A closer look at the new Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024
- The 2023 Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale was a huge hit with everyone as soon as it was revealed. Just look at it. One of the few tributes to a former legend that really lived up to the hype. Now we've had a bit of time with it, we've been able to get into the details and... it still doesn't disappoint.
Let's take you through all the details that make the Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale truly special.
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New or old?
old
Old obviously
the old had a manual and a V8 so i would have to go with it
It's beautiful
Old
Call me old fashioned or nostalgic, but the original just looks apart. A sublime piece of art, a tribute to the automotive world, oozing with soul and caracter.
That's just because you are right.
Absolutely agree. Shame they didn't go down the AM route, and reproduce a limited run of the original... Perhaps the original design would now fall foul of latest EU regs
@@FFS704 I'm totally not a fan of this current wave of "restomods" of any sort. The only thing that values the originals is the fact that they're original and were built a certain way at a certain time. as for the 33, I only hoped they were as sensible with design coherence and simplicity as they did with the 8C and 4C. On this case, the front and profile are OK but the rear is just a hot mess with no connection with the front design.
@@Gois83The DB5 Continuation from Aston Martin isn't a restomod by any means. They built those cars using the same techniques which were used when the original 60s car was built. They went back to using the English Wheel n stuff to form the body panels. Jaguar too did the same when they rolled out the XKSS continuation cars. Aston Martin hunted down the chaps who did the interiors on the original car and had them/their kin involved in the build of the continuation cars.
I understand the dislike for restomods but look at it this way. It's breathing a new lease of life into the cars that were probably neglected n probably would've been written off. I'd rather see them out n about in the form of restomods than see them gone forever. I do however have extreme disdain for electrification of classic cars n consider them to be absolute sacrilege.
@@FFS704I believe the ultra limited production cars get some kind of waiver from the usual regulations. I feel that it probably had more to do with the effort that would've been required from the manufacturing team. Also, considering the usual reliability issues from Alfa n Maserati, it would've been quite the gamble for them in terms of managing to sell all units.
There are 2 things I would change about it, which would make it perfect in my eyes. 1 manual gearbox, and Alfa has one for this engine. 2 analog dials instead of the screen, these would make it timeless. The screen will look simply outdated in some years, not to mention that it will break down one day and no one will be able to fix it or replace it, as there will be no spares available, 8c owners can chip in here.
Agree, and add a NA engine to that list in my opinion. Detuned v12 from GMA/cosworth maybe, 450-500hp would be more than enough. It would just make it that more special, altho wouldn’t be Alfa engine. Or something from Ferrari maybe.
Bro you're wrong, just because something has a screen doesn't necessarily mandate it to be outdated in the future, the screen looks like it would still be cool and retro even 100 years from now.
@@your-neighbor he shared his opinion, he can’t be wrong😀
6:30
The Engine is shared with the Maserati MC20, and the original 33 had a V8, not a V6
Small correction, because V6 engines still suit Alfa
ah young guys, only know what they are told. yes original was a v8
@@RB30ZED Ye, and a 2 liter at that. Pretty rad innit
Not exactly. I thought it so at the beggining but the 33 actually has the 690T from the Giulia GTAm... but the thing is both Nettuno and 690T are based on the F154 that you can find on the Ferrari 488, SF90 and Roma. Bore spacing, stroke, bank angle, valvetrain layout and such are all identical and common to these but with 2 cylinders cut off with specific casting, split crankpins (for even firing), specific intake manifolds and ECU and the 690T has a slightly smaller cylindre bore. So, it's not the same engine but they're pretty much twins.
What a brand is Alfa Romeo.. passion.. elegance..race.. class... all in just a brand
The original Stradale is still the most beautiful car ever built, this is the most beautifull car off the new era!
I love the interior. So refreshing to not see giant touch screens and an overcrowded steering wheel. I am very surprised Alfa did this. The aircaft switches are a little silly, but overall bravo to them!
Excellent video! Ben did an awesome job going around the car and explaining the details. More videos like this please!
The interior is second to none 👏
I'll pass on the new one.. The original from 56 years ago has the aesthetic purity and form of line that works.
Couple of thinks that I think aren´t right in this video: 1st: the original 33 Stradale had a 2.0l v8, 2nd: the Gulia has a 2.9l V6... the Maserati MC20 has the 3.0l V6... I´m pretty sure it´s the Maserati engine not the Giulia.
Indeed; These "journos" are just reciting the PR (just as bad as the folks parroting brexit lies and disinformation!). They really do not put in the work or know their cars.
No mention of the original designer (Franco Scaglione), the precise sources of the chassis or the engine...
the interior design is............................TIMELESS.
If the 33 Stradale never existed and Alfa released this new design, you would call it very nice. But I don't think it can hold a candle to the original, nor to the impact of the original. This reincarnation looks like just another multi-million dollar EV/ICE trinket imho. Nice interior though...
Alfa Romeo makes the most beautiful cars out there with consistency
4:20 it doesn’t like the look of the car behind it.. what a beauty !!! 😍
I am not convinced by the chopped off front and rear, the old model was a lot more subtle. It's pretty but the original is on another level.
The interior is top notch though..
i can feel it coming in the air tonight
what a magnificent design
IMHO it looks like the design team lost the urge half way through.
That grille is definitely inspired by the 2000 GTV
I like how at 1:22 you can see the logo within the "shield". But as far as V6 engines -- didn't the original have a V8???
Sure did - both the original Tipo33 and the 33 Stradale used a 1995cc V8 with a flat-plane crank.
The world doesn't need any more electric cars, but the world certainly needs more beautifully emotional old fashioned cars like this.
Verde Montreal would look amazing with those shapes.
Incredible interior design. Last time I've raised my eyebrows like that was because of TVR Cerbera. Stunning Alfa. Pozdro666
At what point will designers stop creating a circle light and intersecting it with a line? The interior is a masterpiece. The outside is terrible. The rear (as a homage) is far too fussy, and those terrible McLaren 720 esque massive front lights
Agreed
Also agreed. The only thing I like about this are the windows.
Alfa’s back catalogue, track success and producer of some of the world’s best cars place the brand in the pantheon of rare car brands.
How do you get access to one of the originals and one of the new ones, in the same place, and not recognize that the original has a V8?
Exactly. You can even look in the rear window (as I just did) and count the intake trumpets.
I thought this car originally had a V8 that was the basis of the Montreal. Please explain.
Beautiful car, my favorite is the Maserati Grand Turismo. I like cars with a long front end. I also like how smoth the curves are versed so many super cars that are sharp angles. It's an instant like for me.
The original will never be beaten it’s just a man with a design in his head and passion rather than a design with a few silicon chips
Really like the presenter. He’s original and has a different persona than all the others doing this sort of thing.
A Tipo 33 Stradale kit car using Alfa Busso engines would be a real winner imho. Back in the 1990s there was an effort to market an Alfa TZ-1, I don't think it was successful though. I really wanted one. Do it now with Mazda MX-5 ND-2 running gear and it would be at the top of my list.
Kit car builders are going to have fun with this. They'll buy Maseratos and put a body on it that looks like this, but with the headlamps everyone wants on it.
Absolutely gorgeous automobile... stunning exterior, functional interior, and a red paint that is 3 dimensional. This Alfa Romeo is politely saying it is not a Ferrari. It will certainly turn heads as it drives past other drivers.
I drive a Maserati GT. It is similar in design concept. Simple yet Stunning... 2 door coupe, back seats, trunk, leather interior, and Ferrari made the engines for that model. I could have bought a Ferrari, but only 1 Maserati in my town. Lots of Ferrari's already.
I did not care for the rear style, but the way everything flowed back and then blended, could totally love this car in my garage. Loved the interior.
6:24 "V6 engine, just like the original"? I could have sworn that both the original Tipo 33 and 33 Stradale came with a 2.0 flat crank V8, rather than a V6.
Simply stunning
I'll probably get some folks mad....
I bet if the C8 Corvette didn't exist, then Alfa would have mass marketed the car, thousands of units to the USA. And it would have sold well. I'd love one.
It's simple economics. Value matters and you just get more car with a C8 AND much better after-sale support and warranty issue resolution.
Even if I could get a "33", I'd put a twin turbo K20 in it at a moderate 600WHP.
My philosophy-- "cars that look like they can go fast, really ought to..."
Hmmm... wonder if they'd sell me a "roller".....
Is the window washer reservoir under the bonnet trim ? 😆
Alfa is just number one,forever.
Detailer here 🙋🏼♂️
Those swirls on the original are giving me nightmares, please let me at it 😂
FINALLY................no useless flat hd tv inside . 😅 A REAL MASTERPIECE. thank you ALFA ROMEO design department team.🖤❤🖤
If you wanted to sell a lot of them and be loved by car comunity:
- Simple elegant desing with bits of new era
- manual N/A v8 with arround 500/600 hp
- No screens
- Simple and sporty desing interior
- Still small and light supercar, not necesary super fast, but fun to drive
- No more than 300.000€ full equiped
5:12 Actually, there is an extra screen, but it’s hidden. It will slide down from below the dashboard at the push of a button.
The front ends of 98% of new cars look about 90% the same. You can spot the unique beauty of this front end a block away.
Well done Alfa, thank you for something new, which was actually something old.
You indicated the V6 in the new car is just like the original. Double check your reference as the original on a 2.0 liter V8 quad cam, 4 valves per cylinder, and mechanically fuel injected with a 6 speed manual. Original was decades ahead of its time.
Does Bottas get an employee discount?
No, because he took delivery of his AMG One.
like the entrance music 🎶
Its a beautiful vehicle... The cost must be mind blowing
She's beautiful a work of pure art 👏😢👏😍😍😍😍😍😍
“Mom can i have BMW LMDh?”
“We have bmw LMDh at home”
BMW LMDh at home:
I would have made the lines a little more similar to the original 33,
but still a beautiful car!
There is a large display but that one slide from down under dashboard on a press of a button
With those modern designs it is like...if someone told me that they all come from from the same video game, I would believe them. It seems like there is only a single car manufacturer left and he constantly steals his own ideas. They all sport the samey features and lines. And with the advent of paddle shifting and automatic transmissions deleteing the driver as an element of the whole equation my verdict is: Modern cars are so boring.
Imagine calling a 620hp tailor made Alfa Romeo "boring".
@@EhM-xt7plyou know he has a point I agree with.
It would have been nice to see a modern take on the 2.0L V8 from the original. A V6 just won't be the same, batteries absolutely butcher the idea
Original ❤
a few weeks ago they said it wasn't the 2.9 from the Q.
The old one looks better. The new one is just like the myriad other sport cars out there
Not a patch on the V8 engined original
I've ordered mine in Pink.
Absolutely unique while being so beautiful.........
If I would have money I would buy the new version.
If I would have a lot of money I would buy the original!
If you want a beautiful car you want an alfa...the best of the Italians.
The original was a V8 not a V6
To my mind, the Ferrari P3 was/is the best looking racing car. I think the new Alpha is gorgeous, but the headlights look wrong to me. Eye of the beholder, and all that.
I like them both…!
The size of the new version is not appealing.
Modernity and safety be damned, the original is just far and away the most beautiful
I don't generally like these modern tributes. and I dont like this one
Not a patch on the stadale
Beauty
The rear lights should’ve stayed round
MC20 for me seeing that all 33 of these are already sold
Give me a reason to buy this car. (Apart from I can't afford it)
Being trapped on the MC20 base-plate really hamstrung this design. There's some artful trickery going on with making the bottom edge black so you look at it less, but ultimately the intentions of the designers are constantly fighting against the fact their lines have to wrap around the chunky MC20 chassis with a very square, hipless footprint. A tonne of gorgeous detail doesn't compensate for the silhouette. With platforms between cars coming closer together, designers seem to have to spend more of their time disguising the lines of a car, rather than accentuating them. The original is nothing but the latter.
Looks Sensational, but the price is just Ridiculous
Sad that it is impossible for them to make it proper with a small NA V8 and manual
The original had one flaw: the headlights. The new one made them even more garish. Oh well...
I prefer their earlier work.
Avec un alfa romeo gtv v6 on est aux grall de l auto le v6 et tellement beau et tout ceux qui arrive c est l esprit ancien nouveaux
The multi millionaires and billionaires will surely love it. For everyone else it’s just a dream.
Could the lights not be a bit more like the original?
It's like Star Wars in the 21st century. All they need to do for home runs is offer what the fans are screaming for. So they do a totally different thing, insult the fans' taste, and expect eternal applause for it.
Replace original stunning front lights by McLaren wannabe units, check.
Ferrari 330P4 is much better looking.
I disagree on the interior, I think for 1.7M they could do way better, someone needs to go and look at the wheeler TVR's, also I suspect those nice but stick out toggles wont make production for safety reasons.
Otherwise a great looking car
Somewhere on a farm, a clarkson gets a semi.
I like the new T33, but the original T33 would be more fun to drive. A modern driver would find an Autodelta modified Alfa of this period too radical and difficult to drive on the street. An Alfa with Autodelta trick equipment is always pulling, if driven properly in gear.
great looking yes but others like E Type and ferrari mid 60s have massive claims
Right design. Wrong price. Yes, we really need another 2 million EUR car - NOT.
Make it right, at a reasonable price and let mere mortals have an opportunity to own one.
The old / Original version look´s much better, much more powerfull.
As beautiful as this is, I'd still take the Pantera P72.
Ben describes that as,... yeah, Ben, visit your local optometrist, you need glasses. That series isn't the prettiest that they've done, let alone stand them next to a P400S
The original had a V8 2000cc.
Not a V6!
This car is beautiful, but I cant help but feel a little depressed watching this. This beautiful work of art comes at a time the end of the combustion engine coming to an end really is the here and no. It's no longer a "in the future" scenario. I struggle to believe there will be many more cars that make you feel the way I feel when I see a beautiful work of art like this because combustion engine cars, for me, aren't just the look but also the feel. Now I admit I am a total noob to EV's but I don't believe there is anything like the variety of different feeling and personalities the thousands of engine specs there are compared to EV's. I hope I'm wrong.
clarksonnayhammond clone, creepy. distracting from a beautiful car although the earlier Tipo does it for me.
...like how much is this going to cost? Since when are Alfa catering to, Ferrari owners? If they only ever make 10 of them, obviously all pre-bought. IT MIGHT AS WELL NOT EXIST...REALLY....put a different badge on it fgs.....
The original had a 2 litre N/A V8.
Alfa make great looking cars but the quality control is horrendous. EVERY 4C I've ever seen had dismal panel gaps, something you would expect of a kit car.
00:07 doors, build quality...
Alfa’s look better than Ferrari’s nowadays
Damn being poor has always sucked but it's even worse when you see what money can buy
isnt this a reskinned La Ferrari? doors and monocock looks the same
More likely a newly dressed Maserati MC20
kittens?????
The original had a V8 not a V6!
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