I just skied a Vertis 175 in Perisher, Australia for five days, and they were an absolute joy. Was teaching my five year old for three hours in the mornings on either fresh or cord, and then skiing myself in the afternoons on bombed out turning to slush. They coped with every condition and were incredibly playful, dynamic and held an edge without chatter at speed. Through the season, I also enjoyed the Kanjo 84 and the Declivity 82, but they didn’t hold an edge on hardpack quite as well. I also tried the Kendo 88 again, but it was just too heavy for me (not all chairs have footrests in Aus). For me, the Vertis was the ski of the season! (I’m 5.10’ 155lbs)
Thanks for sharing, Miles! We were very pleased to get pretty much all positive feedback on this ski for each of the past two years--was a very nice surprise, and glad to hear you've shared some of that experience! SE
Today is the last day of our ski trip in Queenstown New Zealand; and we will fly back to Sydney tomorrow. I rent the vertis birdie (159cm) for three days (with the atomic hawx prime 100) . I had very pleasant experience. I did want to rent a kanjo or stance 84 (they are on the top of my shopping list) but they were not available. The weather wasn’t ideal at Remarkable. It was hailing and snowing this afternoon with VERY poor visibility. However as I have already remembered the blue track and there weren’t many skiers, I was able to ski as fast as I could (and safely)….. so here is my 2cents: The skis held up generally very well. It’s quite stable at a high speed, although I did wish it could have some metals… at low to mid speed, it had no problem at all. It’s perfectly fine to handle crud although it didn’t have much rocker. I could easily do all types of turns with this ski. Personally I will not purchase this ski, too expensive for a ski with no metal, but I will be more than happy to rent it again lol
Skied these this winter in Australia. Both my wife and I really enjoyed these even if our ski levels are slightly different. They are very versatile so I agree with you they will be great for both intermediates and experts. Intermediate skiers probably don’t want to go too long in length.
I chose this ski in 20/21 with black and blue graphic top sheet for its playfulness and pop characteristics while being controlled in the moguls. As an expert skier I have to say it leans toward short aggressive turns. Don't fall asleep on this one. It likes to turn and makes tree skiing in chop a delight.
Looking to buy this one for my birthday. Tried my boyfriends 2019 vertis yesterday, was very excited about them. I'm an intermediate skier. I prefer the look of this one over the blue birdy one. You think this one could be okay for a woman. I read the birdy one has a 1m smaller turn radius, I don't feel that makes much of a difference. Are there more differences? Thanks for any advice!
Really the same ski, just different size choices and graphics. If you liked the feel of the Vertis, and you like the look better, and it's available in your size, I would get it!
Im into buying a new pair of Skis and im very interested in the Vertis. Last Year i tried the deacon 84 (177) and was pretty amazed by it, are they comparable tho? Id say im an expert skier at 6“4 and around 220 lbs who prefers the shorter turns mostly on piste. Im from Europe and need a Ski for all conditions, because i just want to own one pair. Im curious if the vertis 180 is a good Choice for me. What do you guys think? And which bindings fit best? Ty for the great Content - Greetings!
Vertis is more friendly and all-mountain oriented. It's a fantastic mid-range ski that can quite literally do it all. The Deacon is more of a front side weapon that carves fast and clean turns on very firm surfaces. If you're looking for one pair to do it all, I'd lean to Vertis.
After a few ski trips on rentals, I’m in the market for my first set of skis to help me progress. I’m 5’11, around 180lbs and intermediate skill level. I will mostly be skiing in the French Alps, predominantly on piste but would like the capability to deal with moguls, trees, bumps etc. I ski all day so am looking for skis that will deal well with changing conditions through the day. My research is pointing towards Black Crows Vertis and Nordica Enforcer 88s being good options. What would you recommend? Also, do you have any guidance on the most appropriate size for me? I was thinking around the 175cm mark. Thanks for your great reviews!
Hi Matt! Of those two, the Vertis makes more sense in my mind. Great option for all-terrain skiing and not too demanding. The Enforcer requires more attention for sure, if you're looking to progress, that may hinder that journey. I'd say low to mid-170's is right on the money.
Hi there, looking to buy my first set of skis ever, im 6'0 tall , and light around 135 lbs, mainly skiing on the east coast, Intermediate skill, do you think the Vertis is my best Black Crows option? and what size would you reccomend?
My daily driver’s are enforcer 100’s. They are really great skis. Advanced skier. 210 lbs. Looking for something with a slimmer waist. Would you recommend a ski like this or something more powerful? My wife is learning and I’m going down easier terrain than usual these days. Just curious, looks like a fun ski! Appreciate your reviews.
It is a very fun ski! The turning capabilities and built-in energy are off the charts. That said, you're not going to be able to rip big and fast turns like the Enforcer, so if you're okay with that, then Vertis is awesome. If you're looking for a mid-80's ski with a bit more power, then I'd take a look at Rossignol Experience 86 Ti, but skis that are a step up from Vertis like this are going to be a handful at slower speeds. Volkl Kanjo 84, Dynastar M-Pro 85, and Salomon Stance 84 are three of my favorite competitors to the Vertis in this range.
Would you say that there is a somewhat similar ski for this price point? I am in the market for a new pair of skis and I am kind of leaning towards these ones.
I'd check out the volkl Kanjo 84, Dynastar M-Pro 85, and Rossignol Experience 86 Basalt--any of these will provide fun, light, and agile all-mountain performance.
Hi! I am an intermediate skier and i I want to get skis for all conditions, i mostly ski groomers. I mostly ski in eastern Europe. I am 176cm. Shall I go for Black crows Vertis or Atomic bent 100?
I would say if you ski mostly groomed slopes, go with the Vertis. It's quicker edge to edge and more responsive on a groomer, while still being able to handle softer snow conditions and variable terrain too.
Vertis is far more directional and with a shorter turn radius and more of a symmetrical feel. The Vertis is a wonderful mid-range ski that suits the needs of a lot of different skiers. Mirus Cor is more specific and unique.
A lot of the on-snow footage you'll see is just shot with GoPros. I wouldn't necessarily call it fisheye, but certainly a wider angle than some. It's the most efficient for sure, and when we're testing and filming so many skis, sometimes (often) it just doesn't make sense to bring a long lens camera or fancier follow cam rig strictly from an efficiency perspective.
I just skied a Vertis 175 in Perisher, Australia for five days, and they were an absolute joy. Was teaching my five year old for three hours in the mornings on either fresh or cord, and then skiing myself in the afternoons on bombed out turning to slush. They coped with every condition and were incredibly playful, dynamic and held an edge without chatter at speed.
Through the season, I also enjoyed the Kanjo 84 and the Declivity 82, but they didn’t hold an edge on hardpack quite as well. I also tried the Kendo 88 again, but it was just too heavy for me (not all chairs have footrests in Aus).
For me, the Vertis was the ski of the season!
(I’m 5.10’ 155lbs)
Thanks for sharing, Miles!
We were very pleased to get pretty much all positive feedback on this ski for each of the past two years--was a very nice surprise, and glad to hear you've shared some of that experience!
SE
Today is the last day of our ski trip in Queenstown New Zealand; and we will fly back to Sydney tomorrow. I rent the vertis birdie (159cm) for three days (with the atomic hawx prime 100) . I had very pleasant experience. I did want to rent a kanjo or stance 84 (they are on the top of my shopping list) but they were not available.
The weather wasn’t ideal at Remarkable. It was hailing and snowing this afternoon with VERY poor visibility. However as I have already remembered the blue track and there weren’t many skiers, I was able to ski as fast as I could (and safely)….. so here is my 2cents:
The skis held up generally very well. It’s quite stable at a high speed, although I did wish it could have some metals… at low to mid speed, it had no problem at all. It’s perfectly fine to handle crud although it didn’t have much rocker. I could easily do all types of turns with this ski.
Personally I will not purchase this ski, too expensive for a ski with no metal, but I will be more than happy to rent it again lol
Skied these this winter in Australia. Both my wife and I really enjoyed these even if our ski levels are slightly different. They are very versatile so I agree with you they will be great for both intermediates and experts. Intermediate skiers probably don’t want to go too long in length.
It has been a tester favorite for the past two years for sure.
I chose this ski in 20/21 with black and blue graphic top sheet for its playfulness and pop characteristics while being controlled in the moguls. As an expert skier I have to say it leans toward short aggressive turns. Don't fall asleep on this one. It likes to turn and makes tree skiing in chop a delight.
Agreed, don't sleep on the Vertis!
Looking to buy this one for my birthday. Tried my boyfriends 2019 vertis yesterday, was very excited about them. I'm an intermediate skier. I prefer the look of this one over the blue birdy one. You think this one could be okay for a woman. I read the birdy one has a 1m smaller turn radius, I don't feel that makes much of a difference. Are there more differences? Thanks for any advice!
Really the same ski, just different size choices and graphics. If you liked the feel of the Vertis, and you like the look better, and it's available in your size, I would get it!
Im into buying a new pair of Skis and im very interested in the Vertis. Last Year i tried the deacon 84 (177) and was pretty amazed by it, are they comparable tho? Id say im an expert skier at 6“4 and around 220 lbs who prefers the shorter turns mostly on piste. Im from Europe and need a Ski for all conditions, because i just want to own one pair. Im curious if the vertis 180 is a good Choice for me. What do you guys think? And which bindings fit best?
Ty for the great Content - Greetings!
Vertis is more friendly and all-mountain oriented. It's a fantastic mid-range ski that can quite literally do it all. The Deacon is more of a front side weapon that carves fast and clean turns on very firm surfaces. If you're looking for one pair to do it all, I'd lean to Vertis.
After a few ski trips on rentals, I’m in the market for my first set of skis to help me progress. I’m 5’11, around 180lbs and intermediate skill level. I will mostly be skiing in the French Alps, predominantly on piste but would like the capability to deal with moguls, trees, bumps etc. I ski all day so am looking for skis that will deal well with changing conditions through the day. My research is pointing towards Black Crows Vertis and Nordica Enforcer 88s being good options. What would you recommend? Also, do you have any guidance on the most appropriate size for me? I was thinking around the 175cm mark. Thanks for your great reviews!
Hi Matt!
Of those two, the Vertis makes more sense in my mind. Great option for all-terrain skiing and not too demanding. The Enforcer requires more attention for sure, if you're looking to progress, that may hinder that journey. I'd say low to mid-170's is right on the money.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks so much for taking the time to respond - much appreciated!
Hi there, looking to buy my first set of skis ever, im 6'0 tall , and light around 135 lbs, mainly skiing on the east coast, Intermediate skill, do you think the Vertis is my best Black Crows option? and what size would you reccomend?
Yup! Amazing grip and responsiveness while being very easy to ski! I'd say the 175 is the way to go in that ski.
My daily driver’s are enforcer 100’s. They are really great skis. Advanced skier. 210 lbs. Looking for something with a slimmer waist. Would you recommend a ski like this or something more powerful? My wife is learning and I’m going down easier terrain than usual these days. Just curious, looks like a fun ski! Appreciate your reviews.
It is a very fun ski! The turning capabilities and built-in energy are off the charts. That said, you're not going to be able to rip big and fast turns like the Enforcer, so if you're okay with that, then Vertis is awesome. If you're looking for a mid-80's ski with a bit more power, then I'd take a look at Rossignol Experience 86 Ti, but skis that are a step up from Vertis like this are going to be a handful at slower speeds. Volkl Kanjo 84, Dynastar M-Pro 85, and Salomon Stance 84 are three of my favorite competitors to the Vertis in this range.
Would you say that there is a somewhat similar ski for this price point? I am in the market for a new pair of skis and I am kind of leaning towards these ones.
I'd check out the volkl Kanjo 84, Dynastar M-Pro 85, and Rossignol Experience 86 Basalt--any of these will provide fun, light, and agile all-mountain performance.
@@SkiEssentialsyou didn’t mention stance 84. Is there a reason?
Hi! I am an intermediate skier and i I want to get skis for all conditions, i mostly ski groomers. I mostly ski in eastern Europe. I am 176cm. Shall I go for Black crows Vertis or Atomic bent 100?
I would say if you ski mostly groomed slopes, go with the Vertis. It's quicker edge to edge and more responsive on a groomer, while still being able to handle softer snow conditions and variable terrain too.
Is 2023 version exactly same as 2022 construction and shape wise?
Yes,
The Vertis has the same build and shape with a different graphic. Great skis, totally underrated.
SE
This Vs the mirus cor??
Vertis is far more directional and with a shorter turn radius and more of a symmetrical feel. The Vertis is a wonderful mid-range ski that suits the needs of a lot of different skiers. Mirus Cor is more specific and unique.
By the way, the fishbowl lens for your reviews has to go. It does nothing but look cheap and gimmicky.
A lot of the on-snow footage you'll see is just shot with GoPros. I wouldn't necessarily call it fisheye, but certainly a wider angle than some. It's the most efficient for sure, and when we're testing and filming so many skis, sometimes (often) it just doesn't make sense to bring a long lens camera or fancier follow cam rig strictly from an efficiency perspective.