5 Things DoorDash DOESN’T Tell Dashers (Watch BEFORE Driving)
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
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0:00 - Intro
0:10 - How To Tell If An Order Includes A Tip
1:39 - DoorDash Will Send You Low Paying Offers
3:16 - Not All Driver Markets Will Be Worth It (Profitable)
4:26 - How To Measure If Your Market Is Worth It
5:04 - DoorDash Does Not Tell You Which Restaurants Are Bad
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8:24 - Problems With Multi-Apping The Wrong Way
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So if u refuse an order it doesn't go against any of ur percentages ??
Lol u forgot they try two give two houses or two stores for a low pay. And I had to go a market and carry 63 items that's was labor. It was not worth it
Hello Mike so I need some help here when you're doing door -Or Uber or whatever food delivery app? How do you justify doing round trip on the order? I hear a lot of people say 0 $10 for 2 miles. But really it's $10 for 4 miles because you have to go there and come back. Please help me out with that thank you
Do you have any advice I can do if I'm on the waiting list in several applications?
When the guy is very smart you got a blacklist people you know it granted it is my account I use I know what Walmart was checking on they were making sure that I was actually the person supposed to pick it up and I wasn't using someone else's account but the time it takes the screw with them as it is and get one of them outside the store and get your car loaded now you got to jump back in for they'll put a product in your car and grab your driver's license out of your wallet or me I'm a professional driver so I keep it locked up in the car itself so I can have it for police with insurance I don't need it anywhere else doesn't seem like a lot of time but yes even if you screw off for 30 seconds 30 seconds of screwing up to turn into multiple minutes and recovery time and if you pay attention to your Dasher clock and Dasher time which are different you know how you were on the clock for 8 hours but you were really only dashing 46 there's more lost revenue
Dashers this is great advice. DO NOT accept any order under $3.50 When these trash orders are declined enough times doordash will increase the amount just to get someone to take it. So if we all work together and decline them we can force the amount up to an acceptable amount.
or get a real job
Well I also have a full-time job but doordash is a great way to make money on the side
Aleast charge $2.25 a mile and force the customers to tip how much they spent on their orders I said aleast 10 % or better to be fair
Companys & Customers & drivers
Everyone will be Happy
All Customers paid different depending on distance And how big is the order
Smart Strategy. 👍
@DoopaVII lmfao.. you don't really get to say that if you've EVER used a delivery service... oh btw... your mail is a delivery service. Very real job. You seem like one of those brokies that think most people do doordash as anything other than supplemental income and to keep themselves busy. Some people don't like sitting in front of the TV when they get out of work.
Wow rude much. I just signed up to DoorDash and I have a full time job. Also a full time care giver for my husband who had cancer all through his body and my son is autistic so I take him everywhere. I need the extra money
One thing you don't think about is when dropping off at a house, pay attention to if the customer's door opens inward or outward so they don't knock over what you put at the door if placed incorrectly
deep!
If it's a leave it at the door, regardless how the door opens, I don't care. At one time I did. Not anymore. And I don't care if there is trash or animals around either. That is on the customer.
Where I live, coyotes love “leave at door” orders!😅
I put it right at the steps cuz you don't know how far their door does open
@Vicky Hilden this is why tipping gets worse, YOU are causing reasonable and courteous to get a bad rap because you dgaf. Very cool. /S
I just did my first door dash delivery and was tipped $11.50 😁
Nice
Lucky. My first order i got no tip.
Noobs always get a false sense of security with higher paying orders. Come back in a month or two and tell us you aren’t getting sub-$5 orders and your AR is still high 😅
my first one was guaranteed $12.50 but $1 tip jus for ONE BOBA 😂
Get ready for really big orders with an expected payout of like 15-20 dollar and then proceed to get paid two dollars because they don't tip you.
One thing I can say is to avoid people saying they didn't get their order, always take pics. If it's says hand it to them, and then they tell you to leave it at the door instead. Take a pic of the food and send it to them in a message to cover yourself.
Yes i learned this lesson! 😅
What if they don't choose either? A order I had she didn't pick either one I don't think cause the app didn't say. I'm new lol
@@juliacarter1280 They have to choose something. Either leave at door, hand to me, or a "contactless delivery" option where you're supposed to call them upon arrival. Which, that last one really annoys me, how the hell is it "contactless" if the very first thing you do is force me to call them?
Had someone do that. I take pics if the app doesn't ask me to take a pic
Do you still have to take pics if you hand it to them? How would you even go about that? Ask them to pose with it or something? Lol
I'm not sure what to do about some of this as a newbie
Should talk about restaurants that have salsa bars (many hispanic restaurants). I'm constantly getting deliveries with no sauce because restaurant says driver is supposed to grab the sauce, and driver says restaurant is supposed to provide the sauce. In the war of laziness, I'd say the restaurant is responsible, not the driver.
Yeah. A delivery person should not be touching food at all.
@@zombieshoot4318As in another vid I watched, drivers don’t have food handlers permits so NO driver should be touching food at all.
@@bigchills7194 That's a great point.
I always make sure that they know that I don't work there at the restaurant and I will not be preparing their food
I just did my first, it was like 4 dollars with a 6 dollar tip. So excited!!
I just started Friday 2/18/24. The first day I dashed i made 78$ in 4 hours. The second day I made 98$ in 4 hours. So in 8 hours it was 176$. 22 bucks an hour. Thats better than the 13$ an hour the ap was offering.
Now subtract 30% for taxes and expenses.
@@zexxxy_ow2 learn to write off everything - try 4.7%
@@zexxxy_ow2 lol good one
Soon you will get below $10/- per hour or drive more miles less money. Mostly you will get below 0.50 cents per miles . I am old dasher and now switching somewhere else.
I took a $3.25 order. And got a $98 tip
I took a 8 dollars order and got 53 dollar tip…I don’t know where these people live that they getting 2.50 for a order 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
@@coreymoto Missoula, MT for example. Our base pay ranges from $2.00-2.75. If I accept a non-tip order, I'm dealing with a $2.00-2.75 order.
DD REALLY hiding that tip haha they didn't even show $6 or $9 they said, "whoever gets this one this going to love it"😂 nice job!
Yeah right. That’s bs. 2.25 base pay no tip in my area 10 mi drive
I did two grocery delivery 🤣 and got total $50 on my first day as doordash dasher
I noticed this past week during my scheduled dash if I declined no tip/low tip orders it would pause me and when I tried to resume it said "can not resume a completed dash".....it straight up completed my dash and booted me off.
DD is dying and all these drivers taking these awful orders are making it harder.
People who don't tip shouldn't even be allowed to order.
Declining dash orders thru reasons or timer expiration the system punishes Dashers.? Doesn't matter what the reason is.
Any choices leads & tells the system the same answer regardless if it's an emergency, need a bathroom break, my dash is almost over, having car troubles, store is closed, it's the same to the system AI & & your answers do effect your ratings that hits what orders the system sends you.
its getting even worse. I just commented above, but they're changing driver acceptance requirements to force drivers to take unfair orders.
Absolutely agree. Tip should not be optional. A mandatory 10% would actually be awesome. That would guarantee 25$ an hour no matter what in my market and that is enough to live on.
@@zexxxy_ow2even better, DD should up their contribution enough enough so you all make on AVG $25 an hour.
I read a lot of your experience in DD mainly because that's what I do. I do it because I love to serve people and also make tips. In my experience it's a fun an rewarding side gig. For the person who got 98 tip, that was a generous thing your customer did for you. I would be happy if customer at least leave a generous tip of $7-10 tip, but some customers don't have a car and the extra money to spend because they are on a fixed income, but they are worth serving too, and they are just as important as anyone else. I usually do good on a weekly income and I don't sweat the low tippers or the no tippers, because it usually is fair wages at the end of a week. God Bless you All and hope things get better for you.
Oh my goodness, this is exactly what I told my husband,
" what if they just don't have a car, what if they are sick, what if it's hungry kids?"
You just don't know someone's situation, if you are in it only for the money, might not be the job for you
Without peak pay ( which I don't chase, and never usually get ) I consistently make $22 -34.00/hour. I live in a location where there are a TON of restaurants, Petsmart, pharmacies, etc. I usually get a couple red card orders per shift, which pay a lot better.
same here, that is my average goal within an hour. i just learned my lesson, first time doing DD i will drive around just to get the orders in, now i know a few spots where i can get orders in while waiting in my car, if nothing comes in in 5 to 10 mins, i move to the other location and do the same thing again
How do you get red card orders?
@@scarletspider9891 hang out near walgreens, meijers, or any grocery stores that accept DoorDash orders. However, keep in mind usually those are some of the best paying orders depending on the market so DD tends to offer those to mostly Top Dashers.
Do you multi app?
I live in a small town and I have consistently made AT LEAST $20/hour
The IRS calculation for business mileage reimbursement for 2023 is $0.655/mile (total cost of ownership & operation). So for a 2.8 mile delivery the car alone costs $1.834. That means the driver earns only $1.666 for a 10-15 minute delivery. That does not include 'dead-heading' to this job and to the next job. Now banks are telling auto dealers they will *not* lend to uber, lyft, doordash, etc. drivers. That's because the cars they are getting back are two-year old cars with 80,000 miles plus on the ODO.
Interesting info!! Thank you!
Then don’t tell em you’re doing door dash…
Sometimes Door Dash stops sending you orders for awhile once you decline a certain number of low ball offers because they will start sending multiple order request to other drivers
That makes sense. I've declined orders and they've come back within a minute as a bundled order.
Uber does the exact same thing. It's completely naive to say that your acceptance rate doesn't matter. Of course it does. Everything you do or don't do on these delivery apps matters. We are not "contractors" we are employees. Employees who are treated like trash
@@yongtimlim5038 and I decline if DD does that. It's ridiculous.
I've been averaging probably $14-16 on uber eats and doordash. I'm terrible at accepting orders. I never look to see how far it is so I end up driving far. My acceptance rate is fairly good but who cares. But the freedom to work when I want is too good to move on to something else.
Same boat I’m in
Try not to take every order 🤷🏻♂️ is good to work on your terms but you’re making way less than you should’ve off
@@luisfermin608 It's been six months and I'm much better now. I'm more like 20 an hour now. I've noticed when it's busy I don't get the crap offers. All under 6 miles. Most around 1.50 per mile. When it's not busy though I still get the crap offers so I try to only work during peak hours. But a few months of experience made all the difference. I'm much more content now compared to when I first started.
Train yourself to look how far you’ve going because that’s wasted time coming back especially if it takes u out your zone and can’t pick up orders on your way back sucks on gas
The freedom is what I love about it.
I'm not usually late but, it would help if Google maps didn't give bad directions.
Agree! Instead of telling me turn around or do a u-turn, it will literally try to re-route me way the hell around and back to the place that I accidentally just passed up. It's annoying.
I took an $8 order and turned into $55. 😁
The higher pay orders that take me a good distance outside of my zone pisses me off. The other thing I can't stand is when I'm taken out of my zone and into a section of the city I don't really want to or feel safe to dash in and then get basically get stuck there.
Right! When I end up in those areas, I always pause my dash orders so I can get back to a decent spot. It sucks because you''re eating that cost of driving back, but it's better than being in an unsafe area that doesn't tip anyways.
@@ata5855 Yes, I've had to hit pause also. Sometimes what will happen is the app will kind of take me in a circle with orders back to somewhat close to where I started. I'll pick up on order where I don't really want to be but the drop off will be getting closer to my zone. Then another until it has me back near my start area.
Door dash Corp & its system AI DGAF about its Dasher, we're not employees, we're worthless expendable therefore easily replaceable pawns.
that happened to me on my very first delivery and i was so pissed and anxious
This has been happening to us lately. 😢
I told a fellow dasher that I basically have all the gig apps open when I work. He was like "Oh, I could never multi-app like that. It's too risky." I then told him I still only do one order at a time, but I just see more offers this way. I think I blew his mind because he paused, then his eyes lit up, then he said "bro!" ding ding ding lol
Yeah, I made that mistake and just gave myself more competition. The population is 13k here and there’s only like 6 restaurants. 🤦🏼♂️
@@HotTakeAndyexactly, the best thing to do in your own market is to keep it to yourself. Why would you want to go around telling your competition tips on how to take your money? I’ve had new people in my area tell me that they see me around a lot and ask for help. I just try to give the most dry, basic advice and end the conversation politely. I’m not going to tell them anything about my strategies and potentially mess things up for myself.
@@joemiller2205 why not? You can’t be at the same time on every order lol 😂
Good to know. How do you manage the other apps once you take an order? Do you then "Pause orders" on the other apps, to avoid decreasing acceptance rate?
Yeah I multi app with DD and Uber Eats. It works.
I drove 40 min for 3 dollars. All good, happy to help. hearing the words. Thank you is worth it
Fueled by knowledge you've helped us all... Especially this new dasher.
Success to you in huge volumes!
Once again we can always be better than yesterday.
Thank you
I don't have to worry about blacklisting my local mcdonalds, they got kicked off for screwing up orders so much
NEVER assume there is going to be a tip. If it says 5.00 expect 5.00. It's not worth taking if its less than a dollar a mile. Keep in mind your expenses: gas. wear and tear on the car, and the time it takes to drive it. Your drive time is valuable!
100%
The delivery apps are trying to combat cold food which is the biggest customer complaint. In order to do this they are sending drivers way early to restaurants even before the order has been started and before the restaurant has clicked "call for driver" on their iPad. Contrary to what you might think , they also now send the closest available driver to the restaurant. This combination means we are constantly waiting for food and it's only going to get worse to the point where it's no longer worth our time to do food delivery. The food delivery companies could not care less about the drivers or merchants, they only care about the customers
That's definitely true, notice how we can't review customers? Lol We should though.
That means, if a customer is a horrible person they will be less likely to get food delivered.
@@Moon_Presence I had one that was such garbage to me (he called me on the phone, which I’m not sure if they are recorded or not but I hope so) that I called DoorDash and said I never want to deliver to him again. They assured me it wouldn’t happen again. Nope, I’ve definitely delivered since. 😠
Same here, now im waiting at least 20-30 mins between orders. Its crazy. Except Doordash only cares about money. Screw the people.
@@HotTakeAndy spit in it
@@rgscomputers1 yeah I’m not 12
I don't know about other markets but in my market, DD prioritises drivers by their acceptance rate. If you let your AR go below 50% they will pass you over to give higher-paying orders to drivers with an AR over 50 and even more for those over 70. So, in this case you are getting penalized for rejecting low-ball orders.
And me
Gotta keep the ratings up to get the higher dashes
Same. I’m still in priority tho and turn down the really bad ones.
Ok. So last night was my first night.. I had already told Wendy’s I was there for 2 orders.. bc the app combined then that way. So I’ve person couldn’t get a baked pot. So I text them. Had it changed. But for WHATEVER reason.. they took FOREVER to get these orders to me. It was close to closing. And I was the only person there. I had already communicated with both customers. And the app asked me to basically decline the order. I didn’t want to bc I had already waisted so much time. But in turn I was very late. Luckily my second order was a dasher. And she completely understood and tipped me extra. I thought she would be mad.. anyway I digress. So I noticed that my rate went to 50% right after the orders. Bc it was late. Not due to myself.. so should I have done what the app asked? I can’t remember the verbiage. But it said something about not having a penalty. Or keep the order and be penalized? What is this? Can anyone explain? And what is the best way to do that? Like if u would of said I didn’t want to do the order anymore.. Wendy’s was already making the food and I already told the customers I was waiting for it?
@@shawnaf that message from doordash is a new feature. If that message comes up, you could drop the order without any penalties but you won't be paid for the order. Usually, when you're in a situation where you're waiting a long time for the order but you still intend to take it, hit the link at the bottom of the order that says something about waiting for a long while. It'll bring up a checklist where you could check off why you've been waiting. From what I've been told, this will give an explanation to doordash as to why things are taking so long and should lessen the chance that your on time percentage goes down. I hope that helps.
Small town DoorDash user here, I live within 2 miles MAX of everything & I always wondered if DD payed you guys anything at all on top of our tips. It’s interesting to see the comments knowing that your area makes a huge difference. One thing I like about Uber eats is if the food comes to my house tampered with or if the driver is a complete dunce I can change the tip. Also the pro to that is I can give extra if the service is extra in anyway. If I ever see a DD driver stuck at let’s say chilis for more then 5 - 10 minutes I text them letting them know it’s okay on my end but that I understand there time is money an we usually talk trash about the restaurant & that seems to alleviate some of the stress. Those orders I tip well on knowing that it puts the driver out of commission for a bit. So far in my town all the drivers have been great & because I know that some people like me don’t like dealing with people face to face I just tell them to leave it at the door so they can just go without some awkward hand off 🤣 thanks for uploading this video to give both sides some insight to DDing
I do mostly late night dashing. I'll take a $3.50 super low mileage 7eleven order. Orders at most of the McDonald's, definitely gotta pay more.
Mid sized college towns are one of the best places to dash especially on weekends. Made roughly $30 an hour yesterday night. Even during slow times can pull atleast $20.
I do DoorDash full time. The area I deliver in almost never has bonus pay unless it's the middle of the night, and I've never seen a "challenge" in over 4500 deliveries. I have to schedule shifts because it rarely stays "busy" more than a few minutes. I average $20-$25 per hour. I do pay by time for the lunch shift and usually end up switching to pay by order about ¾ way through the dinner shift.
Pay by time? Wtf is this ?
@@christophtrispec3083 I’m wondering the same thing!
I did pay by time once when it came out and it was terrible for me. Never tried again. Is it not as trash as it seems?
@austinallen5243 it really just depends on your area. I'm in an area that rarely gets a peak pay. So I'm not missing out on that. And I'm also in an area where the majority of the restaurants are along a busy road with a lot of stop lights. At $12/hour (might be different in your area) that's $1 every 5 minutes from the time you accept the order until you complete it. So even a short delivery that normally pays $2.25 from doordash, usually ends up $3 or a little more. Plus at busy times, like lunch, it helps with wait times at restaurants. Just my experiences. May be different for you.
@@robertwarfield4791 Do you get paid from the moment you accept the order till when you drop it off?
I am in Dallas. I always have both Door Dash and Uber Eats up and running. As soon as I accept an order I immediately go to the other app and pause (DD has a pause. UE you go offline). Acceptance rate needs to be 50% or better on DD to get higher paying orders. UE doesn't have an acceptance rate requirement. Also, there is a certain culture that regularly doesn't tip. You'll figure it out as you go but I am wary of these restaurants. McDonalds is ok during peak hours but horrible after hours when there are like 3 people working the shift. Only time I accept a $3-$3.50 order is at the end of my shift and it has to be on my way back home.
Everything you said makes sense . I’ve been dashing for 3 years and now I know how to multi app . Well said Daniel !
Yeah I do the same thing, I have an 80% AR.
Black folk never tip
@@richp7226he's not talking about black people. He's talking about Indians. Notice also how the creator of this video used a 3.25 order from an Indian restaurant as an example. If you work in Dallas then you may have worked north Irving/los colinas zone and if so may have noticed the whole area is nothing but Indians
@@richp7226 Not true.
I started dashing one month ago. Mom said I would never amount to anything. It took about 30 years for me to prove her right.
If you are a dasher and you haven't gotten the master software then you're wasting your time dashing....3:21
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I'm sorry man... 😂
Omg... this is funny asl
I am just researching DD debating if I want to try it... But oh how I feel your comment. Lol Same dude same.
Since I started multi-apping, I've learned that DD really doesn't respect your time. With the other apps, the food is almost always ready when I walk in. With DD I almost always have to wait on the food. It is clear that DD just grabs someone nearby when the order is placed, while the others time it so the food is ready when you get there.
That is incorrect. GH dispatched offers immediately to drivers with no buffer. They always did this until March of 2022 when they improved their dispatch system with help from Amazon. DD and UE have similar dispatch system and they both work the same. There is a small buffer on each order before it is sent out, but not that much. The reason for this is drivers decline offers and driver desirability pay increases with time to increase the base pay on an offer. It is just random luck when you get the offer in comparison to when the order is ready. Since DD has so many active drivers it is hard to get offers so people are accepting low ball offers for various reasons. DD drivers aren't kicking around bad offers like we used to in the past with fewer drivers which is why you see less DD offers in the past 6 months. If you do get a DD offer chances are you are the first or second driver to see it. The offers on DD get snatched up very quickly these days. This is due to the glut of drivers active on the platform.
@@michaelhuebner6843 I don't doubt what you're saying is true, but I have to go with my own empirical observations. Last week I waited for more than five minutes at a restaurant 13 times, 12 of those were for doordash. My split was approximately 60% Uber Eats, 30% Doordash, 10% GrubHub. Full disclosure, I've only been doing GrubHub a couple weeks, so I don't have enough data on it to be significant. I've done over 500 doordash and a little over 200 Uber Eats, so the sample size on those is big enough for me to trust my own opinions. Whatever combination of variables that exist in my market, the result is I often wait at restaurants on doordash orders, while the other platforms I just walk in and pick up the bag.
@wavion2 I agree, I get orders quicker with UE with bare minimal wait in my market of NC. Doordash is trash here, low pay, long looong waits, except when the venue knows me and how i drop orders quick if its more than 5min wait. I've turned DD off for now and just work my other 12 apps instead.
If you are a dasher and you haven't gotten the master software then you're wasting your time dashing
@@hiurh2243 Do you have a link or search terms? Not finding it. Unless you mean Para. In which case, no thanks, I don't need to be deactivated.
Great advice! Wish I saw this sooner before I started Dashing!
I agree, blacklist most fast food. Sometimes Shake Shack can have long wait times.
I picked up an order with 12.25 tip for my surprised after delivering it the tip was 25 dollars totaled $27.25 😀
Heads up with the doordash support calling about a canceled order (the one you are on). They will ask you for your account info so they can process your pay. It's not Doordash support
I have a friend who owns a restaurant. Restaurants tell the apps how long their food will take to be ready for pickup. They can do it menu item by menu item or make it a blanket time, such as 20 minutes.
Whats funny on those $2.50, $3.00 orders when you let the timer expire the price goes up 25 cents each time until someone accepts it.
An hour later it's double 😃. Still not worth it. I once took an order an hour and a half later just to see if there is a tip the order went up more than double. There was no tip🙌.
Unless you get tricked and sent a stacked order lol then pay stays the same.
What I notice too is on the dash app the customer can't order everything that's on the restaurant's menu, which I feel holds back potential orders. Example, I can't order a lasagna because the restaurant doesn't have it listed on the dash app.
#1 worst thing McDonald's does is _put the cold drinks in the bag with the hot food._
I hate that. I hate it every time I see it. Not just drinks, either. Picked up from a sushi place today that put hot food in with the sushi roll. But generally, it's cold drinks that go into the bag with the hot food. And I hate picking up Starbucks orders because they put drinks in the bag, too, and I've had their drinks spill. I have a 6-slot drink carrier to keep the coffee warm (or cold, depending on the coffee drink), but they just _have_ to put it in a Starbucks bag for... reasons.
It's worse because I mainly drive Uber Eats. I often get extra tips from my deliveries. But who's going to want to tip extra for a cold burger, cold fries, and a lukewarm, watered-down drink?
I hate when they do that, I got coffee from McDonald's and Starbucks in a bag before too. Luckily I don't think it spilled
And then tamper-seals the bag! I HATE that!
When I get an order in a drink carrier I take them out at my car and load them up in a mini ice chest. I use empty water bottles and the drink carrier itself as wedges and bulwarks to keep the drinks from tipping or sliding. I have a larger ice chest I store the food in. Keeps my car from smelling like food, also. And with the original hotbag and the new pizza bags Im able to deliver cold drinks, hot food, and cold deserts safely. I carry the mini ice chest to the door and unload the drinks back into the carrier. I make sure the ice chest is in the frame when I take the pic.
As far as the sealed bags, I love those. No fuss, no muss. Place them in my large ice chest and Im outta there. The cold drinks/hot food issue is between the person who ordered, and the place that packed it like that. I think of it as none of my business, Im just a courier.
Cause nobody wants to carry a bunch of drinks 🙄
honestly i could care less how the merchant bag their food and drinks bc if it makes it easier on me then oh well not only that once it’s bagged we can’t open it no way so why stress not on us
Merchant relationship is probably the most important tip that gets overlooked. I always say words of encouragement and gratitude weather they are slow or not. I can show up to pick up an order and most of the time they know me and will skip to my order if I’m in line with other dashers.
I would say to stay out of certain areas where the people across the board don’t tip. Also after a while you can tell by the mile to pay ratio if there is a tip included.
Do go to the ghetto… they don’t tip
That's a great point you made with double app dashing. I was going to give it a go, but would hate to have one of my busier apps get shut down for a few dollars. The what if I thought of, is say your double app dashing, and your 2nd app is sending you pick up orders that does not aligned with the first order and now your force to constantly decline. Now I believe in DD contract states, too much decline can get your app deactivate.
I average $20-24 hour.... 1600 deliveries over 4 months. Solely with D-Dash
good points ... but one thing i didn't hear you mention is the Acceptance Rate the Doordash app keeps reminding drivers every single time the app is started ... yes, we can skip / decline orders we don't want to take for any reason ... but that also lowers the our acceptance rate, which affects our overall performance according to Doordash standards ...
however, i have also noticed that Doordash informs us of our AR as well as Customer Satisfaction 2 times when the app starts, once in the beginning and once when the early prompts stop showing up ... and the numbers given in the two prompts related to AR and CS differ greatly! in my example, on the 1st one i get %75 AR and 4.5 CS while on the 2nd one i get %95 AR and 4.7x CS ... which makes me laugh and interpret it as something wrong with the app's algorithm and so on ... but i also think maybe there's a good reason the app works that way!? dunno really ...
when they say the order is still being prepared and it’ll be a few minutes, press for an exact number, a few minutes ends up being 20 easily. you can be out there delivering someone else’s food and another dasher can have that order….
I know a person that successfully juggle between Instacart and Door Dash by simply pausing Door Dash to take an Instacart order and continue to pause until they've completed an Instacart batch.
Did it for 2.5 hours and made 51$ including tips. I love driving so I’m kinda liking it.
Hello mike :) I started dashing about 5 days ago and I noticed that every area is different to dash. My town usually has great tips but the restaurants are terrible when it comes to having the food ready, I waited over 15 mins for an order today and decided to never orders from this restaurant again. But the fast food restaurants are always ready for me. Yea they pay less but I can make more deliveries. I’m still learning what works best for me. Thank you for your video mike
me too!! hopefully i start making good profit i’d be happy to even make $100/200 weekly as i see some making $600 weekly 🙌🏻
Don’t wait. You are missing out on other better orders wanting more than 5 minutes.
KFC is one. They take long time to prepare the order
Yeah real food takes longer to cook then your processed frozen fast food.
Another thing DoorDash (and other gig apps) doesnt tell you thats pretty important.... Your full coverage insurance is NOT ENOUGH!!! Most insurance plans does NOT cover you if you are delivering and get in an accident. I learned the hard way! Even the policies that most insurance companies offer us delivery drivers dont cover you through the entire process. According to them there is 3 parts to a delivery... most will only cover you for 2 of those 3 parts. Check your policy and know for sure what is covered!
I called my insurance prior to signing up for DD, it's $26 for 6 months coverage. Not bad at all.
My best dash spots are McDonalds, Taco Bell, Panera Bread, and Checkers! They are always, always, always, ready!!!!!!
Mike.. you are a Superstar!!! thanks so much for all these great videos.. not the best day dashing lol.. started out good and got worse as the day progressed.. lol.. cvs order.. waiting on customer for substitute almost left after no answer calling and texting.. then a reply .. did u ever get a reply after u just left? are we expected to go back after wasting so much time.. another thing happens my phone goes a little nuts and it doesnt show miles i accept and found out i was accepting $6 order for 8 miles ugh.. it was to a Dominos and NO TIP.. cmon man lol.. they should know better :)
Thank you for this video I learned a lot
Location is key. Some areas that are bigger require more driving. More time and money...pick an area that is smaller with lots of doordash restaurants👍
I live near Indianapolis. When I'm not getting peak pay or any other promo, I average $18-22. With peak pay, it's $20-27 per hour.
You make what I make…… might be the only honest comment on this thread
A lot of the Peak Pay around Indianapolis tends to be when restaurants are closed. Anywhere between 11 PM & 4 AM. 😫
At least we don't always have to go through drive-thrus anymore.
Thank you for your video!
$14-$21 per hour depending on the day of the week. Most people don't consider that maybe a Wednesday is not as good as a Friday. As well as different times of day. Lunch time in my market has a ton of orders, but very few high paying. Most lunch orders don't tip. Dinner orders always pay better here.
You can also make 2,500 grand as a dasher when you get the master software . Your question should be how to get the master software 5:21
@@Richie535-what 9s the master software
McDonald’s in my area will leave a door by the drive thru unlocked. Allowing dashers to skip the drive thru is crucial to delivering hot food. Wendy’s on the other hand, closes the lobby early. And will make you sit behind 5 cars to get your order. You can count on 20-25 min pick up after 7:30pm.
I drive a RHD car and I don’t go out after 9:30 because of lobby closing early.
My Wendy's is awesome until the lobby closes. McDonald's is hit and miss in the morning and after 10pm
@@ingood0867 If you are a dasher and you haven't gotten the master software then you're wasting your time dashing
Tips should be placed by the person who orders when they order and the total expected amount should be shown to you. That would save people's times and force people who place orders to raise their bids if nobody picks their order. Drivers should also be able to set a minimum in their apps, so the system could warn customers if there's no driver around willing to accept the proposed tip. Can't believe they don't have something like that in the system already. Same with Uber. You try to get a short trip, the app defines the amount, you see there's a driver or two nearby, they never pick your ride because it's not enough profit for them. Meanwhile they stay there without working for a very long time and you're unable to raise the amount you want to pay so they find it fair to come to you. I had to walk with luggage 3 or 4 in the morning for about 4 Km, including roads without sidewalks, because I couldn't just add a bonus. Meanwhile I could see a couple of cars in the Uber map. 😬
Happy to know they're not punishing people for not taking orders if it's not worth their time.
Wow! That's a great idea. You should send that to their customer service people
They get enough newbies that don't know enough to decline crap orders. That's the bread and butter for dd.
@@linross246 The middle man always wants to take the most from people paying and give the least to people working. But you ask deliverers if they'd like to be paid directly in the future and you're the one that sounds like a creep instead of them recognizing you want to cut the middle man while spending less while also letting them keep more. Same with Uber. Most drivers just want you to use the app instead of offering you a discounted deal for cash on the side (so they can also avoid tax).
Uber is great for consumers in poor countries (at least in Brazil) but here in Europe it's VERY expensive for users, not profitable enough for drivers, difficult to find any driver available when you actually need one (when there's no buses going around, for example, because it's 3 AM). When I can, I just drive myself or take the bus. You can't get an Uber 3 AM even if you are willing to tip 10 euros where I live, on top of surcharge and regular cost. Specially if it's a short ride from your house to the train station. I had to drag my luggage a couple of times for a few Km on the street because of it. No taxis either. Or you have to travel to the airport the night before and sit in the airport for 8 hours.
Actually they are punishing you the more you decline the more percentage rate goes down and all you'll get is 5 to 7 dollar orders or larger orders with very long mileage that you can only purchase gas with so you delivered the food for free!
We have been Dashing for 2 months in the Chicago burbs as a side hustle. We do lunch and dinner shifts 6-7 days a week. We rarely get the bonus pay. And our hourly average for that whole time is right at $20/hour. Thanks for the great videos.
If you are a dasher and you haven't gotten the master software then you're wasting your time dashing....
May I ask which suburb? I’m usually in the NW area since I fear driving in the city.
@@armanibinion8447 , we are in Joliet.
@@armanibinion8447 , we are in Joliet.
@@hiurh2243 Troll 😗😗
My thoughts are that if you are buying your meal at a place like MCD, Wendy's, KFC, etc, you are also probably trying to keep the cost down, which in turn tells me they would not be big tippers. That is why I prefer to hang around the Carraba's, Olive Garden, (more restaurant-type, less fast food). Am I overthinking this?
Agreed! Restaurant orders have higher tippers most of the time.
They try to be slick too by giving you a double order and one of them was the one you declined. Pfffff
I’ve learned how to take Instacart and doordash at the same time. It’s taken a while to learn what’s worth it in order to keep both delivery times and windows happy and I make at least $20-$30 an hour
living in laguna beach, being a top dasher. 4.82 stars. i work 3 hours after work weekdays and 4-5 hours on sat/sun. and make 1k-1.5k a week. with doordash. allowing me to net 120k a year alongside my day job.
Another thing in the PEAK PAY PAY MODEL IT STATES PEAK PAY OFFERED IS IN ADDITION TO ORIGINAL OFFER WHEN ACCEPTING DELIVERY! Many times they insert PPay into the original offer and label it "peak pay " which is contrary to the defined Peak Pay model! Drivers beware !! Those extra bucks represent lots of money that ADDS UP!! It is very confusing especially when you think you got proper peak pay when you really didn't!
10 minutes, never wait more than 10 for an order, then contact doordash, say why you want to unassign and it won’t count towards your completion rate.
Would like to get your take on Dasher professionalism. The other day I went to a Chik Fil A to pick up an order. I parked my car in a designated space. Another driver decided it was OK to park and sit in their car in the lane immediately AFTER the pickup window. I found this to be both rude to other customers picking up their orders and basically too lazy to park adequately. Amazing what some food delivery people will do.
Are u sure the restraunt didnt ask them to park there so they didn't have to go far to take them their food when it was ready
Some things I've noticed. . .
If it's going to be more than a 5 min wait look at the projected earnings and distance and determine whether it's worth it or not. Most of the time it isn't so I just cancel and try to pick up another.
I avoid apartment complexes and high rises that I am unfamiliar with. The ones in my area tip poorly and are usually cumbersome to deal with.
Chipotles seem to be good money makers during lunch and dinner rush. I usually post up there, some Pizza places are good too if they can actually get the food cooked on time.
ALWAYS look at miles vs. dollars and reject anything that doesn't make sense. Choosing which orders we accept is obviously key to your hourly earnings and the main power we hold as drivers. DECLINE crap orders no matter how many times DD sends them your way!
When You except an order you don’t know where you’re going to be delivering it to
Tell me how you avoid apartment complexes?
@@vickiehale4357 when you get the initial notification in the app, if you tap on the house it will give you the address.
Avoid Chikfila! Your wait eats up your time like crazy. Half an hour for $5!? Nope!
@@shatteredanis1592 if it’s been Really slow out I guess you have to just weigh it out
I do DoorDash part time and average 20/hr in Everett Washington dash time not active as they use to mislead people. But my pay is helped with catering orders and shopping ones. Rarely can you get on here it’s slow mostly so active only 50% usually unless working dinner during spring through fall.
I multi app with 3 different apps to make $30/hr. The order pickups and drop offs have to be in and around the same location, otherwise it doesn't work. I do have to decline a lot of offers in order to receive such offers. And sometimes I don't get them so I only have the single order. If I am able to fit in 1-3 stack orders on different apps (in a 3 hr shift), that's when I make $30/hr. On a single app it is usually $25/hr during dinner rush.
I don't see drop off locations when I get orders that's why I never know if they are in opposite direction or not. So I just go on mileage. And if the restaurant are closish
I ALWAYS multi-app. I live in Atlanta, and dashing doesn’t make much. However, Grub Hub pays extremely well. My GH runs are usually never less than $10, and everyone tips. I’ll make about $200+ on GH in 6 hour shift vs maybe $50 on dasher the same shift
Is it possible that Atlanta shops simply use other apps more often? Grub Hub could be more popular there.
@CancelledOpinion I really don’t have anything to go on in regards to other areas. I will say that I’ve door dash in Atlanta & Miami.. GH was better in my area than both of them on door dash
The area I like to work in I make $27 to $33 (based on night) an hour using hourly. If per order, $24 to $29. I never schedule and normally don’t get peak pay. I do like that peak pay is coming to hourly dashers as well.
True some places aren't good pay that's why you have a memo to list places that are bad, sometimes some restaurants do you dirty give you a good pay order for 30 dollars not that far and you go back and they try you with 6 dollar order
The 3rd year in row January has been dismal. You would think it would be great with all the extra snowbirds here in SW Florida. But I think the problem is that there are a lot of extra snowbirds dashers too. If the pattern holds again, it will start getting very good again mid to late February. You have to learn your patterns and adjust accordingly.
I leave Louisiana every winter for a few weeks and deliver in Florida or Tennessee/Missouri
I think it's just new Dashers in general...my market has been flooded too unfortunately 😕
You have to remember the holidays were a few weeks ago, so the extra income is paying off credit cards
@@robm6755 Louisiana has been decent mostly small $6/$7 orders last few weeks with a few massive stop and shops $15-$30 nothing great overall but decent enough for $500 a week
@@michaelsuzio4268 You have to be a little more specific. Louisiana market doesn't make sense. I deliver in Gonzales Prairieville market and usually do quite well. 40 hours 1,100 ish dollars. I'm sure you could probably do better in Lafayette,but would do far worse in Abbeville or New Orleans.
in my market I do uber eats and doordash at the same time. I have had up to 2 DD and 2 ue in the car at the same time. you just have to remember the delivery route because uber hides info until you pick up the food. but it can be done it is risky but if you know your market not that difficult.
uber eats has a longerime limit doordash has a set time or marked as late
I did the math im in milwaukee. With door dash this week as my part time I did 12:30 hours of dashing and made 298 dollars that averages 23.15$ per hour and Im a Mechanic on a flat rate system for 24$ an hour I going to further test to see how it goes as the days progress and I might consider just doing door dash full time.
I'm also in Milwaukee, McDonald's wait times are ludicrous. 1 hour in the drive thru for a 7$ order...
I Dash most nights for at least 4 hours a night in Monroeville PA. $20 to $28/ Hr consistently without any added perks. But you have to use your nugget.
Then I dashed later last night...yep, jinxed myself 🙄
I do 2 orders at a time
It always work perfect
I'm new to Doordash, couple of times it's happened where I'm on my GPS and suddenly I get an order, and I'm in the middle of driving. While driving I'll try to switch over and it takes it's own sweet time to switch to the app, and then by that time the order vanished and my acceptance rate went down.
Another time I did a doordash for a couple of customers where I drove almost 5 miles and DD payed me just 2 bucks for those and the crappy customers didn't even tip me. DD pays so little sometimes it's laughable
Alot of our drivers here campout at restaurants late at night where we're a smaller town
I just got a 50 dollar tip in cash yesterday along with the 4.16 tip on the app
I'm making about $16 an hour in rural Ohio. Which isn't great but it's a side hustle so it's fine in addition to my main income.
Doordash can give you extra money for super long wait times. Not guaranteed, but I recently got an extra $5 for waiting about 30 minutes at a restaurant. I know, ridiculous. I complained to doordash and they realized there was a discrepancy between the times in the app and the times the restaurant had. Other dashers that waited almost as long just canceled, but I waited and complained. In this instance the squeaky wheel got the grease.
No issues so far, Mondays, Fridays and Saturdays are my money days, especially in the eclectic areas of town...I'm in Indiana, and we always have $3.00 bonus pay....
McDonalds drive thru is the worst, you are there forever, the food ends up being cold, you arnt happy, the customer isnt happy. I rarely do it.
Door-Dash will give you a contract violation by being late just 1 time yet they allow you to literally not complete/delivery 20% of your deliveries.
So basically you can get hungry 20% of the time and get away with not delivering those orders.
I'm frustrated already with Doordash because my delivery time is being affected by the slow time of the restaurant. I even send notice that the food isn't ready and still get dinged.
Same. Stuff beyond my fault or control gets me dinged even when I notify DD and the customer.
It takes me at least 6 hours to make 100.00 and that's usually 100 to 125 miles...sometimes it takes me 8 hours..i don't take less than 6.50 to 7.00 dollars per delivery...one time a month I'll see peak pay before 11.30 pm...I did about 4150 deliverys in 2022
I’ve door dashed for four days now & it really is hit or miss. I would honestly say that only 3 out of 10 customers actually tip. Most of my deliveries were 6 miles or more and no tip. I will not be continuing this much longer.
Decline
The biggest issue I have noticed this week is a serious decline in orders. The Federal Reserve has been trying to slow the economy to reduce inflation and I think people are getting the message to cut down on spending. On Uber Eats in Atlanta area it’s a dramatic drop. However, 90-95% of the previous level of orders weren’t worth taking anyway. I was desperate enough to take a $2.00 order from Chick Filet a half mile. Chick Filet can be fast, especially during non peak hours. I believe the weekend will still be good.
END THE FED
@@vze2fnfg END THE WELFARE! The reason we dropped the gold standard is because morons didn't want to end the welfare. We were running out of gold to back up the dollar so we turned it into a currency that wasn't backed by anything. The government is simply the reflection of the people. Get any politician today for welfare reform and he'll be kicked out of office so fast, basically ending his/her political career.
If you are a dasher and you haven't gotten the master software then you're wasting your time dashing
@@vze2fnfg based
@@hiurh2243 Master software?
If you stack 2 orders on different platforms you need to drop the order that isn't ready if the other order is ready. I average 1 stack cross platform like this once every 3 to 4 hours so it does happen and I have only once been more than 10 minutes late on a drop off and got a contract violation. You just need to be hyper focused at all times of your current delivery route so when another offer on another apps comes in you know right away if you can add it to your route or not. This is the main reason why drivers who run multiple apps make an extra $3-$4 per hour over drivers on just 1 app.
you dont say
you get violations for being more than 10 minutes late? on which app? in my town there is over 30 railway crossings..........a order being an hour late here is normal every day life cause there railyards for this trains stopped blocking the roads can = a 45 minute wait with no way to get to said persons house.
I've been getting contract violations on DD because I'm late to pickup even tho I'm pretty close on drop off time. Because I'm usually also picking up/dropping off on ur at that time. Still new tho. And already getting better about declining. Not taking any more 13mile dead head deliveries 😂
I love the McD’s that are set up for DD because they package the orders up in a sturdy paper bag (including drinks !) & just grab & go !
i been doing DD for going on 3 weeks now and have not received more than 2.25 base pay unless its a stacked order. there is a restaurant i black list on the weekend nights because they will make DD people wait until they serve food to everyone else, drive thru and inside customers first before DD drivers i guess because they get swamped, but when not swamped they are pretty fast about getting the orders to the drivers.
I tried declining bad orders but when my acceptance rate dropped below 50% I ended up getting almost no orders at all. The few I did get were abysmal like $5 for 10 miles or a 14 mile order.
Bro same how do they expect us to get better if they give worse orders 😭
Yeah its crazy when half the orders that pop up its DD base pay no tip and a far drive. I ain't getting that it ain't worth me spending gas for orders that don't even tip. Dashing is good for certain locations some can be non stop others intermittent. My case its been pretty dead since Friday and when it says busy I go do like 2 orders and dead again. Kinda tough when this is all you got while filing over 30 applications for real jobs smh. Literally the shut down was DD hay day.
I don't actually push the decline button. I just let it time out. Seems to make a difference.
@@michelebradley2694 interesting idea
yeah they keep saying "you dont get punished" and are independent contractors... probably not true. I worked for instacart ( just in store ) but so much stuff is crap about them... they lure people in like " oh make your own schedule'" .. no . youre working under management... they expect availability 6 days a week so you can be scheduled so its like any stupid job with a floating schedule and they do schedule random and split up any chance of a weekend. I live in a weird rural / suburban area but right next to the main drag and we have two towns like that within a mile or two of each other... when i look up my zip code to see available participants its like BK / MD ... Dunkin donuts etc. i guess it would be where theyre going because we technically have some boonies around here so i dont know. but thats a bunch of bullshit if they do have a secret system. oh well. I just want to be able to "dash now" and maybe pick up 10 bucks or like 100 bucks in a week i guess for now im just desperate.
Well, if you're doing a stacked order and accidentally click 'confirm delivery' twice, you lose the next person's address, and even if you are a block away from them, doordash won't give it to you, tries to get the customer to meet you somewhere? then tells you to dispose of their food. This happened to me last week and I couldn't stop obsessing over poor Emily missing out on her Chipotle. Uggh.
Always screen capture each order details/customer addresses & on another phone or tablet that hooked on to your mobile Hotspot or phone Google the address, that's what I do & I call tech support. I also tell them I'm recording audio, video, screen capture & screen recording everything when I'm dashing for proof & quality assurance.
Tech support despises that sh!t when you can put them on blast & call them out.
Especially when in extra pay is empty. They will state its there. When it's not. 😂🤣😂🤣🤣
considering depreciation on your car, working at McDonald's is more profit. at least in Cali. except i always round tripped because I didn't want to end up 3 hours away from my starting point at the end of my shift, lol. don't take orders under $7, take orders only if the money to you is double the miles or better, and decline all store shopping orders.
The other day I got an offer for 7.25 for Panera Bread, then got an add on for six bucks. Customer tipped extra so 7.25 became 8.25 then 6 dollar customer tipped 11 bucks and turned the run into twenty bucks instead of 13 and it wasn’t much driving. In my market with little to no peak pay it’s about 20 per hour on a good night and 25 to 30 on a great night. With no bonus pay. Unfortunately the 25 to 30 is more rare than a year ago. It remains being worth keeping the extra stream of income though 👍
I know which restaurants to avoid on Sunday late afternoon to early evening because they get too busy.
A good thing to do if you are multi apping and you get two orders is don't confirm the pickup until you get both orders. I have done it numerous times even with long waits. I have even done Instacart shops (usually only a couple quick items), and wait to confirm the pickup until I have finished the shop. Doordash can't complain too much I have gotten stacked orders of a restaurant and a shop, like Walgreens, and they want you to pickup the food first. You just have to be smart and know your area and the places that they are sending you to. We are all about making money and maximizing the most we can get with our times.
Another pro move, set your apps to only use location while using app and close app when you are going to cut off the path bit then open it back up when you are a bit further from where you left off. It makes it look like you are just stuck in the road on the map😂
@@tska84 😂🎉
Don't usually work during this peak pay times. Consistently make $35-$45/hr depending on day of week and time of day