That’s true, I agree with you, Micah. I was 25 or 26 when I went in, and within three years I was in, I was so fully indoctrinated that (also an Artist), I drew myself being split in half. I was intelligent and though I loved the people, I was exhausted and asked questions and disagreed with certain doctrines because I saw suicide, deaths due to the no blood doctrine, no feelings of grief, no growth, child abuse, isolation and how hard the life is on little children...on and on. So they punished me for being me. And yes they want you to fail and die outside and the shunning helps the disfellowshipped person WANT to either crawl back or give up and die. The best revenge is TO LIVE WELL! Live long and well, my friend.
I can tell Micah is highly intelligent and has worked hard to overcome so much. What an inspiration. One thing that was brought to my attention yesterday is that we as JWs were never allowed to be angry or show anger. They always wanted you to suppress those very real and often justified feelings. We were always told we aren’t trusting in God or his organization if you feel or display anger. The reality is, that’s just not healthy to not be able to have those emotions.
I felt we were taught to disassociate from basically all emotions! You weren't allowed to be really happy because that would be the accomplishment of some personal desire on your part so that's not allowed. Desire is selfish, so happy is a no. You can't be sad about anything because "we're God's happy people!". So, any legit reasons for despair was a no no. Like Micah said, not even allowed to grieve a loved one who has passed. And no, you can't be angry either. You just had to completely stifle anything that made you human. It's no wonder the majority of JWs are depressed.
Yea, it is lying and blaming it on God, when it is their sin! The Bible calls this teaching oppression and oppressing those God instead , commands us to love! It is satanic, greedy, wicked, and hypocrisy!! It is of satan!
Your saving grace is your Writing. You have a wonderful, terrible story to tell and I’m so glad you have spoken out. We former JWs all have the need to express the pain we’ve suffered in WT. I’m on your side. Your life is just Beginning for good...(I’m 74 and I’m just discovering my life as joyful!) I also lost all and loved ones when I was shunned. By my age now, wow, I can say I know life. I’ve experienced it all! I DID nearly self-destruct until I found nice people “in the world”...real life! Good for you, my friend. Keep writing and talking to us, there are so many formers who need to hear! Much love ❤
@malcontent1982 Micah. I was in the organization for over 50 years. Everything you said is very relatable & so very true. Please know that your story will help someone & save their life. Please continue to speak out & tell your story to everyone that you can. Watchtower will pay for what they did to us. The walls of the tower are crashing in every day.
Perhaps someday, I'll be the one telling my story here. My dad died Aug 14th, 1995, from liver cancer, one week after his 41st birthday. Witnesses also abandoned me and my jw family for the first time shortly after my place burned down. I had lost everything in the fire without insurance. A few months after my second hip replacement, I was disabled and forced to live in my poorly running-cheap car. If you haven't been abandoned before by people who claim to love you, let's say it's highly unhealthy for your mental state. It's taken over ten years to heal. In the end, my lessons were learned via scientific facts. My PTSD took a lot of professional assistance to move past it, and it still resurfaces occasionally. It's difficult waking up at 2 am every morning for 10+ years in absolute terror that I'm about to die again. 😢 I know many people wouldn't and haven't survived because it's too much to handle. The scripture that god doesn't allow us more than we can handle is a lie. If it were true, suicide would not be a thing. I had to move past my absolute fierce anger towards my family. Now I feel pity for them. They're also lifelong victims of the watchtower's brainwashing. I've forgiven them and shown them the flaws of conditional love. Each time I speak to my mom and oldest brother (who are the only ones that will talk to me.) I wake them up a little. It's working. Now one of my primary goals is to end Involuntary Homelessness. I'm an inventor and believe my technologies can also stabilize the climate. Come to me, my Ex-JW brethren We now carry the beacon of light representing the Real Truth. When we all Unite under one banner, the world as we know it can be transformed into a real-life Paradise. Are you interested in joining forces? Contact and join me through any organizations I currently run or social media. AAHH-Atheist Alliance Helping the Homeless, Seattle-Tacoma. Seattle Area Ex-JW Meetup Support group. Or my for-profit, Endless Energy LLC. I look forward to seeing all of you in one of my groups and at the BeFree23 Protest on Oct 31st in Washington, DC. I'm seeking the opportunity to speak there. Friend requests are welcome. Please include Ex-JW Class in the subject line. ~Hunter Freedman
My father was a faithful JW for decades. When he was ill the congregation came to visit him a handful of times. Then, in 2021, when he died, his congregation complained of the time his funeral was because it clashed with their meeting. That was a wake-up call for me and left this cult. Hang in there, man! We get another chance at life now. I'm excited to celebrate my first Christmas this year 🤗
Micah said, "Watchtower wants you to die." That is why I call them a modern day human sacrificing cult. They have many methods of making human sacrifices, whether its by being so cruel that people take their own lives, or refuse a blood transfusion & die, "taking a spiritual stand against a government or rebel fighters", going to prison rather than fighting in a war, sacrificing having children or getting married, going without enough money to support yourself, having no Social Security in old age, giving your entire life & future to the org, or spiritually slitting your throat in a judicial meeting & killing you off spiritually. Im sure I missed a few ways in that list.
Each death provides an opportunistic chance for them to prey on vulnerable, grieving people at the "funerals," which usually barely speak about the deceased #JW. It also reinforces their "us-vs-them" mentality, and their belief that they will suffer if they abandon "Jehovah." Each dead JW frightens them, and when you're afraid your thinking is emotional and survival oriented. Watchtower has much to atone for. They raised us to be fearless, to be a martyr, to speak our minds no matter what and they tortured us. They taught me to be articulate, and taught me how to speak publicly. They have created many people that can assist in their undoing. Inundate #JWs with hashtags, retweets, reposts. Consistent effort toward a goal will yield results. I never had a life and I don't have much of one now. But Watchtower doesn't know how to handle those that they discard and don't die. They just say, "Don't listen, don't look, don't read, don't watch." We are legion. Give them hell.
@@malcontent1982 Watchtower will teach you to speak publicly and to be articulate...but they put their words in your mouth. The do not want you to be articulate or public with your own words, thoughts or feelings.
@@mattmurdock2868 They're a cult that indoctrinates people with propaganda. It doesn't change the fact that they raised us to fearlessly go up to houses as children and try to convert them, or to use words to affect people. The JW crap can be discarded and positive attributes can be retained and more importantly used against Watchtower. Their intention doesn't matter, the only control they have over you is what you allow them.
Thank you Vervian for the opportunity to hear Micah's life story . The sad part of his story is that in becoming a witness , one looses that part of his or hers heart felt conscience , their empathy towards the pain or overwhelming problems of those who don't have the resources or the family support to care for them in their hour of need . The societies High Control Policies allow little room for acting out of any kind of pain or anger . The scriptures are full of examples of those who acted out because of love , hate , fear , desperation , lust , revenge , or the need to survive . Most were handled without a committee of self appointed men who were order to perform their duty by a book written by men who make the claim that they're directed by God , that takes away the understanding and empathy behind those problems , and makes judgement decisions based on a statement written in the paragraph , like finding the answers to the questions written in the watchtower study articles . The witnesses are told that loosing everything when shunned is a loving deed . But is the forcing of a person to do a cults bidding or to follow their high control policies by taking away their family or loved ones companionship really doing Gods will ?, some would call that a hardened socialistic to a restrictive form of communistic control .The Governing Body will tell you what to think and say . My hope is that Micah will find peace and a path that leads to contentment with the Lords help .
Thank you Micah for sharing your very sad story- you have obviously suffered much within the JW Organisation and after - with other organisations. You are to be commended for telling so much of your story. I’m now 78 and I’ve been left the JW’s for 25 years and only in past 2 years feel healing through ex JW’s and many other best people. Blessings to you Micah on keeping walking forward.
This was one of the most riveting and compelling interviews that I've heard on an "apostate" channel. Anyone who has seen the blank stare in the eyes of an indoctrinated JW knows there is zero empathy behind them. Destitute, addicted and living on the streets. They don't care. "Worldly" people will reach out with compassion and guide you to your feet. Celebrate your resilience, courage and recovery, Micah. New subscriber.
There’s no real sympathy. They ask you how you are doing and you give them an honest answer if you aren’t well and it’s always “that’s too bad” and their version of “help” is always “spiritual” help aka non existent prayer anyone they see as “needy” it’s always up to Jehovah never what they as a congregation can do to help
Cults demand that members be walking talking advertisements for the group. Anything that would challenge the groups group think must be dismissed and criminalized.
KH service should include how to be warm and genuine care to each other . Too many artificial smiles and shallow feelings towards each other is too rampant in a lot of congregations. Shunning shows absence of caring and absence of empathy towards your loved ones. Consequently destroying a family unit. Shunning makes someone to be callous and selfish, and artificial love abound. Down with belief that practice Shunning.
KH service should include how to be warm and genuine care to each other . Too many artificial smiles and shallow feelings towards each other is too rampant in a lot of congregations. Shunning shows absence of caring and absence of empathy towards your loved ones. Consequently destroying a family unit. Shunning makes someone to be callous and selfish, and artificial love abound. Down with belief that practice Shunning.
"Nobody ever joins the JW org if they're happy". Great insight. So true. There's so much depth to that comment. Does Jehovah feel sad when someone is happy, because they're less likely to join his ONLY vehicle for them being saved? But...isn't simple joy and happiness - INNOCENT happiness I'm talking about here - not something that would please Jehovah? He wants his children to be happy, yet...makes it so that we must be desperate to join his one and only vehicle to paradise? Make it make sense, folks!
My husband has two diseases.Because hes inactive none have called and offered any help.The kind and compassionate people who have helped are inactive,disfellowshipped, and people not in this religion or any religion.
Thank you for your heartfelt story, Micah. You are a beautiful soul. I understand your feelings about god, but there is a Supreme God above the Demiurge (aka Jehovah). Jehovah is an imposter deity. Yes, there's a loving Entity above him. The JW organization takes on the persona and character of jehovah, the Old Testament false god, and they do his bidding. Stay strong.
I related to a lot of his experience and expressions. I woke up over a year ago but I get really down sometimes even though I'm glad im awake, but what he said about staying alive out of spite is something i do think about haha😆 Sometimes I wanna give up but then i think No, that's what Watchtower wants me to do and I'm not gonna let em win. I wanna help somehow in taking those mfs down
@@malcontent1982 Haha, yes. Thanks for your interview, sorry for what you went through. My mom's a JW but also a narcissist so I experienced much mental and emotional anguish most my life, so I can relate to the coldness and conditional love your own mother displays towards you. I woke up to my mother's narcissistic ways and the orgs similar tactics at the same time
Vevian, would you plz invite Laura again for an update about what is going on in her life. And maybe she can tell us some other memories about her time in the cult.
@@vevianvoz Because she was so funny. I loved that interview. This time you could also invite her daughter. It would be interesting to hear that story from her perspective.
Amazing , gentle soul , I respect your believe , but the creator of the universe is inyou , with you , for you , he will heal your memories and you will meet him again , under a tree in the nature , not in the KH and you will reconnect with the real IHWH in a deep breath,,, he is not a religion , he is the owner of the universes , and the only Chanel is Jesus , and Jesus understand you and love you .
These are the JW's that I know of who took their lives. Damon, Pam, Andrea, Robert, Donald, Tandy & Reagan. Undoubtably there are more. I just dont know it has happened.
Listening, the human negative impact effects were too much for you. You needed to be individually strong, and independent. Being part of a cult is counter to that idea. Naturally we need to have respect for ourselves. Then health, happiness, and hope puts one on a good pathway in life’s journey. You have to be cognitive of your own life in relation to the real world, not a fantasy one.
AA have helped millions of people to recover from their addictions. I went there but yes thought it was a bit culty but that NA was more direct. If the AA didn’t work for you then that’s fine, you knew it wasn’t doing you any good. But in no way does mean that the AA hasn’t helped so many people over the years.
That's ridiculous and ignorant in any recovery program the success rates are low. Not because the programmes do not work the Alcoholic or Drug addict doesn't really want to quit many sadly who attend my home group just don't want to face the consequences of there actions. The AA program works for thousands and as a daily drinker I have just celebrated ten years of continuous sobriety. ODAAT. Sadly this guy seems like he has serious mental issues I hope he gets the help he obviously needs.
So Micah admits to being a piece of chit and then twenty years later cries around that nobody had anything to do with him much. Even now his BC glasses say stay away. I hope he can finally pull his head out of his arse and will experience a better life.
My apologies. I should not have said something this young man needs to hear. Perhaps people like you lending an ear for his professional victim sniveling mouth will help him better.@@CappytanMusic
@@Strutingeagle I suggest you take some time today to reflect on these words: “If you don’t have anything nice to say, shut your goddamn mouth, Boomer.”
Very powerful what a survivor thriver love this guys channel mentally diseased is truly lighting the path out of the dark place. I’m an artist and councillor and want to help people find peace in the meditation of art. Being in org 30 kids growing up and I decided to get educated. OOPs haha living my best life free in 23 My kids are still in but I have planted seeds and get to water now and then with love.🫶🏼✌🏼💫🔮
Oh that's really nice. The youtube channel Mentally Diseased is not me though, that's another exjw. I really believe art to be a healing thing. I wish you all the best with your children!
That’s true, I agree with you, Micah. I was 25 or 26 when I went in, and within three years I was in, I was so fully indoctrinated that (also an Artist), I drew myself being split in half. I was intelligent and though I loved the people, I was exhausted and asked questions and disagreed with certain doctrines because I saw suicide, deaths due to the no blood doctrine, no feelings of grief, no growth, child abuse, isolation and how hard the life is on little children...on and on. So they punished me for being me. And yes they want you to fail and die outside and the shunning helps the disfellowshipped person WANT to either crawl back or give up and die. The best revenge is TO LIVE WELL! Live long and well, my friend.
You as well!
I can tell Micah is highly intelligent and has worked hard to overcome so much. What an inspiration. One thing that was brought to my attention yesterday is that we as JWs were never allowed to be angry or show anger. They always wanted you to suppress those very real and often justified feelings. We were always told we aren’t trusting in God or his organization if you feel or display anger. The reality is, that’s just not healthy to not be able to have those emotions.
I felt we were taught to disassociate from basically all emotions! You weren't allowed to be really happy because that would be the accomplishment of some personal desire on your part so that's not allowed. Desire is selfish, so happy is a no. You can't be sad about anything because "we're God's happy people!". So, any legit reasons for despair was a no no. Like Micah said, not even allowed to grieve a loved one who has passed. And no, you can't be angry either. You just had to completely stifle anything that made you human. It's no wonder the majority of JWs are depressed.
Yea, it is lying and blaming it on God, when it is their sin!
The Bible calls this teaching oppression and oppressing those God instead , commands us to love! It is satanic, greedy, wicked, and hypocrisy!!
It is of satan!
And it is APOSTACY!!!
Thank you, that's very kind.
Your saving grace is your Writing. You have a wonderful, terrible story to tell and I’m so glad you have spoken out. We former JWs all have the need to express the pain we’ve suffered in WT. I’m on your side. Your life is just Beginning for good...(I’m 74 and I’m just discovering my life as joyful!) I also lost all and loved ones when I was shunned. By my age now, wow, I can say I know life. I’ve experienced it all! I DID nearly self-destruct until I found nice people “in the world”...real life! Good for you, my friend. Keep writing and talking to us, there are so many formers who need to hear! Much love ❤
Thank you!
I truly wish Micah further success. What an amazing person. His story was one of the best stories of triumph I ever heard. Very powerful 👏.
Aww. Thank you!
@malcontent1982 Micah. I was in the organization for over 50 years. Everything you said is very relatable & so very true. Please know that your story will help someone & save their life. Please continue to speak out & tell your story to everyone that you can. Watchtower will pay for what they did to us. The walls of the tower are crashing in every day.
@@tammyg8031 That's very kind. Thank you. I do want to draw attention to their evil, cruel, policies.
Thank you for telling us your story, Micah. I am so sorry how you were treated when you were young by the JW. I wish you all the success.
Perhaps someday, I'll be the one telling my story here.
My dad died Aug 14th, 1995, from liver cancer, one week after his 41st birthday.
Witnesses also abandoned me and my jw family for the first time shortly after my place burned down. I had lost everything in the fire without insurance.
A few months after my second hip replacement, I was disabled and forced to live in my poorly running-cheap car.
If you haven't been abandoned before by people who claim to love you, let's say it's highly unhealthy for your mental state.
It's taken over ten years to heal.
In the end, my lessons were learned via scientific facts. My PTSD took a lot of professional assistance to move past it, and it still resurfaces occasionally.
It's difficult waking up at 2 am every morning for 10+ years in absolute terror that I'm about to die again. 😢 I know many people wouldn't and haven't survived because it's too much to handle.
The scripture that god doesn't allow us more than we can handle is a lie. If it were true, suicide would not be a thing.
I had to move past my absolute fierce anger towards my family.
Now I feel pity for them. They're also lifelong victims of the watchtower's brainwashing.
I've forgiven them and shown them the flaws of conditional love.
Each time I speak to my mom and oldest brother (who are the only ones that will talk to me.) I wake them up a little. It's working.
Now one of my primary goals is to end Involuntary Homelessness.
I'm an inventor and believe my technologies can also stabilize the climate.
Come to me, my Ex-JW brethren
We now carry the beacon of light representing the Real Truth.
When we all Unite under one banner, the world as we know it can be transformed into a real-life Paradise.
Are you interested in joining forces? Contact and join me through any organizations I currently run or social media.
AAHH-Atheist Alliance Helping the Homeless, Seattle-Tacoma.
Seattle Area Ex-JW Meetup Support group.
Or my for-profit, Endless Energy LLC.
I look forward to seeing all of you in one of my groups and at the BeFree23 Protest on Oct 31st in Washington, DC. I'm seeking the opportunity to speak there.
Friend requests are welcome. Please include Ex-JW Class in the subject line.
~Hunter Freedman
Very good interview
So thankful your out of that mess
I was raised in a crazy religion too!
Freedom 🎉
I'm glad you're out!
Wow, Micah, I'm so happy for your progress. Thank you for sharing your story, it really touched me.
You're welcome. Thank you!
My father was a faithful JW for decades. When he was ill the congregation came to visit him a handful of times. Then, in 2021, when he died, his congregation complained of the time his funeral was because it clashed with their meeting. That was a wake-up call for me and left this cult.
Hang in there, man! We get another chance at life now. I'm excited to celebrate my first Christmas this year 🤗
Micah said, "Watchtower wants you to die." That is why I call them a modern day human sacrificing cult. They have many methods of making human sacrifices, whether its by being so cruel that people take their own lives, or refuse a blood transfusion & die, "taking a spiritual stand against a government or rebel fighters", going to prison rather than fighting in a war, sacrificing having children or getting married, going without enough money to support yourself, having no Social Security in old age, giving your entire life & future to the org, or spiritually slitting your throat in a judicial meeting & killing you off spiritually. Im sure I missed a few ways in that list.
Each death provides an opportunistic chance for them to prey on vulnerable, grieving people at the "funerals," which usually barely speak about the deceased #JW. It also reinforces their "us-vs-them" mentality, and their belief that they will suffer if they abandon "Jehovah." Each dead JW frightens them, and when you're afraid your thinking is emotional and survival oriented.
Watchtower has much to atone for. They raised us to be fearless, to be a martyr, to speak our minds no matter what and they tortured us. They taught me to be articulate, and taught me how to speak publicly. They have created many people that can assist in their undoing. Inundate #JWs with hashtags, retweets, reposts. Consistent effort toward a goal will yield results.
I never had a life and I don't have much of one now. But Watchtower doesn't know how to handle those that they discard and don't die. They just say, "Don't listen, don't look, don't read, don't watch." We are legion. Give them hell.
@@malcontent1982
Watchtower will teach you to speak publicly and to be articulate...but they put their words in your mouth.
The do not want you to be articulate or public with your own words, thoughts or feelings.
@@mattmurdock2868 They're a cult that indoctrinates people with propaganda. It doesn't change the fact that they raised us to fearlessly go up to houses as children and try to convert them, or to use words to affect people. The JW crap can be discarded and positive attributes can be retained and more importantly used against Watchtower.
Their intention doesn't matter, the only control they have over you is what you allow them.
Thank you Vervian for the opportunity to hear Micah's life story . The sad part of his story is that in becoming a witness , one looses that part of his or hers heart felt conscience , their empathy towards the pain or overwhelming problems of those who don't have the resources or the family support to care for them in their hour of need . The societies High Control Policies allow little room for acting out of any kind of pain or anger . The scriptures are full of examples of those who acted out because of love , hate , fear , desperation , lust , revenge , or the need to survive . Most were handled without a committee of self appointed men who were order to perform their duty by a book written by men who make the claim that they're directed by God , that takes away the understanding and empathy behind those problems , and makes judgement decisions based on a statement written in the paragraph , like finding the answers to the questions written in the watchtower study articles . The witnesses are told that loosing everything when shunned is a loving deed . But is the forcing of a person to do a cults bidding or to follow their high control policies by taking away their family or loved ones companionship really doing Gods will ?, some would call that a hardened socialistic to a restrictive form of communistic control .The Governing Body will tell you what to think and say . My hope is that Micah will find peace and a path that leads to contentment with the Lords help .
Thank you Micah for sharing your very sad story- you have obviously suffered much within the JW Organisation and after - with other organisations. You are to be commended for telling so much of your story. I’m now 78 and I’ve been left the JW’s for 25 years and only in past 2 years feel healing through ex JW’s and many other best people. Blessings to you Micah on keeping walking forward.
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WHERE I AM FROM IT'S THE SAME BURDENSOME EMOTIONAL DRAINING EXPERIENCE FOR US ALL😢😢😢
Wow! Is all I can say… I’m so glad you survived the trauma you’ve gone through… stay strong…. That cult is the worse and is going down…❤❤
This was one of the most riveting and compelling interviews that I've heard on an "apostate" channel. Anyone who has seen the blank stare in the eyes of an indoctrinated JW knows there is zero empathy behind them. Destitute, addicted and living on the streets. They don't care. "Worldly" people will reach out with compassion and guide you to your feet. Celebrate your resilience, courage and recovery, Micah. New subscriber.
Beautiful Story, loved it so much. Thank you
You're welome! Thank you for your kind words.
The JW's abandoned their own brains
True
Your heart is treacherous and your cannot trust your mind, only the GB.
Fantastic Quote.
There’s no real sympathy. They ask you how you are doing and you give them an honest answer if you aren’t well and it’s always “that’s too bad” and their version of “help” is always “spiritual” help aka non existent prayer anyone they see as “needy” it’s always up to Jehovah never what they as a congregation can do to help
Cults demand that members be walking talking advertisements for the group. Anything that would challenge the groups group think must be dismissed and criminalized.
KH service should include how to be warm and genuine care to each other . Too many artificial smiles and shallow feelings towards each other is too rampant in a lot of congregations. Shunning shows absence of caring and absence of empathy towards your loved ones. Consequently destroying a family unit. Shunning makes someone to be callous and selfish, and artificial love abound. Down with belief that practice Shunning.
KH service should include how to be warm and genuine care to each other . Too many artificial smiles and shallow feelings towards each other is too rampant in a lot of congregations. Shunning shows absence of caring and absence of empathy towards your loved ones. Consequently destroying a family unit. Shunning makes someone to be callous and selfish, and artificial love abound. Down with belief that practice Shunning.
"Nobody ever joins the JW org if they're happy". Great insight. So true. There's so much depth to that comment. Does Jehovah feel sad when someone is happy, because they're less likely to join his ONLY vehicle for them being saved? But...isn't simple joy and happiness - INNOCENT happiness I'm talking about here - not something that would please Jehovah? He wants his children to be happy, yet...makes it so that we must be desperate to join his one and only vehicle to paradise? Make it make sense, folks!
My husband has two diseases.Because hes inactive none have called and offered any help.The kind and compassionate people who have helped are inactive,disfellowshipped, and people not in this religion or any religion.
Thank you for your heartfelt story, Micah. You are a beautiful soul. I understand your feelings about god, but there is a Supreme God above the Demiurge (aka Jehovah). Jehovah is an imposter deity. Yes, there's a loving Entity above him. The JW organization takes on the persona and character of jehovah, the Old Testament false god, and they do his bidding. Stay strong.
You're welcome. Thanks. I don't believe in God or have any interest. I'm gonna direct my life for now. You stay strong as well!
I related to a lot of his experience and expressions. I woke up over a year ago but I get really down sometimes even though I'm glad im awake, but what he said about staying alive out of spite is something i do think about haha😆 Sometimes I wanna give up but then i think No, that's what Watchtower wants me to do and I'm not gonna let em win. I wanna help somehow in taking those mfs down
Be spiteful.
@@malcontent1982 Haha, yes. Thanks for your interview, sorry for what you went through. My mom's a JW but also a narcissist so I experienced much mental and emotional anguish most my life, so I can relate to the coldness and conditional love your own mother displays towards you. I woke up to my mother's narcissistic ways and the orgs similar tactics at the same time
Vevian, would you plz invite Laura again for an update about what is going on in her life. And maybe she can tell us some other memories about her time in the cult.
Why laura out of all the people I’ve interviewed? You can reach out to her if you can to connect.
@@vevianvoz Because she was so funny. I loved that interview. This time you could also invite her daughter. It would be interesting to hear that story from her perspective.
JWs are robots… I remember feeling that way going to the meetings… wash rinse repeat every day… Grrr!!!
Perpetual deja vu.
Amazing , gentle soul , I respect your believe , but the creator of the universe is inyou , with you , for you , he will heal your memories and you will meet him again , under a tree in the nature , not in the KH and you will reconnect with the real IHWH in a deep breath,,, he is not a religion , he is the owner of the universes , and the only Chanel is Jesus , and Jesus understand you and love you .
These are the JW's that I know of who took their lives. Damon, Pam, Andrea, Robert, Donald, Tandy & Reagan. Undoubtably there are more. I just dont know it has happened.
Kim, Carl, and I forget the third. We were friends as children. My father martyred himself for them. Fucking bastards! His name was #RexAllenLosh.
Parents can be viscous
Listening, the human negative impact effects were too much for you. You needed to be individually strong, and independent. Being part of a cult is counter to that idea. Naturally we need to have respect for ourselves. Then health, happiness, and hope puts one on a good pathway in life’s journey. You have to be cognitive of your own life in relation to the real world, not a fantasy one.
AA have helped millions of people to recover from their addictions.
I went there but yes thought it was a bit culty but that NA was more direct.
If the AA didn’t work for you then that’s fine, you knew it wasn’t doing you any good. But in no way does mean that the AA hasn’t helped so many people over the years.
It's helped 8 percent of people that attend. So any millions it has helped it has failed millions more.
If no way did I say it failed everybody did I?
That's ridiculous and ignorant in any recovery program the success rates are low.
Not because the programmes do not work the Alcoholic or Drug addict doesn't really want to quit many sadly who attend my home group just don't want to face the consequences of there actions.
The AA program works for thousands and as a daily drinker I have just celebrated ten years of continuous sobriety.
ODAAT.
Sadly this guy seems like he has serious mental issues I hope he gets the help he obviously needs.
It’s super inconsistent. None of these elders know what they are doing.
AA is a cult.
Just like JW’s they put you down. You’re less than. It’s so obvious. Dry drunk my ass. F AA!
I think your name means " who is like Yah"
It doesn’t matter if you dont believe in God
YOU WILL,
And we will see who the liar is
GUARENTEED
Pride goes before a fall. Who are you to judge or strike me down?
So Micah admits to being a piece of chit and then twenty years later cries around that nobody had anything to do with him much. Even now his BC glasses say stay away. I hope he can finally pull his head out of his arse and will experience a better life.
You don’t have to be this person, Struttingeagle. Find peace.
My apologies. I should not have said something this young man needs to hear. Perhaps people like you lending an ear for his professional victim sniveling mouth will help him better.@@CappytanMusic
@@Strutingeagle You sound like you would make a good Governing Body member. You should fill out an application
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@@Strutingeagle I suggest you take some time today to reflect on these words: “If you don’t have anything nice to say, shut your goddamn mouth, Boomer.”
Very powerful what a survivor thriver love this guys channel mentally diseased is truly lighting the path out of the dark place. I’m an artist and councillor and want to help people find peace in the meditation of art. Being in org 30 kids growing up and I decided to get educated. OOPs haha living my best life free in 23 My kids are still in but I have planted seeds and get to water now and then with love.🫶🏼✌🏼💫🔮
I wish you success. I truly hope that your children wake up.
Oh that's really nice. The youtube channel Mentally Diseased is not me though, that's another exjw. I really believe art to be a healing thing. I wish you all the best with your children!
They are ignorant people that don't see what's going around them... they have a one track mind.