад +1

    Destabilizing rounds rework idea. Keep the explosion and give the gun volatile rounds based on how many enemies was hit by the explosion.

  • @Weyerless
    @Weyerless 2 месяца назад +2

    Best part of the envious assassin to cascade point swap, that means you can dump most of, if not your entire reserves in a single bait and switch proc, which sounds absurd to me. Instantly made me the most excited about edge transit lmao

    • @ivantarjan7360
      @ivantarjan7360 2 месяца назад +1

      the only problem is that it doesn't autoload, it could be fixed with hunter dodge, shuriken or icarus. Either ways it'll probably have better dps than any other gl, even manually reloading

    • @Blanktester685
      @Blanktester685 2 месяца назад

      @@ivantarjan7360 it doesnt need to it can empty out almost all of its reserves

  • @loolya3
    @loolya3 2 месяца назад

    My question is: if we got any of our favorite weapons that are coming back with our favorite perk combinations 2 on the 3rd column and 2 on the 4th column if we enhance the 2 that we like , does the 2nd perk on the 3rd and 4th column , will the 2nd perk be gone on both the 3rd and 4th? Because i would like to enhance all 4 perks and change them depending on the activity

  • @xsorrowxkingx5051
    @xsorrowxkingx5051 Месяц назад

    The thing about the Recluse is 2 builds really make it shine with Repulsor Brace - Any void warlock, I've been having so much fun with void Verity's Brow, but it would also do great with Contraverse, Nothing Manacles, Briarbinds, even Nez Sin.
    But another build I think the Recluse truly shines with, is going to be void Armamentarium titan. But any void warlock/titan build that capitalizes on grenade spam is going to absolutely eat good with a repulsor/frenzy Recluse, it feels too good. My personal god roll is hammer-forged, ricochet rounds, range masterwork, with repuslor/frenzy. It feels fantastic and with volatile rounds, it can get a little crazy on void warlock with Feed the Void.

  • @detectivepinkpanther761
    @detectivepinkpanther761 2 месяца назад

    word of crota with destabilizing rounds and its origin trait does really well in dense add situations, but testing will need to be done

  • @Butterman733
    @Butterman733 2 месяца назад +1

    Lunas howl has been a 140 since the beyond light changes and before that it was changed to a 150

  • @XGoldenx03
    @XGoldenx03 2 месяца назад

    Midnight coup and M-top are my top two. I like smgs anyways more so recluse is there but i didnt really play black armory so idk about Blast or Hammerhead. Im liking these weapons i wish did took the scout from Leviathan instead of Hung Jury. I think its concurrent

  • @MrTmm97
    @MrTmm97 2 месяца назад +1

    17:28 ambitious assassin + frenzy for Mountaintop… ambitious is obvious…. Frenzy for damage and reload. Plus the self damage reduction on micromissle frame this around will make it way more user friendly. Coming back way stronger than when it was sunset.

  • @joelthomas9146
    @joelthomas9146 2 месяца назад +1

    Blast furnace with kinetic tremors and one for all sounds fun 👍 not sure if the damage buff works on the tremors though

  • @jmsanderson
    @jmsanderson 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh I would have loved the chat if they had mentioned the timegate during stream

  • @ValiantNomad
    @ValiantNomad 2 месяца назад +2

    For the PvP mains out there, blast furnace with headseeker and kill clip effectively turns it into a high impact pulse rifle with more forgiveness. Definitely will be something you'll want to go for if you grind PvP often at all.

    • @derek3154
      @derek3154 2 месяца назад +1

      Headseeker/Firefly looks fun in 6’s🤠

    • @ValiantNomad
      @ValiantNomad 2 месяца назад

      @@derek3154 Definitely could be. It'll 100% be the new king of pulse rifles though regardless. Both in availability and power.

    • @derek3154
      @derek3154 2 месяца назад

      @@ValiantNomad from the stream it had no recoil🦾

  • @joesaunders84
    @joesaunders84 2 месяца назад

    be going for the demo chain on forbearance that isnt available on the vow version and ill keep my vow version for ambitious chain

  • @dylanmiller1140
    @dylanmiller1140 2 месяца назад

    Over under tap the trigger is gonna be a great PvP machine gun with how big over shields are right now

  • @warriorman
    @warriorman 2 месяца назад +1

    Love all of these coming back...but the lockout is going to screw me if the one I'm waiting for is in those last two weeks of releases as I'll be gone for multiple weeks to end may and into june

    • @Fire4ward
      @Fire4ward 2 месяца назад

      I bet Hammerhead will be last and Blast Furnace will be second to last. 😑

  • @LordTonzilla
    @LordTonzilla 2 месяца назад +18

    Once we don't have so many good solar artifact mods to abuse, it is SO Gyrfalcon time

    • @ValiantNomad
      @ValiantNomad 2 месяца назад +4

      5 words. Recluse, Destabilizing Rounds, Repulsor Brace.

    • @MrRemi1992
      @MrRemi1992 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@ValiantNomad rip those that farmed the title lol

    • @AmnesiaDream75
      @AmnesiaDream75 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@MrRemi1992 Classy Contender is still a good pick for Gyrfalcon builds, so we'll see. I know I'll have fun trying both

    • @snipey8623
      @snipey8623 2 месяца назад +4

      @@ValiantNomad I have to be one of few people who thinks destabilizing rounds is one of the worst perks in the game especially for gyrfalcon hunters

    • @ValiantNomad
      @ValiantNomad 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MrRemi1992 And that Funnelweb god roll I focused with over 240+ engrams..

  • @martinprovo2389
    @martinprovo2389 Месяц назад

    Rampage + Killing Tally + Actium sounds like it'll go hard.

  • @thefunny3320
    @thefunny3320 2 месяца назад

    as a gyrfalcon hunter
    as soon as elsies rifle was revealed as void, i was hoping for it to get loose change in the fourth column so i could do repulsor + loose change. unfortunate to see it in the third column :(

  • @Cr1t1calMystic
    @Cr1t1calMystic 2 месяца назад +1

    Was honestly excited for half of these weapons it just sucks that the half im excited for is time gated for whatever reason.

  • @Cokebeard
    @Cokebeard 2 месяца назад

    Hullabaloo for the guardian games was the new Edge Transit. i got 4 or 5 of those for every one of the other two. they were really pushing out that thing. thank god i was able to grind out the rolls on wanted on Title and Tarax. granted it took all three weeks for both. got the Hulla roll i wanted on day two and a bilzillion others i broke down.

  • @Farengast
    @Farengast 2 месяца назад +2

    My briarbinds warlock has been waiting for a void SMG that can roll repulser brace + Frenzy.

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I missed that on Title too. A shame because of it's origin trait Classy Contender.

  • @gibster9624
    @gibster9624 2 месяца назад

    I am curious how Impulse Amplifier and Frenzy pair together. If the reload speed is really nice I think it would be an absolutely fantastic roll for DPS situations where you have weapons like Dragon's breath on the heavy slot. Otherwise I think ALH and Frenzy with recombination as a back up option is the way to go. Frenzy for boss DPS and recombination for NFs and other activities where damage windows aren't timed.

  • @doktorsmiles2034
    @doktorsmiles2034 2 месяца назад +1

    Datto not thinking about midnight coup when talking about favorites which are timegated...
    Datto how do you miss this?

  • @quubey_
    @quubey_ 2 месяца назад +1

    I don’t rlly hate that it’ll be easier to focus the weapons in the beginning and knock them out right away

  • @crisisroomba
    @crisisroomba 2 месяца назад

    Exited for Elsie’s Rifle :D

  • @josuepaiva4551
    @josuepaiva4551 2 месяца назад +1

    What is the website who Datto uses to read some perks?

  • @dylanmiller1140
    @dylanmiller1140 2 месяца назад +1

    Harmony Mountaintop with MOA recluse is gone be so good dude. Just constant damage and you can switch back and forth. Void hunter also having Volatile is just gonna be Nuts. That and hammerhead is gonna be so good I won’t need an exotic

  • @xavierforget
    @xavierforget 2 месяца назад +5

    Forbearance: Demo, Wellspring or Chainreaction with the origin trait could be good for ability regen.
    Succession: Discord, Recombination would be good for a Stacking buff to burst majors without spending ammo.
    Fallen Guillotine: Vorpal, Frenzy with Surrounded, Bait and Switch.
    Midnight Coup: Explosive Payload, Shoot to Loot with Kinetic Tremors, One for All. Explosive could good for both Kinetic Tremors might proc with less shots, Shoot to Loot Kinetic is a classic, Explosive and One for All is just damage.
    Recluse: Repulsor Brace and Destabilizing Rounds. Subsistence and Master of Arm.
    Mountain Top: Auto-Loading and Frenzy or Recombination.
    Edge Transit: Cascade Point and Bait and Switch. Though Chain Reaction and Deconstruct could be interesting for add clear, could possibly make an infinite ammo heavy.
    Hammer-Head: Rampage and Killing-Tally or Onslaught. Destabilizing Rounds could be interesting instead of Rampage.
    Blast Furnace: Kinetic Tremors and One for All.
    Luna's Howl: Heal Clip or Subsistence and Incandescent or Heal Clip Magnificent Howl.
    Hung Jury: Kinetic Tremors, Explosive Rounds or One for All. Same reasons as Midnight Coup.
    Elsie's Pulse: Repulsor Brace and Desperate Measures or Destabilizing Rounds.
    Alot of interesting rolls on these weapons. Trying to get unique rolls on the returning raid weapons.

    • @Michael-ee4uz
      @Michael-ee4uz 2 месяца назад

      I'm super curious about Explosive/Tremors too. Could be amazing for one week and then get patched if it works.

    • @Juggue
      @Juggue 2 месяца назад

      @@Michael-ee4uzwhy would it get patched? Its obviously intended

  • @SPA2TAN117
    @SPA2TAN117 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh yay…More reskins of existing models. NEW GUNS GUYS!

  • @Jallahz
    @Jallahz 2 месяца назад +1

    Mountaintop with auto-loading holster + recombination could be crazy.
    Hammerhead I think I'm going for feeding frenzy + killing tally.

    • @just.a.jester8233
      @just.a.jester8233 2 месяца назад

      Reconstruction already auto-reloads over time, plus, ambitious assassin plays much better, especially when paired with Recluse, all while allowing another perk slot for something like hot swap or something

    • @Jallahz
      @Jallahz 2 месяца назад

      @@just.a.jester8233 recombination, not reconstruction :)

    • @Jallahz
      @Jallahz 2 месяца назад

      @@just.a.jester8233 ambitious assassin would be a really good shout, you're right