They affect the pseudo-exalts because they are considered as the same weapon stat increases as mods, essentially placing a flat buff to the stats of the pseudo-exalts as well, which can then be modded to your liking. That's also why incarnon weapons cannot be transformed in Grendel's missions where you cannot use mods, since the first evolution is the ability to transform the weapon.
Pretty sure the mods apply after the incarn buff and affect them the same way they affect base DMG, so it's essentially+30% base crit, which then allows you to red crit.
I remember back then when I got bored and would just look at what stuff I have to play around with and thought, "You know it would be funny to max out the ceramic dagger" funnily enough they made an incarnon of one of forgotten weapons in the game because of how frequent those alerts for this came up back then. Glad to see this ceramic dagger get some love after all those years. Now if they just made dual Seer pistols or dual Stug now that would be a sight to see.
I personally dont like that incarnon guns lose their personality when transformed like the burston incarnon should be the somas transformation, the somas incarnon would better fit the braton and the atomos just getting a blast damage aoe instead of a lingering molten heat dmg aoe is a huge miss for me, same as the synoid gamma core for no reason. incarnons better yes;mostly because of the much needed stat buffs but still sad that much thought wasnt put into them in my opinion. There are a few that hold true to what they are; dual toxocyst, latron, lex, angstrum and gorgon make since but overall i wish theyd change the ones i mentioned to have better flow.
I would say the majority of guns that have incarnons have next to no personality and are basic guns that could appear in any game, the some is just a machine gun, the burston is just a plain old burst rifle
I had a +cc +cd +dmg -projectile speed for Torid. I had it as a meme riven since it slowed the balls down to an almost unusable level. Tossed it to transmute it. I still think about it to this day
I’ve played on and off since 2015 and gara was my first ever frame that I grinded out and farmed so her being good makes me happy that my favorite warframe and first one was a good option.
I heard somewhere the devs are looking into removing pseudo exalteds. Honestly kind of hoping for that and a more customisable system to take its place so we can customise the abilities themselves(although characters WITH exalted weapons should just use those stats rather than a separate weapon affecting it)
It's an effect has been always in the game which we used to call back then a Stat stick, meaning a law use weapon with 5 rivin's disposition which gives the max effect to exalted weapon added to what the exalted weapon already has, since they're both melee weapons and they feed on each other's mods.
Magistar actually is better specifically for crit why simply it can use magus aggress it may only increase ur crit chance by 16 but its worth it since most pseudo exalteds have a base cd of 2 besides gara which is 1
Imo, for khora specifically , magistar is way better since it has higher crit multi than ceramic dagger. My khora + magistar still able to always red crit even without riven, just need to build up combo point, which is like very quick when spamming whipclaw.
I have the Incarnon, I'm just stuck on the last evolution challenge, for the life of me I can't do unaware finishers with it I don't have any frames that go invis either 😮💨
Actually the magistar and mk1 bo are better for this. The magistar normal version gives 16% crit while *also* adding a 1x to your crit multiplier AND it recieves the buff from magus aggress (should be the right arcane?) That adds 350% critical damage. Thats a 3x crit multiplier and an easy 18x modded with that arcane and the 2 available CD mods. Mk1 bo on the other hand gives a ridiculous 38% status chance which can make your slash status with khora immensely easier to proc, or you can recieve 15% of both CC and SC for a more overall stat buff. This doesn't make the ceramic dagger any worse, especially considering you can achieve an 11x initial combo with it, but it certainly puts the stat buffs to shame. So if you do not plan on heavy attacking and can keep your combo up those might be significantly better options.
Yes but for magistar it's best on khora It's better on others if u have another source of crit for like atlas and Gara other wise those would want ceramic instead
@noahedenborg4221 it gives crit, enough to red crit for Atlas, way more than enough for khora, and (the only other one) excal desperately needs the damage buff since 300% CD is exceptionally better than the higher base CC Also, usually, making your crits hit harder is better than higher crit tiers. This is one of those instances.
I use ceramic dagger with the status evolution on atlas with wrathful advance. Now his landslide, an ability with 2.5% crit and status chance, can regularly orange crit and apply multiple status effects per punch...
@@daultumitenub812 I have over 4000 hrs in this game, so I got a phD in this stuff. 😅 Exalted weapons are moddable ability weapons like Excal's 4. Pseudo-exalted weapons are abilities that don't have their own mod slots, but instead scale with Warframe and melee mods + the melee combo counter. Khora is a prime example since her 1st ability is her main damage tool and a "pseudo-exalted weapon." Pseudo-exalted weapons only scale off of certain mods and completely ignore others. This means to get the best damage with these abilities you need to build a "stat stick" AKA a weapon that is built around making the pseudo-exalted do the most damage. Ceramic dagger incarnon comes with built-in bonuses that can affect these abilities on top of what I've already mentioned. This makes it really good on a lot of frames. The pseudo-exalted weapon mechanic is very confusing at 1st, and even veteran players want them to be simplified so players don't have to sacrfice their melee builds to min-max damage.
Stat sticks and pseudos aren't confusing at all lmfao, it's just an ability that draws stats from a weapons mods, and some mods aren't compatible for balancing or coding issues. Mesas peacemakers used to be a psuedo too, that was fun lol
@@kyaii No. You use it wrong. Ability to group enemies together..Livia to gain combo..then use accumulative whipclaw and see them melt. Or maybe irs in my head. Got that from KnightFrame I think.
@@jcja902I lost my trust in KnightFrame the minute he did a build for revenant that focused on survivability when Rev can just use is second ability and become invincible
I hope they truly fix this whacky ass shit, stat stics shouldn´t be a thing imho. But that would also mean als pseudo excaltet etc. need a buff/ rework
@@kyaii True. I see some great weapons sitting in like B tier because they aren't easy to use, require a ton of forma investment, or some other reasons. It's got the popularity contest aspect with builds too. People will use outdated builds because it's the build with the highest score. I only use over frame to get inspiration on how to build a weapon. Builds don't take into consideration other things you might have which usually gives me some more mod slots to work with. The zenistar is in B tier for whatever reason. Everyone is dogging on it because you have to use it differently than when it was meta. You can build combo super quickly and still have it be as effective. And my Nova build doesn't need umbral intensify for power strength because I reach 145% with arcanes, operator ability, and aura mod. I also saved a duration mod slot from a few archon shards.
Incorrect in both as you are better off with something with higher dispo or an augment like amphis or mire especially for gara as crit does nothing for gara
@noahedenborg4221 maybe for khorra, but definitely not gara, and i haven't checked the other physically, but as they aren't affected by crit, it will do nothing for them either
@noahedenborg4221 no it's not I've ran extensive testing, crit does nothing of any value on gara, i have spent more time testing things on gara than you have probably spent playing
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They affect the pseudo-exalts because they are considered as the same weapon stat increases as mods, essentially placing a flat buff to the stats of the pseudo-exalts as well, which can then be modded to your liking. That's also why incarnon weapons cannot be transformed in Grendel's missions where you cannot use mods, since the first evolution is the ability to transform the weapon.
Pretty sure the mods apply after the incarn buff and affect them the same way they affect base DMG, so it's essentially+30% base crit, which then allows you to red crit.
@@divinefox4306 Yeah that's what I meant, same thing just different, correct terminology lol
I’m their passives and tips they use the equipped melee weapons as a stat stick to base the damage of off
Literally just did this thinking like Onos, Hate, or Burston will get the job done...NOPE I made it but felt like I was crawling to the extraction.
I remember back then when I got bored and would just look at what stuff I have to play around with and thought, "You know it would be funny to max out the ceramic dagger" funnily enough they made an incarnon of one of forgotten weapons in the game because of how frequent those alerts for this came up back then. Glad to see this ceramic dagger get some love after all those years. Now if they just made dual Seer pistols or dual Stug now that would be a sight to see.
I personally dont like that incarnon guns lose their personality when transformed like the burston incarnon should be the somas transformation, the somas incarnon would better fit the braton and the atomos just getting a blast damage aoe instead of a lingering molten heat dmg aoe is a huge miss for me, same as the synoid gamma core for no reason. incarnons better yes;mostly because of the much needed stat buffs but still sad that much thought wasnt put into them in my opinion. There are a few that hold true to what they are; dual toxocyst, latron, lex, angstrum and gorgon make since but overall i wish theyd change the ones i mentioned to have better flow.
I would say the majority of guns that have incarnons have next to no personality and are basic guns that could appear in any game, the some is just a machine gun, the burston is just a plain old burst rifle
seer not happening cuz it had kuva ver. but stug might happen
I tried it and at first instance I felt like ceramic dagger was too short of a blade😂. But got buffer with the Incarnon adapter.
Agreed, i even have 2 riven for it, one cc cd dmg -heavy efficiency and the other initial combo, dmg
Damn those are worth at least 5-8k plat
@@BusinessGoat99what?!
@@BusinessGoat99those are not good rolls...
@@CarpetFTWthe first roll is good (atksp instead of cc is probably groll status), second not so much.
Your tripping balls @@CarpetFTW
Kullervo with 400% crit chance as an ability: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power.
Gara with the status chance evolution on ceramic dagger and subsumed wrathful advance over her 3 to crit slash procs on her 4's nuke.
The problem is I'm almost never on the game when that Incarnon specifically is available 💀
Ceramic dagger is avail rn
@@rsgryuotom9258 You won't believe this but...
It’s also available rn lol
Still available just expensive af
again, available now
That pose at the start was lethal
The feels when I think of the time I scrapped my ceramic dagger riven because I thought I'd never use it..........
I had a +cc +cd +dmg -projectile speed for Torid. I had it as a meme riven since it slowed the balls down to an almost unusable level. Tossed it to transmute it. I still think about it to this day
I’ve played on and off since 2015 and gara was my first ever frame that I grinded out and farmed so her being good makes me happy that my favorite warframe and first one was a good option.
Magistar is better with khora because it also gives crit damage as well but the almost infinite 12x melee combo is insane
Not to mention the CD bug with heavy melees making it her best weapon
@@nezzysanyep sure is buddy 😘
As much as i like incaron weapons, i just cant switch off of dark split sword, if an incarnon for that beauty comes out i will be so happy
What mr are you?
@@lordt0xlc863 if my memory serves me right its 27 but ive been playin since the second dream released
@@DrakaDakra oh I been on since release almost
Just hoping for the day they make Dark Split Sword its own melee type, utilizing dual and heavy sword attacks in its combos…
I use Volnus Prime with Gara
I heard somewhere the devs are looking into removing pseudo exalteds. Honestly kind of hoping for that and a more customisable system to take its place so we can customise the abilities themselves(although characters WITH exalted weapons should just use those stats rather than a separate weapon affecting it)
Your knowledge of Warframe. Is most impressive..
It's an effect has been always in the game which we used to call back then a Stat stick, meaning a law use weapon with 5 rivin's disposition which gives the max effect to exalted weapon added to what the exalted weapon already has, since they're both melee weapons and they feed on each other's mods.
we still call them stat sticks and yes, I'm aware of how they work 😭
I just wanted to say I admire your fashion might be stealing that look 😂🤙💯
Having a riven with over 300cc alongside other mods for cc puts my ceramic dagger at +500% crit. Perfect for tier 3/4 red crits for my Khora
I waited so long for nightwave to sell it just to not have enough cred, now i have to wait again
It's available this week if you haven't gotten it yet.
Bro I sold my ceramic dagger blueprint for credits😢
Magister begs to differ in 14 different languages.
@@WD_724 yeaaaaa, didn't know when I made this 🤷♂️
@@kyaii ah fair
Magistar actually is better specifically for crit why simply it can use magus aggress it may only increase ur crit chance by 16 but its worth it since most pseudo exalteds have a base cd of 2 besides gara which is 1
ok azn
@@kyaiithe math dont lie
So that's why the BDSM queen Khora does so much damage with her exalted weapon.. I was wondering why I was doing a lot of red crit damage lol
Atlas since echoes of duviri: one punch man
your khora fashion matches my mesa bloodborne fashion :-)
its also the best melee on ash as it allows him to infinitely hold high combo for boosting his bladestorm damage
I got a riven for this dagger with 200+ crit chance, 150+ dmg. It slaps with Khora, i need to test it on atlas now.
for incarnon wepons, magistar for khora and mk1-bo for gara
Magistar is crazy even with a stat stick setup ngl
Imo, for khora specifically , magistar is way better since it has higher crit multi than ceramic dagger. My khora + magistar still able to always red crit even without riven, just need to build up combo point, which is like very quick when spamming whipclaw.
The perfect loop does exist 😂
I do kinda hate they changed the look of it a while back though.. I loved it looking like an actual ceramic kitchen knife, instead of a short sword.
Is this the hit YTuber kyaii??
nah, different guy
Yeah, Ceramic dagger is so flexible... It also works with Atlas as a stat stick... It's Covering Time
I have the Incarnon, I'm just stuck on the last evolution challenge, for the life of me I can't do unaware finishers with it
I don't have any frames that go invis either 😮💨
Get a pet that make u invisible like shade or one of the kubrows
i dont have magistar, and i dont know how it performs, so for now this is my best heavy slam weapon
I only noticed that yesterday when my gara's abilities were procing viral
Actually the magistar and mk1 bo are better for this. The magistar normal version gives 16% crit while *also* adding a 1x to your crit multiplier AND it recieves the buff from magus aggress (should be the right arcane?) That adds 350% critical damage. Thats a 3x crit multiplier and an easy 18x modded with that arcane and the 2 available CD mods.
Mk1 bo on the other hand gives a ridiculous 38% status chance which can make your slash status with khora immensely easier to proc, or you can recieve 15% of both CC and SC for a more overall stat buff.
This doesn't make the ceramic dagger any worse, especially considering you can achieve an 11x initial combo with it, but it certainly puts the stat buffs to shame. So if you do not plan on heavy attacking and can keep your combo up those might be significantly better options.
Yes but for magistar it's best on khora
It's better on others if u have another source of crit for like atlas and Gara other wise those would want ceramic instead
@noahedenborg4221 it gives crit, enough to red crit for Atlas, way more than enough for khora, and (the only other one) excal desperately needs the damage buff since 300% CD is exceptionally better than the higher base CC
Also, usually, making your crits hit harder is better than higher crit tiers. This is one of those instances.
When listing the frames you forgot to mention excaliburs slash dash
About to get mine in five minutes cant wait
I use ceramic dagger with the status evolution on atlas with wrathful advance. Now his landslide, an ability with 2.5% crit and status chance, can regularly orange crit and apply multiple status effects per punch...
Skana forever❤
That loop was clean 🤌
Not evey frame has exalts so maybe glaive is faster and better some times
But i agree that dagger can be crazy
I'm gonna start doing steelpath stuff when I'm mr30 😂
MR doesn't mean much, you can start pretty much anytime you want once you feel ready to invest hours into building your arsenal properly for it
@@suguaakini4478 oh i know, I just didn't really care for it or knew what kind of useful stuff it could give like the incarnon stuff
Ceramic dagger for Gara.
Magista for Khora and/or general use.
I actually love the ceramic dagger and I've had to explain to my friends that it's actually more busted than they realize they still don't believe me
The pseudo exhalded should be reworked af.
Talking about infinite red crits while showing zero red crits takes some balls 😂😂
Don’t worry I only have to wait until til February to finish your khora build 😭😭
Melee crescendo
This arcane pretty much makes any of the incarnon melees do this.
Requires you to get finishers though and is incredibly rare / expensive
As it turns out, more base stats = busted
Damn, I just got a riven for this recently
Damn i missed the ceramic dagger week
It's on now
Might as well, I wanted to get atlas out o the basement for a while now.
I made the other version of gara but not the prime one bc I don’t have the blueprints for it
Subsume wrathful advance, you just turn ceramic dagger into a deadly weapon to every single warframe available
Magistar seems like a better choice
yeaaaa i just didnt know at the time lol
Excal 1 gets affected too
i am struggling with not the incarnon adapter but the base blueprint because nora wont run it
edit nevermind
excal 1 always forgotten
So... does it affect the rock thrown by atlas in his garoyle form ?
Why was Citrine censored 💀
no red crits. LOL!
Hold up wait I need that
Me who havnt even unlocked steel path or has good mods/weapons to do em
I'll stick to my orvius thank you.
Good thing I got it
I UNDERSTAND NOTHING!!! But it looks cool🥸👌
I've been playing warframe for a hundred hours and nothing understood here as well like the hell
It’s okay I don’t understand either 🥲
@@daultumitenub812 I have over 4000 hrs in this game, so I got a phD in this stuff. 😅
Exalted weapons are moddable ability weapons like Excal's 4. Pseudo-exalted weapons are abilities that don't have their own mod slots, but instead scale with Warframe and melee mods + the melee combo counter. Khora is a prime example since her 1st ability is her main damage tool and a "pseudo-exalted weapon."
Pseudo-exalted weapons only scale off of certain mods and completely ignore others. This means to get the best damage with these abilities you need to build a "stat stick" AKA a weapon that is built around making the pseudo-exalted do the most damage.
Ceramic dagger incarnon comes with built-in bonuses that can affect these abilities on top of what I've already mentioned. This makes it really good on a lot of frames.
The pseudo-exalted weapon mechanic is very confusing at 1st, and even veteran players want them to be simplified so players don't have to sacrfice their melee builds to min-max damage.
@@Awesomeficationify there should be a separate goddamn uni major for this the hell he saying
Stat sticks and pseudos aren't confusing at all lmfao, it's just an ability that draws stats from a weapons mods, and some mods aren't compatible for balancing or coding issues.
Mesas peacemakers used to be a psuedo too, that was fun lol
We back in 2014 with this one
wha
@@kyaii ceramic dagger is top of the melee meta in warframe again, although for different reasons (crit vs coptering). 🕺🏾
😭 just game my riven away oh well im up
I just got it but now i need to get the original weapon
for gara 2 ability jaw sword is still better with melee cresendo.
I still prefer the Prisma Skana Incarnon.
I personally prefer the magistar incarnon for stat stick and nearly always i one shot all enemies and with atlas i one-shot the acolytes
Sold mine long ago 💀
So this affects diwata titania's exalted sword?
I use Tenet Livia. No Riv mad red crits + built in combo save. Perfect Khora/Garra Stat stick. Add a riv and its over kill.
the combo doesn't save when using pseudos, your losing damage
@@kyaii No. You use it wrong. Ability to group enemies together..Livia to gain combo..then use accumulative whipclaw and see them melt. Or maybe irs in my head. Got that from KnightFrame I think.
It quite literally does not work. Just read the wiki and it says it clear as day
@@kyaii 👍
@@jcja902I lost my trust in KnightFrame the minute he did a build for revenant that focused on survivability when Rev can just use is second ability and become invincible
Absolute overkill for nothing
Magistar better bc inate + 1x cd multiplier is far better on gaara atlas and khora than a flat cc
Been known
Isn't this literally just the concept behind stat sticks?
Noob question but how can we get incarnon weapon
Best stat stick, not best melee, that's like considering the Bramma a bow.
Atlas red crit :3
I hope they truly fix this whacky ass shit, stat stics shouldn´t be a thing imho. But that would also mean als pseudo excaltet etc. need a buff/ rework
just make them all exalted and give us exalted rivens, whipclaw disposition would even itself out
Can i still get the ceramic dagger? I once had it but i sold it from inventory before the incarnation thing
Easiest way to get incarnon ceramic. GO!
Is nikana a good melee(im not talking about Nex nikana)
@Averageperson-1d yea it's fine, Dex or Prime is better
Imagine saying this shit like 2 years ago (or at any other point starting from 2013)
Just realized i had a unrolled riven for this, should i sell it like this or roll it ?
Does it affect baruuk?
How do you get it?
So ceramic dagger is better than magistar?
W incarnon, bruh
i think status chanche is better for whipclaw need those slashes
For a slash build pry not tbh
For a corrosive build even less so
Tragic how pathetically low that mesa damage is...
Yeah it's not like I can pick it up!
Fuck why is it locked in the nightwave rotation??
You sound exactly like another youtube channel, do you have multiple channels?
nah
Why are incarnons not listed on the overframe tier list?
idk but overframe tier lists SUCK
@@kyaii True. I see some great weapons sitting in like B tier because they aren't easy to use, require a ton of forma investment, or some other reasons. It's got the popularity contest aspect with builds too. People will use outdated builds because it's the build with the highest score.
I only use over frame to get inspiration on how to build a weapon. Builds don't take into consideration other things you might have which usually gives me some more mod slots to work with.
The zenistar is in B tier for whatever reason. Everyone is dogging on it because you have to use it differently than when it was meta. You can build combo super quickly and still have it be as effective. And my Nova build doesn't need umbral intensify for power strength because I reach 145% with arcanes, operator ability, and aura mod. I also saved a duration mod slot from a few archon shards.
How do you get those incarnon weapons? I have all the ones Cavalero sells but just those.
Steel Path circuit
Its not the best melee but the best stat stick :>
Incorrect in both as you are better off with something with higher dispo or an augment like amphis or mire especially for gara as crit does nothing for gara
@@ShugoAWayno actually ur wrong
Because the perks are way better then rivens which ceramic has quite a high dispo for
@noahedenborg4221 maybe for khorra, but definitely not gara, and i haven't checked the other physically, but as they aren't affected by crit, it will do nothing for them either
@@ShugoAWay gara 1 is effect by crit u pepega
@noahedenborg4221 no it's not I've ran extensive testing, crit does nothing of any value on gara, i have spent more time testing things on gara than you have probably spent playing
Nah, I'd glaive prime
I love this because this weapon was the definition of ass before