Finally found an explanation how to properly boost - that was just amazing! Now overshooting and loosing the dominant position will finally be less common. Thank you!
Boost bleeding is so important and I myself have yet to improve it even after all those years. I remember the way L'in was flying against my bomber. So far I have not encountered anyone better in that particular skill. Happy to take advice from this video :)
"No matter how evasive you are, if you can't pack a punch you won't be helping your team on any fight" - So true, that is precisely what I discovered yesterday during my first ever wingfight: managed to be the last ship standing in my team every time, but yet had no impact on the fight whatsoever as I was lost avoiding shots/deciding where/who to shoot 😶🌫I'm usually very accurate but there I was incapable of landing shots. The most difficult thing for a newcomer is that you don't shoot at someone who's passing/coming your way, you have to shoot at ships that are going away from you and that is totally different from a duel as you need to think in "3D" while a duel is basically 2D, on a plane.
I never knew about boosting while in full reverse. I honestly believe this is the skill I've been missing this entire time as I fly on console, and I have never gotten the hang of boosting in FAO since it sends me 4-6km away from the target. So, I end up jousting the entire time, and it's incredibly frustrating.
@@LIntouchableChannel I've still got a 4x PA prismatic FDL sitting around somewhere and I think I can still fly FA- off without completely embarrassing myself. Any Discord channels to get into for pvp stuff or is it still mostly GCI?
Great series. I would love lengthy advice on evasion in a future eposode. An example: I find hard to follow a target and aim my weapons simultaniously, but that can get better with training. However, I am clueless when there is a second enemy. I just get destroyed really fast when that happens because I don't know how to combine dodging with damage dealing, or how to dodge at all. (FAoff, trichording and stuff is not an issue. I just don't know how to position myself I guess)
Follow the reticle rather than the enemy ship, the reticle is where the target is going to be. Whereas, if you follow the ship you are always going to be where they were. If you use your lateral thrusters along with boost bleeding you can move the reticle, doing so means you can control where you have to aim. Ideally bring the reticle close to the target which means you wont have to move the face of the ship as much, aim with lateral thrusters rather than pitch and yaw.
Stick is really required for FA off, it's possible with mouse and keyboard but a bit irritating, plus the same setup is bothersome in FSD flight. Actually controlling the input with stick is a lot better and satisfying than tapping buttons.
I would focus more on trying to make pa shots and not getting hit. A good majority of those passes either you both hit each other or he hit you and you didn’t hit him. You have to try to dodge his shot while making yours.
Great video ! Thanks for sharing all that. Still I don't have a clue what do you mean by pip check ? I rewatched the videos but I don't get it . I have to say that my hairs hurt if you see what I mean 😂.
@@LIntouchableChannel Ho ok ! i guess i'll focus on that when i will be comfortable flying with FA off. Witch i'm working on thanks to your videos. My main problem right know is aiming with PA's, i'm missing a lot of my shots but can aim pretty much on targets with fixe MC for exemple. Witch was the complete opposite with FA on xD. Thanks for your answer.
Hi, you might not be active anymore but i had a question. What macro system do you use for your pip management? Im finding it toublesome to shift pips at the rate needed for most pvp engagement and was looking for advice
It has no effect during the boost: it's a little trick I use to slow myself down right after the boost. Your reverse thrusters do not fire during a boost - you're not doing anything wrong :)
@@LIntouchableChannel So you basically use your directional thrusters and boost to support the thrust while you can skip reverse thrust? When you pitch up - do you support that pitch with thrust upward or downward?
@@jms1hbv directional thrusters during boost, pitch + up or down depends on whether you want to make your turn smaller or larger (up = small / down = large)
So iam on xbox doing wing fight i keep coming back to this video to refresh my mind ...good video... So what i do is map a 25%reverse botton would that work or do i need to be 100% reverse
The video describes the best times to pip check a target; as the description states, it's for pilots with more experience - including knowledge on terminology
The reverse thrust is mainly important right before and after the boost (it doesn't impact the actual boost). The most important thing is to keep using your vertical thrusters the entire time during the boost. Use some pitch inputs as well.
@@LIntouchableChannel yeah, the pips binding is arrow keys... So what I'm asking is how you control the ship with mouse(right hand) manoeuvre with thrust (left hand on QERF) and manage pips (arrow keys) at the same time? Like what was shown on the first part of the video. I remember you said you're using KB&mouse
That isn't true. Evasion is certainly useful, but damage output is the main important skill in a wing fight. It's a very useful skill even if you can't really evade properly, because you won't always be focused in every single fight.
The weapons your are using and your mouse controls, there is no way i can fly FA off just by hitting the keybind, i need to configure my controls before ! As i just mention here, when flying FA on i can aim pretty good with PA's but not that good with fixe cannons and MC.Witch was the opposite with FA on.
this video too nerdy for me, aside from that really nice pip management all i see is regular flying. Like the whole boost bleeding thing. That needs a term? just fly regularly and you should be doing it.
Its very easy for newer combat pilots to simply not use any lateral thrusters to apply the extra turn. Tunnel vision + Lack of Flying leads to it. It is similar to pip management, you should always be doing it, but are you?
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Me: *presses L on the keyboard* "Oh nice we have lights!"
Finally found an explanation how to properly boost - that was just amazing! Now overshooting and loosing the dominant position will finally be less common. Thank you!
Boost bleeding is so important and I myself have yet to improve it even after all those years. I remember the way L'in was flying against my bomber. So far I have not encountered anyone better in that particular skill. Happy to take advice from this video :)
Dman man, your channel has solid info for all level of players, i just started playing this week and your channel has been a lot of help, tyvm.
"No matter how evasive you are, if you can't pack a punch you won't be helping your team on any fight" - So true, that is precisely what I discovered yesterday during my first ever wingfight: managed to be the last ship standing in my team every time, but yet had no impact on the fight whatsoever as I was lost avoiding shots/deciding where/who to shoot 😶🌫I'm usually very accurate but there I was incapable of landing shots. The most difficult thing for a newcomer is that you don't shoot at someone who's passing/coming your way, you have to shoot at ships that are going away from you and that is totally different from a duel as you need to think in "3D" while a duel is basically 2D, on a plane.
I am impressed that a lot of the old guards are still playing! Great to see ya making content nowadays
Love the information you are sharing with the community, thanks again for another great one
man...your Pip management is insane! I feel like my thumbs don't even move that fast on my stick lol
False you're just using premium NATO munitions, akuma math said so
We need to jump in discord sometime and I need a catch up on metas and such 😂
@@redskinlgnd yes!
The intro of your videos is worth watching alone. lol good one man
I never knew about boosting while in full reverse. I honestly believe this is the skill I've been missing this entire time as I fly on console, and I have never gotten the hang of boosting in FAO since it sends me 4-6km away from the target. So, I end up jousting the entire time, and it's incredibly frustrating.
I've been thinking about coming back to this game and getting into PvP again, about to go track down these other guides you've made
Give it a try, only if you like PAs though ;)
@@LIntouchableChannel I've still got a 4x PA prismatic FDL sitting around somewhere and I think I can still fly FA- off without completely embarrassing myself. Any Discord channels to get into for pvp stuff or is it still mostly GCI?
@@heinyhxc GCI and the PvP Hub
Instructions unclear, turrets won't fire! ;)
Great series. I would love lengthy advice on evasion in a future eposode. An example:
I find hard to follow a target and aim my weapons simultaniously, but that can get better with training. However, I am clueless when there is a second enemy. I just get destroyed really fast when that happens because I don't know how to combine dodging with damage dealing, or how to dodge at all.
(FAoff, trichording and stuff is not an issue. I just don't know how to position myself I guess)
Will look into doing a guide on evasion in the future
@@LIntouchableChannel That'll be 2022 then - C O M B A T
Follow the reticle rather than the enemy ship, the reticle is where the target is going to be. Whereas, if you follow the ship you are always going to be where they were. If you use your lateral thrusters along with boost bleeding you can move the reticle, doing so means you can control where you have to aim. Ideally bring the reticle close to the target which means you wont have to move the face of the ship as much, aim with lateral thrusters rather than pitch and yaw.
Instructions unclear, flying a t10 in ring fights
Stick is really required for FA off, it's possible with mouse and keyboard but a bit irritating, plus the same setup is bothersome in FSD flight. Actually controlling the input with stick is a lot better and satisfying than tapping buttons.
I would focus more on trying to make pa shots and not getting hit. A good majority of those passes either you both hit each other or he hit you and you didn’t hit him. You have to try to dodge his shot while making yours.
Awesome, awesome video. Will practice! o7
Great video ! Thanks for sharing all that. Still I don't have a clue what do you mean by pip check ? I rewatched the videos but I don't get it . I have to say that my hairs hurt if you see what I mean 😂.
pip check = being hit while pips are out of systems (4 pips to systems gives 2.38X better shields than 0 pips)
@@LIntouchableChannel Ho ok ! i guess i'll focus on that when i will be comfortable flying with FA off. Witch i'm working on thanks to your videos. My main problem right know is aiming with PA's, i'm missing a lot of my shots but can aim pretty much on targets with fixe MC for exemple. Witch was the complete opposite with FA on xD. Thanks for your answer.
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Pip checked on all clips
Hi, you might not be active anymore but i had a question. What macro system do you use for your pip management? Im finding it toublesome to shift pips at the rate needed for most pvp engagement and was looking for advice
I used Autohotkey. Bound mouse buttons to a macro for the arrow keys (default for pip mgnmt in ED)
Can someone expand pip for me? I want to know the full name...
When I hold reverse and boost, my FDL has the same velocity. What am I doing wrong?
It has no effect during the boost: it's a little trick I use to slow myself down right after the boost. Your reverse thrusters do not fire during a boost - you're not doing anything wrong :)
@@LIntouchableChannel So you basically use your directional thrusters and boost to support the thrust while you can skip reverse thrust? When you pitch up - do you support that pitch with thrust upward or downward?
@@jms1hbv directional thrusters during boost, pitch + up or down depends on whether you want to make your turn smaller or larger (up = small / down = large)
So iam on xbox doing wing fight i keep coming back to this video to refresh my mind ...good video...
So what i do is map a 25%reverse botton would that work or do i need to be 100% reverse
100% tbh
Wait, is it just me or did he not explain pip checking? Like, at all
The video describes the best times to pip check a target; as the description states, it's for pilots with more experience - including knowledge on terminology
Shhh. It’s a secret! ;)
What controller/platform are you using? I’m PS4 and the little analogue controllers are super tricky for FA off
mouse and keyboard
Wow I don't think I'll ever master this
Not with that attitude!
@@LIntouchableChannel your right but I need help give me some in game lessons
@@bigmangus7 discord.gg/MYZyqqe
Do these tactics require like FA off always?
Basically, yes.
I'm not sure i'm doing this boost bleed thing right. You hold reverse throughout even while inputting other directions?
The reverse thrust is mainly important right before and after the boost (it doesn't impact the actual boost). The most important thing is to keep using your vertical thrusters the entire time during the boost. Use some pitch inputs as well.
Are you using a tool for pip management? Doesn't look like 100% human input.
No tool for my flying
How were you changing pips and engaging lateral and vertical thrusters at the same time you're maneuvering your ship?
Pips should be on a binding that you can control at the same time as everything else
@@LIntouchableChannel yeah, the pips binding is arrow keys... So what I'm asking is how you control the ship with mouse(right hand) manoeuvre with thrust (left hand on QERF) and manage pips (arrow keys) at the same time? Like what was shown on the first part of the video.
I remember you said you're using KB&mouse
@@jeanramsis1771 he seems to enjoy leaving out information. Including wtf a pip check is.
@@HorribleMuttonChops pip check: when the person you're shooting at doesnt have 4 pips in system when you land a volley.
bro where is the guide on evastion
use thermal conduit and premium ammunition, duh.
Definitely need an evasion guide, damage means nothing if you arent around to deal it.
That isn't true. Evasion is certainly useful, but damage output is the main important skill in a wing fight. It's a very useful skill even if you can't really evade properly, because you won't always be focused in every single fight.
How do I kill stuff if I can't aim?
aim harder
The weapons your are using and your mouse controls, there is no way i can fly FA off just by hitting the keybind, i need to configure my controls before ! As i just mention here, when flying FA on i can aim pretty good with PA's but not that good with fixe cannons and MC.Witch was the opposite with FA on.
Fak. Randoms are gonna get so good with these videos around.
More food
This video needs more FA on.
Lego aimbot
Thanks
You make great guides. Tell me where can i find a text description of this mechanic? Just dont uderstand english well
WOMBAT
What HOTAS do you use?
a mouse and keyboard
@@LIntouchableChannel Wow, for real? Do you use any custom bindings?
@@davidhogins431 just relative mouse turned on on the Y axis tbh
@@LIntouchableChannel how do you get that cool red hud?
Why is the Krait a one trick pony?
What HUDsetting is this?
Stock
@@LIntouchableChannel really? It's so red
@@oneandonlycara ah no, that first footage is from a friend of mine. He does have a custom HUD but I don't have the values
Solid work CMDR! o7o7o7
this video too nerdy for me, aside from that really nice pip management all i see is regular flying. Like the whole boost bleeding thing. That needs a term? just fly regularly and you should be doing it.
Its very easy for newer combat pilots to simply not use any lateral thrusters to apply the extra turn. Tunnel vision + Lack of Flying leads to it. It is similar to pip management, you should always be doing it, but are you?
Yes. This separates the best players from the rest of them.
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