1988 Maserati 430 | Retro Review
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- Exotic. Expensive. Elaborate. A little less chrome and it would've been a timeless design...
Show 803 | Originally Taped 10-13-1988
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0-60 in 6.2 seconds is amazing for an '80s luxury car.
A mid 14 1/4 mile is nothing to sneeze at either
Right there with the V8's of the same era👍
And now thats a V6 Camry number...
and it's on par with the Corvette and Porsche 944 Turbo
2020 Honda Pilot runs 0-60 in 6.2 seconds and 1/4 mile in 14.7, you know the crossover SUV which you liked to have fun with it by saying that it is a minivan, LOL!
Am I the only one who didn’t expect too see an engine that pretty?!?😳👍🏻🙏
Both the presentation of the engine bay AND the interior, are beautifully detailed and executed.
Probably.... italians always have the under bonnet look nailed
Pretty engine, fugly car.
@@a.person7825 It certainly can't hold a candle to the Bora or Merak, but I think it looks okay.
Ohh man, I was IN LOVE with the whole Maserati series, from the 1982 Biturbo to, 1988 Karif all the way to the Ghibli of the 1995 year. They are still as handsome as ever. That was a dream car for me back then and still a favorite now.
Thank you Motorweek for bringing this back. 👍
Same here. Love the whole Biturbo series, exactly like you do.
@@wp8022 👍
what a beautiful engine!
Something to admire while you wait for a tow truck. 🤣
That center console armrest looks amazing
It seems like a million _'miles'_ ago that my wife & I owned an '89 Spyder and an '89 228 at the same time. We bought at just the right time when MIE purchased the entire USA parts supply and cut parts prices to around a 3rd of what they'd been. Those seats were so cushy & comfortable, and that Italian glove-leather was buttery-soft. You could drive all-day in those cars and not feel sore!
@@GlennC789 It's not a solved problem TODAY. I own several sports cars, American & German, that will punish your butt severely for staying in the saddle an entire day. The comfortable, cushy seats of the 70's & 80's are history.
@@GlennC789 Are either of them a Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6 or a Mercedes-Benz R171 SLK 55 AMG? That's my yardstick. Anyone who _'interstate's_ those cars carries a seat-cushion in the trunk!
So, do you recommend these old Masers or tell people to stay clear? Cheers!
The Maserati 430s interior looks remarkable, it's similar to a 2004-2008 3rd gen Acura TL base model with the exception of the cushion center arm rest. 0 to 60 in a 2.8 L V6 6.2 seconds and the quarter mile time at 99 mph, that is simply amazing numbers back then.
It looks more like the 1993 Acura Vigor interior to me. Looks good tho
@@rahimi4762 the Vigor was, I think, designed by Bertone or somebody Italian. I could be wrong.
@@rahimi4762 Vigor looks like the Maserati. Maserati came 1st
3:05 wow an Italian car with an actual reasonable and logical ergonomics and center console layout... interior actually makes sense
although the seat backrest ends half way up Dennis Weaver's back @ 2:18
@@alfamonk ahhh they cant all be winners lol
Uh…the driver seat controls are located on the passenger side. Truly baffling.
@@VideoAmericanStyle It's an Italian car you got to take the meat with the 🦴 lol
I loved these Maserati's from this era -the spare tires compartment was so cool 😎
I know these cars are hideously unreliable, but I have always thought they are very good looking.
Sounds like me
Never a mention about the DISMAL reliability of some of the cars they tested (they would never get anymore cars to test with some brands). Reliability is top on my list when car shopping. It's a disservice to the viewers to not mention reliability.
@@scdevon That is false. They are not qualified to speak of reliability of models that are brand new to the market (without longer testing). They did do long term testing where problems are mentioned
Did u research or just assuming
@@MrCarGuy - They did long term testing once in a while. The poor reliability of some POS cars was well known though and they tested them year after year with hardly a peep about poor reliability (Olds Diesels, Cadillac 4100 engines, etc).
That interior is so beautiful
Currently own 2 228 coupes and a Biturbo. The FI cars (87-90) are the ones to get for more reliability. I have a friend with a 430. Great cars.
We owned a couple Masers back in the 1990's. You still go to MIE for parts?
@@Matt_from_Florida Lenny so far. He's been good to deal with.
@@individual1977 Lenny's good. I still need a decent source for the struts though.
Horrendous reliability, but god is it worth it. The interior is magnificent and what a beautiful engine.
That horrendous reliability is what would keep me from buying a Maserati, then or now. Give me a Camry SE, reliable, sporty and holds it resale value. Yes, I know you can't compare it to a Maserati, but for me, those are my priorities. I like something that looks and rides nicely, but I also value reliability and resale.
Yeah I'm not sure it is. I'd buy the 89 5-series instead which was one of BMW's best models.
Today Maserati Is very good.
@@ludovicodemarco7794 I don't know... I'll stick with Toyota or Lexus just to be sure.
@@ludovicodemarco7794
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sure it is. 🤣🤣😆😄
That interior looks so delicious. And its extreme boxy-ness looks so damn cool.
MW’s Test Team recorded a 99mph 1/4 mile trap speed for this car.
That is faster than their results for-
Porsche 911 Carrera G50
Porsche 964 C2
Porsche 928S4
Porsche 944 Turbo
BMW E30 M3
BMW E36 M3
BMW E34 M5
BMW 840Ci
Corvette L98
Camaro IROC-Z
Buick Grand National
Pontiac Turbo Trans Am 20th Anniv
Lotus Esprit Turbo
Ferrari 328 GTS
Lamborghini Jalpa
Mercedes 190 2.3-16v
Mercedes C36 AMG
Ford Mustang GT 5.0
Saleen Fox Mustang 5.0
FC RX7 Turbo II
MR2 Turbo
Mitsu 3000 GT VR4
Mitsu Eclipse Turbo GS
Mitsu Starion ESIR
Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo
C4 Audi S4
Audi V8 Quattro
Taurus SHO V6
GMC Syclone
GMC Typhoon
Honda S2000
VW Corrado VR6
Crazy how much automotive design changes, I literally used to think this car was so cool and good looking back in the day...... now I look at it and it genuinely doesn’t look a lot different then a Chevy Cavalier sedan from the same era if you squint. It’s as if every manufacturer just used the same 3 box design, standard square headlight and generic tail light for everything and then just “decorated” it with chrome for style. I think the new for 1989 Nissan Maxima and 1988 Acura Legend Coupe were far better looking cars of the same era than this Maserati
In my humble opinion, I don't think that the design of '89 Maxima and the '88 Legend should be compared to the 430, being the Maserati Biturbo (the pre-restyling model) released to the market in 1981, almost a decade before the two abovementioned cars
Maseratis from that era always reminded me of the BMW E30, at least from the rear.
@@Mrmatteo08 my point was they were on the market at the same time, just because they were designed at different times doesn’t matter, but I agree they aren’t comparable in other respects
Italian junk
You're never seeing any gorgeous leather and wood interior and a real clock in the dash with that Nissan and Acura though. Both probably had that Japan-tastic gray mouse fur looking cloth interior and plastic buttons all around.
Fact: It made it's appearance in the movie "The Fly" remake in the 1980s starring Jeff Goldbum .
It was in License to Kill, too.
When I was growing up there was one of these parked in the high street when I lived. It had A-pillar rust big enough to fit a hand in even though it must have been eight years old tops.
At the time Maserati didn't have a lot of money, and they were almost going through bankruptcy when the biturbo was being developed. So basically when the bi-turbo and the 430 we're being developed they were trying to use whatever they can to save money. And then put it on the market.
The handling of the 430 is so impressive.
Over all, it has a nice style!
I had a 1990 model in 1992, mine was automatic though. The timing belt let go when I was doing about 85 in the fast lane, that was the end on that motor, damaged pistons and valves...
Wow, that was an expensive car! $42,625 in 1988 is just over $100,000 in 2022 money adjusted for inflation. No wonder they didn't sell very many!
crazy, 33 years later and this car is almost as fast as my 2021 lexus is 350 fsport......
Imagine having “F Sport” badging in 2022 and barely crack high 5’s
@@RegionalRadioShackManager exactly !!!!!! lol
I was 5 when i fell in love with this car. Seen one at the mall. Always wanted one ever since.
I imagine this car is what Cadillac envisioned when developing the Cimarron. Then reality hit when GM told Cadillac to base it on a Chevy Cavalier with no budget.
It kinda does like an oversized Cimarron.
Not sure which would be more unreliable or depreciate more, a Cadillac Cimarron or a Maserati 430. At least with the Cavalier based Cimarron, you didn't have to shell out as much money.
The Stay Puft Marshmallow Man called. He wants his front seat armrest back.
I love this car. Still 🔥
Anyone notice the sound effect around 3:15-3:17??? Sounds like the same stop watch effect at the end of all Motorweek videos. Funny. Could be an Easter egg. ☺️☺️☺️
Misses should include...Looking like a first gen Cavalier at a quick glance.
1987 and later 2.8 fuel injected cars were much more sorted. Maserati rushed the previous cars into production, which was needed to save the business. 4 valve cars in Europe were quite nice.
6.2 0-60 is faster than a 1987 Buick Grand National, but he said the IROC was even faster? I don't remember any IROC being faster than the 87 intercooled GN.
87 GN's ran mid 5's in the 0-60 with a good driver. Don't go by motorweeks test
Bella prova 👏
La 430 era - ed oggi lo è ancora di più - un'auto che fa del carattere sanguigno e prorompente il suo pregio migliore
Great choice for a Retro Review. I forgot this car even existed. I would be surprised if any actually exist in the US at this time. At least we have this video to remember it by.
The long shot of the 430 on the tracks looked like an early 80s Honda Accord, never thought about it. Regardless, I like the looks.
And the front looks like a 1984 Cavalier, lol!
What's with the little "swoosh" sound effect at 3:16? Did the copyright gods frown on the song the radio was playing?
Really frightened about the body roll!! Here's your barf bag for the 2 rear passengers!
3:54 sheesh that engine bay is beautiful!
Honestly looks kinda like a Cadillac Cimarron from some angles lol.
Ah, yes. the 1980s Maserati. Looks like a Renault on the outside, but a Rolls-Royce on the inside. Perfect.
That was a cool car. I remember it fondly.
I’m surprisingly impressed. Way ahead of it time in style and performance. What a shame reliability is trash.
I wish that I could have heard Ricardo Montalbam say "Carpathian Elm Burl".
Hey!! At least it still came with a Manual Transmission.
It’s a beautiful looking car too
the intro music is iconic!
Those accel. times are quite good for the genre. 6.2 and 14.6 are still respectable for sedans today. Of course you have to rev it up, speed shift and be racing to get those numbers. A V6 Camry will beat those with a 6A, and get 29mpg on the highway.
Yes a 2022 Camry lmao. It only took 34 years! You can’t compare buddy. By today’s standards we already have reliable Biturbo Mercedes cracking 500-600hp without tunes AND we have V6 Biturbos cracking as high as 800hp reliably as found in F1
@@RegionalRadioShackManager I was hitting 60 in 5.7 in a 2011 camry actually. A friend has a '14RS7 with 600hp. I posted his 175mph vid.
A 2007 Cadillac Escalade will hit 60 from a standstill in 6.2 seconds. But no comparison. On another note, this Maserati's interior was a masterpiece.
A baby quattroporte. Which is Italian for four doors.
430 is a beast of a car
It’s Biturbo, as in bi-annual. It means two turbos for those who don’t understand.
It's as quick as a Bora! Damn!
Ah yes - back when luxury owners still appreciated driving - you never see manuals in luxury cars today
That last reliable car Maserati every made.
my boss back then had a 1984 Bi Turbo... 1-2 nd gear was a dog leg down, made it a real PITA to power shift!
Love the ape test guy push push prod prod
I still want to get my hands on a Biturbo.
It is still my favorite Masarati
Same here.
I'm going to sell mine soon. 84 with a bunch of mods to make it "reliable". You'll see it on Atlanta marketplace sooner than later.
I really wish these where not monumentally unreliable and prohibitively expensive to restore or maintain. I’d love to pick one up.
Quad square headlamps look good on anything
A perfect pair would be this 430 and an Alfa 75 3.0.
Dang! that small car was expensive and quite mediocre at 42,625 in 1988 is worth $100,455.92 in 2022.
Nice crisp design. I’m in SoCal I saw several biturbos but never the sedan.
from the "exclusive wristwatch school" of car manufacturing... Except this one is like a Piaget that stops telling time every two months or so.
Fun fact: this is the only time I've ever seen this running. Every other example Ive seen is engine swapped or rotting in a junkyard.
I feel like one if these with a j-swap/vq swap would be amazing
Not very good looking , until they lifted the hood . What a beautiful engine !
That engine sounds great.
Nothing about this car screams exotic. If I passed it on the road I would think it's nothing more than an old Honda Accord
A fast, troublesome little sedan that looks like an Accord humped a Cavalier. I love it in so many ways, but no surprise as to why it didn't sell big.
1982 Honda Accord front end, 1985 Nissan Stanza mid-section and 1986 BMW 3-series vibes from the rear. Not exactly a looker, then or now, definitely understated styling yet it has just enough elegant touches to let you know this is not an economy car. Due to rarity of all Maseratis from this era, the styling kind of works for me now. Those seats look sumptuous but are probably ergonomically terrible; the real wood is a nice touch for any car with luxury aspirations. This car's cabin has some really nice upscale custom finishes but also looks to be a collection of parts-bin bits and pieces, probably from Fiats I would guess. And, of course, the elephant in the room with any Italian car from the 1980s is the lack of reliability. The more luxury 'stuff', the more things can and will go wrong, dark or stop moving. Any car that makes a Jaguar seem like a Toyota is rough - I heard some real horror stories about these Maseratis and the later 2000s Quattroportes. Too bad, because I think they certainly made some interesting cars.
You nailed the description 👏🏾. That’s how I viewed it too. Looks like it was assembled from surplus bins of the aforementioned auto manufacturers.
Oi my DogLeg! I'd buy one just for the shift pattern. Very cool. But seriously good luck finding parts of any kind, much less a mechanic willing to take the risk of trying to install them
This is a nice looking sedan. Imo as I look at the camera angles, I think I see classic jag up front, Volvo on the side, and BMWish in the interior and the tail lights. Classic European. The engine is nice to see at I didn't say maintain though...lol. another great view by the crew.
I agree. If you see the car in person. But most people have never seen one in person and on video it genuinely looks like a Chevrolet Cavalier. Can't you see that?
@@624radicalham if I see it as a smaller car and depending on the camera angle...there is some Cavalier or maybe the Cadillac Cimarron. I think that's what it was called 🤔
@@dohc1067 Indeed, a Cadillac Cimarron. Or as you can find right here on old Motorweek shows, "The Cimarron. By Cadillac" lol ... epic fail with GM desperate for a way to market it. I do hate when this Maserati is compared to anything boxy in the 80's as it really had nothing to do with the lines on a Cavalier. But like some humans, this car is not photogenic and video makes it look run of mill when it in fact it was gorgeous in it's own right.
@@624radicalham You're right on everything you said. The review on the Maserati is definitely more interesting than the Cadillac, but I guess pretty much of them were kinda boxy. The Maserati cars I see are the sedans and coupes or convertibles otherwise it seems to be a rare breed niche I guess.
someone left a sound effect in at 3:16
That's the sound all cassetts made when you pulled them through the air like a ninja.
Either you didn't live in the cassette decades or you weren't ninja enough.
:p
94 Galant please!
I really hope they feature thie "94 galant" because you've been asking this for over a year
I think they never did a show on 94 Galant
LEGEND!
:)
With Maserati depreciation, they'll actually pay you to take this car.
Might as well burn your money. It'll be less hassle than putting up with an 80's turbocharged Maserati!
There must be ones of these on the road today🥸
I remember these from the DC auto show.
A beautiful interior 👍🏽
Looks like a bmw 3 series, bad year though my mom vassa past away on October 16 1988 from a brain aneurysm in her sleep and I was 16 years old which unfortunately I never got my driver's license until '98. Nice car though
Wasn't this victors car featured in the film "Beverly Hills Cop" not sure which sequel 1 or 2....
People actually said bee turbo?? No way
Well, that's the way the Italians say it (and almost all non-english speakers).
It's very simple: "bee turbo" is correct, "bye turbo" is wrong.
I've always said "bye," since that's how you pronounce "bi" in English.
How did it have so little power? 2.8l twin turbo v6 and only made 225hp? A 3L V6 NA SHO made 220hp the next year....
So looks like the engine was nerfed for US market emissions..... Still, 247hp out of European version isn't exactly earth shattering.
@@Henchman1977 "earth sharttering" and "nerfed" 😂😂😂😂😂
Meanwhile just a couple years later the Japanese made turbo 2.5/3.0 motors that blew this shit out the water😂😂😂🤣
@@JDMHaze I'm prone to hyperbole...
Good thing it wasn't 300. Would've blown earlier than it did
Carpathian Elm Burrell and terrible reliability are standard in this model
💢I've never even seen a Maserati that old😯
I love this car i thing this car has good handling for 1980s.
That price point….
Too bad they were never anything approaching reliable, I've seen a few for sale but of course not one of them was drivable without major work.
I think that Maserati exited the US market after the 1988 model year.
I have an '89 Maserati 430. I don't know if that was a true '89 or excess stock.
I was 1 years old in 88 🙂
Awesome
Nice looking engine.
Baloneya?
And Poo-Joe made a cameo too.
The only Maserati that you would be forgiven for mistaking it for a K Car
Chrysler TC by Maserati enters the chat.
@@mattdavis9601 hahaha, I totally forgot about that one
The reason this era of Maseratis looked more subtle had to do with all the kidnappings of wealthy Italians in the 1970s/1980s. Sort of similar to China today, flaunting wealth could attract the wrong attention.
Wtf lol. Not.
@@Porsche996driver I see we are grossly ignorant of history. Do some research. Geez.
Gorgeous interior but i bet it came apart and became ragged not long down the road
Front looks exactly like a Cimmaron lol.
Just the engine looks better then some cars and 5speed ! .
Looks like Toyota and Mitsubishi had a kid and Mercedes raised it
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I think they did the 505 the 85 Cressida and the 89 Cressida. And it's available now
@@1985toyotacamry I was thinking the same thing about the Cressida
The seats look so comfortable! 😍 But when you look at one now an all you see is Chrysler parts everywhere oops I mean Stellantis. 😒
Bellissima 👍🏻😎🤌🏻
I've never seen this car on the road, I guess it didn't break any sales records 😜
U guessed right
No, it just broke.