Matt, I always love your well thought out analysis. Every product has pros and cons and is not appropriate for everyone. You do a great job of separating those differences. Nice job.
Great video. Really good info on a product that many of us are very intrigued to try. I also love your thought process on how to put components together to open different possibilities and not just think about everything as an A vs B comparison.
Great vid and analysis Matt. Loved the essentially, second half of the vid where you started playing with the 105. Production is and videography looks slick as well.
Great video Matt. I am a 22 handicap and coming from a 2019 Taylormade P790 irons with steel shaft and looking to switch to graphite shafts. Bought the Axiom 75 S already but still uncut and now considering what heads. Was at a GolfTown launch monitor … I can hit the new 2023 Taylormade P790 with graphite shaft at about 160-165 yards carry. I just turned 62. My current P790 7 iron carries about 145 yards.
Been using Axiom since Sept and I really like it. Not much adjustment period... Feel is great. Regarding cost... Find a builder with a Fuji account and price will become much more reasonable.
Matt killer vlog you did here. I was really eyeing those iron shafts and they are on top of my list for graphite golf shafts to try unless the fitter tells that I hit the ball better with steel shafts. But I would really like to have a golf set with graphite shafts because I really think that there is a lot of technology in them in general and that it could really benefit even the better golfers out there. Keep up the great work buddy 👍
Just came across this video today. Injury, elbow and finger pain is forcing me to consider switching to graphite. I tried graphite shafts years ago and had a horrible experience. A clubfitter built me a set with Aldila shafts and my 7 iron could go anywhere from 125 to 160 with what I would say the same swing. I would love to go to a real fitting with someone that had access to this kind of technology and knowledge. I would spend the money to know that I'm getting clubs that fit my swing. I've wasted more just trying clubs only to discover they didn't work for me. Fujikura driver shafts have been my go to driver shafts since I bought a driver while in Japan that had a Speeder 550 installed.
Very solid performing shaft. The Axiom was 29% tighter in the clubhead dispersion metric with the difference compared to the PX LS you had. That is impressive even in a mix of a few millimeters. Definitely a good but pricey option. For you, it may be worth considering given the number of balls you must be hitting from an injury prevention stand point. Sometimes maintaining health is avoiding the avoidable injuries. But that is said from someone with nerve damage in my wrist and having to think about longevity. Cheers.
Great video. Well thought thru. I have some unrelenting tennis elbow issues so earlier this year switched from project x 6.0 to KBS TGI 100 graphite shafts, which are good but feel a little "loose" (I'm steep so notice more than most probably) and don't give great feedback. I play Ventus Black 6X in my driver and am just switching over to Axiom 105x in my Srixon combo heads. Very curious to see how they perform!
I’m very intrigued about playing lighter shafts in longer irons to promote additional speed. The Axioms 105 could be a long iron specialty game changer.
Please test the Graphite Design Tour AD iron shafts. Roughly same cost as the Axiom. To me, the Graphite Design are the best graphite iron shafts on the market. Great video. Wishing you continued success.
I tried these in a fitting and they felt amazing. I didn’t get better performance than my current Nippin 750gh shafts so I decided not to switch. That and shaft at CC was more pricey than a new iron head.
The dispersion and standard deviations appeared to be better with the Axiom which I don't think I was expecting with someone who has an already good swing.
Matt, you’re becoming a top tier club fitter. You are much more than that imo, but that creative though at the end of the session and where it lead in terms of results proves to me that you have indeed ARRiVED. Very well done.
New videos are great Matt, love the style and way you’re presenting! I had the same thought of going down a weight in the long irons. What would you say on going from T150s in to a T200 for the long irons? I’ve been contemplating 4-5 T200 then 6-PW in a T150
Thanks for the response, I wasn’t too sure if going down a weight and changing heads would be too much of a change. I’ll have to find somewhere that has the combos to test it out
Great content as always! I read that there is a shaft for long irons, mid and short irons - am I accurate that if I want a higher ball flight, I should choose the "long iron" shaft? Thanks!
Would love to see you try the LA Golf L-Series next! Those are $115/shaft and you may have been there when Drew Cooper was hitting them. Somehow he gets even less dynamic loft out of them than the Project X LS 7.0
There’s a video from the old days where he tried the LA Golf shaft…he didn’t like the feel and they didn’t fit him well. MMT fit him a lot better. This was before Axiom was released
excellent video and information. Did u notice a dramatic difference in feel because of the weight differences between the 125 and 105? I have Modus 105s and obviously want to demo an axiom 105 but wondered if the 75 axiom is way too light
Matt, do you think it would be ok to have lighter shafts in your 4 and 5 irons versus the rest of the set? I was thinking of going a little lighter in the long irons, but I don't know if that would mess me up too much since I play Project X 6.5s, I think they're 125g. I know I've swung some lighter shafts in the past, and I couldn't believe how big of a difference in feel 10 grams could make.
How do graphite shafts stand up against an accidental bash against a tree trunk, compared to irons? I'm occasionally stood close to a tree and I've swung through the ball and caught my irons a couple of times - although no damage, just wondering if graphite would hold up as good in these instances.
nice review! my question would be: for that speciality 4i build you showed, how do other (cheaper) graphite options compare? given the huge upcharge for those shafts, i would wanna see a LOT of data to show that it indeed is the best graphite shaft for what I would want to accomplish, otherwise i wouldnt get over the suspicion that my fitter is trying to get an extra bit of commission at my expense...
For the record. I'm a Fuji Ventus fanboy and play them in all of my woods. I hit them against my Aerotech steel fibers...I really didn't care for them that much, and did notice much dispersion difference. It's just not worth the $200 upgrade (at Club Champion, etc).
Sounds like your matching the MOI of the 7 iron and 4 iron with out doing it intentionally. Not sure if your familiar with that concept or not. I would love to know how close the moi numbers of each club are to each other.
Wait, when you say expensive, I thought it was like graphite shaft expensive, turns out more like twice the price of a steel shaft. Now it would be interesting to compare this on a long/utility iron to a graphite UT/HB shaft such as Ventus HB, Tour AD 95 etc. Because compared to them this looks like a bargain.
Don't see many review the UST DART V iron shaft, which in the 120 x-flex should be a competitior to the axiom, actually fitting better into your development towards lighter iron shafts. The axiom is actually 130g uncut, the DART V progresses from just under 120 in the longest irons to just over 120 in the short irons. Does UST have less connections with fitters like you than fujikura maybe?
was the puring technology done with your clubs.? i was fit and purchased p790 with 105x axiom shafts. i feel a negative difference on 3/4 shots and when playing outside in cooler temperatures i believe these shafts play stiffer. only other negative was the “puring” technology affected installation where all the labels face a different direction on every club. club champion
How much would slower swingers benefit more from Axiom (I think they have lighter shafts than the ones you were trying) than a faster swinger like you? Given the price-- not sure it's worth the cash expense for you. (Currently playing Elevate 95)
The big question now is why is there a ~$200+ variance between the iron and driver shaft? same material right...?!?!? Certainly not double the mass... If only the Ventus Velocore driver shafts were similar in cost 😁
I suspect it’s what the market will bear. You only need one driver shaft, versus 7-10 iron shafts. Virtually no one would pay $350 per shaft for a full set of irons.
Matt i am wanting graphite but dont have availability locally. I have 87 mph ss on 7 iron. I play kbs ctaper light stiff now and typically have 120 mph ball speed and 170 carry. Any suggestions on a graphite product to buy and install in a head to try ? Accra , axiom, aerotech ?
Great review. Have you ever noticed graphite shafts break down after a certain amount of use? I wonder if you played a season and retested them if they would perform and feels the same?
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Matt, I always love your well thought out analysis. Every product has pros and cons and is not appropriate for everyone. You do a great job of separating those differences. Nice job.
Thank you fellow Matt! I’m loving this content and I hope you enjoy making it!
Great video. Really good info on a product that many of us are very intrigued to try. I also love your thought process on how to put components together to open different possibilities and not just think about everything as an A vs B comparison.
another excellent video, thanks for reviewing the axioms matt, super impressed with the 105s in the long irons
Great vid and analysis Matt. Loved the essentially, second half of the vid where you started playing with the 105. Production is and videography looks slick as well.
I love the approach and options you explored
Wonderful video, wonderful nuggets about what your thoughts are on building sets. Each video gets better and better, love the content keep rockin.
Great video Matty. Swing is looking pure!
Loving the channel, Matt!
Wow. Great video. I can’t believe I’m only finding your Chanel now mate. This is world class.
Always class Matt, looking forward till the 2023 witb already
I learned new stuff not just bout shaft but about how to mix things up to get what you want.... thanks!
Great video Matt.
I am a 22 handicap and coming from a 2019 Taylormade P790 irons with steel shaft and looking to switch to graphite shafts. Bought the Axiom 75 S already but still uncut and now considering what heads. Was at a GolfTown launch monitor … I can hit the new 2023 Taylormade P790 with graphite shaft at about 160-165 yards carry. I just turned 62. My current P790 7 iron carries about 145 yards.
Been using Axiom since Sept and I really like it. Not much adjustment period... Feel is great. Regarding cost... Find a builder with a Fuji account and price will become much more reasonable.
Very informative, easy to understand. Fun test!
Thanks for that review, Matt, really good! I'd be very interested to have you review (and maybe compare) the UST Mamiya Dart V as well.
Matt killer vlog you did here. I was really eyeing those iron shafts and they are on top of my list for graphite golf shafts to try unless the fitter tells that I hit the ball better with steel shafts. But I would really like to have a golf set with graphite shafts because I really think that there is a lot of technology in them in general and that it could really benefit even the better golfers out there. Keep up the great work buddy 👍
Just came across this video today. Injury, elbow and finger pain is forcing me to consider switching to graphite. I tried graphite shafts years ago and had a horrible experience. A clubfitter built me a set with Aldila shafts and my 7 iron could go anywhere from 125 to 160 with what I would say the same swing. I would love to go to a real fitting with someone that had access to this kind of technology and knowledge. I would spend the money to know that I'm getting clubs that fit my swing. I've wasted more just trying clubs only to discover they didn't work for me. Fujikura driver shafts have been my go to driver shafts since I bought a driver while in Japan that had a Speeder 550 installed.
Very solid performing shaft.
The Axiom was 29% tighter in the clubhead dispersion metric with the difference compared to the PX LS you had. That is impressive even in a mix of a few millimeters.
Definitely a good but pricey option. For you, it may be worth considering given the number of balls you must be hitting from an injury prevention stand point. Sometimes maintaining health is avoiding the avoidable injuries. But that is said from someone with nerve damage in my wrist and having to think about longevity.
Cheers.
I play the 105S in MKii Srixon and love them.
The review ive been waiting for. Paused it to go get a good cup of coffee
Good to see you doing your own thing, Matty Boi.
Great content Matt!
I have wrist issues, so graphite will be required from here on out.
Great video...and I have to say those graphics on gcquad look amazing. Not sure when that updated but looks good.
Excellent video. Thanks fo this info.
Great explanation!
Great video. Well thought thru. I have some unrelenting tennis elbow issues so earlier this year switched from project x 6.0 to KBS TGI 100 graphite shafts, which are good but feel a little "loose" (I'm steep so notice more than most probably) and don't give great feedback. I play Ventus Black 6X in my driver and am just switching over to Axiom 105x in my Srixon combo heads. Very curious to see how they perform!
I’m very intrigued about playing lighter shafts in longer irons to promote additional speed. The Axioms 105 could be a long iron specialty game changer.
Please test the Graphite Design Tour AD iron shafts. Roughly same cost as the Axiom. To me, the Graphite Design are the best graphite iron shafts on the market. Great video. Wishing you continued success.
I tried these in a fitting and they felt amazing. I didn’t get better performance than my current Nippin 750gh shafts so I decided not to switch. That and shaft at CC was more pricey than a new iron head.
Nice review
The dispersion and standard deviations appeared to be better with the Axiom which I don't think I was expecting with someone who has an already good swing.
Matt, you’re becoming a top tier club fitter. You are much more than that imo, but that creative though at the end of the session and where it lead in terms of results proves to me that you have indeed ARRiVED.
Very well done.
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New videos are great Matt, love the style and way you’re presenting! I had the same thought of going down a weight in the long irons. What would you say on going from T150s in to a T200 for the long irons? I’ve been contemplating 4-5 T200 then 6-PW in a T150
would recommend for sure, have done several fittings already with that set composition
Thanks for the response, I wasn’t too sure if going down a weight and changing heads would be too much of a change. I’ll have to find somewhere that has the combos to test it out
That is as good as a video gets!!
Have my set of T150 - Axiom 105x on the way!
Loved the bite test. Hated the price.
Matt, would love to see how these axiom shafts compare to the ventus HB black hybrid shafts in the long irons!
Great content as always!
I read that there is a shaft for long irons, mid and short irons - am I accurate that if I want a higher ball flight, I should choose the "long iron" shaft? Thanks!
Would love to see you try the LA Golf L-Series next! Those are $115/shaft and you may have been there when Drew Cooper was hitting them. Somehow he gets even less dynamic loft out of them than the Project X LS 7.0
There’s a video from the old days where he tried the LA Golf shaft…he didn’t like the feel and they didn’t fit him well. MMT fit him a lot better. This was before Axiom was released
if only I was rich!!!
You’d have your own sim and try any equipment you want like Matt :)
I have foam inserts in my nippons to reduce vibration. Vibration tears the tendons in my elbows to shreds
excellent video and information. Did u notice a dramatic difference in feel because of the weight differences between the 125 and 105? I have Modus 105s and obviously want to demo an axiom 105 but wondered if the 75 axiom is way too light
Have you seen the Newton driver shaft? Would love to see you do a review of it.
Nice!!🙌🏻
Matt, do you think it would be ok to have lighter shafts in your 4 and 5 irons versus the rest of the set? I was thinking of going a little lighter in the long irons, but I don't know if that would mess me up too much since I play Project X 6.5s, I think they're 125g. I know I've swung some lighter shafts in the past, and I couldn't believe how big of a difference in feel 10 grams could make.
How do graphite shafts stand up against an accidental bash against a tree trunk, compared to irons?
I'm occasionally stood close to a tree and I've swung through the ball and caught my irons a couple of times - although no damage, just wondering if graphite would hold up as good in these instances.
nice review! my question would be: for that speciality 4i build you showed, how do other (cheaper) graphite options compare? given the huge upcharge for those shafts, i would wanna see a LOT of data to show that it indeed is the best graphite shaft for what I would want to accomplish, otherwise i wouldnt get over the suspicion that my fitter is trying to get an extra bit of commission at my expense...
I’ve been considering doing this with the Accra isteel… 105 in my 4i, 115 for 5,6, maybe 7… keep the 125’s in short irons and wedges
For the record. I'm a Fuji Ventus fanboy and play them in all of my woods. I hit them against my Aerotech steel fibers...I really didn't care for them that much, and did notice much dispersion difference. It's just not worth the $200 upgrade (at Club Champion, etc).
Matt can you compare these head to head with the MMT125TX?
Sounds like your matching the MOI of the 7 iron and 4 iron with out doing it intentionally. Not sure if your familiar with that concept or not. I would love to know how close the moi numbers of each club are to each other.
Wait, when you say expensive, I thought it was like graphite shaft expensive, turns out more like twice the price of a steel shaft.
Now it would be interesting to compare this on a long/utility iron to a graphite UT/HB shaft such as Ventus HB, Tour AD 95 etc. Because compared to them this looks like a bargain.
How is the Axiom compared to Accra TZ iron shafts?
I love the top gear style opening! Not sure if it is intentional?
My favourite show 👍
Don't see many review the UST DART V iron shaft, which in the 120 x-flex should be a competitior to the axiom, actually fitting better into your development towards lighter iron shafts. The axiom is actually 130g uncut, the DART V progresses from just under 120 in the longest irons to just over 120 in the short irons. Does UST have less connections with fitters like you than fujikura maybe?
have had a bunch of people ask about that one, will try to get in contact with UST
So if you got money to burn go for it? I wonder if it’s close to steelfiber.
was the puring technology done with your clubs.? i was fit and purchased p790 with 105x axiom shafts. i feel a negative difference on 3/4 shots and when playing outside in cooler temperatures i believe these shafts play stiffer. only other negative was the “puring” technology affected installation where all the labels face a different direction on every club. club champion
no puring, i don't personally see the value in it - just my opinion
How much would slower swingers benefit more from Axiom (I think they have lighter shafts than the ones you were trying) than a faster swinger like you? Given the price-- not sure it's worth the cash expense for you. (Currently playing Elevate 95)
The big question now is why is there a ~$200+ variance between the iron and driver shaft? same material right...?!?!? Certainly not double the mass... If only the Ventus Velocore driver shafts were similar in cost 😁
I suspect it’s what the market will bear. You only need one driver shaft, versus 7-10 iron shafts. Virtually no one would pay $350 per shaft for a full set of irons.
So 3-4-5-6 105x and 7-P 125x ?
Matt i am wanting graphite but dont have availability locally. I have 87 mph ss on 7 iron. I play kbs ctaper light stiff now and typically have 120 mph ball speed and 170 carry. Any suggestions on a graphite product to buy and install in a head to try ? Accra , axiom, aerotech ?
those would be 3 good ones to try
Matt, can I asked what software you are using? Is that Foresights FSX Pro? Thanks
Yup 👍
Are they worth the extra money?
Great review. Have you ever noticed graphite shafts break down after a certain amount of use? I wonder if you played a season and retested them if they would perform and feels the same?
Not something I've noticed no, no reason they wouldn't last as long as steel as far as I know
I put the axiom 125x in my set of t100s and will never go back to steel .
What launch monitor?
GC Quad
If I could afford it and it had the weight I like
If I could afford to buy $720 worth of shafts and then pay to have them put in and new grips, I would. But I can’t so I’m stuck lol