Tisas 1911 Match our first test and initial break in at 35 yards more to come.
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- Опубликовано: 20 мар 2023
- This is just a short video snippet of testing and why you should test your gun. Not all barrels are the same. Not all guns like the same ammo. This video shows a brand new Tisas 1911 match fresh out of box in a Ransom Rest.
How will this gun do? What ammo does this gun like? We did not test all ammo, but we did a fast test of various ammo. This was to give us a fast reasonable expectation of what that gun may do.
This first test the conditions were not perfect we had very high winds. This is the first initial test and zero at 35 yards for demo and information only. In this video we show gun and ammo repeatability. We only show two types of ammo in this video, We show a range ammo that that we used and we show a Magtech ammo, more was tested just was not shown on video..
So far the test in those conditions the best ammo was Fiocchi 200- grain JHP ( for video time we did not show on video but was very close to the Magtech ) the other was Magtech 230 grain FMJ (that was the last group shown in the video) More comprehensive test is to come with this and another Tisas 1911. And we will do a 50 yard on this gun. So, stay tuned for more info and more testing.
Is it me the gun or the ammo? Have you ever shot at a soda can at 15 or 25 yards and say? I can't believe I missed that. Can your pistol even hold under 1.5" at 15 yards? If it can't, it may increase your chances of missing.
Accuracy matters. Sure, many guns can do an occasional 1.5" or sub 1" group but can they do it repeatable. Some guns may have 3 or 4 rounds that group good once in a awhile but not all 8 rounds. And are they Repeatable 8 round? Again, and again. What ammo does the gun like? Is it me the gun or the ammo?
We are here to find out. We do not cherry pick the rounds or groups this is real true results in our videos. This is why you may miss that soda can. If you are not testing, you are guessing as they say.
First shots and groups shown here. No special formula no tricks out of box stock gun and stock ammo. Not all ammo or tests was shown this time, but stay tuned for more comprehensive tests,
Ransom Rest test for repeatability. Many various types of ammo used to get a average base line of grouping.
Subscribe to channel to get notification, will add more tests and video soon. No special formula, stock ammo stock gun real world test in real world environment. You can do this test to.
What ammo does your gun like? What ammo do you prefer? Is it me or the gun? Ransom Rest helps you find this out.
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it was great to meet you guys at Gunsite and thanks for taking a look at the match!
Thank you so much and we are enjoying the Match. Stay tuned for more info and videos regarding the Tisas Match and the G1 we are absolutly enjoying them both.
Given the right ammo, it's amazing accuracy from a very reasonably priced gun. And I learned a few things too. Great video.
First time seeing such a test. Very interesting. I love my tisas. They are quailty and accurate.
Your ransom rest knowledge is stellar thank you kind sir.
Because he makes them???
Excellent! Thank you!
Own 4 of their 1911's after break-in 400 rnds & slight tune , they all shoot like lasers. Fine platform without the obscene greed of Colt.
People who own inexpensive 1911's are nothing but poor, low class riffraff.
@@apollothirteen9236 Own custom platforms as well. You couldn't afford my boots riffraff!
@@jameswilson1407 How dare you speak to me that way you little peasant. I am the president of the Beverly Hills home owners association. I made more money in one day than you make in a lifetime. How dare you!
I honestly think if tisas keeps up their quality it will climb the ranks I bought one few years back and for the price it was excellent quality didn’t have anything bad to say about it
100% these will end up priced much higher one day
Awesome 😎👍👍👍
That's a pretty good group from a production gun, especially considering it was at 35 yards. That would translate to barely over an inch at 25 yards.
1and1/2 inches center-to-center a @ 35 yds, I'd be tickled to death, good pistol.
dont expect this to be the norm. i own this gun and have ransom and rested it.the slide to frame was very tight and quickly loosened up also the barrel lock up is much worse than a 800 dollar spring field . i hand high hopes based on this video . the gun needs a match barrel fitted. i would not buy this gun again
Great information on inserts for the 1911 pistols. I wish you would do one for Browning P35s and other pistols where common customizations can run afoul of Ransom grip inserts.
Thank you for the comment and feedback. We will make one for the Browning 35, this seems reasonable and needed.
This is my favorite channel maybe you could do a super bowel on 45s to see who takes the crown as top 45 in the world.hell I would pay to watch that for real.then an episode of world championship rifles please please.
Super bowel 💩
In my less expensive Tisas 45acp’s I found FMJ Sellier & Belliot 230grain shot better than Magtech for me.
That hasn’t been my experience.
Quite the opposite.
Magtech is better ammo by a long shot.
S&B is top notch
"Don't overtighten it-- the human hand is not that strong"
-Sun Tsu, The Art of War
A friend of mine didn’t think his rest was indexing in the same place every time so he put a dial indicator on it and it improved his groups by a bunch.
Thank you for your comment and here is some info may help your friend.
He has over tightening the gun in the grip insert. Most people over tighten the gun because they want rigidity, and they want it tight or snug for accuracy. Keep in mind the human hand grip is not that strong. And remember that girls shoot these guns. So never over tighten your gun in the machine.
Extend finger snug only, if needed torque it to 14-to-18-inch pounds for polymer or 21-to-25-inch pounds for metal frame. This is the military spec designed by the military.
Keep in mind the grip inserts are the durometer of the human hand. They are designed to mimic the human hand. So any over tightening the gun in the grip will deform a polymer gun it will also make the grip insert swell therefore the gun won't settle, or it could rock in the grip insert.
This problem is aspirated if he is running a polymer and especially a gen 3 Glock gun. Let your friend know to download our tips manual on the Master Series web page. This will walk him through how to properly use the machine.
Machine is very easy to use but please Don't re-invent the wheel have him contact us and learn how to use machine properly. This can save him a lot of time or him trying to redesign something due to a miss use or miss torque at setup.
He did very well by figuring it out, but the accommodating indicator is only patching a root issue of over tightening the gun in the grip insert. This is in the instruction manual.
Please remind him Girls shoot these guns and the human hand grip is not that strong. he has over tightened the gun into the machine. Chuck Ransom always said do not monkey the knobs tight. He always said use extend fingers only or torque using a inch pound wrench.
When you over tighten gun in machine the grip will swell and gun wont settle into the grip. This will be seen as vertical elongated grouping. Group should be round not elongated. If he over tightens gun, it will give him elongated group as mentioned in our tips manual. Hope this info helps some. We really appreciate your comment and please have him contact us so we can go over proper use of machine. It is easy to use but over tightening is a issue some do.
Got the duty 45 and d10. No problems yet.
Looks like a decent pistol for the money.
Great video. You piqued my interest. I may need another 1911 after all.
PS That isn't the "slide lock". It's the manual thumb safety.
Agree We like to call it a thumb safety as well. There is a book called are you smarter than Jon Moses browning and, in that book, he calls it a slide lock. Therefore, we now call it a slide lock even though it is a thumb safety. believe he calls the slide lock a slide catch or slide release. But what we refer to as a thumb safety he actually calls it a slide lock. He designed this model so It does lock the slide so I can see where he got his terms from. And who am I to say.
@@Ransomrest I'm smarter than John Moses Browning, so I call it the "thumb safety." You can cite me as your reference for the correct terminology.
@@garyK.45ACP Sounds good to me, Anything else is just confusing Ha Ha 🤣👍
5 star video
Finally 😁 the test iv been waiting for,, I'm torn between this or a Girsan long slide 10mm .
Thank you for the comment and feedback. There will be more tests. There will also be one at 50 yards We also have the Tisas G1 1911 45Acp in house, it will also be tested, so stay tuned for what ammo and group you can reasonably expect out of one of these.
@@Ransomrest awesome 👍 I definitely will be watching
I own both girsan is better especially the trigger out of the box
I don’t think there is a reason these days to buy a 1911 under dan Wesson other than tisas. They are great guns. I got 2 so far. Haven’t shot much out of them but already loving them with all I’ve seen
This may be a crazzy question have you ever all in one hole?NEW sub thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the comment and interest, Absolutely we have. And please stay tuned we will again. We got a lot more coming up as this year allows with 45s
Back in 1983 when I was shooting Bullseye for the OREGON ARMY GUARD our 1911 issued Match 45ACP had to shoot 2" groups at 50YARDS or it wasn't issued to a shooter. Looked to me that pistol was using the same std. IMOP THESE TISAS 1911'S ARE ALL AROUND THE BEST PISTOL ON THE MARKET FOR THE MONEY. I DO KNOW THEY ARE ALL MACHINED TO
ISO9000 STD.
That sounds about right to me. Standard issue would be 4- or 4.5-inch match grade or match issue should be less then 2"
this guy calls the safety, slide locks, tells me all i need to know
Smart guy 😅
@Ransomrest • 1y ago
Agree We like to call it a thumb safety as well. There is a book called are you smarter than Jon Moses browning and, in that book, he calls it a slide lock. Therefore, we now call it a slide lock even though it is a thumb safety. believe he calls the slide lock a slide catch or slide release. But what we refer to as a thumb safety he actually calls it a slide lock. He designed this model so It does lock the slide so l can see where he got his terms from.
And who am I to say.
Teesash. Thats how u say it. Cheers
Just bought one of these myself, but tbh not what I expected the action is not smooth at all and half my mags are super difficult to insert or don't insert at all when loaded. Is this normal before break in? This is after a couple hundred rounds even and though its accurate i had higher hopes like when they advertised smooth action i expected that to be out of the box..
You may need to run a file on the bottom edge of the mag release inside where it first contacts the magazine. It's a quick 5 minute fix if that's what the problem is.
@@paranrs I appreciate that but i ended up sending back for warranty actually, they said they're gonna take a look at it make sure it's all fit properly and see what's going on, thumb safety was super loose too even worse than usual on cheaper guns when in the fire position. Hopefully once they're done with it I'll have a better piece tbh this gun isn't worth the 950 I paid so far
@@YourwifesBF69 Sounds like you made the right decision. It's unusual but over the years I've had to send a few guns back for some tweaking. All different brands. In almost every case it worked out really well in the end.
canik sfx mete make a video of it too
Clearance for safety not slide lock if I heard u right multi time
Yes, clearance for grip safety/palm safety and what browning calls the Slide lock. I call it a thumb safety or slide safety but seems John Moses Browning specifically calls it a slide lock. So, I referred to it as a slide lock per Mr. Browning.
Wish you guys would shoot at 50 yards.
Slide lock = ambi thumb safety
Yes, it does, I started calling it a slide lock due to a book called are you smarter than Jon Moses Browning. In that book Browning calls it a slide lock not a thumb safety. Therefore, I now refer to it as a slide lock. I realize we all want to call the slide release latch a slide lock, but if I recall he calls that a slide release. Nomenclature gets me every time. I'm with you though it is a thumb safety. But he designed it and he calls it a slide lock. What's your thoughts on that? And thank you for your interest in Ransom Rest products and your comment.
It's a safety, not a slide lock!
Right. But you may try to tell that to John Moses Browning. There is a book called are you smarter than John Moses Browning. And in that book, John calls it a Slide lock. Not a safety or a slide safety it was called a slide lock. So now you know. I believe the patent also called it a slide lock. Interesting but true. Yes, nomenclature and proper terminology is key.
"Tie sauce". Lol. 🙄
Scared to hold it?
this is a fine looking gun, but it is not a match grade accurate gun . i own this gun.and will tell you a blind squirrel will find an acorn every once in awhile.the slide to frame loosened up fast and the barrel bushing was not tight the lockup in back was not good. these are hand fitted guns that doesn't mean they are fitted by a good gun smith or forged frame doesn't mean the heat treated the slid and frame correctly. i have owned ed browns , spring flied armory,s
I just got one of these myself and I'm disappointed as well even for the price I expected better. How was the action on yours? They say "buttery smooth" action otb but mine was stiff as hell and binding action was not smooth, loaded mags are super hard to load and don't always eject. Mines clearly all tight fit at least for now but they really make this seem better than it is.
@@YourwifesBF69 mine was very tight . after less than 100 rounds it became loose. i bought a springfield a few weeks latter it had a tiny bit o f slide to frame movement . the barrel on the spring field was relieved a 1/4 inch past the bushing. it stayed tight after a few 100 rounds.
to make a long story short the spring field ronin barrel lock up was better . i also think they screwd up by machining after heat treating, i think they are machining the heat treating off.
i believe this is a subpar to springfield and kimbers.and even ria
The name is pronounced " teesash"
It's a shame you don't have A. Machine to do your shooting for you. All the time.
Funny how no one knows hot to pronounce the name of the manufacturer.
ambidextrous slide lock? I have handled a few 1911's since the 1950's and that is something I have never seen.
Ambidextrous safety yes. Learn nomenclature please.
Right. But you may note. There is a book called are you smarter than John Moses Browning. And in that book, John calls it a Slide lock. Not a safety or a slide safety it was called a slide lock. So now you know. I believe the patent also called it a slide lock. Interesting but true. Yes, nomenclature and proper terminology is key.
thanks I did not know that. I learn someting every day.
What’s the trigger pull weight???
Trigger weight is 4.5-5lbs on mine