How could you use the thumbnail of Steve Perry whose story is much more to it than just crawling back plus he didn't leave, the band actually let him go for a second time after an accident that required a hip surgery.. Well that's for what most fans know about that He shouldn't have been part of this list at all 🙏 trust me
There was no accident --- he was suffering from "avascular necrosis" which is the same progressive disease that Bo Jackson and Eddie Van Halen suffered from
Neal then later replaced Steve with Arnel Pineda. Arnel is a really good singer with a tenor voice, but he's no Steve Perry. Then they were surprised when Steve wouldn't join Journey on stage for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame concert when the band was enshrined. No wonder he wouldn't, he still had hard feelings.
John Frusciante’s return was very understandable. He was very overwhelmed my the whole experience of achieving mainstream. It’s amazing and miraculous that he survived that very bleak period.
I've been playing in rock bands all of my life and what Fruciante did in SNL was inexcuseable Boo hoo, show millions of people how sad you are by stabbing you band mates in the back. Childish. The most over rated guitarist in rock.
"Only To Come Crawling Back" There is a whole lot more to the Steve Perry story than what is presented here. Among other things, smacking into the wall of burn out at 200 mph, been there, done that. A very unfair criticism Grunge, you should apologize, unless you've fronted a chart topping band, which you haven't. Thumbs down Grunge.
Cheers brother on your comments regarding Steve Perry. The poor guy also fell from a cliff while on vacation I think,and had one hell of an injury,on top of that his mother passed around the same time. Journey in my mind wasn't much until Steve joined and turned them into the originators of the "Power Ballad"and stadium supergroup they became.👍
When a band forms it is usually because of the chemistry brought on by the members talents working in sync. I think it is extremely rare when a lead singer leaves that a band will be the same
I desperately wanted to see a Steve Perry-Journey reunion tour in 1997 and it was so damn close but never happened --- broke my heart they never gave the fans that reward
Steve Perry gave his blessing for Journey to hire another singer, but he said "Do whatever you want, just don't call it Journey." That's a really important point you missed...or omitted intentionally.
The only problem with Steve's request is that Journey was never his band. Neal with his manager Herbie Herbert put it together. As you probably know there were three LP's pre Steve & even another singer before him - who did not record with the band. So no matter how much he was vested as a member of the band at that time he could not enforce that request.
@@tommitchell4570Emotionally yes. Legally? No. & Neal has/had every right to do what he wanted. By the time it was said & done with Steve 3/4 of the original Journey was gone anyway.
@@tommccarthy3052 I just wish Journey and Van Halen did the same thing when the original singer left --- rename the band and create a whole new identity
@@tommitchell4570 Hard to do - unfortunately - with the legal stuff involved. And that stuff has been around forever. I remember Queensryche had a big spat after their original singer left & for a year he & the band were both using the name. Jon Anderson - Yes - had the healthiest attitude about it (iny opinion) where he didn't care that the band he founded was touring without him - & playing the songs. He said it was everybody's legacy & the fans can go see who they want. Always interesting tho' when the songs/legacy continue after the principals are gone. It worked with Deep Purple & Black Sabbath, & certainly Fleetwood Mac, but for some bands "that sound" is so locked in around a particular group of musicians you can't get around it.
Peter Criss did not come crawling back to KISS. He was ASKED back by Gene and Paul for the reunion tour because they knew they'd make a fortune. G&P made 80 million each. They gave Ace and Peter 1 million each.
THIS. Peter and Ace aren't the materialistic, money grubbers that Paul and especially Gene was. They also trashed Vinnie Vincent and had Eric Carr not passed away they probably would've ran him off as well.
@@Lakotashunkaha Wasnt aware of that...but I wouldn't put it past Paul to virtue signal and play the good guy just because Eric was sick and dying. Makes sense. Another thing I remember...Eric's wife or GF didnt like either Gene nor Paul...and one of them admitted as such. These guys dont seem to get along with anybody. It was funny AF when Peter and Ace both mentioned Gene nor Paul have any friends and the only reason why they tour is not only the money but outside of Kiss? They dont really have a life. Kind of pathetic when you think about it.
Allan Clarke of The Hollies did the same, he left the band in 1971, wanting to pursue a solo career, but after the success of the song Long Cool Woman (which he co-wrote), and with the other Hollie bandmates wanting Allan to come back (as their replacement singer was incapable of singing the song), Allan eventually came back in 1973/74, up until 1999 when he retired.
I heard that the only reason Ace and Peter were invited back was because the promoters were only going to have the tour and pay the money if it was the original KISS.
@@dhenderson1810 I believe that's true --- there was a shitload of cash being offered and the promoters knew an original lineup was the only one that would make money
Frusciante has the most human reasoning for both. He’s a perfect example of the mental toll of fame and touring. In the 90s it almost killed him, and the 2000s was mental exhaustion. Easily one of the most down-to-earth musicians for that alone
Bill had changed his style of drumming in Mickeys absence. He had spent 4 years holding down the rhythm and didn't want to give it up. He says that in his book too.
Surprised you left out Ozzy & Black Sabbath. He was gone before they started recording "Never Say Die" in '78, only to return after they had replaced him.
@@shanewhelan5067 He was gone long enough for them to find another singer and record all the songs with different lyrics. No, he didn't come crawling back, but neither did half the musicians in the video.
@@gator2813 The band thrived with Sammy Hagar. After Sammy left they failed with Gary Cherone and only then did the ask him to return. And basically from the time he left until the time he returned David was banging on the door to be let back in. And he's very bitter that the band was as successful as it was without him. So maybe technically you're right but practically he was desperate to get back in. He basically fell off the planet once he left Van Halen.
@@hollysdad49 DLR didn't fall off the planet when he left VH. He wasn't as successful without them as he was with them but he still sold a few albums and a few concert tickets. I wouldn't complain too much about the money he made as a solo artist if it was in my bank account. I guess you forgot about DLR rejoining VH just long enough to put out a greatest hits album before they hired Cherone. DLR might have wanted back in the band but it was EVH that had to swallow his pride and ask him to rejoin the band.
@@tysonwilliams4467 If I remember correctly it was mostly covers (California Girls, Tobacco Road, Just a Gigolo). Not much original. He got some airplay on MTV but not much radio.
When Steve Perry left in 87 it was largely because his mom got cancer he was tired but she's the big reason then later Neil Schon forced him out over hip replacement
For someone to call Rob Halford a “screamer” doesn’t know shit about music. Dude could sing like no other,not to say screaming is easy but Halford has an excellent voice
This happens so often to great bands. Lead singer thinks that he's better, fans make them feel that way, unfortunately they discover too late that they weren't so great after all without the band. Then everyone loses.😔
It's called LSD,lead singers disease,but do a little research cause Steve didn't have that,he had a lot on his plate injury,his mother's passing. This is misinformation by this channel..again.
I don't know for sure if Pat Smear leaving the Foo Fighters due to Dave Grohl's divorce is true or not. But in their Back and Forth documentary in 2011, Pat said he initially left the band since he didn't want to tour anymore since he had been at it with other bands for so many years already.
@@gator2813 But in that context it implies a six string player when he is one of the most legendary bassists of all time, he deserves the proper title haha
Rob Halford wanted to live his authentic life after decades of being in the closet. He was more concerned about the band, so he sacrificed his best years. He didn't come crawling back. He still thought he would be a detriment and poured out his pain and conflicting emotions in that letter. He's a fking hero!
Like Freddy Mercury and David Bowie? Elton John? I call bullshit on Rob's part. He was chickenshit of himself and most likely ashamed. That's all on him. No hero status for admitting you're gay or keeping it concealed. Rock fans don't give a shit. That has been proven more times that you could shake a stick at.
Wait how do you tell the Journey story and leave out where he re-arranged the band with Randy Jackson thus setting up long term resentment to the original members?
John Taylor left Duran Duran to pursue a solo career. He said he had enough of the ups and downs the band was having. He said he would never return to it. Then it came time for the reunion. He said he would only get involved if Roger and Andy Taylor got involved, showing that it was the band's glory days he missed. And since then, he has been back with the band. He obviously found that it was probably in his best interest, since his solo career didn't do so well.
am I the only one who saw Rob Halford leaving Priest as a positive? Ripper was great. Priest still sounded like Priest and it was still cool to listen to them. Dude could really sing. Meanwhile Halford formed Fight, and I might get some hate on this but Fight was so much better than Priest. For me, yeah I know they helped define a genre. They inspired a lot of future metal heads including myself. You'll not find a single Judas Priest album in my collection then or now though.
If you grew up with Priest from early on till Painkiller. Then listened to Fight. Well I didnt have any of THAT in my music collection.! Should have stayed where he was. Where he is now.!! Judas Priest.😊😂❤
The Clash sacked Terry Chimes after they released their first album. 8 years later after the band imploded, Joe Strummer needed him back in the band. Terry was the only one not to take drugs
I don't think Steve Perry crawled back . I also don't think Steve Perry didn't cry when Eddie and his band Van Halen decided NOT to extend their concert contract when they went to open for Journey promoting Van Halen 1 .
"Substance abuse and Mental Health" ?? That sentence shocks me. I'm a grandpa and I had drugs problems during 30 years or so, so, I was crazy ?! Strange, but why not. 🤪
If it helps, things have evolved over time. With the publication of the DSM III in 1980, there was a shift away from explicitly regarding addiction as the manifestation of an underlying psychological pathology. Prior to that in the DSM I (1952) and DSM II (1968) it was regarded in itself as a mental disorder and for that reason state hospital systems had facilities specifically for alcoholism and drug addiction. For the record I don't believe that alcoholism is a mental illness, and while people do often attempt to self-medicate for an actual mental illness with drugs not intended for that purpose, addiction, in my opinion is not a mental illness either. I mean for heaven's sake, the DSM I and the DSM II defined epilepsy as a mental illness. People were once institutionalised because they had seizure disorders. Where I am that was outlawed by various state Mental Health Acts throughout the 1970's. I think there's a problem with bureaucracies grouping multiple things together, possibly when they aren't necessarily related. I wonder why so many social programs in the U.S are administered by the Department of Agriculture when the Social Security Administration exists, for example. I guess it was just easier to pass funding through Congress that way ? Where I live it's a weird thing but the Arts portfolio is almost always bundled with another unrelated ministerial portfolio. Currently Employment and Workplace Relations (equivalent to the U.S. Secretary of Labor), but I recall it being done at other times by : -an Attorney General -a Minister for Veterans Affairs (equivalent of Administrator of the Veterans Administration in the U.S.) -and a Minister for the Environment and Water (that's probably equivalent to part of what the U.S. Secretary of the Interior does but we haven't had a Department of the Interior for over fifty years). It's just a thing governments do, is what I'm saying.
7:07: I had the displeasure of meeting Steve Perry, while a clinician at Cedars-Sinai medical center. He relentlessly spoke of how I have 'must've' heard of him. The rude narcissists presumed I must be fan given my age and waist length ponytail. The entire output of this band, in my opinion, and many of my '70s contemporaries, found it to be revulsive, saccharine drivel, given its complete lack of any expertise of musicianship. Mediocrity churning out schlock, over-worn juvenile heart breaks. 😢Ho-hum and yuck!🤮
@Jon Doe I believe your assessment is primarily a manifestation of your 'personal' projection of uncomfortable, emotional concerns. I, in contrast, was portraying a personal, appros incident, given the content referenced. Not all of life is pleasant and easy, thus a rendition of a tense, unpleasant experience is 'part of life'. Unapologetic and unamended.👋
@Jon Doe My portrayal of an atypical interaction with a 'celebrity' seemed to've ruffled your feather. While your sensibilities have been shaken a bit, too bad. In a democracy, diversity of opinion indicates maturity, sounds as though you missed that stop, on the road of life. Heaven help you.🤨👋
Corabi sucked. Period. When he left Crue, he put together a band that ripped off songs the Philly circuit made famous. And he didn't do anything except play them note for note. Steve Perry decided he was going to play boss. First thing he did was fire Steve Smith and Ross Valory. Nobody was happy about that. Then Steve developed a throat problem. They found a guy from the Phillippines, Arnel Pineda, that sounded dead on like Perry. Smith and Valory came back and nobody bothered with Perry anymore
Tom cam crawling back a second time cause he's millions in debt from To The Stars, justt got divorced and has a kid he most likely has to pat alimony for. 5 years from now he'll leave without telling them. Again.
I always wonder why tom came back I thought that it was because Mark hoppus suvaied cancer. But I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Or that he gets his manager to tell blink that he left again
Damn crawling back is a little harsh
An outright lie in some of these cases.
But honest
How could you use the thumbnail of Steve Perry whose story is much more to it than just crawling back plus he didn't leave, the band actually let him go for a second time after an accident that required a hip surgery..
Well that's for what most fans know about that
He shouldn't have been part of this list at all 🙏 trust me
There was no accident --- he was suffering from "avascular necrosis" which is the same progressive disease that Bo Jackson and Eddie Van Halen suffered from
Get over it
Neal then later replaced Steve with Arnel Pineda. Arnel is a really good singer with a tenor voice, but he's no Steve Perry. Then they were surprised when Steve wouldn't join Journey on stage for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame concert when the band was enshrined. No wonder he wouldn't, he still had hard feelings.
“Nobody wants to be Peter Criss! Not even Peter Criss!”-Peter Griffin to Lois
No one could have matched Chriss's on Beth no one
Poor Catman.
John Frusciante’s return was very understandable. He was very overwhelmed my the whole experience of achieving mainstream. It’s amazing and miraculous that he survived that very bleak period.
I've been playing in rock bands all of my life and what Fruciante did in SNL was inexcuseable Boo hoo, show millions of people how sad you are by stabbing you band mates in the back. Childish. The most over rated guitarist in rock.
Totally agree I'm glad he's still here today he is one of the greatest to ever play
Frusciante is a genius. Period. RHCP without him is just an old mediocre band.
"Only To Come Crawling Back" There is a whole lot more to the Steve Perry story than what is presented here. Among other things, smacking into the wall of burn out at 200 mph, been there, done that. A very unfair criticism Grunge, you should apologize, unless you've fronted a chart topping band, which you haven't. Thumbs down Grunge.
Is not the first time they give misinformation, very disappointing
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Cheers brother on your comments regarding Steve Perry. The poor guy also fell from a cliff while on vacation I think,and had one hell of an injury,on top of that his mother passed around the same time. Journey in my mind wasn't much until Steve joined and turned them into the originators of the "Power Ballad"and stadium supergroup they became.👍
Grunge is the Best
@@Kinseliplier No it's not.
Steve Perry didn't "come crawling back" to Journey. *They* needed *him* . Put some respect on my boy's name >:(
Correct. Jonathan Cain talked about that in his book.
Journey was totally forgotten by the mid-90's. Perry coming back made them very relevant again. I remember that time well.
When a band forms it is usually because of the chemistry brought on by the members talents working in sync. I think it is extremely rare when a lead singer leaves that a band will be the same
True. But Faith No More was pretty great with Chuck Mosley, Mike Patton took it to a whole nother level.
Fun fact. Jim Morrison left the doors when he died. That's why they called him the crawling king snake
Morrison called himself the crawling king snake.
I agree, Steve Perry doesn't deserve to get slammed the way you did.
Steve Perry the best voice of the morden era. He did great solo and saw him
Live with a pickup
Band. Steve ajuri was a franchise singer only
Steve was kind of a dickhead in that band to a certain degree --- but he's also the main reason that band ever became popular
I desperately wanted to see a Steve Perry-Journey reunion tour in 1997 and it was so damn close but never happened --- broke my heart they never gave the fans that reward
Steve Perry gave his blessing for Journey to hire another singer, but he said "Do whatever you want, just don't call it Journey." That's a really important point you missed...or omitted intentionally.
The only problem with Steve's request is that Journey was never his band.
Neal with his manager Herbie Herbert put it together. As you probably know there were three LP's pre Steve & even another singer before him - who did not record with the band.
So no matter how much he was vested as a member of the band at that time he could not enforce that request.
@@tommccarthy3052 he had a right to make his request because he was the most powerful member of Journey from 1978 to 1986
@@tommitchell4570Emotionally yes. Legally? No. & Neal has/had every right to do what he wanted. By the time it was said & done with Steve 3/4 of the original Journey was gone anyway.
@@tommccarthy3052 I just wish Journey and Van Halen did the same thing when the original singer left --- rename the band and create a whole new identity
@@tommitchell4570 Hard to do - unfortunately - with the legal stuff involved. And that stuff has been around forever.
I remember Queensryche had a big spat after their original singer left & for a year he & the band were both using the name.
Jon Anderson - Yes - had the healthiest attitude about it (iny opinion) where he didn't care that the band he founded was touring without him - & playing the songs. He said it was everybody's legacy & the fans can go see who they want.
Always interesting tho' when the songs/legacy continue after the principals are gone. It worked with Deep Purple & Black Sabbath, & certainly Fleetwood Mac, but for some bands "that sound" is so locked in around a particular group of musicians you can't get around it.
You can also add Adrian Smith re-joining Iron Maiden along with Bruce Dickinson
Peter Criss did not come crawling back to KISS. He was ASKED back by Gene and Paul for the reunion tour because they knew they'd make a fortune. G&P made 80 million each. They gave Ace and Peter 1 million each.
THIS. Peter and Ace aren't the materialistic, money grubbers that Paul and especially Gene was. They also trashed Vinnie Vincent and had Eric Carr not passed away they probably would've ran him off as well.
@@MJ98774 The way Paul shit all over Eric Carr, even calling him "untalented" is inexcusable
@@Lakotashunkaha Wasnt aware of that...but I wouldn't put it past Paul to virtue signal and play the good guy just because Eric was sick and dying. Makes sense.
Another thing I remember...Eric's wife or GF didnt like either Gene nor Paul...and one of them admitted as such.
These guys dont seem to get along with anybody. It was funny AF when Peter and Ace both mentioned Gene nor Paul have any friends and the only reason why they tour is not only the money but outside of Kiss? They dont really have a life.
Kind of pathetic when you think about it.
@@MJ98774 His sister Loretta said they fired Eric on his deathbed
I feel like Gene and Paul were looking for replacements that would do what they were told.
Allan Clarke of The Hollies did the same, he left the band in 1971, wanting to pursue a solo career, but after the success of the song Long Cool Woman (which he co-wrote), and with the other Hollie bandmates wanting Allan to come back (as their replacement singer was incapable of singing the song), Allan eventually came back in 1973/74, up until 1999 when he retired.
I was about to type a comment "Suprised Allan Clarke wasn't on this list" then saw this comment. :)
Ace and Peter didn't come crawling back. Kiss was on it's last leg before the Reunion Tour.
Same could be said about Vince and Motley
I heard that the only reason Ace and Peter were invited back was because the promoters were only going to have the tour and pay the money if it was the original KISS.
There's always been a debate as to whether Paul and Gene "kept the flag flying", or "ran the name into the ground".
@@dhenderson1810 I believe that's true --- there was a shitload of cash being offered and the promoters knew an original lineup was the only one that would make money
“Iron maiden guitarist and leader, Steve Harris”… that hurt to hear given that Steve is one of the most iconic bassist in rock/metal 😅😅
Bassist!! I screamed when he said guitarist 😮
Wait wait....Vince Neil didn't leave! He was fired!
Frusciante has the most human reasoning for both. He’s a perfect example of the mental toll of fame and touring. In the 90s it almost killed him, and the 2000s was mental exhaustion. Easily one of the most down-to-earth musicians for that alone
Frusciante is a genius. Period. It says everything.
We can all relate to Frusciante --- the pressures of work got to him, and we all feel like that about our jobs at some point
Bill had changed his style of drumming in Mickeys absence. He had spent 4 years holding down the rhythm and didn't want to give it up. He says that in his book too.
Surprised you left out Ozzy & Black Sabbath. He was gone before they started recording "Never Say Die" in '78, only to return after they had replaced him.
Ya but around that time his father died and he was drinking. He wasn’t gone for long and he didn’t come crawling back.
@@shanewhelan5067 He was gone long enough for them to find another singer and record all the songs with different lyrics. No, he didn't come crawling back, but neither did half the musicians in the video.
I enjoy seeing Arnel Pineda with journey
I think you left out the biggest one of all. David Lee Roth of Van Halen.
Both times he came back they called him. He needed them but they needed him as well.
@@gator2813 The band thrived with Sammy Hagar. After Sammy left they failed with Gary Cherone and only then did the ask him to return. And basically from the time he left until the time he returned David was banging on the door to be let back in. And he's very bitter that the band was as successful as it was without him. So maybe technically you're right but practically he was desperate to get back in. He basically fell off the planet once he left Van Halen.
@@hollysdad49 DLR didn't fall off the planet when he left VH. He wasn't as successful without them as he was with them but he still sold a few albums and a few concert tickets. I wouldn't complain too much about the money he made as a solo artist if it was in my bank account. I guess you forgot about DLR rejoining VH just long enough to put out a greatest hits album before they hired Cherone. DLR might have wanted back in the band but it was EVH that had to swallow his pride and ask him to rejoin the band.
@hollysdad49 his solo debut was decent though.
@@tysonwilliams4467 If I remember correctly it was mostly covers (California Girls, Tobacco Road, Just a Gigolo). Not much original. He got some airplay on MTV but not much radio.
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I know it's only rock and roll but I like it.
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Good luck to you now 😘
When Steve Perry left in 87 it was largely because his mom got cancer he was tired but she's the big reason then later Neil Schon forced him out over hip replacement
For someone to call Rob Halford a “screamer” doesn’t know shit about music. Dude could sing like no other,not to say screaming is easy but Halford has an excellent voice
Hagar is an idiot.
This happens so often to great bands. Lead singer thinks that he's better, fans make them feel that way, unfortunately they discover too late that they weren't so great after all without the band. Then everyone loses.😔
It's called LSD,lead singers disease,but do a little research cause Steve didn't have that,he had a lot on his plate injury,his mother's passing. This is misinformation by this channel..again.
Steve Harris is the bassist, one of the greatest of all time 🤘🏻
Rock history channel.... Lol
Exactly!
Well, one of the greatest at triplets.
I don't know for sure if Pat Smear leaving the Foo Fighters due to Dave Grohl's divorce is true or not. But in their Back and Forth documentary in 2011, Pat said he initially left the band since he didn't want to tour anymore since he had been at it with other bands for so many years already.
STEVE NEVER CRAWLED BACK TO JOURNEY
Steve Harris is not a "guitarist"
The bass is also a guitar. A bass guitar.
@@gator2813 But in that context it implies a six string player when he is one of the most legendary bassists of all time, he deserves the proper title haha
Journey was basically TOLD to hire a different lead vocalist or get dropped from Columbia.
Rob Halford wanted to live his authentic life after decades of being in the closet. He was more concerned about the band, so he sacrificed his best years. He didn't come crawling back. He still thought he would be a detriment and poured out his pain and conflicting emotions in that letter. He's a fking hero!
Amen
Like Freddy Mercury and David Bowie? Elton John? I call bullshit on Rob's part. He was chickenshit of himself and most likely ashamed. That's all on him. No hero status for admitting you're gay or keeping it concealed.
Rock fans don't give a shit. That has been proven more times that you could shake a stick at.
Oh I just love the timing of this and blink playing Coachella
Why does Steve Perry look like Bon Scott in that thumbnail?
Members of Fleetwood Mac
Wait how do you tell the Journey story and leave out where he re-arranged the band with Randy Jackson thus setting up long term resentment to the original members?
John Taylor left Duran Duran to pursue a solo career. He said he had enough of the ups and downs the band was having. He said he would never return to it. Then it came time for the reunion. He said he would only get involved if Roger and Andy Taylor got involved, showing that it was the band's glory days he missed. And since then, he has been back with the band. He obviously found that it was probably in his best interest, since his solo career didn't do so well.
Dickinson didn't come crawling back.
am I the only one who saw Rob Halford leaving Priest as a positive?
Ripper was great. Priest still sounded like Priest and it was still cool to listen to them. Dude could really sing.
Meanwhile Halford formed Fight, and I might get some hate on this but Fight was so much better than Priest. For me, yeah I know they helped define a genre. They inspired a lot of future metal heads including myself. You'll not find a single Judas Priest album in my collection then or now though.
Agree! Rob`s solo stuff is great.
If you grew up with Priest from early on till Painkiller. Then listened to Fight. Well I didnt have any of THAT in my music collection.! Should have stayed where he was. Where he is now.!! Judas Priest.😊😂❤
@@raymondmorrow9824 Priest now is just a tribute band of itself
Gotta do another one of these lists 😄Jim ward/at the drive in comes to mind
The Clash sacked Terry Chimes after they released their first album. 8 years later after the band imploded, Joe Strummer needed him back in the band. Terry was the only one not to take drugs
While I did enjoy watching the video, I found the title misleading.
I think motley crue's label wanted vince back after the disappointing reception of the john corabi album.
That Corabi album sucked so much. I swore off the Crue for 15 years after that.
Kurt didn’t die.
What a total bull story of Steve Perry crawling back to Journey. You kind of need to research what happened when he needed hip replacement surgery.
Hart was fired for his drug use, he was unable to play, and he came back in October 1974 not 1975.
Vince didn't necessarily come crawling back. It was a business decision by the record company.
Phil Collins and Genesis. Jon Anderson and Yes. Steve Howe and Yes. Bill Bruford and King Crimson. All the band except Axl Rose and Gun`n`Roses.
I don't think Steve Perry crawled back . I also don't think Steve Perry didn't cry when Eddie and his band Van Halen decided NOT to extend their concert contract when they went to open for Journey promoting Van Halen 1 .
you forgot about the most iconic case... SLASH
Just a thought: due to the tension within Journey it seems they may be setting up for a Steve Perry return.
"Come crawling back!?" I call shannanigans on some of these poorly reserched stories! I recommend a do over...
i think the crawling back is a bit of a no-no. Some bands begged, or asked nicely to bring singers back, Iron Maiden example
Several of the stories are vice versa: sound like the band begged the firmer membef to come back.
RHCP died in 1992. Nothing good came from them after that
Metallica also stopped being a good band after 1992 LOL
I heard rumours but didn't know if Pat actually left because of Dave's divorce.
"Substance abuse and Mental Health" ?? That sentence shocks me. I'm a grandpa and I had drugs problems during 30 years or so, so, I was crazy ?! Strange, but why not. 🤪
If it helps, things have evolved over time. With the publication of the DSM III in 1980, there was a shift away from explicitly regarding addiction as the manifestation of an underlying psychological pathology.
Prior to that in the DSM I (1952) and DSM II (1968) it was regarded in itself as a mental disorder and for that reason state hospital systems had facilities specifically for alcoholism and drug addiction.
For the record I don't believe that alcoholism is a mental illness, and while people do often attempt to self-medicate for an actual mental illness with drugs not intended for that purpose, addiction, in my opinion is not a mental illness either.
I mean for heaven's sake, the DSM I and the DSM II defined epilepsy as a mental illness. People were once institutionalised because they had seizure disorders. Where I am that was outlawed by various state Mental Health Acts throughout the 1970's.
I think there's a problem with bureaucracies grouping multiple things together, possibly when they aren't necessarily related.
I wonder why so many social programs in the U.S are administered by the Department of Agriculture when the Social Security Administration exists, for example.
I guess it was just easier to pass funding through Congress that way ?
Where I live it's a weird thing but the Arts portfolio is almost always bundled with another unrelated ministerial portfolio. Currently Employment and Workplace Relations (equivalent to the U.S. Secretary of Labor), but I recall it being done at other times by :
-an Attorney General
-a Minister for Veterans Affairs (equivalent of Administrator of the Veterans Administration in the U.S.)
-and a Minister for the Environment and Water (that's probably equivalent to part of what the U.S. Secretary of the Interior does but we haven't had a Department of the Interior for over fifty years).
It's just a thing governments do, is what I'm saying.
Ed king came back and played for Skynyrd after he left the band years before!
I thought Travis wasn't going to make it. Damn John was messing with crack.
Surprised Dave Silveria of Korn ain’t on this list.
Better do your homework on steve perry!
7:07: I had the displeasure of meeting Steve Perry, while a clinician at Cedars-Sinai medical center. He relentlessly spoke of how I have 'must've' heard of him. The rude narcissists presumed I must be fan given my age and waist length ponytail. The entire output of this band, in my opinion, and many of my '70s contemporaries, found it to be revulsive, saccharine drivel, given its complete lack of any expertise of musicianship. Mediocrity churning out schlock, over-worn juvenile heart breaks. 😢Ho-hum and yuck!🤮
@Jon Doe I believe your assessment is primarily a manifestation of your 'personal' projection of uncomfortable, emotional concerns. I, in contrast, was portraying a personal, appros incident, given the content referenced. Not all of life is pleasant and easy, thus a rendition of a tense, unpleasant experience is 'part of life'. Unapologetic and unamended.👋
@Jon Doe My portrayal of an atypical interaction with a 'celebrity' seemed to've ruffled your feather. While your sensibilities have been shaken a bit, too bad. In a democracy, diversity of opinion indicates maturity, sounds as though you missed that stop, on the road of life. Heaven help you.🤨👋
steve perry, rocks wimp
Corabi sucked. Period. When he left Crue, he put together a band that ripped off songs the Philly circuit made famous. And he didn't do anything except play them note for note.
Steve Perry decided he was going to play boss. First thing he did was fire Steve Smith and Ross Valory. Nobody was happy about that. Then Steve developed a throat problem. They found a guy from the Phillippines, Arnel Pineda, that sounded dead on like Perry. Smith and Valory came back and nobody bothered with Perry anymore
Rob Halford`d solo career was very interesting and pretty successful. Sad he ended it. The JP now is pretty boring, the tribute band of itself.
Fight was really good too.
Painkiller blew ANY of his solo albums away.! They were good.. But come on..😮😮
That is not at all the entirety of Pay Smear’s story…
Crawling back isn't accurate especially for Steve Perry
Where's the crawling?
What you said about Vince Neil isn't true.
Danny Joe Brown of Molly Hatchet
Steve Perry never crawled back. Journey rehired him cause they needed him.
Full of errors.
Harris is a bassist not a guitarist.
+44 was the far better band that came form Blink.
Tom cam crawling back a second time cause he's millions in debt from To The Stars, justt got divorced and has a kid he most likely has to pat alimony for. 5 years from now he'll leave without telling them. Again.
I always wonder why tom came back I thought that it was because Mark hoppus suvaied cancer. But I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Or that he gets his manager to tell blink that he left again
maidens leader steve harris does bass not guitar
Sorry dude but you are totally wrong about Steve Perry and Journey 😂..know the facts about Steve Perry and Journey before you make a video 😉
Motley $pew. Peter Cri$$.
Music biz is xxxx not it’s victims FYI rock industry boring boring ripoffs!!!! Zzzzzzzzzzz wake me when the wan.......
Perry Ruined Journey!!! 😡
Dumbest statement I ever heard
9:37 Correction: Steve Harris was the bassist.
Blink 182 were vile enough first time around,no need for a reformation.
Steve Perry is not one of them ,which you put on your click.
john frusciante is the only one in that band that had any modicum of talent
That's a crazy statement and totally inaccurate --- Anthony and Flea sold that band to the masses
@@tommitchell4570 same fucking songs about california over and over again, wow, what geniuses.