Toyota Tacoma Brake Rotors Performance Test. Are they worth it?
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0:00 Intro
0:35 OEM Stopping Distance Test
2:44 Rear Brake Failure
5:24 OEM Stopping Distance Test Continued
6:30 OEM Brake Fade Test
8:44 Alcon Upgrade Kit Install
13:38 Alcon Stopping Distance Test
16:23 Alcon Brake Fade Test
18:17 Data And Conclusion 
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Dang...that red caliper looks dope! I've replaced mine as well and noticed a better stoppage power.
Thanks for this information. I am 75 and have been off-roading since I was a kid with my parents in a 55 Ford sedan. We fished in Baja Calif down to LA Bay in a 2 wheel drive with no ground clearance. As an adult I have hunted small and large game. I bought a 1970 Ford F100 2 wheel drive and added a rear locker. Later I went with 2000 4x4 Tacoma extended cab. Brakes sucked in all of them. Just finished rebuilding my 2000 Tacoma with frt/Er lockers, rebuilt my 5spd trans, Merlin Crawler and transfer case. New rear driveline. Bigger brakes are next. Bought a 2017 TRD 4x4 Offroad double cab. 60k on it now. As stated before the front brakes are undersized for the stock trucks. I tow an enclosed box trailer with my camping gear, fishing or hunting gear, tent and miscellaneous equipment. It all adds up in weight Hauling all my stuff cross country on hunting trips in adverse weather ANYTHING that improves your ability to slow down or to stop in an emergency is a tremendous benefit. I greatly appreciate Tacomabeast sharing ALL the test information they have presented. Looking forward to the rear disc brake kit!
Hey robert! We’re glad we could help! 🤟
Great video dude! Cool that you guys put it to the test and gather data. The beast is getting professional AF. Cheers!
Thanks bro! 💪
The brake fade is more important than the stopping distance because of predictable results. this convinced me to upgrade
Awesome vid!! More great upgrades for the Taco.
amazing wow! thank you for the detailed video !!
30 foot reduction? Damn, I was not expecting that kind of improvement. Nicely done.
Nice to see Alcon's being used. They make some heavy duty kits for the LC. I'd love to see if these would fit my T4R.
Just amazing detailed video covering all the aspects when it's come to breaking of the beast the Tacoma beast ,, cool job guys,,, have fun,, be safe,, 👌🇮🇳
Thanks bro!
That’s a great test that helps out a lot on buying larger brakes for the taco
Thanks bro!
I have stoptech rotors drilled and slotted and hawk pads street performance and they are a noticeable increase in performance from stock for about 300 dollars cheers tacoma people
Great test!
These breaks are so sick!!
Wow gonna love this!
Big brakes for the win, great job on the video guys!
Thanks bro!
I'm sold. Thanks for the video
Glad you liked it!
Excellent video. Well done, guys.
Thanks bro 🤙
Solid video. Guess I need to upgrade my brakes now. I never liked them anyway. Never felt really comfortable with stopping power even when it was brand new. I took it back to the dealer twice thinking that maybe there was something wrong with the brakes. But it's just the way the fifth GEN is. Test drove three others exact same thing. They tell me that Toyota engineered them that way. I like brakes to feel tight. Responsive. predictable, and consistent.
It be a good test to see your truck with all it's gear and test it
Mateo bro I miss you finally you released a video now I’m waiting for the Milky Way part 3 ☺️
Didn’t the “Milky Way” series already finish, though?
@@fishtacoma it did
I’m buying these! Can’t wait to install them
im sold. definitely need these
One thing to note on your test is the rear brake failure may have affected the 3rd test as the pressure for the brake system would have dropped and affected your stopping distance. Probably would not have made a big difference given you did an average but it is worth noting since this is a scientific test. Great work!
Thats a really good point bro!
Good Test 👌 👏 😌
Are you ever going to do a review video on the eibach pro kit stage 1 you ran. Been waiting for that video for awhile. I just ordered the eibach pro kit stage 2 coilover system and I really don't want to be disappointed with the performance. Was hoping to get some insight from your review video but it never came
We’ll add it to the list for sure! In the mean time if you want some insight on performance feel free to contact our support team at support@tacomabeast.com and ask for Dustin, he’ll be happy to help you 🤙
oh so now 2 inches is considered a lot...
Great build. Brakes look sick, man!
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I went with the Stop Tech kit with braided stainless lines. Did fronts and rears. Thinking that getting rid of the drums was a huge improvement as were the new hi performance pads.
Yes! We noticed that the rear drums were a big issue mid shoot (as you saw from the vid 😂) , and now we’re working with Alcon to make a rear disk conversion kit 💪
@@tacomabeast My truck is five hundred pounds heavier than yours. 33’s, 4.88 gears and Magnusson SUpercharger. Don’t know if I would have done supercharger if I hadn’t done the brakes.
Yeah we found out the hard way that we needed to swap out the rear drums 😂
Nice work guys! What's the weight difference on OEM vs Alcan?
Estimated weight difference would be around 60 lbs give or take
Thank you Black Friday.
Nice demo and proving out! For the over landing guys hauling around the extra weight it seems like this is a must have upgrade! I have a 2nd gen 4x4 4.0 liter that I have had from mile 0 currently 232k on it. The rotors always seem to warp after 30k or so running 265 75 17 tires! I have tried the high carbon steel rotors even they shimmy under braking after some miles. I would love to upgrade but this kit is a little on the spendy side. Do you have to get replacement pads and rotors from Alcon or is there a crossover part you can use?
You would have to get the replacement pads from Alcon for this one 🤙
This is one of the best brake comparison tests I have seen. How about a similar test with the new Powerbrake D Line pad and rotor kit against OEM? Is the D line a cost effective alternative?
We’ll look into it!
Cool video
Did you need to replace the break reservoir to handle the larger calipers?
I could tell it was gonna help, because if you can't lock your tires than you should upgrade your brakes
The ABS is there so the brakes CAN’T lock up the tires. That’s the vibration in the pedal from ABS pulsing the brake lines.
Interesting video and I do love the new brakes. However I did have a thought the OEM brake system was on there for years I think it might’ve been much closer if it was a brand new system so although the new brakes are great I don’t think it is a complete fair comparison. Fun video to watch all the same though.
We did swap the OEM system for a new one before testing it we wanted to make it as fair as possible 🙌
@@tacomabeast oh wow that's pretty cool then you might have said it in the video maybe I missed it I'll have to check it out again if not you probably should have said that in the video. But hey we're only human we can think of everything LOL.
Yeah we probably missed that 😂😂
@@tacomabeast Then why were the rotors so old? We can see the video man, why not just be transparent?
Brakes aren't good on a stock Taco, Can't imagine how bad they are on a truck that weighs 1k over stock.
The more reason to replace them if you’re doing bigger rigs🤙
The skid pate you have on the truck is stock? Where can I purchase one? Great video!
It’s CBI, you can find it on our website here: tacomabeast.com/products/2005-2021-toyota-tacoma-cbi-full-skid-plates?_pos=3&_sid=6b2ff25c9&_ss=r
Are you going to change the rear breaks to Disk? That’ll help out a lot as well
Coming soon!
I talked the company that builds the brakes for the factory toyota Dakar rally trucks (Power Brake) and they said that when they added rear disks the rear end would rotate, (like using the coaster brake on your old BMX bike as a kid) so they recommended against doing the swap. They actually went back to the rear drums.
I spoke to the same guy, he said they wouldn’t really benefit
This is cool
My Alcon I hugged my box's . Thanks FedEx for the delivery. 🤘
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Also the problem with going larger calipers and rotors in a extreme off road environment sand can get trapped in the barrel of the wheel which an sand the calipers down causing failure
That’s a good point! Gotta make sure to watch for sand often 🤙
Should u do this first in a overland project or no
It depends, it definitely is a huge upgrade and will help you overlanding but there are other upgrades that would be more important like sliders or skid plates 🤙
Heavy load on your vehicle means that you have to modify your brakes to have a sufficient stopping power
When can we get a build walk-around on the Tacomabeast rig?
Who would interview us tho? 😂
I would like to see you change out the rear drum for rotors.
We’re actually exclusively working with Alcon to make a drum conversion kit for the rear drums! 🤙
@@tacomabeast that's would awesome so far the only way is to use the helix rear disc system which is costly but easy to do
My dad have a tacoma and you are cool ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Johnny! 💪
Is there a way I can upgrade mines without idk cutting off metal ?
How about a comparison of these Alcon against Stop Tech?
That’s a good idea! We might have to test that out 💪
It would help a little if your wheels weren't on the line. Those painted lines have reduced traction. It's why they tell motorcyclist to not ride on the lines/stripes.
Did you replace the shoes and drums on both sides or just the one that broke
Both sides 🙌
Sorry to step on your $ game but. 13WL
calipers check Tacoma forums OEM bolt on. Will work unless you added too much weight then go with this kit or Rotora 14" kit that has been out for years
I've watched several of your videos and come away wondering how your mods affect the factory warranty. Great looking truck!
My own personal experience was Toyota will say anything to deny your warranty. If you’re willing to accept responsibility for the upgrades you want, do them and make it a MUCH more enjoyable truck.
how much does the Alcon kit weigh more than the OEM stuff?
Weight difference is around 40 lbs overall (counting both sides)
Another Great vid .. proof in the pudding
Thanks bro!
I wanna see more on mateos 2nd gen taco
It’s coming soon 👀
What did he do to the engine to make it sound like that? It’s bad ass!!!!
It’s got a supercharger in it 🤙
Does Alcon make a brake kit for a 2015 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 Double Cab?
The brake kit should fit the 2015 but just in case feel free to contact our support team at support@tacomabeast.com and they’ll be happy to give you some data on that! 🤙
What happened to your summit Dakar wheels
We have those on the other taco 🔥
The more you do it the better you should do. The kit takes a minute to brake in, get it brake in?
Hahaha that was a good one!
It's a nice looking kit, but seems like a lot of modification for such an expensive upgrade. It would be great to see this test with a set of StopTech rotors and quality pads to compare.
The OEM kit was a fresh new set
@@tacomabeast with rust and grime built up into it... no it wasn't.
@@Kojima93 ya idk why he was lying
Donut media did said test with their 350z's in their hi-low series. Check it out.
@@johnnymartinez478 those rotors if OEM are pretty fresh, mine showed rust on the hat and veins within 3 weeks of ownership.
Honestly the slight increase you'll see between a 10K set and brand new set isn't going to change heatsoak enough in most tests to make a difference. It's why pads/new rotors alone isn't a great idea. That heat being dumped into the rotor has to be extracted or you'll just end up with fade still.
So in humbolt's suggestion, depending on pad you will see anywhere from an increase or decrease in first stop performance as the pads get up to temperature, and then an increase in most likely the 2nd, 3rd and MAYBE if it's a hot temp pad 4th test. After that performance will fall off like a nose dive.
Most OEM brake systems are not designed for continous braking, so you will need to decide if you will be doing enough to require it.
Also their test on the aftermarket set is on point in expected results. Those pads are probably a high temp pad meant for performance driving where there is constant use. So it is expected for the pads to come alive after a few runs and hold performance as they get into range and the braking cooling cycle stabilizes them.
Would have preferred to see the new Alcon's tested against new OEM's.
That’s exactly what you just saw. The OEM kit was a fresh new set.
Must not have been paying attention to that part of the vid, sorry.
Has the "Shops that we trust" been removed from the site? I just checked it and nada
We’re working on updating it!
For the Toyota Tacoma, would it be more beneficial to just get the TRD Pro and start customizing from there or a lesser trim level? I understand the TRD Pro isn't "required" persay but, does it help more to start there and build on or to just get a lower trim?
It might make your customization a bit easier, and it does come with some perks like the CRAWL control but ultimately you can build an SR5 just as nice as you can build a TRD pro 🙌
Lower trim if you are doing a build otherwise your throwing away your money. If you want leather get a off-road to build from but if just want base build start with a SR v6 4x4. You have well over 10k to build a better truck. Honestly the best way to build a true Taco for the wild... Good luck
Thanks guys, super appreciative. Wife and I are nurses and have minimal vehicle modification experience haha but super interested and love the outdoors.
@@jamess303 just curious if you and your wife ever started the build?
Which model year of the tacoma are worth buying used?
It depends on preference tbh most tacos will have really good engines regardless of usage so it’s all up to how you like each gen, some people prefer second gens and some prefer third gens
Mine stops like a freight train, gotta down shift if i need to stop abruptly
For brake fade … was the OEM brakes new also?
Yep! We replaced them before shooting the video🤙
Hey TB! what do yo do for living?
We run Tacomabeast.com your one stop shop for everything Toyota Tacoma
what size tyre is it on your tacoma ? 35 or 37inch ?
35 🤙
Do they have a kit for the 5th gen 4runners?
Alcon might, however the kit we have with them is just for Tacomas
Any idea if this will work on 5th gen 4runners?
The kit was made for tacos so we haven’t tested it on 4runners but it might 🤷♂️
Were the oem calipers and rotors new like the Alcons were? 🤔
Yup! We replaced them before the video 🤙
So did you have to put your wheel spacers back on?
We didn’t have to but we did and it fit both ways 🤙
Nice looking breaks but I feel you shouldn’t have to modify anything to put them on…
I would switch out the stock brake line, and replace it with a steel braided brake line....they are nice lookin trucks ....too bad the rust issues still persist. Smh
That’s a great idea tbh never thought about it
How do you think this would compare to installing a set of 5th gen 4Runner brakes on the Taco?
That’s a great question, we might have to put that to the test
@@tacomabeast that'd be awesome. The OEM 4runner parts would probably be quite a bit cheaper.
So you are comparing a brand new aftermarket kit to an old OEM kit with how
many miles🤔 Toyota brakes are high quality especially because they are designed for a stock truck. I’m running mine with 37” krawlers no issues
Don’t lie them 37” tires you gottah plan way ahead when you stopping 🤣
The OEM kit was a fresh new set, we wanted this to be as fair as possible.
I'm not lifted, but have 113k on mine and haven't had any issues yet. Looks like I'll get another 20-30k on them.
Is there one available for the 2006 year model ??
Not currently, but we’re working on it
Do they make a set for the back? I bet if you had a set of both I would think you'd have even better performance.
That’s the next experiment, in this video we where testing for the front only.
@@tacomabeast Check out this Toyota engineer attempting to answer the question "Why Does The 2020 Toyota Tacoma Still Have DRUM Brakes? We Ask The Chief Engineer To Find Out! - RUclips"
ruclips.net/video/hELXIudcew0/видео.html
I noticed that his mileage was just over 69420, nice :D
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This is only the front correct? How much do they cost? Thanks.
The front swap is on our website for $2300 we are working on a rear disk conversion kit for the rear drums
How about the rear drum brakes?
We’re working on rear disk conversion kit with Alcon 🤙
Brakes on my stock 2019 tacoma are better than any chevy i have been in. Tho 06 impala with power stop drilled slotted rotors all around with best pads they had nearly tear your head off. Drums in the back is BS. Look to up grade my tacos brakes for its first upgrade
Now you just need rear disc brakes to match, in the middle of a rear disc conversion via Explorer axle on my Ranger. Can't wait to feel the difference!
We’re actually working with Alcon to make a rear disc conversion for the taco!
Can fit on first gen sequoia?
These were specifically made for the Toyota Tacoma 🤙
Its a nice setup, and great from what Im seeing. But for $3000, thats a VERY expensive upgrade IMO.
Comparatively I think it makes sense, it’s the same as buying a front and back bumper for your taco and it boosts the performance 🤷♂️
How much would it cost if you needed to stop 30 feet sooner to avoid running into something (or worse yet someone)? $3 grand then becomes worth every penny. Any money spent on better brakes is worth it.
Attention to aLL car expert. Just using water to cooL down disc brake & brake pad. I suggest about a miliLiter per minute dropping on disc brake directly is very safe whilLe traveling more than 100 mph. to prevent faiL brake due to overheating. Or simply apply radiator on brake pad / disc brake. BECAUSE SAFETY IS EVERYTHING. .. especially those very heavy duty truck
Thanks for the tip!
I hate drum brakes. Does anyone make a decent rear disk brake conversion?
We’re working with Alcon to make one for the Tacoma 🤙
ARE THE TIRES THE SAME BETWEEN BOTH TESTS?
YEP 🤙
How come noone is talking about upgrading to the Toyota 13.4 inch brakes from a 4runner sport and I think its the Tacoma sport or even Tundra (even bigger). I upgraded to the 13.4 from a tacoma on my 07 4runner. Only have to remove or modify the dust covers super easy. Also the 4runner rear disks setup should fit I'm not sure of the details but pretty sure it bolts on if you get all the parts
We haven’t heard of doing this, and we’re not really sure if they’re compatible, which is why we worked with Alcon to develop this kit 🔥
@@tacomabeast Do you even forum bro?
Do they work with trd 17” wheels?
Yep!
? HOW OLD WAS THE OEM BRAKES? BEFORE YOU TESTED THEM!
We replaced them with newer OEM brakes prior to testing 🤙
You made a nice video! However, any new brakes will be better than your old OEMs. If you had installed a new OEM brakes and tested those against the Alcon's you would have had a better comparison. I realize that's cost prohibitive but...
That’s exactly what we did. We swapped the OEM kit for a new one.
@@tacomabeast new OEM brakes?
@@tacomabeast I think you misunderstood. To get a fair comparison you need new OEM brakes vs. Alcon.
Yep we changed the OEM kit for a new set of OEM’s before running the test to make it a fair fight 🤙
Is nice but my truck comes with 16" wheels.....😕 Can't fit this kit and I don't want 17" wheels...
That makes sense 🤙
How many miles do the stock brakes have on them? I noticed about 60k on the truck.
We replaced the stock brakes before the test! 🤙
Nice - My apologies if I missed that detail.
Why don't you add a new dust cover that fits?
We Are working on that!
Wow Rear too??
We’re working with Alcon for the rear disc conversion kit 🙌
Why not convert rear to disc brakes?
It’s coming, stay tuned
Question I was driving around 40-50mph and then I started breaking for a stop sign and my truck had trouble breaking it kinda made a sound and it would break and then move forward 3 times not sure why it only had 7k miles
Sometimes the disk breaks slip, although I would get that checked out because its very rare and could also mean your break fluid line is leaking somewhere
@@tacomabeast thanks for the info
You ran an OEM kit that’s seen tens of thousands of miles of off-road abuse, cross country travel, and weather against a brand new aftermarket kit. IMO shoulda I stalled new pads & rotors that were OEM then proceeded with the test.
We installed a new oem kit before running the tests to make it a fair fight 🙌
@@tacomabeast shit did I miss that in the video 😂 guess that’s what I get for watching while doing an oil change