Because these two have been complaining about NRS games since Injustice 1. I'm not capping. It doesn't make their point less valid, but Injustice 1, MKX, Injustice 2 MK11 and now this game. You may still be able to find a lot of the podcast from those times.
A lot of people think True Underdawg is a shill. I don't personally think so, but he does try to be more positive about Mortal Kombat 1 than other kontent creators.
@@earlthepearl6414Súper is the worse in my opinion because he said he enjoys MK 1 but his views has drop but notice he got more request and views for MK 11 gameplay videos and he said he don’t enjoy MK 11 gameplay but he will upload MK 11 gameplay videos for his fans or viewers/fallowers. So his doing it for views, so if he gotta farm views with MK 1 hate he will it seems. To me if you wanna upload videos about MK 1 go ahead, but don’t be fake and stop playing it because his views drop for MK 1 content.
The most hype for mk1 is when the game dies. Edit: LMAO, THEY ADDED IN BONUS XP! IT SHOWS THAT THEY ARE DYING SLOWLY! (Not that I care since it doesn't earn you 50% of exp, it just earns you only 5%.)
are you implying that the game is not dead already? a huge number of players who played the game in the first 3 months probably left this 💩game and moved on with their lives me included.
This tournament was the most cringe thing i ever watched. A Mortal Kombat tournament with assists and superheroes. I hope they feel ashamed and embarrassed for ruining what this game could have been.
Hey Tom! Would you be willing to bring a random current mk1 pro player and a current casual player on stream to have their voices heard? Like Xombat and one of your subscribers for example
I’m sure he’d try to get more players on if they were interested. I think REO loves the game and doesn’t want to argue with Tom or he’s retired. Gone FOREVER 😢 And Crimson Shadow doesn’t wanna criticize the game as freely as Tom either.
Boring, goofy GUEST character. Guest characters in general 😵💫 At least Jason felt like an MK character a bit cos he’s a classic horror movie character. OOPS: I mean, ‘klassic’ 😝
I think another thing that sucks about this situation we are in with MK1 is that I remember the Devs saying that this will be the LONGEST supported MK game, which I would assume will be alive/supported longer than MK11. This game hasn't even been out 1 year and its DRY AF! This is gonna be torture..... side note: This game definitely feels like a Reverted Injustice Game with MK skins and moves. The movement, normals, jumps (floaty), Neutral, etc....feels like an injustice game. Not to mention all the Super Hero's they keep adding to the game...
@@just_2swiftNRS is not going to do that. This game is making them money, a lot of it, despite many not liking it. The game sold well, the DLC characters sold well, and Kombat pack 2, and the expansion of the story mode will sell as well. Why would they kill off the game when it's making them a ton of money? NRS will pull the plug on this game when they are nearly complete with the next game.
@nukestatic4951 all fighting games do. To go for the most damaging combos which leads to people doing the same combo. Killer instinct had different properties with combo enders which leg to people doing different combos. One would wall splat you. Another gave you more meter, another gave you the damage
Haven't listened yet but let me guess. Tom says the best ability is availability and then says poke p-poke p-poke. Talks about how khameleon carries characters and how MK1 sucks.
I truly like the game but they really need to do something with peacemaker. Johnny maybe better buy no one wants to fight peacemaker throwing out eagly, gin shots, darts and turning on forcefield every 3 seconds. They need to buff tyne lower tier characters and cameos and delete peacemaker and the game will be fine.
Let this sink in guys you see peacemaker more than scorpion and Sub-zero in they’re own game that’s tells you everything you need to know the game sucks bad 👉🏾👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽
Ed has no clue and never did after MK9. While Paulo controls all the balancing and meta decisions who also has to convince Ed to approve it/go with it. Lots of outsourcing especially in Animation and QA department. Also 99% of the studio does not play the game except to check their work and QA to bug report the game.
I would say he had no clue even during MK9 since that’s when the story itself got even worse with their timeline bs and constant retcons. Nobody knew MK as well as John Tobias did, and I’d argue that the franchise began to slowly get worse and worse ever since it’s true creator left Midway during the production of Special Forces. Ed Boon has proven far too many times that he clearly doesn’t understand MK and it painfully shows.
@@EpicJasonX9000 The other problem with NRS is its full of dinosaurs. The vast majority of the NRS crew are the original MK team that survived the Midway closures. They only have 1 "famous" former pro player as a Lead QA now, but he was way more into the game and the meta until Paulo and the studio crushed his spirits. One of the designers is a former pro player that beat Sonic at CB during MKX days, but Paulo controls the meta and "balancing" by playing the characters in Practice mode with the frame data tool. Animation is mostly outsourced, Art is heavily outsourced especially the concept art, Kore Tech is full of dinosaurs and young leads that don't care, Gameplay Programming is full of dinosaurs and young leads that don't care. Design is full of dinosaurs. DK is a former QA guy turned Designer turned Lead, Paulo is a true dinosaur, and 3 other designers are dinosaurs, the 1 young blood designer is still an associate and not allowed to take over characters or balance. Just Paulo "Bitch Work". The whole studio doesn't play the game for passion and fun. They only play when they need to check their work or some bug report. Even their in-house QA is full of young people just trying to get their first AAA title to find work elsewhere. They don't give 2 shits about the FGC or MK meta. They're just there for the pay and the industry experience to bounce. But Chicago has only NRS as the major AAA, and the other are not as secure or famous like NRS. Iron Galaxy needs to do a KI 2 to keep NRS on its toes b/c IG during those days scoped up a lot of the younger NRS people. And High Voltage Software is a just a typical port/support house.
The meta is so bad. The poke, micro duck, barely negative string into D1 or not... Its just so rudimentary and boring. I am glad you are focusing on this because since MK11, this meta has been so bad and the lack of fast mids has killed this game. Add that on top of NRS fumbling the ball constantly and lack of care is just maddening.
Game was doomed from the start. They used the kameos to justify the weak characters to save time on a rushed product they just used the multiverse assist mechanic from injustice 2 towers.
YT content creators that almost never criticize the game and have half a million subscribers and rely on monetization of their videos, but not all of them. You can guess whom 😝 but it’s debatable. Maybe Tom would agree with my statement.
The HP decrease on Khameleon isnt gonna nerf HER, its gonna nerf other characters that already have lower hp and work with Khameleon. This game needs a major rework.
I mean the poke system just looks stupid If you land a d1 you should be able to go into a quick string that ends in knockdown or special move. But nope they flinch if they mash you can jail them into your fastest button it just doesn’t link there’s no flow to it and animation wise looks jank. Like why do d1 and d3 do the same thing? Why does d4 exist to what make them stumble. It’s just awful
funny when i was playing i ran into rewind and wound cowboy in ranked. beat wound a few times messaged both got no response. Even though i remember wound from old forums tym or mku. and I definitely noticed people rather insult and be salty rather than set up training partners to both get better.
The one and dones in tekken never bothered me, there will always be people like that and I personally like the choice to not have to play again. The big problem for me is the inability to keep playing if both players wish to. No infinite rematch even in quick play kills some enjoyment for me
I haven't started yet and I already know this will be the same thing as always, which is good for me because I find these bitch sessions relaxing at work lol
lol if my job wasn’t boring ya I wouldn’t be listening to this as much anymore but I have an 8 hour shift to waste with nothing else to listen to lol that’s the only reason I still listen to these guys. Just to kill the time lol 😂
I get the frustration tom but you gotta let the co host get his words out hes on your side bro dont let the trash game blind you to your actual friends
I learned this lesson that Tom talks about with witnessing Ninja stream SF6 on its launch to 2 million twitch streamers while Justin Wong had like 500.
At least one of the reasons they don’t communicate is cos they make mistakes and don’t admit it; like reverting Cyrax and then re-nerfing him and not putting it in the patch notes so even players like SonicFox don’t know what’s intentional or not 😂 I personally appreciate being told when mistakes happen so there is a good chance they’ll be fixed.
The cold hard truth is that Mortal Kombat lost its soul ever since it’s true creator, John Tobias, left Midway back in 2000 during the production of Special Forces. It’s heart on the other hand hasn’t been the same since MK Armageddon, and to be brutally honest, it should of just ended there. If that game was the finale of the franchise despite the writing of the 3D era not being as strong, I would of been fine with it. But no. And sadly, it’s all been downhill ever since.
I loved MK so much in my teen years. 9 and X was basically my entry way into fighting games. Even 11 at least gave me something to do even though nowadays I consider it trash. I never bought MK1, but played it day 1 at a friend’s house and thought it was…alright, and never really kept up with the game aside from seeing stuff about the guest fighters. I’ve been in an MK mood lately and decided to watch a few videos about MK1. Holy shit, this game looks like hot diarrhea melting in the sun. What the fuck happened? $70 for the base game, another $40 for a DLC character pack, absurd monetization for something as small as one finisher or an announcer voice, and it’s missing basic content and features that were standard in the game from 2011? Are you kidding me? No wonder people shit on MK nowadays, this is just depressing.
It's the whole ranking system in T8 in general and I've seen a decent amount of players that are content creators complain about it offhandedly on occasion. I don't think it's as nefarious as I think it was implied here as to why we aren't seeing it in the forefront for content channels. It falls under the whole rank match system design in general and the actual pro and top players don't deal with the issue as often so it's just naturally not as relevant to them. Which I think all they need to do for rank to fix the 1 and done is add a multiplier to the points rewarded and lost. You lose less points for playing a full set and you gain more points for a full set. Some players are begging for the deathmatch to come back in T8 rank but that'll only exasperate the issue of cherry pickers, not fix it. Plus FT2 I think is a better learning experience for tournament competitive play overall and I know I'm not the only player that thinks this. I should also point out the other elephant in the room since you guys seemed to forget, why is quick match exactly the same as rank? There is literally no reason to play quick match as of right now unless you are scared of losing points. Quick match should in the very least allow infinite rematching unlike rank mode. I remember Mike Hollow mentioning this but I don't think you guys mentioned this at all in the podcast. The entire online in T8 is a joke of a format, not only rank. Tekken Ball is like hidden in the back for the fight lounges and forgotten about for most players and can only be accessed from the fight lounge for online. Oh and I remember Tom mentioning MK still lacks an online practice mode, that reminds me T8 still doesn't have co-op practice mode for online like Tag 2 had. T8 ain't in a bad spot now but it can be so much better with some qol improvements and keeping to their promises with no more surprise additions like the Tekken shop.
last thing MK11 is a faster playing game than MK1 and the kombat is better and it's more fun to watch. MK11 is not a great game but it's better than MK1 i'll fucking die on that hill.
Ninjakilla so much better than having to play peacemaker. He has skills and abiltys i could never have with fighting games and is just to good to play peacemaker. Netherealm should be embarrassed one of the most exciting players to watch is playing such a boring character bc its the only way to compete. Kp 2 has to go full on broken horror characters away from this superhero crap or this game is over
I am very disappointed in MK1 ! I thought we would have more mechanics offensive and defensive wise. There is nothing in this game to keep you locked in. If the next game sucks like this one or is worse, it's truly over for Mortal Kombat. Three strikes your out !
Great points all over for sure. The game is trash and they can only come back with a major patch that adds new moves,new modes, new maps, and fixes the derpy unfluid look the game has. We truly are in the bad mk timeline like you mentioned lmao
Game also needs a counter hit system. That changes the properties of special moves. Mileena ball roll hard knockdown but based on a counter hit or a combo that start from counter hit it launches and allows you to do things after and so on for everybody
@@EggZackLeeee I believe it. They’re a team full of people worried about outside shit like politics than to make a good game. These are all Nrs decisions the gameplay was never the idea of wb they just said make a good game with lots of monetizing
So much down one gameplay in MK1 it's worse than MK11. Down 1 is the meta in MK1 and that's just unreal for a modern fighting game to be reduced to that . Clearly NRS has lost there ability to make a great game.
They aren’t viable that’s the thing . The gaps in between strings , the bad frame data, you’ll lose to the “top tiers” because of that. So if you play against someone who can actually see what’s going on, it’s literally like mathematically impossible to win type shit (chip damage.. you gotta think about ALL that)
@@IDK-bd8he yea plus it's pig of the hut who he's talking about when he says "nrs has been working so hard" Tom said on a couple of pods ago that pig told him that
I can only speculate but people who get called shills commonly are True underdawg Gaming, Super, and Ketchup and Mustard. I don't know who Brady is saying are shills, but those people are the ones I hear people call shills mostly.
Can someone name the shills they're referring to and their channels. Besides trueunderdog, i haven't heard a lot of people speaking only positive about the game. Everyone has gripes about the game. These guys just continue to speak about it. While others move on.
What Tom doesn't seem to understand, is that Khameleon's availability is there to compensate her randomness and that you CAN'T pick her attacks any time you want, unlike what happens with the other kameos. You take away her availability and you kill the kameo, it's like taking away Sub Zero's shield, Scorpion's breath, Janet's punches, Sareena's blades, etc. She doesn't do big damage like other kameos, you can't have a base health or an increased health, and you can't pick her attacks like what happens with the other kameos, so of course, she needs to have something better than other kameos, in this case, it's her availability. That means that if you play Khameleon it's an auto-win? No, you have to play smart and adapt your playstyle to her morphing states, it's not like playing Kano or Lao that you can throw any unsafe move and save your ass just by pressing one button. The problem is not that most of the players use her, the problem is that there aren't good alternatives...make the other kameos more viable and don't breake the ones that are working, otherwise you'll have a Top 4 on the tournaments made by Peacemaker/Kano exclusively.
1:04:00 there are those like me, who wants to play stronger players and when I do I have the skill to adapt and adapt very quickly, and when I do, the pros rage on me in casuals, not even in Kombat league. Id play them all day, they are the ones with the attitude "hold that" when in cases I am unable to beat them because I only play smoke and some characters at certain skill level smoke just can't keep up with.
NBA 2k21 was the last 2k I grinded on or spent some money making builds . Got tired of being robbed. Came back in on 23 but only made 2 builds and grinded them from the bottom . Didn’t even finish grinding them past 90. 2k robs you crazy on the amount it takes to upgrade your player. 200k use to get your player 82-85 overall. But when animations and gear is so expensive it takes the fun out of it
As a casual, I can 100% say I hated mk11 and mk1. I liked mk9 and loved mkx. Bring back mkx, make run one button, make block breaks 1 bar and I will be happy.
The irony of NRS's games, of all fighting game developers, falling to the casual-veteran divide, is rather ironic. That is, given that they were the _one_ developer to pioneer a dedicated "Kasual" game mode for non "tournament" (e-sports) play. Yet, despite having this demarcated and dedicated game mode, allowing for the freedom of character designs to run wild, it has been _their_ games which have ended up so horridly homomgenised and "balanced" into utter oblivion. It's almost like, since MKX (if not before), the left hand hasn't known what the right hand has been doing at NRS... Either that, or this move to make everything same-y in the pastime of gaming -- seemingly, in order to allow increasingly costly development to be "streamlined" and investment to be re-focused on milking continual content additions (in the manner or "games as a service" by another name) -- has now completely enveloped the fighting game genre too. So, if the latter is indeed the case, and MK1, SF6, and T8 are the slippery slope for the genre moving forward, I, for one, am done with the genre. After all, there are myriad legitimately good and FUN fighters already in existence -- why do I need these dumbed-down, homogenised, coma inducing, "tournament compliant" turds wasting my time and energy? The answer: Unless I'm following tournament scene -- something I haven't done proper since the MKX / SFIV era -- there is no reason to waste time with these mortifying "modern fighters" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Optional tag like MK9 and what everyone would have liked. Boon said tag wasn’t requested that much after 9 but that was before internet connections for online gaming and netcode had gotten much better.
36:50 Really? I follow a lot of MK channels of varying fanbases: some provide knowledge/tutorials, some critique the state of the game, some stream tournaments, some showcase gameplay. All of the channel organizers as well as the people in their comments were annoyed by Johnny/Peacemaker in Final Kombat.
Go back to mkx plz just build off that and master that style. Towards the end of mkx the game was actually kind of balanced kind of lol but it was fun and exciting to watch
I knew this when they showed the trailer and introduced the kameo system 😂I been playing mk11 the last couple weeks if they don’t get the next game right I think it’s over for Nrs!
buff ideas, spread the word Havoc: He needs at least five new attack strings, he needs his legacy move that titan havoc has were he takes off his head and rolls it but its a mid, has the same affect as reptiles acid ball, and also hits mid exploding on contact. he also needs another one of his legacy moves that again titan havoc has where he bends his hole body for a low projectile and the amp of that can be a knock down allowing for combo extentions for cameos like scorpion Sub-zero: he needs his attack strings made slightly faster except for his overhead, he also needs 1 or 2 new attack string launchers, both his regular and amp iceball needs to be faster to not only be able to combo with it off of normal attack strings but in juggle combos too. He should have the ability to throw his ice clone, i also think he should have his ice burst special back with the same proporties as mkx to compliment his ice clone(but just does not send you that far away). lastly he needs some of his damage scailing off ground freeze. Scorpion: should be buffed by making his amp ground tp a launcher again and make the cancel built in to both his regular and amp tp. buff the amp hellfire move by removing the damage over time and making it function like how it does in mkx allowing him to combo after hitting it. he needs new strings some mix ups(i personally want his mkx overhead back). some moves need to be sped up Quan shi: needs his mind control move from mkx back, and make half his attack strings faster. and finally his low tentacle needs to be one bar Raiden: change raiden's b2 back to the mkx launcher but make it as slow as sub'z b2. give him back his vicinity blast move back with the same properties as mkx. Give him back his mkx amp lightning projectile back for combo extentions but have his regular fully charged move have the same proportys as the amp. he also needs to be buffed by making his amp electrocute special launch no matter how many bars he uses liu kang: for starters nerf his f4 one button pressure but give him his 113 mkx launcher back along with maybe 2 or 3 more new attack strings to make up for his pressure and to make it less braindead. make his low fireball slightly faster, change his air fireball to the mkx fireball and the amp the one we have now. give him back his mk 11 dragon parry, and finally make his fatal blow start up 2 hits but the first one restands kung lao: nerf tf out of his wake up special by making it unsafe af on block. give him back his mkx or 9 spin back but have it have work the same as mk11 so he can use it more than two times in a combo. swap his dive kick now for a mix between his mkx or 9 dive kick. he needs his mkx tp, and his low hat back, but nerf his mix up buttion's he has now by making the overhead follow up slightly slower. give him his mk11 21212 attack string and his mkx 44 launcher attack string back. and also he needs his hat spin. Nitara: buff her by making her command dash like homelander so for instance all of her normal attack strings that leaves her in the air cost no bar anymore to command dash and it cost no bar when she is in the air command dashing for combos but the next one after that does. and also make fer overhead that leaver her in the air slightly faster. she should also be able plus after hitting her bf2 special allowing her to cameo combo after it. lastly give her back her legacy projectile move back. Reiko: give him his invasion boss special move, the one is like jades dead butterfly move from mk11 but it launches and he uses his spear(this is already in the game files btw). give this guy at least 1 more special move that involes his knife that's on his person but he never uses for some reason. he needs like 5 new normal attack stings involving his knife and his spear, maybe 2 of them be launchers. y'all stay tune i got more heat for every character
Let’s be honest, there’s several ways they could “nerf” Johnny to make him on the same playing field as everyone else. Making his 8 frame shadow kick a little slower won’t hurt him, making 1-2 of his 50/50 strings a little more punishable won’t hurt him…all for the very reasons you make for other characters. I hope instead they just buff everyone but they’re clearly holding on to a MK11 “very balanced game” mindset….balanced use loosely
It’s crazy how Tom hates on mk11 so hard when talking about it nowadays. But even on his channel from like 2019-2021 he has in depth guides and tech videos where he clearly loves the game, he even says that it’s the best fighting game out there, in his in depth wake-up guide from 2019. I feel like Tom forgets the love he had for mk11 and sub zero in mk11. “Sub zero is awesome in mk11 ultimate” is even a video title. I miss those days tbh, I miss the in depth guides and tutorials that Tom used to put out there. Like I understand he has many qualms with mk1, but I would love to see his in depth guides and tutorials return, that was some of my favorite content out there
MK11 has problems but no way is it as bad as some of the other fighting games over the years. Even games that ppl ended up praising like my formerly beloved SF3: 3S wasn’t honestly that good cos 2 characters dominated the game and it had less than 20 characters. Some were barely playable. MK11 had my boy Fujin as almost undeniably the cheapest and best character but at least 7 characters were top-tier and many others were playable. The mechanics like an insane wake-up system, breakaways and unbreakable fatal blows for an easy comeback were the main issues.
At this point, what is even keeping yall around? Not that you are wrong, in fact your complaints have been valid for years but what do you even gain from sticking around with a series that shows so little improvement?
31:36 tom you were a waaaaaay better aquaman anyways, not trying to be an ass i really feel like that plus injustice 1 might be my fav game all time it’s close with it and X
@51:29 This is why I'm no longer playing any NRS title or WB title ever again. They didn't even know who ed boon was and had to be told he was the creator of MK.... HOW ??? wtf ..I'm done this franchise is dead.
Agreed on 5% less on khameleon now for us with low mid kharscters got fucked it’s like forcing us to pick others kameos that are not good so we just end up dropping the game
we as a people have to stop holding NRS to the same standards as japanese fighting game devs. they dont have the same sauce as capcom, bandai namco, arcsys etc. expecting fleshed out archetypes in mk is a fools errand. they dont understand archetypes like the eastern devs do. they consider reiko a grappler just because he has 2 command grabs... that should tell you all you need to know
The only true grapplers nrs made were bane, Solomon grundy, commando kano and couple more. As a grappler main I've been depressed playing mk1 and I'm sure majority of the grappler mains have too 😔
I heavily disagree with the idea that mileena ball roll is “just a bonus” it’s a huge part of what makes her so strong. D1 into ball roll is practically unreactable especially online. Feel like you just don’t want that part nerfed because you need it for sub zero 😂
28:30 is honestly a reach ngl, it was bad but it wasn’t THAT bad, all i wish for is that one day we get a broken fun mk game, makes me sad to see my favorite fighting franchise like this
Mkx pokes was plus 20 on hit some times more . Mk 1 u lucky if a poke is plus 15 . Suddenly 12 frame mids are so good lol . I will say I hated a lot of stuff in mk 9 random frame data Kabal Johnny cyrax with those long ass combos. I'm not sure if mk9 meta was that great tbh . Mk1 needs help tho and nrs is too incompetent to even hear the outcry of the community.
@@just_2swift yeah on hit it was some very plus pokes . Nobody was trying to dog anything look it up if you think I'm capping. Takeda d4 was plus 27 on hit kano d1 was +25 on hit and many others were very plus on hit . You just yappin very plus pokes also prevent the os that tom was talking about . y'all say stuff without even knowing what you are talking about why??
What NRS did with MK11 & MK1, just Imagine if Capcom and Namco went the same route with Street Fighter & Tekken. TWO BACK TO BACK GAMES LIKE MK11 & MK1 within 5 years where they stripped down their characters and gameplay. We would be in the Dark Ages of fighting games because all 3 studios would be trash simultaneously if that happened 💯
I look forward to these New Era Podcasts - I really enjoy them!
I feel like I've been watching the same podcast over and over and over again.
Because these two have been complaining about NRS games since Injustice 1. I'm not capping.
It doesn't make their point less valid, but Injustice 1, MKX, Injustice 2 MK11 and now this game.
You may still be able to find a lot of the podcast from those times.
Cuz nrs only cares about making the board members at AT&T and it’s mutual fund holders happy, the message nrs is given, go make us piles of $$$$
@@sabrvibes3147no way 😂
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Podcast #32 Addressing The Drama
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Blame the devs
Dude I really love these videos.😊
nothing more hype than Down 1
Poke poke poke
Do unsafe special, call kameo to make it safe, call kameo to try to chip out and steal turns, run away until kameo bar refills, etc.
He may say it’s Scorpion but Johnny is Ed Boons favorite character
Love how real you are Brady, I don’t even play MK anymore but I still listen to these out of entertainment and respect!
For some reasom reason the second I hear shell I think of trueunderdawg 😂
Don't forget Mustard & Ketchup. Super is pretty bad too.
A lot of people think True Underdawg is a shill. I don't personally think so, but he does try to be more positive about Mortal Kombat 1 than other kontent creators.
@@earlthepearl6414your comment is approved 💯
@@theretrogamingnerd3316sounds like you’re a shill too
@@earlthepearl6414Súper is the worse in my opinion because he said he enjoys MK 1 but his views has drop but notice he got more request and views for MK 11 gameplay videos and he said he don’t enjoy MK 11 gameplay but he will upload MK 11 gameplay videos for his fans or viewers/fallowers. So his doing it for views, so if he gotta farm views with MK 1 hate he will it seems. To me if you wanna upload videos about MK 1 go ahead, but don’t be fake and stop playing it because his views drop for MK 1 content.
The most hype for mk1 is when the game dies.
Edit: LMAO, THEY ADDED IN BONUS XP! IT SHOWS THAT THEY ARE DYING SLOWLY! (Not that I care since it doesn't earn you 50% of exp, it just earns you only 5%.)
LoL not happening
Its gonna happen, lmao
@@jahdorose8659 its already happening
@@jahdorose8659 This game sucks incredibly hard.
are you implying that the game is not dead already?
a huge number of players who played the game in the first 3 months probably left this 💩game and moved on with their lives me included.
NRS is the type that will “fix” one thing and then completely destroy something else in the game at the same time
NRS does the bare minimum, every single time.
This tournament was the most cringe thing i ever watched. A Mortal Kombat tournament with assists and superheroes. I hope they feel ashamed and embarrassed for ruining what this game could have been.
Hey Tom! Would you be willing to bring a random current mk1 pro player and a current casual player on stream to have their voices heard? Like Xombat and one of your subscribers for example
I want him to have sikkander on one time.
@@jaxfan Exactly! Like you and sikkander for example
I’m sure he’d try to get more players on if they were interested. I think REO loves the game and doesn’t want to argue with Tom or he’s retired. Gone FOREVER 😢 And Crimson Shadow doesn’t wanna criticize the game as freely as Tom either.
This game looks so stupid when characters are just moving around, especially cage.
Very jank
Nah it’s stupid bc everyone just plus on everything
Stiff and janky animations run the mk meta.
ima be honest the majority of the mk community is dog water, dont wanna learn the game and is scared to play sweaty matches
Whole bunch of bums
I agree but no one wants to fight peacemaker. He's the worst mk character of all time
Boring, goofy GUEST character. Guest characters in general 😵💫 At least Jason felt like an MK character a bit cos he’s a classic horror movie character. OOPS: I mean, ‘klassic’ 😝
In 2024, I’m far more excited about the 30th anniversary of both Killer Instinct and Primal Rage, than anything that NRS is currently doing.
I think another thing that sucks about this situation we are in with MK1 is that I remember the Devs saying that this will be the LONGEST supported MK game, which I would assume will be alive/supported longer than MK11. This game hasn't even been out 1 year and its DRY AF! This is gonna be torture.....
side note: This game definitely feels like a Reverted Injustice Game with MK skins and moves. The movement, normals, jumps (floaty), Neutral, etc....feels like an injustice game. Not to mention all the Super Hero's they keep adding to the game...
I think jumps are floaty to allow for air combos 😂 Bummer if that’s the reason.
MK1 is horrible and cant be fixed
I’m surprised they didn’t pull the plug like mk11. It’s time to put this game out of its misery.
MK1 Repeats the same combos over and over
@@just_2swiftNRS is not going to do that. This game is making them money, a lot of it, despite many not liking it. The game sold well, the DLC characters sold well, and Kombat pack 2, and the expansion of the story mode will sell as well. Why would they kill off the game when it's making them a ton of money? NRS will pull the plug on this game when they are nearly complete with the next game.
@@theretrogamingnerd3316 MK11 sold well DLC kombat pack 2 story expansion and they still killed the game.
@nukestatic4951 all fighting games do. To go for the most damaging combos which leads to people doing the same combo. Killer instinct had different properties with combo enders which leg to people doing different combos. One would wall splat you. Another gave you more meter, another gave you the damage
Haven't listened yet but let me guess. Tom says the best ability is availability and then says poke p-poke p-poke. Talks about how khameleon carries characters and how MK1 sucks.
Spot on
😂😂😂
I truly like the game but they really need to do something with peacemaker. Johnny maybe better buy no one wants to fight peacemaker throwing out eagly, gin shots, darts and turning on forcefield every 3 seconds. They need to buff tyne lower tier characters and cameos and delete peacemaker and the game will be fine.
Let this sink in guys you see peacemaker more than scorpion and Sub-zero in they’re own game that’s tells you everything you need to know the game sucks bad 👉🏾👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽
Ed has no clue and never did after MK9. While Paulo controls all the balancing and meta decisions who also has to convince Ed to approve it/go with it. Lots of outsourcing especially in Animation and QA department. Also 99% of the studio does not play the game except to check their work and QA to bug report the game.
I would say he had no clue even during MK9 since that’s when the story itself got even worse with their timeline bs and constant retcons. Nobody knew MK as well as John Tobias did, and I’d argue that the franchise began to slowly get worse and worse ever since it’s true creator left Midway during the production of Special Forces. Ed Boon has proven far too many times that he clearly doesn’t understand MK and it painfully shows.
@@EpicJasonX9000 The other problem with NRS is its full of dinosaurs. The vast majority of the NRS crew are the original MK team that survived the Midway closures. They only have 1 "famous" former pro player as a Lead QA now, but he was way more into the game and the meta until Paulo and the studio crushed his spirits. One of the designers is a former pro player that beat Sonic at CB during MKX days, but Paulo controls the meta and "balancing" by playing the characters in Practice mode with the frame data tool. Animation is mostly outsourced, Art is heavily outsourced especially the concept art, Kore Tech is full of dinosaurs and young leads that don't care, Gameplay Programming is full of dinosaurs and young leads that don't care. Design is full of dinosaurs. DK is a former QA guy turned Designer turned Lead, Paulo is a true dinosaur, and 3 other designers are dinosaurs, the 1 young blood designer is still an associate and not allowed to take over characters or balance. Just Paulo "Bitch Work". The whole studio doesn't play the game for passion and fun. They only play when they need to check their work or some bug report. Even their in-house QA is full of young people just trying to get their first AAA title to find work elsewhere. They don't give 2 shits about the FGC or MK meta. They're just there for the pay and the industry experience to bounce. But Chicago has only NRS as the major AAA, and the other are not as secure or famous like NRS. Iron Galaxy needs to do a KI 2 to keep NRS on its toes b/c IG during those days scoped up a lot of the younger NRS people. And High Voltage Software is a just a typical port/support house.
The meta is so bad. The poke, micro duck, barely negative string into D1 or not... Its just so rudimentary and boring. I am glad you are focusing on this because since MK11, this meta has been so bad and the lack of fast mids has killed this game. Add that on top of NRS fumbling the ball constantly and lack of care is just maddening.
if more characters had mids or just even overhead/low mixups like MKX, this would be a better game
wdym pokes micro duck the khameleon meta lets you play without playing neutral at all ^^
@@Jblog100 main problem is the kameo system its supposed to bring variety but in reality it just creates a boring meta around a few character combs
Game was doomed from the start. They used the kameos to justify the weak characters to save time on a rushed product they just used the multiverse assist mechanic from injustice 2 towers.
And MK11 towers
Can someone answer who the shills were? Lol im lost
YT content creators that almost never criticize the game and have half a million subscribers and rely on monetization of their videos, but not all of them. You can guess
whom 😝 but it’s debatable. Maybe Tom would agree with my statement.
If they made it possible to make the lows like D1 a combo starter or D4 would that help the game a little I’m curious and speed the game 0.25% more.??
The HP decrease on Khameleon isnt gonna nerf HER, its gonna nerf other characters that already have lower hp and work with Khameleon. This game needs a major rework.
Tom said I’m done trynna be positive again 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hate i need kameos to extend combos and get minimum damage. I hate it because every kameo dont fit with every player and i end up using scorpion 😂😂😂
We don’t deserve Tom. This game has no soul.
Tom brady try not to complain for 1 video challenge (impossible)
Mk1 still sucks
Dude hit it right on the nail it feels like a whole new company made MK1
I mean the poke system just looks stupid If you land a d1 you should be able to go into a quick string that ends in knockdown or special move. But nope they flinch if they mash you can jail them into your fastest button it just doesn’t link there’s no flow to it and animation wise looks jank. Like why do d1 and d3 do the same thing? Why does d4 exist to what make them stumble. It’s just awful
funny when i was playing i ran into rewind and wound cowboy in ranked. beat wound a few times messaged both got no response. Even though i remember wound from old forums tym or mku. and I definitely noticed people rather insult and be salty rather than set up training partners to both get better.
Project MK1 Day 1 developers meeting be like... Introducing one of our new mechanics... CAMEO, but with the K. Fckn Genius!
The one and dones in tekken never bothered me, there will always be people like that and I personally like the choice to not have to play again. The big problem for me is the inability to keep playing if both players wish to. No infinite rematch even in quick play kills some enjoyment for me
I haven't started yet and I already know this will be the same thing as always, which is good for me because I find these bitch sessions relaxing at work lol
lol if my job wasn’t boring ya I wouldn’t be listening to this as much anymore but I have an 8 hour shift to waste with nothing else to listen to lol that’s the only reason I still listen to these guys. Just to kill the time lol 😂
@@dragonmoon869i listen to Tom on my way to and from work
I get the frustration tom but you gotta let the co host get his words out hes on your side bro dont let the trash game blind you to your actual friends
Video currently has no sound for me
Has all the sound for me.
@@SuperJJParker Now it has sound for some reason lol
@@Gabriel-Bap-Almit happens when you’re super early
I learned this lesson that Tom talks about with witnessing Ninja stream SF6 on its launch to 2 million twitch streamers while Justin Wong had like 500.
so fuckin sad.
NinjaKillah ?
Ninja from fortnite is more popular than justin wong.
That's not a hot take. I'm not surprised by that.
At least one of the reasons they don’t communicate is cos they make mistakes and don’t admit it; like reverting Cyrax and then re-nerfing him and not putting it in the patch notes so even players like SonicFox don’t know what’s intentional or not 😂 I personally appreciate being told when mistakes happen so there is a good chance they’ll be fixed.
The cold hard truth is that Mortal Kombat lost its soul ever since it’s true creator, John Tobias, left Midway back in 2000 during the production of Special Forces. It’s heart on the other hand hasn’t been the same since MK Armageddon, and to be brutally honest, it should of just ended there. If that game was the finale of the franchise despite the writing of the 3D era not being as strong, I would of been fine with it.
But no.
And sadly, it’s all been downhill ever since.
John Tobias had his OWN studio.
Studio Gigante and what was produced out of that studio?
Tao Feng and WrestleMania 21. Please ponder on that.
bro if you truly beleive those games from the 90s were better then these new ones, i am afraid you are just being nostalgic
Dude shut tf up and quit tryna villainize boon
I loved MK so much in my teen years. 9 and X was basically my entry way into fighting games. Even 11 at least gave me something to do even though nowadays I consider it trash.
I never bought MK1, but played it day 1 at a friend’s house and thought it was…alright, and never really kept up with the game aside from seeing stuff about the guest fighters. I’ve been in an MK mood lately and decided to watch a few videos about MK1.
Holy shit, this game looks like hot diarrhea melting in the sun. What the fuck happened? $70 for the base game, another $40 for a DLC character pack, absurd monetization for something as small as one finisher or an announcer voice, and it’s missing basic content and features that were standard in the game from 2011? Are you kidding me? No wonder people shit on MK nowadays, this is just depressing.
Bring back short hops for the ducking meta but make them safe or barely plus depending range and startup, also a universal push block would be nice.
It's the whole ranking system in T8 in general and I've seen a decent amount of players that are content creators complain about it offhandedly on occasion. I don't think it's as nefarious as I think it was implied here as to why we aren't seeing it in the forefront for content channels. It falls under the whole rank match system design in general and the actual pro and top players don't deal with the issue as often so it's just naturally not as relevant to them. Which I think all they need to do for rank to fix the 1 and done is add a multiplier to the points rewarded and lost. You lose less points for playing a full set and you gain more points for a full set. Some players are begging for the deathmatch to come back in T8 rank but that'll only exasperate the issue of cherry pickers, not fix it. Plus FT2 I think is a better learning experience for tournament competitive play overall and I know I'm not the only player that thinks this. I should also point out the other elephant in the room since you guys seemed to forget, why is quick match exactly the same as rank? There is literally no reason to play quick match as of right now unless you are scared of losing points. Quick match should in the very least allow infinite rematching unlike rank mode. I remember Mike Hollow mentioning this but I don't think you guys mentioned this at all in the podcast. The entire online in T8 is a joke of a format, not only rank. Tekken Ball is like hidden in the back for the fight lounges and forgotten about for most players and can only be accessed from the fight lounge for online. Oh and I remember Tom mentioning MK still lacks an online practice mode, that reminds me T8 still doesn't have co-op practice mode for online like Tag 2 had. T8 ain't in a bad spot now but it can be so much better with some qol improvements and keeping to their promises with no more surprise additions like the Tekken shop.
last thing MK11 is a faster playing game than MK1 and the kombat is better and it's more fun to watch. MK11 is not a great game but it's better than MK1 i'll fucking die on that hill.
Ninjakilla so much better than having to play peacemaker. He has skills and abiltys i could never have with fighting games and is just to good to play peacemaker. Netherealm should be embarrassed one of the most exciting players to watch is playing such a boring character bc its the only way to compete. Kp 2 has to go full on broken horror characters away from this superhero crap or this game is over
Ninjakilla had no choice but to compete, it's either Johnny or peacemaker. This Liu Kang barely functions, it's such a far cry from MKX Liu.
Tom is hilarious 😂 but he's telling the truth
I am very disappointed in MK1 ! I thought we would have more mechanics offensive and defensive wise. There is nothing in this game to keep you locked in. If the next game sucks like this one or is worse, it's truly over for Mortal Kombat. Three strikes your out !
I actually really like this game
Game is mad boring. Haven’t played in almost two weeks and I don’t plan on returning till takeda comes out
Same with me. Hopefully takeda is a ton of fun to play and I think he will be.
You guys a 100% right. Johnny peacemaker it's over powered in this game .Sucks.
Which is ironic because neither of them have powers lol 😂
BORING characters. Heheh
Great points all over for sure. The game is trash and they can only come back with a major patch that adds new moves,new modes, new maps, and fixes the derpy unfluid look the game has. We truly are in the bad mk timeline like you mentioned lmao
Game also needs a counter hit system. That changes the properties of special moves. Mileena ball roll hard knockdown but based on a counter hit or a combo that start from counter hit it launches and allows you to do things after and so on for everybody
That’s too much work for NRS lmao
@@EggZackLeeee I believe it. They’re a team full of people worried about outside shit like politics than to make a good game. These are all Nrs decisions the gameplay was never the idea of wb they just said make a good game with lots of monetizing
So much down one gameplay in MK1 it's worse than MK11. Down 1 is the meta in MK1 and that's just unreal for a modern fighting game to be reduced to that . Clearly NRS has lost there ability to make a great game.
If the top tiers aren't dominant in MK1 then how come no one picks anyone else? There's plenty of viable characters in MK1
there are and i wonder if he just doesn’t know how to play 😭 The characters are pretty doable but people get saved by Kameos.
They aren’t viable that’s the thing . The gaps in between strings , the bad frame data, you’ll lose to the “top tiers” because of that. So if you play against someone who can actually see what’s going on, it’s literally like mathematically impossible to win type shit (chip damage.. you gotta think about ALL that)
I agree. Ashrah, Tanya, Baraka rain, kenshi, Liu Kang, reiko, shao kahn are all pretty good too
I wonder what two shills Tom brady was referring too he sorta said he’s not referring to ketchup and mustard
Trueunderdawg is one forsure
@@dontedavis5184 for sure. Maybe it’s him and one of his co hosts on that one podcast they do
@@IDK-bd8he yea plus it's pig of the hut who he's talking about when he says "nrs has been working so hard" Tom said on a couple of pods ago that pig told him that
I can only speculate but people who get called shills commonly are True underdawg Gaming, Super, and Ketchup and Mustard. I don't know who Brady is saying are shills, but those people are the ones I hear people call shills mostly.
TrueUnderDawg and UncagedGames?! 😂 I think he doesn’t want to put anyone ‘on blast’; as the youngsters born in the 80s and later like to say 😝
Can someone name the shills they're referring to and their channels. Besides trueunderdog, i haven't heard a lot of people speaking only positive about the game. Everyone has gripes about the game. These guys just continue to speak about it. While others move on.
What Tom doesn't seem to understand, is that Khameleon's availability is there to compensate her randomness and that you CAN'T pick her attacks any time you want, unlike what happens with the other kameos. You take away her availability and you kill the kameo, it's like taking away Sub Zero's shield, Scorpion's breath, Janet's punches, Sareena's blades, etc.
She doesn't do big damage like other kameos, you can't have a base health or an increased health, and you can't pick her attacks like what happens with the other kameos, so of course, she needs to have something better than other kameos, in this case, it's her availability.
That means that if you play Khameleon it's an auto-win? No, you have to play smart and adapt your playstyle to her morphing states, it's not like playing Kano or Lao that you can throw any unsafe move and save your ass just by pressing one button.
The problem is not that most of the players use her, the problem is that there aren't good alternatives...make the other kameos more viable and don't breake the ones that are working, otherwise you'll have a Top 4 on the tournaments made by Peacemaker/Kano exclusively.
A problem with vg design has been power creep, well... NRS has invented a new problem: power sleep.
1:04:00 there are those like me, who wants to play stronger players and when I do I have the skill to adapt and adapt very quickly, and when I do, the pros rage on me in casuals, not even in Kombat league. Id play them all day, they are the ones with the attitude "hold that" when in cases I am unable to beat them because I only play smoke and some characters at certain skill level smoke just can't keep up with.
NBA 2k21 was the last 2k I grinded on or spent some money making builds . Got tired of being robbed. Came back in on 23 but only made 2 builds and grinded them from the bottom . Didn’t even finish grinding them past 90. 2k robs you crazy on the amount it takes to upgrade your player. 200k use to get your player 82-85 overall. But when animations and gear is so expensive it takes the fun out of it
As a casual, I can 100% say I hated mk11 and mk1. I liked mk9 and loved mkx.
Bring back mkx, make run one button, make block breaks 1 bar and I will be happy.
MK9 was a masterpiece
Definitely miss archetypes and neat matchups, and complete solo characters
The irony of NRS's games, of all fighting game developers, falling to the casual-veteran divide, is rather ironic. That is, given that they were the _one_ developer to pioneer a dedicated "Kasual" game mode for non "tournament" (e-sports) play. Yet, despite having this demarcated and dedicated game mode, allowing for the freedom of character designs to run wild, it has been _their_ games which have ended up so horridly homomgenised and "balanced" into utter oblivion. It's almost like, since MKX (if not before), the left hand hasn't known what the right hand has been doing at NRS... Either that, or this move to make everything same-y in the pastime of gaming -- seemingly, in order to allow increasingly costly development to be "streamlined" and investment to be re-focused on milking continual content additions (in the manner or "games as a service" by another name) -- has now completely enveloped the fighting game genre too. So, if the latter is indeed the case, and MK1, SF6, and T8 are the slippery slope for the genre moving forward, I, for one, am done with the genre. After all, there are myriad legitimately good and FUN fighters already in existence -- why do I need these dumbed-down, homogenised, coma inducing, "tournament compliant" turds wasting my time and energy? The answer: Unless I'm following tournament scene -- something I haven't done proper since the MKX / SFIV era -- there is no reason to waste time with these mortifying "modern fighters" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
46:03 funniest part of the video
EAGER to hear Tom’s take on the NEW BUFF patch AND IF he’s hype for TAKEDA FINALLY 😵😱
Daily reminder that mk1 should have just been a 2v2 tag game
Optional tag like MK9 and what everyone would have liked. Boon said tag wasn’t requested that much after 9 but that was before internet connections for online gaming and netcode had gotten much better.
36:50 Really?
I follow a lot of MK channels of varying fanbases: some provide knowledge/tutorials, some critique the state of the game, some stream tournaments, some showcase gameplay.
All of the channel organizers as well as the people in their comments were annoyed by Johnny/Peacemaker in Final Kombat.
Go back to mkx plz just build off that and master that style. Towards the end of mkx the game was actually kind of balanced kind of lol but it was fun and exciting to watch
I knew this when they showed the trailer and introduced the kameo system 😂I been playing mk11 the last couple weeks if they don’t get the next game right I think it’s over for Nrs!
buff ideas, spread the word
Havoc: He needs at least five new attack strings, he needs his legacy move that titan havoc has were he takes off his head and rolls it but its a mid, has the same affect as reptiles acid ball, and also hits mid exploding on contact. he also needs another one of his legacy moves that again titan havoc has where he bends his hole body for a low projectile and the amp of that can be a knock down allowing for combo extentions for cameos like scorpion
Sub-zero: he needs his attack strings made slightly faster except for his overhead, he also needs 1 or 2 new attack string launchers, both his regular and amp iceball needs to be faster to not only be able to combo with it off of normal attack strings but in juggle combos too. He should have the ability to throw his ice clone, i also think he should have his ice burst special back with the same proporties as mkx to compliment his ice clone(but just does not send you that far away). lastly he needs some of his damage scailing off ground freeze.
Scorpion: should be buffed by making his amp ground tp a launcher again and make the cancel built in to both his regular and amp tp. buff the amp hellfire move by removing the damage over time and making it function like how it does in mkx allowing him to combo after hitting it. he needs new strings some mix ups(i personally want his mkx overhead back). some moves need to be sped up
Quan shi: needs his mind control move from mkx back, and make half his attack strings faster. and finally his low tentacle needs to be one bar
Raiden: change raiden's b2 back to the mkx launcher but make it as slow as sub'z b2. give him back his vicinity blast move back with the same properties as mkx. Give him back his mkx amp lightning projectile back for combo extentions but have his regular fully charged move have the same proportys as the amp. he also needs to be buffed by making his amp electrocute special launch no matter how many bars he uses
liu kang: for starters nerf his f4 one button pressure but give him his 113 mkx launcher back along with maybe 2 or 3 more new attack strings to make up for his pressure and to make it less braindead. make his low fireball slightly faster, change his air fireball to the mkx fireball and the amp the one we have now. give him back his mk 11 dragon parry, and finally make his fatal blow start up 2 hits but the first one restands
kung lao: nerf tf out of his wake up special by making it unsafe af on block. give him back his mkx or 9 spin back but have it have work the same as mk11 so he can use it more than two times in a combo. swap his dive kick now for a mix between his mkx or 9 dive kick. he needs his mkx tp, and his low hat back, but nerf his mix up buttion's he has now by making the overhead follow up slightly slower. give him his mk11 21212 attack string and his mkx 44 launcher attack string back. and also he needs his hat spin.
Nitara: buff her by making her command dash like homelander so for instance all of her normal attack strings that leaves her in the air cost no bar anymore to command dash and it cost no bar when she is in the air command dashing for combos but the next one after that does. and also make fer overhead that leaver her in the air slightly faster. she should also be able plus after hitting her bf2 special allowing her to cameo combo after it. lastly give her back her legacy projectile move back.
Reiko: give him his invasion boss special move, the one is like jades dead butterfly move from mk11 but it launches and he uses his spear(this is already in the game files btw). give this guy at least 1 more special move that involes his knife that's on his person but he never uses for some reason. he needs like 5 new normal attack stings involving his knife and his spear, maybe 2 of them be launchers.
y'all stay tune i got more heat for every character
No, let it die.
Reiko’s in the Top 10, he doesn’t need anything.
nerf peacemaker: 4 eagles per round fixed. done.
@@SeanBjerke ain't no way you just said that bs
@@raphaels33 or buff everyone to peacmakers and johnny's level so yr trash ahh main can compete without having to use khameleon all the time
Let’s be honest, there’s several ways they could “nerf” Johnny to make him on the same playing field as everyone else. Making his 8 frame shadow kick a little slower won’t hurt him, making 1-2 of his 50/50 strings a little more punishable won’t hurt him…all for the very reasons you make for other characters. I hope instead they just buff everyone but they’re clearly holding on to a MK11 “very balanced game” mindset….balanced use loosely
Yeah he still has hella buttons that are plus 4 as well . I don't want to nerf him but to say he couldn't be touched is untrue
It’s crazy how Tom hates on mk11 so hard when talking about it nowadays. But even on his channel from like 2019-2021 he has in depth guides and tech videos where he clearly loves the game, he even says that it’s the best fighting game out there, in his in depth wake-up guide from 2019. I feel like Tom forgets the love he had for mk11 and sub zero in mk11. “Sub zero is awesome in mk11 ultimate” is even a video title. I miss those days tbh, I miss the in depth guides and tutorials that Tom used to put out there. Like I understand he has many qualms with mk1, but I would love to see his in depth guides and tutorials return, that was some of my favorite content out there
mk11 was bad 😭🙏
MK11 has problems but no way is it as bad as some of the other fighting games over the years. Even games that ppl ended up praising like my formerly beloved SF3: 3S wasn’t honestly that good cos 2 characters dominated the game and it had less than 20 characters. Some were barely playable. MK11 had my boy Fujin as almost undeniably the cheapest and best character but at least 7 characters were top-tier and many others were playable. The mechanics like an insane wake-up system, breakaways and unbreakable fatal blows for an easy comeback were the main issues.
4 real man to watch the top 4 6 players in the game rn using just two Characters was just heartbreaking, was tough to watch it till the end lol
i truly think we are getting characters coming to mk1 still to the likes of Kano , ade, Noob saibot, kung jin,
I been telling Tom he needs me on his podcast as a casual
At this point, what is even keeping yall around? Not that you are wrong, in fact your complaints have been valid for years but what do you even gain from sticking around with a series that shows so little improvement?
31:36 tom you were a waaaaaay better aquaman anyways, not trying to be an ass i really feel like that plus injustice 1 might be my fav game all time it’s close with it and X
Where sound
Is MK1 heading to EVO with no change? Just a few characters at top 8 and same kameos.
@51:29 This is why I'm no longer playing any NRS title or WB title ever again. They didn't even know who ed boon was and had to be told he was the creator of MK.... HOW ??? wtf ..I'm done this franchise is dead.
Agreed on 5% less on khameleon now for us with low mid kharscters got fucked it’s like forcing us to pick others kameos that are not good so we just end up dropping the game
we as a people have to stop holding NRS to the same standards as japanese fighting game devs. they dont have the same sauce as capcom, bandai namco, arcsys etc. expecting fleshed out archetypes in mk is a fools errand. they dont understand archetypes like the eastern devs do. they consider reiko a grappler just because he has 2 command grabs... that should tell you all you need to know
Grapppler with one of the best projectiles too xD
The only true grapplers nrs made were bane, Solomon grundy, commando kano and couple more. As a grappler main I've been depressed playing mk1 and I'm sure majority of the grappler mains have too 😔
They know damn well what archetypes are. The problem is that they are making the conscious decision to not design characters that way.
@@gus9663 yea. Its too much work. They wanna chill at the office without all the stress lol
Man I came back after 5 months and it’s still garbage
Do you know how hard it is to hit down 1!? lmao
M2Dave, king Freddy!!
I heavily disagree with the idea that mileena ball roll is “just a bonus” it’s a huge part of what makes her so strong. D1 into ball roll is practically unreactable especially online. Feel like you just don’t want that part nerfed because you need it for sub zero 😂
Khameleon is hella strong but sektor and sareena are super good too tho tbh
28:30 is honestly a reach ngl, it was bad but it wasn’t THAT bad, all i wish for is that one day we get a broken fun mk game, makes me sad to see my favorite fighting franchise like this
Mkx pokes was plus 20 on hit some times more . Mk 1 u lucky if a poke is plus 15 . Suddenly 12 frame mids are so good lol . I will say I hated a lot of stuff in mk 9 random frame data Kabal Johnny cyrax with those long ass combos. I'm not sure if mk9 meta was that great tbh . Mk1 needs help tho and nrs is too incompetent to even hear the outcry of the community.
What poke in mkx was plus 20😂 yall would say anything to dog that game lmao
@@just_2swift yeah on hit it was some very plus pokes . Nobody was trying to dog anything look it up if you think I'm capping. Takeda d4 was plus 27 on hit kano d1 was +25 on hit and many others were very plus on hit . You just yappin very plus pokes also prevent the os that tom was talking about . y'all say stuff without even knowing what you are talking about why??
@@kanasas2 D4 isn’t considered a poke. You’re not going to use D4 in a poking situation. The Kano one you got me on that one.☝️
At least there's no Mike Hollow.
Facts bro is weird ass hell
28:31 1000000% agree with that statement
So, if they just bring MK9 to present technology (but un-gimp Sheeva and Jade) would that satisfy people?
The current player base would CRY playing MK9 😂
A more balanced MK9 with FUJIN and SAREENA playable would be nice 😂 I also would like Jade and Sheeva to be better.
What NRS did with MK11 & MK1, just Imagine if Capcom and Namco went the same route with Street Fighter & Tekken. TWO BACK TO BACK GAMES LIKE MK11 & MK1 within 5 years where they stripped down their characters and gameplay.
We would be in the Dark Ages of fighting games because all 3 studios would be trash simultaneously if that happened 💯
The pro comp community is a huge part of the problem
use me as an “I’m down for the next boycott button” its time we legit make a stand against the bare minimum!!
One more thing ever since the merger WB has gone down hill fast facts.
The arguments about "what Tom says" are stupid. The numbers speak for themselves.
35 min exactly = people want parity, balance, variety AND power.
RIP Mortal Kombat 1992-2023 the run was great ! I’m gonna miss you
1992-2019 🙏
Lol. Mk not going anywhere. They have to stop making money first
@@InTheKitchenWristStirFry realistically 2011 lol
@@gus9663 it’s dead to me. Not saying it’s dead period.
No sound?
Can someone tell me who their talkin about at 19:08😂