For some reason, the ending got cut out during the render so if you want to see the last minute or so, go to around 19 minutes in this video ruclips.net/video/FFgiLrbA_tM/видео.html
Paper mario 1 is not peak but definetely the pioneer for the paper mario games. TTYD perfected the formula and after super paper mario they decided to just dump the series in the trash
I haven't played any of them except super. I don't really like turn based combat that much in a story based game, to me it feels like it breaks the flow of the game, so I don't think I would enjoy the first ones as much. I also played mario RPG and the timed button mini games and battles either being completely inconvenient and basically useless or way too difficult was my least favorite part of the game. I don't think that those games are bad or anything, I just get more enjoyment from progression in the story rather than a good turned based system because they often lack need of skill and just require a good strategy. Therefore you either get OP and there is no challenge, or they are to strong and they wipe out your team then you grind weaker guys until you have the previous problem again.
@@_shadow_1 man if you didnt like the the timed hits in Super Mario RPG then Mario RPGs probably just aren't for you. I love the story but the timed hits are the best part of the game. It's so much fun. I finally got 100 Super Jumps and it took me 2 weeks of training a couple hours a day to finally do it. One of my greatest gaming achievements. I don't understand how you could say it breaks the flow of the gameplay, it IS the gameplay!
I mean that's what paper mario is, it was originally called RPG2. See the only real flaw with RPG is that it's not really a mario rpg, it's an rpg with a mario skin. Paper mario was the first to really take the spirit of the mario IP as if it were an rpg. You can even see this with the presentation, rpgs strengths are in the story, so it becomes a storybook with the character popping out of the pages.
Super Mario RPG is so hard to make a sequel to imo. It was so perfect and likely if they remade it or made a sequel of any kind as Paper Mario is. It's not the same.
Mario and luigi dream team is an underrated masterpiece. Why do so many people hate it? Like honestly I'm confused, any knocks I hear on the game are confusing because sometimes they just aren't true. The biggest issue is those stupid tutorials but then you're back on track.and playing this amazing game. Best game in the mario and luigi series. And I've played bowsers inside story.
I really like Dream Team. It’s in my top 3 Mario and Luigi games, but my biggest issue with it is the length. I started playing it for the first time probably around a year ago and I do really like it, it’s just too long. Going from the first three games being anywhere between 8-16 hours then 35+ in Dream Team is jarring
Wanna know something we have in common? In Mario and Luigi Bowser's inside Story, I also got stuck on the carrot minigame. the difference is that I got stuck on it FOR YEARS!!!! I eventually figured it out and until then, I grinded to hell and back, made the game a lot easier afterward, that's for sure.
A bit of history: SMPRG was Square Enix and Nintendo's first attempt to create an RPG that the West would enjoy. Because of this they went the extra mile and had the stript not only tanslated, but localized, which was unheard of at the time. And because of this game we got Kingdom Hearts. Same composer did the music for both KH and SMRPG and she regards SMRPG as one of her greatest works. And when you think about it, the concept for KH is in SMRPG. The Culex fight being the perfect example. Also it was one of the last games developed for the SNES and it was actually one of the most technologically impressive games on the SNES. The only reason we got paper Mario instead of a proper sequel is because Square Enix had a falling out with Nintendo over using carts vs disks. With that being said, I respect your opinion. I'm talking about innovation while you are just describing your gaming experience, but a lot of the comments you make about it can be explained or excused away if you understand the amount of innovation that went into it. While innovation doesn't equal good gameplay, I hope these explanations at least help you understand why this game is easily considered as one of the greatest of all time. Innovation, talent, and a clear vision with near flawless execution for the time.
I was born in 2003 and played it for the first time last year the game holds up way better than it seems in this video it is probably my favorite Mario rpg but I haven’t played super paper Mario and ttyd
Its honestly nice to see someone rank all of the mario rpgs and not put smrpg at the time, its a nice change of pace since everyone else puts it at number 1 lol not saying they shouldn't but its just nice to see a different opinion
I never understand why the carrot minigame is so hated, it wasn't even hard when I played, on the other hand the nose polen minigame was super hard and frustrating.
Super paper Mario is actually my introduction to the Mario RPG genre personally I have no grudges with the game except for the fact that my Wii stopped working and I lost all of my progress in paper Mario
The thing that really brought Origami King down for me is that the battle system is not actually combat, for essentially the first time in the series. It’s puzzles that, if solved correctly, let you instantly defeat all enemies (provided you have strong enough “weapons” in your inventory and don’t mess up the easy action commands) or require you to continue with another smaller puzzle if you don’t solve it on the first try. If you line enemies up, then you always do the same action command for a line of enemies. If you group them up, then you do the action command for a square group of enemies, barring using an item, which is almost always unnecessary. The combat is all about solving the same puzzles throughout the whole game. And while the bosses were unique in their fights, they are basically a frustrating game of trial and error of doing things in the right order the first time you fight them, and every subsequent playthrough makes each of them a flow chart. Do this, then this, then this, and maybe heal somewhere in there if you need it. I did overall enjoy my first playthrough, as some of the environments were a lot of fun to explore (the studio and the ocean are two standouts for me), but the rings got very old for me about halfway through the game, and I tried playing through it again in 2022 but wasn’t able to finish the purple streamer before the rings wore me down.
By the title I thought it would be a more objective take on a ranking list to help me figure out what game to play next. I was mistaken, it's really a personal list with a heavy dose of nostalgia as the bulk of the reasoning for some games. Still enjoyed watching the video, though I learned my lesson and should check out other channels.
I played Minecraft Minigames on my Wiiu (the Wiiu Version of Minecraft has Voicechat for the whole lobby) and someone in my lobby was playing this video on full volume in the background without turning the mic of.
Personally I believed that Origami King's story is slightly on par with the originals. While yeah it does stick to the arts and crafts theme established in Sticker Star and Color Splash, it makes it work. I really enjoyed Bobby's character arc and was upset when he sacrificed himself. Olly also has a similar tragedy to Bleck from Super Paper Mario, in that he believes he was wronged and reshaping the world in his own way is the only way to make things right, no matter how many people suffer, while Bleck was wronged in that he lost everything and was driven to be evil while Olly was just a misunderstanding. Remember people, I am just writing my opinion, you can disagree with me but you don't have to get out right horrible. Thank you to the people who read the comment all the way through.
Slight correction about Bowser’s Inside Story but it’s not a huge deal: Popple was brought back in Dream Team, not BIS. Idk if anyone else pointed that out and I know this video is months old at this point but I figured I’d point that out :)
I can't argue with super paper mario making it to the top as it is one of my favorite mario games. Even though it's combat is different from the other RPG marios (which I haven't played except for mario RPG), I personally like the active combat that super paper mario has more because encounter driven turn based systems can get stale/repetitive pretty fast and it often breaks the flow of the game, which is more often than not, very annoying to me.
My top 5 games is: #5 Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle #4 Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door #3 Super Paper Mario #2 Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga #1 Paper Mario
yeah honestly I missed out on it after I finished TTYD around 2015 because I saw that it's not an RPG like the first 2 but honestly now I'm interested in giving it a go someday because while it may not be like the first 2 PMs at least like it still feels like a paper mario game at least 50% of the time
My ranking: 14. *Paper Mario: Sticker Star* 13. *Puzzle & Dragons + Super Mario Bros. Edition* 12. *Paper Mario: Color Splash* 11. *Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam* 10. *Paper Mario: The Origami King* 9. *Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle* 8. *Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time* 7. *Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars* 6. *Mario & Luigi: Dream Team* 5. *Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story* 4. *Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga* 3. *Super Paper Mario* 2. *Paper Mario* 1. *Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door* I'd say there's a pretty stark difference in quality between the first and second half of my list, with the first half not being all that impressive, while the second half being pretty much _all_ must-plays in my opinion. Here's hoping we can one day see a proper sequel to the original Paper Mario trilogy (but if not then at least we have Bug Fables now).
You don’t know nothing about video games you need some help Mario RPG is number the reason number one is because it’s the hardest game to play all other games are easy it’s like a little kid in color and color book
Another fact it’s not even a challenge. See if you don’t got a game it’s a challenge and in a lot of work that means a it’s not a video game you’re not really a video game player you’re just a what do you call those with his girl toys on RUclips right you’re just a fan.
Although I grew up in the 90s and played a whole lot of Super Nintendo, surprisingly my first experience with any kind of Mario RPG was not Super Mario rpg. I watched my older brother and a friend of his play the game but that was it. I believe we rented it from Hollywood video which by the way was a chain that competed against Blockbuster video back then. Like you the first Mario RPG I ever played was Mario and Luigi Superstar saga. Definitely an extremely highly enjoyable game especially when I did in fact have a Game boy player so I can play the game on the big screen which made it so much better.
Wonderful video, but I think you might want to double-check your editing. Things like visual errors with the DS games, the remake of the Cackletta fight being shown for a split second, the #2 nametag suddenly turning into "#1 Super Paper Mariohousand year door", and the abrupt ending and lack of conclusion on Super Paper Mario are all some errors I found in this video, making it seem rushed out to meet some sort of deadline. Other than that, I agree with a lot of this list, and you have some well-said opinions!
Yeah it got cut out in the fender but if you want to see the last minute or so go to around 19 minutes in this ruclips.net/video/FFgiLrbA_tM/видео.html
I liked this list and agree with a lot of it but the one thing I can’t agree on is super Mario rpg legend of the seven stars being 7th that beautiful masterpiece deserves to be top 4 at least!
My favorite Mario RPG is Paper Mario. I remember my brother downloaded it on the Wii shop channel and I played it a ton for many years. I also really like Super Mario RPG. I also had some good memories with that as well.
I’ll be honest, I think Super Paper Mario has become overrated because of how underrated it was 🤣, still good and very casual to go through but it has become a bit overrated
I’ve seen this become a trend a lot more recently. In baseball it’s known as the Bryce Harper Effect where he is a great player who just got talked about so much to the point he became overrated and then people started to just say he’s not that good because he’s overrated then making him underrated because he is still a great player.
A game that was hated upon release and is only just now starting to get the love it was deprived of over 14 years ago is not overrated. You’re just tired of hearing people gush about it.
@@theluigifan1 It’s getting too much love nowadays, to the point where it’s not underrated anymore. Just because it’s only now starting to get love( which isn’t even true it started to be loved about 6 or 7 years ago), doesn’t make it not overrated.
1. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars 2. Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door 3. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time 4. Paper Mario 5. Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam 6. Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story 7. Super Paper Mario 8. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team 9. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga 10 Paper Mario: The Origami King 11. Paper Mario: Color Splash 12. Paper Mario: Sticker Star
I don't care what everyone says, the thousand year door was a very excellent in that time because of the spring jump,Ultra hammer,cool badges and yoshi and has good designs and this year has mods,HD textures,widescreen and modes and level designs
Thousand year door was the favorite of the ones I've played, but it bothers me how excited and happy people are to get a remake of a game we already have. And people say "not everyone played it" but the ones who are so excited usually have. We need to push for new quality games not just ones that already released. its a problem now when the best games are just remakes and not new titles.
Well said. Only reason why I'm so excited to play it is because I never finished the original or even got far when I was a little kid. Honestly though, I think I would've been more excited with a new Mario & Luigi entry, something that will likely never happen
I agree with almost everything you said about Mario and Luigi Paper Jam however in my opinion it's better then then the new Paper Mario games because what it lacks in story it makes up for with a normal battle system which is nothing new for Mario and Luigi but Paper Mario is now known for having bad and pointless battle systems (not including the first 3).
So... odd way of liking something, I love SPM, but the reason I like it isn't for the game, but rather who the game introduced me to for RUclips. Because this was the game Chuggaconroy was playing as I was learning about RUclips and the many channels people made. Also abrupt end huh?
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I'd mostly agree, except I'd move Super to mid-tier and bump RPG up to third. I think though that regardless of personal taste, the elements that made the series turn for worse were first seen in Paper Mario and Super Paper Mario. Paper Mario gets a bit of a pass for the reasons you mention in the video. Super Paper Mario, not so much. The dumbing down of the gameplay became more or less status quo for every Mario RPG afterwards. Lack of partners, a bit of an empty battle experience, etc. As for story I'm not sure exactly what prompted Miyamoto to stupidly conclude that the story in these games was unpopular, maybe it was because Dream Team and its sequel did worse than expected. I tend to think he came to that conclusion around the time of SPM. This though is just a Miyamotoism, just one in many examples of Miyamoto makung desicions that would hurt Nintendo and kill a series.
IMHO, the problem with paper mario is the whole paper theme. I personally find the design very off putting. I’ll take the Super Mario RPG graphics over everything else in the list.
I can't believe you rated Super Paper Mario #1, I said to myself: "if this guy really does it, i'll subscribe, comment and like". And there u go. I luv u now
I respect super paper Mario as your favorite game, it is my third favorite Mario game. (including all games with the name Mario in the title, even though I believe paper Mario is just a different person than Mario) personally ttyd is my favorite and super Mario sunshine is my second. But I definitely like somebody giving credit to where credits due. So many people rate this low on the Mario game tier list it’s just nice to hear it’s someone’s favorite game.
Great list this would be my ranking. 12. Paper Mario: Sticker Star 11. Paper Mario: Color Splash 10. Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam 9. Paper Mario: The Origami King 6. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time 7. Super Paper Mario 6. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars 5. Paper Mario 4. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team 3. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga 2. Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story 1. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Not wrong about the carrot mini game me and all 6 of my cousins spent 2 hours trying to beat it we even tried to let our parents beat it but in the end it wasn’t done till about 6 years later when I came back to the game
Based number 1, have you tried Bug Fables btw? It was a spiritual successor to Thousand year door sorta, a completely unique story made by devs that missed the old paper Mario combat and even changed it up quite a bit
Yes! We actually interviewed a developer of Bug Fables a couple years back ruclips.net/video/OKS2EuOnAoM/видео.html as well as had him on our podcast ruclips.net/video/y1U4cMRD7fA/видео.html
@@williamraboine2462 I mean I definitely understand that perspective, but it was just inspired by TTYD, and there is 3 characters all with a lot of character rather than just half a chapter each. And all 3 of them have several different play styles from making Kabbu unkillable, to Vi generating insane amounts of healing over time, or making any character DPS more than a mega rush yoshi kid. Also status transfer badges + immunity and stat buffs based on statuses is very cute idea. Also ngl I love that super guards aren't present cause it makes combat so pointless if you're good at the game, but "super block" just reducing "more" damage is a much better change. I mean you have 3 characters on the field vs 2 and it's still extremely balanced and challenging. I do like how the different partners have different identities in TTYD, but let's be honest, we all usually "main" only 1 or 2 depending on fights or chapters and playstyles. I mean show me the guy who uses Ms. mowz unironically unless they're stealing an item. Yes they all have different dialogue for story beats depending on who you have equipped, but realistically you won't see most of them unless you try for it cause we'll always gravitate towards our favorites. Bug Fables does away with that and has all the cast out at once leaving nobody in the background.
I will be triggered. But I'll like it at the start before I get triggered. 0:40 I called it. I knew this would be here. This is my second favorite of the franchise. Only to the origami king. (I still like the video though) 4:28 I'm sad. 5:57 my pain is immesurable and my day is ruined.
I actually think paper jam works because for the past 4 games we never get proper environment and before you come kill me about inside story the Mario and Luigi part of that game more then make up for it. We actually got a proper vanilla Mario rpg except they still keep it fresh with the paper kingdom coming in it still feels fresh to me personally and we also get some bosses that were once boring now completely revamped like the wiggler fight and we also get duo fights even a trio fight at one point this is very small but very good changes in my opinion it’s not the boring slog that most people thought it was also I would like to mention the huge amount of bosses we get some very good bosses that haven’t really been shown in recent games like Petey Piranha, King Boo, Kamek (as a separate boss) and King B are all really clever fights that we have either never seen before or we barely ever see
1.Paper Mario 2 2.M&L Bowsers inside story 3.Super Mario Rpg 4.M&L superstar saga 5.Paper Mario 6.Super paper mario 6.M&L Dreamteam bros 8.M&L Partners in time 9.Origami King 10.colour splash 11.paper jam 12.sticker star its only my opinion so chill
personally, i prefer bis over evry mario and luigi, maybe PiT since it was the first m&l game ive played, but im looking more for replaying than just playing the game a single time, i still really like PiT, Superstar saga (in the middke of playing it atm) and BiS, although i’d prefer BiS over PiT just because i enjoy replaying BiS more than PiT
My ranking 14.puzzle and dragons super mario edition 13.paper mario sticker star 12.mario & luigi paper jam bros 11.paper mario the thousand yeardoor (yep is real,personaly is soo really overrated game i sorry guys no kill me) 10.mario & luigi dream team bros 9.mario + rabbids kingdom battle 8.paper mario color splash (no is exellent game buy i like it,personally is much disfrutable to back games and one mejory to sticker star) 7.mario & luigi patners in time 6.paper mario the origami king 5.paper mario 4.mario & luigi super star saga 3.mario & luigi bowser inside history 2.super paper mario (underrated reliquium) 1.super mario rpg the lengend of seven stars
My ranking: 12 Super Paper Mario (It’s not really a RPG but more like a Jump ‘n Run) 11 Paper Mario: Sticker Star 10 Mario & Luigi Paper Jam (Not a lot of Paper Mario, also a very Bad Mario & Luigi) 9 Paper Mario: Colour Splash 8 Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time 7 Paper Mario: The Origami King 6 Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Bros (But I hate that they force you to you Motion controls 😤) 5 Paper Mario 4 Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga 3 Super Mario RPG 2 Mario & Luigi: Bowsers Inside Story 1 Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Its a great game but its just hard for me to rank it any higher. I didn't grow up with the game as it was before my time and by the time I did play it it was already showing its age.
For some reason, the ending got cut out during the render so if you want to see the last minute or so, go to around 19 minutes in this video ruclips.net/video/FFgiLrbA_tM/видео.html
Yeah, the fact that super paper mario us your number one destroys this video😂.
Super Mario RPG: "This is the Mario RPG that would definitely benefit the most from a remake". Guess that's what Nintendo thought as well :)
First 2 paper marios were actual peak gaming
Paper mario 1 is not peak but definetely the pioneer for the paper mario games. TTYD perfected the formula and after super paper mario they decided to just dump the series in the trash
I agree with @Fitcob
I haven't played any of them except super. I don't really like turn based combat that much in a story based game, to me it feels like it breaks the flow of the game, so I don't think I would enjoy the first ones as much. I also played mario RPG and the timed button mini games and battles either being completely inconvenient and basically useless or way too difficult was my least favorite part of the game. I don't think that those games are bad or anything, I just get more enjoyment from progression in the story rather than a good turned based system because they often lack need of skill and just require a good strategy. Therefore you either get OP and there is no challenge, or they are to strong and they wipe out your team then you grind weaker guys until you have the previous problem again.
@@_shadow_1 man if you didnt like the the timed hits in Super Mario RPG then Mario RPGs probably just aren't for you. I love the story but the timed hits are the best part of the game. It's so much fun. I finally got 100 Super Jumps and it took me 2 weeks of training a couple hours a day to finally do it. One of my greatest gaming achievements. I don't understand how you could say it breaks the flow of the gameplay, it IS the gameplay!
@@zoralink37 Super paper Mario was great
Super Mario RPG is excellent ! It truly deserved a sequel !
I mean that's what paper mario is, it was originally called RPG2. See the only real flaw with RPG is that it's not really a mario rpg, it's an rpg with a mario skin. Paper mario was the first to really take the spirit of the mario IP as if it were an rpg.
You can even see this with the presentation, rpgs strengths are in the story, so it becomes a storybook with the character popping out of the pages.
Super Mario RPG is so hard to make a sequel to imo. It was so perfect and likely if they remade it or made a sequel of any kind as Paper Mario is. It's not the same.
At least the game is getting remade.
Maybe they will make a sequel if the remake sells well.
You should try this game called "Super Paper Mario", I think you'd like it
Never heard of it. Maybe I’ll give it a try some day
Should be a fun time…
Could be good
Hmm seems interesting 🤨🧐🤔 🤔
@@GameDomain You’ve seriously never heard of the game?
Mario and luigi dream team is an underrated masterpiece. Why do so many people hate it? Like honestly I'm confused, any knocks I hear on the game are confusing because sometimes they just aren't true. The biggest issue is those stupid tutorials but then you're back on track.and playing this amazing game. Best game in the mario and luigi series. And I've played bowsers inside story.
I really like Dream Team. It’s in my top 3 Mario and Luigi games, but my biggest issue with it is the length. I started playing it for the first time probably around a year ago and I do really like it, it’s just too long. Going from the first three games being anywhere between 8-16 hours then 35+ in Dream Team is jarring
@@JGr2000 I personally like the length but that's an opinion
My bf and one of my other friends likes it lol
@@multifandomfangirl9664 marry him immediately
@@Wienerdog5 Don't worry we are already planning soon ;)
We actually known each other for a long time
Wanna know something we have in common? In Mario and Luigi Bowser's inside Story, I also got stuck on the carrot minigame. the difference is that I got stuck on it FOR YEARS!!!! I eventually figured it out and until then, I grinded to hell and back, made the game a lot easier afterward, that's for sure.
Same
I had my mom beat it because I was so confused and I was at that stage in life where I thought my mom knew everything and how to do everything
@@davidcruzbruh818 Yo I used to do that too!
A bit of history:
SMPRG was Square Enix and Nintendo's first attempt to create an RPG that the West would enjoy. Because of this they went the extra mile and had the stript not only tanslated, but localized, which was unheard of at the time. And because of this game we got Kingdom Hearts. Same composer did the music for both KH and SMRPG and she regards SMRPG as one of her greatest works. And when you think about it, the concept for KH is in SMRPG. The Culex fight being the perfect example. Also it was one of the last games developed for the SNES and it was actually one of the most technologically impressive games on the SNES. The only reason we got paper Mario instead of a proper sequel is because Square Enix had a falling out with Nintendo over using carts vs disks.
With that being said, I respect your opinion. I'm talking about innovation while you are just describing your gaming experience, but a lot of the comments you make about it can be explained or excused away if you understand the amount of innovation that went into it. While innovation doesn't equal good gameplay, I hope these explanations at least help you understand why this game is easily considered as one of the greatest of all time. Innovation, talent, and a clear vision with near flawless execution for the time.
I was born in 2003 and played it for the first time last year the game holds up way better than it seems in this video it is probably my favorite Mario rpg but I haven’t played super paper Mario and ttyd
Its honestly nice to see someone rank all of the mario rpgs and not put smrpg at the time, its a nice change of pace since everyone else puts it at number 1 lol not saying they shouldn't but its just nice to see a different opinion
I wanted more Super Mario RPGS to be released.
I never understand why the carrot minigame is so hated, it wasn't even hard when I played, on the other hand the nose polen minigame was super hard and frustrating.
It's not super hard, it's just really precise and everything has to be almost perfect, w
hich is why people hate it.
I beat it almost immediately when I played it
i always struggled on the carrot minigame but i totally agree that the nose game is hard
11:41 Aged like fine WINE
Respect for putting PIT over BIS
Yup super paper Mario is goated. Honestly a super underrated game I feel like nobody talks about it.
You got your wish for Mario RPG remake!
Super paper Mario is actually my introduction to the Mario RPG genre personally I have no grudges with the game except for the fact that my Wii stopped working and I lost all of my progress in paper Mario
Rest in peace, may your wii recover from this loss. But on the other hand you got to enjoy the game again which I wouldn’t complain about
The thing that really brought Origami King down for me is that the battle system is not actually combat, for essentially the first time in the series. It’s puzzles that, if solved correctly, let you instantly defeat all enemies (provided you have strong enough “weapons” in your inventory and don’t mess up the easy action commands) or require you to continue with another smaller puzzle if you don’t solve it on the first try. If you line enemies up, then you always do the same action command for a line of enemies. If you group them up, then you do the action command for a square group of enemies, barring using an item, which is almost always unnecessary.
The combat is all about solving the same puzzles throughout the whole game. And while the bosses were unique in their fights, they are basically a frustrating game of trial and error of doing things in the right order the first time you fight them, and every subsequent playthrough makes each of them a flow chart. Do this, then this, then this, and maybe heal somewhere in there if you need it.
I did overall enjoy my first playthrough, as some of the environments were a lot of fun to explore (the studio and the ocean are two standouts for me), but the rings got very old for me about halfway through the game, and I tried playing through it again in 2022 but wasn’t able to finish the purple streamer before the rings wore me down.
SUPER MARIO RPG GOT THE REMAKE!!
By the title I thought it would be a more objective take on a ranking list to help me figure out what game to play next. I was mistaken, it's really a personal list with a heavy dose of nostalgia as the bulk of the reasoning for some games. Still enjoyed watching the video, though I learned my lesson and should check out other channels.
Bowsers inside story super paper Mario thousand year door and Mario rpg are the best games so play any of those next ig
I played Minecraft Minigames on my Wiiu (the Wiiu Version of Minecraft has Voicechat for the whole lobby) and someone in my lobby was playing this video on full volume in the background without turning the mic of.
lol
Personally I believed that Origami King's story is slightly on par with the originals. While yeah it does stick to the arts and crafts theme established in Sticker Star and Color Splash, it makes it work. I really enjoyed Bobby's character arc and was upset when he sacrificed himself. Olly also has a similar tragedy to Bleck from Super Paper Mario, in that he believes he was wronged and reshaping the world in his own way is the only way to make things right, no matter how many people suffer, while Bleck was wronged in that he lost everything and was driven to be evil while Olly was just a misunderstanding. Remember people, I am just writing my opinion, you can disagree with me but you don't have to get out right horrible. Thank you to the people who read the comment all the way through.
Finally someone who loves super paper mario too
Slight correction about Bowser’s Inside Story but it’s not a huge deal: Popple was brought back in Dream Team, not BIS. Idk if anyone else pointed that out and I know this video is months old at this point but I figured I’d point that out :)
11:41 Wish granted
I can't argue with super paper mario making it to the top as it is one of my favorite mario games. Even though it's combat is different from the other RPG marios (which I haven't played except for mario RPG), I personally like the active combat that super paper mario has more because encounter driven turn based systems can get stale/repetitive pretty fast and it often breaks the flow of the game, which is more often than not, very annoying to me.
My top 5 games is:
#5 Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
#4 Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door
#3 Super Paper Mario
#2 Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga
#1 Paper Mario
Super paper Mario is my fav and I’m so glad to see someone rank it #1
I completely adored Super Paper Mario. The story, pacing, secrets, and suspense were on point. 10/10.
yeah honestly I missed out on it after I finished TTYD around 2015 because I saw that it's not an RPG like the first 2 but honestly now I'm interested in giving it a go someday because while it may not be like the first 2 PMs at least like it still feels like a paper mario game at least 50% of the time
My ranking:
14. *Paper Mario: Sticker Star*
13. *Puzzle & Dragons + Super Mario Bros. Edition*
12. *Paper Mario: Color Splash*
11. *Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam*
10. *Paper Mario: The Origami King*
9. *Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle*
8. *Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time*
7. *Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars*
6. *Mario & Luigi: Dream Team*
5. *Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story*
4. *Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga*
3. *Super Paper Mario*
2. *Paper Mario*
1. *Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door*
I'd say there's a pretty stark difference in quality between the first and second half of my list, with the first half not being all that impressive, while the second half being pretty much _all_ must-plays in my opinion. Here's hoping we can one day see a proper sequel to the original Paper Mario trilogy (but if not then at least we have Bug Fables now).
Bug Fables is great! We actually interviewed one of the developers a couple years back
You don’t know nothing about video games you need some help Mario RPG is number the reason number one is because it’s the hardest game to play all other games are easy it’s like a little kid in color and color book
Another fact it’s not even a challenge. See if you don’t got a game it’s a challenge and in a lot of work that means a it’s not a video game you’re not really a video game player you’re just a what do you call those with his girl toys on RUclips right you’re just a fan.
Super Mario RPG and super Paper Mario are my favorites! You should’ve put Mario rpg higher since it’s a banger of a game!
11:41 the madlad called it
Not the first time I’ve had a Nintendo prediction come true
Although I grew up in the 90s and played a whole lot of Super Nintendo, surprisingly my first experience with any kind of Mario RPG was not Super Mario rpg. I watched my older brother and a friend of his play the game but that was it. I believe we rented it from Hollywood video which by the way was a chain that competed against Blockbuster video back then.
Like you the first Mario RPG I ever played was Mario and Luigi Superstar saga. Definitely an extremely highly enjoyable game especially when I did in fact have a Game boy player so I can play the game on the big screen which made it so much better.
Wonderful video, but I think you might want to double-check your editing. Things like visual errors with the DS games, the remake of the Cackletta fight being shown for a split second, the #2 nametag suddenly turning into "#1 Super Paper Mariohousand year door", and the abrupt ending and lack of conclusion on Super Paper Mario are all some errors I found in this video, making it seem rushed out to meet some sort of deadline. Other than that, I agree with a lot of this list, and you have some well-said opinions!
Yeah it got cut out in the fender but if you want to see the last minute or so go to around 19 minutes in this ruclips.net/video/FFgiLrbA_tM/видео.html
Super Mario RPG is my favorite Mario RPG game no doubt
I liked this list and agree with a lot of it but the one thing I can’t agree on is super Mario rpg legend of the seven stars being 7th that beautiful masterpiece deserves to be top 4 at least!
Yes I’m 19 so I grew up with newer games and I still consider that to be my favorite Mario rpg
What's the point of a game with no EXP? It's like living through life without making mistakes.
I disagree that colour splash’s level design felt uninspired
That’s perfectly fine. I thought there were a couple cool levels but I thought as a whole it just felt like Sticker Star 2
My favorite Mario RPG is Paper Mario. I remember my brother downloaded it on the Wii shop channel and I played it a ton for many years. I also really like Super Mario RPG. I also had some good memories with that as well.
I’ll be honest, I think Super Paper Mario has become overrated because of how underrated it was 🤣, still good and very casual to go through but it has become a bit overrated
I’ve seen this become a trend a lot more recently. In baseball it’s known as the Bryce Harper Effect where he is a great player who just got talked about so much to the point he became overrated and then people started to just say he’s not that good because he’s overrated then making him underrated because he is still a great player.
A game that was hated upon release and is only just now starting to get the love it was deprived of over 14 years ago is not overrated.
You’re just tired of hearing people gush about it.
You could that for most of the older titles but hey I'm not here to judge
@@theluigifan1 It’s getting too much love nowadays, to the point where it’s not underrated anymore. Just because it’s only now starting to get love( which isn’t even true it started to be loved about 6 or 7 years ago), doesn’t make it not overrated.
My favorites are Bowsers Inside Story, Partners in Time and Super Paper Mario.
Man, so nice to see Super Paper Mario and Superstar Saga get the love they deserve
Why does the video end at the end of the sentence?
"...and the Over There, which is meant to represent hea---*"
Rats! I really wanted to hear why you liked it so much.
1. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
2. Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door
3. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
4. Paper Mario
5. Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
6. Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
7. Super Paper Mario
8. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
9. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
10 Paper Mario: The Origami King
11. Paper Mario: Color Splash
12. Paper Mario: Sticker Star
Didn’t expect the video to just end abruptly
neither did I
11:40 "This is the Mario RPG that would definitely benefit the most from a remake"
Well well well
I don't care what everyone says, the thousand year door was a very excellent in that time because of the spring jump,Ultra hammer,cool badges and yoshi and has good designs and this year has mods,HD textures,widescreen and modes and level designs
Thousand year door was the favorite of the ones I've played, but it bothers me how excited and happy people are to get a remake of a game we already have. And people say "not everyone played it" but the ones who are so excited usually have. We need to push for new quality games not just ones that already released. its a problem now when the best games are just remakes and not new titles.
Well said. Only reason why I'm so excited to play it is because I never finished the original or even got far when I was a little kid. Honestly though, I think I would've been more excited with a new Mario & Luigi entry, something that will likely never happen
The Best One is Easily Mario+Rabbits
I agree with almost everything you said about Mario and Luigi Paper Jam however in my opinion it's better then then the new Paper Mario games because what it lacks in story it makes up for with a normal battle system which is nothing new for Mario and Luigi but Paper Mario is now known for having bad and pointless battle systems (not including the first 3).
origami king and super paper mario were the only paper mario games i ever owned
I had a nightmare beating dream team when I was 6… it took me 3 years to beat. Lol
i don't agree with color splash i only played the demo but i loved it
I personally respect your opinion on super paper Mario but i personally don't concider it an RPG i concider it more like a platformer game
RPGs don’t have to have turn based fighting 👍
Top 4
1. SMRPG
2. Paper Mario
3. Paper Mario Thousand Year Door
4. M&L Superstar Saga
11:40 WELP
This guy put super paper Mario the best☠️, it's not rpg it's Platformer
So... odd way of liking something, I love SPM, but the reason I like it isn't for the game, but rather who the game introduced me to for RUclips. Because this was the game Chuggaconroy was playing as I was learning about RUclips and the many channels people made.
Also abrupt end huh?
Abrupt ending was an editing mistake. There was gonna be an outro
12:05 i returned this game as a kid because of this minigame
Super Paper Mario is one of my favorite games too! And it's definitely my favorite Mario RPG! WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
WWW
Talking bout Mario RPG deserving a remake aged like wine here
Superstar Saga DX was shown for a microsecond when you said "Cackletta" 16:57
The carrot minigame is an abomination of difficulty
I think maybe you uploaded an unfinished edit? It ends so abruptly.
You put super paper Mario in 1st place
You have My respect one of My favorite games of all time and one of My favorite villians in any videogame
Glad you enjoyed the list! Be sure to subscribe and check out our Paper Mario/Super Paper Mario videos! We recently ranked the SPM chapters ruclips.net/video/_bh33fisT5E/видео.html
bro said super paper mario. There ain't no way. Where is the Anti SPM group when you need them?
Where's the Anti-Anti SPM group cause I'm sorry sir your opinion bad/j
I'd mostly agree, except I'd move Super to mid-tier and bump RPG up to third. I think though that regardless of personal taste, the elements that made the series turn for worse were first seen in Paper Mario and Super Paper Mario. Paper Mario gets a bit of a pass for the reasons you mention in the video. Super Paper Mario, not so much. The dumbing down of the gameplay became more or less status quo for every Mario RPG afterwards. Lack of partners, a bit of an empty battle experience, etc. As for story I'm not sure exactly what prompted Miyamoto to stupidly conclude that the story in these games was unpopular, maybe it was because Dream Team and its sequel did worse than expected. I tend to think he came to that conclusion around the time of SPM. This though is just a Miyamotoism, just one in many examples of Miyamoto makung desicions that would hurt Nintendo and kill a series.
Ah, a fellow Super Paper stan! Well met good sir!
By the way, I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume the video wasn't meant to end so abruptly?
Yes, checkout around 19 minutes here ruclips.net/video/FFgiLrbA_tM/видео.html
SPM is so underrated. Glad you have it at #1
IMHO, the problem with paper mario is the whole paper theme. I personally find the design very off putting. I’ll take the Super Mario RPG graphics over everything else in the list.
How it's "paper" mario lmao
I can't believe you rated Super Paper Mario #1, I said to myself: "if this guy really does it, i'll subscribe, comment and like".
And there u go. I luv u now
Ikr, finally someone that isn't a thousand year door fanboy.
@@realthemariogamer I love all the games. TTYD just happens to be my favorite.
@@phoenixofgrandeur2387 That's fine, It's just the thousand year door fans that trash every other game just because it's not the same.
I like mario and lugi dream casters 4
Dream Team*
Uhm, is it just me, or does the video end abruptly at 20:47? It ends in the middle of the explanation, without a proper outro
I cried to see Sticker Star in last.
I respect super paper Mario as your favorite game, it is my third favorite Mario game. (including all games with the name Mario in the title, even though I believe paper Mario is just a different person than Mario) personally ttyd is my favorite and super Mario sunshine is my second. But I definitely like somebody giving credit to where credits due. So many people rate this low on the Mario game tier list it’s just nice to hear it’s someone’s favorite game.
Great list this would be my ranking.
12. Paper Mario: Sticker Star
11. Paper Mario: Color Splash
10. Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
9. Paper Mario: The Origami King
6. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
7. Super Paper Mario
6. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
5. Paper Mario
4. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
3. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
2. Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
1. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
I litteraly flooded My House with My tears because you put Super paper Mario in seventh place
11:43 does he know?
Not wrong about the carrot mini game me and all 6 of my cousins spent 2 hours trying to beat it we even tried to let our parents beat it but in the end it wasn’t done till about 6 years later when I came back to the game
i love inside story but i hated the carrot minigame it actuealy took me 2 months to beat it im serous
Good to know I’m not alone lol
Why did the video abruptly end for?
Based number 1, have you tried Bug Fables btw? It was a spiritual successor to Thousand year door sorta, a completely unique story made by devs that missed the old paper Mario combat and even changed it up quite a bit
Yes! We actually interviewed a developer of Bug Fables a couple years back ruclips.net/video/OKS2EuOnAoM/видео.html as well as had him on our podcast ruclips.net/video/y1U4cMRD7fA/видео.html
Don’t get me wrong, bug fables is an amazing game, but it lacks the character/partner variety of the original paper Mario’s.
@@williamraboine2462 I mean I definitely understand that perspective, but it was just inspired by TTYD, and there is 3 characters all with a lot of character rather than just half a chapter each. And all 3 of them have several different play styles from making Kabbu unkillable, to Vi generating insane amounts of healing over time, or making any character DPS more than a mega rush yoshi kid. Also status transfer badges + immunity and stat buffs based on statuses is very cute idea. Also ngl I love that super guards aren't present cause it makes combat so pointless if you're good at the game, but "super block" just reducing "more" damage is a much better change. I mean you have 3 characters on the field vs 2 and it's still extremely balanced and challenging.
I do like how the different partners have different identities in TTYD, but let's be honest, we all usually "main" only 1 or 2 depending on fights or chapters and playstyles. I mean show me the guy who uses Ms. mowz unironically unless they're stealing an item. Yes they all have different dialogue for story beats depending on who you have equipped, but realistically you won't see most of them unless you try for it cause we'll always gravitate towards our favorites. Bug Fables does away with that and has all the cast out at once leaving nobody in the background.
I will be triggered. But I'll like it at the start before I get triggered.
0:40 I called it. I knew this would be here. This is my second favorite of the franchise. Only to the origami king.
(I still like the video though)
4:28 I'm sad.
5:57 my pain is immesurable and my day is ruined.
Yeah not everyone likes the new paper trilogy including me
Sorry to disappoint you
I actually think paper jam works because for the past 4 games we never get proper environment and before you come kill me about inside story the Mario and Luigi part of that game more then make up for it. We actually got a proper vanilla Mario rpg except they still keep it fresh with the paper kingdom coming in it still feels fresh to me personally and we also get some bosses that were once boring now completely revamped like the wiggler fight and we also get duo fights even a trio fight at one point this is very small but very good changes in my opinion it’s not the boring slog that most people thought it was also I would like to mention the huge amount of bosses we get some very good bosses that haven’t really been shown in recent games like Petey Piranha, King Boo, Kamek (as a separate boss) and King B are all really clever fights that we have either never seen before or we barely ever see
1.Paper Mario 2
2.M&L Bowsers inside story
3.Super Mario Rpg
4.M&L superstar saga
5.Paper Mario
6.Super paper mario
6.M&L Dreamteam bros
8.M&L Partners in time
9.Origami King
10.colour splash
11.paper jam
12.sticker star
its only my opinion so chill
Opinion Respected!
I think pretty much all the Mario rpg games are good and specifically Mario and Luigi because if you have a 3DS you will most likely want to get this
personally, i prefer bis over evry mario and luigi, maybe PiT since it was the first m&l game ive played, but im looking more for replaying than just playing the game a single time, i still really like PiT, Superstar saga (in the middke of playing it atm) and BiS, although i’d prefer BiS over PiT just because i enjoy replaying BiS more than PiT
By the way #2's name card is a writing error
This video ends so abruptly and nobody seems to care.
My ranking
14.puzzle and dragons super mario edition
13.paper mario sticker star
12.mario & luigi paper jam bros
11.paper mario the thousand yeardoor (yep is real,personaly is soo really overrated game i sorry guys no kill me)
10.mario & luigi dream team bros
9.mario + rabbids kingdom battle
8.paper mario color splash (no is exellent game buy i like it,personally is much disfrutable to back games and one mejory to sticker star)
7.mario & luigi patners in time
6.paper mario the origami king
5.paper mario
4.mario & luigi super star saga
3.mario & luigi bowser inside history
2.super paper mario (underrated reliquium)
1.super mario rpg the lengend of seven stars
Well deserved number one it's the best one by far
The conclusion done had me confused
Nah, you are not alone, I prefer PiT over Inside Story as well.
My ranking:
12 Super Paper Mario
(It’s not really a RPG but more like a Jump ‘n Run)
11 Paper Mario: Sticker Star
10 Mario & Luigi Paper Jam
(Not a lot of Paper Mario, also a very Bad Mario & Luigi)
9 Paper Mario: Colour Splash
8 Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
7 Paper Mario: The Origami King
6 Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Bros
(But I hate that they force you to you Motion controls 😤)
5 Paper Mario
4 Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga
3 Super Mario RPG
2 Mario & Luigi: Bowsers Inside Story
1 Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Super Paper Mario is a masterpiece I would put it at #2 it’s criminally underrated
Super Mario RPG being announced for sequel recently makes this video so ironic and soothing. 🤪
Now ttyd too fuckkkk
Why isn’t Bowser’s Inside Story higher?
Because opinions are subjective and I enjoyed the games ranked higher more than it.
I was confused when I saw the other ranking video and thought this or that video was copying the commentary lol.
Super paper mario is also my favorite game of all time!
Great List
Based super paper mario on #1
I would never rank Super Mario RPG outside of the top 3 Mario RPG Games
Its a great game but its just hard for me to rank it any higher. I didn't grow up with the game as it was before my time and by the time I did play it it was already showing its age.