The build quality and proven design is why they sell. Making changes for the sake of change is not how Toyota gets its reputation for reliability. The after market providers accommodate the sensor location. Do your homework before you make blanket statements that are wrong
I don’t understand the comment from many reviewers about the 2020 taco being old and dated, and I even heArd a RUclipsr comment the same when reviewing a 2019. It was a brand new model in 2016! Fairly significant redesign while keeping the same pedigree to the 2015 and earlier Gen.
I think Toyota is smart in the sensor regard by not placing on windshield. Manufactures like Subraru are now charging huge dollars to replace the windshield when it cracks or gets broken because it is now integrated. You cannot just get the local glass guy to replace. A friend of mine just paid $1200 for a windshield replacement on her Ascent.
David Armor I’ve lamented the fact that they put the sensor in the way of aftermarket bumpers and winches, but I never thought about windshield replacement. I am on my 3rd windshield in my 5th Gen 4runner, mostly due to the “up and down” angle of the windshield. This is a very good point! 👍
Having the sensor behind glass doesn’t automatically make it more expensive, the ascent is a new car which is why it was high you can find windshields for the Forester all day long for under $600 and it has the same safety system as the Ascent.
Alex on Autos wouldn’t it be more expensive by default some the sensor is placed on the windshield? You won’t be able to replace the windshield without getting the sensors recalibrated which would be a trip to the dealer no?
Right Lane Hog I want one but there are zero manuals at the 3 dealerships within 200 miles of me. I don’t think they order them either they just get what they are allocated.
@@heavyarms951 For a truck with the expected lifespan of a Tacoma, the owner should get PRECISELY the specs they want . A factory order is totally justified. I also feel manual fans need to 'put their money where their mouth is' to encourage manufacturers to keep producing manuals. I have driven Tacomas with automatics and manuals and I definitely prefer the control and engagement offered by the manual.
I just got a 2019 Toyota Tundra. I love it but I am upset they have updated the infotainment and pushbutton start for 2020. I wonder can Toyota retrofit my truck with apple car play. I would love that. I traded in my 2019 Ram for the Tundra. Glad I did.
Toyota uses an 8 speed in the Land Cruiser - the king of ruggedness and reliability. If they didn’t think the 8 speed would be reliable, why would they use it at all? They should add it to their trucks and other SUVs
Jay Mac Toyota is slow to change because they are still selling the current transmissions like hot cakes and they’re focused on reliability. I think we will see a version of the 8 speed in the all new 2021 Tundra and the 6th Gen 4runner (2022?).
It's because they can make more money. Why spend the money updating the truck when it sells well enough and updates cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Changing out the trans means they'd have to both slow down the 6 speed plant and either build a new 8 speed plant in the US or import the 8 speeds. Either case is expensive.
Arnold Kadiu they also use the 8 speed in a bunch of Lexus products. It’s not like they only use it in the land cruiser. I also couldn’t imagine it’d be tremendously difficult to adapt it into the Tundra. Then it would have the same power train as the land cruiser, minus the full time 4WD. The hard and software already exist
The off road and the sport are set up the exact same way with the exact same suspension. There should be no difference between the 2. Same for the sr and SR5 models.
@@VicVinegar710 incorect the TRD off road and the TRD sport have different shocks when stock. The sport has larger rims resulting in less side wall on the tires thusly less flex in the tires to absorb shock.
Tacoma needs a 4.0 v6 NA with 300 hp / 300 trq as a base engine. 3.0 v6 turbo with 350 hp / 400 trq as an option....all with an 8-speed auto. Drop the 2.7 engine.
What about someone looking for a truck to tow a small camper that a CUV can't tow that wants 4 wheel drive for bad weather? I do some light off road driving occasionally, mostly dirt and forestry roads. I also need to transport bikes and kayaks. Looking at Tacoma SR5 thinking it would be a good fit.
Love both of these trucks... owned both but currently have the Tundra. Took me a week to swap out those dinky tires though.. Check it out on my page if you'd like to see. It looks 100x better imo with bigger tires! Great video!
Sounds like if the cab hasn't changed, I don't need to drive the tacoma. The toyota footwell has been too small for me to drive with work boots. The Tundra is okay, but most toyota vehicles footwells have the pedals too close together and are just too crowded Even the wife's sienna -- it is okay with normal footwear but dangerous in boots.
Toyota redesigns it’s vehicle’s at least every seven year cycle or more depending on sales. So the Tacoma for instance won’t be due until 2022 for a complete redesign.
The tundra is in DESPERATE need of a redesign. 2021 can't come fast enough for it hot daymn. I really hope they ditch the hood scoops. And the taco is like the escalade, it gets outclassed by its competitors but sells purely on its name
@@joeblack1052 Toyotas quality has plummeted with their more recent vehicles. The reason "all their stuff is reliable" is because its ancient and rather than innovating anything they just tinker with what they've had for over a decade. It's the same reason the Nissan frontier is so reliable when literally everything else nissan produces is junk, it's because the frontier is from the era of reliable nissan vehicles
I honestly love the tundra and how it’s still a no nonsense truck. It keeps the repair costs of having to take it to the dealership to get serviced down. I’d rather pay for something that’s not going to fail even if it’s older
@guy proulx I would prefer a vehicle I actually like and am comfortable in than spending 50,000 dollars on a vehicle for reliability claims that in my experience are bullshit. I would gladly spend the 3k saved in fuel economy over 100k miles to repair the truck when something goes wrong. Maintain your own damn vehicle, ensure it gets proper fuel, proper oil, proper trans and diff fluid changes and any vehicle from any brand will treat you well. The only thing toyota has going for them was the 4.7 v8 that went a million miles, even though that truck went though 4 transmissions and that engine is no longer sold in the tundra.
That snorkel is ridiculous. If you're that deep in water you're in trouble. I know it's also placed high to be out of the dust but it just looks hideous.
The installation of “snorkel” (property called RAISED AIR INTAKE) serves two purposes prevents water being ingested thru the air intake that sits just above the tire well, also dust and you get cooler air into the engine. This set up or type of raise air intake is most commonly used in the Dakar rally vehicles
Aaron Buckel you’re right most trucks like this Tacoma will be driven 90% on paved roads. But all these accessories has to do with marketing that people tend to buy into it so they can say “I have it”. As far as the looks goes, it’s completely subjective
Toyota seriously needs to drop that 2.7 from the Tacoma. It is such an underpowered engine for that truck. I have to drive one every day for work. Gotta floor it to merge on the highway or pass anyone. Even then it's slow as a snail. I think they do 0-60 in around 9.5-10 seconds.
Taylor Nielsen Yoi are right , When I bought a brand new Taco 2.7 I had to go back to the dealership and trade it back to 3.5 like you said it was very slow and noisy .
@@brandonyen7837 oh yeah, that 2.7 is really noisy. It does not like to be revved out. I will say that the two Tacoma's I've driven at work have been very reliable. I haven't had to take them in for anything other than oil changes. I put 125k miles on the 2014 one in four years, and now I've been given a 2018. It's got almost 50k on it already but it's been reliable so far too.
When you sell a fraction of what the Big 3 do, you don't put a whole lot of money into redesigns. I bought a new truck last month and I didn't even waste my time looking at Toyota. My 2019 Silverado LTZ was bought with towing a travel trailer in mind. It has the 6.2L engine, 10 speed tranny, Max Trailering package and Advanced Trailering system. One of the really neat features of the advanced trailering system is trailer tire pressure and temperature being displayed on the infotainment screen. When it comes to towing, Toyota is still in the stone age.
@guy proulx Toyota didn't get anything right. They sell stone age technology to sheep like you who can only bleat about reliability, which isn't any better than American trucks. And you pay exorbitant prices for your ancient technology. I'll take my American truck with the latest safety and convenience technology any day. If Toyota was so great they'd be selling a lot more of them.
The build quality and proven design is why they sell. Making changes for the sake of change is not how Toyota gets its reputation for reliability. The after market providers accommodate the sensor location. Do your homework before you make blanket statements that are wrong
I don’t understand the comment from many reviewers about the 2020 taco being old and dated, and I even heArd a RUclipsr comment the same when reviewing a 2019. It was a brand new model in 2016! Fairly significant redesign while keeping the same pedigree to the 2015 and earlier Gen.
Older than dirt!
ExpeditionaryRanger once one guy thinks it’s dated they all think it’s dated
Scumbags bro!
@@Brenny627 a decade or more is not new when every other truck in the segment is brand new or only a couple of years on a new design.
Norm T tundra yes but the 3rd gen taco came out in 2016, only 4 years
For anyone who says that the Tacoma and tundra are dated that’s what makes them reliable and loved
I agree my taco is 2nd gen taco is great
Can you do the same comparison between the f150/ranger and the Silverado/canyon?
I think Toyota is smart in the sensor regard by not placing on windshield. Manufactures like Subraru are now charging huge dollars to replace the windshield when it cracks or gets broken because it is now integrated. You cannot just get the local glass guy to replace. A friend of mine just paid $1200 for a windshield replacement on her Ascent.
David Armor I’ve lamented the fact that they put the sensor in the way of aftermarket bumpers and winches, but I never thought about windshield replacement. I am on my 3rd windshield in my 5th Gen 4runner, mostly due to the “up and down” angle of the windshield. This is a very good point! 👍
Having the sensor behind glass doesn’t automatically make it more expensive, the ascent is a new car which is why it was high you can find windshields for the Forester all day long for under $600 and it has the same safety system as the Ascent.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide : Respectively disagree. I just watched this video from CR. ruclips.net/video/ObsEsoIL6Ns/видео.html . Watch at 20:00.
Alex on Autos wouldn’t it be more expensive by default some the sensor is placed on the windshield? You won’t be able to replace the windshield without getting the sensors recalibrated which would be a trip to the dealer no?
@@Unkn0wnAzn Yes and they have to be recalibrated also.
damn man trucks are getting crazy expensive
That color of green is a very handsome color. I like the mud too.
Leo the short guy green color is out of color~
Alex, You forgot to mention the Tacoma is still available with a manual.
@@jeevang7853 I guess you don't know how to drive a manual.
Right Lane Hog
I want one but there are zero manuals at the 3 dealerships within 200 miles of me. I don’t think they order them either they just get what they are allocated.
@@heavyarms951 For a truck with the expected lifespan of a Tacoma, the owner should get PRECISELY the specs they want . A factory order is totally justified. I also feel manual fans need to 'put their money where their mouth is' to encourage manufacturers to keep producing manuals. I have driven Tacomas with automatics and manuals and I definitely prefer the control and engagement offered by the manual.
I wish Tundra came in a manual
@@rightlanehog3151 this a very good point. 👍
Tundra still looks and runs good after all these years
I just got a 2019 Toyota Tundra. I love it but I am upset they have updated the infotainment and pushbutton start for 2020. I wonder can Toyota retrofit my truck with apple car play. I would love that. I traded in my 2019 Ram for the Tundra. Glad I did.
I traded in my Ram for a TRD Tacoma. Love it
@@jessemares1068 very..........................................................very wise decision.. have fun ;)
Toyota uses an 8 speed in the Land Cruiser - the king of ruggedness and reliability. If they didn’t think the 8 speed would be reliable, why would they use it at all? They should add it to their trucks and other SUVs
Jay Mac Toyota is slow to change because they are still selling the current transmissions like hot cakes and they’re focused on reliability. I think we will see a version of the 8 speed in the all new 2021 Tundra and the 6th Gen 4runner (2022?).
It's because they can make more money. Why spend the money updating the truck when it sells well enough and updates cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Changing out the trans means they'd have to both slow down the 6 speed plant and either build a new 8 speed plant in the US or import the 8 speeds. Either case is expensive.
Hogh308 Is they just refreshed it, it might take longer than that before they give it a full redesign
Arnold Kadiu they also use the 8 speed in a bunch of Lexus products. It’s not like they only use it in the land cruiser. I also couldn’t imagine it’d be tremendously difficult to adapt it into the Tundra. Then it would have the same power train as the land cruiser, minus the full time 4WD. The hard and software already exist
It's all about creating differentiation between products. Lexus and some Toyota gets the newest tech which the rest stays one generation behind.
Can you show us what the procedure to follow when changing the oil on these two trucks.
It's not a snorkel. It doesn't improve the wading depth. Toyota is very clear about that in promotional videos.
I drove the Tacoma sport and off road and thought the off road was the more comfortable and softer ride on the street.
That is the way i felt also so i bought the TRD off road in 2018
How about trd offroad vs trd pro? Trd pro doesnt have kdss
The off road and the sport are set up the exact same way with the exact same suspension. There should be no difference between the 2. Same for the sr and SR5 models.
@@VicVinegar710 incorect the TRD off road and the TRD sport have different shocks when stock. The sport has larger rims resulting in less side wall on the tires thusly less flex in the tires to absorb shock.
@@VicVinegar710 Sorry Steve but 2 differently tuned suspensions and different shocks. Do some homework.
Tacoma needs a 4.0 v6 NA with 300 hp / 300 trq as a base engine. 3.0 v6 turbo with 350 hp / 400 trq as an option....all with an 8-speed auto. Drop the 2.7 engine.
Lol, doesn't need a 8 speed at all. Taco barley ever goes into 6th gear now. Definitely needs up/tq increase.
What about someone looking for a truck to tow a small camper that a CUV can't tow that wants 4 wheel drive for bad weather? I do some light off road driving occasionally, mostly dirt and forestry roads. I also need to transport bikes and kayaks. Looking at Tacoma SR5 thinking it would be a good fit.
Where was this filmed? Looks like a rock quarry that's by me
Love both of these trucks... owned both but currently have the Tundra. Took me a week to swap out those dinky tires though.. Check it out on my page if you'd like to see. It looks 100x better imo with bigger tires! Great video!
Tacoma doesn't need 8 speeds.
Sounds like if the cab hasn't changed, I don't need to drive the tacoma. The toyota footwell has been too small for me to drive with work boots. The Tundra is okay, but most toyota vehicles footwells have the pedals too close together and are just too crowded Even the wife's sienna -- it is okay with normal footwear but dangerous in boots.
Toyota redesigns it’s vehicle’s at least every seven year cycle or more depending on sales. So the Tacoma for instance won’t be due until 2022 for a complete redesign.
I bet its not until 2026
The tundra is in DESPERATE need of a redesign. 2021 can't come fast enough for it hot daymn. I really hope they ditch the hood scoops.
And the taco is like the escalade, it gets outclassed by its competitors but sells purely on its name
@@joeblack1052 Toyotas quality has plummeted with their more recent vehicles. The reason "all their stuff is reliable" is because its ancient and rather than innovating anything they just tinker with what they've had for over a decade. It's the same reason the Nissan frontier is so reliable when literally everything else nissan produces is junk, it's because the frontier is from the era of reliable nissan vehicles
I honestly love the tundra and how it’s still a no nonsense truck. It keeps the repair costs of having to take it to the dealership to get serviced down. I’d rather pay for something that’s not going to fail even if it’s older
@@djw5415 Exactly.
Ahhahahahaha! Everyone knows American motor companies are trash. I'll take a Tacoma any day over the Ranger and Colorado. And I've driven all of them.
@guy proulx I would prefer a vehicle I actually like and am comfortable in than spending 50,000 dollars on a vehicle for reliability claims that in my experience are bullshit. I would gladly spend the 3k saved in fuel economy over 100k miles to repair the truck when something goes wrong. Maintain your own damn vehicle, ensure it gets proper fuel, proper oil, proper trans and diff fluid changes and any vehicle from any brand will treat you well. The only thing toyota has going for them was the 4.7 v8 that went a million miles, even though that truck went though 4 transmissions and that engine is no longer sold in the tundra.
Guess what else it would do by putting the safety sense in windshield ? Lower the insurance rate. Thx Toyota !
46k for a midsized truck that doesn't even have updated technology. Wow
New tundra coming model year 2022 but will be available winter 2021
That snorkel is ridiculous. If you're that deep in water you're in trouble. I know it's also placed high to be out of the dust but it just looks hideous.
Agreed. SMH every time I see one
They are about dust not water, you’ll have other issues far before you end up with water ingestion
The installation of “snorkel” (property called RAISED AIR INTAKE) serves two purposes prevents water being ingested thru the air intake that sits just above the tire well, also dust and you get cooler air into the engine.
This set up or type of raise air intake is most commonly used in the Dakar rally vehicles
@@robertom883 I know all that and stated so in my post, my gripe is the look hideous on vehicles that spend 99.9% of their time on the road
Aaron Buckel you’re right most trucks like this Tacoma will be driven 90% on paved roads. But all these accessories has to do with marketing that people tend to buy into it so they can say “I have it”. As far as the looks goes, it’s completely subjective
I need a Yaris with this beautiful front end ...
Toyota seriously needs to drop that 2.7 from the Tacoma. It is such an underpowered engine for that truck. I have to drive one every day for work. Gotta floor it to merge on the highway or pass anyone. Even then it's slow as a snail. I think they do 0-60 in around 9.5-10 seconds.
Taylor Nielsen Yoi are right , When I bought a brand new Taco 2.7 I had to go back to the dealership and trade it back to 3.5 like you said it was very slow and noisy .
@@brandonyen7837 oh yeah, that 2.7 is really noisy. It does not like to be revved out. I will say that the two Tacoma's I've driven at work have been very reliable. I haven't had to take them in for anything other than oil changes. I put 125k miles on the 2014 one in four years, and now I've been given a 2018. It's got almost 50k on it already but it's been reliable so far too.
Got 12 tundras in our fleet. They are they ones getting stuck for our cell tower service. No rear lock diff.
But they arent broken
Off road vehicles without headlight washers - are not actually off road vehicles.
#landcruiser
When you sell a fraction of what the Big 3 do, you don't put a whole lot of money into redesigns. I bought a new truck last month and I didn't even waste my time looking at Toyota. My 2019 Silverado LTZ was bought with towing a travel trailer in mind. It has the 6.2L engine, 10 speed tranny, Max Trailering package and Advanced Trailering system. One of the really neat features of the advanced trailering system is trailer tire pressure and temperature being displayed on the infotainment screen. When it comes to towing, Toyota is still in the stone age.
AlaskaErik how much did the Chevy cost you?
Let's see how many trouble free miles you get
American motor companies are trash. 😂 Everyone knows that 🇩🇪 and 🇯🇵 make the best vehicles.
Only poor, inbred hicks drive Chevy. 😂
@guy proulx Toyota didn't get anything right. They sell stone age technology to sheep like you who can only bleat about reliability, which isn't any better than American trucks. And you pay exorbitant prices for your ancient technology. I'll take my American truck with the latest safety and convenience technology any day. If Toyota was so great they'd be selling a lot more of them.