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This guy gives a presentation in the same tone someone would use scalding someone or reading a guilty verdict of some horrific crime. Just an amazing presenter the way this guy probably put the fear in these kids at university.
My Notes: What does a hedge fund manager do: - Protect clients capital - Make money in both up and down markets Hedge = Diverse long/ short portfolio Balanced Risk managed Large differences between investment banks and hedge funds: Where the money comes from; risk management; amount of money managers can make 50-100 million to start a hedge fund; goal of reaching 1 billion
+ People don't stand a chance against programmed algorithms so it's hard to become a succesful trader. - U need to beat Programmed algorithyms by learning programming or look 1-3 months ahead , which computers can not do. -
And that's why Anton and others are out and trading their own money and as an off shoot running a quite legitimate enterprise educating others how to trade and bringing them up to speed on an industry which since the end of the 90's has changed considerably along with the retail commissioned run brokerage business. Well done Anton, Michel.
So pretty much you're a follower not a leader? What Anton says it is true, and he is good. But if you want to pursue something go for it. You may just end up being the best at it and make millions.
@@iggyp1971 before you're going to pursue something, it's good to know, what it is, that you're pursuing beforehand. Isn't it right? It's just wrong to say, that somebody, that informs himself about a careerpath beforehand, is "a follower".
@@iggyp1971 But he was pursuing because he thought it was something it wasn't, now he's been given that information, he's making the independent decision to not follow that path based on the information, not the person telling him.
@@iggyp1971 why are you talking as if you’re somehow a leader? You do realise that for there to be leaders there has to be followers and those who generally have the belief that they themselves are leaders probably just have an enormous ego and no skills to offer
When he was in charge on that million dollar traders show he reminded me of Toto Wolf the Mercedes f1 team principle. Now his hairs slicked back he looks like the dude off sons of anarchy.
Anton Kreil : "taking a year to write a book would cost me an opportunity cost fortune and its a lot more complicated than just spouting about your days at an investment bank. legal issues talking about it obviously. ALso low quality to do so. If i was to write a book it would be an awesome investment / trading book that lasts 100 years." - from his facebook.
Nassir Abdallah I like this guy. I’ve recently stumbled upon him. However, if anyone can answer this for me, why? Why does he want to teach this to others? Is it for the sign up fee? Is it to bring along select individuals onto his organization to help expand?
ManPursueExcellence he has answered this questions many times. But to make sure it is the same answer check the scheme of the institue. ( You can find it on the website or in his linkedin)..cheers
He didn’t even get into soft/hard hurdle rates and high water marks. Those alone also reduce the performance returns HF managers are bringing in. But let’s be honest, they’re all still raking in millions even if half is within the fund itself.
1:16 "If you invest in an investment bank's stock you're giving them money". I don't really get that part. Aren't you giving money to the current shareholders? I don't see how that money gets on to the books of the company?
@@cadensoh Yes, I realise that an IPO would raise money. But when was the last IPO of an investment bank? For example, Goldman Sachs hasn't been 'given money' by people buying shares since 1999.
So since the big players of the game r hedge fund pro traders nd investment bank pro traders how can one predict the real movement where money is situated
$25000 a month ain’t chump change. I’m certainly not going to feel bad for them. I’m in sales this is approximately what my mentor makes, if I’m lucky I’ll be busting my as twice as hard and be making a bit more when he retires. Margins are dwindling and the only way to make it is volume.
You surely can but you gotta have nerves of steel and don't mind getting stopped out lots of times. I tried it and was about to go absolutely mental. There is just too much noise in the markets at the intraday level. That's why I prefer the daily/weekly chart over intraday trading. It's working way better and generates consistent profits for me.
Agreed with Rittifant. My latest thinking on this is that your best bet is to do very long horizon (I would even say years) trades on leveraged ETFs holding stable underlying assets with good fundamentals over the next few years. There are some leveraged ETFs with sharpe ratios around 1.5 and 3-5y annual returns around 30-50%. And you're investing in mostly the bedrocks of the entire economy.
The new industry standard for hedge funds is really actually 1 percent now?? Retail financial advisors that don't even actually manage portfolios themselves or are very basic charge 1 percent. S&t really is dead unfortunately, if he's right about the pay, Almost makes me think you may as well just get a job in retail finance and make that same amount or more with way easier work and lifestyle and put up with the boringness of the job. Shoulda been born earlier...
The thing about the investment banks and the computers trading agents them self. All that happens is more trades take place and what dose that mean? More fees usually to some investment bank.
Get a real job and trade on your own account. Less stress, better money (even accounting for the initial market “tax”) and a hell of a lot more fun. I’ve met too many professional finance guys in my life to ever want to be around 90% of them for 60-80 hrs/week.
Insightful video. I just want to know best how people split their pay, how much of it goes into savings, spendings or investments. I'm 27, and earn nothing less $150k per year, but nothing to show for it yet.
Anton’s view is unfairly bleak on the role of humans in day-trading. Just take 20 minutes to watch an equity such as TSLA on a 1 minute chart to see the roller-coaster volatility that Anton implies is being smoothed by algorithmic trading. My observation is that algorithms are amplifying the swings, not smoothing them.
TheComposer1979 he’s saying that the only thing you do at these particular financial institutions is trade money. That’s something you can do with your own money, and on your own terms. The challenge is building up enough money to invest and learning how to invest. However, once that’s finished you have a whole lifetime to strengthen your strategies. So overall, it’s better to learn how to invest yourself then work for a big name company that’s pressuring you to do the exact same thing.
If your primary aspiration in life is to make money, you've already failed. Money will not make you happy, and the pursuit of it will not only make you miserable, but will shorten what precious life you have considerably. Do what makes you happy. If you think that this is it, you're lying to yourself.
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This guy gives a presentation in the same tone someone would use scalding someone or reading a guilty verdict of some horrific crime. Just an amazing presenter the way this guy probably put the fear in these kids at university.
It's because he's from Liverpool
lol...
Scousers tell it straight
He kind of should. It's a lot of money you have to deal with, peoples lives, you can't fuck around.
This guy is extremely knowledgeable, much better advice than these silly "entrepreneurs" you see nowadays hocking shit on RUclips.
He worked for goldman you have to be Smart as fuck to work there.
@@cryptoshifu767he worked for jp morgan he have worked for some banks
He’s the villain in a movie that hasn’t come out yet
Anton looks like he hasn't slept since his 16th birthday.
Dark circles under eyes could be a sign of a kidney or thyroid disease. He drinks a lot. My guess is "kidney".
@@KOIstories It's from staring at a monitor for for hours everyday
People also forget that it could be genetics
@@KOIstories I doubt it. The Rinsers are on the couch. What he’s doing takes motivation beyond greed.
This guy retired in his late 20s. He probably enjoys the night life a lot, he already made it in life.
My Notes:
What does a hedge fund manager do:
- Protect clients capital
- Make money in both up and down markets
Hedge =
Diverse long/ short portfolio
Balanced
Risk managed
Large differences between investment banks and hedge funds: Where the money comes from; risk management; amount of money managers can make
50-100 million to start a hedge fund; goal of reaching 1 billion
+ People don't stand a chance against programmed algorithms so it's hard to become a succesful trader.
- U need to beat Programmed algorithyms by learning programming or look 1-3 months ahead , which computers can not do.
-
🙃
Whole damn uni on suicide watch now
😆👌🏻
LMFAO
lol...………...
Ha ha ha , true, probably s o m e were.
And I thought hedge fund managers threw darts at a dart board
Absolute amazing even in today time so much to learn watching all he's content
Absolutely love Anton's style, i cannot help it but believe him! All your videos and presentations are priceless. Thank you.
What a Legend! No frills honesty, warts and all, which what quite a few need these days. A harsh dose of reality!
One thing to like about Anton Kriel is his level of objectivity which is just incredible.
"So that's where you add value as a human."
Damn
Robert De Niro did not die in Heat. He just ran away to central london and did plastic surgery and became an investment Banker.
You can make 100% on the insurance and make 60 cents on the dollar buying them back from me.
And that's why Anton and others are out and trading their own money and as an off shoot running a quite legitimate enterprise educating others how to trade and bringing them up to speed on an industry which since the end of the 90's has changed considerably along with the retail commissioned run brokerage business. Well done Anton, Michel.
This guy deserves a noble price for putting dumb people like me in their place. I wanted to intern at an investment bank until I heard Antón speak
So pretty much you're a follower not a leader? What Anton says it is true, and he is good. But if you want to pursue something go for it. You may just end up being the best at it and make millions.
Same here
@@iggyp1971 before you're going to pursue something, it's good to know, what it is, that you're pursuing beforehand. Isn't it right?
It's just wrong to say, that somebody, that informs himself about a careerpath beforehand, is "a follower".
@@iggyp1971 But he was pursuing because he thought it was something it wasn't, now he's been given that information, he's making the independent decision to not follow that path based on the information, not the person telling him.
@@iggyp1971 why are you talking as if you’re somehow a leader? You do realise that for there to be leaders there has to be followers and those who generally have the belief that they themselves are leaders probably just have an enormous ego and no skills to offer
Brilliant presentation.. sharp to the point and no bs
Not only is he telling us how to setup a fund, but also how to do it fully "tax-efficient" :D
Really like how this guy presents. Could listen to him all day and I have no prior interest in stocks/shares/hedge funds.
Good advice. We need to learn how to trade with our own money and that is what professional traders do.
When he was in charge on that million dollar traders show he reminded me of Toto Wolf the Mercedes f1 team principle. Now his hairs slicked back he looks like the dude off sons of anarchy.
I love anton teaching style
Loki of Trading
gordon ramsay of trading
He does look like Loki
That’s who it was! I was like “who does this guy remind me of??”
this guy needs to sleep
Good one ! Haha
money never sleeps.
P4P KING good one!!!
@yabadoo ur right
Maybe he has insomnia?
Arrogance and brutal honesty can easily be confused. What you see here is the latter.
Holy shit This guy Anton is the Real Deal
Best in the business is Sir Anton!
Thank you Anton, I like your presentations and lifestyle, hope to view all your RUclips videos 👍
You hit them with a reality check.
This man is awesome !!! His insights are super.Amazing !!!
Love the attitude so inspiring
Can the Showtime's Billions producer bring in him as a guest star in one of the episode.
Does Anton have a book? If not he should write one.
Anton Kreil : "taking a year to write a book would cost me an opportunity cost fortune and its a lot more complicated than just spouting about your days at an investment bank. legal issues talking about it obviously. ALso low quality to do so. If i was to write a book it would be an awesome investment / trading book that lasts 100 years." - from his facebook.
Nassir Abdallah
I like this guy. I’ve recently stumbled upon him. However, if anyone can answer this for me, why? Why does he want to teach this to others? Is it for the sign up fee? Is it to bring along select individuals onto his organization to help expand?
Perhaps he's just sure of himself!
ManPursueExcellence he has answered this questions many times. But to make sure it is the same answer check the scheme of the institue. ( You can find it on the website or in his linkedin)..cheers
@Wilhelm Otto Dusseldorf He came from humble beginnings, no silver spoon like many of the elite UK traders
Love this. Serious wisdom shared here.
Best Explanation I've heard on this topic
Thank you Anton!!!!! you're such a GOAT!!!!
Holding attention of the audience 100%
16:45 is critical
Yep!
What's specifically? - "The opportunity is to add value"
yes
one of the most undervalued financial videos on youtube
A unbiased perspective not sugar coating the industry. Most of these students surely took a different career path after this talk.
This guy is on NZT
Where’s the full lecture at ?
When you go to university but you accidentally go through the wrong door and join the army.
Agreed .The best adviser we can look upon .Thanks anton
He didn’t even get into soft/hard hurdle rates and high water marks. Those alone also reduce the performance returns HF managers are bringing in. But let’s be honest, they’re all still raking in millions even if half is within the fund itself.
Ryan you dont have a clue what you’re talking about. Please stop
Very responsible job
Great easy to understand presentation. Well presented!
Can you please do another series of million dollar trader? That was excellent.
They should it would be a huge hit
This talk was fucking brutal. Oh my God.
He’s 100% right.
Love Anton. Straight up G
Incredible lecture. Appreciate you sharing
1:16 "If you invest in an investment bank's stock you're giving them money". I don't really get that part. Aren't you giving money to the current shareholders? I don't see how that money gets on to the books of the company?
@@cadensoh Yes, I realise that an IPO would raise money. But when was the last IPO of an investment bank?
For example, Goldman Sachs hasn't been 'given money' by people buying shares since 1999.
Then how come some hedge fund managers are billionaires?
Compounded growth of re-investing their performance fee and their own money
This is worth than stupid course out there and free on RUclips, pure knowledge
If Chef Marco Pierre White became a banker
In certain places and markets, algorithms are successfully trapped by humans, no matter how fast they are.
Yeah no, there are firms in NY that spend hundreds of millions a year to reduce a ping to the NYSE by less than .1ms
@@Friendznco - What about Blackrocks supercomputer Alladin?
So since the big players of the game r hedge fund pro traders nd investment bank pro traders how can one predict the real movement where money is situated
In a currency pair
One key factor, interest rates
Does hedge fund managers exactly trade or invest? I mean like do they want to make profit in the short or long term?
Total Return Hedgefunds Trade and Invest Longd and Short
anton fantastic presentation
Great video
Who said Bela Lugosi's dead!
Now this is content.
Appreciate all of your videos. It's a great and educational material :)
Always interesting
$25000 a month ain’t chump change. I’m certainly not going to feel bad for them.
I’m in sales this is approximately what my mentor makes, if I’m lucky I’ll be busting my as twice as hard and be making a bit more when he retires.
Margins are dwindling and the only way to make it is volume.
the grind should never be your goal my friend.
$25,000 a month in Manhattan is middle class.
@@Zezimh1 Manhattan is probably the most expensive place to live in the world aswell so not that relevant for 99.99% of us.
“Protect the capital of their clients” - Someone forgot that part and shorted Nintendo, Ubisoft, CD Projekt, GameStop
A real head fund manager is not a human! It's a machine!
I don't think it's true that you can't trade succesfully on an intraday timeframe
You surely can but you gotta have nerves of steel and don't mind getting stopped out lots of times. I tried it and was about to go absolutely mental. There is just too much noise in the markets at the intraday level. That's why I prefer the daily/weekly chart over intraday trading. It's working way better and generates consistent profits for me.
Agreed with Rittifant. My latest thinking on this is that your best bet is to do very long horizon (I would even say years) trades on leveraged ETFs holding stable underlying assets with good fundamentals over the next few years. There are some leveraged ETFs with sharpe ratios around 1.5 and 3-5y annual returns around 30-50%. And you're investing in mostly the bedrocks of the entire economy.
nbfdmd Leveraged ETF are not good long term holdings. Search time decay.
@@drewmandan Please don't invest in a leveraged ETF long term. Please 🙏
The new industry standard for hedge funds is really actually 1 percent now?? Retail financial advisors that don't even actually manage portfolios themselves or are very basic charge 1 percent. S&t really is dead unfortunately, if he's right about the pay, Almost makes me think you may as well just get a job in retail finance and make that same amount or more with way easier work and lifestyle and put up with the boringness of the job. Shoulda been born earlier...
...that’s just the management fee. Did you hear the part where the hedge funds want to go to 1b at least?
1 year old comment bro. No point in explaining.
The thing about the investment banks and the computers trading agents them self.
All that happens is more trades take place and what dose that mean? More fees usually to some investment bank.
This guy seems to have it out for the financial world
Anton needs to tell the attendees they will not make a living trading their own funds, even if they are net positive every year.
Uh no, the only time a company reaps cash from the public is through an IPO. Thereafter, it is just shareholder trading among themselves.
why it sounds like a sermon and I did something wrong to him
If you want to become professional trader you need to trade your own money
Special situations cant be done by quants
kopi bin True. Nor can private equity as the data isn’t readily available.
So thats where you add value as a human
This guy is the 'Marco Pierre White' of trading.
Where’s his slide on Reddit?
Legendary!
Dudes a level 8 boss.
Thank you. I learned from you in this video. Very great and helpful, would great to follow you on social media Sir. Subscribed
"Because all they do is stick things in a machine."
So....did I picked the right career, cs engineering?
Loki?
Get a real job and trade on your own account. Less stress, better money (even accounting for the initial market “tax”) and a hell of a lot more fun. I’ve met too many professional finance guys in my life to ever want to be around 90% of them for 60-80 hrs/week.
enough slides... yell at some people ffs
Insightful video. I just want to know best how people split their pay, how much of it goes into savings, spendings or investments. I'm 27, and earn nothing less $150k per year, but nothing to show for it yet.
I'm sure that was a hard pill to swallow
Anton’s view is unfairly bleak on the role of humans in day-trading. Just take 20 minutes to watch an equity such as TSLA on a 1 minute chart to see the roller-coaster volatility that Anton implies is being smoothed by algorithmic trading. My observation is that algorithms are amplifying the swings, not smoothing them.
i understand nothing
TheComposer1979 he’s saying that the only thing you do at these particular financial institutions is trade money. That’s something you can do with your own money, and on your own terms. The challenge is building up enough money to invest and learning how to invest. However, once that’s finished you have a whole lifetime to strengthen your strategies. So overall, it’s better to learn how to invest yourself then work for a big name company that’s pressuring you to do the exact same thing.
TheComposer 1979 : Non need to understand.
Need
How does one join the Institute of Trading ?
Give Anton many pennies
3 people in the audience committed suicide after this presentation
If your primary aspiration in life is to make money, you've already failed. Money will not make you happy, and the pursuit of it will not only make you miserable, but will shorten what precious life you have considerably. Do what makes you happy. If you think that this is it, you're lying to yourself.
10:20, 13:30
This guy likes destroying dreams
News are noise 😀
Absolute Legend.
Hero 💗💗🥰😘
he is stunning!
Gay