5 Reasons Airsoft is Bad for Testing CQB Technique - A SWAT Trainer's Perspective

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июл 2023
  • In this video I discuss five reasons airsoft is horrible for testing CQB technique. In my day job as a SWAT trainer we often test out variations of room clearing technique. In my opinion there are several ways recreational airsoft can provide a valuable resource for this kind of technique testing. I explained those in my previous video that you can find below.
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  • @markcarico546
    @markcarico546 11 месяцев назад +4

    Honestly I hate airsoft cqb. I've been playing for 18ish years and cqb has never peaked my interest, I much rather play in the woods or something. 1 the "kill houses" are never a good representation of buildings outside of milsims that actually use buildings, they are built like video game buildings, scale is off, too many doors and windows, etc... it's a lot harder to do cqb in a real house than in at airsoft/paintball fields. 2 there's no incentive a lot of the times other than bragging rights so you have a lot of people who act with no regards for living or dying because they can go back 200 feet and respawn, another thing that milsims kinda work around because the respawn might be a mile away. Also just respawns in general make cqb less interesting to me because you have people just respawning and running right back to where you are. You can't take your time and clear buildings safely most of the time because you'll get shot up by someone sprinting through hosing everyone down (who has probably been shot already and didn't notice) and it kinda destroys the chess match part of it. No knocking people who have fun that way, just definitely not what I consider fun. 3 Also objectives would be great, smaller teams doing hostage rescue, bomb disarming, holding a building, would be great but most of the time from my experience it's just force on force 15 minutes unlimited respawns (or a good amount of them for 15 minutes). I think there can be a lot of good training to airsoft just not airsoft games.

  • @ProfessionalMusician74
    @ProfessionalMusician74 10 месяцев назад

    Lmao, the breakdancing in the middle of a game is funny! During one of the CQB games I've went to, there was some guy who danced near the respawn area and I joined in with him.

  • @lebanonchristian3951
    @lebanonchristian3951 11 месяцев назад +2

    Real world cqb is full with blind fire , and for real simulation you should allow blind fire behind walls and doors and this changes everything

  • @sirfanatical8763
    @sirfanatical8763 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is good to know. thanks

  • @Sandmanthesniper
    @Sandmanthesniper 11 месяцев назад +2

    All truth!! No one speeds softs in real life or at least anyone trying to stay alive ! thanks for making such great content excellent point of View coming from an experienced person keep up the good work !! Sling is kicking ass its my go to with everything

    • @GunfatherMilsim
      @GunfatherMilsim  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you sir and I am glad you like the sling!

  • @Whiskey11Gaming
    @Whiskey11Gaming 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's all in how you train. I agree that airsoft cqb events are pretty shit poor places to practice good cqb. That's not the same thing as airsoft guns aren't useful for training cqb.
    There are always going to be limitations in training aids. The biggest one is we can't see realistic bullet wounding on a live person in training... killing people in training is generally frowned upon.
    How you use the item is different. If you set up a course minimizing, but acknowledging the limitations of airsoft as a training aid, airsoft has some huge advantages in cost vs amount of training over UTM/SIMS. At over a dollar a round, UTM or Sims is pricey as hell to use in training.
    That said, and you can cringe all you want, GBBR have a place here as realistic trainers. No, they don't have the same recoil (honestly SIMS/UTM doesn't either), but the rest is there. What needs to happen is companies need to stop making shit GBBR which break every 5 rounds.
    FLETC, for what they are worth, use GBBR and GBB pistols for their force on force training augmented with blank firing guns. Doing their active shooter instructor course was as close to the real deal I've experienced... the adrenaline effects and perceptual narrowing, even the auditory exclusion were very close to what i experienced in my OIS. All using airsoft with some blanks for drive.

    • @lebanonchristian3951
      @lebanonchristian3951 11 месяцев назад

      Real cqb is full with blind fire

    • @MauShogunul
      @MauShogunul 11 месяцев назад

      Yep. You are 100% right, in my country the simunition is more expensive than the real one, so GBBR is the most non bankruptcy for training (a litle bit of mods for the recoil to increase it), and thats it. And to tell that the training sites are offlimit for most of people (even law enforcement that are non swat). And as you said if you know the limitations of airsoft, a little training is better than no training at all.

  • @kudoistas5133
    @kudoistas5133 11 месяцев назад +1

    Started breakdancing lmao, good video!

    • @GunfatherMilsim
      @GunfatherMilsim  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks. Yeah we get all kinds in this sport.

  • @jimbeam8042
    @jimbeam8042 11 месяцев назад

    Would you say that the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, or vice versa?

    • @GunfatherMilsim
      @GunfatherMilsim  11 месяцев назад

      It is a good starting point but the data is all anecdotal. You need to confirm what you are observing with simunitions in a controlled environment where you take measures to isolate the technique you are testing.

  • @roninricker3322
    @roninricker3322 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is that a Kenosha kid shirt?