How emotions & anxiety lead to chronic symptoms: interview with Jim Prussack, MPT
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- In this interview with Jim Prussack, MPT, MMT ( @Healing Chronic Pain- The Pain PT ), we explore the connection between emotions and symptoms, how anxiety plays into all of this and Jim shares his experience and perspective specifically on chronic dizziness symptoms.
Learn more about Jim's approach on his RUclips channel, / @thepainpt the Pain PT, and on his website, www.thepainpt.com/
More about me and my work: thesteadycoach.com
Free Healing Chronic Dizziness course: thesteadycoach.com/free-course
00:00 Intro
03:30 Jim explains how he transitioned from a biomedical perspective to a mindbody approach
07:51 The types of diagnoses Jim works with and why symptom-based diagnoses are "just words"!
10:21 What modern medicine gets completely wrong & the most important question doctors don't ask
12:35 Emotional injuries and stress injuries are as important as physical injuries
14:00 Why do some people's symptoms become chronic?
16:11 Anxiety is often a reaction to life events
17:18 The anxiety that leads to symptoms does not always make people feel classically anxious
18:45 Are you conflict avoidant? (why jerks don't get chronic dizziness)
21:20 Chronic physical symptoms are usually emotion symptoms
23:22 Pain and other symptoms are REAL even when they have a nervous system origin
24:30 Just because you have chronic symptoms doesn't mean you have a mental health issue or are a nervous/neurotic person
26:17 Releasing emotions is important!
28:20 Jim's experience with clients with chronic dizziness and why he takes a mindbody approach to people with chronic dizziness diagnoses
31:51 Jim's belief that the way the symptoms manifest tells you about the feelings underneath them
33:00 "Danger mode" or fight/flight can affect any system in the body- example of long COVID patient
35:17 Why you might not feel anxious or emotional and still be affected by danger mode
36:16 Do people with chronic dizziness recover?
36:52 Personality traits that can also create "danger mode" and lead to symptoms
38:04 Emotions and their effects on the body are NORMAL
39:35 Why Jim likes working with the body when someone has chronic symptoms DISCLAIMER: Please note that Yonit Arthur, The Steady Coach and any of our other guests are not acting as an audiologist nor offering audiology or medical services services or advice on any public videos or on any other content. This channel provides wellness education and personal opinion only, and are not meant to be a substitute for medical or mental health instruction or intervention. Use any tools discussed at your own risk. 
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people that never experienced dizziness, anxiety always tell me to stop thinking about the past, they don’t understand sometimes I don’t but something triggers me and I don’t know what, and then there’s times that I’ll dream about my past, or and bad and i’ll start thinking about my dream and it makes me anxious
This was a great interview. I honestly believe that mainstream docs don’t want to go into mind/body because they don’t keep patients coming back and will make less money.
Cure=no more money.
I was a patient of Dr sarno's for 25 yrs. He helped me Alot but clearly bc I'd call him every couple of months w new symptoms, something wasn't clicking for me. I actually went to a therapist he referred to me for 9 yrs. Her speciality started w patients w vertigo (that was not one of my symptoms) she too helped but not till I found Nicole Sachs, dan buglio did ALL the pieces of puzzle finally click. I am so grateful for all you healers who help us help ourselves. Thank you both!
Wow, Karen, what an incredible story you have! It must be so interesting for you to witness the way that we 2nd and 3rd generation practitioners have evolved Dr. Sarno's work over time. I am so glad that things clicked for you even after suffering for so long. I hope many other people read your comment!
Can you tell what you did with Nicole & Dan that finally made the difference.
@robinelliott5561 there were several things. The way Nicole shared Dr sarno's message was different than all those years I was a patient of Dr sarno's. For first time I felt a sense of community, for first time I knew migraines were part of this, for first time I didn't freak out. I learned to self soothe. Then when the first time me telling headache to scram & it worked, I had evidence. This evidence built on itself . Then I was able to believe more. And that enabled me to practice "indifference." I also knew the pain was a learned response. It was a combo of all this
Excellent interview. It’s exciting to see these life changing concepts being shared by more and more people like yourself, Jim and Dan among others. I’m convinced it will ultimately change how the world looks at Western Medicine and Healthcare in the not too distant future. Keep up the great work!
I am definitely aware that anger is underneath my multiple TMS symptoms. Lately it’s symptom imperative and connection to older areas on the body that were previously affected.
A wonderful interview, thank you! So much that resonates. And yes, I could listen to Jim’s calm voice for hours.
Yes!! So glad you enjoyed it, Leah! I’ll be going on his channel in November!
Yep me to
Jim Prussack is my hero 🤩
He has such a calm and clear way of communicating!
We aren’t taught that All our feelings are OK to feel. We freak out when we don’t feel good All the time. So we have to teach ourselves that All feelings are OK. So just feel all your emotions and Don’t freak out. All feelings Are Normal! The body will follow your lead and quiet down.
Love Jim!!! he has been so helpful to me on my long covid journey.
This is the dream team. Jim Prussack is amazing. You are amazing. Both of you have very clear explanations on your videos and calming voices that are easy to listen to. I can’t wait to listen to you both together.
Thank you, Talia! I'll be on Jim's channel next month as well!
Back to coffee. Woke up 2 x during the night. With a headache. Had stopped the day before( friday)
I have been suggesting this same exact type of work to many of the people in the Facebook groups that I have joined for different diagnosis and I can not even tell you the amount of times I have been banned out of these groups for the reason of spreading “Bogus Science” it’s so sad.
I hear you, Sergio. It puzzles me, because not only is the research on chronic pain really starting to show that these methods work, people like Jim and I are basically advocating for people being able to help themselves with free and low cost tools. Neither of us sell expensive "programs" with magical cures! Unfortunately I think that's part of the story- you can't sell a pill that does this.
Jim is amazing and been very helpful to my recovery
So grateful for this video. ❤
I am so glad this resonated with you, Lisa! ❤
I do believe in whst the doctor is saying.
Love this
Enlightening and wonderful conversation. Thank you both!
You're very welcome, Anna!
LOVE Jims way of explaining this important topic!! Hopefully one day this will be the normal way to treat pain and other symptoms with no structural damage👏💪
Yes!
This is by far the best video interview you have done! He was so reassuring and made so much sense! Saving it
Thank you Jenny! I am so glad that you liked it!
Makes so much sense 😮thank u both 😢I also feel people who are over sensitive to feelings like myself
You're very welcome, Gina!
I can't believe your interviewing Jim. He's great and I love listening to his calm voice when talking.. Ive always thought you guys were all on the same page.😊
Yes!! I know you love him too!
This is me to a tee! What a wonderful talk and thank you so much for giving me hope that I will recover 😊 I am a healthy person and fell over after getting off cruise ship 8 weeks ago😮 For couldn't walk without poles for weeks and by a fluck found a Vestibular Rehab PT. He was was treating my recovery from a fractured elbow. Wow, that was great. Well, thank you again for talking about this so I don't think k I'm going crazy 😊
You're very welcome, Suzanne! I am so glad this resonated with you! You are not alone!
Great interview :) I felt like it was tailored to me!
Yes!!! Jim has a great way of explaining this connection!
@@TheSteadyCoachhi
Do you have interviews about tinnitus?
Thank you
If you had to make a list of HOW to get out of the symptoms once it is understood as mind/body? What does someone start with? Especially geared towards teens?
Anxiety is to much future in your thoughts and depression is to much past in your thoughts . Try to live and have most of your thoughts in the now , as hard as that is to do it’s the best way out.
This is true! This is why mindfulness meditation can be such a great tool.
I moved last year 2022 my dad passed away im 2018/nov. And retired last year/2022. Could go on.....this sounds so much like me. Its anxiety!!!!! Stress that i have gone thru!!!
That makes sense!
Ask this all the time. People who had injuries even years prior are clumped with people that wake up with symptoms? Are they the same? Still haven’t found one testimonial in TMS accross the board with someone who had an injury and years later TMS.
Jim P. and Dan B., two of the best! Appreciate all who have advocated regarding "TMS". 🙏🏼🤍
This describes me very well. I have not been diagnosed with chronic dizziness yet. But I had a major panic attack back in July after my mom passed away suddenly and i found her and had to start cpr. I had anxiety that something was wrong with my heart. All tests showed it was normal. During all of this my body felt like it was rocking to my heart rate. Have no room spinning sensation. I have great balance. Just this rocking sensation. More when I am still I can feel it. I am seeing a trauma counselor, doing meditation, deep breathing, some exercise, spending time outside, going to work al doing all things I used to. Especially traveling. But this sensation remains as well as other physical symptoms from anxiety/trauma. Had my eyes checked and all was normal. I did not look into telling my doctor about it because I felt that it was from the trauma/anxiety/fear. I am ready to feel normal again!!
I also had Covid after her passing as well.
Oh Tracy, I am so so so sorry for your loss. I am so glad you found this interview and heard validation that losses like this can absolutely lead to physical symptoms. Physical symptoms from emotions are REAL!
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How are you feeling now? This is similar to what I am experiencing!
@@carolm.6422 I am doing ok. Still having some physical sensations but trying to work through it. Trying to live life and enjoy. Just went on a vacation and did a boat ride to a national park for 2 1/2 hours. Was 70 miles off the coast. That was big!! Facing my fears. How are you? What symptoms do you have?
Thank you for this great interview! Is it really possible to heal from chronic dizziness or vestibular migraine if you are or have always been a highly sensitive anxious person? I’m aware that I’m one of these people and I’m trying to figure out how or if I can fix it? Is it too late or is there hope for a recovery? Thanks Dr. Yo
YES! You have a wonderful gift- feeling emotions deeply- and that gift can be harnessed over time to do things other than make you anxious. My folks who are highly anxious love the book Anxiety Rx by Russell Kennedy- please consider reading or listening to it!
Thank you, is there somebody in montreal that shares your beliefs
Hi Mirella, the ppdassociation.org has a list of pracitioners internationally, you can also check www.painreprocessingtherapy.com/directory-of-practitioners
Burning in head face chest, aching in head, electricity in forearms hands, head feels like it isn’t sitting on my neck properly, sub occipital spasming, sweating profusely … post injury 5 years ago… TMS ?
You know what’s so interesting that’s so related. Last night I was starting to dream I felt myself going and I was having a dream of rubbing my hand across a wood that I just finished staining as if I was trying to see how smooth it was and for some odd reason I “got a splinter”and my brain sent that false pain signal to my brain and I woke up with a splinter pain that felt so real
WOW! Amazing illustration of predictive coding in action!
Do u have a video that basically explains the TMS mind/body issue for someone who has no clue?
@TheSteadyCoach
Do you have any interviews or episodes about tinnitus please?
Here you go! ruclips.net/video/e8TYzIz3sFg/видео.htmlsi=b9NrjcbGqZNhrrcV
@@TheSteadyCoach thank you
Thank you for your videos Dr yo. Would you
please answer this question wich really worried
me. I talked to somebody who had an
appointment with Dr.Beh and he diagnosed that
she had spontaneous Mdds. She said that the Dr
put a vibrating massager on her neck and her
rocking sensation stopped and then rebounded
again. I tested this at home and for me it was the
same. But I've been diagnosed with Pppd. I
wanted to ask you is it something that can
differentiate btw mdds and Pppd ? Should I
worry about that?
If you answer it means a lot to me.
Hi there please see my response to the question you left under the PPPD and MdDS video!
Hi Dr. Yo another quick question: If I have anxiety should I treat that first? I understand the PPPD and I’ve learned to not fear the dizziness but I still have the anxiety not related to dizziness. Is it possible to heal from the pppd while still having an anxiety disorder unrelated to dizziness?
Hi AJ, yes, you can still recover- the key is helping yourself direct your anxiety away from your dizziness so you no longer fear the symptoms and avoid things that make you have them. Ultimately getting to the root of the anxiety is important but it’s not necessarily a prerequisite to recover from the physical symptoms
Thank you for your great interview.
I’ve been diagnosed with Pppd 5 months ago and I’m taking SNRI for 2 months . Some of my symptoms like my visual problems have gone away. But I have the feeling of walking on the boat and it’s scary. It hasn’t changed at all. What do you suggest for that?
Hi Rose, my channel is devoted to this question and my perspective is that emotional work is what’s necessary to fully recover. Please consider looking at some of the other videos on my channel, especially this one ruclips.net/video/JjkLWytDlos/видео.html and if you connect to it, consider taking the free course at thesteadycoach.com/free-course
Hi Dr Yo
Ioved this and got a lot out of it, thank you.
I tick all the boxes: existing health anxiety disorder, trauma, stressful life event, etc. Vestibular testing was clear.
What do you suggest if there are things that "might" be causing your diziness, such as medications where diziness is a possible side effect, but Doctors aren't sure if there is a casual relationship in your situation?
My diziness started two weeks after a stressful move interstate and trying to stop my SSRI after long term use at the same time. I've been back on it for months but it hasn't stopped the dizziness. I am also on another medication (aldactone) that commonly causes diziness but never has before for me. I stopped it for a couple of months and the dizziness didn't stop, so I'm back on it.
I had about six weeks symtoms free through doing your program but I've been struggling again lately.
I can't let these two possibilities go and keep ruminating that they are the real cause and I am still in some kind of withdrawal syndrome from the SSRIs and can't recover. My Dr thinks this is highly unlikely but can't stake her life on it so to speak.
I feel this is the one thing holding me back from recovery as I get dragged back into trying to "solve my diziness".
Do you have any advice in this situation? Thanks again for all your work.
Same with me my all other symptoms gone after taking antidepressant but dizzines remains from last 3 years
Somatic symptom disorder and fnd is all the same
Agreed!
Does this video also apply to bouncing floor sensation while walking?
Yes! ruclips.net/video/FqT6ZFhqE0I/видео.html
I am taking sertraline would like to get off it. Is st. Johns worth....good as a replacement
Unfortunately I cannot give you good advice about that. My clients have been able to taper once they're feeling better.
So my MRI showed I had a small venous angioma could this be causing my dizzines/ unsteady feeling? Could there be any correlation?
Hi Natali, most of these types of findings are incidental and do not cause symptoms, but this is something to ask your doctor.
@@TheSteadyCoach Thank you so much! I also wanted to know if you would recommend seeing a upper cervical chiropractor? I have seen a couple of videos that claim to help people with vestibular issues, specifically with swaying sensations?? Im really desperate and Im willing to try anything but I don’t want to do anything that will harm me at the same time. 😭
I have chronic pain 9 years suffered a lifetime of effects of child abuse the emotional hurt is unbearable and the physical the same cant lift stuff or nerve pain worsens im in therapy processing my pain yet pain is worsening don't know what else to do
Hang in there. Don't stop. You're doing the right things. The pain will increase when the emotions start to come up. Tell your brain firmly, "NO. I don't need the pain to stop the emotions. I am handling the emotions now. Stop the pain now."
So what the emotion of fear? The example he said, migraine is angry. But I feel fear and don’t know what it is..
Please consider taking the course, I talk a lot about this thesteadycoach.com/free-course
I have health anxiety and I’m going through a very scary, often debilitating benzodiazapine withdrawal (prescribed for sleep, not anxiety). I know hundreds of thousands of people are suffering badly trying to taper off prescribed benzodiazapines and often take years to taper off and even then, they have terrible symptoms years after tapering. But there are also people who taper off with no problem. Can these difficult, lengthy protracted benzo withdrawals possibly be TMS/MindBody? Or would benzodiazapine tapering itself cause the terrifying and often debilitating withdrawal symptoms?
That is a fantastic question, Robin. Yes, in my opinion there is a TMS contributor to benzo withdrawal.
Do you think it would be worth it for me to talk to Jim Prussack? Or another kind of MindBody practitioner or coach? @@TheSteadyCoach
What about anxiety created by an actual diagnosis? Same approach?
Yes, I think this approach is useful regardless of whether there is a diagnosis or not.
How do we find help Ike Dr Jim to help?
Dr. Jim's information can be found in the details of the video
It's becomes chronic especially if we are more obsession OCD
Very true, though I do have a minority of clients who are not particularly anxious- for them, the drivers are emotional.
@@TheSteadyCoach I've got emotions to though fear of symptoms for me
Would POTS be a MindBody thing???
Yes, in my opinion (and those of my colleagues), it is
Could you bring a healing story of someone with cervical spondilosis, arthritis who experienced a variety of symptoms (vertigo, pain, IBM) and recovered? I cannot find real stories of people who have some physical signs, problems, but a lot of anxiety built on that (because of diffeeent treatments and medical diagnosis), that could heal... It is my case and I cannot find a specialist like you in my surroundings... such a succes story would encourage me and lessen my doubts
Hi Marla, I hear you- just so you know, almost everyone I work with has some "abnormal" finding that does not explain symptoms. Daniel's interview is a great example. But Dan @painfreeyou has a TON of stories like what you're looking for.
So are we supposed to go into the emotion? I’m someone that has been doing that a lot over the years but my physical symptoms have gotten worse.
Isn’t the emotion the symptom and wouldn’t we want to redirect that to build a new Neuro pathway?
To me it feels like certain heavy emotions are connected to a core wound and I’m reliving or recycling the emotion over and over again anytime it gets triggered by someone or something and it’s not leading me anywhere better. How is that good for my brain? Why continuously entertain that emotion?
Ah, this is such a beautiful and nuanced question with a nuanced answer. Ultimately no, in my opinion, the emotion is not the symptom. You are right, there is ZERO value in just rehashing trauma patterns and trying to feel as many emotions as possible. The value in revisiting emotions is in breaking trauma patterns for good, aka memory reconsolidation (there is a lot of research on this now, and therapeutic modalities like IFS, AEDP, conference therapy, EMDR and others leverage it). This is accomplished by activating emotions, beliefs and thoughts that are parts of trauma patterns but then experiencing them in a new way, not endlessly activating them, and not redirecting away from them. I’ll have more content about memory reconsolidation soon.
Sounds like vestibular migraine. Definitely mindbody especially with tingling before dizzy started. Dizzy without structural is migraine. Alas…stress talking
Migraine is a catch all term used to describe so many neural circuit issues!
But how do I get out of my hell of anxiety????
It's ruined my whole life
Ann - has your doctor suggested any meds ? I take a .25 Alprazolam and it works well for me - others I know take Paxil or Ativan - they are not meds to be treated lightly, but when anxiety is having devastating effects on you, you have to balance the risks/rewards, I think
Hi Ann, I get it, the anxiety is awful. Like Jim and I talked about, anxiety comes from feelings. When we are able to feel the feelings, the anxiety comes down. I would highly highly recommend you read Unlearn Your Anxiety by Dr Howard Schubiner or Anxiety RX by Dr Russell Kennedy. Both explain in detail how to do this.
@@Melody-285 I can't take medication
@@annaberg1200 Oh, wow, that’s too bad - I’ve never heard of that before - Blessings & prayers to you
I can't take meds either for anxiety and depression - I seem to get all the side effects. I second reading Howard Schubiner - he's amazing and I just adore him! I also suggest finding Dr Clare Weekes' material and Sarah Blondin (Insight Timer, Live Awake podcast). They both helped me massively and I am doing so much better.