Economics Explained so the average return of the top-100 hedge funds was the same as the average market return. I’m curious to know: what is the average return of the top 20% of hedge funds by AUM? I think that would be a better representation of the industry, as the spread across 100 firms could be very wide and the signal could get diluted.
@@EconomicsExplained How was the 5 original tenders pack from KFC? How can one determine the intrinsic value of the 5 original tenders pack? Pls make a video on this. Kthxbye
I dont wanna be a hedge fund in just wanted to make extra money for my family i know nothing about running or hedging a company i really don't think this is job for i just rather step down from the position
SUCCESS IS NOT FINAL;FAILURE IS NOT FATAL :IT IS THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE THAT COUNTS. BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES ARE LIKE BUSES, THERE’S ALWAYS ANOTHER ONE COMING.
To manage investment risk, consider maintaining a broad diversification of your investments that reflects your personal risk tolerance, time horizon, and the nature of your financial goal.
Remember, diversification is an approach to help manage investment risk. It does not eliminate the risk of loss if security prices decline. Because investing can be complicated, consider working with a financial professional to help guide you on your wealth-building journey.
Fun Fact: Warren Buffet once made a million dollar bet that 5 of the top rated hedge funds in the US would fail to beat the market over a 10 year term. By the time the bet was over the hedge funds had earned 36% to the market's 126% returns, and lost more EVERY YEAR except one. Despite this, the fund managers took home hundreds of millions in fees and salaries for the 'good job' Makes you think...
Hedge fund managers and their clients do not care too much about beating market rates of return. The reason why billionaires dump lump sums into hedge funds is because their potential losses are capped at 10%. If they had all their money in the markets, coronavirus would have wiped out half their portfolio.
Martin G exactly, at fund I work for, we maximize our risk ratios (sharpe, treynor, etc) to gauge investor preference for risk. The measurement Buffett displayed was simply arithmetic returns, not geometric. Our clients prefer not being exposed to certain markets and are far more satisfied knowing that we have never delivered a negative year. Our ability take on exposures across any asset class or derivative enables us to act extraordinarily fast to generally offset any losses with negatively correlated positions. Investing in hedge funds requires high due diligence because some certainly fail to deliver this objective, but many still do, and those are far more valuable than any index fund.
As Cliff Asness has said, they don't compete with the S&P since the market ignores position sizing. Hedge funds are not taking 5 million to invest, they manage billions of dollars, try investing that in the market without hickjacking the price of a stock. 6% on a 30 billion fund is not that bad if you think about it.
Fun fact: some hedges in Britain have been around since Anglo-Saxon times (approx 600-1066AD) but a lot of them were got rid of in the 50s for higher yield agriculture. I 100% support hedge funds for actual hedges!
Based on this explanation of the "structure," it's hard to believe that this arrangement was ever about anything but avoiding taxes. Tax avoidance and hedging risk are really separate goals. You could buy options to hedge risks. The take home lesson is to have a tax haven to offload your profits onto.
It actually did very well, by stating that hedge funds aren't actually hedging. The hedge fund of old would not have shorted 140% of any company I don't think.
@@justanoman6497 I'm sure some hedge funds actually use hedging strategies, though maybe not Melvin or Citron. Also, 140% wasn't the short position of a single fund.
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Hedge funds aren't supposed to be hedged, they're supposed to be _hedges_. They are investment vehicles with alpha that is uncorrelated to the market. The good ones have better alpha than the S&P (net fees). The hedge fund actually shouldn't hedge its own risk, that is the investor's job.
Since most of your video referred to US tax rates and such, I assume that you're trying to talk about how things work in the US. Your explanation of the ownership structure and the assets of a partnership are somewhat wrong. They're still somewhat accurate in the broad strokes and what it all means for tax purposes, but a lot of the details are wrong. Partnerships are taxed in a way such that it supposedly would have the same effect as if the partner held a proportionate interest in those assets equal to his percentage interest in the partnership, and dealing with all the special cases involved makes partnership tax law quite complicated. The partnership is still a separate legal entity, and enters into contracts in its own name. You also said partnerships aren't companies, but here you confused the meaning of corporation and company. Partnerships are not corporations, but they are companies. I don't know if this is a lack of familiarity with US law and terminology or a slip of the tongue. Corporations are definitely taxed quite differently than non-corporations, and any entity with more than one owner that's not a corporation is taxed as a partnership. But the term "company" refers to any entity, incorporated or not, and doesn't really have any legal meaning in US tax law. The loophole you mention of shipping your profits to an insurance company in an offshore jurisdiction still works, but makes you subject to the Base Erosion Anti-Abuse Tax (BEAT) that was introduced in the TCJA tax overhaul. The rate isn't as high as income taxes, but it specifically helps deal with the practice of having US companies pay deductible expenses to related companies that are not required to pay US taxes, thus eroding the tax base of the US. How it's calculated is very complicated, as it needs to be to prevent people from abusing tax laws with convoluted structures while not overly penalizing those who are operating in the normal bounds of business. www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-tcja-base-erosion-and-anti-abuse-tax-and-how-does-it-work The carried interest loophole was also supposed to be closed by the TCJA, but unlike with the BEAT, I haven't done any continuing education on the topic so I don't know exactly what happened there.
Economics Explained: "The average return of the largest 100 hedge fonds in america was almost exactly that of market returns" Renaissance Technology: "Hold my mathbook"
I think you meant to use libel (false statements that are written down) not slander (refers to false statements that are orally spoken) Though you would have a tough time proving either in court 😂
@@EconomicsExplained Tax evasion = Drain on economy , but dont worry the working and middle class will cover the cost . MAN can we fix this bullshit soon PLEASE
@@drjp4212 man we need some taxes, hospitals , police , it wouldnt feel so cuntish though if the upper classes stopped avoiding their share. The working and middle class would be relieved, from a LOT of the current taxes they are paying. Economies are strong when working and middle class have spare cash , money flowing among those sections of society, not when 25 people own everything, and everyone else works for them. Its time the upper class started paying their fair share, greedy psychopaths
Not all hedge funds are trying to "beat the market" because many don't invest in stocks. There are many hedge funds that invest in alternative assets (art, short term business loans, short term real estate loans, movies for example). The purpose of these in the client's portfolio is not to outperform stocks, it is to diversify. Even hedge funds that do invest in stocks and traditional assets may be using a strategy that has a low correlation to the overall market. Maximizing return is the highest priority for poor people. Diversifying and normalizing returns are #1 for wealthy people, maximizing is second.
That makes no sense. They still pay a capital gains tax. I'd rather pay the capital gains tax and make a return than make nothing and lose to inflation.
Hey EE, have you considered making a video about Keynes's idea for Bancor? It's an intriguing idea I've almost never seen discussed outside the likes of IMF White Papers, and the logic behind it (punish trade surpluses as much as trade deficits in order to stabilize global currency flows and avert recessions) is so interesting that I think it deserves more attention. At the very least, I'd love to see an actual economist try to explain its bewilderingly simple (yet definitely bewildering) logic, and you could cover the Triffin Dilemma/Triffin Paradox for those of us who want to see you tackle more arcane concepts in economics. Thanks for the videos.
I believe that when it come financial market, working for the money shouldn't be the priority rather we work for the assets that are profitable by so doing cash flows in.
A profitable outcome is not the result of luck but to apply the right institute which are profitable with experience of professionals over countless economic shifts.
Fadel dymek I'm doing quite well investing with Mark Carey a licensed broker and a portfolio manager. You can as well reach him if you need help with your portfolio.
@11:43 "It means that with some careful accounting that hedge fund managers often pay a lower percentage of tax than the janitor who cleans their office at the end of the day." Sounds like a fully sustainable way to structure civilization that couldn't possibly collapse within a few decades.
NO YOU CAN'T FORCE AN UNSUSTAINABLE REGRESSIVE TAXATION SYSTEM ON THE WORKING CLASSES THAT WILL MAKE THEM ANGRY AND LOWER THEIR STANDARDS OF LIVING america: tax cuts for the rich go BRRRRRRR
@@ggogg5689 Now here is a man that is sticking up for my interests, uhhh... I mean the people's interests! Yes, the people need to understand that if I get a tax break I'll totally invest it into factories in America and not Bangladesh because I care about people and not how little I get to pay those slaves, I mean workers!
I have been following you since the very beginning and have seen you grow. Your work and dedication has inspired me to start my own channel and put in a lot of effort Looking forward to your support and advice as always!
You nailed exactly what I myself is doing in the first 20seconds. My 50 TABS open on my Computer on all things Finance and wanting to know more about Hedge Funds. :)
I still can't say that I understand what/why modern hedge funds are, but I know more than I did before watching this video! Maybe it'll sink in better if I rewatch another day :)
What it really means it identifies an investor as a high net worth experienced investors. Important in connection with the "fiduciary responsibility" of the Investment Advisor. Such clients can take big risks, they know what they are doing and they will not be broke if an investment goes south on them. If you are a retiree and invest your life savings, the Investment Advisor is not allowed to let you invest in high-risk investments because he has the responsibility to warn you and protect your interests.
The primary reason why hedge funds are failing to beat markets in last decade is due to their sheer sizes...and hedge fund market becoming size of 4-5 trillion dollars in US, most of which employ similar strategies in similar basket of stonks.
why not do it if you can? And are you really not contributing to society this way? You're still fueling the economy by existing. You're not actively harming anyone and you even manage to stop funds unnecessarily going to the wasteful hands of the government, which is morally the right thing to do. Governments need their taxes, sure, but not at the rate they take from you.
@@Sam-fs1ok The company making the product is generating wealth; the people betting on the success of that company aren't. The people mining oil or copper or some other material are generating wealth; the people betting on the price of what they are mining aren't. The farmer growing crops is generating wealth; the people trading futures back and forth between themselves without ever producing or consuming the crops aren't.
Most hedge funds are basically vehicles for hedge funds managers to make a lot of money for nothing while at the same time using tax loopholes (capital interest loophole) to pay low tax rates. To give you an example, John Meriwether crashed not one but his first TWO hedge funds, yet is estimated to be worth $100 million. Not surprisingly, his third hedge fund is having trouble attracting investors
Hey Economics Explained, can you make another video on the economy of India because I think a single video wasn't enough to cover the economy of such a huge country.
Index funds are losing their ground... They are just fueling bubbles, and sticking you with garbage when only a few stocks are driving the entire index...... As we move into the information age do you really want to hold the entire index? You dont... Basket pick
@@Thesupermachine2000 don't think you have read ray Dali's book. How many of the top 30 US companies in the 70-80's still exist today. As someone who has done CFA, funds create good passive investment returns. However they do create bubbles. When you own an ETF you don't own the actual shares in the underlying. What happens if the ETF has to restructure? well means they have to liquidate their asset positions that are no long necessary creating downward pressure on prices
Hedge funds originate from farmers. Farmers make a contract with a hedge fund that they will be able to sell their crops by at least a certain amount. It’s called a hedge, because it can’t be cut lower than what they agree on. Hedge fund gets a fee and farmer get’s insurance that they’ll make at least that much. It’s still done today, but, of course, hedge funds are much more complicated than crop prices these days. But their fundamentals of making money from risk remains.
When I was a kid I was making that in my savings account that credit union. Most of the early and even mid 90's. It's why it's rather sad to see the pathetic savings today... and CD's they're even worse than a savings account back then. And we wonder why we have investment boom and bust cycles increasing in oscillation and devastation. And businesses are consolidating to fewer and fewer. End game of capitalism though... consolidated a few or one big corporation that owns it all... then it either goes broke because it can't find enough buyers as everyone is broke and spins off all its capacity. And/or mass of people so poor rebel and change the system. And/or to draw attention elsewhere a war is started with some other nation. Nothing like a war to pacify the people... seriously though a congressman back in 1860's just as the US Civil War was coming to an end, suggested going to war with a variety of nations as way to unify (pacify) the country.
I would define a hedge fund proper as a fund that pursues investment strategies which hedge unwanted risks while isolating exposure to a desired risk. That’s not necessarily how it works now, but it‘s how it SHOULD work.
Economics Explained There are still a fair number who continue to do classical long-short strategies, and strategies like volatility that require delta-hedging. And there are more of these than there were back in the day, especially those of a more quant variety who follow the academic finance literature. But the biggest segment of the hedge fund business is definitely „Let‘s call this a hedge fund because it lends an tone of sophistication to what we do.“
Can you do a video about legal tax avoidance strategies for Americans including offshore banking and expand on the offshore insurance company startup you touched on in this video?
@@EconomicsExplained Sometimes, when watching your videos, I wonder what is going through the heads of the actors in the B-roll. And that B-roll is like the muzak of film. It's kind of mesmerizing, actually...
A short is a key market instrument for anyone in a market. Most of you would have heard of the big short in 2008/9 where people bet against the market and profited from its decline. This is essentially a shorts purpose, in finance it acts as a way to profit from a downtrend in the market rather than just always having to buy and sell. Bringing the market into a much needed balance as the pressure from short action maintains a healthy market (to a degree) For of those of you who are still here a short is essentially borrowing someones long (invested for a long period of time or the exchange itselves) buy position selling it at that point at a given point in the market. You dont actually own the shares but are taking responsibility for them and therefor 'liable', you are therefor obliged to buy those shares back at some point to return them. This allows investors to profit from a downtrend as they can sell the stock at lets say £100 and buy it back at £50, profiting from a market decline of the difference. (Obviously making a loss if the market ticks upwards).
I'm sorry. I can't find your link about going in depth on Short-Selling in the description 4:55 i'm really interested in what you had to show about it. Thank you for the video! Really interesting!
If only all the people in charge of tax rules weren’t the ones profiting the most from this loophole... This video is great guide for the future lawmakers to change rules to remove tax loopholes
@@ext3rmen8er they were forced to do that by Citadel. Robinhood can't place your orders themselves so Citadel, their customer, does it for them. Citadel is their customer because Robinhood sells them your orders (if Citadel notices you want to buy x amount of shares, they can buy right before you and make money on that as price evolves). You're not robinhood's customer, you're their product. I didn't come up with this explanation, visit the website "isthesqueezesquoze" dot com to get more info and further your research
I mean, yes some hedge funds work like this. You also have ucits funds which are a whole different breed of fund as limited partner funds. The hedge funds out there to beat the market with the same volatility do not work out on the long term. You also have market neutral and arbitrage funds that have very good risk ajusted returns, a lot of times better than the market.
Nice video! I must add that its not the profit, but the sharpe ratio. A portfolio with 7% returns and 5% volatility is much better than portfolio with 7% returns and 10% volatility.
*Hedge Fund* _(noun)_ : A money company owned by a rich man made to make that rich man richer by using his money* *_*mainly by using that money to borrow stocks from a failing company while its stock prices are shrinking, immediately selling those stocks, and then giving back what those stocks are currently worth to the lending company at the now shrunken buyback price, thereby accelerating AND capitalizing another company's failure by taking the property they could've used to get themselves back in the black and pawning it behind their backs while still claiming to have compensated them for the venture._* synonyms: *grift* There. Simple.
So once you make your billions of dollars as a hedge fund manager, make sure to remember us over here at EE - www.patreon.com/EconomicsExplained
@economics explained is the type of guy to press Clear on the calculator 15 times
Economics Explained so the average return of the top-100 hedge funds was the same as the average market return. I’m curious to know: what is the average return of the top 20% of hedge funds by AUM? I think that would be a better representation of the industry, as the spread across 100 firms could be very wide and the signal could get diluted.
It will be well worth it. It is like you gave us the secrets of power or something.🤣
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@@maven8653 because the car exists while the wife does not.
Can you do the economics of why my wife left me
Steve from across the road had more productive potential. She was simply seeking the highest utility value for her investment of time....
@@EconomicsExplained oof
@@EconomicsExplained nooo lmaoooo
@@EconomicsExplained bring some water you guys.someone got burnt.
Economics Explained thank you
The tab selections were simply perfect..
The online degenerate starterpack.
@@EconomicsExplained wsb and spin&go, name a better duo 😂
@@EconomicsExplained How was the 5 original tenders pack from KFC? How can one determine the intrinsic value of the 5 original tenders pack? Pls make a video on this.
Kthxbye
I dont wanna be a hedge fund in just wanted to make extra money for my family i know nothing about running or hedging a company i really don't think this is job for i just rather step down from the position
SUCCESS IS NOT FINAL;FAILURE IS NOT FATAL :IT IS THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE THAT COUNTS. BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES ARE LIKE BUSES, THERE’S ALWAYS ANOTHER ONE COMING.
To manage investment risk, consider maintaining a broad diversification of your investments that reflects your personal risk tolerance, time horizon, and the nature of your financial goal.
Remember, diversification is an approach to help manage investment risk. It does not eliminate the risk of loss if security prices decline. Because investing can be complicated, consider working with a financial professional to help guide you on your wealth-building journey.
Who would you endorse ?.
@@mayacho4910'MARTHA ALONSO HARA".
@@greenquake11931 How do i reach her?.
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Just googled this. Had no idea. Great topic.
Yep I would be interested in that.
Please 🙏🏼
Would definitely watch it
Ooo, I would love a video about that!
People who say they wanna start a hedge fund really just wanna do coke and drink at 10 in the morning
@@리주민 I think he meant the recreational drug (cocaine), not the soda.
리주민 he’s talking about blowing fat lines
I do that anyways
@@grahamturner2640 I think he was being sarcastic because of the wink emoji.
Nah, coke is for the IBankers, hedgies do meditation and moda/L$D are their drugs of choice
Fun Fact: Warren Buffet once made a million dollar bet that 5 of the top rated hedge funds in the US would fail to beat the market over a 10 year term. By the time the bet was over the hedge funds had earned 36% to the market's 126% returns, and lost more EVERY YEAR except one. Despite this, the fund managers took home hundreds of millions in fees and salaries for the 'good job'
Makes you think...
Hedge fund managers and their clients do not care too much about beating market rates of return. The reason why billionaires dump lump sums into hedge funds is because their potential losses are capped at 10%. If they had all their money in the markets, coronavirus would have wiped out half their portfolio.
@@wngmartin
and 100% of the debt would remain. leaving most billionaires with negative equity and infact bankrupt.
Martin G exactly, at fund I work for, we maximize our risk ratios (sharpe, treynor, etc) to gauge investor preference for risk. The measurement Buffett displayed was simply arithmetic returns, not geometric. Our clients prefer not being exposed to certain markets and are far more satisfied knowing that we have never delivered a negative year. Our ability take on exposures across any asset class or derivative enables us to act extraordinarily fast to generally offset any losses with negatively correlated positions. Investing in hedge funds requires high due diligence because some certainly fail to deliver this objective, but many still do, and those are far more valuable than any index fund.
As Cliff Asness has said, they don't compete with the S&P since the market ignores position sizing. Hedge funds are not taking 5 million to invest, they manage billions of dollars, try investing that in the market without hickjacking the price of a stock. 6% on a 30 billion fund is not that bad if you think about it.
Martin G can u plz explain why 10% loss is the cap? Isn’t it possible the fund fails to return anything
hedge funds should be put towards rebuilding hedges.
They certainly are a neglected piece of foliage these days
Based
the profile pic matches this perfectly
Fun fact: some hedges in Britain have been around since Anglo-Saxon times (approx 600-1066AD) but a lot of them were got rid of in the 50s for higher yield agriculture. I 100% support hedge funds for actual hedges!
What I was expecting --> "Hedge Funds are a vehicle of investment"
What I got --> "Nah...Hedge Funds are really just a way to rich avoid taxes"
Lol, what you really got is the garbage of a "wannabe" Wallstreet expert.
There are easier way to avoid taxes
My wife asks me every day this week if there is a new economics explained video yet, I am starting to get jealous of your sexy Australian accent. D:
Send me an email, I will read a poem to her from you in my accent lovely bogan accent.
Lol.
You need to optimize your portfolio man, to tipp the scale.
B1tch3s loves them m0n3ys
@@googleuser9383 sell boxspreads on Robinhood. It literally cannot go tits up.
@@UncleMerlin GUH
Based on this explanation of the "structure," it's hard to believe that this arrangement was ever about anything but avoiding taxes. Tax avoidance and hedging risk are really separate goals. You could buy options to hedge risks. The take home lesson is to have a tax haven to offload your profits onto.
Y’all here after GameStop?
TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON !!!!
Yessir lol
Yup
Yep
To the 🌚
well this video has aged well after _The Big Squeeze_ of 2021
Aint happening yet, HOLD THE LINE!
It actually did very well, by stating that hedge funds aren't actually hedging. The hedge fund of old would not have shorted 140% of any company I don't think.
Yet to come*
@@justanoman6497 I'm sure some hedge funds actually use hedging strategies, though maybe not Melvin or Citron. Also, 140% wasn't the short position of a single fund.
welp that didnt age well.
Last time I was this early the market made sense
Bob Smith dead meme, not even used properly
@@clarkchavez7053 ok boomer
@@clarkchavez7053 i think the joke is that you have to at least 60 years old to remember when the markets made sense
This is you tube.. be more funny
You mean, in early february / late january?
the stock footage you use man is absolutely amazing, makes me wanna binge your entire channel
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5:33 a man of culture
1:48 the editor pulled a pun
I have fun occasionally
What my friends and family think I do as a hedge fund manager: 0:40
What I actually do: 8:26
yeah sounds about right.
@@EconomicsExplained This is the first time in a while you've posted during Aussie evening hours, aren't you risking a deluge on the discord server?
As long as the emus don't come up in large numbers I guess things will be fine
Fancy seeing you here...
last time i was this early the Zimbabwe Dollar still had value
That's a lie.
how did you even type this so fast?
Video uploaded 6mins ago this comment is from 8minutes interesting u was pretty early
@@EconomicsExplained my good man, you have your talents and I have mine. Love your teams work BTW keep it up.
Hedge funds aren't supposed to be hedged, they're supposed to be _hedges_. They are investment vehicles with alpha that is uncorrelated to the market. The good ones have better alpha than the S&P (net fees). The hedge fund actually shouldn't hedge its own risk, that is the investor's job.
Not true!! If uncorrelated with the market, then you cannot measure them against S&P!!! And this is exactly their argument for them being them... :DDD
@@Harry-lq2jz he specifically said with alpha that's uncorrelated to the market
@@astrogaymerxd7290
Well done!
Since most of your video referred to US tax rates and such, I assume that you're trying to talk about how things work in the US. Your explanation of the ownership structure and the assets of a partnership are somewhat wrong. They're still somewhat accurate in the broad strokes and what it all means for tax purposes, but a lot of the details are wrong. Partnerships are taxed in a way such that it supposedly would have the same effect as if the partner held a proportionate interest in those assets equal to his percentage interest in the partnership, and dealing with all the special cases involved makes partnership tax law quite complicated. The partnership is still a separate legal entity, and enters into contracts in its own name. You also said partnerships aren't companies, but here you confused the meaning of corporation and company. Partnerships are not corporations, but they are companies. I don't know if this is a lack of familiarity with US law and terminology or a slip of the tongue. Corporations are definitely taxed quite differently than non-corporations, and any entity with more than one owner that's not a corporation is taxed as a partnership. But the term "company" refers to any entity, incorporated or not, and doesn't really have any legal meaning in US tax law.
The loophole you mention of shipping your profits to an insurance company in an offshore jurisdiction still works, but makes you subject to the Base Erosion Anti-Abuse Tax (BEAT) that was introduced in the TCJA tax overhaul. The rate isn't as high as income taxes, but it specifically helps deal with the practice of having US companies pay deductible expenses to related companies that are not required to pay US taxes, thus eroding the tax base of the US. How it's calculated is very complicated, as it needs to be to prevent people from abusing tax laws with convoluted structures while not overly penalizing those who are operating in the normal bounds of business. www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-tcja-base-erosion-and-anti-abuse-tax-and-how-does-it-work
The carried interest loophole was also supposed to be closed by the TCJA, but unlike with the BEAT, I haven't done any continuing education on the topic so I don't know exactly what happened there.
Steven Glowacki are you, uh, an IRS agent?
Bump up you go
bump this
buuuuump
Surely you've got to explain some of how he was wrong or this comment is pointless.
Hedge funds charge really high fees for underperformance
Well some don't, but in general you are right.
Awesome profile pic dude :)
A bit like buying a rolex then?
Hedge fund fees are at all time lows. Most are just trying to have absolute returns no matter the market condition, and hedge against a bear market.
"put your redbull and gambling addiction to use' made me laugh loud, love your videos mate, keep'em coming!
Unfortunately, apart from entertainment, you will not learn anything. It's pretty much that late-night last cup bull shitting bable.
Economics Explained: "The average return of the largest 100 hedge fonds in america was almost exactly that of market returns"
Renaissance Technology: "Hold my mathbook"
submit to the algorithms
But what's their beta?
I'd say what's their sharpe ratio too, but that one is kind of bullshit.
@@razzlfraz why is sharpe "bullshit"?
Actually, hedge funds grow less due to the fee they charge you haha
@@razzlfraz Volatility isn't risk
Would love to learn more about Venture Capital funds. Will you do a video on that?
Keep the good work!
Came here after a bunch of Redditor’s *absolutely slandered* Hedge fund manipulators
Sameeee. I’m trying to really understand what’s going on
I think you meant to use libel (false statements that are written down) not slander (refers to false statements that are orally spoken)
Though you would have a tough time proving either in court
😂
Guide to becoming rich in 2020:
Tax evasion
Need to earn money first before you can avoid paying taxes on it.
@@EconomicsExplained Tax evasion = Drain on economy , but dont worry the working and middle class will cover the cost . MAN can we fix this bullshit soon PLEASE
Economics Explained for the concerns of the IRS, I earn nothing at all
@@10908070605040302 Why not freeing out working and middle class for those costs too?
Why do you think taxes are "good for societies"?
@@drjp4212 man we need some taxes, hospitals , police , it wouldnt feel so cuntish though if the upper classes stopped avoiding their share. The working and middle class would be relieved, from a LOT of the current taxes they are paying.
Economies are strong when working and middle class have spare cash , money flowing among those sections of society, not when 25 people own everything, and everyone else works for them. Its time the upper class started paying their fair share, greedy psychopaths
Not all hedge funds are trying to "beat the market" because many don't invest in stocks. There are many hedge funds that invest in alternative assets (art, short term business loans, short term real estate loans, movies for example). The purpose of these in the client's portfolio is not to outperform stocks, it is to diversify. Even hedge funds that do invest in stocks and traditional assets may be using a strategy that has a low correlation to the overall market. Maximizing return is the highest priority for poor people. Diversifying and normalizing returns are #1 for wealthy people, maximizing is second.
what did I learn: hedge funds are great to avoid taxes ! even with 0% growth, the fact that you aren't paying income tax makes it a good thing
That is, for the managers themselves
Hedge - is a tax laundry as losses are brought forward so investments are tax negative.
That makes no sense. They still pay a capital gains tax. I'd rather pay the capital gains tax and make a return than make nothing and lose to inflation.
I love how you mention bobby axelrod in there
Do a video on private equity!!!
Hedge funds are a misleading name. They are very UNhedged funds
More like Leverage Funds AMIRITE!!??
@@EconomicsExplained Economist's Jokes confuse me and I dont like it.
Brilliant growth on subscribers mate. Been here since when under 5k followers which wasn’t really that long ago 👌🏻
Not long ago at all!
Hey EE, have you considered making a video about Keynes's idea for Bancor? It's an intriguing idea I've almost never seen discussed outside the likes of IMF White Papers, and the logic behind it (punish trade surpluses as much as trade deficits in order to stabilize global currency flows and avert recessions) is so interesting that I think it deserves more attention. At the very least, I'd love to see an actual economist try to explain its bewilderingly simple (yet definitely bewildering) logic, and you could cover the Triffin Dilemma/Triffin Paradox for those of us who want to see you tackle more arcane concepts in economics. Thanks for the videos.
I believe that when it come financial market, working for the money shouldn't be the priority rather we work for the assets that are profitable by so doing cash flows in.
While there’s merit in only risking money you can afford to lose, there’s also a risk with being undercapitalized.
A profitable outcome is not the result of luck but to apply the right institute which are profitable with experience of professionals over countless economic shifts.
Yea I believe that every market is worth profiting from but not when one is naive.
I would like to be part of this similar service like this Jace, what's your take so far?
Fadel dymek I'm doing quite well investing with Mark Carey a licensed broker and a portfolio manager. You can as well reach him if you need help with your portfolio.
@11:43 "It means that with some careful accounting that hedge fund managers often pay a lower percentage of tax than the janitor who cleans their office at the end of the day."
Sounds like a fully sustainable way to structure civilization that couldn't possibly collapse within a few decades.
Yep I see no problems here...
*liberterians leave the chat*
NO YOU CAN'T FORCE AN UNSUSTAINABLE REGRESSIVE TAXATION SYSTEM ON THE WORKING CLASSES THAT WILL MAKE THEM ANGRY AND LOWER THEIR STANDARDS OF LIVING
america: tax cuts for the rich go BRRRRRRR
Just cause the whole, nobility don't have to pay taxes but the peasants do, didn't work for france in the 1700s doesn't mean it can't work now.
@@ggogg5689 Now here is a man that is sticking up for my interests, uhhh... I mean the people's interests! Yes, the people need to understand that if I get a tax break I'll totally invest it into factories in America and not Bangladesh because I care about people and not how little I get to pay those slaves, I mean workers!
Imagine making high quality videos with a 4 day gap/2 day gaps. Clap clap
I have been following you since the very beginning and have seen you grow. Your work and dedication has inspired me to start my own channel and put in a lot of effort
Looking forward to your support and advice as always!
Who else is watching this with GME stock price in another tab.
I am
great explanation and examples, very easy to understand, presentation was fun to watch, giggled abit on some parts. very well done, thanks a ton mate.
5:33 Stonks only go up
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You know i have a lot of unemployment jokes.
Alright, can you say one?
Sorry, they're not working
....
You deserve a stimulus check
to the guillotine.sorry wrong channel
so what do i do for a living?Copy paste memes.
As one business youtuber would say it:
Badda-Boom-Boom-Tsssshhhh
GME TO THE MOON🚀🚀
man every video of yoursis super informative Thank You! Please keep it up
You nailed exactly what I myself is doing in the first 20seconds. My 50 TABS open on my Computer on all things Finance and wanting to know more about Hedge Funds. :)
4:52 - This is the second time now that you've said you'll leave aditional content linked in the description of the video without having done so.
"Hold up there tiger"... I broke out in laughter at the graphic...genius
4:54 there is no video in the description, again!
I was looking for the same thing.
I still can't say that I understand what/why modern hedge funds are, but I know more than I did before watching this video! Maybe it'll sink in better if I rewatch another day :)
I had no idea there was a category called "sophisticated investor" and it's written into law. Why does this exist?
us laws to help them evade taxes and some benefits i assume, sounds like rebranding nobility lol
The idea is to protect silly average joes being brought into proprietary trading schemes that they don't fully understand ala wolf of wall street.
What it really means it identifies an investor as a high net worth experienced investors. Important in connection with the "fiduciary responsibility" of the Investment Advisor.
Such clients can take big risks, they know what they are doing and they will not be broke if an investment goes south on them.
If you are a retiree and invest your life savings, the Investment Advisor is not allowed to let you invest in high-risk investments because he has the responsibility to warn you and protect your interests.
The primary reason why hedge funds are failing to beat markets in last decade is due to their sheer sizes...and hedge fund market becoming size of 4-5 trillion dollars in US, most of which employ similar strategies in similar basket of stonks.
Wall Street Bets is full of wannabe hedge fund managers
Just wanted to tell u that u are the most informative on these topics. Learned a lot
How to make billions without contributing anything to society, and dodging taxes to the society which allowed you to make your money
I mean, you aren't wrong..
@@EconomicsExplained absolutely wrong, generating wealth for all people of society. Don't see how that isn't contributing anything.
@@Sam-fs1ok 😂😂😂 For all people of society! That's a good one!
why not do it if you can? And are you really not contributing to society this way? You're still fueling the economy by existing. You're not actively harming anyone and you even manage to stop funds unnecessarily going to the wasteful hands of the government, which is morally the right thing to do. Governments need their taxes, sure, but not at the rate they take from you.
@@Sam-fs1ok
The company making the product is generating wealth; the people betting on the success of that company aren't.
The people mining oil or copper or some other material are generating wealth; the people betting on the price of what they are mining aren't.
The farmer growing crops is generating wealth; the people trading futures back and forth between themselves without ever producing or consuming the crops aren't.
Most hedge funds are basically vehicles for hedge funds managers to make a lot of money for nothing while at the same time using tax loopholes (capital interest loophole) to pay low tax rates. To give you an example, John Meriwether crashed not one but his first TWO hedge funds, yet is estimated to be worth $100 million. Not surprisingly, his third hedge fund is having trouble attracting investors
Hey Economics Explained, can you make another video on the economy of India because I think a single video wasn't enough to cover the economy of such a huge country.
Yeah I will probably re explore it at some point in the future
@@EconomicsExplained Thank you :)
Brilliant overview, as usual. Thanks mate!
We like the stock
To thumbs-up great content, verifiable by those in the know and good presentation video recommended.
please do a video on the economy of Yugoslavia
it's in the plan. Every country will be done soon :)
@@EconomicsExplained how about new zealand or as notmal people call it "new what?"
No video in the description....
"You can't stop me because I can't read!"
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"Perhaps it's time to put your Red Bull and gambling addiction to good use"... I almost spit my drink out from laughing
Index funds are losing their ground... They are just fueling bubbles, and sticking you with garbage when only a few stocks are driving the entire index...... As we move into the information age do you really want to hold the entire index? You dont... Basket pick
So choose :-) good luck with predicting the future
@@Thesupermachine2000 don't think you have read ray Dali's book. How many of the top 30 US companies in the 70-80's still exist today. As someone who has done CFA, funds create good passive investment returns. However they do create bubbles. When you own an ETF you don't own the actual shares in the underlying. What happens if the ETF has to restructure? well means they have to liquidate their asset positions that are no long necessary creating downward pressure on prices
Liverpoolaussie21 you didn‘t do CFA, otherwise there would be at least one correct sentence in that paragraph
Buy safe stocks if you want to be safe, not indexes
Hedge funds originate from farmers. Farmers make a contract with a hedge fund that they will be able to sell their crops by at least a certain amount.
It’s called a hedge, because it can’t be cut lower than what they agree on. Hedge fund gets a fee and farmer get’s insurance that they’ll make at least that much.
It’s still done today, but, of course, hedge funds are much more complicated than crop prices these days. But their fundamentals of making money from risk remains.
Better term is institutional investing. Keep up the great work EE, the more everyone is educated on money the better off everyone is.
Thanks for the time and effort
My pleasure!
*All hail r/wallstreetbets!!*
HEIL WALLSTREETBETS
Wow! That was an eye opener! Was planning to put couple of millions in it for the retirement XD
I heard you used to be able to get over 5% with a savings account.
When I was a kid I was making that in my savings account that credit union.
Most of the early and even mid 90's. It's why it's rather sad to see the pathetic savings today... and CD's they're even worse than a savings account back then.
And we wonder why we have investment boom and bust cycles increasing in oscillation and devastation. And businesses are consolidating to fewer and fewer.
End game of capitalism though... consolidated a few or one big corporation that owns it all... then it either goes broke because it can't find enough buyers as everyone is broke and spins off all its capacity. And/or mass of people so poor rebel and change the system. And/or to draw attention elsewhere a war is started with some other nation. Nothing like a war to pacify the people... seriously though a congressman back in 1860's just as the US Civil War was coming to an end, suggested going to war with a variety of nations as way to unify (pacify) the country.
Of course, those were the days when you paid 20% on your mortgage.
I would define a hedge fund proper as a fund that pursues investment strategies which hedge unwanted risks while isolating exposure to a desired risk.
That’s not necessarily how it works now, but it‘s how it SHOULD work.
Yeah this was the intention back in the day. Now they are just crazy prop trading houses with fancy structures and even fancier fees
Economics Explained There are still a fair number who continue to do classical long-short strategies, and strategies like volatility that require delta-hedging. And there are more of these than there were back in the day, especially those of a more quant variety who follow the academic finance literature. But the biggest segment of the hedge fund business is definitely „Let‘s call this a hedge fund because it lends an tone of sophistication to what we do.“
Bernie Madoff was good for consistent returns
Yeah funny that aye?
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Who els is watching this after the game-stop thing?
Can you do a video about legal tax avoidance strategies for Americans including offshore banking and expand on the offshore insurance company startup you touched on in this video?
*Where do you get your B Roll, asking for a friend...*
Storyblocks mostly. It's an annual subscription but it is a lot cheaper than sites where you have to buy each clip individually.
@@EconomicsExplained Sometimes, when watching your videos, I wonder what is going through the heads of the actors in the B-roll. And that B-roll is like the muzak of film. It's kind of mesmerizing, actually...
@@EconomicsExplained Thank you 👍
There is no video link about short selling in description :(
Hedge Funds Explained: You're actually thinking of a Proprietary Trading Shop
I love this channel! Thank you for the content.
No worries mate, thanks for watching :)
re watching because of GameStop lol
The Australian accent is great paired with the quality of your videos. Thank you for your content.
anyone here because of Gamestop?
A short is a key market instrument for anyone in a market. Most of you would have heard of the big short in 2008/9 where people bet against the market and profited from its decline. This is essentially a shorts purpose, in finance it acts as a way to profit from a downtrend in the market rather than just always having to buy and sell. Bringing the market into a much needed balance as the pressure from short action maintains a healthy market (to a degree)
For of those of you who are still here a short is essentially borrowing someones long (invested for a long period of time or the exchange itselves) buy position selling it at that point at a given point in the market. You dont actually own the shares but are taking responsibility for them and therefor 'liable', you are therefor obliged to buy those shares back at some point to return them. This allows investors to profit from a downtrend as they can sell the stock at lets say £100 and buy it back at £50, profiting from a market decline of the difference. (Obviously making a loss if the market ticks upwards).
8:36 Ah cool, so basically just *tax evasion*
I'm sorry. I can't find your link about going in depth on Short-Selling in the description 4:55 i'm really interested in what you had to show about it. Thank you for the video! Really interesting!
Why don't government tax revenue instead of profit? Would it not stop most tax evasion schemes???
Index Fund > Hedge Funds
If only all the people in charge of tax rules weren’t the ones profiting the most from this loophole...
This video is great guide for the future lawmakers to change rules to remove tax loopholes
Ahh but by the time you can become a lawmaker you are probably already benifiting off this right?
HOLD GME
Fantastic episode, brilliantly explained, thanks!
TO THE MOON🚀🚀🚀
As an accountant. No, hedging dies eliminate risk in most cases.
Nah. Ima stay with reddit and robinhood.
Robin Hood just fucked everyone over by not letting you buy GME
@@ext3rmen8er they were forced to do that by Citadel. Robinhood can't place your orders themselves so Citadel, their customer, does it for them. Citadel is their customer because Robinhood sells them your orders (if Citadel notices you want to buy x amount of shares, they can buy right before you and make money on that as price evolves). You're not robinhood's customer, you're their product. I didn't come up with this explanation, visit the website "isthesqueezesquoze" dot com to get more info and further your research
@@__-cd9ug I understand now thanks !
Do a video on the SAPs their origin, effects, impact, rationale and alternatives.
NOTICE ME SENPAIIII
you are noticed.
I mean, yes some hedge funds work like this. You also have ucits funds which are a whole different breed of fund as limited partner funds. The hedge funds out there to beat the market with the same volatility do not work out on the long term. You also have market neutral and arbitrage funds that have very good risk ajusted returns, a lot of times better than the market.
Last time I was this early I had rights...
Last time I was this early, people were willing to sit inside for a few months to save hundreds of thousands of lives.
Nice video! I must add that its not the profit, but the sharpe ratio. A portfolio with 7% returns and 5% volatility is much better than portfolio with 7% returns and 10% volatility.
*Hedge Fund* _(noun)_ :
A money company owned by a rich man made to make that rich man richer by using his money*
*_*mainly by using that money to borrow stocks from a failing company while its stock prices are shrinking, immediately selling those stocks, and then giving back what those stocks are currently worth to the lending company at the now shrunken buyback price, thereby accelerating AND capitalizing another company's failure by taking the property they could've used to get themselves back in the black and pawning it behind their backs while still claiming to have compensated them for the venture._*
synonyms:
*grift*
There. Simple.
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