Is Lyney the New Best Charged Shot User?

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
  • Lyney is rounding out are now trio of primarily charged shot bow users with a kit that encourages use of all 3 talents for a change.
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  • @Ray-ii2kv
    @Ray-ii2kv 9 месяцев назад +793

    "You get a massive shield with Zhongli" *shows a clip where Zhongli's shield immediately gets broken* peak Genshin gameplay

    • @purpled2992
      @purpled2992 9 месяцев назад +9

      probably 20k hp zhongli

    • @slytheninja
      @slytheninja 9 месяцев назад +37

      ​@@purpled2992shows 38k hp, plus he's in a Bennet ult so it applied Pyro while he got hit by an electro hilichurl so it shredded it

    • @purpled2992
      @purpled2992 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@slytheninja still 38k isn't enough for zhongli shield build and skill level matters as well, so yeah that shield is unreliable

    • @slytheninja
      @slytheninja 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@purpled2992 wasn't saying it wasn't, but he got overloaded so it makes some sense why it got shredded that fast

    • @tekkefen1621
      @tekkefen1621 9 месяцев назад

      @@purpled2992 are you ok??? zhongli is god of immortality. i got him when i was a noob because of that i cant play without him he makes game easy mode. u need to a dumb person to say that

  • @cjwat1118
    @cjwat1118 9 месяцев назад +1482

    One of the biggest problems is how Lyney doesn't really have access to a good Pyro shield

    • @gss0097
      @gss0097 9 месяцев назад +377

      Tankfie?
      Well you don't really need a pyro shield. Talent said 2 pyro units is enough to get to max. You can just zhongli if you have him.

    • @nab9906
      @nab9906 9 месяцев назад +101

      Xinyan is a good shield i reckon

    • @elitovon2833
      @elitovon2833 9 месяцев назад +87

      Maybe tankfei?

    • @AddictiveSoap
      @AddictiveSoap 9 месяцев назад +286

      Dehya although not a shielder is specifically made for Lyney for interruption resistance and how his HP mechanic works on his kit.

    • @Eldr1tchGl1tch
      @Eldr1tchGl1tch 9 месяцев назад +115

      hp thoma

  • @1Henrink
    @1Henrink 9 месяцев назад +518

    As someone that likes Ganyu gameplay, I don't understand why they didn't make his charged shot faster. It's such a fun thing about Tighnaris kit.

    • @kokocute123
      @kokocute123 9 месяцев назад +69

      Ganyu and Lyney’s charged shot duration is the same as Lyney’s, which is 2 seconds. Gatcha Gamer showed a video comparisson of both bow users side by side

    • @1Henrink
      @1Henrink 9 месяцев назад +40

      @@kokocute123 what I'm saying is that it could have been faster, it wouldn't be broken, but more fun, IMO

    • @risang5850
      @risang5850 9 месяцев назад +71

      but tighnari's had smaller multiplier, i think its balance. faster charge but smaller dmg multiplier and slow charge with higher dmg multiplier.

    • @XerxesBreakSama
      @XerxesBreakSama 9 месяцев назад +3

      yes… imlove tignari. initially, i was annoyed that I got him at a failed 50 50 chance in a banner. lol

    • @nemesis1022
      @nemesis1022 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@risang5850nah I remember it's almost the same- the thing that balances him is that the fast recharge is limited to three under his e skill, every 10 seconds which forces him to be in quickswap teams.

  • @axxianthic
    @axxianthic 9 месяцев назад +549

    lyney has got to be one of the best beginner characters
    you can literally get everything for his best team just by playing the game (ESPECIALLY this patch with the free bennett from the event)

    • @misipapa3626
      @misipapa3626 9 месяцев назад +69

      Best beginner character? My guy, you need to go to Fontaine to lvl him up, so I don't know. Other than that he is cool.

    • @Ren-jv9se
      @Ren-jv9se 9 месяцев назад

      @@misipapa3626walk

    • @starrysky6586
      @starrysky6586 9 месяцев назад

      @@misipapa3626 fontaine is only locked behind mondstadt's archon quest, so as long as you've finished it you can just go straight to fontaine and get his materials, which are also very accessible. fatui is everywhere in teyvat so getting the insignia is very easy as well. and as the other person said, his teammates are accessible and both beginner & F2P friendly.

    • @El9069
      @El9069 9 месяцев назад

      @@misipapa3626yea and he is a beginner bc once you complete mondstadt arc you automatically get a waypoint to fontaine.

    • @tempest7076
      @tempest7076 9 месяцев назад +188

      @@misipapa3626 don't beginners unlock a waypoint near fontaine after clearing mondstant?

  • @novahbomb4311
    @novahbomb4311 9 месяцев назад +404

    For those fortunate, C4 Tankfei is viable shield

    • @Honkaipeakrail
      @Honkaipeakrail 9 месяцев назад +13

      Really not that recommended tho lmao

    • @insxnemxnd3127
      @insxnemxnd3127 9 месяцев назад +29

      @@Honkaipeakrailwhy not

    • @Honkaipeakrail
      @Honkaipeakrail 9 месяцев назад

      @@insxnemxnd3127 high energy cost, and her shield is mid.

    • @brynnn1214
      @brynnn1214 9 месяцев назад +7

      I’m still Yanfei less :(
      Started playing in Nov 2022

    • @novahbomb4311
      @novahbomb4311 9 месяцев назад

      dw about it too much@@brynnn1214

  • @defierofdeath2463
    @defierofdeath2463 9 месяцев назад +389

    Dehya with thie guy has genuinely been really useful. Using her burst on his downtime feels pretty nice too!

    • @jp-dx6829
      @jp-dx6829 9 месяцев назад +68

      It's true actually lmao. Her resistance to interuption and damage midigation are very good for lyney to not die while doing his things

    • @sakaom
      @sakaom 9 месяцев назад +19

      amber's good with him too! maybe im pushing it since im an amber main and i shove her everywhere, but her short field time (bunny + burst takes like 4 seconds) just matches everyone's downtime nicely, it feels like shes actually supposed to be there instead of the usual comps i just shove amber because shes my girl lmao

    • @jp-dx6829
      @jp-dx6829 9 месяцев назад +15

      @@sakaom c6 amber also don't seem that bad, but like, who in the world has c6 amber?

    • @KinDiedYesterday
      @KinDiedYesterday 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@jp-dx6829dedicated person; person that use wish on standard, buy amber from shop monthly reset. And thats the way im aware of

    • @TheCheeseman1983
      @TheCheeseman1983 9 месяцев назад

      @@jp-dx6829I do, and I have her at 90, 9/12/12 talents. Frankly, she’s okay as a support with 4p Noblesse and Elegy, but she’s not really ever the best choice for a team. I do enjoy pulling her out in co-op, though, just to see people’s reactions.

  • @CaptainMeleon
    @CaptainMeleon 9 месяцев назад +301

    i already have ganyu and tighnari built but you bet your ass my bow obsession will make me pull for him

    • @kokocute123
      @kokocute123 9 месяцев назад +15

      Man of culture 🤝

    • @rise-hazbrine2434
      @rise-hazbrine2434 9 месяцев назад +11

      Bro. This literally me today. And i win my lyeney. Lets go

    • @CaptainMeleon
      @CaptainMeleon 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@rise-hazbrine2434 gladly i had guarantee!! also its the first time ive ever pulled on weapon banner purely cause its 2 broken bows

    • @rise-hazbrine2434
      @rise-hazbrine2434 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@CaptainMeleon bro that weapon is purely destructive. Pull for them and u will not regret it.

  • @haku1145
    @haku1145 9 месяцев назад +115

    6:47 It's worth mentioning that, if you decide to use Zhongli with Lyney, then Archaic Petra is incredibly good on him. With 2-3 Pyro characters in the team, you can reliably grab the Pyro shards and get the 35% DMG Bonus for all your Pyro party members.
    This + Zhongli's fat shield and Res shred makes him my favorite supporting option by a landslide.

    • @VictorIbelles
      @VictorIbelles 9 месяцев назад

      I was wondering why didn’t he mention that

    • @peytonsharp6159
      @peytonsharp6159 8 месяцев назад

      PErsonally i prefer the classic xiangling & bennet duo and Kazuha. But that idea sounds really good too.

  • @pinkius
    @pinkius 9 месяцев назад +158

    Dehya's resistance to interruption is an "infinite armor", it's just that it runs out earlier than her skill duration, that's why sometimes you get slapped on.

    • @Gilgamesh-em6ru
      @Gilgamesh-em6ru 9 месяцев назад +2

      you realize what you said contradicts itself. "infinite armor" but it runs out before her skill goes away.

    • @pinkius
      @pinkius 9 месяцев назад +37

      @@Gilgamesh-em6ru idk if it's a joke, but "infinite armor" in this case means "infinite resistance to interruption", which also means that you cannot be interrupted no matter what you do for the duration of it. Infinite in this context is not about time, but about strength of the effect.

    • @stelixhyx808
      @stelixhyx808 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@Gilgamesh-em6ruhe means infinite as in unlike shields, she doesnt have an upper limit in dmg taken intricately tied to poise provided.
      The cd part isnt infinite though yes

    • @vanilla9886
      @vanilla9886 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@pinkiusits infinite poise

    • @youravghuman5231
      @youravghuman5231 9 месяцев назад +1

      No, dehya interruption isn't that great. It only works with light-medium attacks.

  • @yumine_
    @yumine_ 9 месяцев назад +48

    I did his trial and wtf he did 20-30k per charged without benny. Also unique gameplay I'm so here for it!

  • @quantum_btw5403
    @quantum_btw5403 9 месяцев назад +26

    idk but Lyney just feels too powerful for me. I probably only say that because I don't own characters like Raiden, Hu Tao, Ayaka or Ganyu. He's my 1st unit who can stand on his own and do massive damage without support. Currently running him with Kazuha, Xiangling and Bennett and seeing those random 100k s pop up from nowhere just feels very satisfying

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 9 месяцев назад +1

      Mono pyro is stronger than Hu Tao but Hu Tao wins in reaction. He's just a really flexible unit and isn't restricted to JUST mono pyro if you don't want to. You'd do less damage but his self Buffs make up for it anyways as well as his bow if you have it.
      He's just an insanely comfy character that's more versatile compared to someone like Hu Tao who NEEDS Yeland AND xingqiu in a team to function

  • @Senorgato029
    @Senorgato029 9 месяцев назад +34

    I’m probably gonna pull for him, I love his design, I kinda like his personality, and he solves the one issue I have with melt ganyu which is that I want to press my other buttons

  • @caseyimiller
    @caseyimiller 9 месяцев назад +125

    Thanks for the take, especially on the bow comparisons for the three. I also enjoy the CA bow characters because manually attacking is more engaging for me than auto

    • @Ratheil
      @Ratheil  9 месяцев назад +14

      I like that they're all doing different things and not they're not afraid to make more given how many people hate Ganyu's playstyle so much.

  • @DDemiGodd
    @DDemiGodd 9 месяцев назад +82

    You can use Baizhu as your healer/ interruption to resistance giver so your other two pyro units can be more flexible especially when your bennet wants to vacation on another team. You also have the benefit of being able to move around more instead of standing in one spot with a bull's eye on your magic hat.

    • @Chun-believable
      @Chun-believable 9 месяцев назад +19

      And Lyney benefits from hitting targets being effected by Pyro Aura, so wouldn’t burning keep that on them more consistently?

    • @DDemiGodd
      @DDemiGodd 9 месяцев назад +14

      @@Chun-believable Yes that's what I was thinking. It's the surest way of maintaining the pyro aura the entire time

    • @keynyeu
      @keynyeu 9 месяцев назад +8

      I've been thinking of Baizhu as well considering his kits would fit well with mono pyro team. Too bad no Baizhu tho, hopefully he rerun soon

    • @weeb69
      @weeb69 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@shaquillecox5625 except not really because burning consumes aura at a faster rate, so it's really only a potential liability. You'd just use zhongli or dehya
      if you'd want to use ttds on baizhu, well tough luck, you lose out on bennett buff uptime if you do bennett Q(E) xiangling Q E baizhu EQ

    • @sakuraorihime3374
      @sakuraorihime3374 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@weeb69dendro aura melts, pyro stays for a while and keeps going even without more pyro as long as theres more dendro feed into it.
      And so, as long as dendro is applied constantly, it goes on forever. 2 pyro 2 dendro could be really good for lyney I think o3o

  • @Sunhwk
    @Sunhwk 9 месяцев назад +13

    tankfei is quite a reliable option too, and she can hold thrilling tales - in case you want to bring Kazuha or other anemo char for vv shred, but don't want to lose the 3 pyro buff. The only downside is that you need her c4. Thoma is kinda eh bc you need to do normal attack to refresh his shield.

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 9 месяцев назад +1

      Which is fine honestly to NA if need be. If you have him C6 he also boosts damage and not everyone will always beable to reliably charge attack no matter what team they use. Tankfei is good if you have C4 and high enough HP but thomas burst, layla and zhongli have the strongest shields

  • @wizardking3750
    @wizardking3750 9 месяцев назад +2

    2:48 the way I read DMG as OMG😭

  • @jimmys66
    @jimmys66 9 месяцев назад +82

    Just wanted to say, you are by far my favourite Genshin-tuber. The way you approach these videos is really interesting, unique and I always look forward to the next one!
    Thanks and cheers from Canada! 🇨🇦

    • @Ratheil
      @Ratheil  9 месяцев назад +7

      Why thank you fellow Canadian! I'm glad you enjoy my all over the place content! :D

  • @camillecutler6868
    @camillecutler6868 9 месяцев назад +7

    I'd say that Lyney's bow is very close if not basically the same to Aqua Simulacra on Tighnari if you run him on triple dendro (Tighnari, Nahida, Baizhu/Yaoyao/Kiara, and any electro unit with good application), as Tighnari benefits a lot from all that attack.

  • @ignistheidiot
    @ignistheidiot 9 месяцев назад +133

    I pulled for lyney and got c1 jean at 76 pity💀 at least now I have a guarantee for focalors

    • @Rikka-XVIII
      @Rikka-XVIII 9 месяцев назад +11

      I pulled for yelan and she now has a dendro vision 😭at 83 pity
      Hope I get her early
      Edit: at 45 pity currently no yelan *COPIUM

    • @a1enigma862
      @a1enigma862 9 месяцев назад +4

      I pulled a green lyney at 80 but then got him on 8, and did a fun 10 pull on yelan and got another green lyney
      guaranteed for arlecchino and I’m happy I’m finally lucky after having the most horrendous luck in star rail

    • @somacruz3022
      @somacruz3022 9 месяцев назад

      who is focalors?

    • @hellohello.123
      @hellohello.123 9 месяцев назад

      @@somacruz3022 hydro archon furina or focalors

    • @iya442
      @iya442 9 месяцев назад

      @@somacruz3022hydro archon

  • @personasgold
    @personasgold 9 месяцев назад +16

    I've been playing Lyney in a burgeon team with Baizhu, Nahida and yelan and he's quite a fun play :)

  • @azurerandomness
    @azurerandomness 9 месяцев назад +5

    A pyro character is honestly worth rolling for (for me personally) if
    1. One or more of their attacks is an explosion
    2. Enemies go BOOM
    I rolled for klee and have no regrets and I want to roll for lyney now

  • @cuboniner
    @cuboniner 9 месяцев назад

    Just wanted to say I've watched a lot of guide makers and yours really have a unique feel to them. I cant wait to watch more of your content and thank you!

  • @yuminamikko5551
    @yuminamikko5551 9 месяцев назад +7

    In my opinion, Lyney is so much better playstyle wise when compared to Ganyu. I find her kit the most boring playstyle in Genshin. What I love about Lyney and Tighnari compared to her is the fact her kit is too plain and simple while Tighnari's fast on field gameplay and Lyney's stacking anf burst make it so much fun to play them compared to Ganyu

  • @HazZzel-
    @HazZzel- 9 месяцев назад +12

    I'd saved for him and his weapon due to just liking his character, and I'm pleasantly surprised by how powerful he is. He can nuke, he can taunt, he can heal (himself), and you don't have to set up complicated reactions to see him do big damage.
    I hope we get a new pyro sheilder or something so there's better options for his team

    • @starrysky6586
      @starrysky6586 9 месяцев назад +2

      technically we already have 2 pyro shielders... though i still hope they'll release a pyro layla.

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@starrysky6586 My hopes exactly! I've heard leaks of a pyro four star in 4.1 so I'm going to pray it's pyro Layla

    • @eddieflamingo9735
      @eddieflamingo9735 9 месяцев назад

      Yes! We need more pyro supports. Im tired of only having Bennett as my support option
      Why dont we have other pyro healers? Fontaine is perfect for a small heals with actual subdps healer, or even a "Pyro Diona", shield with heals and respectable uptime with sacrifial bow
      And not only supports, why dont we have more pyro sub dps? Yes, Xiangling exists but... man I'm tired of her

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@eddieflamingo9735 The thing is Xiangling requires you to get fairly close to enemies, and if you don't have a sheilder then you don't want to do that. I'd honestly be happy with just pyro Layla or something, as long as the shield is strong

    • @aqwandrew6330
      @aqwandrew6330 9 месяцев назад

      why not use layla?

  • @wildfiregx
    @wildfiregx 9 месяцев назад +55

    I feel like Lyney will be an Investment character. Invest now and see some good rewards but wait till Natlan and more Pyro characters and hopefully he’ll be even better then.

    • @risangdanniswara5275
      @risangdanniswara5275 9 месяцев назад +16

      He is already better than current bow character tho, faster rotation and not too much using on field time

    • @Tomy_Lightning
      @Tomy_Lightning 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@risangdanniswara5275is better than other bow characters? Have you seen Yelan.

    • @Kay-mz8rf
      @Kay-mz8rf 9 месяцев назад +24

      @@Tomy_Lightning Yelan is good, but we’re mainly referring about on-field dps archers. That’s why Lyney is compared with Ganyu and Tighanri in the video instead of Yelan. It would be rather unfair to compare Yelan and Lyney together. Yelan’s main usage is an off-field hydro application sub-dps, which is completely different from Lyney’s kit. So yes Yelan is a better off-field dmg dealer, but it is also true Lyney is a much better on-field dps.

    • @risangdanniswara5275
      @risangdanniswara5275 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Tomy_Lightning compared to dps bow like yoimiya and tighnari

    • @starrysky6586
      @starrysky6586 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@risangdanniswara5275 if it's about field time, tighnari uses the least. he literally has always been known as a quickswap dps and his entire kit points toward that gameplay. lyney spends more time on field than him, even more so with constellations.

  • @CPastor1055
    @CPastor1055 9 месяцев назад +4

    You neglected to mention how, with Zhongli you can choose to run him on Archaic Petra instead of the usual Tenacity of the Millelith, as on a Mono Pyro team you will actually be generating only Pyro Crystallize Shards, thus being able to get decent value from that set

  • @jaheimmartin304
    @jaheimmartin304 8 месяцев назад

    First video I’ve seen from you and I can say this one video makes me excited to watch your other content keep up the good work

  • @EnKaii5733
    @EnKaii5733 9 месяцев назад +3

    6:24 stove god makes his appearance

  • @wizardsofscript
    @wizardsofscript 9 месяцев назад +3

    I think with Deyha and Concussive Ovation passive, you can play a high Phys multiplier Lyney.

  • @subarunatsuki9078
    @subarunatsuki9078 9 месяцев назад

    Damn, the edit is so smooth. I love it

  • @lucasbotelho9425
    @lucasbotelho9425 9 месяцев назад +4

    I don't know about Lyney, but you can shoot Ganyu's charged attack before the animation is complete, when u see the second circle closing up u can already shoot (and yes, it will be the full charge). I recommend training that to maximize her DPS if you main her

    • @lucasbotelho9425
      @lucasbotelho9425 9 месяцев назад

      My recommendation is training with ice bridges

    • @ducknana6908
      @ducknana6908 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@lucasbotelho9425no way you noticed the ice-brigding and thought about timing training method like me

  • @animesplafrese
    @animesplafrese 9 месяцев назад +4

    lyney is actually everything i wanted as a character because my favorite thing in this game always was the charged bow attack gameplay, but i don’t really enjoy ganyu for other reasons and loved him for his design and personality… and the gameplay also was perfect! couldn’t be more happy than that!
    also i literally always enjoyed playing with amber and for me getting a mixture of ganyu with amber is everything i could’ve asked for

  • @gareesh8478
    @gareesh8478 9 месяцев назад +1

    Serious question! My phone doesn't have enough storage 😢 If I want to transfer my mobile account to ps5, do I have to create a new ps account or can I use an existing one? And can I use my gmail to log in genshin?

  • @shadow_fischl9171
    @shadow_fischl9171 9 месяцев назад +5

    he summons a cat....
    that's automatically a win for me

  • @neontricity
    @neontricity 9 месяцев назад +5

    in terms of the team issue, i dont find it much of a problem as you think. i just use lyney and bennett, leaving 2 slots for anyone i want, and his damage is still INSANE. like, he did 250k in the span of 3 seconds using his skill and burst.

  • @isiahaguilar
    @isiahaguilar 9 месяцев назад +15

    I personally like tighnari since him doing his damage real fast makes farming bosses quick and easy, lyney felt like he is in between ganyu and tighnari in terms of how fast he does damage and the fact that i dont really have to think about elemental reactions was nice. Id probably roll for him in his rerun but for now, i rolled for constellations for yelan(currently c1) since i want to get her to c6 eventually

  • @cryomyst_6485
    @cryomyst_6485 9 месяцев назад

    I’m planning on running Lyeny with Bennett, Thoma, and Lynette, and it seems like it’s gonna be a lot of fun

  • @alistairborthwick2031
    @alistairborthwick2031 9 месяцев назад

    How does a mono pyro team deal with enemy shields? Just blunt force, claymore etc? Sounds slow for Abyss?

  • @nordesse
    @nordesse 9 месяцев назад +16

    I'm really just cycling through maining charged shot based archers... Ganyu was my first 5-star and my first main, Tighnari caught my attention with his fun quick swap style, and now Lyney with his impressive mono-pyro damage and flashy animations! Archers really out here proving they're still my favorites.

  • @iwalian
    @iwalian 9 месяцев назад +1

    ive been trying him on diff domains and in the abyss,, ive realized that his taunt is most times enough to get away with no shield, ive been prioritizing dps by going lyney, xiangling, benny and kazuha and its pretty easy to kill everything without getting interrupted :b

  • @hazardsigns
    @hazardsigns 8 месяцев назад

    Haven't been utilising Zhonli in "harder" content since dendro altered the playing field (mostly been running two dendro teams). Since I lacked a good pyro dps, I pulled for him. After some pain in the new artifact domain, I got him into a working state and love his team. I run Bennet, Zhonli and Kazuha with him and the team kicks butt. It's become my go-to other team, allowing me to spam my Nahida/Raiden/Yelan/Bailu team on whichever side of the abyss. Oh, I also ran him with Zhongli, Raiden and Kokomi in the Wanderer weekly boss domain and that was loads of fun 👍🏻

  • @MyStarseedColoring
    @MyStarseedColoring 9 месяцев назад +2

    It's funny that 'just another Ganyu' could be seen as a reason not to pull... when that was actually one of the reasons I decided to pull for him. Not because I don't have Ganyu (I do) or enjoy her playstyle (I admit I benched her for Ayaka) but... because I don't enjoy Hu Tao and my only other pyro dps option besides her on my account is Diluc. I was so desperate for a new good pyro dps for when pyro is required (specially in Abyss) that hearing he was kinda like Ganyu was a selling point!

  • @trevann8213
    @trevann8213 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm very curious how this character will do paired with my current kuki main and chongyun that I use to get more element reaction and to make kuki still good when electric isn't effective but still be a godly healer but I want a decent fire option on the side. What do you think, he seems very interesting and the healing will go great with him I think but would I be better with yoimiya and I would have to wait for her when I could get him now so I really want to know

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 9 месяцев назад

      It should work. I'm using raiden, baizhu and nahida since lc 20 1/1/1 talents and killing things super easily. He was wielding a lv 80/90 aqua r2 bow and mid tier wanderers troupe from my tighnari. I'm working on his bow and he's 70/80 now. He's one of the more versatile units that, while his best IS mono pyro, you can use other teams and NOT feel like you HAVE TO run that as your only option.
      I find myself using NA alot so I'm adding Thomas to the party. I just wish he was C6 for the talent to help boost Lyney's talent more. Debating on the other 2 members from there.

    • @trevann8213
      @trevann8213 9 месяцев назад

      @nobody-xh6ii I was mostly planning on using him solely for enemies that will die way faster from a good fire character and waiting till I'm at 30 wishes, 26 so far

  • @FarikoWishless
    @FarikoWishless 9 месяцев назад +1

    DUDE noticing the raccoon running along side the videos progress bar made me click around to see how accurate it was lmfao idk why thats so cool to me. Solid video but I wouldve liked just for that tiny thing XD

  • @notcharli3393
    @notcharli3393 9 месяцев назад +3

    would lyney also be good with baizhu in a burning team? I’m thinking shields and reactions 👀

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 9 месяцев назад

      I use him on my overworld team with Nahida, Raiden and Baizhu. Yes, it does work and he's been doing domains for his talent scrolls since lv 64. Even at lv 20 using my tighnari's mid wanderers troupe set and aqua simulacra r1 he quickly applies reactions as needed and his NA's procing raiden is great. Not to mention the shielding + healing.
      Then there's times I switched raiden with kokomi because I needed hydro for puzzles. Lv 20 lyney kills things faster than any other low level unit I've ever used even with overworld enemies who would normally tank hits just straight up dying. All lv 1 talents as well.
      I just got him 6/5/6 talent wise and lv 70/80. Need 60 flowers now and his bow so I can give aqua simulacra r2 to aloy/tighnari/childe

  • @ZAYKONN
    @ZAYKONN 9 месяцев назад

    I'm pulling for the weapon banner and not Lyney, which is a surprise, but it's mostly because I need bows for Ganyu, Tighnari and Fischl, I can probably make do with other bows but having Crit weapons is always nice.
    Oh, and as for using First Magic on Ganyu that's essentially the perfect bow for me as I use Ganyu Melt with Shenhe, it may not seem efficient but I like it, plus I get to use Shenhe with the flexibility of double bursting with both my cryo's while my Pyro is getting particles.

  • @araki585
    @araki585 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this video. I see other youtubers talking about artefacts and talents, and while its useful, i was much more interested in him playstyle and "how it feels to play him".

  • @Telios__
    @Telios__ 9 месяцев назад

    oh that was a sick edit where the crystal ball changes to ganyu ult at the start of the video

  • @musicsketcher7887
    @musicsketcher7887 9 месяцев назад +2

    I guess its time to build thoma
    Im using lyney, lynette, bennett and koko rn but thats jus for my exploring rn since i need ousia and a skill healer (also because koko looks amazing underwater) but ive had a hard time to actually build him a team, i dont have zhongli, i dont have tankfei, thoma is underbuilt, and i guess theres xiangling
    Sadly his bow as much as i want it because WOW THAT BANNER IS GLORIOUS im saving for neuvillette :((

  • @atticusbulan3508
    @atticusbulan3508 6 месяцев назад

    I got a Genshin impact ad of Lyney just running around and I thought that was the video

  • @xd_liz6391
    @xd_liz6391 9 месяцев назад

    I was so excited when I saw my five star and now my wanderer is happy with his new dehya

  • @pyroprince677
    @pyroprince677 9 месяцев назад

    I’m thinking bout using the 3 star messenger bow just bc it matches his outfit so well even tho I have all the 5 star bows 😢

  • @SpaceGamer07
    @SpaceGamer07 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’m betting on some sort of pyro healer that’s elemental skill reliant instead of burst reliant so we can proc his talent and signature weapon while being able to get at least 4 stacks (healer based off candles when Hoyoverse???)

  • @iHeich
    @iHeich 9 месяцев назад +2

    Actually if dehya reduced lyney's HP consumption she could potentially nerf his damage. If he doesn't go low enough for Bennett to heal him, it'll mess with his set's buff uptime

  • @nonagon7385
    @nonagon7385 9 месяцев назад

    I gotta wonder what the math is on Lyney Bennett Kazuha Zhongli is above having Xiangling and Zhongli, you get VV and the dmg bonus that way

  • @Beelzeblue
    @Beelzeblue 9 месяцев назад +18

    Genshin’s powerpuff girls

  • @kktrwa5385
    @kktrwa5385 9 месяцев назад +1

    A huge misconception is that you cant use ganyu's burst in her melt team which is not always true. I aoe situations its better to use her burst, yes the damage of her charged attacks may be less but overall damage of the team will increase as xiangling would be able to melt most of her hits and the ganyus burst itself does quite a bit odmf damage in such cases.

  • @vanillaattack4874
    @vanillaattack4874 9 месяцев назад

    i love the small racoon at bottom of video

  • @wantu7816
    @wantu7816 9 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t really think he needs a shield because of the Pneuma mechanic that will allow him to disable most boss Mechanics. So he is gonna be safe, only for Fontaine update probably.

  • @Gaeshiete
    @Gaeshiete 9 месяцев назад +4

    In theory, a good team for Kyney could be:
    Lyney
    Bennett
    Xiangling
    Kokomi/barbara (or Qiqi)
    he would still vape or Melt sometimes

    • @Kronman590
      @Kronman590 9 месяцев назад

      If you vape you actually lose damage, because one hit would vape (and do more), the next would hit no aura and do way way less.

    • @keefyboi5307
      @keefyboi5307 9 месяцев назад +3

      Burn or swirl if you replace kokomi with Nahida/Baizhu or Kazuha will still have good rotation 5:32

  • @elijahswanson619
    @elijahswanson619 9 месяцев назад +3

    I got Lyney and then got yelan back to back. I almost cried cause I’m free to play and never had that happen before. He is awesome even though I just got him.

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- 9 месяцев назад

      Congrats, and good luck building them!

    • @AuroraSilverFox
      @AuroraSilverFox 9 месяцев назад

      🎉✨🎉✨🎉✨💕

  • @sein442
    @sein442 9 месяцев назад +27

    Im waiting for Furina, but the temptation is really high

    • @Balena_sas2341
      @Balena_sas2341 9 месяцев назад +10

      I think you could actually take lyney and save enough to get a guaranteed furina even if you're totally f2p.
      Expecially if you already saved some primos.
      I personally would suggest you to wait furina and take lyney at his rerun (that will be soon if he does like sumeri characters).
      I'll do like this.

    • @deathhs
      @deathhs 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Balena_sas2341yeah especially if you have welkin moon then you get a pull everyday and 3.2 is in around 60 days so 60 pulls would be definitely there and all the events and exploration and abyss is completely enough to get her aswell (tho u need to win the 5050 there)

    • @Balena_sas2341
      @Balena_sas2341 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@deathhs yep.
      And there are 83 pulls for f2p in this version.
      If you have welking is 109 (wich is an absurd amount) and next version we will have a log in event + anniversary and a new area.

    • @LongDeadArtist
      @LongDeadArtist 9 месяцев назад

      Same I have 8k but I get bored from events so I'm holding off on it

    • @breadman8100
      @breadman8100 9 месяцев назад

      honestly feel like there's enough time to save even if u get a 5* rn

  • @lethyas7387
    @lethyas7387 9 месяцев назад +6

    i was pulling for yelan, i got jean, i had 1 more extra pull so i did it on lyney's banner, i got lyney. i wanted to get aqua simulacra, i got lyney's weapon. i swear mihoyo just gives if you dont even want it in the first place

    • @skyreaper1994
      @skyreaper1994 9 месяцев назад +5

      Now, you are a new Lyney Main :)

    • @lethyas7387
      @lethyas7387 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@skyreaper1994 but the painful part is that i only have amber as my other pyro character lmaoooo, i dont even have bennett yet

    • @Vixelated
      @Vixelated 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@lethyas7387Bennet will be free in an event soon

    • @miuletzmitzu6641
      @miuletzmitzu6641 9 месяцев назад

      @@lethyas7387 we get a free bennett in an upcoming event this patch, and you also have xiangling for free. So you have a good pyro support (bennett) and a good pyro subdps (xiangling).

    • @alctalks1487
      @alctalks1487 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@lethyas7387you'll get him for free this patch

  • @mischarowe
    @mischarowe 9 месяцев назад +1

    Tighnari's AOE is in his ultimate - if there's multiple enemies he'll hit multiple enemies. Just with single attacks withing the ult.

  • @MonchDiz
    @MonchDiz 9 месяцев назад +3

    In 60 pulls i got lyney, his weapon and aqua, havent felt luckier

  • @vieripakpahan1912
    @vieripakpahan1912 9 месяцев назад

    the first time i use lyney, it feels a bit weird due to his quite complex mechanic. but after several trials im starting to get used to it and event tempted to pull! he's pretty much fun to play and yet a very reliable damage dealer
    but im saving for wriostheley for now, let's hope for lyney's rerun

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 9 месяцев назад

      He should. All new characters get a rerun within 4-5 months

  • @patrycja2666
    @patrycja2666 9 месяцев назад

    Thats why Im using my Tankfei! Best decision ever made to wish for Yanfei few years ago lol

  • @furiisano651
    @furiisano651 9 месяцев назад

    what if we use dehya, kokomi , mona and lyney together? i think this work well

  • @danielferrieri7434
    @danielferrieri7434 9 месяцев назад +7

    I'm only going to do the Fontaine Story once I get Lyney

  • @Icarus703
    @Icarus703 9 месяцев назад +2

    Does anyone know what song is in the background i would really like to add it to my playlist

    • @moneko4925
      @moneko4925 9 месяцев назад

      Same please

    • @peirong
      @peirong 9 месяцев назад +1

      yes i also really want to know the music name

    • @moneko4925
      @moneko4925 9 месяцев назад

      @icarus703 and @peirong
      I found it ! Search Donkey Kong Country Returns - Thrill! Gear Flight (or just Gear Getaway from SSBU)
      istg i knew it was either a genshin ost or a dk one

    • @peirong
      @peirong 9 месяцев назад

      @@moneko4925 thank you!!!

  • @TekkatV2
    @TekkatV2 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love the Charge Shot characters so much

  • @weiseklinge
    @weiseklinge 9 месяцев назад

    Is Lyney viable with C4 yanfeis shield? I am considdering building her for him, because I don't like playing Zhongli (feels boring)

    • @shinsoatimaku
      @shinsoatimaku 9 месяцев назад

      What is the difference 💀

  • @uwublee
    @uwublee 9 месяцев назад

    I’ve noticed that in morgana actually the first great magic is better than Amos now even with 2 cryo which is amazing!:D

  • @dazaifeetpics
    @dazaifeetpics 9 месяцев назад

    number 1 lyney fan approves
    commenting on every lyney related video i find - vid 195

  • @ElTestok
    @ElTestok 9 месяцев назад +4

    8:40 I've actually run some tests with my Ganyu and, surprisingly, Lynney's Bow (The First Great Magic) beat out my Amos Bow in almost every scenario.
    (The only scenario where Amos did more Dmg, and not by much, was with No Reaction, and no Buffs, Simply Charged Shot Bloom.)
    Otherwise, whether it be Freeze or Melt, with Buffs, FGMagic came out on top. The different Buffers I have tried with Ganyu were Kazuha, Benny, Shenhe, Mona.
    I think the main reasons why this new bow does so well compared to Amos are:
    *1)* In Freeze, Ganyu doesn't worry about Charged Shots much, so the High Atk+CritDmg from FGMagic is more useful;
    *2)* In Melt Teams centered around Ganyu's Charged Shots, Ganyu already has a lot of Charge Atk Dmg with sets like Wanderer's Troupe and Shimenawa. This can make the extra Charge Atk Dmg from Amos a little redundant and can have diminishing returns. While FGMagic, on the other hand, has everything.
    Same Base Atk, ChargeAtkDmg%, 66%CritDmg, 32%AtkBonus (if using Ganyu + another Cryo).
    *3)* Finally, in teams with Shenhe, it's Obvious that the Quills can deal exponentially more Dmg with a CritDmg% Bow compared to Amos since the Quills are a Flat Increase and can Crit.
    I've also played around with Artifacts / stats / weapons using Genshin Optimizer. I have a very good Shimenawa Set, Wanderer's Troupe Set, AND Blizzard Set. Overall, for my account at least, the FGMagic almost always came out on top. When Amos was stronger, the difference was a lot smaller when compared to when FGMagic was stronger. Basically, when FGMacig was stronger, it was stronger by higher margins compared to Amos.
    So far, the only tests I have done were Freeze and Melt with 2 Cryo units on the team. If I try Mono-Cryo with 3 cryo units, the Bonus Atk% Stacks from FGMagic will be even higher so Amos can't compete lol.
    I understand everybody is going to have different artifact pieces and stats, so results may vary. Still, I felt a bit sad when I found out about this since I had been using Ganyu for a while, and it took me a long time to get my first Amos.
    I knew Lyney's Bow was good, but I wasn't expecting it to beat Amos on my Ganyu lol.

    • @raycigar6356
      @raycigar6356 9 месяцев назад

      Can u imagine the R5 version of this new bow xD I guess all Ganyu whales out there will immediately do just that

  • @rainespiano
    @rainespiano 9 месяцев назад

    i love the racoon progress bar

  • @aliounethiaw1443
    @aliounethiaw1443 9 месяцев назад

    Large atk cant knock you back when you have dehya's interruption RES, just like Raiden's burst or any shield.
    But dehya's interruption RES has a 9s uptime so it will end before the skill ends. Thats why you get knocked back while the skill is active

  • @trin7635
    @trin7635 9 месяцев назад

    I was pulling for Amos and ended up getting his weapon and I kind of don't want to pull for him , I can literally give him everything so should I pull, I'm near pity and I'm guaranteed

  • @Discoveri_
    @Discoveri_ 9 месяцев назад

    Accidentally got Lyneys weapon, but I’m using it on tighnari, so it’s put to good use

  • @Squeed0
    @Squeed0 9 месяцев назад +2

    I will always use Ganyu as my main cryo charged shot, SHES thé best and I love her sm

  • @I-lost-my-account-rip
    @I-lost-my-account-rip 9 месяцев назад

    Doesnt amber also count as a ca user?

  • @meiblack8934
    @meiblack8934 9 месяцев назад

    I want this guy, I really loved his gamestyle but the only thing is I don’t want to use 3 pyro characters in one team. I don’t like mono teams and I will feel like it would be waste for all my other characters that I was working on for so long.

  • @irinavs
    @irinavs 9 месяцев назад +1

    i have been waiting for a male ganyu!! lyney is so fun

  • @latioshunter
    @latioshunter 9 месяцев назад +1

    Farming the new set may take all version....but at least Emblem is in the Strongbox, so it wont kill me too much

  • @aniiiky
    @aniiiky 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm giving this a like just because of that little racoon at the bottom of the screen... adorable ❤

  • @KMakoENVtuber
    @KMakoENVtuber 9 месяцев назад +6

    Got Lyney on the first 10 pull, but I’m not sure if he’ll stand against Tighnari’s shotgun like charged shot.

    • @LongDeadArtist
      @LongDeadArtist 9 месяцев назад

      Mono pyro and higher multipliers would guarantee it

  • @leeunlibro
    @leeunlibro 9 месяцев назад

    I was saving my guaranteed for hutao but for some reason i decided to pull on lyney banner (to build pity) and got him at 52 pity. Im surprised by his dmg, like my talent levels are low and magician boy is hitting 30k+

  • @VuongNguyen-uz1ut
    @VuongNguyen-uz1ut 9 месяцев назад

    i accidentally invested a liitle bit too much into Thoma as Lyney's shielder knowing that Thoma's shield is pretty unique as u have to do normal attack to stack 'em, now i think i have to invest in Dehya, or just simply play Zhongli (i want to use Lyney Ben + Pyro shielder with Kazuha to maximize my dmg) ah it is a tough decision

  • @lightishredgummi9654
    @lightishredgummi9654 9 месяцев назад +2

    had about 200 wishes saved and spent them all on lyney and his weapon lol. first time pulling on the weapon banner, and it was mostly an aesthetic choice! the thought of ganyus playstyle had never appealed to me but from the tiny taste I got from lyneys trial, I at least don't think I'll be _frustrated_ by it lol. I've been itching for another character/team to main that ISN'T anemo damage focused but I'm weirdly picky about which characters I'll actually build. luckily, lyney scratches that itch AND the characters I'll be using with him are already built (I didn't have such luck with nahida or kaveh)
    I am just now realizing that he won't be as much of a change as I thought he would be since it's still single element damage lmao. I still won't be playing any reaction focused teams!

  • @haydar3623
    @haydar3623 9 месяцев назад

    Pls tell me which one is better in team comb

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад

      I think if you play them all in the best or one of their most optimal team comps they are all farily equal. Ganyu's and Lyney have more AOE then Tighnari so he falls behind but in single targte similar, and even in AOE Lyney can do well enough do to his spammable nuke burst.

  • @noahlin3851
    @noahlin3851 9 месяцев назад

    New Elite enemy route for Fontaine?

  • @ahmadsafuan3094
    @ahmadsafuan3094 9 месяцев назад

    I want him but I already got yelan c3 with her bow, yoimiya, ganyu with Amos and tighnari c4, I think I would be skip for daddy zhongli

  • @yoisakikanade_
    @yoisakikanade_ 9 месяцев назад

    i might pick him up on his rerun if bc he is a sillyguy but fr im saving for childe and also albedo whenever he decides to come back lmao

    • @Tsumi784
      @Tsumi784 9 месяцев назад

      chiles banner is right after lyneys

  • @Ulquiorra_Cifer
    @Ulquiorra_Cifer 9 месяцев назад

    generally, morgana is the best option for groupable enemies, tighnari is the best for bosses and single target content, melt ganyu and lyney are kinda similar cuz they are decent into everything

  • @Pavme
    @Pavme 9 месяцев назад

    0:08 Sara crying in the corner

  • @sypher_moon
    @sypher_moon 9 месяцев назад

    There are ways to keep tighnari on the field and it's super fun

  • @Quan5021
    @Quan5021 9 месяцев назад

    If you hit his taunt cat after a charge shot with his E it stacks an extra 60% damage

  • @LongDeadArtist
    @LongDeadArtist 9 месяцев назад

    I'm just going for that massive cat in his burst

  • @mermaidhot3l
    @mermaidhot3l 9 месяцев назад

    I love his design but i don't see me using him that much since how can i play him with my yelan?! Using yelan with yoimiya or hu tao seems much more powerful and fast than a charge attack dps

    • @Candytime9
      @Candytime9 9 месяцев назад

      Lyney gets a 100% damage bonus from having pyro teammates and when pyro is on the enemy. He does need vape at all to keep up with Yoimiya or Hutao. Lyne's burst is an AOE nuke with higher scaling then low HP Hutao, sure shec an vape but his passives give him so much damage that he does not need vape to compete. I have tested this myself but you can also find showcases on youtube. His charge shots may be slower but they deal very high damage.

  • @mikele7330
    @mikele7330 9 месяцев назад +4

    wait how did you lv 90 lyney already :)???

    • @kamicokrolock
      @kamicokrolock 9 месяцев назад +2

      Might have gotten early access on the media server.

    • @yoisakikanade_
      @yoisakikanade_ 9 месяцев назад +2

      or spent condensed resin / worldhopped for mats

    • @yoisakikanade_
      @yoisakikanade_ 9 месяцев назад +1

      *fragile

    • @miuletzmitzu6641
      @miuletzmitzu6641 9 месяцев назад +1

      fragile resin+joining other's wordls to get materials