I don't think many people would be interested in seeing motherboards with 3 memory slots though. People were already not that fond of the 6 slots on LGA1366 full size motherboards or the 12 slots on LGA2033 ones.
Pretty interesting how they can sell a Cooler, 6 core CPU, RAM, Motherboard and even a SATA cable for such a tiny amount. Makes me think when in the future I will see a i9 14900K or 7800X3D bundle for less than a Benjamin.
@@RandomGaminginHD I think it will be closer to 10 years. I feel that in the future there will be a bigger push for software that scales with multicore peformance so current gen will become outdated a lot quicker than previous gen
You must remember this was made in the "4 cores forever" era.We won't see such longevity from our current star CPUs,especially not the 13x00k/14x00k due to silicon degradation.
@@MoistSharko always the thing lost, especially when people are all into building retro machines suddenly and want them looking complete and pristine. They are more than just a piece of metal, they are hell demon plates sent to give us the metal version of paper cuts. Which is why we always binned them.
@@fuzzylumpkins6034 You can buy 3D printed ones tho. xD Have to make some cut outs but it looks pretty fine if you do a good enough job with it. Or you can probably buy ones that are for your board specifically.
@@gaming4K I am with you on this butt my 3d printer is nearly 8 years old, takes ages and cost a fortune to load. Several retro "collectors" pay a ton for the old i/o plates. I personally buy steel and measure my own off and cut them. I make 15 quid per retro repro i/o plates. I will never understand why but I suppose it is aesthetics for the buyers. I am guilty of binning every I/O plate up until current gen when all of my 670 boards have fancy built in pre made plates
I once received a video card from eBay that had clearly been splashed with orange juice. After much cleaning, I got most of it off, but the thing still gives off an orangey smell when it gets toasty.
It's so cheap to build a PC these days... The market and advancements have moved much faster than most people realize, you can get $1,000+ machines from less than 10 years ago for 10% of what they used to cost and can still be very usable today. It's a fun time to be a hardware enthusiast.
premium alienware and asus laptops that used to cost thousands are all under it or approaching, this is also a beautiful time for people to buy up old flagships
4:07 - You said i9-990x, its actually i7-990x. The reason I say this is, My main PC is using i7-990x. I have had it for 12 years now. I will finally retire it when the new Ryzen 9000 CPUs come out !!!
32nm Gulftown was originally leaked to be named Core i9 but for some reason Intel wanted to make the names complicated and named them as i7-9** just like the previous gen 45nm Bloomfield i7-9**
I was running a Plex server on an similar generation Xeon up until quite recently, then it was used as a Windows 10 desktop for testing various things for my old job. Now it's sitting waiting for its next assignment. The PC I'm commenting on right now is a 3rd generation Intel i7 paired with a Quadro P620 that serves as my living room PC, and it occasionally gets pressed into service for things like Roblox when my younger relatives visit. A bunch of cheap eBay components cobbled together into a working system! Older hardware still has its uses, and it's surprising how much power they still have, just don't expect to play AAA titles on it.
@@rexcatston8412maybe idk, I mean I am broke so I just browse internet to find something lucky. One time I found this prebuilt at an incredibly low price but I couldn't do anything. Also you can find many treasure on the internet like a candy you liked as a kid selling on somewhere haha
@rexcatston8412 ah yes, millennials invented capitalism and idleness. You've never aimlessly changed TV channels, radio stations, scrolled through social media, Netflix, your CD and DVD collection... Ok buddy sure
It does not scream, this processor was never a screamer. More like slow agricultural tractor that goes 10 mph max, no matter how much you press the pedal 😁
Why do you want a 9900x specifically? The 9000x series are just a rebrand (and new thermal interface) of the 7000x series. The 10000x series is also essentially the same, just overclocking a little bit better since theyre later production. If you want a socket 2066 cpu, I'd recommend getting an i9 7900x or i7 7820x since they are the cheapest, and perform the exact same as any other 2066 cpu in games.
@@RandomGaminginHD The 990X was still an i7. Intel didn't introduce i9 branding until the 7000 series HEDT chips followed by the 9th gen 9900 SKUs for consumer desktops.
@@jtenorj In 2009 leaks the 6c/12t Gulftown was branded as i9. Though in the end Intel made the naming complicated by naming them as i7-9** just like the previous gen Bloomfield. Also of course the leaks were for the 2010 i7-980X, not the 2011 i7-990X
the Xeon X5650 overclocked can still preform pretty well! I got one of these up to a stable 4.2GHz all core on an air cooler with good temps and pretty much any game that doesn't need AVX instructions is playable
Only 2 RAM slots on an X58 board, there goes the whole point of getting X58 (or X79/X99/X299) in the first place! X58 boards could have 6 RAMs totaling 48GB. There's also a distinct lack of SATA ports too - only 4, which is again inadequate when some X58s had up to 10.
@@samwalker7567 DDR3 capped out at 8GB sticks, and 6 of these is 48GB (at least for X58). I think X299 (the last of the crazy boards) support 32GB DDR4 modules.
@@TheSpotify95 DDR3 did not cap out at 8GB sticks, but 16GB sticks. DDR4 goes up to at least 64GB/DIMM. RAM limitation is more about what the motherboard will support than anything else. Some DDR3 motherboards cap out at 8GB DIMM support but others do not. I have an X58 board with 6x16 for 96GB of RAM, however the older version of the same board is capped to 48, and this one accepting 16GB DIMMs and going to 96 max is officially an undocumented feature.
Note difference between regular unbuffered RAM modules and registered (buffered) ECC modules ("server memory"). I have a board that can take both kinds, but you can only go up to 48 GB using unbuffered memory and need registered modules to get up to 96 GB, the motherboard max.
@@samwalker7567 16GB DDR3 sticks were a thing for laptops but required Intel 5th gen CPU. There was also DDR3 16GB and 32GB ECC Registered for workstations and servers but those don't work on X58 (except dual socket LGA1366 workstations and servers)
It's pretty nice to see you testing a setup like this because I recently got a HP Z400 motherboard and a X5680 cpu with 12gb of ecc ram and a rx470 4g and i'm really loving the 6c 12t all day long 😁
Can you make a video on the Razer Edge Pro? It was the first *gaming* windows handheld. Not to be confused by the android one they had. It had a "GeForce GT 640M LE"
Great video, love these ultra budget content. I'm currently running a socket AM3 system with a Phenom II 720 triple core (yes 3 cores), and 4GB ram and integrated on board graphics. Somehow it runs PS1 emulators at full speed , plus SNES and Mame. Can still run PC version of Outrun 2006 at 60fps at 720p. I would like something newer to run newer emulators and later Mame titles and have a budget of £100 for a CPU, Ram and board, any suggestions?
That's actually a four core cpu as amd had cpu's with one faulty core and so sold them as three cores , it's possible to unlock the extra core and sometimes you get lucky and it actually works . There are you tube videos showing you how to do this .
If you're looking into emulating things such as PS3 it's likely you'll need to spend a bit more, but for anything older than that an i7-2600 with 16GB of DDR3 is very capable at emulation. My brother ran one for years and we emulated absolutely everything before the seventh generation of consoles.
I can't recall what kind of Xeon it was but I remember there being a Xeon that everyone flocked to,back in the day. Had the same core and thread count of an i7, back when Intel was stuck in its quad core abyss but was cheaper than an i7 of I think 4770K range of generation. It just couldn't OC since it was a XEON but most ppl reported it did not matter since it clocked pretty high in general.
You can FSB OC any CPU pretty much as long as your MB supports it. Even a Pentium 4 or a Ryzen on an A520 MB. You can mod a Xeon X3220 (Q6600) to run like a Q9650 with a piece of tape, as long as your MB can handle 1333mHz FSB. I did this on an old Optiplex for a Windows 7 build. It actually works with any Core 2 CPU that is rated for a FSB speed lower than 1333mHz because the mod just causes BIOS to run at max FSB. You're blocking the signal that tells it to run at a lower FSB speed and it is far less sophisticated than a modern BIOS so it just defaults to the max. E5- 1620 V3, 1630V3 are the closest thing to a Haswell i7 but even then, that's not actually what they are. A Haswell i7 only has 8MB L3 cache, whereas the quad core Xeons have 10MB. This suggests they are actually made from higher core count Xeons with defects, effectively not even from the same wafer as an i7. You'd have to go back to the Core 2 era to find Xeons that used the same silicon as a consumer CPU, just higher binned.
@@Lurch-Bot this is true but it also OCs literally everything connected to your board,even your GPU and sound chips. It can get the job done but also hurt things you dont want to mess with.
New to this channel, with a question: What search terms does one use to find these sort of items & bundles? I’ve only used Amazon for new items. Thanks!
they both seem off. Because -6C is not 42F. And unless his room is a refrigerator, I don't believe the Fahrenheit reading either. Weirdness like this seems "par for the course" with these cheap Chinese boards. They don't seem to take any pride in, or accountability for, their products. I would say it's shameful but they obviously have none.
The W3690 and i7-990X have unlocked multiplier so they probably could be overclocked even on that china board with Intel XTU or ThrottleStop. But of course on a proper board even the X5650 can be OCd to 4.0GHz or above. For OC capable boards the X5675 is usually the best choice since they are usually good bins
They're both about equally rare, just the W3690 tends to be more reasonably priced. I ran a W3690 for years and I think functionally it's about the same as the 990X. On these repurposed server motherboards from China either one would be a noticeable improvement over the X5650-X5670.
990x is just 70$ on Aliexpress, I got 1 on Asus rampage 3 extreme, tested it a few months ago and it's just too slow to use even in a second PC so moved to 4790k and that's very usable especially in a second PC used for sailing the high seas.
Amazing to see this aging tech still cling on today! I still recommend the 2011 and the V2 xeons for dirt-cheap "new" combos though; ~~80-100 for all but those 22nm xeons are way more modern..and u get pcie 3.
Actually my original 2013 build sporting an X79 motherboard is still going strong, albeit with an upgrade from 3930K to e2667v2 I did 5 years ago. The beauty of this system is that it there are drivers from XP to Windows 10 lol.
since he hasn't answered and it's been nearly two weeks, I will. Go for it. It's probably the best $300 GPU on the market right now. 12GB of VRAM and capable of running AAA titles at 1440p. Also, that's a good CPU pairing for it. Maybe a little too slow, but still okay (that's what overclocking is for). You won't be GPU-limited; you'll be able to crank up the settings.
That, and the anemic single thread score which could be matched by a tape modded Xeon X3220. An RX 580 would have been a more appropriate GPU choice. The CPU utilization is quite high in Cyberpunk, given the low single thread score and the fact Cyberpunk can run fine on a Haswell i7, the CPU must be doing frequent emulation of missing instruction sets.
@@Lurch-Bot The single thread performance wouldn't be that big of a problem on a proper OC capable board. Though if you are building a gaming PC in 2024 you shouldn't really be looking at anything older than Haswell i7 due to the lack of AVX2 on older CPUs. My X5670 @ 4.4GHz on an Asus P6X58D-E did pretty well with a GTX 1080. I now have the 1080 in a newer PC but whenever I upgrade to a faster GPU I'll put the 1080 back into the X58 system.
Old Xeon makes the best budget gaming rig. My first was from Aliexpress. Second was from Taobao. However, you need luck with the quality of the motherboards (X58/X79).
I'm STILL using a Xeon X5670 in an ASUS P6T Deluxe v2 motherboard with a GTX 780 ti and it runs games pretty well for its "ancient design!" Definitely built like a tank, so to say! 👍👍
if after a xeon 5650, get a HP Z600, they are really reliable...and cheap or go for the next one up, HP Z620...solid performer, usually with huge overspec'd dual redundant PSU, and dual CPU in some of them, taking memory upto 96GB
@RamdomGaminginHD Mate, you bought the wrong, Xeon. You should have gone for the X5675 or X5680. Ideally you could have gone for W3680 and done some software OCing with ThrottleStop. That X5650 really is to slow for what you're asking of it.
Definitely given this one the old hug of death, it's now 74 quid on Amazon UK which is a much less tasty deal - you can buy an X99 bundle with a v4 Xeon and 32GB of RAM for that price.
I have a little backup system with the x5690, ASUS Sabertooth x58 MB,24 gb ram and GTX1660 that is a little beast for the cost. Running the x5690 @ 4.4ghz.
Nice video. Not bad for a cheap setup. I personally would not go below X99 (being that haswell/broadwell are still universally supported by games and have decent enough IPC just about for modern titles.
The actual practical use for something like this would be to run a dedicated server on it. The ram is old and limiting, but 12 server cores could probably do a lot for most dedicated gaming servers. You could spin up your own private-hosted CS server or minecraft or whatever. Learn a little networking and home-labbing in the process, and only spend 25 doing it.
Time to look for more 2nd gens. I think a nice 2600k would shock you once paired with a good GPU. Plus they overclock beautifully. I can't let mine go it's paired with with an RTX 2070, a minor bottle neck
don't catch buyer's remorse over a 14 year old server CPU on a crappy Chinese motherboard. You'll be OK. But yeah, you should always watch tech 'tuber content to do some research before building. BTW what'd you get?
@@SeeJayPlayGames 32 gb crucial Ram, ryzen 7 5800x, b550f mobo, zotac rtx 3060 white edition, water cooler for cpu and a fancy dancy case that my wife insisted on! think thats everything. My friend put them all into my amazon basket because I wasn't sure what I was looking at!
@@RandomGaminginHD 13xx socket mobo and cpu shouldnt sell for that much to begin with. I mean, 2011 mobo, cpu and RAM bundle can be had for at least same or less.
@@RandomGaminginHD Because you bought it so they got the impression there was actually a market for hardware this old. To be fair, it would work fine as a basic PC but would be woefully inefficient which is probably an issue for someone who lives in the UK or Europe. And definitely not at all worth much more than you paid for it. I recently got a Haswell i7 and Z87MB for around $50 and that is much better for gaming than this old Xeon due to having roughly double the single thread performance. You can run Cyberpunk just fine on 8 threads which means the rest of the CPU is busy emulating the missing AVX instruction set and not always managing to keep up. Low single thread score can cause stuttering and frame drops too. I got the impression it would be unplayable for me and I first played Doom at around 18fps on a 386. There is a world of difference between low framerate and a stuttering mess. Usually these days, the low framerate will come with stutters which makes it unplayable, not the low framerate per se. This is why the kids wonder how we managed to play games back in ancient times, the answer being that, while the framerates were low, the frame pacing was usually smooth.
Are you sure the CPU temperatures are proper with this kind of cooler ? have you tested in long-term usage ? this cooler reminds me a Xigmatek cooler i had bought in the past for an Athlon64 FX60(socket 939). It was very easy in installation and i thought : ""well surely it must be better than a stock-cooler"" so i bought it and .... that was horrible experience which gave me many overheating issues(until decided to replace it) whenever i see such cooler-design i'm getting suspicious due to my own (bad) experience ,really ... this one is almost identical ...
my nephew running a x5670 thats had the balls overclocked off it with 12gb ram and a 1080ti, its a little beast for the age of it but i think im gonna swap it out with a 12400f and b660 mobo soon
I just moved to the 2011-3 socket after using 1366 since 2009 with the Sun Ultra 27 workstation. Better late than never I suppose :P back then the sun system was state of the art.
@@DanielCardei I thought i replied to this one. guess not. I use an E5-2680 v4 on the 2011 socket. It's pretty good even for its age. Some light/moderate gaming is possible too.
Only decent way to game on x58 is triple channel with i7's. Yeah they'll run xeons, but does better with i7's. Not saying they'll game the latest title games, depends on the video card but it still does pretty well. Only issue with x58 with i7's is heat, they really need good cooling. Those 1st gen i7's sure are power hungry, especially when overclocked and to properly overclock those i7's you really need the right x58 board.
For the age this CPU is amazing. I had my X5650 overclocked to 4.3 GHz with 2000mhz triple channels ram and it was great. Then I upgraded to a Ryzen 5600x and realised how slow it really was in comparison.
Less than a third of the multithreaded performance and little more than a third of the single thread score. Also, the X5650 lacks support for AVX, which is why you have surprisingly high usage on the CPU but the GPU is still bottlenecked by 25% and this is because the CPU is using considerable resources to emulate the missing AVX instructions. In fact, at this point, nobody should be building a budget gaming PC in 2024 without AVX2 support, let alone one without AVX.
For real you can get a 12core 24thread xeon from 2016 with mainboard and 16gb ram for under 70$ on aliexpress choice. Kinda insane tbh Would love to see a review of a bundle from ya combined with a budget gpu.
It seems like dull blade on your um...knife?! But i really like that lime cooler 😂really refreshing at these hot days about ram...i have 32gb 2133MT/S DDR4 ecc but it's cl 9! Really fast but it's only 4/8 xeon 3.5 GHz so...nothing i can live with so yea...but as a transcoding machine works well
Money talks. And that price is very attractive. Do I really need a Ryzen 9000 or should I try and get a stop-gap that's well within budget? Thinking...
I run 2 systems with 1650v2 and chinese x79 motherboards. Paired with RX570's they are cheap performers on fortnite and such. Even later games at lower settings are fine.
I bought Old server chasis and gamed on it for a while, it had 2 sockets and 9 ram slots, i ran it with Rx 570 and 2 X5677 plus 36gb of ram, it was allready lacking in 2018 i would say, could barely hit 100fps in csgo, with no Oc those chips are ass these days, still have the system just dont see the point of even turning it on as it is just waste of electricity. :)
The biggest problem is the running costs. European electricity is not cheap. You won't be saving money over 2nd hand AM4 or Intel post Skylake 65W parts in the long run. I guess you could run these chips at their stock 95W?? tdps but I don't think most people buying them intend to run stock.
No triple channel in x58 is a crime :(
Yeah for sure :(
Those CPUs are so slow that they barely benefit from triple channel, so dual channel X58 isn't the end of the world
@@kingeling
But,'em Chinesium boards aren't overclocable!!!
That's just a crime!!!
@@kingeling LOL say that to my 8 mhz 286 CPU. 🤣🤣"So slow" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't think many people would be interested in seeing motherboards with 3 memory slots though. People were already not that fond of the 6 slots on LGA1366 full size motherboards or the 12 slots on LGA2033 ones.
Pretty interesting how they can sell a Cooler, 6 core CPU, RAM, Motherboard and even a SATA cable for such a tiny amount.
Makes me think when in the future I will see a i9 14900K or 7800X3D bundle for less than a Benjamin.
That would be amazing. Maybe in 20 years time 😁
@@RandomGaminginHD I think it will be closer to 10 years. I feel that in the future there will be a bigger push for software that scales with multicore peformance so current gen will become outdated a lot quicker than previous gen
You must remember this was made in the "4 cores forever" era.We won't see such longevity from our current star CPUs,especially not the 13x00k/14x00k due to silicon degradation.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 Yeah silicon degradation and instability is really bad.
How much is in a Benjamin? 😂
Watching Xeon content is always delightful. The ASMR clip at the end was a fine touch.
The I/O plate alone is worth the £24
Why are I/O shields so expensive. It just seems like a piece carved metal no?
@@MoistSharko always the thing lost, especially when people are all into building retro machines suddenly and want them looking complete and pristine.
They are more than just a piece of metal, they are hell demon plates sent to give us the metal version of paper cuts. Which is why we always binned them.
@@fuzzylumpkins6034 You can buy 3D printed ones tho. xD Have to make some cut outs but it looks pretty fine if you do a good enough job with it. Or you can probably buy ones that are for your board specifically.
@@gaming4K I am with you on this butt my 3d printer is nearly 8 years old, takes ages and cost a fortune to load. Several retro "collectors" pay a ton for the old i/o plates. I personally buy steel and measure my own off and cut them. I make 15 quid per retro repro i/o plates. I will never understand why but I suppose it is aesthetics for the buyers.
I am guilty of binning every I/O plate up until current gen when all of my 670 boards have fancy built in pre made plates
1:45
RGHD : "What is that all over you, RAM? Syrup?"
RAM : "Uhh, yeah Syrup!".
RGDH : "It doesn't taste like Syrup."
RAM :"Don't taste me!"
trevor
Syrup accident. We've all been there
I once received a video card from eBay that had clearly been splashed with orange juice. After much cleaning, I got most of it off, but the thing still gives off an orangey smell when it gets toasty.
@@moardargons8160 honestly that’s cool
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It's so cheap to build a PC these days... The market and advancements have moved much faster than most people realize, you can get $1,000+ machines from less than 10 years ago for 10% of what they used to cost and can still be very usable today. It's a fun time to be a hardware enthusiast.
premium alienware and asus laptops that used to cost thousands are all under it or approaching, this is also a beautiful time for people to buy up old flagships
@@Micecheese my 2011 alienware laptop is still running great
CHEAP RTX 4090? 🤦
I can finally afford my core 2 quad 9550.
Damn waste of electricity @@vennin7781
Really liked the outro on this one. That fan noise just hits a different level of calmness to me.
A return to 2019. Good to see you're still at it
4:07 - You said i9-990x, its actually i7-990x. The reason I say this is, My main PC is using i7-990x. I have had it for 12 years now. I will finally retire it when the new Ryzen 9000 CPUs come out !!!
32nm Gulftown was originally leaked to be named Core i9 but for some reason Intel wanted to make the names complicated and named them as i7-9** just like the previous gen 45nm Bloomfield i7-9**
I remember the days with my overclocked x5680 4.1 GHZ and 24GB of triple channel ram. It would probably still be fine even today
@@johncheetham4607 Thats older than me haha
Would you please do a reading of "A clockwork Orange" ?
I was running a Plex server on an similar generation Xeon up until quite recently, then it was used as a Windows 10 desktop for testing various things for my old job. Now it's sitting waiting for its next assignment. The PC I'm commenting on right now is a 3rd generation Intel i7 paired with a Quadro P620 that serves as my living room PC, and it occasionally gets pressed into service for things like Roblox when my younger relatives visit. A bunch of cheap eBay components cobbled together into a working system! Older hardware still has its uses, and it's surprising how much power they still have, just don't expect to play AAA titles on it.
For a PC that originally cost over £1K, that's not bad.
the processor alone was $999 on release day. That was Q1 of 2010.
ahh yes my favourite timepass,"aimlessly browsing through amazon listings".
@@rexcatston8412maybe idk, I mean I am broke so I just browse internet to find something lucky. One time I found this prebuilt at an incredibly low price but I couldn't do anything. Also you can find many treasure on the internet like a candy you liked as a kid selling on somewhere haha
@rexcatston8412 ah yes, millennials invented capitalism and idleness. You've never aimlessly changed TV channels, radio stations, scrolled through social media, Netflix, your CD and DVD collection...
Ok buddy sure
Dude your backyard is dope
I thought it said you have dope in your backyard. 😂
@@BREEZYM6015It does! They mean there's so much dope in the backyard that it just IS dope.
The fact that this combo works and not a scam is a good sign
I can hear that cpu scream when playing games...
😂
It does not scream, this processor was never a screamer. More like slow agricultural tractor that goes 10 mph max, no matter how much you press the pedal 😁
@@aleksazunjic9672The CPU was screaming in pain. 😂
@@BREEZYM6015 No, it simply did not care 😁
Really liking that CPU cooler. Slick looking. And doesn't need RGB to do so.
Instructions unclear, Tongue stuck in 6900XT fan
I bought a few of these last week when I saw the deal. All working perfectly. Paired with a RX 560 or 1050 it makes a decent budget computer
Why do you want a 9900x specifically? The 9000x series are just a rebrand (and new thermal interface) of the 7000x series. The 10000x series is also essentially the same, just overclocking a little bit better since theyre later production. If you want a socket 2066 cpu, I'd recommend getting an i9 7900x or i7 7820x since they are the cheapest, and perform the exact same as any other 2066 cpu in games.
Nah the 990x. The 1366 extreme edition. They are really hard to find these days
@@RandomGaminginHD The 990X was still an i7. Intel didn't introduce i9 branding until the 7000 series HEDT chips followed by the 9th gen 9900 SKUs for consumer desktops.
@@jtenorj In 2009 leaks the 6c/12t Gulftown was branded as i9. Though in the end Intel made the naming complicated by naming them as i7-9** just like the previous gen Bloomfield. Also of course the leaks were for the 2010 i7-980X, not the 2011 i7-990X
the Xeon X5650 overclocked can still preform pretty well! I got one of these up to a stable 4.2GHz all core on an air cooler with good temps and pretty much any game that doesn't need AVX instructions is playable
Only 2 RAM slots on an X58 board, there goes the whole point of getting X58 (or X79/X99/X299) in the first place! X58 boards could have 6 RAMs totaling 48GB.
There's also a distinct lack of SATA ports too - only 4, which is again inadequate when some X58s had up to 10.
96GB no?
@@samwalker7567 DDR3 capped out at 8GB sticks, and 6 of these is 48GB (at least for X58). I think X299 (the last of the crazy boards) support 32GB DDR4 modules.
@@TheSpotify95 DDR3 did not cap out at 8GB sticks, but 16GB sticks. DDR4 goes up to at least 64GB/DIMM.
RAM limitation is more about what the motherboard will support than anything else. Some DDR3 motherboards cap out at 8GB DIMM support but others do not. I have an X58 board with 6x16 for 96GB of RAM, however the older version of the same board is capped to 48, and this one accepting 16GB DIMMs and going to 96 max is officially an undocumented feature.
Note difference between regular unbuffered RAM modules and registered (buffered) ECC modules ("server memory"). I have a board that can take both kinds, but you can only go up to 48 GB using unbuffered memory and need registered modules to get up to 96 GB, the motherboard max.
@@samwalker7567 16GB DDR3 sticks were a thing for laptops but required Intel 5th gen CPU. There was also DDR3 16GB and 32GB ECC Registered for workstations and servers but those don't work on X58 (except dual socket LGA1366 workstations and servers)
It's pretty nice to see you testing a setup like this because I recently got a HP Z400 motherboard and a X5680 cpu with 12gb of ecc ram and a rx470 4g and i'm really loving the 6c 12t all day long 😁
As a measure of comparison, a 3.2 GHz Ivy Bridge will run CS2 at 120+ fps. I reckon a combo with those should cost the same or little more.
"Do not randomly lick computer components."
Well, that's me told.
You should get an 800 series AM3 motherboard and a Thuban 6 core Phenom. On paper comparable to a new Ryzen 5
I always like your video before watching. It’s always amusing videos.
Funny how you should mention licking computer parts. Lmao! I have a screenshot of Greg Salazar from science studio licking the IHS from an Intel CPU.😂
The fact that a 14-year-old cpu is usable at all is pretty wild to me. When I was a kid the idea would have been laughable.
When I was a kid, there was no such thing as a '14 year old CPU', lol.
@@Lurch-BotPitty cause you missed the golden years of cpu advancements
this is why windows pushing to end support for windows 10 next year. So many old computers "from oem's to custom builds" can run windows 10 just fine.
@@CecilTheDarkKnight234 Yes, the move to Windows 11 is what is finally going to kill off 1366. The end of an era.
@@moardargons8160 Yeah it is end of an era.. that's for sure
Can you make a video on the Razer Edge Pro? It was the first *gaming* windows handheld. Not to be confused by the android one they had. It had a "GeForce GT 640M LE"
Great video, love these ultra budget content. I'm currently running a socket AM3 system with a Phenom II 720 triple core (yes 3 cores), and 4GB ram and integrated on board graphics. Somehow it runs PS1 emulators at full speed , plus SNES and Mame. Can still run PC version of Outrun 2006 at 60fps at 720p. I would like something newer to run newer emulators and later Mame titles and have a budget of £100 for a CPU, Ram and board, any suggestions?
That's actually a four core cpu as amd had cpu's with one faulty core and so sold them as three cores , it's possible to unlock the extra core and sometimes you get lucky and it actually works . There are you tube videos showing you how to do this .
@@PhilipKerry I tried to unlock the hidden 4th core but never had any luck, so content with the black edition 3 cores.
If you're looking into emulating things such as PS3 it's likely you'll need to spend a bit more, but for anything older than that an i7-2600 with 16GB of DDR3 is very capable at emulation. My brother ran one for years and we emulated absolutely everything before the seventh generation of consoles.
1:58 is this one of them lick quid cooling systems?
thx the youtube algorithm for showing me your channel again after few months ,this time i subscribe , cheers from france bro
I can't recall what kind of Xeon it was but I remember there being a Xeon that everyone flocked to,back in the day. Had the same core and thread count of an i7, back when Intel was stuck in its quad core abyss but was cheaper than an i7 of I think 4770K range of generation. It just couldn't OC since it was a XEON but most ppl reported it did not matter since it clocked pretty high in general.
You can FSB OC any CPU pretty much as long as your MB supports it. Even a Pentium 4 or a Ryzen on an A520 MB. You can mod a Xeon X3220 (Q6600) to run like a Q9650 with a piece of tape, as long as your MB can handle 1333mHz FSB. I did this on an old Optiplex for a Windows 7 build. It actually works with any Core 2 CPU that is rated for a FSB speed lower than 1333mHz because the mod just causes BIOS to run at max FSB. You're blocking the signal that tells it to run at a lower FSB speed and it is far less sophisticated than a modern BIOS so it just defaults to the max. E5- 1620 V3, 1630V3 are the closest thing to a Haswell i7 but even then, that's not actually what they are. A Haswell i7 only has 8MB L3 cache, whereas the quad core Xeons have 10MB. This suggests they are actually made from higher core count Xeons with defects, effectively not even from the same wafer as an i7. You'd have to go back to the Core 2 era to find Xeons that used the same silicon as a consumer CPU, just higher binned.
@@Lurch-Bot this is true but it also OCs literally everything connected to your board,even your GPU and sound chips. It can get the job done but also hurt things you dont want to mess with.
Bios modding to get all core perpetual turbo boost is a huge improvement for these
New to this channel, with a question:
What search terms does one use to find these sort of items & bundles?
I’ve only used Amazon for new items.
Thanks!
2:08 The celsius readout is waay off. Fahrenheit might be ok.
they both seem off. Because -6C is not 42F. And unless his room is a refrigerator, I don't believe the Fahrenheit reading either.
Weirdness like this seems "par for the course" with these cheap Chinese boards. They don't seem to take any pride in, or accountability for, their products. I would say it's shameful but they obviously have none.
I'm a bit rusty on 1366, but would a W3690 be any easier to find vs. the 990X? Not that I image it would be too much faster than that X5660.
The W3690 and i7-990X have unlocked multiplier so they probably could be overclocked even on that china board with Intel XTU or ThrottleStop. But of course on a proper board even the X5650 can be OCd to 4.0GHz or above. For OC capable boards the X5675 is usually the best choice since they are usually good bins
They're both about equally rare, just the W3690 tends to be more reasonably priced. I ran a W3690 for years and I think functionally it's about the same as the 990X. On these repurposed server motherboards from China either one would be a noticeable improvement over the X5650-X5670.
990x is just 70$ on Aliexpress, I got 1 on Asus rampage 3 extreme, tested it a few months ago and it's just too slow to use even in a second PC so moved to 4790k and that's very usable especially in a second PC used for sailing the high seas.
Xeons are the best CPUs to play PC games in a really tight budget hands down.
Amazing to see this aging tech still cling on today! I still recommend the 2011 and the V2 xeons for dirt-cheap "new" combos though; ~~80-100 for all but those 22nm xeons are way more modern..and u get pcie 3.
Actually my original 2013 build sporting an X79 motherboard is still going strong, albeit with an upgrade from 3930K to e2667v2 I did 5 years ago. The beauty of this system is that it there are drivers from XP to Windows 10 lol.
Man for older games this combo is a beast
very nice deal, my father still uses 775 Q6600 for daily tasks, so something like this would be huge upgrade for him.
With the included ECC RAM that would make a great little NAS build. :)
I know this is off topic but i was wondering what is your opinion on RX 6750 xt? I'm fixing to buy one and pair it with Ryzen 5 5600.
since he hasn't answered and it's been nearly two weeks, I will.
Go for it. It's probably the best $300 GPU on the market right now. 12GB of VRAM and capable of running AAA titles at 1440p. Also, that's a good CPU pairing for it. Maybe a little too slow, but still okay (that's what overclocking is for). You won't be GPU-limited; you'll be able to crank up the settings.
@@SeeJayPlayGames Thanks for your help man, will go for it!
the black ring lets you use amd stock coolers on intel boards. oc vid soon?
Really liked the outro, you should do it more
I think lack of AVX is the biggest issue with these.
Yep :(
That, and the anemic single thread score which could be matched by a tape modded Xeon X3220. An RX 580 would have been a more appropriate GPU choice. The CPU utilization is quite high in Cyberpunk, given the low single thread score and the fact Cyberpunk can run fine on a Haswell i7, the CPU must be doing frequent emulation of missing instruction sets.
@@Lurch-Bot The single thread performance wouldn't be that big of a problem on a proper OC capable board. Though if you are building a gaming PC in 2024 you shouldn't really be looking at anything older than Haswell i7 due to the lack of AVX2 on older CPUs.
My X5670 @ 4.4GHz on an Asus P6X58D-E did pretty well with a GTX 1080. I now have the 1080 in a newer PC but whenever I upgrade to a faster GPU I'll put the 1080 back into the X58 system.
Old Xeon makes the best budget gaming rig. My first was from Aliexpress. Second was from Taobao. However, you need luck with the quality of the motherboards (X58/X79).
Nice little setup. Well done. Nice budget setup for older games and a few newer titles. Take care all. Cheers from the States
I'm STILL using a Xeon X5670 in an ASUS P6T Deluxe v2 motherboard with a GTX 780 ti and it runs games pretty well for its "ancient design!" Definitely built like a tank, so to say! 👍👍
x58? Usually find x99 these days for these combos
if after a xeon 5650, get a HP Z600, they are really reliable...and cheap
or go for the next one up, HP Z620...solid performer, usually with huge overspec'd dual redundant PSU, and dual CPU in some of them, taking memory upto 96GB
@RamdomGaminginHD
Mate, you bought the wrong, Xeon. You should have gone for the X5675 or X5680. Ideally you could have gone for W3680 and done some software OCing with ThrottleStop. That X5650 really is to slow for what you're asking of it.
It's the CPU that came with the bundle he didn't get to choose
@@joedoyle1403
Context is important. What do you think you missed? Hmm?
@@joedoyle1403
How does that exclude the choice of a better CPU? You do know there are more choices, right?
Me:Randomly licking computer parts while disclaimer is announced..not to lick computer parts...great video as usual. Love your channel.
😁 thanks
Definitely given this one the old hug of death, it's now 74 quid on Amazon UK which is a much less tasty deal - you can buy an X99 bundle with a v4 Xeon and 32GB of RAM for that price.
I have a little backup system with the x5690, ASUS Sabertooth x58 MB,24 gb ram and GTX1660 that is a little beast for the cost. Running the x5690 @ 4.4ghz.
How much did it cost to build?
Would make an awesome media server, drop in a cheap p400 for a bit of transcoding and plex away!
Not sure why, but I found this video super relaxing. ❤
Getting something that is actually useful for that price, pretty solid deal I think.
x58 is done or at least its stumbling on its last legs. Why would you buy it, when you can get a an older AM4 board with a 4 core Ryzen around 40 USD?
Nice video. Not bad for a cheap setup. I personally would not go below X99 (being that haswell/broadwell are still universally supported by games and have decent enough IPC just about for modern titles.
The actual practical use for something like this would be to run a dedicated server on it. The ram is old and limiting, but 12 server cores could probably do a lot for most dedicated gaming servers. You could spin up your own private-hosted CS server or minecraft or whatever. Learn a little networking and home-labbing in the process, and only spend 25 doing it.
Time to look for more 2nd gens. I think a nice 2600k would shock you once paired with a good GPU. Plus they overclock beautifully. I can't let mine go it's paired with with an RTX 2070, a minor bottle neck
Dayum! How'd you find that! They're all around 60 quid!
Crikey, just spent a grand on my first pc, should have watched this first!
don't catch buyer's remorse over a 14 year old server CPU on a crappy Chinese motherboard. You'll be OK. But yeah, you should always watch tech 'tuber content to do some research before building.
BTW what'd you get?
@@SeeJayPlayGames 32 gb crucial Ram, ryzen 7 5800x, b550f mobo, zotac rtx 3060 white edition, water cooler for cpu and a fancy dancy case that my wife insisted on! think thats everything. My friend put them all into my amazon basket because I wasn't sure what I was looking at!
this bundle costs on german amazon 117€
Yeah gone up again not sure why this was so heavily discounted
@@RandomGaminginHD 13xx socket mobo and cpu shouldnt sell for that much to begin with. I mean, 2011 mobo, cpu and RAM bundle can be had for at least same or less.
@@RandomGaminginHD Because you bought it so they got the impression there was actually a market for hardware this old. To be fair, it would work fine as a basic PC but would be woefully inefficient which is probably an issue for someone who lives in the UK or Europe. And definitely not at all worth much more than you paid for it. I recently got a Haswell i7 and Z87MB for around $50 and that is much better for gaming than this old Xeon due to having roughly double the single thread performance. You can run Cyberpunk just fine on 8 threads which means the rest of the CPU is busy emulating the missing AVX instruction set and not always managing to keep up. Low single thread score can cause stuttering and frame drops too. I got the impression it would be unplayable for me and I first played Doom at around 18fps on a 386. There is a world of difference between low framerate and a stuttering mess. Usually these days, the low framerate will come with stutters which makes it unplayable, not the low framerate per se. This is why the kids wonder how we managed to play games back in ancient times, the answer being that, while the framerates were low, the frame pacing was usually smooth.
That CPU cooler looks like it should be on a Pentium 4, very retro, except for the green fan.
I'll have to look out for stuff like this. I'm building a Linux system, and this is way more than adequate.
Can anyone explain the difference between server ram.and desktop ram?
ECC memory.
Are you sure the CPU temperatures are proper with this kind of cooler ?
have you tested in long-term usage ?
this cooler reminds me a Xigmatek cooler i had bought in the past for an Athlon64 FX60(socket 939). It was very easy in installation and i thought : ""well surely it must be better than a stock-cooler"" so i bought it and .... that was horrible experience which gave me many overheating issues(until decided to replace it)
whenever i see such cooler-design i'm getting suspicious due to my own (bad) experience ,really ... this one is almost identical ...
These are the copycat Zalman Super Flower coolers, except they're smaller and are made of aluminum. The real deal is made of copper.
Have not seen a Cooler like that in a long long time.
my nephew running a x5670 thats had the balls overclocked off it with 12gb ram and a 1080ti, its a little beast for the age of it but i think im gonna swap it out with a 12400f and b660 mobo soon
I just moved to the 2011-3 socket after using 1366 since 2009 with the Sun Ultra 27 workstation. Better late than never I suppose :P back then the sun system was state of the art.
With what cpu?
@@DanielCardei xeon w3540, it was one of the best cpus out there back in 2008
@@PatrickJohnson-ih2ye cool and on 2011-3?
@@DanielCardei I thought i replied to this one. guess not. I use an E5-2680 v4 on the 2011 socket. It's pretty good even for its age. Some light/moderate gaming is possible too.
How does that XEON compare to the i7 8700k?
Only decent way to game on x58 is triple channel with i7's. Yeah they'll run xeons, but does better with i7's. Not saying they'll game the latest title games, depends on the video card but it still does pretty well. Only issue with x58 with i7's is heat, they really need good cooling. Those 1st gen i7's sure are power hungry, especially when overclocked and to properly overclock those i7's you really need the right x58 board.
Still more powerful than my old laptop. I can barely play GTA IV. Just 25 quid
Can you please do a video on the Titan Z?
For the age this CPU is amazing. I had my X5650 overclocked to 4.3 GHz with 2000mhz triple channels ram and it was great. Then I upgraded to a Ryzen 5600x and realised how slow it really was in comparison.
Less than a third of the multithreaded performance and little more than a third of the single thread score. Also, the X5650 lacks support for AVX, which is why you have surprisingly high usage on the CPU but the GPU is still bottlenecked by 25% and this is because the CPU is using considerable resources to emulate the missing AVX instructions. In fact, at this point, nobody should be building a budget gaming PC in 2024 without AVX2 support, let alone one without AVX.
For real you can get a 12core 24thread xeon from 2016 with mainboard and 16gb ram for under 70$ on aliexpress choice. Kinda insane tbh
Would love to see a review of a bundle from ya combined with a budget gpu.
4:07 i9? :)
Haha yep just realised
make review of LSFG
Lossless Scaling Frame Generation.
This fantastic tool can triple the FPS on such hardware
Would this good foe emulation and gpu would you put with it thanks tony
Interesting to see that Fortnite stutters as hard on that Xeon. I play on an E3-1270 from 2011 and it never stutters on medium
It seems like dull blade on your um...knife?! But i really like that lime cooler 😂really refreshing at these hot days about ram...i have 32gb 2133MT/S DDR4 ecc but it's cl 9! Really fast but it's only 4/8 xeon 3.5 GHz so...nothing i can live with so yea...but as a transcoding machine works well
i barely go to page 2 on any site xD
15 is just insane, i don't have that much patience
Money talks. And that price is very attractive. Do I really need a Ryzen 9000 or should I try and get a stop-gap that's well within budget? Thinking...
the E5 1650 v3 is always in my heart
I run 2 systems with 1650v2 and chinese x79 motherboards. Paired with RX570's they are cheap performers on fortnite and such. Even later games at lower settings are fine.
lol that cpu fan look like a old school beyblade
Mike from Mike's reviews unboxing and how-to licks his ram regularly, he has magical properties and can revive dead sticks.
A tech tuber not named Steve is suspect
What's the idle power draw like?
We need to see more budget laptops
Pigs can chase you in 2077 now?? No way! Nice.
I bought Old server chasis and gamed on it for a while, it had 2 sockets and 9 ram slots, i ran it with Rx 570 and 2 X5677 plus 36gb of ram, it was allready lacking in 2018 i would say, could barely hit 100fps in csgo, with no Oc those chips are ass these days, still have the system just dont see the point of even turning it on as it is just waste of electricity. :)
Good to know that I am not alone when I navigate to > page 10
1:45 STOPLICKINGTHEDAMNTHING!! 🤣
Scratch and sniff only!
The biggest problem is the running costs. European electricity is not cheap. You won't be saving money over 2nd hand AM4 or Intel post Skylake 65W parts in the long run. I guess you could run these chips at their stock 95W?? tdps but I don't think most people buying them intend to run stock.
Got a link for something similar?
In that states cheap amazon boards break because… the delivery driver sits on them.