I think TMS is simply anxiety expressing itself physically through the body. This story is very helpful to me, have had every symptom she mentioned and more. Amazing what the brain can do. Excellent video, thank you!
I hadn't seen someone say this but I've been thinking it a lot. For a long time I thought of my TMS and my anxiety as two different problems, but TMS is just anxiety symptoms.
I think you're right in most cases. However, with Covid as in this case there was a genuine fear of something quite real --- a worldwide pandemic worse than anything since the flu of 1918-20. The fear was quite real, whereas anxiety is fear for no reason of something safe. No-one could feel completely safe with Covid, so the fear often became trapped in the body. Only if fully felt, expressed, and processed could people deal with such an overwhelming example of the world becoming truly unsafe for a time.
I think these stories are so important for so many reasons and it shows how the mind/body connection can influence such a vast array of symptoms! So brave for this young lady to share her story! Very powerful! Thank you!
Absolutely LOVE this ❤ I overcame a 7 year anxiety disorder by using the techniques from books such as DARE and At Last A Life by Paul David. I lived a life free from anxiety for 6 years before getting Covid, which has ended up with me having Long Covid for over 2 years now. Your symptoms were almost exactly the same as the ones I have. I'm currently 4 weeks away from giving birth and my pregnancy has been rough to say the least, but when my baby is born, I will be embarking upon my commitment to my recovery journey. Thanks so much for sharing this inspiring story ❤
Just Wow! So glad I found this video today.... The BEST recovery interview I've seen and I've watched a good few! This could be me... Struggling for too many years to count but really in a bad place at the moment... I cried listening to this. Have just bought the audio version of the book DARE that was mentioned. Going to listen now. I will also be keeping this video to watch over and over... Big Big Thank you to both of you for making this! 🙏💞
That was AWESOME!! Determination! I've always been a determined person but I've lost it someplace in the midst of 20 years of struggling. Thank you Belle for helping me find it again!! I want my life back!! I'll borrow it from you for awhile 😉. Here I go!!! ♥️😊
What a powerful story of persistence, patience and ultimately triumph! Belle, I would love to send a couple of my students your way. You have a lot to offer clients with your psychotherapy background and personal recovery story! And Jim, thanks for all the healing and hope you spread in the world!
Thank you for your experience. I relate very much with your story. Crazy stuff. I was reading TMS book by E. Sarno and the main focus is anger. But in my case I instinctly knew that fear was a bigger driver. And this conversation highlighted that. Anger is a better place to be than fear. I find anger a great motivator also. And source of good energy. It's not anger against the world, but anger towards getting better and doing the right things.
This was a very powerful interview. I’m so happy that Belle has fully recovered and is able to be there again for her family. She’ll be able to teach her kids how to overcome fear, which is such an important lesson. I can really relate to her behavioural fear, especially leaving her comfort zone.
Such a similar story & similar symptoms. Amaaazing, resilient woman! ❤❤ It’s so tricky to work around the medical symptom when you know about the mindbody connection. Good job working through that, my goodness. Great work Jim! Thank you both for this incredible success story.
That’s what I’m finding with this journey. There are no shortcuts or secret sauces. You keep at it & keep at it from a compassionate & resilient place.
What an inspiring interview! It really connects so many dots that are crucial for Mind-Body conditions. The anxiety and underlying emotions, trauma, coping mechanisms, and how to overcome it. Many thanks!!
It’s the third time over the course of my life I experience this condition. This time it’s LC ( the virus was the cherry on the cake). All of the times it was triggered by extreme (health) anxiety. I really wonder why it hasn’t been taken into serious account by the health care system and treat it gracefully as a mental health condition by applying mind body or other similar interventions… Great interview and so relatable ❤
I can relate to her story. All my anxiety started with heart palpitations along with hpylori infection over five years ago. The infects cleared but unfortunately the heart palpitations never went away. They scare the life out of me. I’ve been cleared by multiple cardiologist. I’m now currently dealing with PPPD like symptoms. My vision and brain seem to not be on the same page. I feel off especially when I look from one thing to another. Such an awful feeling along with other symptoms like dry eyes and blurry vision. HELP!
Thank you for sharing! I realized that there were a bunch of things I didn't want to be doing recently, and it was important for me to say no, and only do what I wanted to. I can't live my life for others any more. I just had an extinction burst after 2 weeks of facing EVERYTHING! But I'm here. Thank you! ❤
I’ve been pushing myself lately going to far places doing yard work on a hot day little by little but like she said I’ve feel I got knocked out been like this for the past days I got this !
Great recovery story. I admire your strength, resiliance and determination. Fantastic work. Im currently on a very similar journey - 2 years in. Thanks Jim and Belle Would love to check out your website Belle if its ready 👍🏻
@32:50 you talk about continueing, but when you have massive anxiety or a crash with insomnia, it's kinda hard to 'keep going', like what do you do in such moments?
Great recovery story Belle. Did you go to a therapist to deal with the emotional side? Or did you just work with Jim? Just wondering how you resolved and understood and processed the emotions from the early trauma. Thank you if you can reply.
I had a medical trauma at 13. Brain tumour and then got an eating disorder. Mirror symptoms. Didn’t process the trauma. Same manifestation. Am I able to contact you directly? Then I had CFS. Your determination is fantastic. Thank you. Rachael , Northampton. UK.
what a fabulous success story - may i ask if you have worked with anyone with vax injury ? i have severe neuropathy post booster and have been trying to heal it for 16months now
Im 70. Unvaxed. Had covid jan 2022. Feet were numb. 17 months ea day mild but ea day. Now its worse burning numb and creeping up. I had prostatitus in 2015. My feet went numb too. I discovered TMS! Gone in 2 weeks. Now this. Im fit. Lift weights 30” waist. It is a mind body issue! So is yours! We must lose a fear of it. We re not tissue damaged
@@tominnc315 wow - thank you so much for sharing this. Ive had the numbness and tingles this whole time too.... hands and feet and at times all over the whole body including face/mouth. how are you doing now ? is it still all gone? im starting the lightning process next month so im very hopeful. ive heard the covid is easier to fix then the vax injury - but maybe thats all wrong
@@thepainpt thank you so much. ive signed up for the lightning process- but i will keep in touch. so are the vax injured doing well now > are the symptoms able toall go ? warmest . x
You’re story and symptoms are so much like mine. I also catastrophize all symptoms because I have health anxiety due to a childhood medical trauma. But instead of long haul Covid, I’m going through benzodiazapine withdrawal/tapering. I, too, am unable to walk due to fears and lack of safety issues. I actually thought I was dying while walking in an area where I couldn’t see my house from. I can walk as long as I can see my house, but not more than that. I also have POTS and about 20 other health issues. I’m often practically bed ridden and housebound. I actually think I’m now agoraphobic due to the terror of C@v!d. Jim, I’m wondering if you have helped anyone who is tapering off benzos?
Yes I have. Quite a few people who have tapered off benzos. To me sounds like you have to keep gradually confronting and moving through the anxiety. I would focus on that
@@thepainpt could it be both? I believe I was put on a benzo for insomnia which was due to TMS which I now feel I have had on and off my entire life but had a final crash years ago that included full body nerve pain and than I was taken off the benzo cold turkey in the middle of that. It has been 6 years and although better still suffering quit alot. I get confused as to what is causing the symptoms because they are so similar or maybe it is the same thing at this point?
Wow!! Such a great success story. I am really struggling with this. I think I have had TMS symptoms since I was a child. I have suffered with anorexia, depression, health anxiety and now chronic widespread pain and panic disorder. I have been in therapy all my life and nothing really helped. I can relate to her story a lot. I can't afford any TMS coach. I did do the curable group boot camp last year but I still am stuck. The fear is so bad.
You can do this you just have to get over your fear one day at a time. Remember it’s just anxiety there’s no danger in any of these symptoms. If you’re interested in my groups you get a lot of support over the month for the cost of one session
You had mast cell activation. Very common with the jab and the disease. Brain starts to over react as well as mast cells. I am going through this now. Just starting my brain retraining
That’s half the battle as they say. In fact, I think it’s the most important is how you handle that. Very simply are you acting and behaving and believing that it is something sinister
Thanks for the answer. For 99% I do believe it is TMS/the brain. I have lots of proof it is. However I don’t know what to do during a set back. Keep pushing and try to do things or wait till it is over. I am in my worst set back since my recovery. Extremely tired brainfog and dizziness. Makes it hard to go outside and take care of my daughter. I booked a holiday in september so I Really hope I am back on my feet again by then
That certainly sounds like anxiety is crippling you can get over this. Right now the first thing I would do is take steps to move forward and not listen to the anxiety. Otherwise you’ll be controlled by it and it only gets worse.
Unbelief is the only problem anyone Ever had,Granted 🙏😇in the beginning was the word and the word was God and God is love... love Was manifested in the flesh and dwelt among us"Jesus"when they crucified him before he ascended he decended and took the keys to death and Hell and on the 3rd day he arose again and said here's the keys to death and Hell , love God and Love your fellow man on these 2 hang All The laws and prophets.. the 10 commandments,if you do these you won't break 1...but since you are not perfect here's My gift to you before I ascend to the Father.. IAM with you and in you All even until the end of the world... now I go to sit down at the right hand of the Father and IAM in you,where do you sit¿?at the right hand of the Father! All power in heaven and earth (Love)Was given to me and IAM in you!!!who has All power in Heaven and Earth¿?you... He was God manifest in the flesh!!Who Are you¿?God manifest in the flesh!!! God is Love and in us all...😇🙏💯
I think TMS is simply anxiety expressing itself physically through the body. This story is very helpful to me, have had every symptom she mentioned and more. Amazing what the brain can do. Excellent video, thank you!
Yes somitization? As.one symptom moves changes another comes albeit for me years
Yes, fear of symptoms keeps the symptoms manifesting in the body, TMS is anxiety.
I hadn't seen someone say this but I've been thinking it a lot. For a long time I thought of my TMS and my anxiety as two different problems, but TMS is just anxiety symptoms.
I think you're right in most cases. However, with Covid as in this case there was a genuine fear of something quite real --- a worldwide pandemic worse than anything since the flu of 1918-20. The fear was quite real, whereas anxiety is fear for no reason of something safe. No-one could feel completely safe with Covid, so the fear often became trapped in the body. Only if fully felt, expressed, and processed could people deal with such an overwhelming example of the world becoming truly unsafe for a time.
DR SARNO said anxiety is a version of TMS!
I think these stories are so important for so many reasons and it shows how the mind/body connection can influence such a vast array of symptoms! So brave for this young lady to share her story! Very powerful! Thank you!
Absolutely LOVE this ❤
I overcame a 7 year anxiety disorder by using the techniques from books such as DARE and At Last A Life by Paul David.
I lived a life free from anxiety for 6 years before getting Covid, which has ended up with me having Long Covid for over 2 years now. Your symptoms were almost exactly the same as the ones I have. I'm currently 4 weeks away from giving birth and my pregnancy has been rough to say the least, but when my baby is born, I will be embarking upon my commitment to my recovery journey. Thanks so much for sharing this inspiring story ❤
Congrats on the baby 😊🥳
Just Wow! So glad I found this video today.... The BEST recovery interview I've seen and I've watched a good few! This could be me... Struggling for too many years to count but really in a bad place at the moment... I cried listening to this. Have just bought the audio version of the book DARE that was mentioned. Going to listen now. I will also be keeping this video to watch over and over... Big Big Thank you to both of you for making this! 🙏💞
That was AWESOME!! Determination! I've always been a determined person but I've lost it someplace in the midst of 20 years of struggling. Thank you Belle for helping me find it again!! I want my life back!! I'll borrow it from you for awhile 😉. Here I go!!! ♥️😊
What a powerful story of persistence, patience and ultimately triumph! Belle, I would love to send a couple of my students your way. You have a lot to offer clients with your psychotherapy background and personal recovery story! And Jim, thanks for all the healing and hope you spread in the world!
Thanks Rebecca!! I appreciate you and the work you’re doing help so many people since your recovery
@@thepainpt Aww, thanks so much for everything, Jim! I am truly grateful for how much you helped me in my recovery and that I now get to help others!
This story is identical to my story. Thanks Jim for this recovery story, it gives me hope. I have long covid for 2 years.
Thank you for your experience. I relate very much with your story. Crazy stuff. I was reading TMS book by E. Sarno and the main focus is anger. But in my case I instinctly knew that fear was a bigger driver. And this conversation highlighted that. Anger is a better place to be than fear. I find anger a great motivator also. And source of good energy. It's not anger against the world, but anger towards getting better and doing the right things.
A very strong powerful story…Jim your caring is a big. part of our recovery…thanks
This was a very powerful interview. I’m so happy that Belle has fully recovered and is able to be there again for her family. She’ll be able to teach her kids how to overcome fear, which is such an important lesson. I can really relate to her behavioural fear, especially leaving her comfort zone.
ANOTHER great success story - bravo Jim 👏🏼 and Belle!!
Belle- so pleased you’re going onto work in this field, You’ll be a fantastic ambassador 🙏🏼😊
Thanks Dan appreciate it you’re another big success story yourself!!
Such a similar story & similar symptoms. Amaaazing, resilient woman! ❤❤
It’s so tricky to work around the medical symptom when you know about the mindbody connection. Good job working through that, my goodness.
Great work Jim! Thank you both for this incredible success story.
That’s what I’m finding with this journey. There are no shortcuts or secret sauces. You keep at it & keep at it from a compassionate & resilient place.
Belle, your strength is amazing
What an amazing testimonial - thank you Belle for sharing your recovery story which is So inspiring.
Hey Jim great to hear another success story . I just popped on today for a nosey but I’m still very well . Thank you 😍
Anger is higher up on the emotional scale than fear
Belle, thank you for doing this. It is helping all of us❤️
I'm memorising the "fear is the mind killer" quote from dune, whenever I feel my symptoms kicking off I recite it to myself
What an inspiring interview! It really connects so many dots that are crucial for Mind-Body conditions. The anxiety and underlying emotions, trauma, coping mechanisms, and how to overcome it. Many thanks!!
I can Relate to every word ..Thank for sharing your story❤
It’s the third time over the course of my life I experience this condition. This time it’s LC ( the virus was the cherry on the cake). All of the times it was triggered by extreme (health) anxiety. I really wonder why it hasn’t been taken into serious account by the health care system and treat it gracefully as a mental health condition by applying mind body or other similar interventions… Great interview and so relatable ❤
Brilliant. Thank you for sharing your story!
Amazing story ! What a brave , determined wife and mom .
This channel is so inspirational and informative . 🦋🌻
I can relate to her story. All my anxiety started with heart palpitations along with hpylori infection over five years ago. The infects cleared but unfortunately the heart palpitations never went away. They scare the life out of me. I’ve been cleared by multiple cardiologist. I’m now currently dealing with PPPD like symptoms. My vision and brain seem to not be on the same page. I feel off especially when I look from one thing to another. Such an awful feeling along with other symptoms like dry eyes and blurry vision. HELP!
Thank you for sharing! I realized that there were a bunch of things I didn't want to be doing recently, and it was important for me to say no, and only do what I wanted to. I can't live my life for others any more. I just had an extinction burst after 2 weeks of facing EVERYTHING! But I'm here. Thank you! ❤
Such a great recovery story ! Thank you for sharing!
I’ve been pushing myself lately going to far places doing yard work on a hot day little by little but like she said I’ve feel I got knocked out been like this for the past days I got this !
This was incredible❤ So inspiring
Great recovery story. I admire your strength, resiliance and determination. Fantastic work. Im currently on a very similar journey - 2 years in. Thanks Jim and Belle
Would love to check out your website Belle if its ready 👍🏻
Love success stories! Although I don't suffer from chronic pain, I currently recovering from chronic dizziness. Same principles apply!
I have the same chronic dizziness and am working through it not easy but it gets easier
@@dianedrummond2624 yep, look up the steady coach. Great channel
Me too! Well it's more a rocking/swaying...on a boat feeling. Is that what your experiencing?
@@amandar614 no. Mine is shakey/wobbley vision and head heaviness. Look up steady coach. She can help you heal to 100%
@@amandar614 yes pppd I’m doing the community group course with Dr Yonit Arthur
A lovely recovery story!!
This was so good!
So much information!
Shes a lovely girl
Go girl
Thnx ++++
Best of luck
I feel u power strength
Nd i feel u path
Blessings bod
I've just purchased DARE book!!
Superbly informative and inspirational recovery story thank you both 👏👏
@32:50 you talk about continueing, but when you have massive anxiety or a crash with insomnia, it's kinda hard to 'keep going', like what do you do in such moments?
This gave me so much hope! Similar story here
Dare also has an app it's brilliant for the mind, its helped me so much.
Great success story❤
WOW thanks for sharing
Great recovery story Belle. Did you go to a therapist to deal with the emotional side? Or did you just work with Jim? Just wondering how you resolved and understood and processed the emotions from the early trauma. Thank you if you can reply.
I had a medical trauma at 13. Brain tumour and then got an eating disorder. Mirror symptoms. Didn’t process the trauma. Same manifestation. Am I able to contact you directly? Then I had CFS. Your determination is fantastic. Thank you. Rachael , Northampton. UK.
What was the name of the anxiety website that was mentioned?
what a fabulous success story - may i ask if you have worked with anyone with vax injury ? i have severe neuropathy post booster and have been trying to heal it for 16months now
Yes I have we treat it in the same way because at this point it’s typically the brain that’s driving the reactions
Reach out if you want one to one support in getting over this. Just go to my website.
Im 70. Unvaxed. Had covid jan 2022. Feet were numb. 17 months ea day mild but ea day. Now its worse burning numb and creeping up. I had prostatitus in 2015. My feet went numb too. I discovered TMS! Gone in 2 weeks. Now this. Im fit. Lift weights 30” waist. It is a mind body issue! So is yours! We must lose a fear of it. We re not tissue damaged
@@tominnc315 wow - thank you so much for sharing this. Ive had the numbness and tingles this whole time too.... hands and feet and at times all over the whole body including face/mouth. how are you doing now ? is it still all gone? im starting the lightning process next month so im very hopeful. ive heard the covid is easier to fix then the vax injury - but maybe thats all wrong
@@thepainpt thank you so much. ive signed up for the lightning process- but i will keep in touch. so are the vax injured doing well now > are the symptoms able toall go ? warmest . x
You’re story and symptoms are so much like mine. I also catastrophize all symptoms because I have health anxiety due to a childhood medical trauma. But instead of long haul Covid, I’m going through benzodiazapine withdrawal/tapering. I, too, am unable to walk due to fears and lack of safety issues. I actually thought I was dying while walking in an area where I couldn’t see my house from. I can walk as long as I can see my house, but not more than that. I also have POTS and about 20 other health issues. I’m often practically bed ridden and housebound. I actually think I’m now agoraphobic due to the terror of C@v!d. Jim, I’m wondering if you have helped anyone who is tapering off benzos?
Yes I have. Quite a few people who have tapered off benzos. To me sounds like you have to keep gradually confronting and moving through the anxiety. I would focus on that
I feel trapped or housebound too.
@@thepainpt could it be both? I believe I was put on a benzo for insomnia which was due to TMS which I now feel I have had on and off my entire life but had a final crash years ago that included full body nerve pain and than I was taken off the benzo cold turkey in the middle of that. It has been 6 years and although better still suffering quit alot. I get confused as to what is causing the symptoms because they are so similar or maybe it is the same thing at this point?
Are your comorbid symptoms all tms
Is there any way to connect with Belle?
I think she said she would check on her once in a while to chime in
Powerful! Thank you Jim and Belle ❤really needed to hear this today. Both of you bless the world by sharing this. So happy for you Belle 💫🌈Peggy
What an incredible story. I really relate. Is there a way to find belle and see her professionally?
Hey Claire, Belles website is in the description box now. x
Really encouraging
Great testimony x
Well done Belle, so impressive !
How long did the dpr last for can I ask.? Ive had it for a few years now, but its not a huge problem 😊
Wow!! Such a great success story. I am really struggling with this. I think I have had TMS symptoms since I was a child. I have suffered with anorexia, depression, health anxiety and now chronic widespread pain and panic disorder. I have been in therapy all my life and nothing really helped. I can relate to her story a lot. I can't afford any TMS coach. I did do the curable group boot camp last year but I still am stuck. The fear is so bad.
You can do this you just have to get over your fear one day at a time. Remember it’s just anxiety there’s no danger in any of these symptoms. If you’re interested in my groups you get a lot of support over the month for the cost of one session
@@thepainpt what is the cost of the groups?
Awesome
Any Tmj/ facial pain people here? Would love to know how to move forward with TMS.
How do I get in contact with Belle ?😊
Her website is in the video's description. x
You had mast cell activation. Very common with the jab and the disease. Brain starts to over react as well as mast cells. I am going through this now. Just starting my brain retraining
Can you send a link for the Dare book? Thx
18:15 did she say "Dare Book"?
Yes DARE
Is TMS related to/the same as somatic symptom disorder?
Same
How did you dealt with the PEM when you were resuming activities? I am able to do the more however I struggle with the PEM. What to do about that?
That’s half the battle as they say. In fact, I think it’s the most important is how you handle that. Very simply are you acting and behaving and believing that it is something sinister
Thanks for the answer. For 99% I do believe it is TMS/the brain. I have lots of proof it is. However I don’t know what to do during a set back. Keep pushing and try to do things or wait till it is over. I am in my worst set back since my recovery. Extremely tired brainfog and dizziness. Makes it hard to go outside and take care of my daughter. I booked a holiday in september so I Really hope I am back on my feet again by then
Is it a must to lay in a dark room
I know the terms but can you please explain extinction burst. I don’t trust looking stuff up on the internet anymore because of too many scammers
Just means when you get a burst of symptoms when you think you’re just getting better or having a reprieve. It comes from the brain.
We suffer with alexthimia bas we don't no anxiety is causing.the symptoms
Yes, alexithymia is one of the components of a mindbody disorder for some people
@@thepainpt well I have found out I have àspergers so this explains the elexthimia
What exactly do you mean that your main approach was your mindset?
Im house bound..i cant think clearly im struggling to take care of my kids im also feeling restless.
Pain symptoms?
That certainly sounds like anxiety is crippling you can get over this. Right now the first thing I would do is take steps to move forward and not listen to the anxiety. Otherwise you’ll be controlled by it and it only gets worse.
Belle are you to be found somewhere on the internet?
Her website is in the video's description box. x
Congratulations ❤so inspiring ty me too i want to be in a succes story i am on my way... 🚶♀️I never ever give up 😁enjoy your life sweetheart ❤️😘💪🦸♀️
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So you're saying POTS is a manifestation of anxiety???
Unbelief is the only problem anyone Ever had,Granted 🙏😇in the beginning was the word and the word was God and God is love... love Was manifested in the flesh and dwelt among us"Jesus"when they crucified him before he ascended he decended and took the keys to death and Hell and on the 3rd day he arose again and said here's the keys to death and Hell , love God and Love your fellow man on these 2 hang All The laws and prophets.. the 10 commandments,if you do these you won't break 1...but since you are not perfect here's My gift to you before I ascend to the Father.. IAM with you and in you All even until the end of the world... now I go to sit down at the right hand of the Father and IAM in you,where do you sit¿?at the right hand of the Father! All power in heaven and earth (Love)Was given to me and IAM in you!!!who has All power in Heaven and Earth¿?you... He was God manifest in the flesh!!Who Are you¿?God manifest in the flesh!!! God is Love and in us all...😇🙏💯
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