Age and attractiveness are salient factors, too. I'm doubting there would have been day-to-day coverage had Petito been older, homely, and significantly overweight.
Yes, it seems like it is not just whether you are white and a woman. Stories with very attractive college-aged girls or middle-aged trophy wives seem to be the most popular with the new media.
@hello1234 exactly. White women fit the beauty standards best and are very protected in our society, so therefore they face the most media coverage when gone missing. It’s not anyone’s fault but the media. And yea people could sit here and say “well there’s a higher white population, so of course the media will appeal to that” but that doesn’t mean the media shouldn’t give other cases as much attention
@@mistrjt9213 Opposite Jodi Arias, I hear you....It's interesting though cuz this guy did the complete opposite he ran she stayed and stayed made up a whole bunch of lies. I like to figure this stuff out too and I caught your reference.
Youth and beauty are powerful factors in our “concern” for a victim. I guarantee the first word people use when describing this case is; she was so “young” the second word is she was so “pretty.” As superficial is it sounds, we are more affected by something happening to young, beautiful people.
@@Macheako if you can't be called beautiful due to some gender expectations, you might be insecure. if i completely missed what your comment was saying, i might be an idiot.
@@Macheako you have a lot of people defending him on tik tok tho cuz the boyfriend is white and young too So people are saying they don’t think he’d do it Creepy and weird
In Canada, there have been literally thousands of missing and murdered Indigenous women. There was a national inquiry, but it took years of political pressure to prompt the Canadian government to conduct the inquiry. Whether the study will improve the situation remains to be seen.
This is true of msm, but there are many stories on youtube covering indigenous women in Canada & the states. Msm viewership has steadily been decreasing over the years, perhaps bcuz they’re to busy playing politics to cover the news we’re really interested in.
First of all, I want to say the tragedy with Gabby's death is horrible and unacceptable. No family should have to endure such pain. The controversy here is on the "media" - an external set of news reporting entities. Dr. Grande cited a well-known study on this topic. But as he noted, the research is limited and the FBI data was somewhat confounded. However, a more recent study was done by Dr. Danielle Slakoff on disparities in coverage of missing women based on ethnicity. Her research uncovered the feedback of one news reporter who blatantly told her they don't report missing women of color very often because they want high ratings - hence the focus on young, white women (particularly blondes). In summary, Dr. Slakoff's work reveals large disparities in coverage biased against women of color. To be fair, there are counterexamples. I have noticed that John Walsh has dedicated many news segments to people of color - not just young white women. In addition, David Paulides covers many cold cases long forgotten throughout the world. He even uncovered one I had not heard of in rural AZ where I am from. I would encourage Dr. Grande to review Dr. Slakoff's work or perhaps collaborate with her as a colleague in the field.
@@thebikehippie6562 None? I've read that Gabby only had 600 followers before this tragedy, only added 100 folds after her death. The impact of this tragedy on social media however is greater than expected. I was a little surprised myself as well that the mainstream media are also reporting on this widely.
What a great way to bring up this topic in a tasteful and respectful way without disrespecting Gabbie or creating malice toward her. That’s a tight rope to walk and you did so perfectly! :)
@@keonblizzy3706 lol imagine any of those popular black people who never mentioned any of this crap mentioning any of this crap even once. yet they dont... unless of course they can paint it as a "white people bad" issue. Am I responsible for your safety? Am I responsible for those missing black people? Am I responsible for not giving a flying fugg about black people who are missing due to other black people kidnapping, murdering etc. them? Who am I, God? Take care of your own business you pathetic racist.
for me, the case is interesting only because there's video footage of her being alive and "well" in a situation where it's directly connected to her death.
One word -> marketing. Can you market this missing person(s) case? Having plenty of video footage makes that possible, otherwise, you have a 1-day storyline.
Yeah, it's like a Black Mirror episode gone wrong, so much video & social media stuff about them then the internet also tries to help find her using the internet as well? Its surreal.
same; also a couple of other details were really interesting to me: 1. the dude running away 2. his parents’ behavior, and 3. the sliver of hope that she was still alive
No this is sadistic abuse of her life & 'Ted Bundy Syndrome'. Nobody cares about victims at all, this is about one person only Brain, he did this on purpose to get all the focus to be on him so it is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' there are plenty of RUclips videos with young beautiful blonde women who are drug addicts wandering homeless in the streets but nobody cares about them, this is exactly the perception of Gabby. The whole reason behind Brians total destruction of all her efforts was to reduce her to this type of spectacle which is exactly the same as the spectacle of recording young blonde attractive drug addicts wandering around it is all misogynistic schadenfreude perpetrated by men & women alike & Brian knows this*. I need to finish your video but I would be surprised if you really believe that she has any advantages over any minorities considering she is dead & all her dreams completely obliterated this is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' because nobody cares about her *they enjoy the sadistic aspects of how she was treated by Brain all of these advertising dollars are because of Brian not Gabby. Brian knew he would murder her & create this spectacle *not Gabby*. Please dont blame already & tbh eternally marginalized abused tortured women *for the attention seeking hysterics of a garbage psychopath like Brain. Nobody will ever give a damn what she wanted to do with her life, (ever, do you? to you she's just a white woman so you fell for his bs) it is all Brain the loser psychopath. Brain is the one who created this & advertising dollars for you -- not her, don't blame her. You should re-do this or delete it it is uncharecteristic of your more empirical insights.
Good lord, this is a quality, balanced take. You never cease to amaze, Dr. Your humble, analytical perspective is greatly appreciated. And your jokes are subtle and more engaging than an alligator 🐊 Thanks again
Dr. Grande- thx for crediting others in your vids. Here it’s journalist Gwen Ifill coining phrase [or “syndrome]. Her international coverage and analyses were always in-depth. RIP Gwendolyn Ifill
Agreed the clarity and factual nature of Dr. Grande’s presentation is greatly appreciated. However he is also perpetuating what is “A News Story” aka a driver of political agendas. Dr. Grande thinks critically, yet as if propaganda news is fact. Let’s learn from Dr. Grande and go deeper with critical thinking to evaluate the authenticity or agenda of News story selection. In some instances like Justin Smollett an actor who claimed he was attacked in Chicago by white supremacists when it turned out the event was a staged political lie, run 24/7 on CNN. The city of Chicago sued Justin Smollett for wasting and diverting police resources away from people (including black citizens) who actually need it, for an expensive perjured farce.
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I am glad that you’re talking about this. We care for young people getting abused and killed, not matter the color of the skin. You and the news industry should talk about all people that in the same predicament no matter what color of the skin or how many ratings. You Dr. Grande should do more research about people of color, however, I as a spectator, take responsibility also. I was into this story not because of alligators, I just stunned to see a beautiful woman with so much to offer to the world kook up to this man. What I was more surprised is to find out that she got bitt up and she still cries when she was told not to be with him. We need to educate our children when they are little to walk away from this type of relationships. But this is something we never think is going to happen to us. He was not only not supported of her, of what she was doing, but he put her down. The way his family behaved was also chocking. I really hope they pay for it. He is a coward and a lot of other things I cannot write. God bless her family. RIP
The fact that he just showed up back home from a trip without her and didn't say a word made it a mystery to solve. And then there are so many photos and videos of her alive and happy on this trip, that draw you in, you feel like you know her, you can imagine what she was like, being young, on this adventure, that kept the story going and people wondering why didn't her boyfriend talk. But what a nightmare for her family, as more and more ugly details come out. There are some things the public don't need to know. Especially when Gabby isn't here to speak up for herself.
400 native women went missing in the same spot, not one of their cases was covered. Gabby was only covered because she was white, blonde, female and attractive. The media should also cover other people with the same intensity, it would solve thier cases too. Stop deluding yourself that this was covered for anyone other reason than what Gabby looked like, of course I do not blame Gabby's family for getting coverage to solve the case, however the same luxuries should be afforded to other people who are not white and pretty and female.
The same feeling can easily be achieved from the reporting of any missing person. In the video, he mentioned all the points of interest, failing to realise, that other missing person cases will also have their story to tell. Gaby Petito is not unique.
@@pedroalmodovar1323 you are right, but it’s ridiculous not to even acknowledge the specific circumstances and all of the video and photo evidence make it a very compelling mystery. To say “for no other reason than she was white” is over simplifying. To tell someone they are deluded because they find it interesting and can understand why others are interested is juvenile and ignorant. It’s almost as if you didn’t watch the video, or you have been so victimized by the rampant racism in this country that it has informed your entire perspective and you aren’t doing yourself any favors.
@Kitty Kelly Did you just say Natives shouldn't expect the same amount of coverage because they live in the United States and that's somehow a "white" country? You're either trolling or some lame red piller
@Kitty Kelly I bet my left one you're "A high value alpha male anti-simp that just happened to take the red pill" I'll be my right one "That the high value alpha male" still lives with his mom.
He forgot to mention overweight and less attractive people don't get much media attention if they go missing. One reason might be that those people are less likely targeted, but they do go missing.
stephen darcy. an overweight white person still gets more coverage than a pretty Black girl. a look at the coverage Mitrice Richardson got compared to the well nourished caucasians during and after the month she went missing should tell you sum.
@@Macheako Also harder to transport, hide, bury or otherwise dispose of.🤔🤔🤔 And anybody trying to pull an Ariel Castro 10+ year imprisonment would be eaten out of house and home.
It was the shock that the cops couldn’t bring him in for questioning. Here he was back with his missing girlfriends van and yet the cops couldn’t touch him! That’s just messed up! And his parents wouldn’t say anything and they ignored Gabbys parents phone calls... what we were seeing was a heartless family letting another family remain in hell wanting to know what happen to their daughter! The case has disturbed a lot of people, just thinking of what sort of family Brian comes from. And how the cops have no power!
It's not messed up, it's how the system works. If more people exercised their 5th amendment rights then the cops would have a much harder time at doing their job. But most people are ignorant of their rights and many wind up incriminating themselves, basically handing the cops everything they need. People have been brainwashed into thinking that if they get a lawyer too soon then it makes them look guilty, so they volunteer information that CAN and WILL be used AGAINST them. Miranda rights exist for a reason, and the cops/investigators are never your friend. Their goal is always to find cracks in your armor/story. So your best option is to not say a word, make them do their job.
@@AmbientShades sorry he has no rights he was last to see her. All they need do is have third party follow him They hire undercover detectives that may had minor crime because more likely find bad people. He does not need to talk people who saw him can give statements on behavior look
I think it got more coverage because they were caught on the police cam. It makes it more personal and we feel like we have a connection to the victim. Also, she looked scared in the footage, and many people are saying she was possibly abused by the partner. My opinion, of course.
@@leemcr1894 It will always be brought up because of the same media that’s promoting her story. Divisiveness and race baiting is apart of our culture. It’s pathetic.
I agree , also the Jenkins case went viral two years ago. The drunk girl that wandered into the hotel’s freezer and couldn’t get out. It took the police a good 24 hrs or so to review footage of the hotel. I believe it was Keneka Jenkins? Correct me if I am wrong.
@@leemcr1894 Good point, Lee. We should never talk about matters that involve an obvious history of white supremacy when a pretty white woman goes missing...or any time really.
Dr. Grande!! You were my professor during my CMHC program from 2012-2015 at Wilmington U. Look at you go!! I love hearing your perspective on these “in the media” cases! Great content 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I’m thinking perhaps the more popular stories of middle class white women ( not sure they all fall under the UPPER middle class category ), could be due to the fact that , oddly, there are more of them than in any “minority” demographic ,which by definition, contains fewer women in general? 🙄 Also, I think the more psychological factors in any case, makes it more intriguing to the public, i.e. more of an actual “ mystery” makes it more appealing?
His mental aggression & he comes home on her van , lawyers up & she’s dead of homicide! Now he’s missing & in regards to Gabby , he’s only a ‘person of interest’ ?? If they were married , would this not be handled differently ? She’s dead & the entire family is untouchable .
Removing all other aspects that feed the narrative, the fact that there was an hour long body worn police video posted online in the middle of the search for the two individuals is enough for it to have exploded. There aren’t that many cases where so much information is available to the public WHILE the investigation is taking place. People love to consume true crime media, period. When you’re able to consume it live as the event is happening it’s like the holy grail. That’s why cases like this and the Chris Watts case are so popular.
Yeah I was thinking about the Chris Watts case too. Shannan had so much online and then the body cam while he was virtually getting caught in his lies was great.
Sure, fair enough, but all the factors Dr. G mentioned still play into why this hour long body cam footage was released when it was. The police take many many many hours of body cam and dash cam footage. What gets released early or leaked? And why?
@@drebk Regardless of why it was released, if there is no video of other cases to release to the media or the person is not part of some new fad movement (vanlife) with an online presence, you want the police to invent the material so that other cases get as much coverage as Gabby Petito? Ive been seeing vanlife videos online for two years now. Its quite trendy. And not everyone doing vanlife is white, either.
So true. Thank you. My niece has been missing for weeks, we know she's dead. Shes a mom but because she has a record and struggled with addiction nobody gives a crap. Blip in the news paper is all she is or was... my family just doesn't understand why nobody cares, I understand perfectly. She had to call the cops on her boyfriend right before she disappeared. I'm sure he killed her. Id actually like to share her name to honor her (even though I like staying anonymous online) Her name is Kari Campbell. She is missing from the Fredericton area. New Brunswick, Canada It's been outrageous. You amaze me with your currently relevant topics
Being pretty is part of the equation but it only goes so far. One of the main elements is that we have a known suspect that's on the run. When that happens, it's often shared in local media. Police ask for help finding suspects in my area all the time and gets thousands of shares. The reason why it's national news though is because it spanned half of the United States so he could have been anywhere in between Montana and Florida. People are always quick to try to hunt a known suspect down. This is much different than most of the other missing persons cases where no one knows what happened or if there's a suspect. Can't exactly hunt someone down in that scenario. It also helps that they had a large online presence and there's lots of video footage to share.
I would like to add that "pretty girls" are less likely to be believed in cases of sexual abuse. They are often blamed as somehow causing it. Our society really needs to get over themselves and their biases in all directions.
This is a very good example of your thoughtful ability to provide valuable timely analysis. You are correct in that the abundance of photos and video in this case has contributed to the understandable public interest. One other factor that may be at play is the glaring disparity between the joyous images Miss Petito was posting and the sad reality of the dangerous toxic relationship with Brian Laundrie. Thank you Dr Grande.
@Bruce Thompson.... exactly. Some of the most heart wrenching stories I have heard have come from the show "I survived" where the storues may not have received media coverage because the victim survives... but just their stories are inspiring & they get to tell their story... which is hopefully therapeutic for them.
I’m Native American and Vietnamese mixed. Doctor Grande, this case has absolutely hit me In the heart. Gabby is so beautiful. Had her whole life ahead of her. She was a fellow woman and also a fellow van lifer. I’ve been feeling for her but hurt at the same time because my own people do not get this same coverage. In fact, I have many friends who’ve gone missing from my reservation and other reservations near AND they’re nearly never found. i appreciate you talking about this toPic Dr Grande. I felt bad for feeling the way I did but I know feel like my feelings are absolutely valid. We’ve had a few missing and murdered indigenous women who had had coverage. Savannah Greywind being one of them. However, I believe it was due to the severity of her case. Her poor baby was ripped from her poor mothers body while she was still alive. I hope that we can find a solution to get everyone the coverage everyone needs. Every race matters.
What a beautiful attitude you have in regards to this. White women definitely tend to get more media coverage, but the answer really isn't to give them less coverage. Gabby was murdered, so clearly the family needed (needs) coverage and help. However, media needs to run the same kind of coverage when other ethnicities are missing and murdered.
I think that the van life angle also has something to do with the media frenzy. Van life and nomadic living are trendy hot button things rn, and this is the horror story version
Of course, the media wants to portray everything as dangerous, especially living off the grid. Can't have too many people chucking off the shitty job, endless debt train.
Yes, I think a lot of young people glamorize living in a van and making money by posting on the internet. Gabby certainly did. This story really shows that living like a free spirit does not make you problem free.
After Megan The Stallion was shot in the foot, I remember someone saying, "can you imagine how different the media coverage would be if it had been Taylor Swift"?
That's not a fair comparison. Taylor Swift's is incredibly more famous then Megan the stallion. Plus Taylor plays up the sweet girl act. Megan does not
I think the general "newsworthiness" element is key - which is basically your last point. Here in the UK a story about an old woman beaten in her home by intruders often makes front page news (at least in the tabloid press). As a result, older people often believe crime against them is a major thing. But it is front page because it is rare, but horrible. In the UK statistics show that most victims of crime are actually young men between the ages of 18-25 - but crimes against them are hardly ever reported because it happens all the time.
@gerard dearie I wouldn't classify the guardian as upper class. More middle income, but there also special mention to metro and Evening standard for those of us who can't afford to buy a newspaper
Dr. Grande just landed a burning plane. Thank you for being able to highlight the disproportionate media coverage of missing people while also managing not to diminish Gabby’s case as well. :)
I’m not sure who you’re saying is diminishing the Gabby case. People who have been disproportionately affected her just stating that. They’re not saying that the young lady doesn’t deserve to have attention or anything like that. I think there is a deeper problem than what is discussed here that’s for certain
@@AnotherTruth They kind of are saying that, since there is a finite amount of airwave coverage possible and a limited amount of information we can possibly consume. It is, to an extent, a zero sum game. So, of both necessity and choice, we focus.
@@AnotherTruth Anecdotally, I have seen multiple people who have some pretty unsavoury takes about Gabby’s death that have boiled down for blaming her for what happened. It’s sad that people think that way. But there is also the issue of how these missing persons cases should be covered and how one missing person can take priority over another. It’s unfortunate. I definitely agree with you though, there are many issues that have arisen from Gabby’s case that cannot be simplified into one 10 minute video,
I like how you talk about a subject people are fighting about all over Twitter with such clearness and sincerity, you don’t sugarcoat anything but you say it in a respectful way. I need to learn how to do that as well. Great video as always Dr. Grande.
Hi Dr. Grande! I wrote my dissertation regarding gender differences in intimate partner violence. I specifically looked at the differences in the most severe form of partner violence, intimate partner homicide (IPH). As you know, it’s best practice to use recent studies to guide your research. I had absolutely no problem finding research articles about male homicide offenders within the past five years. When I researched women, I had to go back to 1985 to gather at least 10 articles regarding female IPH offenders. The dearth of literature regarding female IPH offenders is severely disappointing. It’s as if they assumed “women rarely kill, let’s ignore this area of research.” In my research I came across a couple of interesting findings. Mostly, it is difficult for juries to convict women for crimes, as they feel that it must have occurred for self-defense reasons. Jurors are more likely to view the woman as a victim rather than being truly abusive. Conversely, women who were considered to be masculine were more likely to be labeled as violence perpetrators because they’re more similar to men. The more “manly” they are, the leas sympathy they receive. These women are likely to be seen as violent because they don’t exhume softness and victimhood. Second, intimate partner homicide is hard to predict. There have been many studies of homicidal men who have never abused their partner. That is to say, past abuse does not predict future homicidality. Men without violent background have killed their partners. There were two possible predictors in the literature: controlling behavior and stalking. I’m the studies men were found to have stalked their partner before the abuse or had great control in the relationship. Once the man lost control of his partner, he “snaps” and kills her. Speaking of “snapping”, that’s mostly not a thing. Although men reported that they “snapped” they also described slowly justifying the killing of their partner during the days and months before the homicide. Convicted men reported believing that laying hands on a woman is bad, yet they committed a homicide. The justification process allows the person to not feel disturbed by their thoughts and future behavior. Lastly, while there is very little research on family annihilated and it’s mostly about men. If I recall correctly, this was 5 years ago, there may have been some be or two articles that included women. I’m assuming this hasn’t changed much. I was going to post the comment about the controlling behavior in your Brian Laundrie video, but forgot. 🤦🏻♀️ Thanks Dr. Grande!
A very interesting post. I would be interested to see a comparison between IPH partners who have a long history of being physically abusive, and those that don't. I suppose there could be any number of factors as to why the historically abusive don't wind actually killing their partners. There is a very wide gap between laying hands on someone and doing enough of anything to cause death. So in some ways it isn't particularly surprising, although it does seem to run counterintuitive. One might assume they are related, but giving it some more thought... that assumption doesn't make much sense
You present a very interesting analysis. Another aspect is Brian’s silence. Most people who kill their partners are anxious to tell their side of the story. To make it appear justified. But Brian has shown remarkable restraint and planning. This is in itself unusual. Also there appears to be a reasonable support group assisting Brian. This is unusual as well. Thank you for your honest presentation.
Totally, the way Brian is avoiding punishment and so many around him are seemingly supporting him is a good 50% of the attention here. It is unique. The other 50%, IMO, is the social media side. Lots of young people with the same dreams as Gabby and Brian are indentifying with this.
The cops had a deep respect for Brian's rights, so much that he became a fugitive even though it was within their rights to have him followed. Would this have been allowed to happen had Brian been black?
The question is: How many women have gone missing within the timeframe Petito was missing? While the whole country was focused on one person, how many snuck right by?
@@drbqqq1433 That's what you think? There are countless missing persons who police refuse to take reports on or wait too long to do so when it's usually already too late to find them alive.
Dr Grande, a lot of media outlets are today talking about this missing white woman syndrome being an issue but are ironically not looking at themselves in the mirror and are still not reporting on missing non-whites. I love your channel and would love to see your channel make that change and make more of a concious effort to report on missing people and crimes against non-whites.
My understanding is that Dr. Grande reads all of the comments on every video he uploads, i think he enjoys the interactive discussions as much as his subscribers do. Imo, social media influencers should take a lesson from Dr. Grande by trying to keep a level head, upload topics daily, consistently work hard and especially try not to take life so seriously!
That is something I’ve found everywhere people are complaining about this problem. They provide nothing specific for us to hold onto to change our evil ways. If there’s a crushing need to talk about other unsolved cases with evidence out there to be evaluated by all, tell us which ones and let’s get the discussions started, by all means. I’ve heard a lot of blamey language and not a lot of work being put into to laying out those cases. I agree that coverage of POC cases may be lacking, so who’s on it? Anyone can start a RUclips channel.
I love Dr. Grande as well but I was expecting an admission that his content could feature more people of color as well and that he would make an effort to change this. I'm not saying that he doesn't but I think he could feature more. 100% agreed
Dr. Grande, I usually don’t comment on RUclips videos. However, I find your videos compelling and informative. Thank you for providing great content on a regular basis!
I think the fact they had a YT channel documenting their van life travels had a lot to do with this one. I think it brings awareness to some young people that social media highlight reels aren't always what they seem.
I think this is most of it. There is something intriguing to people about this case. Mentally they identify with her. Maybe they too want to travel and make money through social media. I think, say, a black couple who had this same story would have drawn the same attention. All it takes is one person to make a TikTok video that somehow causes people to identify with the story and boom! Also the fact that Brian is being so supported by others, who are seemingly reasonable people. Why? It is so unique.
Their IG and tiktoks had quite a few followers before Gabby stopped posting, but unfortunately only one video exists on her YT. She really would have been a great travel vlogger, and I think people saw her dedication to the work/craft. They were technically 'public figures', which is why their case had more info/imagery/traction. Obviously, their whiteness and youth played into the palatability of the story, but I think it's so much more complex than that.
@@alohaXamanda Actually she didn't have alot of followers prior to her disappearance. She had maybe 600 followers on Instagram before missing. It wasn't until she garnered media attention that her followers went up significantly.
@@heatherberry640 it’s scary to think about Ofc I’m on guard all the time experienced some weird things with men but also I know if I went missing it wouldn’t be a national headline.
Since the black man was killed by a police officer in the USA, there are hardly any white people in adverts in Britain, even though most people in Britain outside of London are white,
Gabby was beautiful, blonde, blue eyed, cheerful looking, and had a lovely smile. She also looked fragile. Its not surprising to me that she garnered so much attention. Its not fair though. Every missing person should matter.
Yes! This is the confluence of two very popular video subjects namely van life and true crime! Each group ( and I'm sure that they overlap)has thousands if not millions of fans who hang on every development!
Bingo! I am a part of the "van life" community (which is massive and international), and this gained so much traction from the start within the community. The media picked it up from there. They will go where the attention goes.
@Derek No need to be disrespectful! Why are you calling van life people losers? That’s a decent life style like any other. You’d be surprised how successful some of these people are. It’s not all about money…you know. Stop being such a sad soul…
I’ve been following true crime for many year and I’m quite a bit surprised by how this one blew up the way it has. I find the concept of a “white woman syndrome” interesting. I think #2 and #3 were fairly accurate. Think about it, all of our childhood stories are about white characters so, our brains are shaped early for this paradigm. But in the grand scheme of things, how does it change? We all have to independently realize that human nature is the same no matter the outer shell and evil is all around us.
@@MrRickywallace that is called being prejudice, just like anybody else. "Reverse racism" is such an odd term, that it doesn't even make logical sense. What is the reverse of anything? Answer: its antithesis or opposite. So the reverse of of racism wouldn't be... racism towards a different group. Just say that individual person is being prejudice.
Exactly, it's because there's a wanted person involved in this and they haven't found him yet. The same isn't true for most other missing persons cases. In those cases they don't know who the suspects are or what happened.. the hunt isn't as defined
I wasn’t a follower but wasn’t she in the social media? Didn’t she already have a following? I don’t take away a “white women syndrome from this I take away the hidden factors of domestic abuse! I see an example of how obvious she was in distress from her abuser and it was overlooked! I am sorry if a grown women is crying I. The streets something is wrong that is common sense
@@oliveslices This is super interesting, and I think that's one of the big undertones of this whole "syndrome" hey? That the white woman upholds the classic and popularised Western standard of beauty, and so in turn, more people may find them attractive, thus media overwhelmingly cover the case. What do you think?
Dr. Grande, you're on fire with the relevant content. 🔥 I'm glad Gabby is getting attention but there is a discrepancy. Realistically, It's just not possible to cover everyone, but I do wish the media cared more about missing people of color and missing men. Thanks for discussing this, Dr. Grande, and in such a reasonable and tasteful manner. 👍
No this is sadistic abuse of her life & 'Ted Bundy Syndrome'. Nobody cares about victims at all, this is about one person only Brain, he did this on purpose to get all the focus to be on him so it is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' there are plenty of RUclips videos with young beautiful blonde women who are drug addicts wandering homeless in the streets but nobody cares about them, this is exactly the perception of Gabby. The whole reason behind Brians total destruction of all her efforts was to reduce her to this type of spectacle which is exactly the same as the spectacle of recording young blonde attractive drug addicts wandering around it is all misogynistic schadenfreude perpetrated by men & women alike & Brian knows this*. I need to finish your video but I would be surprised if you really believe that she has any advantages over any minorities considering she is dead & all her dreams completely obliterated this is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' because nobody cares about her *they enjoy the sadistic aspects of how she was treated by Brain all of these advertising dollars are because of Brian not Gabby. Brian knew he would murder her & create this spectacle *not Gabby*. Please dont blame already & tbh eternally marginalized abused tortured women *for the attention seeking hysterics of a garbage psychopath like Brain. Nobody will ever give a damn what she wanted to do with her life, (ever, do you? to you she's just a white woman so you fell for his bs) it is all Brain the loser psychopath. Brain is the one who created this & advertising dollars for you -- not her, don't blame her. You should re-do this or delete it it is uncharecteristic of your more empirical insights.
Yes, the media like Joy Reid could be covering more stories of missing women and the murder of women of color. I find it disingenuous of Joy to be saying this since I cannot recall a story about women of color that she has covered. It's race baiting at its worst. She comes off as jealous that a white girl is getting attention.
@@quantumfineartsandfossils2152 it's Brian, and this story wouldn't get nearly the press if Gabby was plain-looking. You're right that people don't care as much about attractive junkies and hookers, but it's because they judge them as being less worthy of their attention. That is shallow, of course, but you can bet that while people can be very deep individually, as a group we will always dwell on the surface of the media. There's just too much information for most people to research stories that aren't ready-made narrative sammiches.
@TheHouseOfGames4 If Joy Reid made it her personal mission to promote the stories of unattractive and otherwise disadvantaged missing women and girls, she'd be well loved and poorly paid.
I am in England and I was disturbed by this case. Having thought about why I felt emotional about it, I came to the conclusion that it was how vulnerable she was. It was the police stop video that hit this home for me, she was so naive and willing to blame herself. I don’t believe it’s anything to do with race, this kind of difficulty in relationships is all around us. Thanks for your analysis.
It is about race in the states. Because missing people of color do not receive this level of media attention. It is usually reserved for young missing white women. It is ok to recognize the disparity in media coverage.
Completely agree with you. That footage of Gabby talking to the Utah police officer-and her RUclips video allowed us to see her when she was alive, and so upset etc. Some people feel like they knew personally her as a result. I also think this case is massive because Brian has come back without her and then taken off, hiding. People WANT him to be found and justice served. With many other murdered women/men/etc cases, we don’t see them suffering before hand-when we do-sometimes their case becomes massive, like the black man George Floyd that was murdered by the policeman having his knee on the guys neck-we saw him vulnerable and alive-and then he died- tragically. The Jodi Arias trial was also huge, her murdering Travis Alexander the way she did was also a very big media story, and rightly so. The police footage of her denying any knowledge of murdering Travis etc. We saw his friends talking about the way she had been stalking him etc. Very Sad for anyone that has a family member or friend murdered.
@@jimskeuh IF ONLY it was just a novel, except that this is reality, a real 22 yr old woman is DEAD, apparently murdered, by a person she was engaged to, and her family bury her on Sunday without answers. Bet they wish it was just a novel or a movie too.
I think of you look up the number of murdered and missing indigenous women in the same area as Gabby went missing, you'd see why people are talking about race. There have been public calls for years asking for more resources into looking up why indigenous women go missing and are murdered at much, much higher rates then any other race in the USA. Its not to take away from Gabby's tragic story, but its something to examine and not just push away.
I think one reason this case is so prominent is it involves a couple of "van lifers," even though they were just starting out and had few vlogs. Blogging van lifers are hugely popular now especially since the movie "Nomadland" came out. I follow at least a dozen and have for 1 1/2 years. When I heard about Gabby it caught my interest because she was on the road. The new nomads are a very tight community. There are built out vans everywhere now. I hope they find Laundrie and the truth comes out.
It's probably not that it's in missing person's syndrome is just that it's a person not wanting to report syndrome. And white women seem to be much more in my mind classically acceptable of abuse. I have to say that I am a white woman with four domestic violence charges but have a drinking problem. I do not see many white women being charged in court. And yeah... I know I'm putting myself out there. I am the minority meaning that I am a white woman and I'm getting so nobody would be thinking that I would do it but I am completely innocent and the women who are innocent guilty. I'm AM NOT PROUD I'M JUST SAYING I AGREE WITH YOUR PERSONALITY ALIGNMENT.
I don’t think there’s such a thing as ‘over coverage’ of a missing person. The problem is the under coverage of the other cases. I too noticed that Gabby was white and thought to myself, I bet people will think something of this… but that doesn’t mean I hoped people would stop covering her story. We as the public cannot help what the journalists cover, and honestly I do not understand why they don’t cover all the missing cases, except like you said, when they have more interesting aspects, like mysterious circumstances.
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Coverage is a zero sum game. There is only so much time and resources available to news organizations so what they do cover does say something about us as a society because journalists want to cater to what they believe most people will want.
Thank you for bringing this to the attention of your viewers. The number of indigenous (native American and First Nations) women missing is especially horrific. Apparently no one is keeping good track of the numbers, and we hardly ever hear about them in the popular media.
Dr. Grande is ON IT again! Interesting to follow him as the Petito-Laundrie case unfolds in real time. Maybe it would be helpful for him to feature some of the other missing person cases. He’s so good at putting information together, and with his growing fan base, perhaps presenting some of these unsolved missing cases might give them a broader platform and a better chance at being found. You just never know. If sparking interest in these cases helps just one person, it would be so worth it.
Here’s my analysis, Joy Reid could do her own coverage of missing black females with the platform she has available. Instead of that she plays the race bait card. I’m guessing that lines her own pockets more effectively than practicing what she’s preaching.
Not saying her age/beauty has nothing to do with it but this case is quite unique and very dramatic with Brian’s behaviour/body cam footage etcetera. US has around 3000 missing person cases every year a very small number gets any attention even though a lot of them is white people. Probably has more to do with the unusual circumstances in this case.
@@michaellykke100 I’m not guessing about the part where she could use her available platform to report on missing black females instead of race baiting. Does she care or not about missing black women? Simple question. Me making a guess as to why she is not using her platform to do so is my theory and I’m entitled to it just like anyone is entitled to believe you can identify as a dinosaur or badminton racket. I think one of the two thoughts is more grounded in reality but again, everyone is entitled to their stances.
It’s not about race as much as perceived “attractiveness”. In my life I’ve seen numerous missing persons cases and regardless of their race, they were all attractive. The media can keep a 24 news cycle going on a case about a pretty female because it keeps the publics attention.
True but then the question becomes: who is the beauty standard in America and/or television? It comes right back to white women. Which is also why people don't care for missing men of any race.
@@PardonMyPresence Maybe so but again even on most youtube's about this you still see many black and Latin men and women throwing in their theories and sympathies about Gabby. Which goes back to that there is a standard of beauty in America and evidently most people consciously or subconsciously feel it's a hot young blonde You don't see many brunettes making the big news outlets either. OR one theory we may be missing is the dumb blonde/most women's biggest rival. Be Nicole Brown, Natalie Holloway, Gabby Petito, etc they all are very attractive, way too trusting, and do things the rest of us probably wouldn't do. Factor that in that most hot young blondes can likely wreck any marriage in America perhaps you could also argue that most women deep down enjoy hearing about their suffering subconsciously.
Once my black uncle was talking with his black-friend neighbors. The subject of a mutual friend came up about a new girlfriend. The question was asked again about whether the new girlfriend was pretty. Apparently agitated that the guy wasn't paying attention, my uncle repeats what the friend said: "He said that she was white." Yeah, attractiveness can be associated with skin color, especially if the skin color is no color, I guess, "white."
🤦🏾♂️But the MWW narrative is incorrect. Gabby Petito was a social media celebrity. Also her story (the weird circumstances of disappearance) is what made her case take off. It wasn't because she was just a "white woman". Plenty of white women disappear and no one hear about them.
@@hus390 How was she a social media celebrity? Her RUclips channel has one video on it and the majority of her subs came after her disappearance. I’m not saying this to be mean, I seriously don’t understand how she would even be considered an influencer much less a celebrity.
Well also she’s a major influencer that other influencers organically brought focus and attention to the case because they genuinely cared about one of their own.
@@BrandonJohnson-bx1ht Don't know if she was a "major" influencer, I had never heard of her before ... but that comment by her bf about her "little blog" was pretty telling. It doesn't take much these days to get a decent following, especially if you're cute and perky. That "dis" by someone supposedly close to you speaks volumes.
@@yx534 I think it has more to do with her featuring her life on social media on a daily basis. It happened basically in real time and for the social media population to see. That coupled with body cam footage, 911 calls, multiple witnesses, and other very visible events. Most missing and murdered people have not virtually left such exposure in real time. Do I think missing white women syndrome exists, absolutely, but this case isn't an example of one in my opinion. Many other reasons this is so covered
I think the term itself, “missing white girl syndrome” is a terrible expression that demeans the victims of these crime and women in general. It suggests a missing person who is missing because of their own hysteria rather than the act of a criminal. The differential news reporting phenomenon is a horse of a different color and an insectional analysis leads to some interesting social observations and connotations.
To quote a comment I read when this case first broke: "She's a cutie. I hope she's okay." In this particular case, I do feel there are factors that have contributed to the huge media coverage and public outcry/interest that go beyond race. But the fact remains that most people feel more sympathy for their own in-group than for those outside of it (please don't start the "not-me" stuff -- you know what I mean). My own mother (a "christian") admitted she cares more about endangered white children than about those of "other people."
Everyone already knows this, and with your history what your mom said is really a no Brainer. The thing you won't admit though is that it goes beyond "in group" favoritism, it's much more sinister.
All of modern culture is skewed and biased towards the Great White Man-stay overly proud, or stay overly humbled. I’m glad I do my own research. It not only enlightened me, but gave me humility.
Unfortunately it's just an instinctual hard wired aspect of our being. In group-preference. The best we can do is be aware of it and do our best to divide our attention as equally as possible but you can't control what people care about. Though there's a LOT about this case which makes it interesting aside from Gabby being young, white and attractive.
Why can’t we just care about endangered people period who really gives af what race they are. They’re HUMANS! Jesus Christ I swear this world will forever be in shit.
I feel like this case is different in that Gabby was part of the online "influencer" crowd and it was those people that realized something was wrong and the story took hold on social media which lead to news outlets picking it up. Gabby was documenting their trip and people were following their movements...when everything stops before the trip has concluded, it sent up red flags. Social media puts a lot of garbage out there, but it can be very powerful when it comes together for a particular cause.
@@gardenwonder7977 People also send him requests asking him to do case analysis regarding certain people and topics both new and old. He discusses a lot of "hot topics" and I wouldn't doubt that he made this video in response to the whole "White Woman Syndrome" drama that is going around versus simply trying to make $$$. To think $ wouldn't be a perk of making any video would be pretty ignorant. He's not the first to make multiple videos, but at least he does it with objectivity and isn't trying to sensationalize it.
The documentation, the social media following that Gabby had is obvious why this has received so much attention, it's like a movie playing out before us. Humans are interested in tragedy
Everything has multiple reasons of course but her being young white and beautiful and also middle class is one of them bc it makes her relatable to a certain demographic that is considered the norm in this country
@@jaybradshaw7900 I know and understand that, I believe her race still plays a part , but all of the footage surrounding her death does also. We have body cam footage from police officers watching her cry. We have her last texts and posts . I think this case is interesting because we can hear and see in actual video that something is terribly wrong.
Thank you for pointing out the many aspects that make a case “interesting” to the media, I couldn’t agree more. I think any time a case has elements that are common to the human experience such as love, relationships, and obviously alligators 😂, that will certainly attract a lot of attention. Many young woman could have been in Gabby’s shoes since unstable relationships are not that uncommon for people at this age. The fact that we can relate at some level to the case, will certainly make it extremely appealing to the public. Your analysis was on point as always, thank you! ❤️
This case was only covered because Gabby was an attractive white blonde female. 400 other women all of Native American descent went missing in the same area, all with different circumstances. Not one was covered. This case hit the jackpot because she checked all the boxes FEMALE, WHITE, BLONDE, and ATTRACTIVE. For you to deny it is absurd and shows your white privilege. When you can not even admit something so obvious it just shows the rest of us how hateful this society is geared toward anyone outside of the ideal. You are trying to lump in alligators as if it fed into the frenzy. This was a case about a virginal looking white woman, and nothing more.
You know, other missing person cases will also have their own points of interest, and story to tell. Gaby Petito is not special in that regard. Emphasising the particular features in her case, to explain or justify the media coverage, is symptomatic of Missing White Woman Syndrome.
@@pedroalmodovar1323 My white privilege?🤔 FYI, I am not white and I am an immigrant. Even still, I don’t think this case is a missing white woman syndrome.
Dr. Grande, thank you for an excellent job addressing this issue. You noted that many consider bad things happening to minorities as part of the norm, while similar events occurring to non-minorities is seen with concern and is considered unusual. Similarly, minorities who suffer pain and illnesses in hospitals express complaints that are not taken seriously, often to their demise.
This is all we’re trying to say! The newsrooms that report these crimes focus on women who share the same socio-economic class and race as them, that’s why they’re more interested in telling stories about them. They think nothing of such things happening to women of other culture and classes because it’s believed that no one cares, or the women deserved it. The white, middle class, male controlled newsrooms are interested in young, conventionally attractive white women because that’s what interests white men!
No, it’s just that video with Moab police. So everyone who watches it feels kinda guilty that the murder wasn’t prevented. We want to redo what cannot be redone
But you're here commenting on Gabby's case. There are RUclips videos about other missing persons. I do agree with you btw, but publicity doesn't follow what is deserved, but rather what we click and comment on.
@@johndough23 True, certain people are deemed "higher value" than others. Ironically, it's usually the "lower value" people who are most at risk. This same construct applies to animals, rodents and insects as well. We don't eat dogs, cats and horses, in America anyway, yet we eat cows, chickens and pigs everyday.🤔 Also, roaches are despised, but not butterflys. 🤔
@@Immolate62 I look into all cases. ♡ my partner is a poc, so I take it very seriously 💗 being with them has taught me so much and enlightened me. It makes me sick to know- if it was them & I in this situation, they would have thrown them in jail asap. None of this person of Interest BS. I have talked about how it's unfair. And I agree. Everyone regardless of race creed color or gender deserves this amount of attention. Have a great night all ❤
I love how you included the names of both missing white and missing minority females in recent years. Right there is the proof of the existence of MWW Syndrome.. Sadly, I've never heard of these people of color and their stories. The same amount of fervor in locating the missing should be applied across the board.
@@JonahJayTaylor name one black woman who wasn't a celebrity, that was a victim of domestic violence and was murdered and received national attention, media obsession and daily analysis. Just name ONE.....
I've heard of this. I remember when Lacy Peterson was missing. A Pregnant Mother of color, and her 6 year old Son disappeared around that time. She, or her Child Never got any where near the attention.
I think there is a class/status element to this. Example: you won't hear about about a working girl (of any colour) going missing from the streets of Detroit. This is an interesting and complex subject.. but yes, pretty, white, middle/upper class females do get more media focus if they go missing.
The majority of the US population is white and therefore can relate to Gabby and feel a stronger connection with her compared to non-whites who have gone missing. It's only natural for people to be more interested in and care for their own people more than others. This doesn't mean that white people shouldn't care about non-whites, I'm just saying that it's natural for people to care about their own people more than others, and as the US population is mostly white it only makes sense that Gabby's story would gain a lot of attention and interest.
No this is sadistic abuse of her life & 'Ted Bundy Syndrome'. Nobody cares about victims at all, this is about one person only Brain, he did this on purpose to get all the focus to be on him so it is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' there are plenty of RUclips videos with young beautiful blonde women who are drug addicts wandering homeless in the streets but nobody cares about them, this is exactly the perception of Gabby. The whole reason behind Brians total destruction of all her efforts was to reduce her to this type of spectacle which is exactly the same as the spectacle of recording young blonde attractive drug addicts wandering around it is all misogynistic schadenfreude perpetrated by men & women alike & Brian knows this*. I need to finish your video but I would be surprised if you really believe that she has any advantages over any minorities considering she is dead & all her dreams completely obliterated this is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' because nobody cares about her *they enjoy the sadistic aspects of how she was treated by Brain all of these advertising dollars are because of Brian not Gabby. Brian knew he would murder her & create this spectacle *not Gabby*. Please dont blame already & tbh eternally marginalized abused tortured women *for the attention seeking hysterics of a garbage psychopath like Brain. Nobody will ever give a damn what she wanted to do with her life, (ever, do you? to you she's just a white woman so you fell for his bs) it is all Brain the loser psychopath. Brain is the one who created this & advertising dollars for you -- not her, don't blame her. You should re-do this or delete it it is uncharecteristic of your more empirical insights.
I really think this is getting attention because she was posting to instagram. If prostituts posted adventures to instagram then went missing in the company of a paying customer we'd pay attention.
In the case of Ms Petito, there was a lot of video available, and the incongruence of the tiktok vids when viewed with the police bodycam footage....I think more information just gives it more viewer time.
After seeing more than a dozen mentions of this case in my Google / general news feeds over the last day, I literally found myself asking myself 3 hours ago why the whole world is suddenly following this one story about a young, white and attractive woman when this case has no obvious dissimilarities to literally hundreds of others that are reported every day in America. Dr. Grande, you are an acutely astute academic.
@@TheeEnglishKnight She didn't mean that. I don't think that I'm attractive or pretty, even tho many has said that, but I still have my own opinions. For example I can say that Kim Kardashian isn't beautiful imo even tho most ppl find her very beautiful. But I still don't mean that I'm prettier than Kim Kardashian.
@@TheeEnglishKnight Oh come on that is mean & uncalled for and not on topic. What Fly commented in the context of her response was not a put down, but refuting that she was attractive. Beauty is often in the eye of the beholder.
@@flyandshy00 Your not unattractive. Especially that your a woman & you play chess, that's hot af. I can't be the only one who always wished a girlfriend would play chess (I looked at your channel).
Oh I can't believe I didn't mention this already. I think specifically regarding the Gabby Petito case, it's useful to note that one out of three women will be in a domestically abusive relationship in their lifetime. That's a lot of women out there who related to this story, just as I did, the moment we watched her crying in that body cam police video.
It must be painful for people of color to live in that reality. Some time back I read about many missing teens from the Big Island Hawaii, it was a blogger who kept writing about it, very scary indeed. Yet the media does not talk about these Hawaiian teens or the many Native American women missing in Wyoming. I am a immigrant and love this country but do not understand why Native Americans get this horrible treatment. Thank you for this presentation.
Over 320,000 white people went missing in the US in 2020. How many of these got national attention? This case got public attention due to a number of factors; She had a social media presence - The mystery of what happened between her and her boyfriend - Where is Brian Laundrie now - The way social media helped discover evidence. Maybe white people do relate more to other white people, just like other races relate more to their own race. Should we feel shame for this? I don't.
Think logically and politically about this (I hate to say that's where we are ....but this is where we are). These stories end up being not about the victim....but who the media can attack as the villain. Who is the best villain to have in today's society....based solely of how our culture is shaping out? It gives you the answers you seek as to why the these other tragic crimes are not being covered by the Media. It doesn't fit the narrative....it doesn't help further the goal. Divide and conquer.
As a member of the Cherokee tribe, I've found the number of mission Cherokee women alone to be quite disconcerting. The US has a long tradition of abusing native people. When whites realized they could never succeed at enslaving natives, they did everything they could to destroy natives and their culture instead. The US slaughtered nearly 300 helpless and unarmed Lakota people at Wounded Knee, and there were soldiers given metals for their "heroics", and the abuse continues in smaller forms to this day. From things like my cousin being given field sobriety test often due to the assumption he must be an alcoholic because he is native, to the fact that the police use lethal force against natives at an even higher rate than they do against blacks. The only bright spot is that more and more tribes are able to meaningfully help their members now days.
@@member5488 I also think in the Internet age the tide is finally turning toward awareness of the struggles of native peoples and other minorites that were and are still imposed by the majority in power. Especially for young people, I see a willingness to listen and find ways to correct the habits and attitudes that contribute to further harm.
I'm big into "true crime" in general. I listen to true crime pod casts, and I hear stories where the victims are all different races. To me, it's the story itself, the different components to it...that gets me interested. There are many "I survived" episodes where the victims are not white that stand out to me the most & literally get to me the most.
I've been fascinated by true crime when it was only broadcast on tv. I hear stories involving all races as well. BUT, the overwhelming majority is white. Go to any true crime RUclipsr's or Podcaster's playlist. Look thru it. Amost all of their videos are about white people. They sprinkle in a few blacks, Latinos, etc to seem all inclusive. Then look at the views. The minority cases generate less views usually.
@Billie Jean the assortment of videos available to you when you open an service like RUclips is based off what it thinks you want to watch, maybe the algorithm thinks you're racist?
@Mister Me I would like to see better as well, I dont think the place "missing white woman syndrome" was thought up is going to get a more accurate reflection of reality.
As much as I hate to bring race into this story, I suppose there is some truth. I was stationed in Colorado Springs years ago when Jon Benet Ramsey was found dead. The news media did give 15 seconds to a Latina woman whose child was also found dead on the same day. The Latina said she was certain less effort would be spent on her daughter's case than Jon Benet's.
Well JonBenet's parents being loaded helped that case get as much attention too because unlike a normal family they could hire all kinds of PR people. It for sure had to do with her being white and pretty and blonde but her families $$$$ took it to a whole different level
@@Jessica-gy6kr Because it's really about what the media can sensationalize - they are the evil ones. It's rich versus poor. Well known versus unknown. Consider this case - none of those parents are poor. Making it a racial issue just divides us normal folk.
Really refreshing to hear this take from a more objective and data-based approach. I think it can be really challenging to broach these topics without getting emotional, but the way you validated this phenomenon gives much more legitimacy because you backed it up with irrefutable facts and statistics.
This case is nothing about colour. It’s because it’s extremely relatable to a huge population and also that everyone had an insight into their lives via blogs/photos etc. it’s a case that allows people to do their own digging and trying to find clues on their own.
I'm surprised that this analysis misses what I consider to be the most important thing raising this case in public awareness: the fact that Gabby Petito had an ongoing viewing audience who was monitoring her social media posts during the period in which she disappeared. She was already a public personality in a small way. This seemed so obvious to me that I was really annoyed when a lot of people jumped up to shove it into the Missing White Girl box to further their own agendas. Yes, endemic racism is a serious problem in this country, but not every issue involving a white person is an issue of white privilege.
Also, it angered me that people would be so willing to add to the anguish of the Petito family, as if poor Gabby or her family were somehow guilty of exploiting white privilege to get attention for themselves.
I think ppl are missing the point. Missing white woman syndrome is about the media reaction. It does not suggest or diminish the reasons this poor girl was murdered. It is a false equivalency to jump to accusations of racism. Pls don't dismiss this syndrome. We had a very similar case here in 🇬🇧. Unfortunately women of all races go missing but the press is more likely to report and storybuild when a white woman is involved. No one has said Gabby Petito fits into this syndrome. Pls don't knee jerk. I hope those close to her have the space to heal one day
Gabby's case checks other boxes for interest: young, pretty, from a prosperous background. There doesn't tend to be interest in middle-aged dollar store clerks, or drug-addicted sex workers, unless there are a lot of them.
Perfectly said Flora, and I wholeheartedly agree. Is there any sensationalism in a missing minority drug addicted girl working as a cashier at Walmart, or the Dollar Store. No, media companies want stories that appeal to the middle and upper middle white class sectors of society, because they get maximum viewership, and that translates to "maximum" dollar returns in advertising sales. The more viewers, the more you can sell your advertising for. It all boils down to money $$$. The White market has 80 % of the money, and they want that.
@@grantp4022 This is going to sound harsh, but it's not intended to be: the qualities that made Gabby a good influencer (and she was good; I think she would have been a success) also made her an "interesting" murder victim to the public.
I do think socioeconomic status play into it as much as whether someone is white. People expect the drug-addicted sex worker to possibly end up murdered.
I've never been too interested in missing persons, aside from MMIW, until this case, due to the public information available on the couple's whereabouts and the fact that we were literally able to piece together clues in real time. In a lot of MP cases there is not a lot of information to go off of, but oftentimes cases don't get enough attention from media or authorities. I want to see the same techniques that were used to help find Gabby's remains put to work on finding other missing persons such as Jelani Day and Ashley Heavy Runner. Both of these individuals have similarly mysterious circumstances and clue trails that can be followed, and up until recently Jelani's case hadn't been given much attention because he went missing at the height of Gabby's case. Ashley Heavy Runner's family has had to fund their own investigations because the authorities haven't even analyzed evidence found in connection to her disappearance.
Thank you for this info. I care much for all missing cases, but I always wonder how and why some cases, such as this one, blows up with media attention while so many others do not.
I didnt know about this syndrome until I saw your video. But I already noticed how weird and unfair it was that only this time, a missing person on the other side of the ocean was all over the news where I live (the Netherlands). And later again the updated news of the homicide.
I think a lot of people recognized similarities in their personal experiences with abusive partners, also parents who unfortunately lost their children due to it. I’ve also seen people say the case has brought focus to it in general, that maybe it could help other victims. Also when the cop claimed the 911 caller said he never hit her, but a call was made public that contradicted it. Not to mention how this story played out. It’s bizarre. I fully agree it’s not an example of WWS.
It’s definitely both: there are all of the factors you named PLUS the factors listed by Dr. Grande. Gabby was pretty and she embodied who people perceive needing protection, AND it could be solved soon. But how many cases about missing WOC have similar details do we not hear about and why? That’s a serious problem.
@Billie Jean if you watch Dr Grande’s content, you probably shouldn’t use fallacies in your response. I see a whataboutism & a strawman. It doesn’t contribute any value to the conversation.
I've been a little embarrassed about being so emotionally invested in a crime case involving two people I've never even met. This is a wonderful topic and very straightforward explanation of the response to the Pettito/Laundrie case. I wouldn't expect anything less from Dr. Grande. Thanks for helping me understand myself in a more positive way,, Dr. Grande. You rock!😎
Gabby's case represents a lot of women in any country being in a toxic relationship. Their relationship is told real time through social media and police body cam.
Brilliant analysis ! I was stunned when someone accused me of falling into the "Missing white woman" trap because I was gripped by this true story. I was compelled by the Gaby Petito case because of its unusual complexity and strange narrative about what would normally be quite ordinary young people . It has every twist and turn you would expect in a movie rather than real life ! Every woman can relate to Gaby; regardless of colour or ethnicity simply through the act of being a mother or sister or friend or by their own experience ! Men can relate to the story not just as a father or friend or brother but by desiring to call to account one of their own ! The tragic story of a young woman wanting to be loved and chasing her dreams ,but inadvertantly choosing to follow a path that leads her to her own doom and eventual death is compelling to everyone who has ever loved or dreamed. Every body can feel empathy for a love gone so wrong ending in a life taken regardless of ethnicity . This tragic case is made more facinating by the fact this nightmare scenario is illustrated by so many pretty pictures . This story illustrates the folly of a fantasy taken too far . We all dream and that is what ,we the public share with Gaby ! Her whiteness is irrelevent .Dreams should not end in murder !
The racism regarding this case has been disgusting. Imagine how her parents feel, being told that the country only cares about her daughter’s disappearance and death because she’s white.
@@clarissa8477 this isn’t racism lol. Some people do care just because she is white. Imagine how her parents feel… how did Trayvon martin’s parents feel?
@@clarissa8477 I think there are more cases of "disgusting" racism. In the same area tons of indigenous women are missing and found murdered. None get the coverage like this, all of them also have hopes and dreams and family... and get none of the coverage and police help.
I have had people in my life murdered by an ex or spouse, and their stories hardly gained any coverage while they were missing. Can most of us relate to Gabby, sadly yes. But IMO People tend to relate more with those they identify with. So if people see their loved ones; Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Daughter, Son, in the victim(s) they are bound to care more about the story. I don't think it's done purposely, at least not by most. As someone who's tragically lost both relatives and friends, I feel for her family and every person that truly loves her while simultaneously recognizing that bias exist. I also feel for those that loved Brian, not knowing his true nature, that's a different type of hell.
I like the comment about naively travelling with someone when there's trouble in the relationship and lessons to learn. That has been my focus. What lessons can young women learn from this.
How about the lessons men can learn about their anger? 3 women die everyday the US by domestic related issues. Why are we addressing woman when we should be addressing men.
Here's a test, there's another missing woman with similar but not exact circumstances going on in the Midwest right now, and since the Petito case started. Can you name her? She's hispanic
I feel every life matters. Unfortunately, the fact is that she was a beautiful young lady, and the fact everyone knew she was being abused by Brian gave this case higher popularity. I will say, though, that being in a Domestic Violence situation is very very difficult. I live in that hell every single day.
Abused by brian? We have one witness saying that, ONE. Unless you want to count Gabby's best friend who claimed herself Brian didn't like her. Brian had wounds from GABBY'S attacks in the police cam, Gabby didn't have a SINGLE scratch or a SINGLE bruise or a SINGLE red mark on her. Had she of been abused, where's the physical proof? Dude said he saw her get slapped several times less then an hour before cops pulled them over. Where's the proof? You can see MUCH of her skin, and I don't see a single blemish.
@@DaggsTheCurious is her being found deceased enough proof for you I've been slapped and you don't always see it Face was red she was upset about nothing you realize you're talking about a young girl who was murdered so that should be enough for you to realize she was in a abusive relationship and now she's not here anymore so what do you think now???
@William Tell relationship that's abusive after while the woman fights back they are tired of it ! If you haven't been in an abusive relationship then you know nothing about it
The funny part is even the black females in the audience knew the white girls names...The media can only report the news, they can't force people to like it. If there is no new information, the case/story will die. The last big story I remember is Kobe Bryant's helicopter crash. For those who don't know, Kobe and his daughter are black and this was in the news for at least a month. It was tragic even though it was fairly clear what happened. This is NOT about race, it's about a father's love for his daughter and tragically he died with her. The whole reason Kobe even bought a helicopter was to get around traffic and spend more time with family. There were many variables that made this a huge news story. Does anyone remember the white people on the helicopter that died? I liked Michael Jordan growing up and stopped watching basketball before Kobe was a big name. The thing is...it is rarely about race and more about variables that are more complex and time consuming to dissect.
Now, you did that totally awe-inspiring. 👏🏽 I'm a Black female, over 65, who lived in Florida all my life. Oh, and let me add, I love both of those female Black reporters you mentioned. I love your channel, share it with friends, and don't miss an episode, as if you were, Dragnet or Colombo. When I saw the titled, I thought, w/the eye roll, oh no, don't attack that subject. Elated to say, you hit the ball out of the park. I've seen you make homeruns before, however, this beautiful tight walk dance was spectacular, and to end it w/ the alligator analogy; what a crescendo! Keep up the great work !
Believe me, age also plays a part. I'm 60, no one would be looking for me on this grand scale if I disappeared because they would just think I ran away or something. Personal appearance has something to do with it also because Gabby was very pretty.
Great analysis of the situation, and I agree. I don’t think it’s missing white women syndrome. It’s because they had a following on social media, were documenting their trip, had lots of pictures, seemed happy, all until she went missing. It was a mystery unfolding before our eyes, and everyone had a lot of questions. He came back without her, then police footage of their conversations with the police came out for everyone to see, and everyone came up with their own theories. People started saying that you can’t always tell from social media how a relationship really is, was he an abuser, was she an abuser, why wasn’t he talking to police and cooperating? The media had A LOT to talk about, and so did we. With others who just go missing, we don’t have all of that. Just like with Natalee Holloway, it wasn’t because she was white, it was because it was so unusual, there was video of her with those guys, they lied to police, her parents were there looking for her, telling the media all about it. The family obviously had money, so they probably made sure their daughter had the coverage she had. Plenty of other white girls go missing and don’t get that coverage, just as minorities go missing and don’t have that. A black man in his 20’s went missing, and some woman said it was the same as the Gabby Petito case. Um.... no, it’s absolutely nothing at all like it. He’s a grown man who just didn’t show up and might not have wanted to be found. There’s no photos of him on a trip with a person who came back without him and wouldn’t talk to police. She’s trying to make this racist, and it’s just not.
I would ask you to substitute Gabby and Brian for a same-sex white female couple. I have no doubt they would NOT get the same amount of coverage in the media. Also, the murdered same-sex married couple have not gotten half the media coverage as Gabby, and there is an unknown assailant roaming freely in regards to their case. And I would also ask you substitute missing Jelani for a white, young, handsome male geologist. The media would also heavily cover such a disappearance. Race, gender, age, and socioeconomic status DOES play a part in media coverage, and Gabby's media coverage hit all checkboxes for MWWS classification.
@@mb5ggX2SyFMM Bingo! Its sort of fucked up but its obviously the case and has been like that for decades, not sure why it can’t be accepted as a reality in American media
It’s true. This case had a lot of updates, visual aspects, the need for others to come forward, unusual circumstances, etc. on the other hand, I’ve seen a city of 350K come to dire life to find 2 missing black children in a desperate attempt to find them before a major storm hit. Tens of thousands of people searched city and wilderness to find them in time and everyone paid attention.
This is something that I’ve definitely thought about when hearing about this case. I know that people hate to bring race into things but as someone who is black and white, I will say that there IS a tendency to give a lot more attention to white women, especially those who are made to look like an all American girl or as one online article put it, “America‘s daughter.” Think about the Instagram model who was murdered a couple of months ago; look at how quickly and abruptly that story has been forgotten. And it’s not just about stories being forgotten or getting more or less coverage, a big issue is that the media portrays the missing people or murder victims in a certain way based on their race.
One very important factor that keeps being ignored is the family of the missing person. Some families, regardless of race or gender, pester the media and law enforcement in order to bring it into the public view thereby increasing the the likelihood of a sighting. More attention to this factor might encourage families to assert themselves more.
So right! Non-white people may feel that they will be ignored, but Gabby's parents were ignored for several days until it was obvious that they were not going to give up.
That doesn’t add up. I’m following lots of cases. Most of them are from the ‘minorty’ groups. A lot of the parents gone immediatly to the police but they were not taken seriously. The parents then immediately started their own searches. They often do not have the means and the inputs to share information through the mainstream media. I found them because people ask for help and information via Facebook. And that is very difficult. We are in a world where apparently certain skin color determines others' efforts. While God is for everyone. That should be the guiding principle: We are there for each other.
Thank you for providing an honest, insightful analysis of a volatile topic. Though I believe 100% that Missing White Woman Syndrome is a real media practice, the obsessive coverage of the Gabby Petito case may better be described as Missing Influencer Syndrome - a distinctly 21st Century form of privilege.
Unfortunately it’s true. When you look at the amount of black, brown and indigenous women who are missing or have been murdered and compare their lack of coverage to white women it’s appalling.
It is an absurd argument to look at one single case of a white woman then proclaim "the media only cares about whites". Literally any amount of critical thinking would show you this is wrong. The opposite is likely true- the media has a hard on for any crime involving a white perpetrator and colored victim despite the inverse essentially being 10x more common
Age and attractiveness are salient factors, too. I'm doubting there would have been day-to-day coverage had Petito been older, homely, and significantly overweight.
Yes, it seems like it is not just whether you are white and a woman. Stories with very attractive college-aged girls or middle-aged trophy wives seem to be the most popular with the new media.
Def a very specific type of woman. When is the last time you recall coverage of a missing redhead or brunette? Usually a blonde with blue eyes
@@nobodyexceptme7794 I agree
Don’t forget if she wasn’t white
@hello1234 exactly. White women fit the beauty standards best and are very protected in our society, so therefore they face the most media coverage when gone missing. It’s not anyone’s fault but the media. And yea people could sit here and say “well there’s a higher white population, so of course the media will appeal to that” but that doesn’t mean the media shouldn’t give other cases as much attention
Excellent: a new rule, "The Grande Rule”: the sensational nature of any story goes up exponentially when alligators are introduced into the narrative.
😂🤣
Also, Florida I think. no insult if you're from there.
that and the murder part
Triple that when there are ninjas 🥷
@@mistrjt9213 Opposite Jodi Arias, I hear you....It's interesting though cuz this guy did the complete opposite he ran she stayed and stayed made up a whole bunch of lies. I like to figure this stuff out too and I caught your reference.
Youth and beauty are powerful factors in our “concern” for a victim. I guarantee the first word people use when describing this case is; she was so “young” the second word is she was so “pretty.” As superficial is it sounds, we are more affected by something happening to young, beautiful people.
young & beautiful women.......
don't you even DARE try and say it applies to us men 😂😂😂
@@Macheako if you can't be called beautiful due to some gender expectations, you might be insecure. if i completely missed what your comment was saying, i might be an idiot.
@@Macheako you have a lot of people defending him on tik tok tho cuz the boyfriend is white and young too
So people are saying they don’t think he’d do it
Creepy and weird
100% FACTS!!!👍🏻
Young and beautiful (White) woman.
In Canada, there have been literally thousands of missing and murdered Indigenous women. There was a national inquiry, but it took years of political pressure to prompt the Canadian government to conduct the inquiry. Whether the study will improve the situation remains to be seen.
Would be interested to hear Dr. Grande's analysis of the Highway of Tears and systemic patriarchal issues which perpetuate these crimes.
This is true of msm, but there are many stories on youtube covering indigenous women in Canada & the states. Msm viewership has steadily been decreasing over the years, perhaps bcuz they’re to busy playing politics to cover the news we’re really interested in.
First of all, I want to say the tragedy with Gabby's death is horrible and unacceptable. No family should have to endure such pain. The controversy here is on the "media" - an external set of news reporting entities. Dr. Grande cited a well-known study on this topic. But as he noted, the research is limited and the FBI data was somewhat confounded. However, a more recent study was done by Dr. Danielle Slakoff on disparities in coverage of missing women based on ethnicity. Her research uncovered the feedback of one news reporter who blatantly told her they don't report missing women of color very often because they want high ratings - hence the focus on young, white women (particularly blondes). In summary, Dr. Slakoff's work reveals large disparities in coverage biased against women of color. To be fair, there are counterexamples. I have noticed that John Walsh has dedicated many news segments to people of color - not just young white women. In addition, David Paulides covers many cold cases long forgotten throughout the world. He even uncovered one I had not heard of in rural AZ where I am from. I would encourage Dr. Grande to review Dr. Slakoff's work or perhaps collaborate with her as a colleague in the field.
None of those women had a following on social media 👍
@@thebikehippie6562 None? I've read that Gabby only had 600 followers before this tragedy, only added 100 folds after her death. The impact of this tragedy on social media however is greater than expected. I was a little surprised myself as well that the mainstream media are also reporting on this widely.
What a great way to bring up this topic in a tasteful and respectful way without disrespecting Gabbie or creating malice toward her. That’s a tight rope to walk and you did so perfectly! :)
Yes, unfortunately that very subject has been causing hostile feelings between members in my true crime groups, I knew it would.
She needs to be charged for taking limelight away from other cases
@@keonblizzy3706 🤔
@@keonblizzy3706 first off..... she's dead, so how tf would that work 😒
@@keonblizzy3706 lol imagine any of those popular black people who never mentioned any of this crap mentioning any of this crap even once.
yet they dont... unless of course they can paint it as a "white people bad" issue.
Am I responsible for your safety?
Am I responsible for those missing black people?
Am I responsible for not giving a flying fugg about black people who are missing due to other black people kidnapping, murdering etc. them?
Who am I, God?
Take care of your own business you pathetic racist.
for me, the case is interesting only because there's video footage of her being alive and "well" in a situation where it's directly connected to her death.
Bingo. That footage played a big roll in the popularity of this case. A big piece of puzzle to dissect.
One word -> marketing. Can you market this missing person(s) case? Having plenty of video footage makes that possible, otherwise, you have a 1-day storyline.
Yeah, it's like a Black Mirror episode gone wrong, so much video & social media stuff about them then the internet also tries to help find her using the internet as well? Its surreal.
same; also a couple of other details were really interesting to me: 1. the dude running away 2. his parents’ behavior, and 3. the sliver of hope that she was still alive
No this is sadistic abuse of her life & 'Ted Bundy Syndrome'. Nobody cares about victims at all, this is about one person only Brain, he did this on purpose to get all the focus to be on him so it is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' there are plenty of RUclips videos with young beautiful blonde women who are drug addicts wandering homeless in the streets but nobody cares about them, this is exactly the perception of Gabby. The whole reason behind Brians total destruction of all her efforts was to reduce her to this type of spectacle which is exactly the same as the spectacle of recording young blonde attractive drug addicts wandering around it is all misogynistic schadenfreude perpetrated by men & women alike & Brian knows this*. I need to finish your video but I would be surprised if you really believe that she has any advantages over any minorities considering she is dead & all her dreams completely obliterated this is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' because nobody cares about her *they enjoy the sadistic aspects of how she was treated by Brain all of these advertising dollars are because of Brian not Gabby. Brian knew he would murder her & create this spectacle *not Gabby*. Please dont blame already & tbh eternally marginalized abused tortured women *for the attention seeking hysterics of a garbage psychopath like Brain. Nobody will ever give a damn what she wanted to do with her life, (ever, do you? to you she's just a white woman so you fell for his bs) it is all Brain the loser psychopath. Brain is the one who created this & advertising dollars for you -- not her, don't blame her. You should re-do this or delete it it is uncharecteristic of your more empirical insights.
Good lord, this is a quality, balanced take. You never cease to amaze, Dr. Your humble, analytical perspective is greatly appreciated.
And your jokes are subtle and more engaging than an alligator 🐊 Thanks again
My sentiments exactly. Dr Grande always has a compelling take. I didn’t realize the gravity of 🐊alligators to a story too😆
A balanced take? Are you folks numb ? Wow.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen “alligator” and “subtle” in the same sentence. Doesn’t seem right.
@@susanallison183 LOL. Funny observation, and seems accurate.
@@j.g.junior9835 maybe it’s you’re too sensitive.
Dr. Grande- thx for crediting others in your vids. Here it’s journalist Gwen Ifill coining phrase [or “syndrome]. Her international coverage and analyses were always in-depth. RIP Gwendolyn Ifill
I am looking forward to Dr. Grande's continuing assessments on the Petito case and things unfold. The balanced approach is refreshing.
That’s right, I appreciate it so much is analyzes, very professional.
Agreed the clarity and factual nature of Dr. Grande’s presentation is greatly appreciated. However he is also perpetuating what is “A News Story” aka a driver of political agendas.
Dr. Grande thinks critically, yet as if propaganda news is fact. Let’s learn from Dr. Grande and go deeper with critical thinking to evaluate the authenticity or agenda of News story selection.
In some instances like Justin Smollett an actor who claimed he was attacked in Chicago by white supremacists when it turned out the event was a staged political lie, run 24/7 on CNN.
The city of Chicago sued Justin Smollett for wasting and diverting police resources away from people (including black citizens) who actually need it, for an expensive perjured farce.
the LORD GOD came into the world, taking on flesh, and HE lived perfectly, died for our sins, and rose for our justification. repent of your sins and believe in the Gospel!
For real. People fighting about it all over the place, this is one of the few places I can get a clear picture of what is going on
I am glad that you’re talking about this. We care for young people getting abused and killed, not matter the color of the skin. You and the news industry should talk about all people that in the same predicament no matter what color of the skin or how many ratings. You Dr. Grande should do more research about people of color, however, I as a spectator, take responsibility also. I was into this story not because of alligators, I just stunned to see a beautiful woman with so much to offer to the world kook up to this man. What I was more surprised is to find out that she got bitt up and she still cries when she was told not to be with him. We need to educate our children when they are little to walk away from this type of relationships. But this is something we never think is going to happen to us. He was not only not supported of her, of what she was doing, but he put her down. The way his family behaved was also chocking. I really hope they pay for it. He is a coward and a lot of other things I cannot write. God bless her family. RIP
The fact that he just showed up back home from a trip without her and didn't say a word made it a mystery to solve. And then there are so many photos and videos of her alive and happy on this trip, that draw you in, you feel like you know her, you can imagine what she was like, being young, on this adventure, that kept the story going and people wondering why didn't her boyfriend talk. But what a nightmare for her family, as more and more ugly details come out. There are some things the public don't need to know. Especially when Gabby isn't here to speak up for herself.
400 native women went missing in the same spot, not one of their cases was covered. Gabby was only covered because she was white, blonde, female and attractive. The media should also cover other people with the same intensity, it would solve thier cases too.
Stop deluding yourself that this was covered for anyone other reason than what Gabby looked like, of course I do not blame Gabby's family for getting coverage to solve the case, however the same luxuries should be afforded to other people who are not white and pretty and female.
The same feeling can easily be achieved from the reporting of any missing person. In the video, he mentioned all the points of interest, failing to realise, that other missing person cases will also have their story to tell. Gaby Petito is not unique.
@@pedroalmodovar1323 you are right, but it’s ridiculous not to even acknowledge the specific circumstances and all of the video and photo evidence make it a very compelling mystery. To say “for no other reason than she was white” is over simplifying. To tell someone they are deluded because they find it interesting and can understand why others are interested is juvenile and ignorant. It’s almost as if you didn’t watch the video, or you have been so victimized by the rampant racism in this country that it has informed your entire perspective and you aren’t doing yourself any favors.
@Kitty Kelly Did you just say Natives shouldn't expect the same amount of coverage because they live in the United States and that's somehow a "white" country? You're either trolling or some lame red piller
@Kitty Kelly I bet my left one you're "A high value alpha male anti-simp that just happened to take the red pill"
I'll be my right one "That the high value alpha male" still lives with his mom.
He forgot to mention overweight and less attractive people don't get much media attention if they go missing. One reason might be that those people are less likely targeted, but they do go missing.
they're harder to carry would be my guess 😂
stephen darcy. an overweight white person still gets more coverage than a pretty Black girl. a look at the coverage Mitrice Richardson got compared to the well nourished caucasians during and after the month she went missing should tell you sum.
@@Macheako Also harder to transport, hide, bury or otherwise dispose of.🤔🤔🤔
And anybody trying to pull an Ariel Castro 10+ year imprisonment would be eaten out of house and home.
@@brucejohnson9696 😂😂😂😂😂😂 it’s big momma nature
It was the shock that the cops couldn’t bring him in for questioning. Here he was back with his missing girlfriends van and yet the cops couldn’t touch him! That’s just messed up! And his parents wouldn’t say anything and they ignored Gabbys parents phone calls... what we were seeing was a heartless family letting another family remain in hell wanting to know what happen to their daughter! The case has disturbed a lot of people, just thinking of what sort of family Brian comes from. And how the cops have no power!
It's not messed up, it's how the system works. If more people exercised their 5th amendment rights then the cops would have a much harder time at doing their job. But most people are ignorant of their rights and many wind up incriminating themselves, basically handing the cops everything they need. People have been brainwashed into thinking that if they get a lawyer too soon then it makes them look guilty, so they volunteer information that CAN and WILL be used AGAINST them. Miranda rights exist for a reason, and the cops/investigators are never your friend. Their goal is always to find cracks in your armor/story. So your best option is to not say a word, make them do their job.
Yes i agree and he was shady for hiring a lawyer right away thats admission of guilt. Most innocent talk to police.
@@AmbientShades sorry he has no rights he was last to see her. All they need do is have third party follow him
They hire undercover detectives that may had minor crime because more likely find bad people. He does not need to talk people who saw him can give statements on behavior look
Scott peterson no evidence but people he was around will put him in jail.
@@kinglinus3708 sorry he did have rights or he would be in jail. I'm not here to belittle you, just not respond emotionally. The law is the law
I think it got more coverage because they were caught on the police cam. It makes it more personal and we feel like we have a connection to the victim. Also, she looked scared in the footage, and many people are saying she was possibly abused by the partner. My opinion, of course.
Well put Amanda, and yes I agree wholeheartedly. I'm so so sick of certain people bringing race into such a horrible and sad case?
It was national news before we even knew about the body cam.
@@leemcr1894 It will always be brought up because of the same media that’s promoting her story. Divisiveness and race baiting is apart of our culture. It’s pathetic.
I agree , also the Jenkins case went viral two years ago. The drunk girl that wandered into the hotel’s freezer and couldn’t get out. It took the police a good 24 hrs or so to review footage of the hotel. I believe it was Keneka Jenkins? Correct me if I am wrong.
@@leemcr1894 Good point, Lee. We should never talk about matters that involve an obvious history of white supremacy when a pretty white woman goes missing...or any time really.
Dr. Grande!! You were my professor during my CMHC program from 2012-2015 at Wilmington U. Look at you go!! I love hearing your perspective on these “in the media” cases! Great content 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
How lucky to have Dr Grande as your professor
I’m thinking perhaps the more popular stories of middle class white women ( not sure they all fall under the UPPER middle class category ), could be due to the fact that , oddly, there are more of them than in any “minority” demographic ,which by definition, contains fewer women in general? 🙄 Also, I think the more psychological factors in any case, makes it more intriguing to the public, i.e. more of an actual “ mystery” makes it more appealing?
You didn't mention an important aspect of this case: the appalling behaviour of Brian and his parents after Brian returned to Florida.
I agree. Also, with the release of the police video everything exploded because it became a massive point of discussion as to who was the abuser.
That is a different program.
Right?
He did another video covering alot of that.
His mental aggression & he comes home on her van , lawyers up & she’s dead of homicide! Now he’s missing & in regards to Gabby , he’s only a ‘person of interest’ ?? If they were married , would this not be handled differently ? She’s dead & the entire family is untouchable .
Removing all other aspects that feed the narrative, the fact that there was an hour long body worn police video posted online in the middle of the search for the two individuals is enough for it to have exploded. There aren’t that many cases where so much information is available to the public WHILE the investigation is taking place. People love to consume true crime media, period. When you’re able to consume it live as the event is happening it’s like the holy grail. That’s why cases like this and the Chris Watts case are so popular.
Yeah I was thinking about the Chris Watts case too. Shannan had so much online and then the body cam while he was virtually getting caught in his lies was great.
This is true
Totally agree. That video was something concrete to see, therefore making this case easy to follow.
Sure, fair enough, but all the factors Dr. G mentioned still play into why this hour long body cam footage was released when it was.
The police take many many many hours of body cam and dash cam footage. What gets released early or leaked? And why?
@@drebk Regardless of why it was released, if there is no video of other cases to release to the media or the person is not part of some new fad movement (vanlife) with an online presence, you want the police to invent the material so that other cases get as much coverage as Gabby Petito? Ive been seeing vanlife videos online for two years now. Its quite trendy. And not everyone doing vanlife is white, either.
So true. Thank you. My niece has been missing for weeks, we know she's dead. Shes a mom but because she has a record and struggled with addiction nobody gives a crap. Blip in the news paper is all she is or was... my family just doesn't understand why nobody cares, I understand perfectly.
She had to call the cops on her boyfriend right before she disappeared. I'm sure he killed her. Id actually like to share her name to honor her (even though I like staying anonymous online)
Her name is Kari Campbell. She is missing from the Fredericton area. New Brunswick, Canada
It's been outrageous.
You amaze me with your currently relevant topics
So sorry 💕
Im sorry to hear that, I hope you all find some closure and she is alive and well
@@tomatofeind2019 me too. Not holding our breath anymore unfortunately. Thanks though. 🤗
So sorry to hear. I wonder if media also choose stories based on whether or not the public can help find them. It’s not about caring or not caring.
OH my! Heart breaking. Prayers for closure
Being pretty is part of the equation but it only goes so far. One of the main elements is that we have a known suspect that's on the run. When that happens, it's often shared in local media. Police ask for help finding suspects in my area all the time and gets thousands of shares. The reason why it's national news though is because it spanned half of the United States so he could have been anywhere in between Montana and Florida. People are always quick to try to hunt a known suspect down. This is much different than most of the other missing persons cases where no one knows what happened or if there's a suspect. Can't exactly hunt someone down in that scenario. It also helps that they had a large online presence and there's lots of video footage to share.
True! Thank you for making these points that others are overlooking.
I could not agree with you more.
Thank you!! Very good points!
I agree with you. It’s a salacious story.
I would like to add that "pretty girls" are less likely to be believed in cases of sexual abuse. They are often blamed as somehow causing it. Our society really needs to get over themselves and their biases in all directions.
This is a very good example of your thoughtful ability to provide valuable timely analysis.
You are correct in that the abundance of photos and video in this case has contributed to the understandable public interest. One other factor that may be at play is the glaring disparity between the joyous images Miss Petito was posting and the sad reality of the dangerous toxic relationship with Brian Laundrie.
Thank you Dr Grande.
Another intersection is the true crime audience ( in the millions) and the vanlife audience ( also in the millions!)
@@bthomson yes good point. Thank you
@@bthomson Exactly!!
@Bruce Thompson.... exactly. Some of the most heart wrenching stories I have heard have come from the show "I survived" where the storues may not have received media coverage because the victim survives... but just their stories are inspiring & they get to tell their story... which is hopefully therapeutic for them.
@@carolineforth4261 excellent point. I think you are on to something. Could it be many of us are too obsessed with death?
I’m Native American and Vietnamese mixed. Doctor Grande, this case has absolutely hit me In the heart. Gabby is so beautiful. Had her whole life ahead of her. She was a fellow woman and also a fellow van lifer. I’ve been feeling for her but hurt at the same time because my own people do not get this same coverage. In fact, I have many friends who’ve gone missing from my reservation and other reservations near AND they’re nearly never found. i appreciate you talking about this toPic
Dr Grande. I felt bad for feeling the way I did but I know feel like my feelings are absolutely valid. We’ve had a few missing and murdered indigenous women who had had coverage. Savannah Greywind being one of them. However, I believe it was due to the severity of her case. Her poor baby was ripped from her poor mothers body while she was still alive. I hope that we can find a solution to get everyone the coverage everyone needs. Every race matters.
What a beautiful attitude you have in regards to this. White women definitely tend to get more media coverage, but the answer really isn't to give them less coverage. Gabby was murdered, so clearly the family needed (needs) coverage and help. However, media needs to run the same kind of coverage when other ethnicities are missing and murdered.
Thank you so much for your post 😢. With all respect, do indigenous men have anything to do with missing indigenous women?
The bodycam footage is like the intro to a murder horror movie.
You start looking at it looking for cluess of what is about to happen.
I think that the van life angle also has something to do with the media frenzy. Van life and nomadic living are trendy hot button things rn, and this is the horror story version
Good observation
Absolutely. This case features MANY hot buttons which made it as popular as it is.
Of course, the media wants to portray everything as dangerous, especially living off the grid.
Can't have too many people chucking off the shitty job, endless debt train.
Absolutely!
Yes, I think a lot of young people glamorize living in a van and making money by posting on the internet. Gabby certainly did. This story really shows that living like a free spirit does not make you problem free.
Dr. Grande, you are fierce! You have been making up to date videos and just firing them off left and right! I admire your work ethic, sir.
After Megan The Stallion was shot in the foot, I remember someone saying, "can you imagine how different the media coverage would be if it had been Taylor Swift"?
That's not a fair comparison. Taylor Swift's is incredibly more famous then Megan the stallion. Plus Taylor plays up the sweet girl act. Megan does not
Yup
erhm cause she's a rapper??? it's part of the whole act? beef and shootings? what a stupid comparison
@@arenasification it’s not a stupid comparison…despite their fame or money these are real human beings.
Hi Jenn and Larisa - not "the" but "thee" Stallion.🐴
I think the general "newsworthiness" element is key - which is basically your last point. Here in the UK a story about an old woman beaten in her home by intruders often makes front page news (at least in the tabloid press). As a result, older people often believe crime against them is a major thing. But it is front page because it is rare, but horrible. In the UK statistics show that most victims of crime are actually young men between the ages of 18-25 - but crimes against them are hardly ever reported because it happens all the time.
Isn't all UK press tabloid Press?
Interesting perspective
@gerard dearie I wouldn't classify the guardian as upper class. More middle income, but there also special mention to metro and Evening standard for those of us who can't afford to buy a newspaper
So many Black people love to bring race up any chance they get…. Yet they don’t realize Keneeka Jenkins case has gotten an insane amount of coverage.
I have no clue who Keenka Jenkins is, so the coverage must not be insane everywhere
Dr. Grande just landed a burning plane. Thank you for being able to highlight the disproportionate media coverage of missing people while also managing not to diminish Gabby’s case as well. :)
I’m not sure who you’re saying is diminishing the Gabby case. People who have been disproportionately affected her just stating that. They’re not saying that the young lady doesn’t deserve to have attention or anything like that. I think there is a deeper problem than what is discussed here that’s for certain
@@AnotherTruth They kind of are saying that, since there is a finite amount of airwave coverage possible and a limited amount of information we can possibly consume. It is, to an extent, a zero sum game. So, of both necessity and choice, we focus.
@@AnotherTruth Anecdotally, I have seen multiple people who have some pretty unsavoury takes about Gabby’s death that have boiled down for blaming her for what happened. It’s sad that people think that way. But there is also the issue of how these missing persons cases should be covered and how one missing person can take priority over another. It’s unfortunate. I definitely agree with you though, there are many issues that have arisen from Gabby’s case that cannot be simplified into one 10 minute video,
I like how you talk about a subject people are fighting about all over Twitter with such clearness and sincerity, you don’t sugarcoat anything but you say it in a respectful way. I need to learn how to do that as well. Great video as always Dr. Grande.
This!
A thoughtful man. To be admired and emulated.
Hi Dr. Grande!
I wrote my dissertation regarding gender differences in intimate partner violence. I specifically looked at the differences in the most severe form of partner violence, intimate partner homicide (IPH). As you know, it’s best practice to use recent studies to guide your research. I had absolutely no problem finding research articles about male homicide offenders within the past five years. When I researched women, I had to go back to 1985 to gather at least 10 articles regarding female IPH offenders. The dearth of literature regarding female IPH offenders is severely disappointing. It’s as if they assumed “women rarely kill, let’s ignore this area of research.”
In my research I came across a couple of interesting findings. Mostly, it is difficult for juries to convict women for crimes, as they feel that it must have occurred for self-defense reasons. Jurors are more likely to view the woman as a victim rather than being truly abusive. Conversely, women who were considered to be masculine were more likely to be labeled as violence perpetrators because they’re more similar to men. The more “manly” they are, the leas sympathy they receive. These women are likely to be seen as violent because they don’t exhume softness and victimhood.
Second, intimate partner homicide is hard to predict. There have been many studies of homicidal men who have never abused their partner. That is to say, past abuse does not predict future homicidality. Men without violent background have killed their partners.
There were two possible predictors in the literature: controlling behavior and stalking. I’m the studies men were found to have stalked their partner before the abuse or had great control in the relationship. Once the man lost control of his partner, he “snaps” and kills her.
Speaking of “snapping”, that’s mostly not a thing. Although men reported that they “snapped” they also described slowly justifying the killing of their partner during the days and months before the homicide. Convicted men reported believing that laying hands on a woman is bad, yet they committed a homicide. The justification process allows the person to not feel disturbed by their thoughts and future behavior.
Lastly, while there is very little research on family annihilated and it’s mostly about men. If I recall correctly, this was 5 years ago, there may have been some be or two articles that included women. I’m assuming this hasn’t changed much.
I was going to post the comment about the controlling behavior in your Brian Laundrie video, but forgot. 🤦🏻♀️
Thanks Dr. Grande!
Thank you for sharing this!
Insightful post. Thanks!
A very interesting post.
I would be interested to see a comparison between IPH partners who have a long history of being physically abusive, and those that don't.
I suppose there could be any number of factors as to why the historically abusive don't wind actually killing their partners.
There is a very wide gap between laying hands on someone and doing enough of anything to cause death.
So in some ways it isn't particularly surprising, although it does seem to run counterintuitive.
One might assume they are related, but giving it some more thought... that assumption doesn't make much sense
Thank You! Extremely Well Said!
Read the Bible on proper relationship guides and watch Peter Helland.
He has interesting takes on this specific topic.
You present a very interesting analysis. Another aspect is Brian’s silence. Most people who kill their partners are anxious to tell their side of the story. To make it appear justified. But Brian has shown remarkable restraint and planning. This is in itself unusual. Also there appears to be a reasonable support group assisting Brian. This is unusual as well. Thank you for your honest presentation.
Psychopaths are not anxious.
Totally, the way Brian is avoiding punishment and so many around him are seemingly supporting him is a good 50% of the attention here. It is unique.
The other 50%, IMO, is the social media side. Lots of young people with the same dreams as Gabby and Brian are indentifying with this.
But other cases where the POI is vocal still gained large media attention, like Chris Watts. He was very vocal and it was still a circus show.
As if it was staged.
The cops had a deep respect for Brian's rights, so much that he became a fugitive even though it was within their rights to have him followed. Would this have been allowed to happen had Brian been black?
The question is: How many women have gone missing within the timeframe Petito was missing?
While the whole country was focused on one person, how many snuck right by?
Whites are still largest population in US.
Exactly
Well said 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This comment should have more likes simply because the logic is there.
@@drbqqq1433 That's what you think? There are countless missing persons who police refuse to take reports on or wait too long to do so when it's usually already too late to find them alive.
Dr Grande, a lot of media outlets are today talking about this missing white woman syndrome being an issue but are ironically not looking at themselves in the mirror and are still not reporting on missing non-whites. I love your channel and would love to see your channel make that change and make more of a concious effort to report on missing people and crimes against non-whites.
It's BS. Even if it were true It's hilarious the media criticizes their own editorial decisions and still manages to blame racism.
the evidence doesn't even support the claim lol... but it's true because it fits a narrative.
My understanding is that Dr. Grande reads all of the comments on every video he uploads, i think he enjoys the interactive discussions as much as his subscribers do. Imo, social media influencers should take a lesson from Dr. Grande by trying to keep a level head, upload topics daily, consistently work hard and especially try not to take life so seriously!
That is something I’ve found everywhere people are complaining about this problem. They provide nothing specific for us to hold onto to change our evil ways. If there’s a crushing need to talk about other unsolved cases with evidence out there to be evaluated by all, tell us which ones and let’s get the discussions started, by all means. I’ve heard a lot of blamey language and not a lot of work being put into to laying out those cases. I agree that coverage of POC cases may be lacking, so who’s on it? Anyone can start a RUclips channel.
I love Dr. Grande as well but I was expecting an admission that his content could feature more people of color as well and that he would make an effort to change this. I'm not saying that he doesn't but I think he could feature more. 100% agreed
When Natalee Holloway, Elizabeth smart went missing that’s all I seen on the news especially Jon Benet she has 100 documentaries to this day
Cuz Jonbenet’s case was absolutely crazy. Her parents totally did it but the police were so crappy they didn’t collect evidence to convict them.
Dr. Grande,
I usually don’t comment on RUclips videos. However, I find your videos compelling and informative. Thank you for providing great content on a regular basis!
I think the fact they had a YT channel documenting their van life travels had a lot to do with this one. I think it brings awareness to some young people that social media highlight reels aren't always what they seem.
I think this is most of it. There is something intriguing to people about this case. Mentally they identify with her. Maybe they too want to travel and make money through social media. I think, say, a black couple who had this same story would have drawn the same attention. All it takes is one person to make a TikTok video that somehow causes people to identify with the story and boom!
Also the fact that Brian is being so supported by others, who are seemingly reasonable people. Why? It is so unique.
Their IG and tiktoks had quite a few followers before Gabby stopped posting, but unfortunately only one video exists on her YT. She really would have been a great travel vlogger, and I think people saw her dedication to the work/craft. They were technically 'public figures', which is why their case had more info/imagery/traction. Obviously, their whiteness and youth played into the palatability of the story, but I think it's so much more complex than that.
I agree, it was more relatable to a lot of youth
@@alohaXamanda I don't believe their following mattered. They weren't big influencers by any means, very unseen actually.
@@alohaXamanda Actually she didn't have alot of followers prior to her disappearance. She had maybe 600 followers on Instagram before missing. It wasn't until she garnered media attention that her followers went up significantly.
This was the most rational and thorough explanation I've seen so far
I think about this a lot when brown/black/native women are missing or harmed …. it’s hardly spoken about or covered in media
Yup I have family in Chicago and philly, those little black/Latina girls go missing everyday and you don’t hear anything
Youre right and it makes me sick
@@heatherberry640 it’s scary to think about Ofc I’m on guard all the time experienced some weird things with men but also I know if I went missing it wouldn’t be a national headline.
"Any time a missing person case involves alligators it automatically qualifies as newsworthy... or at least it should"
Thanks for the LOL 😆
Yes Indeed !!
Since the black man was killed by a police officer in the USA, there are hardly any white people in adverts in Britain, even though most people in Britain outside of London are white,
Having grown up in Florida, I would have to disagree.
Remember the Denise Williams case! Claim was her husband had been eaten by alligators! Turns out his best friend shot him.
The doc has my kind of humor sense.
terrible case, aside
Gabby was beautiful, blonde, blue eyed, cheerful looking, and had a lovely smile. She also looked fragile. Its not surprising to me that she garnered so much attention. Its not fair though. Every missing person should matter.
@Phoebe you are exactly right.
Beautiful? lol
@@jonpanush3973 Lol. Goofy more like.
The whole van life factor adds more fascination to the story. I agree that van life is a very popular thing nowadays.
Yes! This is the confluence of two very popular video subjects namely van life and true crime! Each group ( and I'm sure that they overlap)has thousands if not millions of fans who hang on every development!
There's really something for everybody in this story.
Van life is kinda dumb tbh. It’s cool to have it for a trip but to make it a lifestyle is meh.
Bingo! I am a part of the "van life" community (which is massive and international), and this gained so much traction from the start within the community. The media picked it up from there. They will go where the attention goes.
@Derek
No need to be disrespectful!
Why are you calling van life people losers?
That’s a decent life style like any other. You’d be surprised how successful some of these people are. It’s not all about money…you know.
Stop being such a sad soul…
I’ve been following true crime for many year and I’m quite a bit surprised by how this one blew up the way it has. I find the concept of a “white woman syndrome” interesting. I think #2 and #3 were fairly accurate. Think about it, all of our childhood stories are about white characters so, our brains are shaped early for this paradigm. But in the grand scheme of things, how does it change? We all have to independently realize that human nature is the same no matter the outer shell and evil is all around us.
The big question is why is Joy Reid being racist without being called for it.
Reverse racism, CRT, WOKEISM!
@@MrRickywallace what on earth is "reverse racism"?
@@yinkaoyekunle9533 Simply, when Blacks are racist.
@@MrRickywallace that is called being prejudice, just like anybody else. "Reverse racism" is such an odd term, that it doesn't even make logical sense. What is the reverse of anything? Answer: its antithesis or opposite. So the reverse of of racism wouldn't be... racism towards a different group. Just say that individual person is being prejudice.
@@yinkaoyekunle9533 Yeah, that's what I would say, just saying what others call it.
If Brian just went to the cops right away or if his parents did the right thing, we wouldn't have even heard of this case.
Definitely not true
Exactly. It's the sheer stupidity of the story that blew it up
Yeah ok
Exactly, it's because there's a wanted person involved in this and they haven't found him yet. The same isn't true for most other missing persons cases. In those cases they don't know who the suspects are or what happened.. the hunt isn't as defined
I wasn’t a follower but wasn’t she in the social media? Didn’t she already have a following? I don’t take away a “white women syndrome from this I take away the hidden factors of domestic abuse! I see an example of how obvious she was in distress from her abuser and it was overlooked! I am sorry if a grown women is crying I. The streets something is wrong that is common sense
What about looks? It appears that the more attractive the woman the higher attention she gets.
Attractive by who's standards....
@@oliveslices This is super interesting, and I think that's one of the big undertones of this whole "syndrome" hey? That the white woman upholds the classic and popularised Western standard of beauty, and so in turn, more people may find them attractive, thus media overwhelmingly cover the case. What do you think?
She isn't that attractive though. Just not obese.
@@Anti_everything_and_everyone But she isn't that attractive. She looks average pre obesity boom from the 60s-70s onward.
@@oliveslices attractive by society’s conventions.
Dr. Grande, you're on fire with the relevant content. 🔥 I'm glad Gabby is getting attention but there is a discrepancy. Realistically, It's just not possible to cover everyone, but I do wish the media cared more about missing people of color and missing men. Thanks for discussing this, Dr. Grande, and in such a reasonable and tasteful manner. 👍
No this is sadistic abuse of her life & 'Ted Bundy Syndrome'. Nobody cares about victims at all, this is about one person only Brain, he did this on purpose to get all the focus to be on him so it is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' there are plenty of RUclips videos with young beautiful blonde women who are drug addicts wandering homeless in the streets but nobody cares about them, this is exactly the perception of Gabby. The whole reason behind Brians total destruction of all her efforts was to reduce her to this type of spectacle which is exactly the same as the spectacle of recording young blonde attractive drug addicts wandering around it is all misogynistic schadenfreude perpetrated by men & women alike & Brian knows this*. I need to finish your video but I would be surprised if you really believe that she has any advantages over any minorities considering she is dead & all her dreams completely obliterated this is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' because nobody cares about her *they enjoy the sadistic aspects of how she was treated by Brain all of these advertising dollars are because of Brian not Gabby. Brian knew he would murder her & create this spectacle *not Gabby*. Please dont blame already & tbh eternally marginalized abused tortured women *for the attention seeking hysterics of a garbage psychopath like Brain. Nobody will ever give a damn what she wanted to do with her life, (ever, do you? to you she's just a white woman so you fell for his bs) it is all Brain the loser psychopath. Brain is the one who created this & advertising dollars for you -- not her, don't blame her. You should re-do this or delete it it is uncharecteristic of your more empirical insights.
Yes, the media like Joy Reid could be covering more stories of missing women and the murder of women of color. I find it disingenuous of Joy to be saying this since I cannot recall a story about women of color that she has covered. It's race baiting at its worst. She comes off as jealous that a white girl is getting attention.
@@quantumfineartsandfossils2152 it's Brian, and this story wouldn't get nearly the press if Gabby was plain-looking. You're right that people don't care as much about attractive junkies and hookers, but it's because they judge them as being less worthy of their attention. That is shallow, of course, but you can bet that while people can be very deep individually, as a group we will always dwell on the surface of the media. There's just too much information for most people to research stories that aren't ready-made narrative sammiches.
@@Immolate62 you are one sharp as hell man Yes the strategic doesnt usually stand a chance Good you & I both know self defense ;}
@TheHouseOfGames4 If Joy Reid made it her personal mission to promote the stories of unattractive and otherwise disadvantaged missing women and girls, she'd be well loved and poorly paid.
I am in England and I was disturbed by this case. Having thought about why I felt emotional about it, I came to the conclusion that it was how vulnerable she was. It was the police stop video that hit this home for me, she was so naive and willing to blame herself. I don’t believe it’s anything to do with race, this kind of difficulty in relationships is all around us. Thanks for your analysis.
It is about race in the states. Because missing people of color do not receive this level of media attention. It is usually reserved for young missing white women. It is ok to recognize the disparity in media coverage.
Completely agree with you. That footage of Gabby talking to the Utah police officer-and her RUclips video allowed us to see her when she was alive, and so upset etc. Some people feel like they knew personally her as a result. I also think this case is massive because Brian has come back without her and then taken off, hiding. People WANT him to be found and justice served. With many other murdered women/men/etc cases, we don’t see them suffering before hand-when we do-sometimes their case becomes massive, like the black man George Floyd that was murdered by the policeman having his knee on the guys neck-we saw him vulnerable and alive-and then he died- tragically. The Jodi Arias trial was also huge, her murdering Travis Alexander the way she did was also a very big media story, and rightly so. The police footage of her denying any knowledge of murdering Travis etc. We saw his friends talking about the way she had been stalking him etc. Very Sad for anyone that has a family member or friend murdered.
@@sonia354 its a mystery murder case. waiting for the next clue... searching for the next clue... its like reading a good novel
@@jimskeuh IF ONLY it was just a novel, except that this is reality, a real 22 yr old woman is DEAD, apparently murdered, by a person she was engaged to, and her family bury her on Sunday without answers. Bet they wish it was just a novel or a movie too.
I think of you look up the number of murdered and missing indigenous women in the same area as Gabby went missing, you'd see why people are talking about race. There have been public calls for years asking for more resources into looking up why indigenous women go missing and are murdered at much, much higher rates then any other race in the USA. Its not to take away from Gabby's tragic story, but its something to examine and not just push away.
I think one reason this case is so prominent is it involves a couple of "van lifers," even though they were just starting out and had few vlogs. Blogging van lifers are hugely popular now especially since the movie "Nomadland" came out. I follow at least a dozen and have for 1 1/2 years. When I heard about Gabby it caught my interest because she was on the road. The new nomads are a very tight community. There are built out vans everywhere now. I hope they find Laundrie and the truth comes out.
it's prominent because her hair is blonde and her eyes are blue
I don't think this person is jealous she's just mentioning what gets put on TV. ....
It's probably not that it's in missing person's syndrome is just that it's a person not wanting to report syndrome. And white women seem to be much more in my mind classically acceptable of abuse.
I have to say that I am a white woman with four domestic violence charges but have a drinking problem. I do not see many white women being charged in court. And yeah... I know I'm putting myself out there. I am the minority meaning that I am a white woman and I'm getting so nobody would be thinking that I would do it but I am completely innocent and the women who are innocent guilty.
I'm AM NOT PROUD
I'M JUST SAYING I AGREE WITH YOUR PERSONALITY ALIGNMENT.
courtney n. Damn someone is jealous. You wish you had those features and that's why you're so bitter. Facts
@@courtneyn.5910 truth. Some people don’t want to see what’s obvious.
I don’t think there’s such a thing as ‘over coverage’ of a missing person. The problem is the under coverage of the other cases. I too noticed that Gabby was white and thought to myself, I bet people will think something of this… but that doesn’t mean I hoped people would stop covering her story. We as the public cannot help what the journalists cover, and honestly I do not understand why they don’t cover all the missing cases, except like you said, when they have more interesting aspects, like mysterious circumstances.
the LORD JESUS CHRIST came into the world, taking on flesh, and HE lived perfectly, died for our sins, and rose for our justification. repent of your sins and believe in the Gospel!
Why can’t everyone just agree white lives matter more than any other color. It’s the thought in the back of our heads
@CATHERINE YANDA I know! So true. Crazy unfortunate. Fat, old, ugly, masculine etc; No, no, no! You'd have to look like a victim.
@@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX hail Satan
Coverage is a zero sum game. There is only so much time and resources available to news organizations so what they do cover does say something about us as a society because journalists want to cater to what they believe most people will want.
Thank you for bringing this to the attention of your viewers. The number of indigenous (native American and First Nations) women missing is especially horrific. Apparently no one is keeping good track of the numbers, and we hardly ever hear about them in the popular media.
I haven't noticed any native American missing cases, which makes me wonder since years. Indiginous Americans are hardly to be found in the media.
Dr. Grande is ON IT again! Interesting to follow him as the Petito-Laundrie case unfolds in real time. Maybe it would be helpful for him to feature some of the other missing person cases. He’s so good at putting information together, and with his growing fan base, perhaps presenting some of these unsolved missing cases might give them a broader platform and a better chance at being found. You just never know. If sparking interest in these cases helps just one person, it would be so worth it.
Yes. There is room for quite a few sequences here 😀
Here’s my analysis, Joy Reid could do her own coverage of missing black females with the platform she has available. Instead of that she plays the race bait card. I’m guessing that lines her own pockets more effectively than practicing what she’s preaching.
@@RealmCenter40 as long as you are just guessing, you should hold yourself above attacking other people in that way.
Not saying her age/beauty has nothing to do with it but this case is quite unique and very dramatic with Brian’s behaviour/body cam footage etcetera. US has around 3000 missing person cases every year a very small number gets any attention even though a lot of them is white people. Probably has more to do with the unusual circumstances in this case.
@@michaellykke100 I’m not guessing about the part where she could use her available platform to report on missing black females instead of race baiting. Does she care or not about missing black women? Simple question. Me making a guess as to why she is not using her platform to do so is my theory and I’m entitled to it just like anyone is entitled to believe you can identify as a dinosaur or badminton racket. I think one of the two thoughts is more grounded in reality but again, everyone is entitled to their stances.
I love that you're discussing all POVs in this case. Thanks, Dr. Grande! ❤️
It’s not about race as much as perceived “attractiveness”. In my life I’ve seen numerous missing persons cases and regardless of their race, they were all attractive. The media can keep a 24 news cycle going on a case about a pretty female because it keeps the publics attention.
True but then the question becomes: who is the beauty standard in America and/or television? It comes right back to white women. Which is also why people don't care for missing men of any race.
@@smilebehappy6102 I don't care for joy Reid but the syndrome is not new and precedes whatever CEO is currently at the news helm
Attractiveness also goes into race because white features are favored 🤷
@@PardonMyPresence Maybe so but again even on most youtube's about this you still see many black and Latin men and women throwing in their theories and sympathies about Gabby.
Which goes back to that there is a standard of beauty in America and evidently most people consciously or subconsciously feel it's a hot young blonde
You don't see many brunettes making the big news outlets either.
OR one theory we may be missing is the dumb blonde/most women's biggest rival. Be Nicole Brown, Natalie Holloway, Gabby Petito, etc they all are very attractive, way too trusting, and do things the rest of us probably wouldn't do. Factor that in that most hot young blondes can likely wreck any marriage in America perhaps you could also argue that most women deep down enjoy hearing about their suffering subconsciously.
Once my black uncle was talking with his black-friend neighbors. The subject of a mutual friend came up about a new girlfriend. The question was asked again about whether the new girlfriend was pretty. Apparently agitated that the guy wasn't paying attention, my uncle repeats what the friend said: "He said that she was white." Yeah, attractiveness can be associated with skin color, especially if the skin color is no color, I guess, "white."
You’re THE BEST!!! Thank you for addressing this! And, I’ve said it before, your voice is so soothing. Great job!!
🤦🏾♂️But the MWW narrative is incorrect. Gabby Petito was a social media celebrity. Also her story (the weird circumstances of disappearance) is what made her case take off. It wasn't because she was just a "white woman". Plenty of white women disappear and no one hear about them.
@@hus390 How was she a social media celebrity? Her RUclips channel has one video on it and the majority of her subs came after her disappearance. I’m not saying this to be mean, I seriously don’t understand how she would even be considered an influencer much less a celebrity.
This case literally ticks every box, aside from being "just" white she's also blond, cute, thin and seemingly perky, outgoing and sociable.
Well also she’s a major influencer that other influencers organically brought focus and attention to the case because they genuinely cared about one of their own.
@@BrandonJohnson-bx1ht Don't know if she was a "major" influencer, I had never heard of her before ... but that comment by her bf about her "little blog" was pretty telling. It doesn't take much these days to get a decent following, especially if you're cute and perky. That "dis" by someone supposedly close to you speaks volumes.
I think its extremely news worthy and does not or should not diminish any other missing person. We are all valued citizens.
@@yx534 I think it has more to do with her featuring her life on social media on a daily basis. It happened basically in real time and for the social media population to see. That coupled with body cam footage, 911 calls, multiple witnesses, and other very visible events. Most missing and murdered people have not virtually left such exposure in real time. Do I think missing white women syndrome exists, absolutely, but this case isn't an example of one in my opinion. Many other reasons this is so covered
A lot of people ENVY others who are in possession of any and all of those traits. The race whine is just a macro-aggression wrapped up in cope.
I think the term itself, “missing white girl syndrome” is a terrible expression that demeans the victims of these crime and women in general. It suggests a missing person who is missing because of their own hysteria rather than the act of a criminal. The differential news reporting phenomenon is a horse of a different color and an insectional analysis leads to some interesting social observations and connotations.
What would you call it? I just tried to come up with a new name and I can't think of one that's catchy or short enough to describe it.
@@all8273 "Look At This, Instead of Other World Events" Syndrome.
Tabloid Journalism
@@ignominius3111 boom! Nailed it!
To quote a comment I read when this case first broke: "She's a cutie. I hope she's okay." In this particular case, I do feel there are factors that have contributed to the huge media coverage and public outcry/interest that go beyond race. But the fact remains that most people feel more sympathy for their own in-group than for those outside of it (please don't start the "not-me" stuff -- you know what I mean). My own mother (a "christian") admitted she cares more about endangered white children than about those of "other people."
Everyone already knows this, and with your history what your mom said is really a no Brainer. The thing you won't admit though is that it goes beyond "in group" favoritism, it's much more sinister.
All of modern culture is skewed and biased towards the Great White Man-stay overly proud, or stay overly humbled. I’m glad I do my own research. It not only enlightened me, but gave me humility.
Unfortunately it's just an instinctual hard wired aspect of our being. In group-preference. The best we can do is be aware of it and do our best to divide our attention as equally as possible but you can't control what people care about.
Though there's a LOT about this case which makes it interesting aside from Gabby being young, white and attractive.
Why can’t we just care about endangered people period who really gives af what race they are. They’re HUMANS! Jesus Christ I swear this world will forever be in shit.
@Billie Jean So you just answered your own question?
I feel like this case is different in that Gabby was part of the online "influencer" crowd and it was those people that realized something was wrong and the story took hold on social media which lead to news outlets picking it up. Gabby was documenting their trip and people were following their movements...when everything stops before the trip has concluded, it sent up red flags. Social media puts a lot of garbage out there, but it can be very powerful when it comes together for a particular cause.
This is his 3rd video on this. He is trying to make $$$$$ Exactly, this video is so out of place. WW syndrome has nothing to do with her.
@@gardenwonder7977 People also send him requests asking him to do case analysis regarding certain people and topics both new and old. He discusses a lot of "hot topics" and I wouldn't doubt that he made this video in response to the whole "White Woman Syndrome" drama that is going around versus simply trying to make $$$. To think $ wouldn't be a perk of making any video would be pretty ignorant. He's not the first to make multiple videos, but at least he does it with objectivity and isn't trying to sensationalize it.
The documentation, the social media following that Gabby had is obvious why this has received so much attention, it's like a movie playing out before us. Humans are interested in tragedy
Everything has multiple reasons of course but her being young white and beautiful and also middle class is one of them bc it makes her relatable to a certain demographic that is considered the norm in this country
@@jaybradshaw7900 I know and understand that, I believe her race still plays a part , but all of the footage surrounding her death does also. We have body cam footage from police officers watching her cry. We have her last texts and posts . I think this case is interesting because we can hear and see in actual video that something is terribly wrong.
This is the reason why I love watching Forensic Files. They feature cases involving all races
@@thereisnothinghere8829 imo what made the show was the show's narrator, Peter Thomas
@@ultraviolet6989 I'm a voice actor who narrates audio books, documentaries, commercials, P.S.A.'s etc.
Peter Thomas is my all time favorite narrator.
Good morning Dr. Grande❤️ What a perfect way to start the morning! A cup of coffee & an upload from you!! Thank you!!
Thank you for pointing out the many aspects that make a case “interesting” to the media, I couldn’t agree more. I think any time a case has elements that are common to the human experience such as love, relationships, and obviously alligators 😂, that will certainly attract a lot of attention. Many young woman could have been in Gabby’s shoes since unstable relationships are not that uncommon for people at this age. The fact that we can relate at some level to the case, will certainly make it extremely appealing to the public.
Your analysis was on point as always, thank you! ❤️
Rejane;Beautiful comment as usual 😁🎋
@@cottontails9003 Thank you sweetie! ☺️😘
This case was only covered because Gabby was an attractive white blonde female. 400 other women all of Native American descent went missing in the same area, all with different circumstances. Not one was covered. This case hit the jackpot because she checked all the boxes FEMALE, WHITE, BLONDE, and ATTRACTIVE.
For you to deny it is absurd and shows your white privilege. When you can not even admit something so obvious it just shows the rest of us how hateful this society is geared toward anyone outside of the ideal.
You are trying to lump in alligators as if it fed into the frenzy.
This was a case about a virginal looking white woman, and nothing more.
You know, other missing person cases will also have their own points of interest, and story to tell. Gaby Petito is not special in that regard. Emphasising the particular features in her case, to explain or justify the media coverage, is symptomatic of Missing White Woman Syndrome.
@@pedroalmodovar1323 My white privilege?🤔
FYI, I am not white and I am an immigrant. Even still, I don’t think this case is a missing white woman syndrome.
Dr. Grande, thank you for an excellent job addressing this issue. You noted that many consider bad things happening to minorities as part of the norm, while similar events occurring to non-minorities is seen with concern and is considered unusual. Similarly, minorities who suffer pain and illnesses in hospitals express complaints that are not taken seriously, often to their demise.
This is all we’re trying to say! The newsrooms that report these crimes focus on women who share the same socio-economic class and race as them, that’s why they’re more interested in telling stories about them. They think nothing of such things happening to women of other culture and classes because it’s believed that no one cares, or the women deserved it. The white, middle class, male controlled newsrooms are interested in young, conventionally attractive white women because that’s what interests white men!
No, it’s just that video with Moab police. So everyone who watches it feels kinda guilty that the murder wasn’t prevented. We want to redo what cannot be redone
Dr. Grande does it again 🙌 On point, accurately "reading the room".
Yes! He does know the temperature BUT he stays true to himself which is more important imo!
Exactly, Maria!
@@bthomson I agree. Good for pointing that out, too.
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I believe everyone deserves the amount of time and resources put into the Gabby case. Regardless of race creed or color 🤔 😤 💯
But the reality is they don't and never will so...
But you're here commenting on Gabby's case. There are RUclips videos about other missing persons. I do agree with you btw, but publicity doesn't follow what is deserved, but rather what we click and comment on.
@@johndough23 True, certain people are deemed "higher value" than others.
Ironically, it's usually the "lower value" people who are most at risk.
This same construct applies to animals, rodents and insects as well.
We don't eat dogs, cats and horses, in America anyway, yet we eat cows, chickens and pigs everyday.🤔
Also, roaches are despised, but not butterflys. 🤔
And also gender
@@Immolate62 I look into all cases. ♡ my partner is a poc, so I take it very seriously 💗 being with them has taught me so much and enlightened me. It makes me sick to know- if it was them & I in this situation, they would have thrown them in jail asap. None of this person of Interest BS. I have talked about how it's unfair. And I agree. Everyone regardless of race creed color or gender deserves this amount of attention. Have a great night all ❤
The idea that men are happy about women being abducted so there's less competition at work sounds so incredibly stupid.
I love how you included the names of both missing white and missing minority females in recent years. Right there is the proof of the existence of MWW Syndrome.. Sadly, I've never heard of these people of color and their stories. The same amount of fervor in locating the missing should be applied across the board.
Hundreds of thousands go missing each year and most are found alive. Hundreds of thousands are shot each year.
@@JonahJayTaylor name one black woman who wasn't a celebrity, that was a victim of domestic violence and was murdered and received national attention, media obsession and daily analysis. Just name ONE.....
@@queenadventures4258 FACTS.
@@chinwe6686 well said
@@queenadventures4258 seriously? Lol smh. Plenty, but most thses issues r delt with on local media level.
I've heard of this. I remember when Lacy Peterson was missing. A Pregnant Mother of color, and her 6 year old Son disappeared around that time. She, or her Child Never got any where near the attention.
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multiple white men were killed by police the same week as George Floyd. They didn't get ANY coverage.
What city or cities?
@@slang1517 Were they also killed unjustly/brutally suffocated in broad daylight by a law enforcement officer?
@@slang1517 names?
I think there is a class/status element to this. Example: you won't hear about about a working girl (of any colour) going missing from the streets of Detroit. This is an interesting and complex subject.. but yes, pretty, white, middle/upper class females do get more media focus if they go missing.
Because they have less risk factors and are less likely to go missing
The majority of the US population is white and therefore can relate to Gabby and feel a stronger connection with her compared to non-whites who have gone missing. It's only natural for people to be more interested in and care for their own people more than others. This doesn't mean that white people shouldn't care about non-whites, I'm just saying that it's natural for people to care about their own people more than others, and as the US population is mostly white it only makes sense that Gabby's story would gain a lot of attention and interest.
No this is sadistic abuse of her life & 'Ted Bundy Syndrome'. Nobody cares about victims at all, this is about one person only Brain, he did this on purpose to get all the focus to be on him so it is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' there are plenty of RUclips videos with young beautiful blonde women who are drug addicts wandering homeless in the streets but nobody cares about them, this is exactly the perception of Gabby. The whole reason behind Brians total destruction of all her efforts was to reduce her to this type of spectacle which is exactly the same as the spectacle of recording young blonde attractive drug addicts wandering around it is all misogynistic schadenfreude perpetrated by men & women alike & Brian knows this*. I need to finish your video but I would be surprised if you really believe that she has any advantages over any minorities considering she is dead & all her dreams completely obliterated this is more 'Ted Bundy Syndrome' because nobody cares about her *they enjoy the sadistic aspects of how she was treated by Brain all of these advertising dollars are because of Brian not Gabby. Brian knew he would murder her & create this spectacle *not Gabby*. Please dont blame already & tbh eternally marginalized abused tortured women *for the attention seeking hysterics of a garbage psychopath like Brain. Nobody will ever give a damn what she wanted to do with her life, (ever, do you? to you she's just a white woman so you fell for his bs) it is all Brain the loser psychopath. Brain is the one who created this & advertising dollars for you -- not her, don't blame her. You should re-do this or delete it it is uncharecteristic of your more empirical insights.
LOL at anyone saying “‘missing white woman syndrome” but those people ain’t ready to talk about missing black father in the home syndrome 🤭
I really think this is getting attention because she was posting to instagram. If prostituts posted adventures to instagram then went missing in the company of a paying customer we'd pay attention.
In the case of Ms Petito, there was a lot of video available, and the incongruence of the tiktok vids when viewed with the police bodycam footage....I think more information just gives it more viewer time.
After seeing more than a dozen mentions of this case in my Google / general news feeds over the last day, I literally found myself asking myself 3 hours ago why the whole world is suddenly following this one story about a young, white and attractive woman when this case has no obvious dissimilarities to literally hundreds of others that are reported every day in America.
Dr. Grande, you are an acutely astute academic.
To me she's not attractive at all. It's not why I'm following it.
@@flyandshy00 you’re saying that as if you’re any prettier lmao
@@TheeEnglishKnight She didn't mean that. I don't think that I'm attractive or pretty, even tho many has said that, but I still have my own opinions. For example I can say that Kim Kardashian isn't beautiful imo even tho most ppl find her very beautiful. But I still don't mean that I'm prettier than Kim Kardashian.
@@TheeEnglishKnight
Oh come on that is mean & uncalled for and not on topic. What Fly commented in the context of her response was not a put down, but refuting that she was attractive. Beauty is often in the eye of the beholder.
@@flyandshy00 Your not unattractive. Especially that your a woman & you play chess, that's hot af.
I can't be the only one who always wished a girlfriend would play chess (I looked at your channel).
Oh I can't believe I didn't mention this already. I think specifically regarding the Gabby Petito case, it's useful to note that one out of three women will be in a domestically abusive relationship in their lifetime. That's a lot of women out there who related to this story, just as I did, the moment we watched her crying in that body cam police video.
I agree ☝️.
It must be painful for people of color to live in that reality. Some time back I read about many missing teens from the Big Island Hawaii, it was a blogger who kept writing about it, very scary indeed. Yet the media does not talk about these Hawaiian teens or the many Native American women missing in Wyoming.
I am a immigrant and love this country but do not understand why Native Americans get this horrible treatment. Thank you for this presentation.
Over 320,000 white people went missing in the US in 2020. How many of these got national attention? This case got public attention due to a number of factors; She had a social media presence - The mystery of what happened between her and her boyfriend - Where is Brian Laundrie now - The way social media helped discover evidence. Maybe white people do relate more to other white people, just like other races relate more to their own race. Should we feel shame for this? I don't.
Think logically and politically about this (I hate to say that's where we are ....but this is where we are). These stories end up being not about the victim....but who the media can attack as the villain. Who is the best villain to have in today's society....based solely of how our culture is shaping out? It gives you the answers you seek as to why the these other tragic crimes are not being covered by the Media. It doesn't fit the narrative....it doesn't help further the goal. Divide and conquer.
As a member of the Cherokee tribe, I've found the number of mission Cherokee women alone to be quite disconcerting. The US has a long tradition of abusing native people. When whites realized they could never succeed at enslaving natives, they did everything they could to destroy natives and their culture instead. The US slaughtered nearly 300 helpless and unarmed Lakota people at Wounded Knee, and there were soldiers given metals for their "heroics", and the abuse continues in smaller forms to this day. From things like my cousin being given field sobriety test often due to the assumption he must be an alcoholic because he is native, to the fact that the police use lethal force against natives at an even higher rate than they do against blacks. The only bright spot is that more and more tribes are able to meaningfully help their members now days.
@@member5488 I also think in the Internet age the tide is finally turning toward awareness of the struggles of native peoples and other minorites that were and are still imposed by the majority in power. Especially for young people, I see a willingness to listen and find ways to correct the habits and attitudes that contribute to further harm.
I'm big into "true crime" in general. I listen to true crime pod casts, and I hear stories where the victims are all different races. To me, it's the story itself, the different components to it...that gets me interested. There are many "I survived" episodes where the victims are not white that stand out to me the most & literally get to me the most.
The reporting in the media is disproportionate for white women.
I've been fascinated by true crime when it was only broadcast on tv. I hear stories involving all races as well. BUT, the overwhelming majority is white. Go to any true crime RUclipsr's or Podcaster's playlist. Look thru it. Amost all of their videos are about white people. They sprinkle in a few blacks, Latinos, etc to seem all inclusive. Then look at the views. The minority cases generate less views usually.
True crime is not the same as news.
Maybe we need to accept that media isn't a perfect reflection of reality.
We should never accept the news not reflecting reality. That’s ridiculous.
@Mister Me you may try anything you like
@@lford1130 kind of intresting how big of a difference there is between what we want to hear and reality.
@Billie Jean the assortment of videos available to you when you open an service like RUclips is based off what it thinks you want to watch, maybe the algorithm thinks you're racist?
@Mister Me I would like to see better as well, I dont think the place "missing white woman syndrome" was thought up is going to get a more accurate reflection of reality.
As much as I hate to bring race into this story, I suppose there is some truth. I was stationed in Colorado Springs years ago when Jon Benet Ramsey was found dead. The news media did give 15 seconds to a Latina woman whose child was also found dead on the same day. The Latina said she was certain less effort would be spent on her daughter's case than Jon Benet's.
Why do you "hate" bringing race into it 🤔
It's a real problem that we desperately need to address.
Well JonBenet's parents being loaded helped that case get as much attention too because unlike a normal family they could hire all kinds of PR people.
It for sure had to do with her being white and pretty and blonde but her families $$$$ took it to a whole different level
Do you have the info on that case, how it ended, was the criminal brought to justice?
@@Jessica-gy6kr Because it's really about what the media can sensationalize - they are the evil ones. It's rich versus poor. Well known versus unknown. Consider this case - none of those parents are poor.
Making it a racial issue just divides us normal folk.
Really refreshing to hear this take from a more objective and data-based approach. I think it can be really challenging to broach these topics without getting emotional, but the way you validated this phenomenon gives much more legitimacy because you backed it up with irrefutable facts and statistics.
This case is nothing about colour. It’s because it’s extremely relatable to a huge population and also that everyone had an insight into their lives via blogs/photos etc. it’s a case that allows people to do their own digging and trying to find clues on their own.
I'm surprised that this analysis misses what I consider to be the most important thing raising this case in public awareness: the fact that Gabby Petito had an ongoing viewing audience who was monitoring her social media posts during the period in which she disappeared. She was already a public personality in a small way. This seemed so obvious to me that I was really annoyed when a lot of people jumped up to shove it into the Missing White Girl box to further their own agendas. Yes, endemic racism is a serious problem in this country, but not every issue involving a white person is an issue of white privilege.
Also, it angered me that people would be so willing to add to the anguish of the Petito family, as if poor Gabby or her family were somehow guilty of exploiting white privilege to get attention for themselves.
@@donnievance1942 right? i was just as obsessed with the kenneka jenkins case, and am constantly praying for justice for her.
I think ppl are missing the point. Missing white woman syndrome is about the media reaction. It does not suggest or diminish the reasons this poor girl was murdered. It is a false equivalency to jump to accusations of racism. Pls don't dismiss this syndrome. We had a very similar case here in 🇬🇧. Unfortunately women of all races go missing but the press is more likely to report and storybuild when a white woman is involved. No one has said Gabby Petito fits into this syndrome. Pls don't knee jerk. I hope those close to her have the space to heal one day
@@misswashington6525 As a fellow 🇬🇧 - I applaud your comment 👏 Well said!
Sometimes all I want to say is ,Thank You, Dr.Grande.” Thank you for all you do , in the unique way that only you do so well. 🌸
Gabby's case checks other boxes for interest: young, pretty, from a prosperous background. There doesn't tend to be interest in middle-aged dollar store clerks, or drug-addicted sex workers, unless there are a lot of them.
Perfectly said Flora, and I wholeheartedly agree. Is there any sensationalism
in a missing minority drug addicted girl working as a cashier at Walmart, or
the Dollar Store. No, media companies want stories that appeal to the middle
and upper middle white class sectors of society, because they get maximum
viewership, and that translates to "maximum" dollar returns in advertising sales. The more viewers, the more you can sell your advertising for. It all boils
down to money $$$. The White market has 80 % of the money, and they want
that.
@@grantp4022 This is going to sound harsh, but it's not intended to be: the qualities that made Gabby a good influencer (and she was good; I think she would have been a success) also made her an "interesting" murder victim to the public.
I do think socioeconomic status play into it as much as whether someone is white. People expect the drug-addicted sex worker to possibly end up murdered.
I've never been too interested in missing persons, aside from MMIW, until this case, due to the public information available on the couple's whereabouts and the fact that we were literally able to piece together clues in real time. In a lot of MP cases there is not a lot of information to go off of, but oftentimes cases don't get enough attention from media or authorities. I want to see the same techniques that were used to help find Gabby's remains put to work on finding other missing persons such as Jelani Day and Ashley Heavy Runner. Both of these individuals have similarly mysterious circumstances and clue trails that can be followed, and up until recently Jelani's case hadn't been given much attention because he went missing at the height of Gabby's case. Ashley Heavy Runner's family has had to fund their own investigations because the authorities haven't even analyzed evidence found in connection to her disappearance.
This is a really productive comment you are right it is unfair to overlook al the excellent virtual sleuthing going on yes
@@quantumfineartsandfossils2152 Yes, agreed!
What is MMIW?
@@AliBaba-ke5jn Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women (and Girls) - an epidemic.
Thank you for this info. I care much for all missing cases, but I always wonder how and why some cases, such as this one, blows up with media attention while so many others do not.
I didnt know about this syndrome until I saw your video. But I already noticed how weird and unfair it was that only this time, a missing person on the other side of the ocean was all over the news where I live (the Netherlands). And later again the updated news of the homicide.
I think a lot of people recognized similarities in their personal experiences with abusive partners, also parents who unfortunately lost their children due to it. I’ve also seen people say the case has brought focus to it in general, that maybe it could help other victims.
Also when the cop claimed the 911 caller said he never hit her, but a call was made public that contradicted it. Not to mention how this story played out. It’s bizarre. I fully agree it’s not an example of WWS.
Fully agree. I just made a video about this case and how it affected me seeing the bodycam footage as a dv survivor
Joy Reid (on NBC) wasn't talking about abuse, bringing up that term - She was talking about race. ... Which, the whole thing is ridiculous.
It’s definitely both: there are all of the factors you named PLUS the factors listed by Dr. Grande. Gabby was pretty and she embodied who people perceive needing protection, AND it could be solved soon. But how many cases about missing WOC have similar details do we not hear about and why? That’s a serious problem.
@Billie Jean if you watch Dr Grande’s content, you probably shouldn’t use fallacies in your response. I see a whataboutism & a strawman. It doesn’t contribute any value to the conversation.
@Billie Jean Well, I don't know about that ... But Brian has been behaving very `guilty` ... for a while.
Very well thought out, nuanced and put. Could you imagine if the mainstream news media were like this?
I've been a little embarrassed about being so emotionally invested in a crime case involving two people I've never even met. This is a wonderful topic and very straightforward explanation of the response to the Pettito/Laundrie case. I wouldn't expect anything less from Dr. Grande. Thanks for helping me understand myself in a more positive way,, Dr. Grande. You rock!😎
It can be very addictive.
Gabby's case represents a lot of women in any country being in a toxic relationship. Their relationship is told real time through social media and police body cam.
Developing self awareness is the root of personal power. Good job!
Brilliant analysis ! I was stunned when someone accused me of falling into the "Missing white woman" trap because I was gripped by this true story. I was compelled by the Gaby Petito case because of its unusual complexity and strange narrative about what would normally be quite ordinary young people . It has every twist and turn you would expect in a movie rather than real life ! Every woman can relate to Gaby; regardless of colour or ethnicity simply through the act of being a mother or sister or friend or by their own experience ! Men can relate to the story not just as a father or friend or brother but by desiring to call to account one of their own ! The tragic story of a young woman wanting to be loved and chasing her dreams ,but inadvertantly choosing to follow a path that leads her to her own doom and eventual death is compelling to everyone who has ever loved or dreamed. Every body can feel empathy for a love gone so wrong ending in a life taken regardless of ethnicity . This tragic case is made more facinating by the fact this nightmare scenario is illustrated by so many pretty pictures . This story illustrates the folly of a fantasy taken too far . We all dream and that is what ,we the public share with Gaby ! Her whiteness is irrelevent .Dreams should not end in murder !
The relatability is definitely a factor in public fascination. Many women have been in some sort of abusive relationship, whether physical or mental
The racism regarding this case has been disgusting. Imagine how her parents feel, being told that the country only cares about her daughter’s disappearance and death because she’s white.
@@clarissa8477 this isn’t racism lol. Some people do care just because she is white. Imagine how her parents feel… how did Trayvon martin’s parents feel?
@@clarissa8477 I think there are more cases of "disgusting" racism. In the same area tons of indigenous women are missing and found murdered. None get the coverage like this, all of them also have hopes and dreams and family... and get none of the coverage and police help.
I have had people in my life murdered by an ex or spouse, and their stories hardly gained any coverage while they were missing. Can most of us relate to Gabby, sadly yes. But IMO People tend to relate more with those they identify with. So if people see their loved ones; Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Daughter, Son, in the victim(s) they are bound to care more about the story. I don't think it's done purposely, at least not by most. As someone who's tragically lost both relatives and friends, I feel for her family and every person that truly loves her while simultaneously recognizing that bias exist. I also feel for those that loved Brian, not knowing his true nature, that's a different type of hell.
I like the comment about naively travelling with someone when there's trouble in the relationship and lessons to learn. That has been my focus. What lessons can young women learn from this.
What if I said Proverbs 13:13 would have prevented all this?
How about the lessons men can learn about their anger? 3 women die everyday the US by domestic related issues. Why are we addressing woman when we should be addressing men.
@@renaehenderson9625 Who is Erin Pizzey?
And why do feminists silence try their hardest to ostracize and silence her?
@@renaehenderson9625 RUclips: watch?v=qAzQg3TtCYE
@@doomguy510 Does it explain to men snd boys that they should keep their opinions about women and their hands to themselves?
Here's a test, there's another missing woman with similar but not exact circumstances going on in the Midwest right now, and since the Petito case started. Can you name her? She's hispanic
😂 nope
Thank you Dr. G for all your updates on this case. I was literally just reading more articles when you uploaded 🔔
I feel every life matters. Unfortunately, the fact is that she was a beautiful young lady, and the fact everyone knew she was being abused by Brian gave this case higher popularity.
I will say, though, that being in a Domestic Violence situation is very very difficult. I live in that hell every single day.
Abused by brian? We have one witness saying that, ONE. Unless you want to count Gabby's best friend who claimed herself Brian didn't like her. Brian had wounds from GABBY'S attacks in the police cam, Gabby didn't have a SINGLE scratch or a SINGLE bruise or a SINGLE red mark on her. Had she of been abused, where's the physical proof? Dude said he saw her get slapped several times less then an hour before cops pulled them over. Where's the proof? You can see MUCH of her skin, and I don't see a single blemish.
@@DaggsTheCurious is her being found deceased enough proof for you I've been slapped and you don't always see it Face was red she was upset about nothing you realize you're talking about a young girl who was murdered so that should be enough for you to realize she was in a abusive relationship and now she's not here anymore so what do you think now???
@William Tell relationship that's abusive after while the woman fights back they are tired of it ! If you haven't been in an abusive relationship then you know nothing about it
also the 911 caller saw Brian slap gabby a few times but the police didn't question Brian about it
I love how you can dead pan make a really funny comment with a dead straight face. (The 🐊). Thanks for a balanced, insightful take on this.
Rachel - Your word "balanced" is the perfect word for Dr. Grande!🤹
Patrice O'Neal has a great segment in "Elephant in the room" about this and I couldn't help thinking about it the whole time this was going on.
Yeah, same. I don't thinks it's "PC" to point this out and even if it is that doesn't mean it's a wrong point.
Yarp, they sent one guy to look for them while standing on the beach...lol
@@crumpetsandteaparty the greatest ever ❤️
The funny part is even the black females in the audience knew the white girls names...The media can only report the news, they can't force people to like it. If there is no new information, the case/story will die. The last big story I remember is Kobe Bryant's helicopter crash. For those who don't know, Kobe and his daughter are black and this was in the news for at least a month. It was tragic even though it was fairly clear what happened. This is NOT about race, it's about a father's love for his daughter and tragically he died with her. The whole reason Kobe even bought a helicopter was to get around traffic and spend more time with family. There were many variables that made this a huge news story. Does anyone remember the white people on the helicopter that died?
I liked Michael Jordan growing up and stopped watching basketball before Kobe was a big name. The thing is...it is rarely about race and more about variables that are more complex and time consuming to dissect.
ELIZABETH SMART!!! 😅
Now, you did that totally awe-inspiring. 👏🏽 I'm a Black female, over 65, who lived in Florida all my life. Oh, and let me add, I love both of those female Black reporters you mentioned. I love your channel, share it with friends, and don't miss an episode, as if you were, Dragnet or Colombo. When I saw the titled, I thought, w/the eye roll, oh no, don't attack that subject. Elated to say, you hit the ball out of the park. I've seen you make homeruns before, however, this beautiful tight walk dance was spectacular, and to end it w/ the alligator analogy; what a crescendo! Keep up the great work !
Believe me, age also plays a part. I'm 60, no one would be looking for me on this grand scale if I disappeared because they would just think I ran away or something. Personal appearance has something to do with it also because Gabby was very pretty.
@60 is the New 40 with Christallin! I must be well below average then.
I don't mean to laugh but the way u said that is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
@60 is the New 40 with Christallin! Average is considered pretty with white pple. That's the furthest they can get. All shade 💅
@60 is the New 40 with Christallin!, in the scheme of things, your opinion on her appearance is of no consequence.
Are you a narcissist?
@@Sebastian-ss8lo, are you a troll?
Great analysis of the situation, and I agree. I don’t think it’s missing white women syndrome. It’s because they had a following on social media, were documenting their trip, had lots of pictures, seemed happy, all until she went missing. It was a mystery unfolding before our eyes, and everyone had a lot of questions. He came back without her, then police footage of their conversations with the police came out for everyone to see, and everyone came up with their own theories. People started saying that you can’t always tell from social media how a relationship really is, was he an abuser, was she an abuser, why wasn’t he talking to police and cooperating? The media had A LOT to talk about, and so did we. With others who just go missing, we don’t have all of that.
Just like with Natalee Holloway, it wasn’t because she was white, it was because it was so unusual, there was video of her with those guys, they lied to police, her parents were there looking for her, telling the media all about it. The family obviously had money, so they probably made sure their daughter had the coverage she had. Plenty of other white girls go missing and don’t get that coverage, just as minorities go missing and don’t have that. A black man in his 20’s went missing, and some woman said it was the same as the Gabby Petito case. Um.... no, it’s absolutely nothing at all like it. He’s a grown man who just didn’t show up and might not have wanted to be found. There’s no photos of him on a trip with a person who came back without him and wouldn’t talk to police. She’s trying to make this racist, and it’s just not.
I would ask you to substitute Gabby and Brian for a same-sex white female couple. I have no doubt they would NOT get the same amount of coverage in the media. Also, the murdered same-sex married couple have not gotten half the media coverage as Gabby, and there is an unknown assailant roaming freely in regards to their case.
And I would also ask you substitute missing Jelani for a white, young, handsome male geologist. The media would also heavily cover such a disappearance.
Race, gender, age, and socioeconomic status DOES play a part in media coverage, and Gabby's media coverage hit all checkboxes for MWWS classification.
@@mb5ggX2SyFMM Bingo! Its sort of fucked up but its obviously the case and has been like that for decades, not sure why it can’t be accepted as a reality in American media
Definitely white woman missing focus on news
I appreciate Dr. Grande's dry humor that pops up here and there. 🐊
Right?
Yup you gotta really listen to catch it lol
You need to add an "I'm more compelling than an alligator" t-shirt to your merch.
Agreed. Would totally buy.. or have my husband buy for me.
@@piparalegal2019 ~HAHA!! I TOTALLY FEEL YA GIRL❤️❤️
It’s true. This case had a lot of updates, visual aspects, the need for others to come forward, unusual circumstances, etc. on the other hand, I’ve seen a city of 350K come to dire life to find 2 missing black children in a desperate attempt to find them before a major storm hit. Tens of thousands of people searched city and wilderness to find them in time and everyone paid attention.
When and where?
That is community right there.
This is something that I’ve definitely thought about when hearing about this case. I know that people hate to bring race into things but as someone who is black and white, I will say that there IS a tendency to give a lot more attention to white women, especially those who are made to look like an all American girl or as one online article put it, “America‘s daughter.”
Think about the Instagram model who was murdered a couple of months ago; look at how quickly and abruptly that story has been forgotten.
And it’s not just about stories being forgotten or getting more or less coverage, a big issue is that the media portrays the missing people or murder victims in a certain way based on their race.
One very important factor that keeps being ignored is the family of the missing person. Some families, regardless of race or gender, pester the media and law enforcement in order to bring it into the public view thereby increasing the the likelihood of a sighting. More attention to this factor might encourage families to assert themselves more.
This is so true!
Thats exactly what i thought.
Agree the father going to act tough on Dr Phil and his police statement seemed odd.
Overly macho
So right! Non-white people may feel that they will be ignored, but Gabby's parents were ignored for several days until it was obvious that they were not going to give up.
That doesn’t add up. I’m following lots of cases. Most of them are from the ‘minorty’ groups. A lot of the parents gone immediatly to the police but they were not taken seriously. The parents then immediately started their own searches. They often do not have the means and the inputs to share information through the mainstream media. I found them because people ask for help and information via Facebook. And that is very difficult. We are in a world where apparently certain skin color determines others' efforts. While God is for everyone. That should be the guiding principle: We are there for each other.
About the strange theory about men wanting to see job-competitors hurt: if a theory sounds idiotic, it may be because it is idiotic.
More divisive identity politics. It’s all idiotic.
Thank you for providing an honest, insightful analysis of a volatile topic. Though I believe 100% that Missing White Woman Syndrome is a real media practice, the obsessive coverage of the Gabby Petito case may better be described as Missing Influencer Syndrome - a distinctly 21st Century form of privilege.
Unfortunately it’s true. When you look at the amount of black, brown and indigenous women who are missing or have been murdered and compare their lack of coverage to white women it’s appalling.
@@deadmanswife3625 You Don't Care About That Family Wendy Don't Kid Yourself.
Classic "Whataboutism"
No, it's not
It is an absurd argument to look at one single case of a white woman then proclaim "the media only cares about whites". Literally any amount of critical thinking would show you this is wrong. The opposite is likely true- the media has a hard on for any crime involving a white perpetrator and colored victim despite the inverse essentially being 10x more common
Perfect example is police shootings. 2x as many unarmed whites are killed by police, yet the media only every covered black victims.
@@deadmanswife3625 they are antiwhites so they will always reach an anti-white conclusion regardless of the facts. Morally bankrupt individuals