Anton Kreil - Is It Even Possible for Retail Traders to Make Money Trading?
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When I used the light theme on my platform I was losing money. I started making money only when I changed my trading strategy and switched to the dark theme. The brokers will never tell you this.
Another strategy that works is when your stocks are down you can just flip your screen upside down
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@@bullishongamestop 🤣👍
@@bullishongamestop I'm dead.. 😅😅😅
Lol
Guy looks like a bond villain
you think so? lol he comes off as a genuinely kind guy but that's still funny.
i think he is a true hero, who opens up peoples eyes for good
He does trade in bond, doesn't he?
"For England, James?"
"No. For me"
Check out the BBC documentary he is in.
"The average retail trader loses $25-$30K before giving up". Wow, I feel lucky.
I lost more than that, and still not giving up. This is my fourth year, and my first successful!
@@yubakrarai Never ever give up keep going
@@yubakrarai what sort of stocks were you trading ?
@Deranged Seal 333 how can you lose 50k?! Looool. That’s insane you are making terrible decisions clearly.
@@yubakrarai I’m on year 7 now, and I will never give up on this game. I have gotten exponentially better every year.
In one way or another, traders will pay for their education.
Ian Hunt in what way?
Losing it.
Pay the market or pay someone
@@evantrades You'll pay the market regardless. Easy to pay someone, but you still need to build self-experience
So true
Retail traders can make money..........But, it comes with experience and experience takes time. Most retail traders get in, blow their accounts, get discouraged and leave. People who make money are those who get in, blow their account and then try to learn from their mistakes. There is no substitute for experience and most ppl dont last the yrs it needs to build up that experience.
Sir are you making money ?
Yep. Every trader has blown their account because they "knew" they were doing good. Hopefully you only blew a 500$ account and not a 50k$ account, though.
@@piyushdas5151 i lost. Now i will
this sounds nice but it makes ZERO sense. If you understood what makes a trader you would speak about that not about a vague notion 'experience' you didnt even address survivor bias...
piyush das Im pretty sure they are people who can make money, just common sense.
The dark bags under his eyes tells you he knows how to trade
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Don't know about trading but party? I can see he loves to party 😂
Drinks later at the pub 😂
No, it only proves that he's tired, nothing more, lol.
@@MrUpadhyayn58 Lol you aren't a trader and you just saw this on your recommended
I read, I studied, I made mistakes. Now I'm making money,
How to become a successful retail trader:
Step 1 - Be Goldman Sachs
I was going to suggest to just buy shares of Goldman Sachs.
However...
Over the last ten years, Goldman Sachs shares has had a total return of 223%.
During the same time, the S&P500 has had a total return of 288%.
Thats because most retail traders think its a lottery and refuse to learn. They refuse to do dd on companies. They refuse to watch the stocks....they also expect to get rich quick.
I didn't expect this road to success from malfoy - dude has awesome charisma
Note: he’s speaking about traders not investors
Yep. 99% of fools here don't know the difference between the two.
Who is stupid enough not to know the difference?
Supernova Investors 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Investing makes slow money
bitTorrenter ummm yeah I guess with timing, traders must get good at understanding the average investors psychology that helps them achieve higher than average returns and getting more wins than losses
Great video thanks for the upload. I only found this channel a couple of weeks ago, and have enjoyed listening to Anton's advice.
I just start $10 bucks lost... then another $10... then another and another till i get $70... my broker called me to know how im going, then lost... then another $10... now i have $50 and i feel i have more control of my self, this little bucks just live another day, every day, because i've learned to respect that money and the time i put to getting that money, no because i know more or less technicals. i just want to say how important it's to start small any bussiness.
simple answer is yes, but only with the right training and loads of self control and risk aversion! learning entries is easy, what people have problems with is to much FOMO and HOPIUM!
"FOMO" "HOPIUM"
lmao are you talking about bitcoin
Risk aversion lol
Psychology
It' not whether a retail rader CAN make money, it whether they can KEEP it.
that my friend is called
consistency.
He looks like he has seen things.
He has
@@okk2776 he's seen things from the million dollar traders series😂
@@nap.of.the.earth... INDEED
@@nap.of.the.earth... He is in the show
He’s worked on Wall Street - one can only imagine lol
My understanding is that he’s saying you need to learn from the experts before you trade
This guy is straight to the biz, love it
The biggest reason retail traders lose money is because they do not balance their risk for long term performance and instead make short sighted high risk plays.
Thank u. I lost about 1k usd after changing many styles i figured out for my own, sometimes i always won in a month in a row, my method was pretty good but most of time just 1 big mistake or big market move took a big hit. U gave me new way and ideas. Thank u very much, i am trying again under 1k usd, hope one day can join the program or some tickets to your online seminar!
Successful trading involves playing defense first and playing offence second. Every time a trader enters the market he has to be willing to manage adverse excursions aggressively. using a simple stop loss will not cut it.
Nice. About the only sensible comment about investing here. The rest of commentators have it all figured out - bullish 100% of the time.
Can you expand on that? Keeping short stops is one way. Another would be to buy puts or calls? Please tell..
People also are incredibly short sighted with their holds. They set a stop loss too short, even though the weekly trends show an increase over the course of 3-6 months. Its ok to be down 5 to 6 percent for a short while if you see the larger trend moving.
Problem is these retail brokers flash big red numbers at you as soon as you drop below 0. This scares people into selling otherwise solid long term stocks that sometimes triple in price over 3 months.
The issue with technicals and stop losses, You start seeing the business very narrowly and as a game of numbers similar to lottery. Not as a trading business which requires a big picture view that grants you the ability to Sleep at night.
The 10K form seems to be not only a Goldman thing, also a world economic pulse.
7:34 imagine coughing in a room full of people in 2020)
That was me
Everyone gets into a frenzy
Whats 2020? 🧐🤨🤓
no different than 19
It's easy to make money if you can change the rules always in your favour. That's the secret of their success, nothing else.
LOL. So true.
true
What does that even mean?
I mean just look at naked shorting as an example. Billions of synthetics, never have to cover, FTDs forever. DTCC is a joke
@@zytolen5356 it means goldman sachs (and other banks) can get away with cheating in order to win when they know there is a good chance they will lose
idk why but, the way the professor talks is so satisfying like he knows something
Whats the point of comparing retail traders with Goldman Sachs?
Because they're the one who make money while the vast majority of retail traders loose money and most of the ones who don't loose make so little they could just kept a normal job instead
One hack I made to always go UP and they don’t want you to know:
Turn my screen 90 degrees counter clockwise.
What do you do once you hit the maximum (zero)?
I think the success of trading comes down to three things. Good at statistics, good at understanding phycology to find edges and good with your own emotions.
any tips on how to learn more about phycology?
@@sobriquet5016 learn from an accredited phycologist
Damn really? I didn’t know studying algae was necessary for trading markets
@@Steves_fish lmaooo ☠️☠️☠️
OP made a mistake and said ‘phycology’ instead of ‘psychology’.
Phycology is the study of algae, which has absolutely 0 importance in trading. It was just a typo
Hahahaha 🤣🤣
Acronyms were a great finisher 😂😂😂😂😂
don’t trade on a random time, select your time frame and the time you can focus, the market opens 24/7 doesn’t mean you have to be there 24/7 select your time range, it will be worth it!
Thank you for this video!
Is there a video where he actually goes over how to emulate them. I mean yea its a great idea but its not like they do a press release every day saying this is what we are thinking.
It basically means trading the same strategies etc. and mimicking what the elite performers do.
That's what his mentoring program is all about.
@@andreasmelkersson3592 yes, but what exactly are the elites doing in real time?
Hey look at that, someone using their brain.
@@jackhudkins542 insider trades if you want to add one, or what they'll call "following the smart money" that's the only way to beat that system, but you won't beat it every single trading session. Or like the videos says "you let the portfolio work" you have to know what to get into, and not just go all out in 2 stocks.
Sharing is caring ❤️
I make money. Not a load, but i dont have massive funds to start with. 😉👌 Play the long game.
he is talking about traders not investors. Hold stocks for years doesnt make you a trader it makes you an investor. Two completely different things.
@@alejandrosanchez2085 thanks for the definition.
alejandro sanchez Perhaps he meant the long game, as in “long” a stock = to buy?
@@alejandrosanchez2085 when did he say he is an investor? All he said was he has a small portfolio capital to trade with🙄
@@chorrellpique4057 no I think he meant growing slowly learning with each trade bcz with a small account he can take big volume trades
Great show thank you
I'll see you at the pub, what a genuine guy!
i just checked out the form 10k presented by Goldman, but I see consolidated financial statements, i couldn´t find those histograms he showed in that form... is there other information source? tks
They took the chart out it’s its now just a table in the MDA section under metrics.
I did nothing but paper trade and educate for three grueling years and still got off to a shaky start, then i fell into stoicism and away i went.
this guy should have a podcast.
His voice is eattractive
Great content
I found the solution. I made a time machine to go into the future. Then, after seeing the future price, I come back and place my trades.
is it because they call the markets correctly, or that they are taking the other side of the dumb money?
I think the biggest difference between gamblers and traders is that gamblers dont have a stop loss..
That's comical. Tell me, what happens if you lose 20% of your portfolio three times in a row?What percent of your portfolio do you have left? 99% of wannabe day traders can't do simple math but think can rule the markets. Its very easy to have such a scenario.
You can replace 20% with 10% if you want. Over time, if you don't know what the fuck you're doing you're going to lose your ass off.
Stop losses are to prevent large margin day traders from blowing accounts. The best traders don't put themselves into positions where theh will lose money to begin with.
The problem is that poorer people want the money fast. If you are conscious of the larger trend, these stop losses can hurt you, because a temporary dip in price is irrelevant if you plan a winning strategy over the course of several months.
These winning firms stick their money into long term winning assets. Temporary losses mean nothing if they know a stock will grow 30 percent over 12 weeks. They let it sit because if it's not broken dont fix it.
Actually bad traders use stop loss, good traders know how to size to begin with, if you're using a stop loss every time it means you're sizing way too much. Good traders know how to size, how to scale in and out, how much to risk on high and low volatility markets, trade very small for potential home runs, bad traders over leverage themselves with a tight stop loss and wonder why they get stopped often.
I’ve hardly ever used a stop-loss and made profits. The times I did try it (purely out of curiosity), I lost money...
really how many times has a trade hit your sl then just like that the trade goes your way
I love how he smiles to himself
I'm about to start trading commodities again. I did well in the past, but lost my gains through u disciplined trading. The worst thing that can happen to a new trader is to get lucky with sloppy trading.
That last statement is facts… coming into trading in a hot market
Anton, good afternoon. Thanks for your videos. Please I have seen so many RUclips reviews on forex prop firms. Please from an expert professional perspective please can you advise me or recommend any reputable forex prop firm (in USA or UK that accepts remote traders). Thanks for your feedback.
DCA an S&P500 index etf with low fees. Done
This is the video that did it for me, 10% average loss rate. FML. I need to get in on this.
First step is admitting it. You're on your way to success.
Marathon not a sprint, one day you’ll be an elite trader
The difference between you and them is independent fundamental analysis
how is it going lately Bryan?
it took me 2 year to understand that after serious of losses
Emulate the most successful ones: Get a team of people with PhDs in math and physics like Jim Simmons and a few supercomputers - easy!
Market volatility is tend to be driven by mass psycology, not math equation.
@@denpono9763 look up jim simons. There are probably a few more who played the market through math. Just pointing out that your statement isn’t accurate.
Simmons is old stuff nowadays
I lost over -60k, now I’m back to only -30k with a barely green year 2021. I’m hoping I can break even 2022
I lost about the same amount. Haven't made it back yet tho, lol. One day! Good luck and keep it up 👍
Hei. .did u break even
I m in the same fucking path
Best wishes to u....sheesh....
i think ive found a retail trader 🤣🤣
I agree with everything this guy says except his view on shorter term trading, ive seen live PA play out on shorter time frames consecutively, why does it work? Algos and the big players run on any time frame, find out how they work and play on their side.
Anton Kreil, what strategy can you recommend to a beginner who wants to succeed in forex industry?
This is great insight
The answer is obviously yes. However, with what we know now about payment for order flow, the market is genuinely rigged against them.
Nobody forces you to take a broker that uses payment for order flow.
@@samuel.andermatt advanced market depth bid/ask info isn’t free. The depth of market we have in Metatrader or other trading platforms is just a joke for kindergarder children. A good DOM platform I think is esignal, even though I’m not sure. Even if it is what I think it costs from around 100 per month or even more
If you do your DD and are making a sound investment based on the available info with a long-term plan for exiting the position according to your own goals (price targets from institutions like Goldman Sachs can inform this), then it doesn't how much the order flow data gets exploited on a short-term basis to punish the shaky hands of retail day traders.
A sound investment thesis will get supported by major institutions because they want to benefit from its soundness just like you do. An unsound investment thesis will get exploited because it's unsound and driven by greed, ignorance or outright stupidity.
@@zeharr you’re talking about investments. This video is talking about trading. The two are not the same.
3:08
You make money in bull and bear market. You can make money with put or call option. You can make money from energy or automobile industry. Just depends what's going on.
does anyone have the full video link to this please?
I buy Index funds and hold forever…
Solid video 💪🏻
Obviously, Goldman doesn't have a stop loss. They just set a profit target and wait for it to hit.
They dont have take profit. They just let it run because enough is never enough for them.
Of course they use a stop loss, Goldman, like all other trading firms, have very advanced risk models that with strategic stop losses.
@@user-ri4qk1xy3c Their stop loses aren't the same as retail traders you clown, so it's irrelevant to the retail trader. They can absorb much bigger loses and market volatility than the average trader. Wake up.
@@user-ri4qk1xy3c clown
@@fmar.8311 No one implied they are the same. Learn to read before calling others a clown.
Darco Malfoy’s well to do older brother.
up 396% YTD. proper information and extensive thinking. i don’t lose
But how do you know how they work for you to follow their approach?
I spent almost 2 years and lost around 10k before I actually was able to start being profitable. I also did not seek out any paid education. I thought the free route from books and the web would be the best. So with that said, I would strongly suggest some sort of courses/classes/education before tackling trading.
How often were you trading during those two years?
It would mean so, so much to me if you could briefly (in a couple sentences) list the most important things to becoming profitable. All the best & congratulations on working through it!
Seneca yamma number 1 is to accept a loss and don't extend your stop loss. Take the hit. You will have bad days where you lose your stop loss amount (500).. about half of days! It's hard to accept this. But remember ..on the good days you let it run to your profit amount..(1400) .. So over time you win.
If you extend your stop...you will lose trust meeeeeeee
For anyone who is serious about trading they need either (or both) a degree in accounting/finance or math/statistics. Both types of degrees will help but lead to different strategies. You can learn much of what you need on your own but it will be a long journey and I definitely don't recommend trading with hard cash until a good educational foundation is in place.
@@MrSupernova111 so not true im a student in finance and control on the university. Its also a hard time for me
The end of the video was so epic, idk why i dont see more comments about it haha
You are amazing. Thanks from the bottom of my heart friend.
Great stuff Anton.
straight to the point no bullshiting
Professional traders that work for Goldman and other similar firms do not trade like retail traders.
Well, they are not trading on their own. They have quants, risk managers, and most of the time they are making markets for their clients. Let's not forget that those banks have huge trading losses from time to time too.
Yes
I think it is possible to make money as individual trader :) also im not agree with COPY traders...
Thanks
1:38 Thumb ring wearing goofball
😂😂😂😂
I dont understand how people blow up their accounts. Just practice simple risk management
I saw this video almost 3 years ago and today I can understand every word this man said. -retail trader with a 100k account
ok
Started with a million dollar account after selling some real estate. Probably not a good thing but the lessons over last six months have been invaluable, and at least can avoid margin.
@@laowai2000 are you gambling your entire net worth?
wtf are u doin 🤣🤣@@laowai2000
But is it by the time you know about Goldman trades it becomes too late. 10 k is filled every 3 months. What if Goldman buys stocks in January and you see the 10 k in April. Isn’t it too late, has not the price already too high if Goldman buys it
A 10-K is filed annually.
What does COI in the chart? Conflict of Interest or what?
Retail traders can make money on a PM account and selling premium... other than that it's really hard
What is a PM account?
He knows his stuff
1:02
When he said "form 10k" I thought he meant gather 10 thousand dollars.
Nice video
Don't worry about it.
Swing trade and trade many asset classes.
Years of live sweating beating head practice & Experience 👍only way to become professional retailer 😊
The answer is don’t day trade... just buy 3-5 good stocks and don’t look at the price on a daily level. Use the energy instead to improve yourself and make money efficiently with your time... and enjoy life.
You are ignorant like most people who believe in the fearmongering of trading stocks. Sounds like you've been snake-bitten, there are elite traders who regularly outperform the S&P 500.
@@andreasmelkersson3592 Sure, but at what cost to their time?
Warren Buffett analogy Value investing
Totally agree. It’s a myth that traders make more money than investors.
@@johnfurr5698 That argument can be made for anything that requires you to do so to become an expert at it.
University of Westminster?
Where is the full video?
Yes it is possible. But with each trade, you should do high speed trading and go ALL IN + FULL MARGIN 😎👍
sarcasm?
Do you happen to be a Korean hedge fund manager?
this dude is like the marco pierre white of finance
They can. Vast majority won't though, don't have the discipline/habits/intelligence.
I think that 10k report just single handedly changed my view on trading :o
Very few women, nobody stops the women from coming to this show, don't blame men and patriarchy
you do whatever the fuck you want, don't be tied to religion and politics, be tied to what you want to do with your life or maybe you want to die with regrets. I don't want to live in a society where the group has to pay for one's mistake nor in one where we sacrifice one for the sake of the group. Tribes have got us very far, but that's history now. We adapt.
Women tend to go for jobs that involve people
but in the other video he said all the good traders have left to hedge funds :O
BLUEGENE13 I felt like that statement was meant as like a half joke cause he came from Goldman. Not really a joke though since he actually is a good trader haha
what do they do?
they hire a team of quants that earn 500.000$ a year, have experts of every industrie, etc. Do the same: hire a team of quants, experts, etc...
I feel a lot better about my massive gains right about now!
Nice try educator
You have to trade like the institutions 🗝
And how do they trade? Do you have any idea where is a good source to research?
what was the chart that you looked at earlier???
The ending is fucking hilarious.