They may not be able to solve this cold case, but by highlighting it again it could prompt someone with knowledge to come forward who for whatever reason was not able to before.
that is so friggin cool that the original detective did all that extra work with his files. just from that, you could tell that he was an actual great cop.his son is awesome for speaking up and giving those to the new investigators. 2men who have beautiful hearts. ♡
Marilyn Hird was a very unreliable witness, kept changing stories and presenting things that were demonstrably false. She may know something or not. I think she may be protecting Rick Harrison, Betty Harrison's son. They were friends and he was potentially involved with the attack on his mother. Also, the relative they keep referring to is her brother and I believe he was eliminated as a suspect in the Jackie English case.
Please Look into the Cold Case of my Aunt Margret Sheeler ,That was murdered in 1963 in London Ontario. She was pregnant at the time of her murder.Please Help
I paused it before they revealed any code they had, to see if I could decode it myself. We came up with the same thing. However, they didn't mention the entirety of the encoded entries, I rewatched those close-ups of the diary multiple times, so here's what it says... 1st message: BBYOJ HVIZKF CEUUIJ AI. ---> "Lloyd french kissed me" 2nd message: GYT JVSZC. QMU KMVVEIJ EZTY LIJVYYA. QMU UTVEXXIJ. E HMCIJ TIMVU. ---> "Got drunk. Was carried into bedroom. Was stripped. I faked tears." I figured being written in the first-person, that Jackie would likely omit the pronoun 'I' in most circumstances, as she is the doer of action or passive receiver of action. She did in each instance except for the part about faking tears.
I had a cousin murdered in 1973. His parents were told by the police that they would be better off not pursueing it. Years later the siblings still are left hanging.
Well back then, a lot of young people did a lot of hitchhiking, and unfortunately, that's how a lot of them were killed. So sad, I'd, but it was a lot more of an innocent time, and teenagers always think they're invincible.
First--the Hird woman is obviously serious about moral issues because she stands by a promise she made. She also was tender-hearted towards her loved one, whom she considered wronged and noble for protecting a friend, which again indicates that she is an idealistic person. I think she is worth working on to persuade her that now is the time to reveal what she knows as the most moral and compassionate thing to do. She has allowed the person she promised to experience life for decades without consequence by keeping her promise, which is honorable, but now she should take pity on the girl she knew and the family that has suffered all those same decades. At this point, shouldn't she think about which action is the higher ground: continuing to keep her promise, or allowing deserved consequences become possible so to give peace to those who have long suffered a terrible wrong? End her complacency and make her consider which action now is the moral "right." Second--the same woman indicated that two were involved in the murder of Jackie, and one was her relative. Doesn't that mean that a relationship existed at the time of the murder between her relative and the other suspect "David" and couldn't that connection be proven?
The suspects composite gives you an insight through his eyes to just how evil this animal truly is/was. Watching true crime I have seen few as unnerving as that one.
Because of legal reasons. it’s not proven so you have to be careful. Vigilante justice is a real thing and they don’t want to be liable for someone taking the law into their own hands and taking a baseball bat to this suspect.
I think she has psychiatric issues. There's no way anyone in their right mind would tell a cop "I know who they are" but then not tell him after all these years. She's not a child anymore. Yet, she kind of is behaving like one. She may also have been a druggie, which would make her brain a horrible mess and she could hallucinate all kinds of things and make up memories.
Mariln Hird lives in her own mind. Had a friend like this. They even look alike. In her mind she believes it. Not to be taken seriously. Her relative does nothing wrong, just takes the rap to protect others. REALLY
The relative they are talking about is her brother James and he was convicted of assaulting a young boy. I don't believe he was ever really a suspect in the Jackie english case.
I agree..isn't that withholding information or an assessory after the fact kinda crime. Can't they charge her with something or at least scare her into thinking they can so she talks and spills the beans. Lol ☺
Do you have any hard evidence to prove this theory? Last I heard Rick was excluded as a suspect because witnesses spent time with him the night Jackie disappeared. That David Bodemer person is a MUCH more plausible suspect!....Jackie English's clothing was left near the same gravel pit located in the middle of nowhere, where Georgia Jacksons clothes and body were discovered...David Bodemer left Jackson's body and clothes at that same gravel pit shortly before Jackie English was abducted and killed. I doubt that Rick would have known about that gravel pit in the middle of nowhere, but we know for a fact that David Bodemer knew about it, and Jackie's shoes where found there.....It is completely plausible that Marilyn Hird's relative Jim Hird may have been an accomplice in the crime, but that is an unproven rumor.
@@patriciajrs46 You're welcome :) To be honest I don't think that the authorities have questioned David at all, which is somewhat surprising all things considered. I can't fathom why this case has not been followed up on, especially considering the fact that David is still alive ,and the information regarding his whereabouts was discovered on this show. I feel terrible for Jackie's sister Anne English, she has been through unmitigated hell because of all of this.
Jackie's friend, Marilyn, helped her friend to kill Jackie. That is why she was so distraught over everything. She became an accomplice. She couldn't live with the guilt! That is why she said the killers name would go with her to her grave. Either that or Marilyn herself, plotted everything and hooked someone else in as the accomplice. The Brother, Rick, was jealous that his Brother, (LLOYD), kissed Jackie! Marilyn was in on it. I have NO DOUBTS! She would have known Jackie's schedule and her walking route home. JS That's what I have deduced. Thanks!
Blood sample for comparison just means they were testing it against another blood type not DNA at that time. They just said it wrong. Nothing shady about the boyfriend there.
I know a woman whose daughter was killed by Gary and she worked with him at Kenmore. He didn't know it was her daughter, until after he was caught. I have talked to a few people that worked with him and every single one of them, said he was really weird and had a creepy feeling about him.
Quite a collection of talent they have to throw at these cases. Be nicer if they had some personality about themselves. Listening to them is equivalent to reading computer data. The show itself has potential, but the characters are never going to win over a fan base.
You’re quite nice and gentle with your choice of words. I would just say they’re all full of shit and they’re appearance reminds me of a bologna sandwich.
We're talking about 1969. The reason she wrote it in code is because she didn't want her parents to know, I remember being a teenager, I wouldn't have wanted my parents to know about me kissing some boy, so of course she wrote it in code, it makes sense.
@@KellyfromMemphisDD214 Yeah, ok but I didn't personally bring that on, I was born in 71, not in the 60s, I didn't do drugs, and I wasn't a whore, so please don't imply that I brought any of that stuff on, because I didn't, I wasn't raised that way. I was raised to be respectful, to people and to my body. When I said I wrote things in my journal that I didn't want my dad to see what you don't understand is this growing up, I was molested by someone in my family at the age of 4 years old, as I got a little bit older, I'm put in my journal at the time, I felt like I didn't have a choice because of the way they threatened me, and remember, I was only 4, and I was very scared, I was so scared that I didn't tell my dad because he was abusive to me not sexually but mentally verbally and physically abusive. I knew my dad would kill this person, so before you put me down about it please remember, I was only 4 years old when it started, and if you haven't been through it, you don't have the right to comment about it, but please, don't act like I brought all of this stuff on me, I didn't do drugs, and I didn't sleep around. My life was very hard I don't appreciate you implying those things about me at all. It's not right.
At the end when jacquelines sister says life is cruel because the older you get you realize that her sister should have been in her life with kids etc i agree people are important not things we as humans take alot for granted with our glasses half full attitude we only have one life to live /peace
My father was a prosecutor too, crime and punishment are great , as long as you don't screw over innocent people. If you live in a country where you can have a gun, get one and learn how to use it.
To catch a killer team: if you're out there reading...did you also know about these two women, one from Aylmer Ontario who were picked up in a car, raped, murdered and dumped? Georgia Jackson of Aylmer, Ontario 18 years old, picked up in a car, raped, murdered dumped. Lynne Harper Clinton, Ontario, 1959, got into a car, raped, murdered and dumped. 50 YEARS AGO: THE GEORGIA JACKSON CASE (This is the second of three articles on the events of the Georgia Jackson murder case in Aylmer which occurred in February-March, 1966) After the discovery of Georgia Jackson’s body the apprehension in town continued as there was no indication the Police had any reasonable suspects. Aylmer Council paid their $500 reward to the man who found the body. They added a new reward of $1000 for information on the murderer. Malahide added $200 because the body was found in the township. Ontario also increased the reward pot by $1000. Aylmer Mayor Russell McKibbin, the Jackson family and some church elders all voiced their concern with how the Aylmer Police had handled the case - they felt there should have been a more serious and immediate approach. The Ontario Attorney General’s office said it would investigate the Police department’s procedures in the matter but no official condemnation resulted. Citizens were also concerned about a ‘prank call’ Mrs Jackson had received just nights after Georgia’s disappearance - a woman claimed to be Georgia and said “I am being held prisoner by two men downtown”, then there was sobbing and the phone went dead. (SEE: CFPL TV ARCHIIVES VIDEO CLIP, 1966) Eventually the case faded into memory - the killer unfound. Six years later, in January 1972, a Jehovah’s Witness elder from Toronto who was visiting the Aylmer church heard rumours that a local man might have been involved in the Jackson case. He questioned several in town and then drove to Kitchener to interview a David Bodemer. Bodemer was 21 when he attended the Aylmer church in 1966. He worked as a CNR sectionman, lived in Avon and in 1965 had married Elaine Crooker, the daughter of the church minister Albert Crooker. They had moved to Kitchener a year after the murder. After Bodemer’s interview the elder indicated he was satisfied that Bodemer was not a suspect. However, the next day Bodemer sent a message to the elder that he wanted him to return which he did with some other church leaders. Now he confessed. He said he had told his wife of his crime overnight. He signed a confession before his church peers. The Police were called. They also received a confession and arrested him in Avon as he apparently went there later in the day to visit friends. Suddenly the murderer was found. This was his story. He knew Georgia as he frequented the Aylmer Dairy Bar and he also knew her from church. He claimed he had no intention of harm, he was just out driving, when he offered her a ride home around 6:30 on that stormy Friday night. He said: “I don’t know what got into my mind to do this.” He then decided to drive to a side street and park. As he made advances she screamed and he took a pop bottle from the car and hit her over the head twice; she went unconscious. He then drove south of town. As he parked she awoke and began screaming again. He put his hand over her mouth as he ‘raped’ her and when he was done he realized she was not breathing. So he drove to the corner of Springfield Road and Glencolin Line and dumped her body by some woods (CORRECTION: Last week’s report should have indicated the body was found at the corner of Glencolin Line and Springfield Rd and not Glencolin Line/Hacienda Road). When he returned to the car he realized he still had her coat so he got rid of it as he drove west on Glencolin Line near Highway #73. He then returned to Aylmer to help his father in law with a cleaning job at the Bank of Montreal (present site). Albert Crooker later testified Bodemer arrived about 7:30 and stayed with him most of evening. Bodemer then helped in the searches that weekend. He was not interviewed by the Police as a suspect. The next year he and his wife moved. PHOTO: David Bodemer www.theaylmernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/db_jpg_thumb.png (Main Sources: Toronto Star, August 3/1966; Excerpts from ‘Murder City’ by Michael Arntfield; Articles and Pictures from the Elgin County Archives) 50 YEARS AGO: THE GEORGIA JACKSON CASE (This is the third of three articles on the events of the Georgia Jackson murder case in Aylmer which occurred in February-March, 1966) David Bodemer’s trial was held in the Supreme Court in the old St.Thomas courthouse before Justice Campbell Grant - there was an all male jury. The trial began on June 19, 1972 and continued for seven days. He was charged with non-capital murder (only capital murderers still faced the possibility of hanging)- he pleaded not guilty. It was noted that even though Bodemer, 27, was now a father of five children he had acquired a criminal past. He had been guilty of theft of railway items from his workplace on the CNR and he had also been picked up on numerous occasions by Kitchener Police for exhibitionism. Crown Attorney Doug Walker called some 43 witnesses, including members of the Jackson family who had moved out of Aylmer by this time. Defence lawyer David Little only called 5 witnesses. The jury was excused for parts of two days as the lawyers argued over the admissibility of the confession obtained by the Jehovah Witnesses’ elders but Judge Grant eventually allowed it. (The Defence later appealed the case over this decision but the appeal was denied.) Defence lawyer Little tried to prove that Bodemer lied and had fabricated the whole story - he pointed out his client had not completed Grade 9 and he had a psychiatrist testify that he was quite capable of making up stories. Little claimed the church elders had ‘bible thumped’ the confession out of him. Little did not put Bodemer on the stand. On June 27 after closing arguments, the jury only needed two hours to reach a verdict. Bodemer was found guilty and was sentenced to life imprisonment. However he only served ten years and was granted early release by the National Parole Board. NOTES - On the Monday after Georgia disappeared her father told the press he was sure his daughter had been abducted: “It looks as if someone was lying for her and took her away, either she was forced into a car or the driver was someone in whom she had placed her confidence.”…On that same day the Aylmer Police were checking on a truck that had left Aylmer for Toronto on the day of the disappearance as the driver was believed to have tried to date Georgia; the lead was unfounded…After the ‘prank’ call to Mrs. Jackson the Aylmer Police checked all vacant apartments downtown…The OPP entered the case after the Jacksons sent a telegram, following the discovery of her coat, to the Ontario Attorney General asking for their assistance…Even though her coat was blood stained the Police could not confirm it was Georgia’s blood as her church did not believe in blood sampling…The day after Georgia’s body was found her Jehovah’s Witness pastor Albert Crooker declared: “We know our own people and are positive that not one of them would contemplate a deed like this.” PHOTO: www.theaylmernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gj-e1458262843905.jpeg (Main Sources: Toronto Star, August 3/1966; Excerpts from ‘Murder City’ by Michael Arntfield; Articles and Pictures from the Elgin County Archives)
"David" has the heart shaped face that the one victim had had police sketch. His crime certainly aligns well with the murder and aftermath of Jackie English. Interesting.
I love my crime files and this is just what we need some new blood and new insight on cases I really like what you have Put together a very smart Group. I see they don't over look anything.a word for the new Detectives sometimes good old detective work help never Suppress evidence you all seem to be Going in the right direction .I like to hear you'll discuss the cases I'm going to be watching You'll more .very best of luck from me.Mrs P you senior citizen home investigator home bound but right with you.
David was released in 1983 after 10 yrs for murder? Each of these guys who are also sexual prededars serve very little time for taking someone's life? Again, what is a life worth, possibly your life or mine? I'm not saying death penalty but my god most serve even less time than 6 yrs with good behavior? I personally believe these men have murdered after being released legally? We all know they don't stop this behavior! If that had been my sister and David seems to be the one, I would be looking for him and the ghost the family is hiding! What a bunch of BS! I don't ever want to hear about the US system because talk about broken, and political reasons these guys are back out in 1/4 of the time the women they killed had a chance to live! Really burns my crank when I hear this and ya all come down on us for the punishments in the USA? Don't even bother ever again, I've definitely heard the same story 100s of times in these countries! Really pisses me off you can kill without consequences!
+Kerri Morris Canada, the UK and other commonwealth countries do not care about innocent victims of murder. The killers serve a ten year sentence then are released to kill again. The US executes theses lethal predators.
Pretty great show, thanks for the upload. The thing that kind of creeped me out was the makeup job done on the PI Monty, they had to have brought in a mortician to cover up his gin blossoms, he actually looked like a prepared talking corps during his interviews up close.
irene gronewald I commented on that statement also. He is a vigilante. A cops job is to follow the law. Leave the conviction if there is one to the court and jury. Some cops think they are judge ,jury and executioner. He is very dangerous.
I happen to like trying to figure out who, what, where, when, and how. Plus with people who have different intellectual backgrounds is better to hear theorys about this. Yet alot has changed in forty years and no one can physically go back so they must place themselves back in that time? But yes the past behavior is a window into future! Bleeps must be added for obvious reasons.
So creepy! What if a former law enforcement officer actually is not who he claims to Be,?🦈🤔🤔 If not, he definitely needs to work on his people skills! Academic skills Change with the Weather!!😒
So did they ever catch up with this David cat, to question him? That was great profiling. How would anyone go about going and looking into these cold cases to help solve them. Anyone with any clue?
I can't help but wonder why the LPD never linked this murder with the rash of other murders in the London area .. there was a heavily active serial murderer in London in this era ...
Aylmer ontario which is the hot spot in the red oval where "David" lived. His full names is David Bodemer. I put news clippings and a photo of him in my posts. Aylmer had a rash of women being picked up in a sedan car, one of them also a waitress at a Dairy Bar, raped, murdered and dumped. I put links and cut/paste into on that murder plus another above in the posts. Just look for my orange sunflower.
I think they were too quick to dispense with other suspects and focus on David (Bodemer). The only thing to tie him was a theory regarding the similarity of one other crime and its location. Not enough (given all of the other convolutions in the case) to completely rule out other suspects or unknown persons.
I agree, I think they did that because they are making a TV show and not really solving crimes. I don't think they really came up with anything new. Which would explain why there has been no news on the case.
Interesting vid, lived in the outer area for over 50 years, London has had more serial killers per capita than any other city in Canada, the stats now are changed but still safety is a large issue. Hope it will change for the better. Condolences to Jacqueline English's sister. Genetic genealogy might be able to close the file if the cost is covered. Lots of cold cases are being solved now. That's why cops took samples going back, knowing science would catch up. Be kind to each other, that's all we have.
omg how do I get THAT gig? Seriously. I have serious research skills (relentless!), and some expertise in the human anatomy field. I was an RN for 16 years, mostly spent in ICU and ER. I so dig what you are doing. I want in. :)
*As mentioned Robert William "Willy" Pickton* (born October 24, 1949) of Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada, is a Canadian serial killer convicted in 2007 of the second-degree murders of six women. *That would have been 1st degree murder everywhere else in the world* He was also charged with the deaths of an additional 20 women, many of them from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside; however, these charges were stayed by the Crown in 2010. *How?* In December 2007, he was sentenced to life in prison, with no possibility of parole for 25 years - the longest sentence then available for murder under Canadian law. *So a serial killer can be back on the street after 25 years in Canada*
I was interested to now how high the river back in the 60’s.if it was higher she may have been placed in the water closer to where her clothes were found and taken to that point by the current.
Oh c'mon grandma, it has been 4 decades now and this is no teenage crush secret gameplay anymore, this is a crime investigation now. Don't you care about your friend Jackie?
No, David Boedemer was arrested for killing Georgia Jackson and served about 10 years of a life sentence. He was released in '83. He is a suspected serial killer but only convicted for one murder.
You know, good to see people trying to solve cases like this. But does he have to do that stupid reality show scripted lines? "There's still an element of danger here" No there isn't. What's he going to do next? Come into the room and start yelling the job isn't going to get done on time?
"It's my job to make bad things happen to bad people." Ya, well, THAT's bullshit right there. What a shame that so many people believe it ... especially other cops! Your job is to search for leads wherever you can legally find them, and to uncover the details of a suspected criminal act, in the hopes that you can gather "evidence" that compellingly points you to one or more people whom you can name as "suspects". Compare that job description with the original quote.
The lady who says that she knows who the killer is, should be put in jail until she says who it is! There's a couple of statutes that they can use to do so! I personally think that she just wants the attention and doesn't know a damn thing!
Hi there. At 37.37min The town mentioned in the centre of the red zone where 'David' lives is Aylmer if I am not mistaken. I crossed referenced some locations and highways on Google Maps. They need to cover up the sensitive information better, I think. To Carol Weinberg: You chose to tune in and watch this episode. No one forced you! At least have the inculcation and honour to own your own actions without blaming someone else. If you know you have trouble with nightmares after watching this kind of think then simply don't. And, If you do again, then have the honesty to blame yourself...and don't take it out on the cat either! To those that question the results: To me, One solved case is worth all the effort. It depends what value you put on a human life. If you put time and money higher, then you will weigh it out and set a different value than I would. I am sure that The Squad know their limits, resources and which cases to go after. Try not to think so narrow. What would you want if you were in the situation of these hurting people trying to live out their lives not knowing!
I REALLY HOPE I HAVEN'T FINISHED THIS EPISODE YET BUT I REALLY HOPE THIS LADY WHO SAYS SHE WON'T GIVE UP WHO SHE KNOWS KILLED THIS PRECIOUS CHILDIS WITHIN YOUR DOCUMENTARY HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE MURDER HERSELF AS SOMEBODY INVOLVED AND IT DOESN'T MISLEAD THE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS DOCUMENTARY THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST KEEP TO THEMSELVES WHEN THEY KNOW SOMEBODY HAS HURT ANOTHER. SHE SHOULD BE LOCKED UP THAT'S DISGUSTING
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They may not be able to solve this cold case, but by highlighting it again it could prompt someone with knowledge to come forward who for whatever reason was not able to before.
I check in every few months on cases like this to see if there has been any progress.
@Nixon John O K?
So far so good...1/4 way thru. Great video, audio, and information to investigate. Still watching.....
Thanks for the heads up...I hate watching the unsolved cases.
that is so friggin cool that the original detective did all that extra work with his files. just from that, you could tell that he was an actual great cop.his son is awesome for speaking up and giving those to the new investigators. 2men who have beautiful hearts. ♡
Such a good idea assembling fresh, young computer literate minds to investigate crimes. I wish you all well, much respect.
Whats wrong with Netflix and Amazon Prime?
Yeah my shit stinks
To never catch a killer would be more appropriate.
Love their diverse methodologies for tracking the murderer,
This team should be the next up and coming tv series!
It was in 2014 but only aired 8 episodes for some reason. Unfortunate because stuff like this is fascinating.
Why isn't the friend charged for withholding evidence amongst other charges.
and she looks like such a bad person...maybe involved ?
Friend has mental issues.
Marilyn Hird was a very unreliable witness, kept changing stories and presenting things that were demonstrably false. She may know something or not. I think she may be protecting Rick Harrison, Betty Harrison's son. They were friends and he was potentially involved with the attack on his mother. Also, the relative they keep referring to is her brother and I believe he was eliminated as a suspect in the Jackie English case.
I say mental issues as well. I also think she is really scared of who did it.
Because it's Amerika the land of Confusion and Lie she's full blown into paganism 100 %
May Jackie find peace on the Other Side. I'm praying you all solve this sad case. God bless you all and keep fighting the good fight.
Wow! I am hooked! Thank you for posting this series!
Wow this is a Canadian show! It didn't register until almost the end of the episode. Excellent...one of the best I've seen anywhere. Well done!
Canadians make excellent cartoons.Stick with those and avoid shame & disgrace.
I disagree. From what I’ve seen it is way over produced and the lead veteran cop takes himself so seriously he is practically a self-parody.
It mentions London and other ont cities throughout
Wow, awesome team and I think you solved a cold case.
Marilyn clearly said "they" and that Jackie had invited her to go with 2 men but Mike ignored it and treated it as a lone job.
Awesome work by the team - more civilian teams should be formed like this, to work not only on cold-case but current cases as well....
how? is the case solved? NO
+Sarah Barber I wish I would've read your comments before I watched, because this was bullshit completely
+Toni Bunton glad I've just read your comment before I wasted time watching it lol thanks x
+hannah riley you're welcome lmao
Paula Leigh :
Please Look into the Cold Case of my Aunt Margret Sheeler ,That was murdered in 1963 in London Ontario. She was pregnant at the time of her murder.Please Help
So sorry for your family's loss.
So sorry for your loss.... hope the get the person that did this to her and her unborn baby...you are in my prayers
I would definitely write to one of the shows and keep pressure on your law inforcment!
crystal wesley oh I’m so sorry to hear that. My condolences. Hope you find out.
The shows producers aren't reading these comments. It was uploaded by a fan. Instead look up the show and see if there's a way to submit a case
very sad. now every time I drive on that overpass I'm going to think of her.
Sicko
I do every Sunday when going to Costco
I spotted “Lloyd” almost instantly in the diary code because I knew the victim probably wasn’t writing about a llama!
I was repeating it to the screen ... my kids where looking at me like I lost it. But glad they figured out the sequence for the rest of it.
I figured it was Lloyd or Llama and I doubted you'd need a secret code for writing about a llama
Great work.
This Hird woman needs to be charged with hindering a crime simple!
Decoding the diary entries is wild.great job
I paused it before they revealed any code they had, to see if I could decode it myself. We came up with the same thing.
However, they didn't mention the entirety of the encoded entries, I rewatched those close-ups of the diary multiple times, so here's what it says...
1st message: BBYOJ HVIZKF CEUUIJ AI. ---> "Lloyd french kissed me"
2nd message: GYT JVSZC. QMU KMVVEIJ EZTY LIJVYYA. QMU UTVEXXIJ. E HMCIJ TIMVU. ---> "Got drunk. Was carried into bedroom. Was stripped. I faked tears."
I figured being written in the first-person, that Jackie would likely omit the pronoun 'I' in most circumstances, as she is the doer of action or passive receiver of action. She did in each instance except for the part about faking tears.
@@rhysiare Wow... 🤓 This is amazing indeed that you could do that.
We will never give up Jackie xx
I had a cousin murdered in 1973. His parents were told by the police that they would be better off not pursueing it. Years later the siblings still are left hanging.
That is awful! Why would they do that unless corruption would be found. This is not right.
I was a teen in the USA, at that time. Many people hitched because young people never felt anyone who would want to hurt them.
Joyce Yagoda how naive, stay waY from television programming.
Well back then, a lot of young people did a lot of hitchhiking, and unfortunately, that's how a lot of them were killed. So sad, I'd, but it was a lot more of an innocent time, and teenagers always think they're invincible.
First--the Hird woman is obviously serious about moral issues because she stands by a promise she made. She also was tender-hearted towards her loved one, whom she considered wronged and noble for protecting a friend, which again indicates that she is an idealistic person. I think she is worth working on to persuade her that now is the time to reveal what she knows as the most moral and compassionate thing to do.
She has allowed the person she promised to experience life for decades without consequence by keeping her promise, which is honorable, but now she should take pity on the girl she knew and the family that has suffered all those same decades. At this point, shouldn't she think about which action is the higher ground: continuing to keep her promise, or allowing deserved consequences become possible so to give peace to those who have long suffered a terrible wrong? End her complacency and make her consider which action now is the moral "right."
Second--the same woman indicated that two were involved in the murder of Jackie, and one was her relative. Doesn't that mean that a relationship existed at the time of the murder between her relative and the other suspect "David" and couldn't that connection be proven?
The suspects composite gives you an insight through his eyes to just how evil this animal truly is/was. Watching true crime I have seen few as unnerving as that one.
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Why are you protecting the identities of convicted killers?
Because of legal reasons. it’s not proven so you have to be careful. Vigilante justice is a real thing and they don’t want to be liable for someone taking the law into their own hands and taking a baseball bat to this suspect.
It's a pity that this town turned out be another Mayberry, where life is layed back and murder is too much for them to handle.
ili awesome work..
Great friend Marilyn is won't help in any way....
Ironbutterfly I know - you'd have thought she'd have been arrested for withholding information or perverting the course of justice or something !
I think she has psychiatric issues. There's no way anyone in their right mind would tell a cop "I know who they are" but then not tell him after all these years. She's not a child anymore. Yet, she kind of is behaving like one. She may also have been a druggie, which would make her brain a horrible mess and she could hallucinate all kinds of things and make up memories.
@elfriede Jordan she surely didn't age well at all
Marilyn needs a good waterboarding
To protect n serve, to stop bad that thing's from happening to other people.
Chickasaw 963 I said the same. He’s a bad cop.
Cases never go cold. The only way it's gets cold is if the killer dies.
And so they do. Therefore , cases go cold by your own definition.
Mariln Hird lives in her own mind. Had a friend like this. They even look alike. In her mind she believes it. Not to be taken seriously. Her relative does nothing wrong, just takes the rap to protect others. REALLY
The relative they are talking about is her brother James and he was convicted of assaulting a young boy. I don't believe he was ever really a suspect in the Jackie english case.
The killer is The Forest Killer serial killer operating in the Ontario Canada área !
I don't think people should just be able to refuse to tell what they know--not in a murder case.
I agree..isn't that withholding information or an assessory after the fact kinda crime. Can't they charge her with something or at least scare her into thinking they can so she talks and spills the beans. Lol ☺
What??
The town they dont say is Alymer Ontario. I know this area. My family is all from Burwell and Vienna, just outsideTillsonburg and Aylmer.
Rick Lloyd killed her because he was jealous. She liked his brother, but really didn't care for Rick at all.
Do you have any hard evidence to prove this theory? Last I heard Rick was excluded as a suspect because witnesses spent time with him the night Jackie disappeared. That David Bodemer person is a MUCH more plausible suspect!....Jackie English's clothing was left near the same gravel pit located in the middle of nowhere, where Georgia Jacksons clothes and body were discovered...David Bodemer left Jackson's body and clothes at that same gravel pit shortly before Jackie English was abducted and killed. I doubt that Rick would have known about that gravel pit in the middle of nowhere, but we know for a fact that David Bodemer knew about it, and Jackie's shoes where found there.....It is completely plausible that Marilyn Hird's relative Jim Hird may have been an accomplice in the crime, but that is an unproven rumor.
@@thedoctalove1573 okay. Gut reaction, no real proof. Thanks for the straight.
@@patriciajrs46 You're welcome :) To be honest I don't think that the authorities have questioned David at all, which is somewhat surprising all things considered. I can't fathom why this case has not been followed up on, especially considering the fact that David is still alive ,and the information regarding his whereabouts was discovered on this show. I feel terrible for Jackie's sister Anne English, she has been through unmitigated hell because of all of this.
Jackie's friend, Marilyn, helped her friend to kill Jackie. That is why she was so distraught over everything. She became an accomplice. She couldn't live with the guilt! That is why she said the killers name would go with her to her grave. Either that or Marilyn herself, plotted everything and hooked someone else in as the accomplice. The Brother, Rick, was jealous that his Brother, (LLOYD), kissed Jackie! Marilyn was in on it. I have NO DOUBTS! She would have known Jackie's schedule and her walking route home. JS That's what I have deduced. Thanks!
Rick is Lloyd. That's his middle name. He's the brother of the boyfriend.
The background noise drove me away
The boyfriend offered his blood for DNA testing in 1969? I don't think soooo.
No DNA in 1969...
probably for blood typing which was done in 1969
Blood sample for comparison just means they were testing it against another blood type not DNA at that time. They just said it wrong. Nothing shady about the boyfriend there.
I thought the SAME exact thing lol!
Self-praise is no recommendation.
I have a friends who father worked with the green river killer at the Kenmore trucking factory for about twenty years.
I know a woman whose daughter was killed by Gary and she worked with him at Kenmore. He didn't know it was her daughter, until after he was caught. I have talked to a few people that worked with him and every single one of them, said he was really weird and had a creepy feeling about him.
Amazing people who cares ..... God bless you guys
Quite a collection of talent they have to throw at these cases. Be nicer if they had some personality about themselves. Listening to them is equivalent to reading computer data. The show itself has potential, but the characters are never going to win over a fan base.
You’re quite nice and gentle with your choice of words. I would just say they’re all full of shit and they’re appearance reminds me of a bologna sandwich.
We're talking about 1969. The reason she wrote it in code is because she didn't want her parents to know, I remember being a teenager, I wouldn't have wanted my parents to know about me kissing some boy, so of course she wrote it in code, it makes sense.
You're fine
@@chrisspearline767 Ummm 🤔 thanks..
You’re the generation that brought on the “sexual revolution” and drug use…
@@KellyfromMemphisDD214 Yeah, ok but I didn't personally bring that on, I was born in 71, not in the 60s, I didn't do drugs, and I wasn't a whore, so please don't imply that I brought any of that stuff on, because I didn't, I wasn't raised that way. I was raised to be respectful, to people and to my body.
When I said I wrote things in my journal that I didn't want my dad to see what you don't understand is this growing up, I was molested by someone in my family at the age of 4 years old, as I got a little bit older, I'm put in my journal at the time, I felt like I didn't have a choice because of the way they threatened me, and remember, I was only 4, and I was very scared, I was so scared that I didn't tell my dad because he was abusive to me not sexually but mentally verbally and physically abusive. I knew my dad would kill this person, so before you put me down about it please remember, I was only 4 years old when it started, and if you haven't been through it, you don't have the right to comment about it, but please, don't act like I brought all of this stuff on me, I didn't do drugs, and I didn't sleep around. My life was very hard I don't appreciate you implying those things about me at all. It's not right.
Caught that as well, insightfull sleuth
At the end when jacquelines sister says life is cruel because the older you get you realize that her sister should have been in her life with kids etc i agree people are important not things we as humans take alot for granted with our glasses half full attitude we only have one life to live /peace
Interesting, and Mike - what a hunk!
abhard6 Yeah, if you like bald men.
Surely names of convicts are public record. Why are you beeping them out?
My father was a prosecutor too, crime and punishment are great , as long as you don't screw over innocent people. If you live in a country where you can have a gun, get one and learn how to use it.
To catch a killer team: if you're out there reading...did you also know about these two women, one from Aylmer Ontario who were picked up in a car, raped, murdered and dumped?
Georgia Jackson of Aylmer, Ontario 18 years old, picked up in a car, raped, murdered dumped.
Lynne Harper Clinton, Ontario, 1959, got into a car, raped, murdered and dumped.
50 YEARS AGO: THE GEORGIA JACKSON CASE
(This is the second of three articles on the events of the Georgia Jackson murder case in Aylmer which occurred in February-March, 1966)
After the discovery of Georgia Jackson’s body the apprehension in town continued as there was no indication the Police had any reasonable suspects. Aylmer Council paid their $500 reward to the man who found the body. They added a new reward of $1000 for information on the murderer. Malahide added $200 because the body was found in the township. Ontario also increased the reward pot by $1000. Aylmer Mayor Russell McKibbin, the Jackson family and some church elders all voiced their concern with how the Aylmer Police had handled the case - they felt there should have been a more serious and immediate approach. The Ontario Attorney General’s office said it would investigate the Police department’s procedures in the matter but no official condemnation resulted. Citizens were also concerned about a ‘prank call’ Mrs Jackson had received just nights after Georgia’s disappearance - a woman claimed to be Georgia and said “I am being held prisoner by two men downtown”, then there was sobbing and the phone went dead. (SEE: CFPL TV ARCHIIVES VIDEO CLIP, 1966) Eventually the case faded into memory - the killer unfound.
Six years later, in January 1972, a Jehovah’s Witness elder from Toronto who was visiting the Aylmer church heard rumours that a local man might have been involved in the Jackson case. He questioned several in town and then drove to Kitchener to interview a David Bodemer. Bodemer was 21 when he attended the Aylmer church in 1966. He worked as a CNR sectionman, lived in Avon and in 1965 had married Elaine Crooker, the daughter of the church minister Albert Crooker. They had moved to Kitchener a year after the murder. After Bodemer’s interview the elder indicated he was satisfied that Bodemer was not a suspect.
However, the next day Bodemer sent a message to the elder that he wanted him to return which he did with some other church leaders. Now he confessed. He said he had told his wife of his crime overnight. He signed a confession before his church peers. The Police were called. They also received a confession and arrested him in Avon as he apparently went there later in the day to visit friends. Suddenly the murderer was found.
This was his story. He knew Georgia as he frequented the Aylmer Dairy Bar and he also knew her from church. He claimed he had no intention of harm, he was just out driving, when he offered her a ride home around 6:30 on that stormy Friday night. He said: “I don’t know what got into my mind to do this.” He then decided to drive to a side street and park. As he made advances she screamed and he took a pop bottle from the car and hit her over the head twice; she went unconscious. He then drove south of town. As he parked she awoke and began screaming again. He put his hand over her mouth as he ‘raped’ her and when he was done he realized she was not breathing. So he drove to the corner of Springfield Road and Glencolin Line and dumped her body by some woods (CORRECTION: Last week’s report should have indicated the body was found at the corner of Glencolin Line and Springfield Rd and not Glencolin Line/Hacienda Road). When he returned to the car he realized he still had her coat so he got rid of it as he drove west on Glencolin Line near Highway #73. He then returned to Aylmer to help his father in law with a cleaning job at the Bank of Montreal (present site). Albert Crooker later testified Bodemer arrived about 7:30 and stayed with him most of evening. Bodemer then helped in the searches that weekend. He was not interviewed by the Police as a suspect. The next year he and his wife moved.
PHOTO: David Bodemer
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(Main Sources: Toronto Star, August 3/1966; Excerpts from ‘Murder City’ by Michael Arntfield; Articles and Pictures from the Elgin County Archives)
50 YEARS AGO: THE GEORGIA JACKSON CASE
(This is the third of three articles on the events of the Georgia Jackson murder case in Aylmer which occurred in February-March, 1966)
David Bodemer’s trial was held in the Supreme Court in the old St.Thomas courthouse before Justice Campbell Grant - there was an all male jury. The trial began on June 19, 1972 and continued for seven days. He was charged with non-capital murder (only capital murderers still faced the possibility of hanging)- he pleaded not guilty.
It was noted that even though Bodemer, 27, was now a father of five children he had acquired a criminal past. He had been guilty of theft of railway items from his workplace on the CNR and he had also been picked up on numerous occasions by Kitchener Police for exhibitionism.
Crown Attorney Doug Walker called some 43 witnesses, including members of the Jackson family who had moved out of Aylmer by this time. Defence lawyer David Little only called 5 witnesses. The jury was excused for parts of two days as the lawyers argued over the admissibility of the confession obtained by the Jehovah Witnesses’ elders but Judge Grant eventually allowed it. (The Defence later appealed the case over this decision but the appeal was denied.) Defence lawyer Little tried to prove that Bodemer lied and had fabricated the whole story - he pointed out his client had not completed Grade 9 and he had a psychiatrist testify that he was quite capable of making up stories. Little claimed the church elders had ‘bible thumped’ the confession out of him. Little did not put Bodemer on the stand.
On June 27 after closing arguments, the jury only needed two hours to reach a verdict. Bodemer was found guilty and was sentenced to life imprisonment. However he only served ten years and was granted early release by the National Parole Board.
NOTES - On the Monday after Georgia disappeared her father told the press he was sure his daughter had been abducted: “It looks as if someone was lying for her and took her away, either she was forced into a car or the driver was someone in whom she had placed her confidence.”…On that same day the Aylmer Police were checking on a truck that had left Aylmer for Toronto on the day of the disappearance as the driver was believed to have tried to date Georgia; the lead was unfounded…After the ‘prank’ call to Mrs. Jackson the Aylmer Police checked all vacant apartments downtown…The OPP entered the case after the Jacksons sent a telegram, following the discovery of her coat, to the Ontario Attorney General asking for their assistance…Even though her coat was blood stained the Police could not confirm it was Georgia’s blood as her church did not believe in blood sampling…The day after Georgia’s body was found her Jehovah’s Witness pastor Albert Crooker declared: “We know our own people and are positive that not one of them would contemplate a deed like this.”
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(Main Sources: Toronto Star, August 3/1966; Excerpts from ‘Murder City’ by Michael Arntfield; Articles and Pictures from the Elgin County Archives)
"David" has the heart shaped face that the one victim had had police sketch. His crime certainly aligns well with the murder and aftermath of Jackie English. Interesting.
I love my crime files and this is just what we need some new blood and new insight on cases I really like what you have Put together a very smart Group. I see they don't over look anything.a word for the new Detectives sometimes good old detective work help never Suppress evidence you all seem to be Going in the right direction .I like to hear you'll discuss the cases I'm going to be watching You'll more .very best of luck from me.Mrs P you senior citizen home investigator home bound but right with you.
David was released in 1983 after 10 yrs for murder? Each of these guys who are also sexual prededars serve very little time for taking someone's life? Again, what is a life worth, possibly your life or mine? I'm not saying death penalty but my god most serve even less time than 6 yrs with good behavior? I personally believe these men have murdered after being released legally? We all know they don't stop this behavior! If that had been my sister and David seems to be the one, I would be looking for him and the ghost the family is hiding! What a bunch of BS! I don't ever want to hear about the US system because talk about broken, and political reasons these guys are back out in 1/4 of the time the women they killed had a chance to live! Really burns my crank when I hear this and ya all come down on us for the punishments in the USA? Don't even bother ever again, I've definitely heard the same story 100s of times in these countries! Really pisses me off you can kill without consequences!
+Kerri Morris Canada, the UK and other commonwealth countries do not care about innocent victims of murder. The killers serve a ten year sentence then are released to kill again. The US executes theses lethal predators.
+James Bond not all murderers
+James Bond USA also executes innocent people.
very few get executed and often killers get out early as well.
only that in all other western countries, homicides are about 1/5th of what they are in the states.
Virginia USA, I hope you catch this S.O.B🙏🙏🙏❤
Wow, finally decent sound
If the killer is not caught I don't see the point of this
Pretty great show, thanks for the upload. The thing that kind of creeped me out was the makeup job done on the PI Monty, they had to have brought in a mortician to cover up his gin blossoms, he actually looked like a prepared talking corps during his interviews up close.
Your going at her the wrong way. As a police man. She IS the one that needs protected. You must get her trust and explain that to her.
"make bad things happen to bad people"
irene gronewald I commented on that statement also. He is a vigilante. A cops job is to follow the law. Leave the conviction if there is one to the court and jury. Some cops think they are judge ,jury and executioner. He is very dangerous.
@@oceanbreeze3215 A good cop treats everyone respectfully.
I happen to like trying to figure out who, what, where, when, and how. Plus with people who have different intellectual backgrounds is better to hear theorys about this. Yet alot has changed in forty years and no one can physically go back so they must place themselves back in that time? But yes the past behavior is a window into future! Bleeps must be added for obvious reasons.
Kerri Morris as they say in psych circles, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Interesting and true insight into people
I appreciate that its canadian eh!!!!
So creepy! What if a former law enforcement officer actually is not who he claims to Be,?🦈🤔🤔 If not, he definitely needs to work on his people skills! Academic skills Change with the Weather!!😒
Golly, I had the same diary about the same time
Nice biceps Mike
So did they ever catch up with this David cat, to question him? That was great profiling. How would anyone go about going and looking into these cold cases to help solve them. Anyone with any clue?
God sees all. He knows who killed Jackie. Justice will be serve one way or the other.
Christina Phillips God does not know about illusionary dreams
If god sees all why doesn't he tell someone who the murderer is, you know like somebody who's praying for answers? Ridiculous.
I can't help but wonder why the LPD never linked this murder with the rash of other murders in the London area .. there was a heavily active serial murderer in London in this era ...
Aylmer ontario which is the hot spot in the red oval where "David" lived. His full names is David Bodemer. I put news clippings and a photo of him in my posts. Aylmer had a rash of women being picked up in a sedan car, one of them also a waitress at a Dairy Bar, raped, murdered and dumped. I put links and cut/paste into on that murder plus another above in the posts. Just look for my orange sunflower.
I think they were too quick to dispense with other suspects and focus on David (Bodemer). The only thing to tie him was a theory regarding the similarity of one other crime and its location. Not enough (given all of the other convolutions in the case) to completely rule out other suspects or unknown persons.
I agree, I think they did that because they are making a TV show and not really solving crimes. I don't think they really came up with anything new. Which would explain why there has been no news on the case.
that's where the murderer lived
Might been a cop who did this. She gotten in vehicle by someone she knew most likely
Good on you it has now been solved, 2019.
"We did not walk the streets at night." Even now in 2019 you shouldn't walk the steets of London, Ontario at night.
Is it really that bad?
Interesting vid, lived in the outer area for over 50 years, London has had more serial killers per capita than any other city in Canada, the stats now are changed but still safety is a large issue. Hope it will change for the better. Condolences to Jacqueline English's sister. Genetic genealogy might be able to close the file if the cost is covered. Lots of cold cases are being solved now. That's why cops took samples going back, knowing science would catch up. Be kind to each other, that's all we have.
omg how do I get THAT gig? Seriously. I have serious research skills (relentless!), and some expertise in the human anatomy field. I was an RN for 16 years, mostly spent in ICU and ER. I so dig what you are doing. I want in. :)
Me too. I'm an excellent researcher. I wish I could work at a job like this, looking into cold cases. I want to help the victims' families.
Are you attractive? I’m sure that matters more.
Happy is the criminal that never got caught
Lots never get caught. Some crimes are perfect. Ie Jack the ripper.
Fifty years as of 2019. Geez.
2020 now
They did`nt solve shit !
They're all talk.
I just looked at the first encryption and knew it was Lloyd. There's nothing else that would fit.
*As mentioned Robert William "Willy" Pickton* (born October 24, 1949) of Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada, is a Canadian serial killer convicted in 2007 of the second-degree murders of six women. *That would have been 1st degree murder everywhere else in the world* He was also charged with the deaths of an additional 20 women, many of them from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside; however, these charges were stayed by the Crown in 2010. *How?* In December 2007, he was sentenced to life in prison, with no possibility of parole for 25 years - the longest sentence then available for murder under Canadian law. *So a serial killer can be back on the street after 25 years in Canada*
Grizzly Country
Should get a court order and serve that lady that doesn't want to talk, just tell that murder has no stature of limitations....
very sad case .dude did not get enough time in jail both times .the second time hardly any time .the people could sue if there names are used
I was interested to now how high the river back in the 60’s.if it was higher she may have been placed in the water closer to where her clothes were found and taken to that point by the current.
Any update???
Oh c'mon grandma, it has been 4 decades now and this is no teenage crush secret gameplay anymore, this is a crime investigation now. Don't you care about your friend Jackie?
Did he David bleep ever get arrested for this though?!!!
No, David Boedemer was arrested for killing Georgia Jackson and served about 10 years of a life sentence. He was released in '83. He is a suspected serial killer but only convicted for one murder.
Why does it keep blipping out. Very frustrating
He said she said that’s all they ever get , I remember this show and they never solved one case .
You know, good to see people trying to solve cases like this.
But does he have to do that stupid reality show scripted lines?
"There's still an element of danger here"
No there isn't.
What's he going to do next? Come into the room and start yelling the job isn't going to get done on time?
This story needs a narrator
Unbelievable.
"It's my job to make bad things happen to bad people." Ya, well, THAT's bullshit right there. What a shame that so many people believe it ... especially other cops! Your job is to search for leads wherever you can legally find them, and to uncover the details of a suspected criminal act, in the hopes that you can gather "evidence" that compellingly points you to one or more people whom you can name as "suspects". Compare that job description with the original quote.
Stop... BLINKING! o_____o
hopefully jackie's murder will be solved :o
I believe it's a cop!
The bf gave a blood sample at the time that was compared with a DNA sample "found at the scene"??? She was found floating, nude, in a river!!?? wth??
With what? Bodies float you git.
@@skinnykarlos710 But being submerged in water there wouldn't likely be any of the murderer's DNA left on her.
The lady who says that she knows who the killer is, should be put in jail until she says who it is! There's a couple of statutes that they can use to do so! I personally think that she just wants the attention and doesn't know a damn thing!
This is too scripted for me. Sounds memorized.
Hi there. At 37.37min The town mentioned in the centre of the red zone where 'David' lives is Aylmer if I am not mistaken. I crossed referenced some locations and highways on Google Maps. They need to cover up the sensitive information better, I think.
To Carol Weinberg: You chose to tune in and watch this episode. No one forced you! At least have the inculcation and honour to own your own actions without blaming someone else. If you know you have trouble with nightmares after watching this kind of think then simply don't. And, If you do again, then have the honesty to blame yourself...and don't take it out on the cat either!
To those that question the results: To me, One solved case is worth all the effort. It depends what value you put on a human life. If you put time and money higher, then you will weigh it out and set a different value than I would. I am sure that The Squad know their limits, resources and which cases to go after. Try not to think so narrow. What would you want if you were in the situation of these hurting people trying to live out their lives not knowing!
Yes, to are right and the full name is David Bodemer.
I REALLY HOPE I HAVEN'T FINISHED THIS EPISODE YET BUT I REALLY HOPE THIS LADY WHO SAYS SHE WON'T GIVE UP WHO SHE KNOWS KILLED THIS PRECIOUS CHILDIS WITHIN YOUR DOCUMENTARY HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE MURDER HERSELF AS SOMEBODY INVOLVED AND IT DOESN'T MISLEAD THE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS DOCUMENTARY THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST KEEP TO THEMSELVES WHEN THEY KNOW SOMEBODY HAS HURT ANOTHER. SHE SHOULD BE LOCKED UP THAT'S DISGUSTING
The main guy Mike,he has a very slight accent that I can’t quite place. Do you hear it? Maybe he’s from Fargo or somewhere in that area?
Alison H he has to be from the area..
It's called "Canadian" eh.
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