2Pac & Stretch made great songs like "Under Pressure", "Pain". "God Bless The Dead". And countless others. Really great tracks that stand the test of time. Live Squad was dope on their own too. Their "Game Of Survival" material. The Grand Imperial stuff, E-Moneybags & Majesty. Thugadons... all dope stuff.
Sincere The God facts!! Us as Pac fans gotta quit acting like Pac was this person that couldn’t do no wrong, he was human asf, he did a lot of wrong shit and it’s okay to be wrong, doesn’t make me hate or love Pac any less. It actually shows me know how human he was.
@@BigWilt2000 one day your going to realize 2Pac got jerked every record deal he signed, and had to pay for lawyer fees on consignment. He generated money as a great artist, but was a broke businessman. Help who?
I appreciate Ed keepin’ it 100 without having to talk down on Pac. You get the sense that Ed loved and respected Pac but disagreed with him on a certain situation and stands on that. I can see why Suge told him he respected him. It’s the ones who speak differently depending on who they’re around that you can’t trust. Even if Pac is gone, if you feel he was wrong you still say he was wrong but in a way that doesn’t disrespect Pac if you claim to have had love for him. That’s exactly what I get from Ed. Great interview.
Nuttin people haven't been sayin for years. Ed just got that respect cuz he been in the game and knew all the greats from our era. Pac the revolutionary was a proud black icon, that other ish to me has always been a persona. Sharp ass young mind, but still young smh. Every action has a reaction. That action he took in Vegas sealed his fate.
You right I’m on that level too no matter who person is they need to be told they are wrong it’s grown up wise interaction humanity Ed humble man hope his well 🤲🏼🤲🏼✨
He's not lying about walking through Newark and shopping freely downtown. I remember seeing Ed Lover downtown solo a couple times when I was in high school, back in like '96/'97. Ed seems like a solid guy. It sounds like nothing, but for a known guy in the entertainment space to walk Newark freely that wasn't from there was extremely rare. That was a dangerous thing to do for most celebs, still is.
You just said how feared, connected and respected stretch was. So when no resistance was put up by anyone. And robber's say get and everybody hit the floor. PAC like damn seams awfully funny. Like a fuckin set up
@James Miller if you had a homie 25 years try to mend that bro unless its totally unrepairable. These cats today ain't built like the cats were back then. That would've been a real homie before all this fake shyt. But then again maybe he's fake too now.
@@lordfriezachrist6546 you're obsessed with 2Pac like Frieza is obsessed with Saiyans. Lol just admit you're gay already bro! Nothing wrong with that it'll make you feel better lol
Easy for Ed to say. Ed wasn't the one that was robbed, he wasn't the one that was shot, he wasn't the one that went to jail for other people's actions, and everyone wasn't bad mouthing Ed while he was locked away like Pac.
What did any of those things have to do with stretch? Zayd? BiG? Nickels? Puff? 3 of them got robbed with you, one of them got shot at the same time, one of them have a baby with pacs sister.. you think its rational and acceptable to push blame on everyone you see? I have never heard or seen any motive whatsover.. No back story for why they would do something as crazy as that. Thats not a small thing to do, that shit would be known afterwards, and their loot would have been known. What happened, nothing. Pacs family was still hanging with all of them, pacs friends was hanging with them. The only person who believed that shit was pac. Kinda strange dont you think?
People gotta understand how young Pac was too. He died at 25 Ed taking about situations even before that do Pac was only like 22/23. He was still young learning making mistakes. Imagine the shit we all did at 22 especially if we would had been rich n famous
Stretch was killed a year later after the quad shooting, the exact same date. Pacs opening verse on holla at me is about Stretch and on against all odds Pac says 'and that nigga that was down for me resting dead, switch sides guess his new friends wanted him dead'
No mention of the fact that Dexter Issac, who admitted to being part of the crew that shot 2Pac in Quad Studio, said that it was Stretch who was giving them updates on their whereabouts and that he did so for 1/4 kilo from Henchman (who was ultimately behind the shooting)?
Dexter Issac lied it was East New York dudes who were paid by jimmy henchmen to do the robbery. Ayanna Jackson’s prom date bought the jewelry from the robbers his name is P-nut from bed-stuy Brooklyn he was in the get money video with lil Kim
True I think the same thing too a 25 year man is like a 18 year old mentally men take ages to grown mentally be responsible be careful who around them especially in that rap street life that isn’t safe
Never because they never went through it and they all look at him as a actor then they wanna blame suge as if pac wasn’t already declaring them enemies before he signed with death row in actuality suge start beefing with puff over pac not the other way around
Tupac standpoint is this: Pac was hanging around dudes that people told him to avoid. He was trying to impress street dudes and earn credibility with them by emulating their lifestyle and it backfired on him. When BIG, Mike Tyson, Ed Lover and Treach warn you about dudes you fucking with-- you might wanna listen.
Holla at me was a subliminal diss at stretch, Pac never dissed his NAME for reasons I ain’t gonna say but iykyk, AND Pac got at em on against all odds too. Stretch was apart of the set up in 94
@@ZYaKnoe249 Pac was wrong though, I totally agree with Ed because if that was the other way around and he didn't show up to Pac funeral, Hardcore Pac fans would have came at Stretch crazy. I rock with Pac but he was wrong
Tupac died in fucking 96, a lil bit over a year after the quad shooting...and in 96, it wasn't social media, and some dudes didn't do interviews over real street beefs or disagreements...so he probably was talking his talk, but we just didn't know about it...ed grew up around real street dudes that didn't do the limelight chats like pac did...I say all that to say this, dudes wasn't scared to talk about pac, all that "they scared of me in the physical form" shit, y'all buy that bullshit? They were scared of pac? Lmao....y'all delusional word up
@@MultiKadafi that's not the point, the point is they talked shit before he died too ..even had his shit poked in in prison...as a matter of fact, I think after he died is when everybody started praising him, even enemies... nobody reallybtaljed shit after he died besides a handful
That's how they really started beefing and Pac was wrong for that. He got mad when Stretch responded. Pac wasn't in touch with Reality with that situation. It's 4 of them with 2 Gunmen. if Stretch would have tried to take down one of them, somebody definitely gonna get shot or killed by the other one. They don't talk about how Stretch boy Nickels got shot from Pac reaching. They got the drop, Pac almost got himself killed trying to play hero. I Really Rock With Pac but I gotta be real, my dude didn't handle that whole situation correctly. That one situation turned into alot of shit, it didn't have to.
Ed Lover has more credibility than anyone commenting on this video. We all need to face it: Tupac was fucked up mentally and lot of people died and went to jail over nothing--on both coasts.
@@Tom120x3 like i said, the guilt from introducing Pac to stretch in the first place. Stretch own brother didnt know strech sold out Pac. Ed didnt know, Nas didnt know but Pac did. People just sticking to their story that's all they have no personal knowledge.
Ed Lover once again is leaving stuff out stretch was going alot of shady shit at that time 1 he got on radio and said pac shot him self 2 he was delivering messages to pac from jimmy henchmen (the guy who set pac up to be robbed) but you suppose to be pac homie tho? 3 when Tupac was in rikers stretch tried to talk to pacs girl pacs ex confirmed this in a recent interview And pac never said big set him up he said he believed big knew what was about to go down and let it happen because big was scared of jimmy and them that's why pac start saying fear is stronger than love
@@bornreadytrill you weren’t there so stfu speaking on other people’s experience you bozo. You never there niggas always got something to say stfu you dayroom.
@@JKorver not tryna get in y'all back and forth, but I did see an interview from Napoleon from the Outlaws (who is a humble Muslim now) and he said he was there when Stretch walked in and delivered the Jimmy Henchmen message don't go to war unless you got your money right
But the part that is left out is they said stretch gave the shooters tupac location all that evening. One of the dudes say it was for coke, they originally just wanted to teach pac a lesson but when tupac clutched his pistol they went for the kill. This the story they don’t tell
I hate how 25 years in, people still find ways to bad mouth Pac. The Outlawz confirmed that after the shooting Jimmy Henchman sent Stretch to deliver a message to Pac (or Pac's remaining homeboys) about Pac not being ready for a war. Perhaps Stretch wasnt involved in the shooting, but he was far from neutral. Maybe now you'll understand what pac meant when he was rapping about Stretch' new friends on 'Against all odds'.
Naw G , Dre is cool 😎 I will always have love and respect for him , they are the ones that started it back in the day , then basically greedy MTV stole from them and cancelled there show because they didn't want to pay them
@katobskonningit to be fair Dr Dre does deserve his due and has been around major instances where his contributions was overlooked. Also the man has amputee and blindness he going through things. I guarantee we all can learn from his book involving hip hop hidden history from his perspectives
Stretch was killed right after dropping off Nas at his crib after the recording sessions for Take It In Blood. Nas spoke on it on Queens Story. Stretch was killed minutes after he pulled off
Stretch had nothing to do with Pac getting shot. Pac admitted in his interview that he just felt hurt that Stretch didn't react the way he felt he should have after the robbers pulled out their guns on him. No one wants to keep it funky and just say Pac felt embarrassed and was just looking for someone to blame by saying Stretch and Biggie set him up.
Stretch and Biggie were the main ones telling Pac not to fool around with Haitian Jack. Pac put a target on his back by bashing Jack in the press when he caught that rape charge. Jimmy and other street dudes were telling Stretch that Pac was crossing the line. Then Pac gets robbed and shot and then says Stretch was playing both sides by telling him what they were saying. Stretch would've been foul for not telling Pac.
Pac was human. Trust me, had he lived to see his 40's even he'd say he was wildin a bit. Thats expected when you in ya 20's. He use to talk bad about his biological father bad on his 1st few albums...but noticed he stopped after awhile because they reconciled. His mother had a little to do with the way things went left between them. Hes still living btw and met Biggie apparently too. That part about the gun in the piano was the same thing Lil Shawn said in a different interview. "Actually, ya man passed the gat to me." -Big
@@jcrockoo7 Bro a bad relationship with your father is very different than making amends with someone who tried to rob you or kill you, this is what Stretch was affiliated
Truth the fact Stretch was relaying messages saying "they said dont go to war unless you get ya money right" proves he was down with the niggaz who made the hit
@@RLO26 maybe big shouldn’t have dropped who shot ya while pac was locked up...and maybe Haitian jack shouldn’t been a snitch to begin with setting pac up its pure cointelpro
He not talking bout how stretch trying to holla at pac girl while he was locked up? Yo brother can become ur worst enemy if he's envious of who u are and your life style.
No disrespect but Pac was knocking down a few people Ladies and was cool with their boyfriends or Husband. Stretch tried to holla at his side chick, not his wife.
@Joshua Mezza Word is Bond I said the same thing. He was cool with Bobby Brown, Andre Rison, and KC from Jodeci but it didn't stop him from knocking down Whitney, Mary J, and Left Eye. The girl that Pac was messing with that accused Stretch at coming at her said she met Pac while he was with Bobby Brown. So Pac should of respect the game....
@@lordfriezachrist6546 Naw pac still hunting all these cats in they dreams. They hate hearing his name associated with legendary that's all get over it lor fella
He's lying, now Pac ain't mess with nobody in NY, but had Buck Shot and Greg Nice out there in the West and others.. Pac felt how he felt and that's that
@@Scoe91Til He the nigga who was shot, so it's about him period, Ed just said they BOTH got laid down.. But Pac the only on shot and Stretch relaying messages INSTEAD OF BEING MAD HE WAS LAID DOWN TOO, WHILE THEY SHOT HIS HOMIE... 😆😁🤣 come on now where they do that.. these niggaz wanted Pac to act like dudes Dad in Friday when Debo took the bike.. "told you not to be hanging with these real gangsters" instead of fuck that they shot and robbed me its on.
@Carlos Wehi yep and Pac has many songs on recorded on Death Row with NY rappers Boot Camp Click, Big Daddy Kane, Greg Nice just to name some and planned on working with many more on the One Nation project
Biggie -Long Kiss Goodnight, The Ugliest, Stop Yappin, and if "who shot ya" wasn't for him he shoulda never blew on the dice and said it in Jay z video and came out with the song at that time he came out with it, Biggie is smart and a clever rapper, why come out with the song at that time.
The outlawz were still kids when Pac was hanging in Jersey with Naughty and the only on that was in Jersey at that was Kadafi Pac didn't meet Fatal and Mutah til 94/95
I love Pac. One of my favorite artists all time. But Big didn't set him up. He was bugging and paranoid after getting shot at Quad. The streets know what happened and so did Pac. He caused a whole riot about it but other people got shot too and was still in the streets when he left for LA with Suge after coming home. Y'all should have a little more respect for the dead. RIP Pac, Stretch, E-Money bags, Big and a whole lot more everyone don't know about.
@@nujerusalemtv809 I never said he said that. But the same way you implied that's what I said is the same way people implied what Pac was saying in that Vibe interview. Thanks for making my point
@@MrGwokgetter “I love Pac. One of my favorite artists all time. But Big didn’t set him up” is exactly what you said. verbatim…Lmmfaoooo…dude, Pac never said Big had anything to do with what happened at Quad. Never. Ever. Pac was bugging, he was noid, but what happened at Quad happened. People come down too hard on Pac about certain thing’s, not absolving him from his actions, choices and decisions sometimes forgetting Pac was a conflicted, talented, lost 23-24 yr old individual R.I.Paradise Bag’s, Pac, Fe, Stretch, Syke, Yak, Fatal, Johnny J, Lando, Nate, Badazz, and all the fallen king’s no longer here with us in the physical
Nothing against what he's saying but tupac already mentioned why he felt dude set him up in the sway interview. Pac talks about him in "holla at me". And also when he says in against all odds. Switch sides guess his new friends wanted him dead. Also I think in a vlad treach interview and in 2pac vibe interview he says that stretch came back after that saying all they wanted was your jewelry, why didn't you just give it up or sumn like that . Check into it
If you listen closely to holla at me I believe pac was talkin about the industry not jus an actual person. Especially that first verse. He was talking about the game and the ppl within in he tied himself to
@@namelesswonder4651 wish pac was here to explain, I remember all this off the first official hearing of the tape. Not even pushing forward past years of hearing and everything unraveling. He was sending those messages for u to hear and understand then, but his interview with sway really lays it down on the whole situation
People be trying 2 down play Pac rep. Pac died a shooter. If u never shot no one, your not on Pacs level. So all the trolls in the comments need to STFU.
Pac was an Actor. Professionally trained. He was playing a role. He couldn't get out of that character. No dis just being real. If Pac was alive he would admit it. He got caught up. Happens to the best of em...
Been 24 yrs and Ed still bitter over Pac not going to Stretch funeral... that’s definitely hate for him to still feel like that about Pac after so many years...
Stretch was tryna get at Jasmine Guy & that other woman Tupac was talking to, That godfather shit went out the window when “Holla At Me” came out, when Tupac was locked up.
I never understood how a Rapper that toured across the US did not have an ID. Like seriosly. I hear that argument from the live squad about having no ID. Yes, I understand pre 9-11 you could fly without ID, but I am sure this guy had some identification. If not, why not go to the dmv and get one? Pac was locked up for nearly a year. You could of not gotten a ID in that time period? Also, some prisons allow convicted felons to visit. I'm sure Clinton correctional had a rule in place
@Lamar Brown exactly. Something just does not add up. No wonder dude skipped the funeral. You say your innocent but than you act like you forgot the dude was in jail. No saying stretch set him up, but dude really left him to rot in jail
@@sincerethegod325 From the interviews and articles I've read The shooter Dexter Isaac said Stretch was "In cahoots and was giving us the play by play." And was giving a quarter brick for setting up Pac by Jimmy Henchman. Stretch also delivered the message from Henchman That he better get his money right before going to war with him. That Pac later mentions on Makaveli. Stretch was also killed on the one year anniversary of setting up Pac. Seems more than a coincidence 🤷♂️.... I hate the narrative that Pac was crazy. Pac knew what happened and who set him up. And what he was saying on Makaveli lines up with the facts that have come out over the years
@@illson2019 Soon as you said Dexter Isaac, I know you didn't look more into that. That story he told didn't make sense at All. Plus once I got more of the story from people who was there at Quad studios, I knew his story was some bullshit...Pull Up Interviews from infominds on Majesty, Zayd (Pac brother n law) and Lil Shawn. Then tell me what you get out of Dexter Isaac Story
How was he hating? He was kicking some real shit Don't know how anyone can take that interview as Hate. He had Love for dude but was disappointed on how he handled that situation knowing the truth.
@@sincerethegod325 BECAUSE IT'S 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY.... JASMINE GUY, WHO HAD A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH PAC... RECENTLY DID AN INTERVIEW THE OTHER DAY AND SAID BIG STRETCH WAS TRYING TO FLIRT WITH PAC GIRL WHILE HE WAS IN PRISON .... OBVIOUSLY PAC AND STRETCH HAD A FALL OUT AND ED LOVER ON HIS NEW YORK BIAS SHIT INSTEAD OF SEEING IT FROM PAC POINT OF VIEW
Ed & Dre were role models for me growing up in Texas. They were Just cool as fuck and funny. In '89 i was 10 and watched them all the way through til the end when i was 16. They never mentioned anything about race or ever judged anyone base on race. I saw a documentary on YO! where Ed Lover was saying all he ever wanted was Hip Hop to be for everyone regardless of race. Just 2 Cool Ass Down To Earth Guys. Much Love for Both
These pac fans or conspiracy theorists can say what they want, but I believe Ed lover is talking facts! This man really knew PAC and spent time with him...all of you never even met the guy 🤦🏿♂️ I get it though, people can’t accept that PAC was wrong
In Pacs defense: 1. If you my man and I’m in jail, I’m not tryna hear you can’t see my bcuz of no ID! That’s BS 2. Pac felt like BIG, Puffy and others at the Quad knew it was going down and didn’t warm him... so Stretch hanging with them afterwards was kinda shady! If that’s your true friend, then my enemies are your enemies. 3. Stretch was delivering messages from Jimmy Henchman like it was cool 4. Stretch was tryna holla at one of Pacs girls while he was in jail! 5. When Pac got shot, Stretch & his boys didn’t wanna go to war with Haitian Jack & Jimmy Henchman... & to Pac if you was afraid or scary he didn’t fuck witchu
Pac cursed out Henchmen on the phone and Henchmen felt dissed so to teach Pac a lesson he set him up to be robbed. Puff, Harrell, and Stretch knew it was going to go down but Big didnt.
@@TheTrut416Big knew who the shooters were and him and PAC being close he never let PAC know ,when them niggas from Wutang got robbed in the Bay Area in Cali PAC found out who did it called the niggas up and make them niggas have a sit down where to jewelry was handed back over now do your homework on that ,when someone coming from out of town especially if u know they be chilling with u and ur not from the area u suppose to make sure they’re life isn’t in danger and if anything happens to them u suppose to provide them with info so they could know how to get their shit back or they get back or shit even peace shit out depending on the situation
Ed is an OG, but he's sounding naive right now. No man on the face of the planet would freely associate with a neighbourhood and its crew after been shot ... and being denied requests for the identities of the shooters. Pac, in his interviews said he asked these cats "give me a name" or "put me in touch with who did it" ... like he did for Wu-Tang when their chain got snatched. BIG and his people couldn't do that. Given the above, can anyone blame him for being paranoid ?
Pac knew right away Henchman and Jack were behind it. They wanted to manage him as an artist and he declined in a cocky and disrespectful manner. When dealing with real G's and killers, respect has to be at the highest levels; Tupac was known for not having a filter and speaking with no respect.
Pac shot 11/30/1994 Stretch murder 11/30/1995 🔥🔥*** shrugs ***🔥🔥 "Switch sides guess his new friends wanted him dead" If those dates are a coincidence... Aight... If U say so
Sheesh. That's a cold ass line. One thing that people have to respect about Pac is that he feared no man when it came to speaking his mind. He did not hold his tongue at all.
@@r.johnson1170 yea it took me years to figure out he was talking about stretch in that. That is a real reason why nas cried when he first heard against all odds. Stretch was his bro
Reggie Wright already made it public Death Row Compton Piru executed Stretch for Pac and it had nothing to do with Streatch ''street life'' like those NY dudes would like you to believe. Hold that L NY
"Hold that L NY" Do you realize how corny you sound? Like dudes that fuck up don't get clipped just about anywhere in the damn world lol everybody takes a L whether it's Compton, NY, or timbuktu 🤦🏻♂️
This is like the 7th person I've heard from NYC that told PAC to stay away from jimmy & them grimey niggas ....yet a tupac stan will always have some way to blame everyone else
@@Crypto_nino napoleon said stretch came to pac while recovering to tell him that was a warning and don't retaliate til you get your money right . That's being super disloyal. Why they feel alright to tell stretch ??
@@reginaldcrain4428 no! That was some sound advice actually....Pac money was not right at the time to go to war with those guys.....they were actually lacing Pacs pockets which is why he was rolling with them.....stretch was a street nigga from queens and so was those niggas & they had stretch held at gun point just like they had Pac Held at gun point.....you do the math....that was a queens stick up crew who was not to be played with
ED, you have love for Stretch. But if someone tries to set you up... even if you grew up together... all bets are off. Even in Godfather 2 when Fredo set up Micheal Corleone, "his own brother", the relationship changed for ever. They had the mom by the way.
That's the whole point to his story, Stretch didn't set Pac up. I rock with Pac heavy but we gotta be real with that. Pac knew who he had beef with and who had him come to that studio. Period...I totally agree with everything Ed said, especially after getting even more info about the situation from people that was actually there and had conversations with Pac. my dude handled that wrong.
@@sincerethegod325 Stretch relying messages from the enemy, trying to fuck Pac's girls behind his back, on interviews saying he only got shot once... that's a opp
@@thisislaflaretv5250 Pull up the interviews. On infominds. Majesty, Lil Shawn, and Zayd (Pac brother n Law). Tells the whole story. He was more or so calling Dexter Isaac a liar about him being there and him accusing Stretch of setting Pac up. It's always more to the story. I rock with Pac but his word not law to me. I like to hear everybody version.
Nobody seems to question Caesar hanging out the window and hollering at Tupac. If Tupac could hear him, then the guys from the ground floor would to. I wanna know if Caesar was doing this often, hollering out the window when guests would appear to record with him or it was just with Tupac.
2Pac & Stretch made great songs like "Under Pressure", "Pain". "God Bless The Dead". And countless others. Really great tracks that stand the test of time. Live Squad was dope on their own too. Their "Game Of Survival" material. The Grand Imperial stuff, E-Moneybags & Majesty. Thugadons... all dope stuff.
Also "Representin 4 Ron G"
Thnks
Well said.
Preach! People need to know these names.
Hellrazor
Switch sides I guess his new friends wanted him dead R.I.P. Makaveli
It wasnt switching sides. He tried to stay neutral. He knew biggie aint have nothing to do with pac getting shot
@@youngbravo Facts!! Pac handled that wrong and I rock with Pac but he was wrong.
Sincere The God facts!! Us as Pac fans gotta quit acting like Pac was this person that couldn’t do no wrong, he was human asf, he did a lot of wrong shit and it’s okay to be wrong, doesn’t make me hate or love Pac any less. It actually shows me know how human he was.
@@youngbravo PAC knew something listen to against all odds
@@iViCMychael Facts, I've been saying that for years...
2pac did not trust anyone because he was going through trauma
He had alot of the wrong people in his ear too
@@viralbuthow000 right and he was the one saving and helping their asses
@@BigWilt2000 Yup. Prequel to Nipsey Hussle damn near
@@BigWilt2000 one day your going to realize 2Pac got jerked every record deal he signed, and had to pay for lawyer fees on consignment. He generated money as a great artist, but was a broke businessman. Help who?
@I Am King you missed the point. It ain’t a versus thing. It was about what nip did beyond hip hop. And it ain’t worship either.
I appreciate Ed keepin’ it 100 without having to talk down on Pac. You get the sense that Ed loved and respected Pac but disagreed with him on a certain situation and stands on that. I can see why Suge told him he respected him. It’s the ones who speak differently depending on who they’re around that you can’t trust. Even if Pac is gone, if you feel he was wrong you still say he was wrong but in a way that doesn’t disrespect Pac if you claim to have had love for him. That’s exactly what I get from Ed. Great interview.
I respect this man for speaking the truth !!!.. pac got a lot of people along with himself killed .
Nuttin people haven't been sayin for years. Ed just got that respect cuz he been in the game and knew all the greats from our era. Pac the revolutionary was a proud black icon, that other ish to me has always been a persona. Sharp ass young mind, but still young smh. Every action has a reaction. That action he took in Vegas sealed his fate.
You right I’m on that level too no matter who person is they need to be told they are wrong it’s grown up wise interaction humanity Ed humble man hope his well 🤲🏼🤲🏼✨
The Quod studio incedent changed hiphop forever, it would be no East vs west if that hadn't happened
He's not lying about walking through Newark and shopping freely downtown. I remember seeing Ed Lover downtown solo a couple times when I was in high school, back in like '96/'97. Ed seems like a solid guy. It sounds like nothing, but for a known guy in the entertainment space to walk Newark freely that wasn't from there was extremely rare. That was a dangerous thing to do for most celebs, still is.
Ed caps about a lot of shit lol
You just said how feared, connected and respected stretch was. So when no resistance was put up by anyone. And robber's say get and everybody hit the floor. PAC like damn seams awfully funny. Like a fuckin set up
That part !! Idk if it was true but their have been stories of him setting it up . Him and pac was cool af tho they would be everywhere together
Fact lmaooo. Stretch was such a street dude that instead of continuing his rapper career.. he was stealing bricks...
Exactly bro. Stretch knew Pac had two glocks on him. Yet still no resistance.
@James Miller if you had a homie 25 years try to mend that bro unless its totally unrepairable. These cats today ain't built like the cats were back then. That would've been a real homie before all this fake shyt. But then again maybe he's fake too now.
Just because you are feared doesn't mean you wont meet your match
Stretch was still friends with the people who set 2pac up. That's a no no in 2pac's world of loyalty.
No he wasn't. Stop lying
@@bigolbabyhuey Stretch was still hanging out with Jimmy hechman after the shooting.
@@lordfriezachrist6546 you're obsessed with 2Pac like Frieza is obsessed with Saiyans. Lol just admit you're gay already bro! Nothing wrong with that it'll make you feel better lol
@@almightytre3730 So was Big. Jimmy was right there giving Big stories for his raps on Life After Death.
Henchmen set up Big, Stretch knew it but Big didnt even know Pac was coming
Easy for Ed to say. Ed wasn't the one that was robbed, he wasn't the one that was shot, he wasn't the one that went to jail for other people's actions, and everyone wasn't bad mouthing Ed while he was locked away like Pac.
You couldn’t have said it better
What did any of those things have to do with stretch? Zayd? BiG? Nickels? Puff? 3 of them got robbed with you, one of them got shot at the same time, one of them have a baby with pacs sister.. you think its rational and acceptable to push blame on everyone you see? I have never heard or seen any motive whatsover.. No back story for why they would do something as crazy as that. Thats not a small thing to do, that shit would be known afterwards, and their loot would have been known. What happened, nothing. Pacs family was still hanging with all of them, pacs friends was hanging with them. The only person who believed that shit was pac. Kinda strange dont you think?
If you're reading this, I hope you have a great 2021.
Back atcha Hazey
still 2020 though.
Has to be better then 2020.
Same to you and more blessings your way ( from south africa)
Thanks. You too!!!
People gotta understand how young Pac was too. He died at 25 Ed taking about situations even before that do Pac was only like 22/23. He was still young learning making mistakes. Imagine the shit we all did at 22 especially if we would had been rich n famous
Still . . Its wack not to pay repects at your homeboy funeral!
100%.
10 years old or 26 years old . . You know that shit is wrong
@@jason-ian-Van-Sloten man stfu he prolly pay respects in private dont not everyone can handle being in a sad ass funeral
@ Siss Buttkiss you right!
Pac wasn’t rich he only had notoriety he died broke
Sounds they were younger tryna give Pac advice
Stretch was killed a year later after the quad shooting, the exact same date. Pacs opening verse on holla at me is about Stretch and on against all odds Pac says 'and that nigga that was down for me resting dead, switch sides guess his new friends wanted him dead'
@@lordfriezachrist6546 how you know. You seen it
He hard for tupac😂
Just curious. How far did you go in school?
@Royal Law Of Liberty! 😂😂😂😂
@@lordfriezachrist6546 😭🤣😂
Suge was locked up from 96-2001. So i don’t know what Ed talking about when he was on a boat with Suge in 99.
Suge was in Jail when biggie got killed in ‘97? So he went to jail right after Tupac died?
@@spenser6353 yup. Violated parole when he was locking baby lane that night of the fight. Got 5 years for it. Got sentenced in November 96
@@anthonysmith7734 he got 9 & got out in 5
@@4thquartercloser either way he got out in 2001 and went in n 96 like i said dummy
@@anthonysmith7734 bitch I was adding on to yo point calm down keyboard warrior
No mention of the fact that Dexter Issac, who admitted to being part of the crew that shot 2Pac in Quad Studio, said that it was Stretch who was giving them updates on their whereabouts and that he did so for 1/4 kilo from Henchman (who was ultimately behind the shooting)?
Yeah, everyone dances around this fact.
Dexter Issac lied it was East New York dudes who were paid by jimmy henchmen to do the robbery. Ayanna Jackson’s prom date bought the jewelry from the robbers his name is P-nut from bed-stuy Brooklyn he was in the get money video with lil Kim
@@Drebws dropping gems
Are you talking about dexter isaac from Detroit?
@@savagesammy3145 naw I'm from Detroit Dexter from Brooklyn. Jimmy Henchman and the Feds confirmed his story
2pac was young, didn't get a chance to be old, learn & grow‼️
True I think the same thing too a 25 year man is like a 18 year old mentally men take ages to grown mentally be responsible be careful who around them especially in that rap street life that isn’t safe
Yes very young but you still know right from wrong
He was getting advice back then
@@dywayneowens5062Pac was 24 when Stretch passed and Stretch was 27
@@dujuanjohnson5025 still Pac and everybody knew who shot him and why.
When are they gonna start looking at things from the standpoint of 2pac and where he was coming from?
Exactly everyone act like he didn’t get shot 5 times
Never because they never went through it and they all look at him as a actor then they wanna blame suge as if pac wasn’t already declaring them enemies before he signed with death row in actuality suge start beefing with puff over pac not the other way around
Tupac standpoint is this: Pac was hanging around dudes that people told him to avoid. He was trying to impress street dudes and earn credibility with them by emulating their lifestyle and it backfired on him. When BIG, Mike Tyson, Ed Lover and Treach warn you about dudes you fucking with-- you might wanna listen.
@@smoovej2868 Suge beef with Puff with speech at Soul Train Music awards.
@@XTRABIG thats it but you got to remember, Pac was in his early twenties and very impressionable with that street baller lifestyle.
Holla at me was a subliminal diss at stretch, Pac never dissed his NAME for reasons I ain’t gonna say but iykyk, AND Pac got at em on against all odds too. Stretch was apart of the set up in 94
the date the lyrics the way he stop using his name songs it all add up💰
Some ppl just don’t do funerals it’s no disrespect to the deceased
Some people don’t do funerals and some people are so caught in their feelings they refuse to do funerals. Tupac was the latter.
Why go to the funeral of a nigga you wasn’t rocking with anymore
@@Polostar79 Pac definitely waa in his feelings. I rock with Pac but he handled that wrong
@@ZYaKnoe249 Pac was wrong though, I totally agree with Ed because if that was the other way around and he didn't show up to Pac funeral, Hardcore Pac fans would have came at Stretch crazy. I rock with Pac but he was wrong
STFU!
This is definitely an interesting interview!!
BOTTOM LINE HE GOT A WHOLE LOT TO SAY putting himself in pac biz AFTER HE GONE!
@@4DASTREETS1 good point!!
Tupac died in fucking 96, a lil bit over a year after the quad shooting...and in 96, it wasn't social media, and some dudes didn't do interviews over real street beefs or disagreements...so he probably was talking his talk, but we just didn't know about it...ed grew up around real street dudes that didn't do the limelight chats like pac did...I say all that to say this, dudes wasn't scared to talk about pac, all that "they scared of me in the physical form" shit, y'all buy that bullshit? They were scared of pac? Lmao....y'all delusional word up
@@tste7856 lot of people talked shit after Pac was gone. Just like wen Suge was locked up.
@@MultiKadafi that's not the point, the point is they talked shit before he died too ..even had his shit poked in in prison...as a matter of fact, I think after he died is when everybody started praising him, even enemies... nobody reallybtaljed shit after he died besides a handful
Mad respect for this entire interview unlike that agent vlad interviews
I felt that ‼️
He kept it real with Pac. That’s what a man supposed to do ✊🏾
Stretch did some grimey shit
Too bad pac couldn't keep it real with his fake self
Pac was far from real if we gonna keep it real
PAC STATUS - IT'S COMPLICATED!!!
@@tapking5765 pac and texas
"I never got a single visit, yet I carried on. All my old friends too busy, now my money gone"
Interviewer is legit
@@lordfriezachrist6546 stfu Hatin ass nikka u prolly listen to 6ixnine wtv the fucc that dude name is rip Biggie🙏🏾
@@lordfriezachrist6546 you're a fuckin clown
Pac was a legit ballerina
Fact. Good interviewer
Yes he is the best out of all the one's Vlad has chosen
The fact that it was one year to the day always seemed fishy to me
Pac shot November 30th 1994
Stretch killed November 30th 1995
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Pac died after stretch Pac died 1996 !!!!Stretch died 1995
@@jaajaarogers9101 Pac was shot at Quad Studios Nov 30th 1994
Stretch killed the next year , same day
Talk about a coincidence 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Crazy if u think about it..
Pac said while he was fighting dude with the gun, Stretch dropped on the floor like a bag of potatoes.
That's how they really started beefing and Pac was wrong for that. He got mad when Stretch responded. Pac wasn't in touch with Reality with that situation. It's 4 of them with 2 Gunmen. if Stretch would have tried to take down one of them, somebody definitely gonna get shot or killed by the other one. They don't talk about how Stretch boy Nickels got shot from Pac reaching. They got the drop, Pac almost got himself killed trying to play hero. I Really Rock With Pac but I gotta be real, my dude didn't handle that whole situation correctly. That one situation turned into alot of shit, it didn't have to.
Sincere The God Pac was defending himself
NAW PAC SAID HE DROPPED BEFORE THEY PULLED GUNS OUT
Exactly. Pac knew what time it was then. He wanted Stretch to grab him so he could bust.
@@dsales2011 i rock with Pac but that mindset waa dumb as Hell...Would of got someone killed. 4 of them and 2 Gunmen. That could have got ugly
"I lost respect for you nigga and we can never be friends" -Pac
Ed Lover has more credibility than anyone commenting on this video. We all need to face it: Tupac was fucked up mentally and lot of people died and went to jail over nothing--on both coasts.
what credibility? you believe it just bc its ed lover? what about the guilt ed feels bc he introduced Pac to stretch. stretch sold him out.
@@birthdaycelebration9943 Ed was friends with them all and has nothing to gain by telling the truth as the big brother to them all.
@@Tom120x3 like i said, the guilt from introducing Pac to stretch in the first place. Stretch own brother didnt know strech sold out Pac. Ed didnt know, Nas didnt know but Pac did. People just sticking to their story that's all they have no personal knowledge.
Ed said Stretch was known to buss but he didn't at Quad. So it sounds like maybe Pac wondered why .
@@birthdaycelebration9943 lol and you know.?
Ed Lover once again is leaving stuff out stretch was going alot of shady shit at that time 1 he got on radio and said pac shot him self 2 he was delivering messages to pac from jimmy henchmen (the guy who set pac up to be robbed) but you suppose to be pac homie tho? 3 when Tupac was in rikers stretch tried to talk to pacs girl pacs ex confirmed this in a recent interview And pac never said big set him up he said he believed big knew what was about to go down and let it happen because big was scared of jimmy and them that's why pac start saying fear is stronger than love
You weren’t there
@@JKorver I didnt have to be there everybody knows this do your research lil nigga
@@bornreadytrill you weren’t there so stfu speaking on other people’s experience you bozo. You never there niggas always got something to say stfu you dayroom.
@@JKorver not tryna get in y'all back and forth, but I did see an interview from Napoleon from the Outlaws (who is a humble Muslim now) and he said he was there when Stretch walked in and delivered the Jimmy Henchmen message don't go to war unless you got your money right
@@JKorver pac has talked about this in interviews lol
But the part that is left out is they said stretch gave the shooters tupac location all that evening. One of the dudes say it was for coke, they originally just wanted to teach pac a lesson but when tupac clutched his pistol they went for the kill. This the story they don’t tell
Who is they!!
One of the alleged shooters !
@@itsjob595 Jimmy henchman's goons (Big dexter, j.d and another dude)
I didn’t know what happen because I wasn’t there when it went down
I hate how 25 years in, people still find ways to bad mouth Pac. The Outlawz confirmed that after the shooting Jimmy Henchman sent Stretch to deliver a message to Pac (or Pac's remaining homeboys) about Pac not being ready for a war. Perhaps Stretch wasnt involved in the shooting, but he was far from neutral.
Maybe now you'll understand what pac meant when he was rapping about Stretch' new friends on 'Against all odds'.
Exactly.
I wish Stretch was here to speak for himself
Really I wish they were all here
Fuck stretch & biggie
I was just with his brother Maj. I hear the stories all the time. Pac was around some wild guys man. Some had his best interest and others didn’t.
@Shgarli Mandoza fuck u & ed
@@ericgalloway5434 fact . Pac loyal got him killed
It definitely had to do with pac getting shot, Cmon Ed..... Stretch crossed pac, and got xrossed.
Fr
Ed is cool and carries himself like a man. Dr dre be acting like a hater on his interview
Naw G , Dre is cool 😎 I will always have love and respect for him , they are the ones that started it back in the day , then basically greedy MTV stole from them and cancelled there show because they didn't want to pay them
@katobskonningit to be fair Dr Dre does deserve his due and has been around major instances where his contributions was overlooked. Also the man has amputee and blindness he going through things. I guarantee we all can learn from his book involving hip hop hidden history from his perspectives
bruh hella people turned their backs on dre. learn bout it before you go callin him a hater.
No he's not... Literally grew up around the corner from him. He's an arrogant pos
@@jackbauer1805 sure you did
Didnt Stretch die exaclty one year same date as when Pac got shot in NYC??
Yup
Bingo
Yes sir!
Stretch was killed right after dropping off Nas at his crib after the recording sessions for Take It In Blood. Nas spoke on it on Queens Story. Stretch was killed minutes after he pulled off
nah it was a few days before that
Suge was lock up in 99, he didn’t come home until 2001....
I think he just got confused of the year he was around Suge
True , or it never happen , look up what Jasmine guy said about Strech, he was A snake and pac new it
I thought he was locked up in 96
96 foo
96 until 2001 / I don’t think the conversation ever happen with him Suga
“ I let the world know you a coward, you could never be live....” Pac’s verse on Holla at me is mostly about stretch
The first verse is about Stretch.
Holla if u hear me came out before he got shot
@@KazOliver4 wrong song
Why show up for someone funeral who was apart of setting him up
Don't know that for sure. Pac can be wrong. Y'all won't admit it tho.
@@Scoe91Til it was a inside job
Stretch had nothing to do with Pac getting shot. Pac admitted in his interview that he just felt hurt that Stretch didn't react the way he felt he should have after the robbers pulled out their guns on him. No one wants to keep it funky and just say Pac felt embarrassed and was just looking for someone to blame by saying Stretch and Biggie set him up.
Stretch and Biggie were the main ones telling Pac not to fool around with Haitian Jack. Pac put a target on his back by bashing Jack in the press when he caught that rape charge. Jimmy and other street dudes were telling Stretch that Pac was crossing the line. Then Pac gets robbed and shot and then says Stretch was playing both sides by telling him what they were saying. Stretch would've been foul for not telling Pac.
nomibe2911 Stretch didn’t have a gun on him. That’s why he didn’t try to fight the dudes that robbed him and Pac. Pac had a gun on him.
Pac was human. Trust me, had he lived to see his 40's even he'd say he was wildin a bit. Thats expected when you in ya 20's. He use to talk bad about his biological father bad on his 1st few albums...but noticed he stopped after awhile because they reconciled. His mother had a little to do with the way things went left between them. Hes still living btw and met Biggie apparently too. That part about the gun in the piano was the same thing Lil Shawn said in a different interview. "Actually, ya man passed the gat to me." -Big
@@jcrockoo7 Bro a bad relationship with your father is very different than making amends with someone who tried to rob you or kill you, this is what Stretch was affiliated
@@jcrockoo7 exactly saying stupid shit how he was only shot once when the police and hospital reports saying otherwise Ed Lover is a clown period
No. Sadly his dad passed away years ago.
His mother lied and told him his father died. She was dead wrong for that
@@brj2343 His father is alive and well.
Never knew Ed Lover and 2Pac were close like that. These stories are interesting. R.I.P. 2Pac.
You can tell when pac was on yo mtv and ed put his hand over his mouth. You would only do that to somebody you have a relationship with outside of tv.
Pac never said big or stretch did it he said they knew something about something
Pac was doing a bunch of bullshit honestly
Truth the fact Stretch was relaying messages saying "they said dont go to war unless you get ya money right" proves he was down with the niggaz who made the hit
Stop fanboying he caused alot of unnecessarily bullshit
They knew pac shouldnt be running with them niggas and pac said he know what he was doing
@@RLO26 maybe big shouldn’t have dropped who shot ya while pac was locked up...and maybe Haitian jack shouldn’t been a snitch to begin with setting pac up its pure cointelpro
He not talking bout how stretch trying to holla at pac girl while he was locked up? Yo brother can become ur worst enemy if he's envious of who u are and your life style.
No disrespect but Pac was knocking down a few people Ladies and was cool with their boyfriends or Husband. Stretch tried to holla at his side chick, not his wife.
EXACTLY
@Joshua Mezza lol No
@Joshua Mezza Word is Bond I said the same thing. He was cool with Bobby Brown, Andre Rison, and KC from Jodeci but it didn't stop him from knocking down Whitney, Mary J, and Left Eye. The girl that Pac was messing with that accused Stretch at coming at her said she met Pac while he was with Bobby Brown. So Pac should of respect the game....
@Joshua Mezza Nah. He didn't sleep with Left Eye because that was Treach's girl.
against all odds he speaks on it
Everyone has a 2Pac story
Except u
Yet the irony is, majority of people don’t have a many Biggie stories.
@@moseshanon7060 are you serious!!
I kno right sheeit i may even have a few stories myself
All those stories came out of pacs closet too
Stretch was cool , I was about to get jumped in Queens and he stopped that shit , good dude RIP
Lmao😂😂
😂😂😂
Me and Stretch stopped George Monde from getting his a** beat in queens - TK Kirkland
@@JKorver 🤣
Captain CAP 🧢🥱🥱
Everybody- “TK Kirkland knows everything and everybody!”
Ed Lover~ “Hold my cassette tape.”
Stretch brought the message 'don't go to war unless you get your money right' from jimmy henchman. Can't remember where I saw that
Napoleon's Vlad interview and end of against all odds. PAC says it.
To my homie that was down with me bless the dead he switched sides I guess his new friends wanted him dead
Pac was linked up with supreme and I think he knew what really happened with stretch death
I rock with Pac but he was wrong for that line...
@@sincerethegod325 how was he wrong
he said resting dead not bless the dead
@@guwapdcfinest5868 Supreme had nothing to do with Stretch death
Stretch was a stick up kid and got killed for a robbery he did trying get his money up he also did the beat for pain if im not mistaken
@@lordfriezachrist6546 you a fan boy sucka
@@lordfriezachrist6546 Naw pac still hunting all these cats in they dreams. They hate hearing his name associated with legendary that's all get over it lor fella
Yep he did. And this guy is a clown he clicks on every Pac video and says the exact same thing lol.
Stretch got killed for some work he robbed or ran off for!
@@lordfriezachrist6546 you are here again. dam u on every 2 pac video
He's lying, now Pac ain't mess with nobody in NY, but had Buck Shot and Greg Nice out there in the West and others.. Pac felt how he felt and that's that
Him feeling a way doesnt mean that he was right.
@@Scoe91Til He the nigga who was shot, so it's about him period, Ed just said they BOTH got laid down.. But Pac the only on shot and Stretch relaying messages INSTEAD OF BEING MAD HE WAS LAID DOWN TOO, WHILE THEY SHOT HIS HOMIE... 😆😁🤣 come on now where they do that.. these niggaz wanted Pac to act like dudes Dad in Friday when Debo took the bike.. "told you not to be hanging with these real gangsters" instead of fuck that they shot and robbed me its on.
That’s after he got shot.
@Carlos Wehi yep and Pac has many songs on recorded on Death Row with NY rappers Boot Camp Click, Big Daddy Kane, Greg Nice just to name some and planned on working with many more on the One Nation project
@Lamar Brown yep.. Big Daddy Kane
99/2000 you were with suge? He was locked up then.
ed Lier
@@xarmy5669 yup 🤣
The dude is full of it.
Man biggie was dissing PAC on those song man come on
Name the songs?
Name songs?
Biggie -Long Kiss Goodnight, The Ugliest, Stop Yappin, and if "who shot ya" wasn't for him he shoulda never blew on the dice and said it in Jay z video and came out with the song at that time he came out with it, Biggie is smart and a clever rapper, why come out with the song at that time.
@@Polostar79 quit acting like Big and Bad Boy was innocent at that time. It was mixtapes all over New York with them dissing Pac. Cut the shit
@@masco2483 Come on now. Who Shot Ya wasn't about Pac at all.
GOD FIRST ALWAYS
Actually 2pac was good in new jersey cause of the outlaws and kadafi being his cousin... everybody kno treach was a lame in new jersey..
2pac would've been better at the ballet arts school
Find something better to do with your life. Dont be a lame
What do you mean that Treach was a ‘lame’ in New Jersey?
Treach not a lame but pac was good in jerzey before treach...
The outlawz were still kids when Pac was hanging in Jersey with Naughty and the only on that was in Jersey at that was Kadafi Pac didn't meet Fatal and Mutah til 94/95
I was waiting for this question
I think we all saw this subject matter coming.
I'm so glad Vlad ain't doin this interview
Vlad told interviewer to follow “protocol of his platform” Pac is his platform.
I don’t know what else they possibly can ask him
2Pac, Stretch, and BIG did House of Pain together! Raw ass track for sure!
Why Ed didnt tell how Pac reacted when he asked him about why he didnt go to Strech funeral?
I wanted to hear that part
This a dope interview
I love Pac. One of my favorite artists all time. But Big didn't set him up. He was bugging and paranoid after getting shot at Quad. The streets know what happened and so did Pac. He caused a whole riot about it but other people got shot too and was still in the streets when he left for LA with Suge after coming home. Y'all should have a little more respect for the dead. RIP Pac, Stretch, E-Money bags, Big and a whole lot more everyone don't know about.
Pac never said Big set him up lmmfaoooo
@@nujerusalemtv809 I never said he said that. But the same way you implied that's what I said is the same way people implied what Pac was saying in that Vibe interview. Thanks for making my point
@@MrGwokgetter “I love Pac. One of my favorite artists all time. But Big didn’t set him up” is exactly what you said. verbatim…Lmmfaoooo…dude, Pac never said Big had anything to do with what happened at Quad. Never. Ever. Pac was bugging, he was noid, but what happened at Quad happened. People come down too hard on Pac about certain thing’s, not absolving him from his actions, choices and decisions sometimes forgetting Pac was a conflicted, talented, lost 23-24 yr old individual R.I.Paradise Bag’s, Pac, Fe, Stretch, Syke, Yak, Fatal, Johnny J, Lando, Nate, Badazz, and all the fallen king’s no longer here with us in the physical
Man if you rocking wit me and I get shot you got to pick a side or it's up wit everyone
@@duvvvaaaallll1242 so who switched sides or didn't rock wit Pac after he got shot?
I’m checkin for all the Ed Lover joints.
Nothing against what he's saying but tupac already mentioned why he felt dude set him up in the sway interview.
Pac talks about him in "holla at me".
And also when he says in against all odds.
Switch sides guess his new friends wanted him dead.
Also I think in a vlad treach interview and in 2pac vibe interview he says that stretch came back after that saying all they wanted was your jewelry, why didn't you just give it up or sumn like that . Check into it
If you listen closely to holla at me I believe pac was talkin about the industry not jus an actual person. Especially that first verse. He was talking about the game and the ppl within in he tied himself to
@@namelesswonder4651 wish pac was here to explain, I remember all this off the first official hearing of the tape. Not even pushing forward past years of hearing and everything unraveling. He was sending those messages for u to hear and understand then, but his interview with sway really lays it down on the whole situation
@@namelesswonder4651 he as clearly talking about stretch
Super enjoying this
me too
@@vladtv
Glad , we still waiting on that travon lane interview
Ed Lover cut it out. Stretch set PAC up for that Quad Studio shooting. It’s already been told .
How you know
You weren’t there, stfu kitten.
This was better than anything glad has ever put out
People be trying 2 down play Pac rep. Pac died a shooter. If u never shot no one, your not on Pacs level. So all the trolls in the comments need to STFU.
PAC was never a hitter....Rocked the mic though! Internet is bullshit! People talking about things they know nothing about.....
Pac was an Actor. Professionally trained. He was playing a role. He couldn't get out of that character. No dis just being real. If Pac was alive he would admit it. He got caught up. Happens to the best of em...
@@frankwhite7109 but he shot 2 cops
Been 24 yrs and Ed still bitter over Pac not going to Stretch funeral... that’s definitely hate for him to still feel like that about Pac after so many years...
? What ?
Ed lover broke it down . I always felt the same way Ed feel.
You can tell Ed has real love for Pac.
Pac was "stretch" man and they still layed them down at quad studios
Sp who's treach?? I'm confused.
Treach been on vladtv talkin bout pac....
@@jomama2938 "naughty by nature" hiphop hurray.. o.p.p.
Ed lover was principal of the day at Jamaica high school. Our principal was mr. dickler
Switch sides/ guest his new friends wanted him dead...
Against All Odds- Tupac, referring to stretch....
Yep...Holla at me does too
@@DealwiththeReal And "Why U Turn On Me"
Stretch was tryna get at Jasmine Guy & that other woman Tupac was talking to, That godfather shit went out the window when “Holla At Me” came out, when Tupac was locked up.
RIP to the goat 2PAC.
Restinhell to that real ballerina 2pac
Pac was more of a pony than goat
He ain’t lying. Ran into Ed Lover on the PATH train right in Newark. Cool ass dude super humble.
You can get an ID doesn’t matter if you’re a felon or not.
I never understood how a Rapper that toured across the US did not have an ID. Like seriosly. I hear that argument from the live squad about having no ID. Yes, I understand pre 9-11 you could fly without ID, but I am sure this guy had some identification. If not, why not go to the dmv and get one? Pac was locked up for nearly a year. You could of not gotten a ID in that time period? Also, some prisons allow convicted felons to visit. I'm sure Clinton correctional had a rule in place
@@riddle7911epic exactly it’s crazy. You can’t do anything without an ID. Too much of a hassle.
@Lamar Brown exactly. Something just does not add up. No wonder dude skipped the funeral. You say your innocent but than you act like you forgot the dude was in jail. No saying stretch set him up, but dude really left him to rot in jail
@Lamar Brown yep
Suge was a convicted felon and he visited him
Vlad ur not a fed.Your just a amazing interviewer,your interviews are very engaging. Don’t worry bout the haters
Vlad burner account
Ed just sticking up for his boy. Stretch set Pac up
Facts
Word, I agree.
How did he set Pac up?
@@sincerethegod325 From the interviews and articles I've read The shooter Dexter Isaac said Stretch was "In cahoots and was giving us the play by play." And was giving a quarter brick for setting up Pac by Jimmy Henchman. Stretch also delivered the message from Henchman That he better get his money right before going to war with him. That Pac later mentions on Makaveli. Stretch was also killed on the one year anniversary of setting up Pac. Seems more than a coincidence 🤷♂️.... I hate the narrative that Pac was crazy. Pac knew what happened and who set him up. And what he was saying on Makaveli lines up with the facts that have come out over the years
@@illson2019 Soon as you said Dexter Isaac, I know you didn't look more into that. That story he told didn't make sense at All. Plus once I got more of the story from people who was there at Quad studios, I knew his story was some bullshit...Pull Up Interviews from infominds on Majesty, Zayd (Pac brother n law) and Lil Shawn. Then tell me what you get out of Dexter Isaac Story
Understood but why did Big drop “Who shot you”? Knowing Pac is his man and he just got shot!
Who shot ya wasn't on either big albums
Who shot ya was the b side to the big poppa remix
@@stomper2888 Biggie album was already out when quad shooting happened who shot ya was the b side to big poppa remix
ED LOVER HATING ON PAC 🤣😅🤣
STOP BEING SO SALTY BRO !!!!!
How was he hating? He was kicking some real shit Don't know how anyone can take that interview as Hate. He had Love for dude but was disappointed on how he handled that situation knowing the truth.
@@sincerethegod325 BECAUSE IT'S 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY....
JASMINE GUY, WHO HAD A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH PAC... RECENTLY DID AN INTERVIEW THE OTHER DAY AND SAID BIG STRETCH WAS TRYING TO FLIRT WITH PAC GIRL WHILE HE WAS IN PRISON .... OBVIOUSLY PAC AND STRETCH HAD A FALL OUT AND ED LOVER ON HIS NEW YORK BIAS SHIT INSTEAD OF SEEING IT FROM PAC POINT OF VIEW
Ed & Dre were role models for me growing up in Texas. They were Just cool as fuck and funny. In '89 i was 10 and watched them all the way through til the end when i was 16. They never mentioned anything about race or ever judged anyone base on race. I saw a documentary on YO! where Ed Lover was saying all he ever wanted was Hip Hop to be for everyone regardless of race. Just 2 Cool Ass Down To Earth Guys. Much Love for Both
These pac fans or conspiracy theorists can say what they want, but I believe Ed lover is talking facts! This man really knew PAC and spent time with him...all of you never even met the guy 🤦🏿♂️ I get it though, people can’t accept that PAC was wrong
Everybody is touchable Ed.
In Pacs defense:
1. If you my man and I’m in jail, I’m not tryna hear you can’t see my bcuz of no ID! That’s BS
2. Pac felt like BIG, Puffy and others at the Quad knew it was going down and didn’t warm him... so Stretch hanging with them afterwards was kinda shady! If that’s your true friend, then my enemies are your enemies.
3. Stretch was delivering messages from Jimmy Henchman like it was cool
4. Stretch was tryna holla at one of Pacs girls while he was in jail!
5. When Pac got shot, Stretch & his boys didn’t wanna go to war with Haitian Jack & Jimmy Henchman... & to Pac if you was afraid or scary he didn’t fuck witchu
Pac cursed out Henchmen on the phone and Henchmen felt dissed so to teach Pac a lesson he set him up to be robbed. Puff, Harrell, and Stretch knew it was going to go down but Big didnt.
@@TheTrut416 practically everyone who was there.. knew what happened and couldn’t give back any information... so yes they the opps now
@@CoolTy23 Pac knew Henchmen did it but what was Pac going to do, get at Henchmen. No! So he disses Big which was the temporary easy way out
@@TheTrut416Big knew who the shooters were and him and PAC being close he never let PAC know ,when them niggas from Wutang got robbed in the Bay Area in Cali PAC found out who did it called the niggas up and make them niggas have a sit down where to jewelry was handed back over now do your homework on that ,when someone coming from out of town especially if u know they be chilling with u and ur not from the area u suppose to make sure they’re life isn’t in danger and if anything happens to them u suppose to provide them with info so they could know how to get their shit back or they get back or shit even peace shit out depending on the situation
Yeah Ed Lover you talk the real.. 💯
Ed is an OG, but he's sounding naive right now. No man on the face of the planet would freely associate with a neighbourhood and its crew after been shot ... and being denied requests for the identities of the shooters.
Pac, in his interviews said he asked these cats "give me a name" or "put me in touch with who did it" ... like he did for Wu-Tang when their chain got snatched. BIG and his people couldn't do that.
Given the above, can anyone blame him for being paranoid ?
Pac knew right away Henchman and Jack were behind it. They wanted to manage him as an artist and he declined in a cocky and disrespectful manner. When dealing with real G's and killers, respect has to be at the highest levels; Tupac was known for not having a filter and speaking with no respect.
@@universalconquest4447 Mmmmm
Biggie knew who did it but he didn't want to cross his NYC friends so he tried to stay out of it but Pac wanted Biggie to be loyal to him
@@universalconquest4447 nah, i think Pac let it out they were extorting all NY rappers...
@@BigPrimo33 They were 'managing' rappers so one can look at it like legal extortion...
Yo Ed is Spreaking mad facts💪🏿💯
Pac shot 11/30/1994
Stretch murder 11/30/1995
🔥🔥*** shrugs ***🔥🔥
"Switch sides guess his new friends wanted him dead"
If those dates are a coincidence... Aight... If U say so
His story has not changed
like 2pac guess his new friends wanted him dead
Prally be murdered for shit that I said, but I bring the real, be a legend, breathin or dead!
2pac had gay friends
2pac was a legend he had to watch his own back. enemies everywhere
Pac said it best "the nigga that was down for me rest the dead switched sides I guess his new friends wanted him dead!" *against all odds*
Sheesh. That's a cold ass line. One thing that people have to respect about Pac is that he feared no man when it came to speaking his mind. He did not hold his tongue at all.
@@r.johnson1170 yea it took me years to figure out he was talking about stretch in that. That is a real reason why nas cried when he first heard against all odds. Stretch was his bro
Reggie Wright already made it public Death Row Compton Piru executed Stretch for Pac and it had nothing to do with Streatch ''street life'' like those NY dudes would like you to believe. Hold that L NY
🤔Would you enlighten🙇🏾♂️is w/a link to this story, Sire👑?
@@moseshanon7060 just type in: Who Got Stretch?, 2pac Was Thankful - Reggie Wright Jr.
"Hold that L NY" Do you realize how corny you sound? Like dudes that fuck up don't get clipped just about anywhere in the damn world lol everybody takes a L whether it's Compton, NY, or timbuktu 🤦🏻♂️
@@trifeloco Niggaz just love to run they mouth about anything Ny
@@truthspeakitnewagedunabomb8933 seriously smh
It's safe to say that being a rapper is more dangerous than being a policeman.
Stretch was disloyal
How???
This is like the 7th person I've heard from NYC that told PAC to stay away from jimmy & them grimey niggas ....yet a tupac stan will always have some way to blame everyone else
@@Crypto_nino napoleon said stretch came to pac while recovering to tell him that was a warning and don't retaliate til you get your money right . That's being super disloyal. Why they feel alright to tell stretch ??
@@reginaldcrain4428 no! That was some sound advice actually....Pac money was not right at the time to go to war with those guys.....they were actually lacing Pacs pockets which is why he was rolling with them.....stretch was a street nigga from queens and so was those niggas & they had stretch held at gun point just like they had Pac Held at gun point.....you do the math....that was a queens stick up crew who was not to be played with
Tupac failed to be loyal to the game
Last things Ed said, is the reason Pac's is no longer alive.
ED, you have love for Stretch. But if someone tries to set you up... even if you grew up together... all bets are off. Even in Godfather 2 when Fredo set up Micheal Corleone, "his own brother", the relationship changed for ever. They had the mom by the way.
That's the whole point to his story, Stretch didn't set Pac up. I rock with Pac heavy but we gotta be real with that. Pac knew who he had beef with and who had him come to that studio. Period...I totally agree with everything Ed said, especially after getting even more info about the situation from people that was actually there and had conversations with Pac. my dude handled that wrong.
How you know. You were there
@@sincerethegod325 Stretch relying messages from the enemy, trying to fuck Pac's girls behind his back, on interviews saying he only got shot once... that's a opp
@@thisislaflaretv5250 Pull up the interviews. On infominds. Majesty, Lil Shawn, and Zayd (Pac brother n Law). Tells the whole story. He was more or so calling Dexter Isaac a liar about him being there and him accusing Stretch of setting Pac up. It's always more to the story. I rock with Pac but his word not law to me. I like to hear everybody version.
@@sincerethegod325 I can dig it
"You were with Stretch, they knew not to touch you". Quad Studios Tupac got touched. Contradiction at its purest.
you can here the envy this man had for pac
troll lol
Yeah if you’re delusional.
Never believe anything a person who doesn’t know the difference between “Hear” and “Here” says...
HEAR***
Hear = using your ears to listen
Here = being at a place or location
not everyone that disagrees with pac has hate for him lmao. just giving things from his perspective, pac wasn't perfect.
And that nigga that was down for me, restin' dead
Switched sides, guess his new friends wanted him dead
-2Pac to Stretch.
Nobody seems to question Caesar hanging out the window and hollering at Tupac. If Tupac could hear him, then the guys from the ground floor would to. I wanna know if Caesar was doing this often, hollering out the window when guests would appear to record with him or it was just with Tupac.
Cease was up their throwing water balloons at people, when he saw Pac.
I remember being at a party at Hofstra and Ed stopped the party to tell us PAC had passed.
Hofstra Pride