Magician REACTS to Derren Brown (Bonus Angry RANT)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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That's the blackest, clubbiest four of hearts I've ever seen.
I love Derren Brown. Him debunking some stuff makes people believe more in what he is doing and saying in other places, wether it's true or not. With him you are never sure if it is a trick or not and this makes him a great magician or illusionist in my opinion. He is not only fooling with his tricks but also with his persona.
I think he explained this trick before. It's some sort of hypnosis and using keywords like "try to lift" instead of "lift the cup". So the word "try" already implies that it is not possible but you should try anyway (and fail).
What's great there is that his explanations are further pseudoscience. If you read NLP books, the use of the word "try" is a big deal. "Try to lift your arm" the person psyches themselves out and they cant do it. And that probably works some of the time.
What tells you that Darren Brown isn't using psychology, but tricks, is his consistency. If he was using psychology he would be successful some of the time and not all of the time.
I agree with you that Brown is brilliant, as part of his act and persona he rattles off actual psychological principles and that makes him very convincing.
But lets take sales for example. If you give a person a higher price and then lower it you have a much higher odd of a purchase than if you give a person a straight price. This is tried and true. However, in no world has any marketing guru or sales person managed a 100% sales rate.
Derren Brown flourishes in his act a 100% sales rate. And only magic can do that.
saying "try" to lift is enough to make it impossible for people to lift their arm? i wish the world was that simple honestly. life would be much easier
Derren is easily my favourite magician and as he always says "I'm always honest about my dishonesty".
As somebody who has performed countless hypnotic inductions, I'd say this is a very clear demonstration of suggestion.
Anybody who has learned hypnosis can have your arm floating above your head within 30 seconds to a minute, never mind a weak hand after a tonne of misinformation and prior knowledge of what he can do (And therefore, the inbuilt expectation that you will succumb to his suggestions) thrown at you.
The vast majority of his act is pure, classical magic tricks disguised as psychological feats but every once in a while he does some genuine mindfuckery and he is a true master of it.
By the way, I only managed to watch this video because I have a proxy running. For your videos that get blocked in certain countries (They usually won't show up in a search in that country) like the Got Talent ones you mentioned in another video, you could upload a couple of seconds long video with a link in the description to said blocked video so people can proxy their way onto it. It's a dirty workround and maybe more effort than it's worth but it's the only way I can think of.
Yeah, I thought so. Ah, interesting, I might just post the links on twitter for the ones that get blocked. Seems like the easiest way. Thank you for going through the trouble and watching this :)
I feel like I've missed some magic. Because I'm so familiar with things like hypnosis and cold reading principles. I dont think I could I ever be convinced that I couldn't do something like lift my arm. There's a mental block there for me. Maybe some people truly can be forced mentally to lift their arm above their head. I have no idea.
For the mug lift trick, notice how long Derren got him in that outstretched position. I wouldn't be surprised if lactic buildup had something to do with the effect.
one observation is that you have to hold your hand in a specific position in order to balance a crystal on top... that could be helpful or harmful
Aidan Brumsickle+ give it a try.
The power of seggestion and hypnosis is amazing. Especially if it's Darren Brown performing.
Learned my lesson a long time ago to always carry a deck specifically for those idiots that want to show me a trick. This way they never need to touch my good desks.
THANK YOU FOR REACTING TO HIM!!! I love Derren Brown! If you ever have a spare hour watch the episode "Push" if you haven't already! It's on RUclips (I've spent way too many hours watching those sort of things from him on RUclips...)
MORE DERREN BROWN REACTIONS PLEASE!!! HE IS MY FAVOURITE AND A SUPER INTELLIGENT ATHEIST.
The mug/plate thing is likely an electro-magnet setup. If you look at the mug when they show a close up of it there's a metal bottom. Why would a ceramic mug has a metal bottom?
This is just physical angles and restrictions. If the crystal was in his palm he could have lifted the mug, it was all about having to keep his hand flat in that position and what it does to your ability to leverage. Same with pressure on the back of the neck, etc.
And the finger thing is not hypnosis, it's culling people with unusual flexibility and joints.
The plate and cup is easy if you're familiar with Chinese "fortunes", but not sure about the pencil part.
Its not hypnosis... its whats called 'the power of suggestion' and once he finds somebody who is succeptable to it he can pretty much take advantage of their succeptablity. We dont see what else he did before they camera was turned on. Im sure he already knew the guy would make a good subject.
correct me if I'm wrong but suggestion is pretty much hypnosis without (or before) the induction
So about that whole watch statement he made, it's not entirely false. While there hasn't been any long term studies, some small scale studies show that some people make the watch stop completely and other stop it from keeping correct time. Yet those same people can use a solar powered watch with no problem.
Aro Pay you'd care to provide those studies?
Victor Selve well, I was watching a show on the science channel talking about strong and weak EM fields in people. In that show they talked about and showed their studies, a few of which showed how electronics are affected by some people. That being said, I went looking for those studies after seeing your comment....and they are nowhere to be found. Not a single one of them, and the psychic abilities and aura "testings" are full of shit...so I stand corrected, there is zero scientific proof.
Recently I saw Dynamo demonstrating "too heavy to lift," whatever it's called. I gather it has something to do with hypnotizing the other person into a state of weakness. Hypnosis seems to be a major component of magic.
Spidey has a DVD thing he released on hypnosis called Induction. I think you should check it out :)
Peeps, try doing this yourself. Holding the back of your hand flat means you have to stretch your entire arm and thus its much harder to lift. No hypnosis at all, people confuse hypnosis with the placebo effect, which is real. Your boy tom out!
I don't know much about hypnotism and stuff but what I think is....maybe it's human psychology that the guy subconsciously does not want to let the crystal fall off his hand...because he finds it precious somewhere in his mind subconsciously. I would not have thought about it if he did not have kept his phone (or whatever it was) on his neck. It also makes him protect his phone subconsciously.
I totally know whatever Derren Brown was doing here... its not really Hypnosis (but probably part of it) it is called NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming), and using the power of Suggestion and Subconscious command (programming him that the crystal was reacting negatively on him and suggesting the crystal was getting "heavy" as he lifts the cup). The Crystal, cup, pencil, plate, and mobile phone are just mediums of suggestions. But Derren was undeniably GREAT on NLP/Hypnosis/Illusion/Showmanship and Suggestion
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I love Derren Brown man, he always talks a lot of bullshit for his tricks but in the end he's very honest about it. He even had a few projects concerning faith healing and these kinds of myths where he'd go out and get rid of some of that crap by just learning it and showing how it's nothing but monetizing assholes with sneaky mindtricks on those stages.
+Jeremy Koster yeah I love that about him!
Best scenario? Say "let me finish my routine then you can do a trick" finish your routine then do whatever you want, like walk away, with the cards
+Eduard Todor *Post a "throwaway email address" and I'll explain how Derren Brown did THIS trick. He's quit a a showman, and it's worth watching all his other performances. There are quite a few on RUclips. Also you may want to, as you watch the performance, try to figure out.... how he does what he does. Among other things he did develop* ( _yes you can learn this_ ) *a "photographic memory", and an "enhanced memory", "cold reading" etc.etc. Whether you decide to communicate or not, do find and read "Frogs into Princes" and "Trance-Formations" by Richard Bandler and John Grinder. You'll pick some stuff there which would improve your delivery. Cheers !:-))*
*P.S. As for that "ruined deck of cards", next time tell "would be magicians", .....JOKINGLY ....,.. that "A Magician never lends to anybody ....1. His Bike, 2. His Wife/Girlfriend,.... and ....3. His Magic Props ! That should drive home the message ! :-))*
Ahh...I got it now! Issy Simpson put crystals on Simon Cowell and David Walliam's necks and merely suggested they couldn't lift the box. That little witch!
Hahaha
I'm guessing the first one is actually hypnosis, and the other two are illusions and gimmicks. Hypnotizing a good actor for one small effect is probably not the hardest thing in the world. The real trick is to make us think the other two tricks were hypnosis as well.
MY SPIN - Brown fragments your consciousness with simple words. In other words he breaks a chain of impulses that allows the brain to perform the simplest of tasks. (like tapping your head while rubbing your belly) . In music we call that "Independence" . Drummers or pianists can split a train of consciousness into 6 distinct paths. You practice this till you achieve "Muscle memory" . In other words you put every limb in auto pilot and let it roll. You do not THINK " Oh left hand hits a C# chord and right hand does an arpeggio (using terms for explanation) . The brain by passes any "Synopsis" (direct connection to any part of the body) The brain is also a “small-world” network, in which each part is only a few neural connections away from any other part: any local response is integrated into a global perception affecting the entire brain.
A crystal "May" influence a Synopsis to the point you are so concentrated in holding a pencil, that other Synopses (like standing up) begin to demand more attention and your ability to hold a pencil becomes almost impossible.
Brown may "poo-poo" crystals but somehow he can exert the same influence in your nerve system (he may just have a very high frequency generator in his jacket that makes the "victim" confused - THAT in fact si what a crystal vibration would do. Except Brown can tune those frequencies by dialing frequency X to any amplitude (power) he wants.
He also says the word heavy multiple times which tells your subconscious something will be heavy it's really cool to study
Eduard I feel your pain. Bending cards is a perfectly acceptable reason to start a fight. I'll back you up.
I'll uppercut a scrub if I see that from now on
So, t's not a remotely controlled electromagnet in the table, and special China with steel embedded within it?
It's about authority and suggestibility. He definitely spent time finding the right subject who was open to suggestion. But most importantly the subject believes Derren is an authority figure when it comes debunking occult/psychic phenomenon.
We use authority as a way to subconsciously make decisions without cognitive load, literally it's a way to arrive at a conclusion without actually thinking.
Don´t wry, u can actually do this to urself, I have done it many times in different ways and hypnotized a friend who willingly said it was ok, but he panicked in the midst because he didn´t feel like he had full control :)
My mom has that problem she can’t wear standard watches they will stop working after awhile, she is fine with digital watches though.
Absolutely hypnosis. He started with a preframe to alter/bend the belief regarding crystals then packed it full of suggestion. then each part compounded the belief for the next part as old matey was in an light trance state.
dude really like the concept of your channel keep it up :)
finally you reacted to a hypnosis performance! btw your bonus rant is dope lol i was laughing so hard dude, i hope your card is okay tho hahaha
It's called convert hypnosis he use nerolinguistic programming. Have you ever bought something at a store got home and said to yourself why I did I buy this. It's position it's place in the words around it that program your brain to want it. Same concept only smaller scale. Plus watch it again his hand was held in the position for a bit before trying to lift the cup try lifting something after your hand is held up for a minute then hold the coffee cup for 30 seconds then put anything on top of your hand you'll have the same effect. This is basic psychology and linguistics. I only revealed it because it's not a magical methos
Never ever, ever, ever give the audience your pack of cards. EVER. No exception.
Then they accuse you for using trick decks lol. There's no winning XD
Find the most trusting person to just shuffle at the beginning - if necessary. It's just never worth handing over your instruments.
You don't have to prove anything. People with think what they want anyway. If you position yourself from a demonstrating point of view, then the audience will relax. It's very common for the audience to have the competitive view point, from the start - but it's how you present yourself.
I mean, sure if you're doing a show I agree. This was a casual hangout at a bar, so I was a lot more chill about stuff, was more of a "let me show you some stuff I've been working on" type thing
Chris Ramsay did a similar effect. He never said how he did it.
Derren Brown must have been the most famous and outstanding atheist out there among magicians. He studies everything and debunked lots and lots of 'em
Eduard, I'm enjoying your videos, glad I discovered you. Tell you what ... I'm beginning to think that the principles of misdirection and illusion are being used in our governments. It would be very interesting to hear to talk about what you know, with what the gov't. is telling us every day.
Love the rant
derren brown probably did with just power of suggestion
That's what hypnosis is.
+Eduard Todor am an ameture hypnotist...what I meant was he probably didnt hypnotised him earlier off camera...he can do it with just some hypnotic suggestions.
Ah I see what you mean. Yeah maybe, but it could also be a full induction
whats the name of the color change u did at the beggining? or where to find it, ty :)
It's the classic pass :)
Hi! In my marathon of Fool Us, I stumbled in to Caleb Wiles performance. I thought it was a great one, happening intirely in the hands of another person and Penn&Teller also were impressed so I was wondering if you have seen it...? And if not, maybe react to that :)
You should react to the penn and teller coin fish trick.
Oooh I think I've seen it but it's been so long I don't remember what happened. Good idea!
Miser's Dream with a cute girl and a fishtank.
He's actualy using pseudo hypnosis and hypnotic language (like try to lift it).
Cup and plate, pretty much sure could be done with a strong electromagnet under the table. Pencil seems a bit more tricky.
+Arūnas Liuiza nah definitely not, he lifts the cup of the table but still isn't able to lift further. If it was a magnet the cup wouldn't leave the table
Eduard Todor I think they could control the strength of the electromagnet. So it seems easier sometimes and harder some other times. The pencil I can’t think of how he could achieve it. But I’m pretty sure it’s not hypnosis.
Eduard Todor electromagnet strength is highly tuneable, so the cup is completely possible. You start with weaker current, let him pick it up in the air. And then make it stronger. Actually it is even possible to make that cup levitate in the air on its own with an electromagnet.
Hey guys, I'm no magician or anything but from a layman's perspective you could absolutely do the cup and bowl with magnetism. exactly right that the power of an electromagnet can be increased or dewcreased just like the volume on your TV. The pencil seemed alot harder to me as well cause you couldn't get a big enough magnet in it to have the desired effect. But when I watched it a second time it seems very obvious what he does. Notice he doesn't really let him take ANY control of tyhe pencil til Derren is ready. If you look how Derren is holding it, it would be so easy to gimmick the pencil with a little upside down T-bar or something he can grip to physically hold the pencil in place. Maybe its a bit of everything! Magnets, gimmicks and light suggestion all working together at once ;-)
Arunas Liuiza+ if that is what you think the trick is then you clearly don't know this man's talents. you should def check it out. he's all over you tube
Trick is so great my eyes are like bro that is not the 4 of hearts
congrats for 6k subs bro.
can you react rommy rafael please.
thanks.
Thanks bro, yeah I've been meaning to!
I'm not sure if Brown did it this way but without giving away to much I have a dinner plate that you can do that with, and the one I have works the same way that the light and heavy box trick works.
Please do one of Derren's magic tricks!
Not much wow factor in those tricks unless you're the one trying to lift the cup. Weird and cool, sure, but nothing you'd pay to see. :)
the guy he was doing the trick on is an actor.. dont you think its also plausible that he was.......... acting lol
Now i know what to do if we ever meet
Is there any possibility of him doing pre show work?
This is crazy mentalism at its finest.
Right? Love it.
He didn't hypnotize him beforehand. This was all realtime. Very basic, it's just suggestion.
I think under table its electromagnet and inside a cup and a Chicken is a storng magnet
Nah I don't think so, because he lifted it off the table but was still struggling. If it was magnets as soon as he lifts it off the table it would be easy to lift it all the way
Eduard Todor actually there are neo magnets its realy strong k put one (10mmx2mm) 30 inches from another and they move trought my room and touch they are realy strong
Eduard Todor neomagnets which is 20x8mm can lift Up 10kg
You don't understand what I'm saying. I'm saying the strength magnetic attraction is exponential, stronger the closer you get. If he was able to lift it off the table he'd be able to lift it all the way
Eduard Todor yeah thats right
where do you from? is it night now in ur country?
Yep, I did that and this is classic hypnosis.
That's not how hypnosis works at all. I don't know how it's done but my guess would be an electromagnet.
Actually that is how hypnosis works. It is the power of suggestion. Derren Brown is also an expert at Neuro-linguistic programming or NLP. You don't have to go through the induction technique of "You are feeling sleepy" for it to be hypnosis.
Ron Thompson you are stringing random things you have heard about into a seemingly coherent picture. Fist of all, NLP has been discredited scientifically (look it up) and Derren even goes to great lengths to expose this in his books (check it out). He might mention it during performances just as he does crystals in this video. He does so because people are naíve and will fall into the same trap you have (no offense). As for hypnosis, you can't make people not be able to pick up things, act like chickens, or pretty much any of the exaggerations seen in popular culture. Hypnosis looks a lot like sleep, patients under it can focus more intensely on specific things, and the types of things that can be suggested are more related to stimuli than anything else (e.g., you may tell them to imagine the smell of cheese vividly; you can't tell them not to be able to pick up things). Other than that, they are pretty aware and some can choose to come out of their state at will. Others might just fall asleep instead.
Bogdan Barbu, I respectfully disagree with you. I have studied hypnosis in college (3 credits) and have been hypnotized and have hypnotized quite a few times. The psychological mind is made up of three parts, the ID, the Ego and the Super Ego. The ID is "fun" part of the brain and doesn't think logically. It is the part that acts impulsively, not realizing there might be consequences. The Ego is the "rational" part of the brain It can think deductively. It is often in conflict with the ID and tries to keep the ID in check. The Super Ego is the "moral compass." It prevents the ID and/or Ego from doing anything that might be wrong or dangerous. Hypnosis gets the Ego to take a "back seat" and allows the ID to become dominant. The Super Ego is still watching, though, so if the hypnotist is not able to get the subject to do anything that person would not do in an unhypnotized state, like kill someone or strip naked. The Super Ego will snap them out immediately, as will inappropriate touching. The ID believes anything it is told. Therefore, if the ID is told that a pencil, because it contains lead, is too heavy to hold or a crystal will cause weakness, the ID, not being able to rationalize reacts accordingly. So, yes, hypnosis can make you not be able to lift things.
As for NLP, Derren Brown does use what appears to be a NLP technique in one of his videos. "Derren Brown vs Celebrities | TOP 5 TRICKS" in the third segment: ruclips.net/video/PrlFGPB0rpg/видео.html
I understand it has been discredited, maybe what it is, is subliminal suggesting.
I feel that the subject in Eduard's video was hypnotized using an information overload induction. He is given so many "facts" about crystals in such a short time that the Ego, cannot process them all and the ID takes over, while the Ego is trying to go through "fact checking." The ID really does think that the cup is heavier with the crystal on the back of his hand. Being an awkward position to try to lift the cup only adds to the proof that the cup is heavier. That makes it easier for the ID to believe the pencil is also heavy.
Ron Thompson I did not think you were being disrespectful at all. At any rate, this lifting business is a variation of a very old trick done by magicians. See ruclips.net/video/cTrcUp2-NjA/видео.html for an example by Pen and Teller. I'm sure you will agree that the two men there are not under hypnosis. It's likely that a similar technique was used here. But regarding theories about how hypnosis works, as far as I know, there is no consensus in the scientific community so far. I do have a little bit of a background in neuroscience but it doesn't inform me much on this topic and I do not claim to be an expert in psychology either. (I'm really a software engineer.) I would not like to embarrass myself by making any claims about the different theories but perhaps other people more knowledgeable on the subject can contribute to our conversation. :)
Bogdan Barbu it is sometimes hard to disagree without sounding like one is putting the other down. I just wanted you to know that I respect your ideas, even though, I think you are mistaken in certain aspects. I can't see how an electromagnet could be used to make the cup heavier. below the table was visible in many shots and an electromagnet couldn't have been used directly. I do believe that was hypnotic suggestion. However, I do agree with you as it comes to the cell phone and the plate of food. The plate was positioned right over the center of the table support, which could have held an electromagnet. The plate could have had a piece of metal glued on the bottom. It is conceivable that magnet could have been strong enough to make the cup heavier, if the cup also had a metal bottom. But that doesn't explain the pencil.
Issy Simpson on AGT used a box with suction bottom and a pack of playing cards holding the suction mechanism in place. That is why she was able to move the box when she removed the cards.
Penn & Teller probably used an electromagnet beneath the stage where the box was above. Don't know where Teller came from at the end, probably from off stage while the two guys took their seats.
Can u react to Paul Gertner unshuffled on fool us? Ur gonna really enjoy this one
I had someone do the 52 card pickup to me....
They drop my cards I drop them hahaha
Eduard Todor P.S. Nice shuffle
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if they ever ruin my cards oh boi, I will do the spring right in their mouth haha
spray em down lol
Tsk! Surprised at you. No hypnosis or suggestion involved in these tricks.
Derren doesn't claim to use psychic abilities (which do exist, but we won't argue), but he does pretend to use hypnosis, mind control, suggestion, NLP etc. I can assure you that everything he does is achieved through straightforward conjuring.
Lior Suchard, on the other hand, does pretend to have psychic abilities, and thoroughly deserves to be debunked.
Eh, no, it wasn't. I know how these tricks were done, and it didn't involve hypnosis. But if you want to discuss hypnosis, feel free. It's a subject I happen to know a great deal about. In fact I gave my first stage demonstrations of hypnosis when I was seventeen, and I gave many hundreds of demonstrations of hypnosis over a 30-year period. I also ran courses in hypnosis for many years, and have used hypnosis in a forensic setting (as a memory enhancement technique). So, sorry to burst *your* bubble, but hypnosis was not involved in these tricks.
I don't believe in psychic abilities (even though I have experienced something extraordinary in my life) and do believe in hypnosis, however I do agree with you that hypnosis was not used here. It's something much simpler like electromagnetism. You can tell when they turn it off while he's trying to lift the plate. I do want to learn hypnosis though. I've never been able to find anyone that can actually teach it really well as a science and not some pseudo bs.
It’s called physiological manipulation
Electromagnet in table.
did anyone else watch this just for the rant
Haha well thank you for watching!
😁
hope you make a cool footage for me to edit bro😂😂
Go for Derren Brown's live shows mate.. Like enigma!!!
For example Hypnosis act of "Enigma"
Ending act of "Enigma"
Svengali act of "svengali"
Oracle act of "the evening of wonders"
All those are live legitimate mentalism acts done at its best.. His performance and showmanship skills are out of this world..
Thank you very much for this video as well
Appreciate the support! Definitely will do some of his shows too!
good work
You look *exactly* like my drug dealer, you could be twins.
Man, do not ever put your voice in the left channel and the video sound in the right one. Annoying AF!
THAT SMIRK
lol
Darren Braun is always telling that it’s all bs. He is the best)
First!
fourth? xD
lmao you cant do this
Nope, I was here first. I just watched the video before saying so, LoL
already got a subscriber in spain! nice video routine, keep it up :)
Please teach me that opening trick! :(
Magnets
The like seems to have an error
waking hypnosis, neuro linguistic programming. very interesting
Electromagnetism?
am i the only one disturbed by you calling clubs hearts.. its the 4of clubs.. but anyway
Looks like hypnosis to me as well.
right?
Eduard are you on Facebook?
Thank you I hope you continue doing these reactions 👍
Of course! I'm out here grinding, thank you for watching :)
Eduard Todor make reaction for tommy wonder nest of boxes
why do you shake your hands when you pasS? It looks much better when you gently riffle, watch Bill Kalush he doesn't even fuckin move at all
+miamimagicians I've seen it. He does it with one card, it's not a full deck pass.
Kalush doesn't move at all when he does the pass, in person the deck doesn't even make a noise. On the video he's passing about 4 cards.
React to Steven dealere belgium got talent is awesome
Can we see the cards? How in the hell can you tell us the story and not show the cards? C'mon Eduard!!
wtf? somehow I got unsubscribed to you.. I was wondering why you hadn't shown up in my feed for a while. =/ Stupid RUclips.
yes and yes and yes
thats hipnosis....
Stage hypnosis...
You shouldn't hit people
Four of hearts
React to Paul Gertner on Fool Us
Shout out to no Biggie smalls!
Hello again +Eduard Todor! :-) I know you have a ton of people asking you for your reaction about this or that magic act, but this is an 8 minute video I'd like you to see (not react) about Will Tsai, by Captain Disillusion, a guy who's in the business of visual effects. He uses some corny facepaint, but his content is solid. I'm quite aggravated about the recent trend by "magicians" to release videos full of VFX instead of actual skill-based magic like how you start each video. What do you think? :-)
youtube DOT com/watch?v=_dSp_f0f9gE
hypnosis is not real litle kid
Eduard please reaction hypnotic videos denny darko from indonesia 😊😊
P. Ratnasarii please don't, there is no subtitle in that video. He'll no get what Denny said.
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Okay no problem ... but the action video Mr. limbad and pak tarno eduard I think also enjoy 😊😊😊
Someone seems angry :v
hahaha
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