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Ryder’s Centurion had JUMPJETS! And No One ever talks about that! 😂 It’s never addressed as unusual in the show but as far as I know there weren’t any jump capable Centurions so it MUST be a Custom Job 😮
An Enforcer disguised as a Centurion? Then again, remember it is a TV show, and the director had NO IDEA how battlemech actually worked. See that one time a Summoner destroyed a whole lance in a single volley.
@@WolfHredathere’s the D9, but honestly, I’m going to guess that it was some variant of the CN9-AL that strips 2 tons of heatsinks from the 16 it had. Guessing this, because I don’t remember him using the autocannon.
There is a version of the centurion with Jumpjets it's the CN9-J and all mechs can equip expendable jump gets for hot drops, also most of em them are easy to mods take the arm off and essentially change weapons or engine and design is by chasis
Here it is. My favourite mech. The asymmetrical design is awesome. I love the version with the light engine and the LB-20X. Long range and short range firepower!
Was a favorite mech of mine when I first got into the setting (along with the Marauder II and Nightstar) however over time I've found better alternatives as well as just growing out of liking it. That doesn't stop me from using it though
I always liked the Bushy. Way back in the day I was on a MechWarrior 4 team in a league where we were mercs. Maybe a 1/4 of our mechs were Bushwackers. 55 tons fit into the varying drop weights, it was a little harder to hit at range from front on than most other mechs in MW4, and it seemed to take a bigger beating than other 50 to 60 tons mechs for some reason. Plus it was low to the ground, allowing better use of cover.
I remember the cartoon... loved it as a kid and i used to have the Axeman, Thor and Bushwacker as toys. The Bushwacker one had spring launched missiles in the arm and ones you could flick over the shoulder. I remember first using it in Mechwarrior 3; it's not a favorite of mine but I do like it; good punch for the weight and it has this kinda wonky, kinda cool look to it.
I designed one of these in MWO and I've been loving it. Kept the default XL engine, endo and light Ferro refit. Max armor, LB10 in the right arm, Large Laser in the CT, two MRM10s in the left arm. It's a solid, mobile mid-range fighter that's SUPER heat efficient - 10 doubles works fine like 99% of the time, has enough Ammo for a standard engagement, and even without resupply it's got a solid Large Laser in the CT and still moves 81 kph so it can contribute to long term fights still.
Also, it works great on tabletop! You can swap out the MRM10s for a pair of SRM6, but unless you downgrade them to 4s then it'll eat through that one ton of Ammo faster vs the MRMs that will last you all match.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn alright. I chose MRMs because the range pairs well with the other weapons, lets it hang back and slap people from a decent range. I was leaning towards SRMs, but with the XL - even with the narrow side torsos - I find the MRMs let me stay at a safer range. I considered an LRM15, but I'd have to gimp armor or LB Ammo for that.
I remember playing the X1 version of the Bushwacker in MW3, a fairly simple design but still fun to play. The latest one has to be one of the best upgrades for the ilClan TechReadouts that doesn't use Clan tech, giving it a flexible and fast moving machine. With the CASE II to protect the engine from the MML ammo. Slight changes to the armor from the original as well with a few points taken from the torso and legs, but giving about a 63% protection increase to the arms. As a comparison to designs like the Enforcer, I guess that depends more on if you want speed and flexible firepower vs jumping and endurance (both on the field and how easy it is to repair). I have to say I am surprised at the lack of variants for the Enforcer, even the Enforcer III has more variety.
The Enforcer having been produced in larger amounts over the years makes it easier to acquire and maintain. As line troopers, you really have to wonder if you want jump jets or not, and I tend to believe they give more flexibility to the design.
I drove a 3 AC2, 4 SRM 2 Bushwacker a long time ago in MWO and it was a monster. I know its not battletech but is the gamified fps version, but it was still great fun to run!
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn I understand, which is why I qualified my comment :) But I really like that most of the variants are 1 or 2 hole punchers with backup scatter weapons, and pairing an xl is generally with a mix of mid to long range weaponry...
The bushwacker is better off being a missile boat rather than the all range builds the production models and even the experimental models came up with. The X2 had a good idea going but depending on LRM 5s is a big mistake. I would of went with lrm 10, lrm 15 and 2 medium lasers. The bushwacker could fire in the woods or some kinda cover, fire all of it's missiles and dip out until it runs out of ammo. Easy to train on, you just need the missile systems in stock incase of irreparable damage.
...Wasn't a huge fan of this Mech until I tried a weapon refit: dropping the AC/10 & ammo, for a Large Pulse Laser, & upgraded the LRM-5 racks to -10 racks. While an Alpha Strike could lead to Heat issues, it performed better overall.
It was originally a supply issue, with most LB-X going to Centurions, Enforcers and Orions. Field refits generally switched them as soon as they became available, adding ammo. Ferro-fibrous is easy to install and manufacture, as opposed to endo-steel. That portion I willl always keep adamant about.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEnadditionally, endosteel components tend to be tonnage specific. I remember when I got myself a wrecked black knight from a duel with a megalomanic pirate of some sort that just popped open a Brian cache. It took me 8 DAMNED months to find a leg, nevermind the lobbying and bribery at customs I had to do to get it to mechbay. And this thing had several limbs missing!
@baker90338 to be fair we do see bushwackers with Endosteel later and on and intially it's a new design so it's spare parts would be unique at least somewhat anyways
@@spencerjones841 the issue is, however, that there is a difference in the requirements to tool up for endosteel production. this bottlenecks production to an extent, and at the time of the clan invasion, that is a significant issue for a new mech.
I don't like the Bushwacker. I had bad experiences with it thanks to various videogames, mainly Mechcommander 2 and Mechwarrior 4. In MC4 its just a mediocre unit. Like many Inner Sphere mechs in that game its has limited weapon customization options. In that game the only ballistic weapons I would ever want to use are Gauss weapons. Only the Bushwacker could not carry that much weight. On a medium mech I wanted/needed Energy Weapons. So I vastly preferred the Uziel as a faster, jump capable unit that could carry a lot more energy weapons. In MC2 its an okay starting unit, but in that game Jump Jets are incredibly valuable and the Bushwacker has no option for them. I vastly preferred lighter, faster, jump-mechs like the Razorback light mech. In terms of economics the Bushwacker is quite expensive and mediocre for its cost. Because it uses an Extralight Engine it costs about about 3 times as much as a Centurion medium mech, and as much as an Atlas assault mech. Aesthetically its ugly because of its mismatched shoulders. Structurally its weak with low armor in those arms where it carries a big chunk of its firepower. It's battlefield longevity is poor as it carries little ammunition. The thing is the Bushwacker could have been rather easily fixed. Replace the Autocannon-10 with something else, and use a standard fusion engine.
This is a great explanation for how you feel about the Bushwacker, and I mostly agree with it. The only thing I disagree with is the aesthetics part, as I do like the "helicopter with legs" look they were going for with the design.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn That wasnt my issue. It was specifically the mismatched shoulders. It looks like a frankenmech. One of the shoulders is a horizontal joint like from a house door. Many mechs look like aircraft on legs. The Catapult, Timber Wolf, Black Lanner, Battlemaster, etc.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn deserved! it´s so purpose built and comparatively solid that it would work in mwo as well :) s2r is also nice though, plasma war crimes are always fun+infernos for the srm4 B)
There is poll up on the channel for what we want to talk about next week, with the Archer, Orion, Gargoyle (Man o'War) and Mercury. I already have a presentation on the Sentinel lined up, and one on the Cossack/Helios lined up as well (half way done) for next week already.
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Like buying a DeLorean then realizing you bought a DeLorean
That is... A sad but true statement.
Ryder’s Centurion had JUMPJETS! And No One ever talks about that! 😂 It’s never addressed as unusual in the show but as far as I know there weren’t any jump capable Centurions so it MUST be a Custom Job 😮
An Enforcer disguised as a Centurion? Then again, remember it is a TV show, and the director had NO IDEA how battlemech actually worked.
See that one time a Summoner destroyed a whole lance in a single volley.
To this day, there are still no Centurion variants that mount jump jets that I'm aware of.
@@WolfHredathere’s the D9, but honestly, I’m going to guess that it was some variant of the CN9-AL that strips 2 tons of heatsinks from the 16 it had. Guessing this, because I don’t remember him using the autocannon.
There is a version of the centurion with Jumpjets it's the CN9-J and all mechs can equip expendable jump gets for hot drops, also most of em them are easy to mods take the arm off and essentially change weapons or engine and design is by chasis
@@Wayofswords it's the CN10-J, actually. There's also the CN11-OD and -OC, but those two are OmniMechs, so their particular loadout isn't important.
Here it is. My favourite mech. The asymmetrical design is awesome. I love the version with the light engine and the LB-20X. Long range and short range firepower!
Was a favorite mech of mine when I first got into the setting (along with the Marauder II and Nightstar) however over time I've found better alternatives as well as just growing out of liking it. That doesn't stop me from using it though
I don't go out of my way to NOT use it, to be sure, but it's not in my priority auto-include.
One of the best medium 'mechs since the Wolverine or Vindicator.
It has a different battlefield role than the Wolverine, but I understand the feeling.
Mistakes were made, but at least they served cake at the unveiling.
Tea, cake and crumpets, I am sure.
Man...Adam got a whole Gig! In an era where the Sphere was stumbling along on scraps!
Adam Steiner did some great work as Archon, surprisingly.
I always liked the Bushy. Way back in the day I was on a MechWarrior 4 team in a league where we were mercs. Maybe a 1/4 of our mechs were Bushwackers. 55 tons fit into the varying drop weights, it was a little harder to hit at range from front on than most other mechs in MW4, and it seemed to take a bigger beating than other 50 to 60 tons mechs for some reason. Plus it was low to the ground, allowing better use of cover.
It's a 'mech that can punch above its weight class most of the time, and it's low to the ground and narrow profile does make it more survivable.
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Thank you!
I remember the cartoon... loved it as a kid and i used to have the Axeman, Thor and Bushwacker as toys. The Bushwacker one had spring launched missiles in the arm and ones you could flick over the shoulder.
I remember first using it in Mechwarrior 3; it's not a favorite of mine but I do like it; good punch for the weight and it has this kinda wonky, kinda cool look to it.
It is a fairly cool looking machine for sure.
15:01 of course the Barghest is massively undersunk.
I need to spend more time looking at the Barghest as well.
I love the darn thing. Just the way it looks.
A lot of people really like the design of the Bushwacker, while some people REALLY seem to hate it. Nobody in the middle.
I designed one of these in MWO and I've been loving it. Kept the default XL engine, endo and light Ferro refit. Max armor, LB10 in the right arm, Large Laser in the CT, two MRM10s in the left arm. It's a solid, mobile mid-range fighter that's SUPER heat efficient - 10 doubles works fine like 99% of the time, has enough Ammo for a standard engagement, and even without resupply it's got a solid Large Laser in the CT and still moves 81 kph so it can contribute to long term fights still.
Also, it works great on tabletop! You can swap out the MRM10s for a pair of SRM6, but unless you downgrade them to 4s then it'll eat through that one ton of Ammo faster vs the MRMs that will last you all match.
I generally prefer SRMs to MRMs, if you are worrying about ammo capacity, go with 2 SSRM4
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn alright. I chose MRMs because the range pairs well with the other weapons, lets it hang back and slap people from a decent range. I was leaning towards SRMs, but with the XL - even with the narrow side torsos - I find the MRMs let me stay at a safer range. I considered an LRM15, but I'd have to gimp armor or LB Ammo for that.
I remember playing the X1 version of the Bushwacker in MW3, a fairly simple design but still fun to play.
The latest one has to be one of the best upgrades for the ilClan TechReadouts that doesn't use Clan tech, giving it a flexible and fast moving machine. With the CASE II to protect the engine from the MML ammo. Slight changes to the armor from the original as well with a few points taken from the torso and legs, but giving about a 63% protection increase to the arms.
As a comparison to designs like the Enforcer, I guess that depends more on if you want speed and flexible firepower vs jumping and endurance (both on the field and how easy it is to repair). I have to say I am surprised at the lack of variants for the Enforcer, even the Enforcer III has more variety.
The Enforcer having been produced in larger amounts over the years makes it easier to acquire and maintain. As line troopers, you really have to wonder if you want jump jets or not, and I tend to believe they give more flexibility to the design.
I drove a 3 AC2, 4 SRM 2 Bushwacker a long time ago in MWO and it was a monster. I know its not battletech but is the gamified fps version, but it was still great fun to run!
@@jiiaga5017 AC/2 are awful in the actual game, Mechwarrior did a lot of damage to people by making them think they are any good...
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn I understand, which is why I qualified my comment :) But I really like that most of the variants are 1 or 2 hole punchers with backup scatter weapons, and pairing an xl is generally with a mix of mid to long range weaponry...
An honorary member of the 275 mafia if I ever saw one.
Hermes does make an okay engine, but it's no CoreTek!
Bushwhacker's my boy !!!
The bushwacker is better off being a missile boat rather than the all range builds the production models and even the experimental models came up with. The X2 had a good idea going but depending on LRM 5s is a big mistake. I would of went with lrm 10, lrm 15 and 2 medium lasers. The bushwacker could fire in the woods or some kinda cover, fire all of it's missiles and dip out until it runs out of ammo. Easy to train on, you just need the missile systems in stock incase of irreparable damage.
...Wasn't a huge fan of this Mech until I tried a weapon refit: dropping the AC/10 & ammo, for a Large Pulse Laser, & upgraded the LRM-5 racks to -10 racks. While an Alpha Strike could lead to Heat issues, it performed better overall.
It’s Crazy this was one of my favz back in the day on MW but I have Yet to play it on MWO…. Time to Fix that!!🎉🎉
Shouldn't be too hard to get a standard model or two!
Been one of my favorites for years & years (MW3?).
It really shone in that period of time with the games that were coming out.
For a mech packing such a expensive engine using a AC-10 and not a LBX-10 is weird. As is using ferro fiberous and not Endosteel
It was originally a supply issue, with most LB-X going to Centurions, Enforcers and Orions.
Field refits generally switched them as soon as they became available, adding ammo. Ferro-fibrous is easy to install and manufacture, as opposed to endo-steel. That portion I willl always keep adamant about.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEnadditionally, endosteel components tend to be tonnage specific. I remember when I got myself a wrecked black knight from a duel with a megalomanic pirate of some sort that just popped open a Brian cache. It took me 8 DAMNED months to find a leg, nevermind the lobbying and bribery at customs I had to do to get it to mechbay. And this thing had several limbs missing!
@baker90338 to be fair we do see bushwackers with Endosteel later and on and intially it's a new design so it's spare parts would be unique at least somewhat anyways
@@spencerjones841 the issue is, however, that there is a difference in the requirements to tool up for endosteel production. this bottlenecks production to an extent, and at the time of the clan invasion, that is a significant issue for a new mech.
I don't like the Bushwacker. I had bad experiences with it thanks to various videogames, mainly Mechcommander 2 and Mechwarrior 4.
In MC4 its just a mediocre unit. Like many Inner Sphere mechs in that game its has limited weapon customization options. In that game the only ballistic weapons I would ever want to use are Gauss weapons. Only the Bushwacker could not carry that much weight. On a medium mech I wanted/needed Energy Weapons. So I vastly preferred the Uziel as a faster, jump capable unit that could carry a lot more energy weapons.
In MC2 its an okay starting unit, but in that game Jump Jets are incredibly valuable and the Bushwacker has no option for them. I vastly preferred lighter, faster, jump-mechs like the Razorback light mech.
In terms of economics the Bushwacker is quite expensive and mediocre for its cost. Because it uses an Extralight Engine it costs about about 3 times as much as a Centurion medium mech, and as much as an Atlas assault mech.
Aesthetically its ugly because of its mismatched shoulders.
Structurally its weak with low armor in those arms where it carries a big chunk of its firepower.
It's battlefield longevity is poor as it carries little ammunition.
The thing is the Bushwacker could have been rather easily fixed. Replace the Autocannon-10 with something else, and use a standard fusion engine.
This is a great explanation for how you feel about the Bushwacker, and I mostly agree with it.
The only thing I disagree with is the aesthetics part, as I do like the "helicopter with legs" look they were going for with the design.
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn That wasnt my issue. It was specifically the mismatched shoulders. It looks like a frankenmech. One of the shoulders is a horizontal joint like from a house door.
Many mechs look like aircraft on legs. The Catapult, Timber Wolf, Black Lanner, Battlemaster, etc.
L1!
People do seem to enjoy the L1 quite a bit!
@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn deserved! it´s so purpose built and comparatively solid that it would work in mwo as well :)
s2r is also nice though, plasma war crimes are always fun+infernos for the srm4 B)